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Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on July 27, 2002, 04:04:08 pm: This maybe a stupid request (actually not!) but we have some nations that hav been abandoned by their original owners. (Orphin-lands :p)

If some of you are interested in giving NW a try but don't want the hassle of setting up an entirely nation you could try your hand with these abandoned nations.
Their OOBs (statistics and info) have all been cleared and are completely okay (ready for play)

If you are interested in picking up one of these nations, drop by at the NW forum :)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Grey Wolf on July 27, 2002, 05:05:04 pm: As Ivan said, this'll make them much easeier to run.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: delta_7890 on July 27, 2002, 06:35:34 pm: *cowers in guilt and shame*
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 27, 2002, 06:46:06 pm: If people stop telling me I need to take a week to process every last one of my posts, I'll come back. How about that?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 27, 2002, 06:56:36 pm: Huh? A week to process every post?

Now I do remember you posting weird stuff about cybernetic limbs and such and the mods (including myself) had problems with that.

If you stuck to regular politics stuff and default techs, not trying to be different, I don't think the mods would have problems :)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 27, 2002, 07:00:04 pm: I'm talking about recently, when I started the Rasta colony and every post I made turned out to reuire approval from half a dozen authorities, a few day's processing, editing by some anonymous person, etc. Had nothing more dangerous than a big carrier and a souped-up megafreighter/ hydroponics farm, and I couldn't make a single post without filling out a TA-71B form in triplicate.:rolleyes:
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 27, 2002, 09:56:14 pm: Well if you take an orphan nation I don't think you'll face those problems ;)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 27, 2002, 10:09:44 pm: I think I currently AM an orphan nation...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 04:18:39 am: *has plans for the TR&R........firey, death-filled, carnage ridden, enslaving, looting, raping and pillaging plans*
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 28, 2002, 04:24:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
*has plans for the TR&R........firey, death-filled, carnage ridden, enslaving, looting, raping and pillaging plans*

By the time you get there all find will be trashed planets and corpses. :D
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 04:29:19 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

By the time you get there all find will be trashed planets and corpses. :D

No, that'll be when I'm finished with them.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: heretic on July 28, 2002, 08:16:46 am: I've been thinking about it, but you have your weapon/ship/battle rules kinda scattered about.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 28, 2002, 08:41:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by heretic
I've been thinking about it, but you have your weapon/ship/battle rules kinda scattered about.

If you make the rules too strict its no fun to play the game!
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 09:01:02 am: Quote
To quote Stryke:
I came in to play Nodewar, not Let's Be a Bureaucrat
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 28, 2002, 09:12:36 am: The irony : The nation (NPCm) is a bureaucratic nation. :D
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: heretic on July 28, 2002, 09:28:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara

If you make the rules too strict its no fun to play the game!

but they way they are now, nobody can understand them
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 28, 2002, 09:42:22 am: Quote
Originally posted by heretic

but they way they are now, nobody can understand them

I do : there is only one rule. Play it fair and don't do anything unrealistic.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: heretic on July 28, 2002, 10:00:14 am: I understand playing fair, but how do you know who hit what, and if it did anything?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Blue Lion on July 28, 2002, 10:00:44 am: heh, I tried, didn't like it. Found Librawars more exciting
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Zeronet on July 28, 2002, 10:29:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by heretic
I understand playing fair, but how do you know who hit what, and if it did anything?

You write in your story, ship fires beam at other ship, think of all possible factors(mainly weapon accuracy), if you decide the shot is good you write it hits shields. We decided how many L4(Green beam) weapon shots to puncture various types and armor.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Blue Lion on July 28, 2002, 10:31:40 am: And thats why I didnt like NW
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 10:38:08 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
You write in your story, ship fires beam at other ship, think of all possible factors(mainly weapon accuracy), if you decide the shot is good you write it hits shields. We decided how many L4(Green beam) weapon shots to puncture various types and armor.

You just get a vague idea of each fleet's power and massacre ships accordingly.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: CP5670 on July 28, 2002, 12:31:14 pm: How does this administrative stuff work? Is there a group of third-party people who do not participate in NW but decide on the legimitacy of new technologies and so on?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 28, 2002, 12:36:08 pm: No, you just make your OOB as you see fit (using an existing OOB as template is advisable) and post it in General discussion where it can be reviewed by all players. And after that if it is approved you can play.

