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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: LtNarol on August 06, 2002, 08:25:46 pm
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Ok, this may have been discussed already, but I couldnt find it, so here it is.
Was production on the Aeolus line halted at anytime before, during, or planned for after the FS2 timeframe?
If so, what was the reason behind it?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes it was halted. I think it was just before the NTF-GTVA war. I think they gave a raw figure of how many were produced, but I can't remember. They were halted because they weren't as effective as they had planned. And the newer Corvettes were doing a better job.
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Nevermind, I feel really stupid, found the entry in the ships table. Sorry bout this yall.
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Sucks though, the Aeolus rocked
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True, but Aldo's new warcruiser class mods (GTWc Griffin and GTWc Orc) do a fine job of taking its place. :)
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
True, but Aldo's new warcruiser class mods (GTWc Griffin and GTWc Orc) do a fine job of taking its place. :)
Orc you say? I haven't seen that one. Can you direct me to a picture or something? Cheers.
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Aeolous kicked hella ass, 2 dozen were made i beleive, thats 24 for you bakers out there
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Pegasus, I don't know if there are any pictures of the GTWc Orc on the 'Net. You might try Aldo's Reciprocity website, but since the Reciprocity campaign is undergoing a rehaul (or so I understood), you might not find a pic there anymore.
However, I do have the Orc on my hard drive. The problem is, I don't have all the Orc files organized into a zipfile, so it will take me at least a day to organize everything and send it to you via e-mail.
And I don't have your addy yet...
But one thing at a time. Keep in touch, Peggy, and I'll try to help you out.
Or you could save yourself the wait and go to Aldo directly. I'm sure he could send you a zipfile of the Orc straight away. It's his mod, after all. :)
Originally posted by Knight Templar
Aeolous kicked hella ass, 2 dozen were made i beleive, thats 24 for you bakers out there
Yeah, bakers seem to think a dozen equals 13, not 12. Call me a paranoid schizophrenic, but I could never trust anyone who wasn't triskadecaphobic. ;) :D
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
But one thing at a time. Keep in touch, Peggy, and I'll try to help you out.
Cheers :yes: . -PMed-
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
Yes it was halted. I think it was just before the NTF-GTVA war. I think they gave a raw figure of how many were produced, but I can't remember. They were halted because they weren't as effective as they had planned. And the newer Corvettes were doing a better job.
That's ridiculous. That ship is pure death to fighters and bombers stupid enough to attack it. I did hear somewhere that the aeolus was discontinued because it was too expensive to make so it was better to save the money and build corvettes instead.
That makes more sense cause if the aeolus was much cheaper than a deimos the GTVA would be foolish not to build more.
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Originally posted by karajorma
That's ridiculous. That ship is pure death to fighters and bombers stupid enough to attack it. I did hear somewhere that the aeolus was discontinued because it was too expensive to make so it was better to save the money and build corvettes instead.
That makes more sense cause if the aeolus was much cheaper than a deimos the GTVA would be foolish not to build more.
I'll see what I can find tonight. It certainly was more powerful than a Fenris/Leviathan in FS2, that's for sure...
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
I'll see what I can find tonight. It certainly was more powerful than a Fenris/Leviathan in FS2, that's for sure...
Anything is stronger then a Fenris/Leviathan, even a cargo container could destroy a Fenris and 2 Containers can destroy a Leviathan.:D
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"The Aeolus was a fine ship for the time of the initial NTF rebellion, however her anti-fighter defences proved to minimalistic against the swarms of Shivan fighters encountered during the Knossos War (fs2). Her ship-to-ship beam weapons were here main saving grace, but even these were inferior compared to the damage a Corvette could meat out. The Aeolus suffered from her designers lacking an understanding of Shivan tactics, or perhaps an ignorance of them. This ship was designed to fight ships built by Terrans or Vasudans and as such was little use after the quelling of the NTF. " - Matt's non existent Freespace Encyclopedia
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But surely we've destroyed them all by now? :D As far as I'm concerned, the Aeolus went back into production after the death of Capella due to the fact that the GTVA's major adversaries were flying small ships, and capship to cpship battles were rare, so anti fighter weaponry would be far more practical than anti capship. Simple :).
