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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 30, 2001, 12:16:00 pm
Hello  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Just pimping my new campaign, Pandora's Box, which is available for download here (//"http://dl.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?3dactionplanet/freespace/pbox1.zip").

Hope you enjoy it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif).  Post any comments, complaints, etc. here.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Sushi on March 30, 2001, 01:04:00 pm
You want to spill any details?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 30, 2001, 01:33:00 pm
Oh, if I must  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif).

Basically, its set about a year before the Shivans return.  The NTF is at its peak of power, with complete control over Polaris, Regulus, Sirius and pressing the GTVA hard in Alpha Centauri and Deneb The player is a new pilot on the GVD Abydos in the secure Vasuda system.  You have little to do other than routine escort missions until the NTF makes a raid into the system and steals a Hecate-class destroyer with a full compliment of modern fighter and bomber designs.  Geuss who gets to help hunt down the NTF and take back/destroy the stolen destroyer?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Jabu on March 30, 2001, 01:43:00 pm
It's a good campaign. Flying that rusty tin can is a bit tough at times, but at least it can turn  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Sushi on March 30, 2001, 02:28:00 pm
Sweet.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on March 30, 2001, 07:24:00 pm
I am definitely loving this campaign. One of my missions keeps on crashing, however - I suspected it was too many polys, but I set the details right down (one bar for each section) and it still doesn't work. There aren't even that many ships in it, anyway.

The mission I'm having trouble with is the capture of the Pandora... I disarm it quickly, then Epsilon (and Delta?) wing jumps in, with a bunch of other hostiles IIRC. Then, I get no warning, and I'm just booted out of FS2, and I find myself back on the desktop - no parser error, no BSOD, no nothing. I'm puzzled.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Joey_21 on March 30, 2001, 07:31:00 pm
I'm getting REALLY  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif) at the Scramble! mission! I keep failing even IF the iron fist departs. I'm wondering WTF is going on? I failed it 2 times already and I'm thinking it is a bug.

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 30, 2001, 10:34:00 pm
Okay, Joey found a bug in the campaign file that, as he had the misfortune to find out, can be quite annoying.  I'm not sure how I missed it, but anyways, I am almost halfway done with a fix for it.  I'm going to fix the .vp file and I'll mail the fix to those of you who already have the campaign.  Sorry for my ineptitude  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 30, 2001, 10:36:00 pm
Setekh:  That is very strange...I've never had problems with that one.  I'll see what I can do though   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).

Doh!  Almost forgot!  I need to know, are you flying Vasudan craft or Terran craft in that mission?

[This message has been edited by Ice Heart (edited 03-30-2001).]
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on March 31, 2001, 08:42:00 am
I'm flying a Herc 2.

Don't worry, I checked out the mission file with my trusty text editor and figured there was no plot-worthy stuff in there (really), so I just failed the mission five times and skipped to the finale. Nice work.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Martinus on March 31, 2001, 09:34:00 pm
Jeeze mission 1 is difficult enough, I'm dead unless I'm flying something that can take a few hits  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Have you considered adding voices? I know it's a lot of work but it would do justice to a great piece of work. Kudos to you.

Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on March 31, 2001, 10:59:00 pm
I love the Anubis Mk. II. Very nice ship.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Voices are hard... would be cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't think the voice quality would be that good, unless you can get your hands on a professional recording studio.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 31, 2001, 11:50:00 pm
I put this up on the VBB, but I might as well do it here to:

Almost have it done.  My gaming harddrive decided to die today so that put a serious cramp in everything (not to mention creating a big mess as I removed fistfuls of hair at that little development  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif) ).

Anyways, I backed up not so long ago and have the full campaign there as well.  I'm putting it on my 'work' harddrive for the time being (until I get my other one replaced  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)).  I've got the campaign file fixed and the offending mission almost fixed...there's still something in one of the events that I've missed.  Tommorrow morning (my time anyway, which is -1 hour VBB time) and it should be done  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  Again, sorry about this  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).