There are certain rules wich must be followed. For example if you make a mining nation your military isn't all that big but trade is good and due to that your relations improve more easily.

Or you are an imperialistic society with a strong military but a weak economy.

(these are just examples.)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 01:21:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
How does this administrative stuff work? Is there a group of third-party people who do not participate in NW but decide on the legimitacy of new technologies and so on?

Not really. But mods (Ace, Zeronet, Kamikaze and Crazy_Ivan80) and Shrike make sure you're not all "SuperNova Cannon - Fires stars at people and them makes them explode".

You basically decide some vague stuff about your nation and develop things accordingly. Like Tiara said, if you've got a super-ultra military you balance it with something like lack of resources or inability to interact peacfully/productively with others. If you're a secretive, spying type nation then you'd probably focus on espionage and have stealthy but weak ships. Etc etc.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 28, 2002, 03:50:01 pm: It's vauger then Libra Wars because it's a STORY DEBATE which emphasis on STORY. Overall it should be more about character interactions then pure fleet standoffs. Also more on tactics since you can detail those very well.

For instance, the CWA relys on forward siege weapons for long range bombardment and then has short range defensive weapons. So in the stories fleets attack accordingly. (such as englobing CWA positions to attack multiple faces so not every ship is being hit by the full power of the front weapons, etc.)

Now when NW is finished with, I have some ideas for the NW prequel (well NodeWars 2 would be a prequel in the NW universe) which would be a more detailed in the rules Role Playing Strategy game during the Terran-Vasudan war.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Shrike on July 28, 2002, 09:22:10 pm: One orphan nation taken up! Only got, um, a few more. :D

Get 'em while they're hot!
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 09:43:12 pm: Which nation?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 28, 2002, 09:52:37 pm: ...but it's not that simple. I suppose everything goes smoothly if all you want is to have the template empire; maybe that's the problem, I've actually come up with my own ideas instead of copying and pasting the template. Other than that, I don't see why I should get crap for an armored freighter or mining drills welded to jato rockets.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: TheVirtu on July 28, 2002, 10:22:36 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Which nation?

Taken
The Orion Empire is now taken.

Remaining
The New Phoenix Concordium
Etherian Colonial Combine (As a secondary player with Alikchi watching you)
..and perhaps other nations

NodeWars is also looking for plain new players...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Alikchi on July 28, 2002, 11:09:54 pm: Yes, the Etherians are under my wing, I don't trust anyone else with a dreadnought mounting an Isolinear Meson Cascade cannon..
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Blue Lion on July 28, 2002, 11:11:17 pm: Bah, I dunno. Even LW seems too story based. My little mind tends to get lost :D Looks a might complicated too

*edit* 1200 posts :D
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 11:16:50 pm: *amasses fleet near the TRRC and charges weapons*

CHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 28, 2002, 11:21:34 pm: [sweeps in from left field with horde of nuclear robot berserker stormtroopers on PCP]

You know, I really should...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 28, 2002, 11:25:11 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
[sweeps in from left field with horde of nuclear robot berserker stormtroopers on PCP]

You know, I really should...

You never put those robots in your OOB! ANd you never even filled out a nuclear armourment statement in tripplicate! God damn it. I'd kick you ass if we had any LL-15/B's left.

*goes off to photocopy some requisition forms*
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 29, 2002, 01:19:55 am: Quote
Originally posted by Blue Lion
Bah, I dunno. Even LW seems too story based. My little mind tends to get lost :D Looks a might complicated too

*edit* 1200 posts :D

Yeah we had to kill your empire and turn it into the heart of festering evil... umm did I say that? :drevil:
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 29, 2002, 05:33:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheVirtu

Taken
The Orion Empire is now taken.

Remaining
The New Phoenix Concordium
Etherian Colonial Combine (As a secondary player with Alikchi watching you)
..and perhaps other nations

NodeWars is also looking for plain new players...

