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Title: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: snake60 on June 04, 2016, 10:55:44 pm
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/neocypher/blog_20160531_image11_zpsjior0bw2.jpg)

Source : http://www.overclock.net/t/1601566/various-computex-2016-pic-video-heavy/820#post_25229361
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: NGTM-1R on June 05, 2016, 02:37:55 am
HTL Sath, check the arms.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 05, 2016, 05:43:37 am
is that a.... CASE?  o.0
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Kobrar44 on June 05, 2016, 05:45:04 am
But why "xtreme gaming"? FSO can actually run on a potato.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on June 05, 2016, 06:28:21 am
Right up until you turn shadows on :P
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Trivial Psychic on June 05, 2016, 07:48:27 am
Isn't that the Sath model form the current Media VPs, (says Captain Obvious)?  Did someone at that convention ask permission from the Team (or Volition) before using it?
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 05, 2016, 12:03:24 pm
I'm no expert but it seems to me that would fall pretty solidly within fair use.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 05, 2016, 12:18:35 pm
That's completely, totally wrong.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Droid803 on June 05, 2016, 06:38:46 pm
Dats pretty cool
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Klaustrophobia on June 05, 2016, 11:46:56 pm
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: qwadtep on June 06, 2016, 01:37:07 am
That reminds me, there's an (Xfinity?) ad on Twitch that has what looks suspiciously like a Kentauroi. I'll have to pay more attention next time it comes up.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on June 06, 2016, 01:42:38 am
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
Or you could try reading something about fair use (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) before saying something would "fall pretty solidly within" it. For starters, this would obviously seem to be a commercial usage (unless you're suggesting Gigabyte slapped their brand all over this for non-profit educational reasons?). Your best argument would be that it doesn't commercially harm either Volition or Rga_Noris(? I think that's who modeled that version, but somebody correct me if I'm misremembering that), but if that's your only argument, you're on very weak footing for arguing Fair Use.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Grizzly on June 06, 2016, 03:12:13 am
That's completely, totally wrong.

Maybe then you can either explain or refrain from being a smug ass about it?
Or you could try reading something about fair use (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) before saying something would "fall pretty solidly within" it. For starters, this would obviously seem to be a commercial usage (unless you're suggesting Gigabyte slapped their brand all over this for non-profit educational reasons?). Your best argument would be that it doesn't commercially harm either Volition or Rga_Noris(? I think that's who modeled that version, but somebody correct me if I'm misremembering that), but if that's your only argument, you're on very weak footing for arguing Fair Use.

... Unless it turns out that the modeler actually works for Gigabyte now :p
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on June 06, 2016, 03:38:04 am
... Unless it turns out that the modeler actually works for Gigabyte now :p
Except it's still based on Volition's IP, so they'd also need to give permission.

Which would still, by the way, not be "Fair Use" (which specifically is for using it without getting permission).
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Phantom Hoover on June 06, 2016, 04:53:07 am
Slapping your brand all over someone else's work so you can use it for advertising is not limited use in a transformative work for the purposes of commentary, criticism or parody, which is what fair use is actually for.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Dragon on June 06, 2016, 02:04:46 pm
On the other hand, didn't Rga_Noris has release his model without any licensing information (I can't find any in his thread, at least)? If someone just found the model on Google or somesuch, how was he supposed to know that it's based on some obscure, ancient video game? While the Sathanas itself is :v: IP, this particular model was made by Rga_Noris and I don't think :v: has any rights to it (that said, the model in itself is in a legal gray area, too).

It probably still isn't exactly legal, but IMO, it should be. They're not even using Sathanas itself (as in, any of the story behind the design), just the shape, which to most people is just a cool shape. I see no intention to hijack :v: property for advertising.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: CP5670 on June 07, 2016, 10:12:33 am
It would be hard to make any serious case on this. I don't think any license (if we have one at all) would be binding since the models are based on commercial IP. A bigger question is, what was the point of this? I doubt anyone there would know about Freespace well enough to recognize the Sathanas, and if you don't know what it is it just looks some weird sculpture, especially in that color scheme.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: The E on June 07, 2016, 11:32:07 am
I think that's the point here.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Bobboau on June 07, 2016, 01:53:15 pm
I have a feeling there was some sort of contest and these were the winners, that's just what this looks like to me, but I have no evidence of that, so let this be the post that drives you to do more than mere speculation.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: Charismatic on July 01, 2016, 05:57:37 pm
is that a.... CASE?  o.0

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: LaineyBugsDaddy on July 02, 2016, 02:30:28 pm
He means a computer case. And, so far as I can tell, yes, it is.
Title: Re: Computex 2016 has been Shivanized !
Post by: JCDNWarrior on July 02, 2016, 05:22:16 pm
I suppose this is how the Shivans infiltrate and destroy 'god' tier civilizations: let themselves be shown off, popularized, then before you know it the sun's gone supernova.