Now for things here  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  I'll still see if I can fix that mission, Setekh, its probably a wonky bit of event coding on my part somewhere.  As for voices, I've considered it, but voice actors seem to be at a premium.  The biggest problem I have is I can't make a decent translator voice.  Anyone know of a good program that might alter voices like that?  With that, I could do voice for translator and Command, maybe some other minor ones if I could make it higher/lower pitched.  Any volunteers for other parts?  If you'd like to, just record yourself saying something like.  "Iron Fist under attack!"  and something a bit calmer like.  "We are on course for the jump node, command."  Send them to me at:  [email protected]
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on March 31, 2001, 11:53:00 pm
The voice quality probably wouldn't be that great though, since a recording studio is an impossibility at this time for me  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on April 01, 2001, 01:30:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Ice Heart:
Now for things here   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  I'll still see if I can fix that mission, Setekh, its probably a wonky bit of event coding on my part somewhere.

No rush, I've finished the campaign anyway. I have to say it again: very nice job. There's simply no better implemented campaign out there today.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Darkage on April 01, 2001, 03:55:00 am
Iam getting a sepx error in the first mission when its loading,Its a beam free error for the guradian and moscow (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
could some one send me a updated version of it pls?

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: The Claw on April 01, 2001, 08:30:00 am
 
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kudos
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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 01, 2001, 12:57:00 pm
Okay, I've got the fix completed...I'm setting up a mass mail now to get it out to everyone who has already downloaded the campaign.  I've also sent a version that has the fixes in the .vp file to Setekh so that will be up soon.  Until then, if you download the zip file 'PBox1.zip', post here or at HLP or contact me via e-mail and I can send you the fix.  The updated file will be designated PBox101.zip.  Thanks for your patience   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).

Darkage:  Hmmm...thats a different one  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).  Did you beta test the campaign at some point?  If so, you may still have that mission in your missions directory, I believe the release version has a few differences in that mission.  The first mission is titled 'NTFCamp1a', if you have it in your missions directory that may be the problem.  Delete it and the conflict with the .vp should be gone.  Other than that, I'm not sure what the problem could be but I'll still look into it.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Darkage on April 01, 2001, 01:13:00 pm
All i did was putting the vp file in the data folder whit the rest of the vps started fs2 and when it loaded it took me back to windows,i also checked the mission folder and there where no mission files in it from the campaing.
you can mail me the newer one to  [email protected]

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 01, 2001, 05:20:00 pm
Alright, the campaign is now up at HLP for download  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  It can be found here:   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) ("http://www.3dap.com/hlp/freespace/campaigns/pbox101.zip").

Note, this version is the updated version which fixes the bug that Joey_21 encountered.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 01, 2001, 09:49:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Jabu:
It's a good campaign. Flying that rusty tin can is a bit tough at times, but at least it can turn   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


Rusty tin?!


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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 01, 2001, 11:07:00 pm
Bah, you Terrans just can't fly  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 01, 2001, 11:45:00 pm
What rusty tin? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/confused.gif)

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2001, 03:48:00 am
Play the campaign  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 02, 2001, 04:42:00 am
Downloaded already. I may play it tonight.

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Starwing on April 02, 2001, 11:59:00 am
Can't get it to work  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
The game always gives me an Ulysses fighter in the very first mission. And since the Ulysses can't carry the Mekhu...

I removed all mods from the data directory, so that isn't it.

I took a quick look into the tables and noticed another thing: the numbers behind the description strings in the ships.tbl and weapons.tbl, you should change them to -1 to make the game use these strings (the numbers belong to entries in the tstrings.tbl, and the game will use these instead of those in the ships.tbl/ weapons.tbl)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Jabu on April 02, 2001, 04:09:00 pm
I just took all the tables out of the vp and stuck them in the tables folder. Works fine that way  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

[SOME PLOT STUFF]
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I just finished it. The funny part in that mission where the Iceni blasts through the node is that if the Typhon isn't destroyed, the mission is failed, but if it is, the mission is a success  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 02, 2001, 08:50:00 pm
Oh damn, you mean it still screws up sometimes?  I thought I had that fixed...oh well...update time again I geuss  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  Yeah, its part of the story so it is supposed to die...can't be letting the GTVA get off easy now can we?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif).