If nobody takes the New Phoenix Concordium I'll be running it.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 29, 2002, 08:01:13 am: *Cowers in shame.*

Yes, I admit... The TRRC is up for grabs if anyone wants it. Its a lovely sector. With lovely people... Please don't rape and pillage them :( .... Its possibilites are limitless!

Maybe I should add something to the story thread in which Yosemity blows his brains out or something. :P

I'm sorry I couldn't play, but this summer so many others things have come up that its taken most of my time, and I practically forgot about it.

Oh well, if anyone wants it. Its yours...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 29, 2002, 08:03:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce
*Cowers in shame.*

Yes, I admit... The TRRC is up for grabs if anyone wants it. Its a lovely sector. With lovely people... Please don't rape and pillage them :( .... Its possibilites are limitless!

Maybe I should add something to the story thread in which Yosemity blows his brains out or something. :P

I'm sorry I couldn't play, but this summer so many others things have come up that its taken most of my time, and I practically forgot about it.

Oh well, if anyone wants it. Its yours...

Its gonna be raped and pillaged alright :D!
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 29, 2002, 08:20:20 am: Why?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 29, 2002, 08:22:21 am: Because :D

(Well, nobody seems to want to join and your nation is a very juicy target cause you have almost NO military...)

And I do want to know this : Why tha hell have you made R&R colony!?
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 29, 2002, 08:23:35 am: Quote
Originally posted by Blue Lion
heh, I tried, didn't like it. Found Librawars more exciting

And then I took over the squabbling splinter factions of the LSE and managed to make a good story out of it. (In fact, it's still going.)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 29, 2002, 08:24:59 am: Quote
Originally posted by TheVirtu

Taken
The Orion Empire is now taken.

Remaining
The New Phoenix Concordium
Etherian Colonial Combine (As a secondary player with Alikchi watching you)
..and perhaps other nations

NodeWars is also looking for plain new players...

Don't forget the Chimeran Technocracy.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 29, 2002, 08:28:32 am: Quote
Originally posted by Tiara
Because :D

(Well, nobody seems to want to join and your nation is a very juicy target cause you have almost NO military...)

And I do want to know this : Why tha hell have you made R&R colony!?

Well, it had a rather good security force. And I made an R&R colony cause no one else had one. And it was cool and original. Legalized gambling, great hotels, "personal favors", basically the Vegas of Freespace. But like I said, I had other things to do. Now, I don't know why you'd wanna go and destroy all that , when it can be used to gain control... Have an influence in things. You know, be the person everyone comes to when they want something "Not so legal". But oh well, if you're inclined to rape and savage decent hard working people hell bent on giving tourists a good time, I guess I can't stop you. Though I can say when Yosemity blows his brains out. All the money will be jetisoned to the closest star! :D So, there won't be anything left except the people. :D Have fun.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Zeronet on July 29, 2002, 08:37:26 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mad Bomber

Don't forget the Chimeran Technocracy.

Thats gonna be part of the TSA :D. Course most of its fleet will be sold off so i dont have a stupidy large fleet(it'll still be large though).
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 29, 2002, 08:46:45 am: Well, I just wrote a lovely little ending for Yosemity and his reign in the Story thread. :D
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Tiara on July 29, 2002, 08:52:27 am: That Janice is cold... Yosemite blows his brains out and she just sighs and goes home... :p
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Dark_4ce on July 29, 2002, 08:59:13 am: Yeah. But I always liked her. In the previous stories Yosemity always asked her to rather nasty things like blow up space stations and kill people who were really lucky at the crap tables. :D So she really didn't have any love for him. I was originally going to have Yosemity kill her one day cause she knew too much, but I guess she got lucky. :D
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 29, 2002, 09:35:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
Thats gonna be part of the TSA :D. Course most of its fleet will be sold off so i dont have a stupidy large fleet(it'll still be large though).

Hmm i wonder who it'll be sold off to...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Zeronet on July 29, 2002, 10:12:09 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mad Bomber

Hmm i wonder who it'll be sold off to...

