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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Raven2001 on July 12, 2001, 05:44:00 am
Ok, I'm trying to make a weapon that acts like this...

When you fire it at a cap ship, it permanently destroys all subsystems and turrets.

How can I do this??
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Slanker on July 12, 2001, 05:55:00 am
bazillion range, quadrillion subsystem multiplicator, ultra-elite damage and 0 damage to hull&shields  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Snipes on July 12, 2001, 09:52:00 am
Yep. Basically. Or use a trigger to destroy all subsystems when the ship is damaged
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: morris13 on July 12, 2001, 11:13:00 am
I think it'll have to be a trigger in the mission itself. You can't make a weapon that acts like that all by itself because no matter what the damage is it's not going to hit ALL the subsystems and turrets, because some are on the other side of the ship and just won't take any damage. The only way around this that MIGHT be possible is with a shockwave, but i don't think the subsystem factor applies to shockwave damage too so a shockwave that would take out all the subsystes would probably also take out the ship. Thats also assuming that a shockwave will let you hit stuff on the other side of the ship which i'm not sure if it will or not.
Anyway - end result is that it'll be a lot easier to just use sexps to do it in FRED2.
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Snipes on July 12, 2001, 12:15:00 pm
a beam the size pof jabu's bfgreen and slash  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Jabu on July 12, 2001, 02:53:00 pm
It's called VIGreen, from the Finnish phrase "Vitun Iso", which roughly translated is "F*cking Big".

Anyway, if you give a weapon that has no hull/shield damage a large shockwave, would the shockwave damage hulls/shields?


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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: morris13 on July 12, 2001, 09:17:00 pm
Right, but the problem with both of those suggestions is that they will only damage subsystems and turrets that are actually in the path of the beam. Everything on the other side of the ship will be untouched no matter how much damage it does, unless it destroys the ship outright.
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: QXMX on July 12, 2001, 09:53:00 pm
You could launch little bomblets that explode around the ship with shockwaves, like a super-large flak gun.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: morris13 on July 13, 2001, 11:05:00 am
You'd still have a really hard time hitting turrets on the opposite side of the ship. I really think sexps are the way to go on this one.
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: aldo_14 on July 13, 2001, 02:55:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by morris13:
You'd still have a really hard time hitting turrets on the opposite side of the ship. I really think sexps are the way to go on this one.

Maybe you could have that as a 'feature'.  The Sunburst missile or something - clears out every turret on the impacted side.

Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: The Avenger on July 14, 2001, 12:35:00 pm
that would be a bit unbalanced how about having it destroying them within a certain area f the impact?

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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Fozzy on July 14, 2001, 01:09:00 pm
why dont you use the SMM table and make a model of an unarmed ship.

when the weapon fires it launches the old ship at the target ship...

in the weapons table tell the ship to have emp and a very large blast radious and loads of subsystem damage.
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: The Avenger on July 14, 2001, 04:22:00 pm
does it have to be a ship or can it be a missile? it would look a bit freaky pressing the trigger and a ulysess comes firing out of your ship?

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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: morris13 on July 14, 2001, 05:52:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by The Avenger:
does it have to be a ship or can it be a missile? it would look a bit freaky pressing the trigger and a ulysess comes firing out of your ship?

A Ulysses, hell, you could press the trigger and have a Collossus come out.
Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: Bobboau on July 14, 2001, 07:19:00 pm
make it a tag weapon and have that as the trigger, give it a real short tag life though.

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Title: Need help with a weapon
Post by: The Avenger on July 15, 2001, 05:47:00 am
Does it have to be a tag missile could it be a modified mx-64? or could it be a missile that aldo makes himself?

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