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One more thing: although 24 of them were produced, at least 14 or 15 were destroyed during the FS2 campaign, so they are few of them left now. I decided to bring them back in my campaign (created a similar excuse to Black Wolf's :D), but that is not official.
They should have discontinued the Fenris instead; the armor on that thing is crap... :headz:
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Yeah, Aeolus is very good ship, it's fast, has firepower and is pretty tough. It's well balanced, has the power against other large ships and also against fighters and bombers, compared to Shivan cruisers like Lilith, which can destroy large ships fast, but can't do much to fighters.
I don't like attacking Aeoluses. ;)
Originally posted by karajorma
the GTVA would be foolish
GTVA is stupid, usually. :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
They should have discontinued the Fenris instead; the armor on that thing is crap... :headz:
Who says they didn`t. I get the impression that they stopped building the fenris long ago but that they are so many of them that they turn up all the time.
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Every terran cruiser has a role, I wouldnt send a Leviathan on escort duty, they're too slow.
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Who says they didn`t. I get the impression that they stopped building the fenris long ago but that they are so many of them that they turn up all the time.
I suppose that could be true, but they tend to pop up so often that it seems that production definitely went on longer than it should have. :p (even if it ended by the end of FS2)
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Originally posted by darkage
Anything is stronger then a Fenris/Leviathan, even a cargo container could destroy a Fenris and 2 Containers can destroy a Leviathan.:D
"We've got 2 incoming cargo containers! Scramble the fighters, this is gonna be rough"
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Well in FS1 you only had the Orion, Levi and Fenris. They must have built hundreds of them. They could have stopped building all three 10 years before the start of FS2 and still have tonnes left so that they could keep popping up all the time. :)
Production of all three probably stopped as soon as the GTVA had a replacement but there would still be lots of them left :)
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Do we have any idea just how many were made? I mean you see so few from what I thought they had.
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I haven't seen anything in FS canon to suggest any sort of number of FS1 ships. As for not seeing very many of these ships, You're not everywhere at once during the events of FS1 and FS2, so none of us can see the whole picture (if that even means anything).
Whether it's hundreds or dozens, I honestly have no idea.
But considering the large size of Terran and vasudan destroyers (and the fact that there are only 13 terran fleets and 13 vasudan battle groups) there can't have been more than a few dozen GTVA destroyers at the start of FS2. There couldn't have been more than 100 or so destroyers total.
Remember, during the NTF Rebellion, destroying ONE cruiser and ONE destroyer constituted a major victory. For that to be so, capital ships would have to be relatively rare.
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Very true Su-Tehp. Anyway, what ever happened to the thread "The Entire GTVA Fleet (and a future one)" was this a VBB thread, it had every capship mentioned in the FS2 campaign, it was a great reference tool.
BTW, the bedt thing about the aelous is that it looks like a handheld vacuum cleaner.
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Well the GTVA was pretty powerful, i mean they built the Collosus while their economy was in recession.
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The fenris was only useful for anti-fighter duties until you got a maxim and infynos. i hate aaa beams
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Originally posted by LtNarol
Every terran cruiser has a role, I wouldnt send a Leviathan on escort duty, they're too slow.
Maybe, but Aeolus has 30m/s speed, so it's fast, and it's tougher than Leviathan, and has about the same firepower as those both combined. It's likely more expensive, though. :)
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Well the GTVA was pretty powerful, i mean they built the Collosus while their economy was in recession.
The Terrans were in recession for a while during the reconstruction Period after the First Great war, but the Vasudans had a huge economic boom at the same time when Khonsu II took over. And the Colossus took almost 22 years to complete; it's likely that the Terran recession (if we can call it that) ended, or at least mostly tapered off, by the start of FS2. Yeah, the NTF guys were pissed at the vasudans for their good economy, and Polaris, Regulus and Sirius were economically hard hit during the Reconstruction, but I'm sure Bosch and the (at this time secret) NTF would have adapted Polaris, Regulus and Sirius' economies once they knew they needed to build more ships to begin their rebellion.
My point is that I don't think the Terran recession lasted the full 22 years while the Colossus was being constructed and the Vasudans didn't really have much of a recession at all.
Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
Very true Su-Tehp. Anyway, what ever happened to the thread "The Entire GTVA Fleet (and a future one)" was this a VBB thread, it had every capship mentioned in the FS2 campaign, it was a great reference tool.
I think you mean CP5670's ship list. I have a copy of it somewhere, but I need to find it first. PM me and give me your addy and I'll send you a copy.
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Right here: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/procyon/fs2csd.rtf :D
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Also:
http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html
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I've got a ship list right here (www.geocities.com/alpha_quadrant_project/fsurp.html).
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Ok, about the Minnow in that list, it has to be an Orion... It said the "GTD Minow will assist with the blockade." GTD, shows it is terran, and the only terran destroyer in fs1 is the Orion...
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While the inclusion of FS1 ships is good CP5670 did a much more detailed list. I think you should use as many of his facts as he'll let you :)
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The Aeolus is good. It's too bad it was discontinued.
[p1mp][eden]
Fortunately, in 2373, the GTVA started refurbishing old Fenrises and Leviathans, giving them completely new midsections and updated internals.
The result was the Peleus-class cruiser. It is just as effective as the Aeolus, but is much, much cheaper.
[/eden]
Appearing only in the Eden Project. :D
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Originally posted by Hippo
Ok, about the Minnow in that list, it has to be an Orion... It said the "GTD Minow will assist with the blockade." GTD, shows it is terran, and the only terran destroyer in fs1 is the Orion...
It is not stated anywhere that the Orion is the only destroyer of the Terran fleet.
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
It is not stated anywhere that the Orion is the only class of destroyer of the Terran fleet.
But we can safely assume during FS1 that the Orion was the only class of Terran destroyer. There isn't a hint of any other kind of destroyer ever existing until the Hecate came along in FS2.
It's also stated (or hinted, at the very least) that until the Leviathan came along, the only kind of cruiser was the Fenris.
How long did Terrans have subspace travel before they met the Vasudans? Until the Terran-Vasudan war began, the GTA probably needed only colony ships and civilian tansports to move interstellar traffic. No warships would have been needed because the Terrans hadn't even encountered the Vasudans until 2321, when the T-V War began.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
How long did Terrans have subspace travel before they met the Vasudans? Until the Terran-Vasudan war began, the GTA probably needed only colony ships and civilian tansports to move interstellar traffic. No warships would have been needed because the Terrans hadn't even encountered the Vasudans until 2321, when the T-V War began.
You're probably right, but we should assume anything.
It's also stated (or hinted, at the very least) that until the Leviathan came along, the only kind of cruiser was the Fenris.
I think you're right about this. I suppose the Fenris was the first Terran cruiser. Gee, it's been around a while, huh?
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CP's ship list needs AWACS. The rest is quite thourough, but since AWACS vessles are named and apparently fairly rare, they should be included. The Lucidity and Panopticon come to mind, though there are several more.
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Aeolus's were probably stop being made after it was discovered that they caused the crews to defect to the NTF. How many do you destroy? Quite a few :D
As to the really reason....?
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CP's ship list needs AWACS. The rest is quite thourough, but since AWACS vessles are named and apparently fairly rare, they should be included. The Lucidity and Panopticon come to mind, though there are several more.
Don't forget the Hamako
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There are some Aeoluses (Aeoli?) in the campaign that dont get killed, there must be more than two dozen altogether.
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Using CP5670's excellent Capital Ship Database I`ve found the following Aeolus class cruisers.
GTC Vigilant
GTC Warwick
GTC Agrippa
GTC Stalwart
GTC Templar
GTC Malta
GTC Ertanax
GTC Sparta
NTC Alexandria
NTC Liberty
NTC Epigoni
NTC Loyola
NTC Mylae
NTC Hellespont
NTC Saharan
That's all that are in the game. As for why so many defected to the NTF? Well the NTF didn`t have an hecate class destroyers maybe the additional aeolus crusiers were sent to make up for that lack until they could make some for Bosch's fleet. Of course when Bosch turned traitor he took them with him :)
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Everybody is forgetting the GTC Adamant from the demo. (O/T) I recently reinserted the voices from the demo and played the missions again, and I must say that "Crisis in Capella" is one of the most entertaining missions the [V] ever made. This is proably due to the heavy voice exchanges the cruiser and fighter crews.
