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Title: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: CT27 on April 16, 2016, 08:52:37 pm
http://www.cnet.com/news/you-should-uninstall-quicktime-for-windows/
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/15/technology/windows-quicktime/
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3056650/security/uninstall-quicktime-for-windows-now.html

Due to there apparently being no incoming patches for some known security issues with Quicktime, Microsoft Windows users of the product are being advised to uninstall it (especially since iTunes no longer needs Quicktime to work)...though they say Mac users of Quicktime can leave it installed.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Klaustrophobia on April 18, 2016, 01:18:19 am
I was all, "Hahaha, who still has quicktime anyway?", and then I second guessed myself and checked.  Apparently I do.  Well, not anymore.   :blah:

I'm guessing it snuck itself in with itunes, which is only used for converting and transferring music to the ipod.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: CT27 on April 18, 2016, 01:37:27 am
Good news is that iTunes can work fine without Quicktime these days.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on April 18, 2016, 07:53:28 am
Unfortunately, this means that Escape Velocity: Nova is no longer safe to install.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Scourge of Ages on April 18, 2016, 05:13:40 pm
I was all, "Hahaha, who still has quicktime anyway?", and then I second guessed myself and checked.  Apparently I do.  Well, not anymore.   :blah:

Exactly what I did :D
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: headdie on April 20, 2016, 04:20:20 am
Unfortunately, this means that Escape Velocity: Nova is no longer safe to install.

Quite a few games from that era on the quiet used quicktime to handle video playback
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Luis Dias on April 20, 2016, 04:26:56 am
Kind of ironic for MS to do this, given the memories of one of the almost-to-have-been darkest moments in PR history for Microsoft, when Apple found out media player had copy pasted huge chunks of code from quicktime.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Mongoose on April 20, 2016, 03:59:06 pm
Unfortunately, this means that Escape Velocity: Nova is no longer safe to install.

Quite a few games from that era on the quiet used quicktime to handle video playback
I somehow doubt that having something like QuickTime 5 installed for an old game is the focus of this security alert. :p
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Phantom Hoover on April 20, 2016, 06:50:18 pm
If it's integrated into your browser then it's a massive concern. If it isn't then it's still a pretty major risk. On a normal desktop machine a remote execution exploit pretty much translates into owning the entire machine.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 21, 2016, 09:24:18 pm
Unfortunately, this means that Escape Velocity: Nova is no longer safe to install.

Oh son of a *****, I was just going to get that for my new computer...
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: jr2 on April 24, 2016, 03:15:46 pm
Put QuickTime + the game in SandboxIE (http://www.sandboxie.com) or an alternative (http://alternativeto.net/software/sandboxie/)?

Would QuickTime Alternative (http://www.filehippo.com/download_quicktime_alternative/) work?
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Klaustrophobia on April 24, 2016, 05:47:12 pm
Or, accept the small risk while you have the game installed.  If you want to get super paranoid about it, unplug from the internet, install, play, uninstall.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on April 24, 2016, 06:59:06 pm
Would QuickTime Alternative (http://www.filehippo.com/download_quicktime_alternative/) work?
Apparently it does.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: deathspeed on April 24, 2016, 07:11:56 pm
I know nothing about the game, but will it run with K-Lite Codec Pack installed in lieu of QuickTime?  I installed K-lite years ago to play QuickTime files thru VLC rather than the QT program.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 24, 2016, 10:46:59 pm
Thread title filed under "duh."

Quicktime is a plague upon the technological world and long since should have been purged, with fire if necessary.  No one on PC should install that bull****, ever.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: jr2 on April 25, 2016, 07:45:16 am
Why is QuickTime such a POS?  Apple supposedly can do no wrong with their OS (according to some).. did they just drop the ball on this, or what?  I mean, they care about their brand, right?
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: The E on April 25, 2016, 08:18:25 am
Yes, but quicktime is increasingly irrelevant at the consumer level ever since web streaming in the form of youtube really took off. It's a piece of technology that has been overtaken by other things, and so I guess Apple has decided to focus their efforts elsewhere (Plus, QuickTime X, the current version shipped on and for MacOS, isn't easily portable to other OSes).

The reason why Quicktime is a POS has to do with it being an entire multimedia framework. It's not just an audio-video container thing, there are a lot more components to it, and as shown in the vulnerabilities discovered in the OP, some of those vulnerabilities allow for remote code execution. Those things can happen; they're not a sign of ball-dropping.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: Luis Dias on April 25, 2016, 08:24:39 am
Like Java, I never enjoyed having to install QuickTime. Doesn't mean one is stupid for installing them, just that they had necessities.

For decades I also had to have installed Windows XP. Doesn't mean I liked it.
Title: Re: Windows users are advised to uninstall Quicktime
Post by: The E on April 25, 2016, 08:27:22 am
Yeah, pretty much. Couple years ago, having quicktime installed for those few videos that needed it (for me, old stuff from LoadingReadyRun's back catalog) was a thing I felt compelled to do.