Speaking of updates, if you d/led the campaign before today I would recommend d/ling it again as I found another bug...in the first Vasudan branch I somehow toggled a mission to be a loop when it had only one branch.  Result was it kept forcing you to repeat the mission  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).  Not sure how I did that but its fixed now  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 02, 2001, 08:54:00 pm
Hmmm...that is kind of an odd thing.  I wonder why it doesn't want to find the tables in the .vp for some people, yet works fine for others.  In any case, looks like you found a solution Jabu, hella kudos to you  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif).  Anyone else having oddball problems with it either putting nothing but a Ulysses in place of something or simply dumping you back to the desktop please try what Jabu suggested, it seems to work rather well.

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 02, 2001, 09:44:00 pm
So I have to download it again?

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 03, 2001, 12:09:00 am
Yes, unfortunately  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).

Or, I can send you the new campaign file.  Actually, I'll just do that...it should overrule the one in the .vp.  Check your mail  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 03, 2001, 12:13:00 am
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[This message has been edited by Ice Heart (edited 04-02-2001).]
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 03, 2001, 12:37:00 am
I got it, Ice Heart! Thanks!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif)

Did you by any chance get your nickname from a Star Wars book?

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Setekh on April 03, 2001, 02:33:00 am
He did. The one with the red and blue eyes, right? I read that one too  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 03, 2001, 03:43:00 am
Her name was Ysanne Isard. Also known as Iceheart. She thought killed in an Imperial Shuttle near Thyferra by Tycho Celchu. The book was called the Bacta War I think,

Then she reappeared in Isard's Revenge and in charge of a secret TIE Defender squadron. SHe was killed by Wedge Antilles.



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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 03, 2001, 10:59:00 am
You get a cookie  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).  Yep, thats where I got it...I was reading one of the books at the time I first found the VBB and, lacking any other name that I could think up, I borrowed that one.  I rather liked that character, for some reason I've always had a thing for harsh, powerful women  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif).  That and thanks to TIE Fighter I've always liked the Empire over the Rebels  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Jabu on April 03, 2001, 11:21:00 am
That bug I told you happened in the earlier version, before I got the e-mail. I don't know if it's fixed  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Starwing on April 03, 2001, 02:47:00 pm
Extracting the tables didn't help, but after I created a new pilot it suddenly worked :confused Maybe something was messed with the pilot file, the funny thing was, that I got the image of the Anubis on the ship loadout screen, but there were no ship icons for the wings and available craft. And weapon loadout simply gave me a Ulysses.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Jabu on April 03, 2001, 02:51:00 pm
Did you extract all the tables?

They work fine for me...
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Starwing on April 03, 2001, 02:53:00 pm
Yes, I extracted them all, and now it works for me too, but only after I created a new pilot.
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Admiral LSD on April 03, 2001, 05:56:00 pm
I had the same problem as darkage, but my fix was a little different: I discovered I already had a ships.tbl active in the data directory (one I'd used to hack the good ol' Valkyrie back into the main campaign instead of the Perseus) and that was screwing Ice Hearts campaign around. I didn't even have to create a new pilot   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) . Oh btw does the link you posted above (and on the VBB) to the version hosted here link to the bleeding edge version?

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Ice Heart on April 04, 2001, 11:20:00 am
Yep, it goes to the latest version  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif).  That one should be the last time I have to update it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).
Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: NeoHunter on April 05, 2001, 03:28:00 am
Was the one you sent me the latest?

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Title: A campaign that has nothing to do with Shivans or what happened after Capella
Post by: Darkage on April 06, 2001, 06:27:00 pm
Verry good campaing dude i like it alot much detail (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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