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I do like chatter between cap-ships in missions. That's why I like 'Surrender Belisarius' because of the chatter. :)
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Well the GTVA was pretty powerful, i mean they built the Collosus while their economy was in recession.
haha, but you forget, the GTVA showed their state in the final outcome of the Collosus. The GTVA is and will forever be stupid. You could tell they were constructing the thing in their recession because of how much it sucked. I don't even ever recall it having the specs that the cutscene said it did. And even if it did, it sure didn't use all 12 of it's beam cannons. The oversized watergun sucked so much, I've seen real waterguns that were stronger than it. It just makes you wonder when you laugh your ass off when the stupid thing is firing 1-3 beams every couple seconds at the Sathanas and the commander of it is saying the whole thing is overloading. Ahhh...yes...the stupidity of the GTVA. It makes you wonder why those two headz aren't better than one.
:headz: :doh:
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Why do you think members like myself, Karl and Dr. Zer0 are Shivans? :D
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The GTVA needed ship designers like we've got here... then the GTVA would've been the great-destroyers ;)
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Originally posted by karajorma
Using CP5670's excellent Capital Ship Database I`ve found the following Aeolus class cruisers.
GTC Vigilant
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NTC Saharan
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As far as I know, there's no solid information about the type of cruiser the Vigilant was. It was mentioned as destroyed for SM1-04's mission Command briefing by Shivan Rakshasa cruiser + 3 Mara fighter wings during patrol of GammaDrac node in Capella. Unless... was it shown in any cutscene? I didn't check those... :-/
And the Saharan is actually a NTFC, whatever the heck that is. I somehow managed to miss that one in my database. :)
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Unless... was it shown in any cutscene? I didn't check those... :-/
I'm pretty sure it was an Aeolus in the briefing ani.
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Yeah, it was an Aeolus; the shivan Rakshasa cut across its midsection with some beams as it exited subspace, ripping right through the cruiser's hull. That was actually one of my favorite briefing animations.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
And the Saharan is actually a NTFC, whatever the heck that is. :)
A typo. :D
Look at it in FRED or in the mission and it's quite obviously an aeolus. Someone simply made a mistake and included the letter F.
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Originally posted by karajorma
A typo. :D
Look at it in FRED or in the mission and it's quite obviously an aeolus. Someone simply made a mistake and included the letter F.
*waits for daveb to waltz in here and explain how it wasn't a typo, that it actually stood for Neo-Terran Fools Club or something...*
;)
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Well the GTVA was pretty powerful, i mean they built the Collosus while their economy was in recession.
Any government can funnel its tax dollars into building up the military, even during a recession *cough* Reagan *cough*
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Originally posted by penguin
Any government can funnel its tax dollars into building up the military, even during a recession *cough* Reagan *cough*
:lol:
Yeah, and nowadays Dubya is trying so hard to act like Reagan, but it's just not happening... :rolleyes:
Hey, Shrub! I got yer trifecta right here! :mad: :mad2: :drevil:
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Yeah, and nowadays Dubya is trying so hard to act like Reagan, but it's just not happening... :rolleyes:
What, senile and not quite aware of what's going on around him? I'd say he's doing a good job of that
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Originally posted by aldo_14
What, senile and not quite aware of what's going on around him? I'd say he's doing a good job of that!
:lol:
I dont know about the senility part, but Dubya definitely doesn't seem too aware of what's going on around him and he doesn't seem to care even if he is in the know. :doubt:
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Well, he's from Texas and as a result he tends to shoot from the hip.....
Then of course there's his little poodle and lap dog.....:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Well, Bush is from Texas and as a result he tends to shoot from the hip.....
Then of course there's his little poodle and lap dog.....:rolleyes:
And here I was thinking Dubya was Cheney's lap dog! :wtf:
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There's a lot of lap dogs then.
I was thinking about T**y Bl***
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*wanders around muttering God Save the Queen*
Just 'cos he agrees with Washington doesn't mean he's bending over and taking it up the...
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CP's ship list needs AWACS. The rest is quite thourough, but since AWACS vessles are named and apparently fairly rare, they should be included. The Lucidity and Panopticon come to mind, though there are several more.
Yes, I was thinking of adding in all ingame ships with unique designations instead of just the capital ships only. I also need to add in the demo mission ships and probably the FS1 ships too; well, I will do all this in a few days when I get my main computer running again.
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i dont know about you guys but i put a aeolus in my missions on fs1 and it turned an orion into scrap!!
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
There's a lot of lap dogs then.
I was thinking about T**y Bl***
Professor Liebstrom.
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My Armageddon could rip any other ship to shreds, if not fired upon :nod:
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i dont know about you guys but i put a aeolus in my missions on fs1 and it turned an orion into scrap!!
Where did it approach the Orion from? (Orion's beams are more on the sides than the front)
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Originally posted by CP5670
(Orion's beams are more on the sides than the front)
Uhm... read carefully:
Originally posted by The Refugee
i dont know about you guys but i put a aeolus in my missions on fs1 and it turned an orion into scrap!!
No beams. :D
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Well it's hardly surprising, must have taken a long time though.
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Mmkay. I tested the Aeolus and my GTC Peleus ;) separately against wings of fighters and bombers.
Here is the way it worked out.
3 Perseuses + 3 Medusa's (standard loadouts for all) attack the target cruiser. Invariably, they die, but generally they cause quite a bit of damage to it before they do.
Then 3 GVF Heptu's come in (Mekhu/PromS, Hornet/Tornado) and start bombarding it.
The Aeolus did not fare as well as the Peleus. While the Peleus usually managed to get through both waves with at least 35% hull, the Aeolus kept dying from them. Twice the Aeolus died from the first wave, before the second one even showed up. (Peleus often escaped with over 50% hull, but not always.)
Keep in mind that the Aeolus has 38000 hull and the Peleus has 45000. That difference isn't enough to solely account for the Peleus's survival and remaining hull strength.
Therefore, I concluded that the GTC Peleus is better at antifighter than the Aeolus.
:thepimp:
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I dont know about you guys but I put an aeolus in my missions on fs1 and it turned an orion into scrap!!
Yeah, it would do a number on an Orion. Think of how many guns the Aeolus has total compared to the Orion. Not to mention it's smaller too so that if broad-siding it can bring more of it's front/rear weapons about as well as all it's upper and lower turrets. Whereas the Orion only has those weapons mounted on the side, and maybe the huge turret packed on the underside of the nose. The rest of them wouldn't be able to depress their turrets to fire at the smaller ship.
Not to mention the Aeolus has 12 turrets, an Orion has 16!
So there would be at least 9 turrets that could shoot at the Orion while only 5 at max could fire back.
Arm the missle launchers with cyclops's or stilletoes and watch those numbers drop rapidly.
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
:lol:
I dont know about the senility part, but Dubya definitely doesn't seem too aware of what's going on around him and he doesn't seem to care even if he is in the know. :doubt:
"Better to keep silent and be thought of as a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt."[/b]
The Orion should have been refit with more weapons and bring it up back up to Destroyer specs. While it's main beams have excellent coverage, too many of it gunpoints are taken up with anti-cap weapons. :v: should have added more gunpoints to make it more able to defend itself against enemy fighters.
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You will NOT slander the orion. The Aeolus is a supercruiser by all specifications, the Orion can still destroy one with ease if it had beams enabled. While the Aeolus has 12 guns, the better half of them are flak with only 2 capship grade beams and 2 anti fighter beams. Flak wont do jack to an Orion unless you leave the aeolus in the engine wash of the orion for a few dozen hours. Loading an aeolus with stilletos and or cyclops is stupid as well as impossible. The Aeolus does not have missile turrets, and anyone can put BFgreens on a fenris and make it the most powerful GTVA vessel around. Tampering with loadouts doesnt yield an acurate test.
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There's no slander going on about the Orion.
And that's my bad, I thought the Aeolus had a pair of pirahna launchers.
But you're not taking the theme of the question into speculation there.
If the weapons were downgraded to FS1 standards then there would only be terran turrets on the Aeolus and the Orion.
If it were a FS2 slugging match it'd be over really quickly with the Orion and it's BGreen and Slashers ripping the two SGreen weilding Aeolus apart.
And have you ever had two corvettes fight each other? I had forgotten to enable beams on two Deimos corvettes. The orbited each other at about 500meters and fired nothing but flak at each other. They were down to 75% in about 5 minutes.
So it wouldn't take forever with 3 flaks and two huge turrets with beams disabled.
But all in all yeah, with the upgrades going on with all the new ships, one would think that destroyers would get a few more laser turrets for defence scattered about. If they're not going to get phased out for awhile (and I doubt they will, hell, look at how old the fenris is!) they could afford some more upgrades for a ship that size.
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corvettes take less punishment than the orion and the have more flak cannons than the aeolus. In fs1, there is no flak and so what you would have is a laer battle where the aeolus can bring to bear a couple more guns than the orion but would still die first because its hull is significantly weaker.
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Originally posted by LtNarol
Flak wont do jack to an Orion...
You'd be amazed at how powerful flak really is against capital ships.
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Originally posted by Sandwich
You'd be amazed at how powerful flak really is against capital ships.
That's been my experience too. Flak is quite potent anti cap, faster rate of fire than AAAf, more power than laser turrets.
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Bear in mind that - IIRC - many of the Aeolus' turrets are actually on the sdame object (i.e. 2 turrets on object 'turret7', etc) -so if you blow up the right bits, you can take it down a notch far quicker than you might think.
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Beams do even more in FS2 and there is no flak in FS1, so the point is moot as a pair of beams will still tear a ship apart much faster.
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Originally posted by LtNarol
Beams do even more in FS2...
:wtf: Even more than what? Beams in FS1??? :confused:
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I think he means that beams in fs2 do more damage than [whatever] in FS1...
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That all depends on how powerful the pulse weapon in question is...
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meant that in FS2 beams do more than flak, and there is neither in FS1
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i never, EVER truly understood why flak beams are there. what's their purpose? i mean, i've never tested them or anything, but are they meant to shoot down incoming hostile bombs or something? they're annoying, yes, but not dangerous, are they?
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the only thing i like about beams in FS2 is the way they charge up and charge down... that 'humming' as they're about to fire, and the glow that starts
i don't like the actual 'concept' of a 'beam' though
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Originally posted by Stealth
i never, EVER truly understood why flak beams are there. what's their purpose? i mean, i've never tested them or anything, but are they meant to shoot down incoming hostile bombs or something? they're annoying, yes, but not dangerous, are they?
er....if you mean flak, then it's to shoot anything incoming. without shields, it's very effective IMO. Especially if you crank up the fire rate :nod:
Oh, and I love FS2 beams . Remind me of the the powered up megalaser in Cybernator :) (SNES game with an anime style big stompy robot... not sure what the name was in other countries)
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yeah i didn't mean Flak BEAMS, i meant just regular Flak
so it's to shoot anything without shields, including incoming bombs, right/ :)
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Flak isn't accurate enough to shoot down bombs, all that much. Generally, normal pulse guns (Terran Turrets) are used to shoot down bombs. Flak is used to annoy fighters and bombers. Once their shields are down, flak is really l33t.
Flak is also useful as a light anticap weapon.
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the only thing i like about beams in FS2 is the way they charge up and charge down... that 'humming' as they're about to fire, and the glow that starts
that's actually one of my personal favorite things about the beam...
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Beams = very good and very nice :yes:
Flak = good and very nice :)
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i LOVE beams. Beams rule, i dream about beams.. ok that was a lil embarrasing to say but i wish they had beam like things in more things. They don't have anything like 18 - Inch cannons in FS/FS2 the turrets were just a joke. Until they think of something more clever, beams kick ass
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I had run up an auto-loading shell turret. 16", 24" and 60" variants depending on the size of the turret firing it (Terran huge turret replacements.)
They were massively large but the large ones could only target caps or stationary targets. (Just like cap beams).
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+Tech Description:
XSTR("The GTC Aeolus is the first cruiser class ever produced by the RNI shipyards orbiting Laramis II. Only two dozen of these cruisers were put into service in GTVA fleets, with production ending in 2365. Allied Command assigns Aeolus-class ships primarily to guard slow-moving convoys against fighter and bomber wings, as these cruisers are severely out-gunned by most capital ships in service today. Their flak and AAA turrets serve as marvelous deterrents to smaller craft, however.", -1)
$end_multi_text
"Put into service into GTVA fleets" = That's not how many were produced. There may have been many, many more.
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Originally posted by Pegasus V
+Tech Description:
XSTR("The GTC Aeolus is the first cruiser class ever produced by the RNI shipyards orbiting Laramis II. Only two dozen of these cruisers were put into service in GTVA fleets, with production ending in 2365. Allied Command assigns Aeolus-class ships primarily to guard slow-moving convoys against fighter and bomber wings, as these cruisers are severely out-gunned by most capital ships in service today. Their flak and AAA turrets serve as marvelous deterrents to smaller craft, however.", -1)
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"Put into service into GTVA fleets" = That's not how many were produced. There may have been many, many more.
So what did they do with the rest of them if not put them in the Fleets?
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put them in war museums maybe? :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
put them in war museums maybe? :D
:lol:
Smuggle spacecrack and Bosch beer?
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meh, there's not really anyone else to sell them to, so if only 24 were bought by the GTVA, then I'd say the most that could have been produced is about 30. (It explains how the pirates in Derelict have them.)
Thus, I shall once again p1mp the much cheaper and more plentiful GTC Peleus:
(http://www.fattonys.com/images/Peleus.jpg)
:D
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intresting... looks a lil like our friend mr. Orff i think, although i could be wrong
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Correct you are. Very, very, very correct. ;)
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an aeolus is tough as nails especialy for its size. They are dumbasses for discontinuing it. I hate engaging those things in anything but an erinyes. its a small target which means slash weapons do litlle to no damage.
Best way to killl it is to neutralize the beam cannons staraight away. Also getting it from behind is good if its not moving.
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please, take a look at the date of the previous post before you respond people. Obviously you had to go search for this topic. :rolleyes:
Really, guys, this is getting ridiculous. :doubt:
EDIT: and if for some reason you don't know what you did wrong because you forgot, are new, whatever, posting in topics older than 4 months old is generally frowned upon, unless you have something divine to say or it's absolutely necasary.
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no i actualy tried to respond 2 minutes after the post before that on another computer and lemme tell you, that was slow...
Intellect Online (for those of you who dont know what it is you dont need too.)
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:wtf: 11 months slow? :wtf:
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youve never heard of intellect online have you?
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Well it seems it sucks
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While this thread is still open, let me mention that on the first page where it talks about the cargo containers (and the related comments later on) was one of the main inspirations for Deus Ex Machina. :thepimp:
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Originally posted by Krackers87
no i actualy tried to respond 2 minutes after the post before that on another computer and lemme tell you, that was slow...
Intellect Online (for those of you who dont know what it is you dont need too.)
I don't need to know, apparently, and so I am left with one big
(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/wtf.gif)
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Wow Sandwich, that is big. Let's race it against this one:
(http://www.angelfire.com/magic/diamondgeezer/Images/wtf.gif)
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(http://www.angelfire.com/magic/diamondgeezer/Images/wtf.gif)
:D
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Please explain Intellect Online.
This excuse intrigues me.
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worst online service period.
we cancelled subscription 8 months ago but we still get service.
run from 1 store called intellect
i think theres only 1 person left who still pays for it.
seriously my mom is friends with a guy who works there.
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More than a year old thread rebornt. :)
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If I had a GIF editor I'd do a 1600x1200 WTF smiley :nod:
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(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/blah.gif)
Then don't keep replying!
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
If I had a GIF editor I'd do a 1600x1200 WTF smiley :nod:
EDIT: Drat, HTML is off. :doubt:
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(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif)
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The thread should be renamed 'huge smiles'
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The next time one of these such threads is bumped so heinously, I will personally turn my trousers inside out and sing Le Marsellaise, whilst dancing barefoot upon a bed of onion jelly.
Let this be a warning.
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(http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
The next time one of these such threads is bumped so heinously, I will personally turn my trousers inside out and sing Le Marsellaise, whilst dancing barefoot upon a bed of onion jelly.
Let this be a warning.
:eek:
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Leave these smiling faces to the hell! Open a new thread, where you can make a duel about who can make better smilies!
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See, Topace mate, it's a bit late for that because it's already happened, hasn't it?
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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
See, Topace mate, it's a bit late for that because it's already happened, hasn't it?
Just in order to prevent the third ressurection of this thread from nowhere.