I dont know, but the TSA Navy will be a Sol legion in strength, it makes things easier to balance if i just keep my navy around that. Most likey the JCs empire will get some ships due to his current navy being far underpowered.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 29, 2002, 10:59:12 am: BTW, if anyone does take the ECC, they should probably look over the Etherian language documents I wrote up.

Yes, I know. I have no life.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: TheVirtu on July 29, 2002, 01:42:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Mad Bomber
BTW, if anyone does take the ECC, they should probably look over the Etherian language documents I wrote up.

Yes, I know. I have no life.

:p
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: an0n on July 29, 2002, 04:59:07 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Dark_4ce

Well, it had a rather good security force. And I made an R&R colony cause no one else had one. And it was cool and original. Legalized gambling, great hotels, "personal favors", basically the Vegas of Freespace. But like I said, I had other things to do. Now, I don't know why you'd wanna go and destroy all that , when it can be used to gain control... Have an influence in things. You know, be the person everyone comes to when they want something "Not so legal". But oh well, if you're inclined to rape and savage decent hard working people hell bent on giving tourists a good time, I guess I can't stop you. Though I can say when Yosemity blows his brains out. All the money will be jetisoned to the closest star! :D So, there won't be anything left except the people. :D Have fun.

But the Gay Mafia are already the staple of the criminal underworld. And I'm a slaver anyway so my main interest was the people. But this Vegas idea interests me. Maybe I won't simple decimate my share.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 29, 2002, 07:51:58 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

Thats gonna be part of the TSA :D. Course most of its fleet will be sold off so i dont have a stupidy large fleet(it'll still be large though).

Not I have anything to say about it... :drevil:
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Zeronet on July 30, 2002, 05:31:45 am: Quote
Originally posted by Ace

Not I have anything to say about it... :drevil:

:rolleyes: And how many systems will your empire end up with? More than the 11 or so systems mine will have..
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Shrike on July 30, 2002, 05:43:46 am: Doesn't matter, his empire will be a collection of fledgling colonies and illiterate hicks. :p
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Zeronet on July 30, 2002, 05:48:27 am: I dont currently have a empire :(
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: TheVirtu on July 30, 2002, 11:15:53 pm: Yeah Zeronet, you just have 4 splinter factions :P
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: JC Denton on July 30, 2002, 11:17:48 pm: And I didn't build any more ships because I devoted all my construction capacity on those dang dreadnoughts wEvil wanted...

But anyways, I'll get my second wind...eventually. ;)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 30, 2002, 11:21:33 pm: Dark 4ce: Bah. My Dogstar Republic was the major recreational drug dealer for the entire galaxy. When we jumped out, thosands of tons of primo were jettisoned and destroyed. But nobody cried when I left! Ungrateful bastards, THEY'LL see...

NW people have no social lives, anyhow. They're pawns to be exploited and destroyed at will.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Kamikaze on July 31, 2002, 12:00:29 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
NW people have no social lives, anyhow. They're pawns to be exploited and destroyed at will.

But pawns are important... if you wait long enough they get a sex-change and become queens...
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Ace on July 31, 2002, 12:17:58 am: Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet

:rolleyes: And how many systems will your empire end up with? More than the 11 or so systems mine will have..

Actually it'll be smaller then yours when you eat the CT :p
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 31, 2002, 12:41:27 am: Quote
Originally posted by Kamikaze
if you wait long enough they get a sex-change and become queens...

...But, for one thing, if I use the term "exploited" with that sort of thing in mind, it becomes something else altogether...;7

And, for another, the metaphor doesn't carry that far.
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Kamikaze on July 31, 2002, 12:43:01 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9

...But, for one thing, if I use the term "exploited" with that sort of thing in mind, it becomes something else altogether...;7

:p

anyway, only the players are pawns, the moderators have THE T..... err... I've said too much ;)
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Stryke 9 on July 31, 2002, 12:45:53 am: I was referring to the imaginary people that you rule over.

For all you know... BWUHAHAHHAHAAAA! HAHAHA!
Title: REQ: Nodewar.
Post by: Kamikaze on July 31, 2002, 12:47:53 am: Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
I was referring to the imaginary people that you rule over.

For all you know... BWUHAHAHHAHAAAA! HAHAHA!

But then, real people are like that anyway :p:ha: