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Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 07, 2002, 02:14:07 pm: (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t1-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t1.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t2-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t2.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t3-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t3.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t4-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t4.jpg)
~500-550 polys. 15% - 20% longer than the Hathse... however you spell that vas destroyer.

The bottom needs a little more work perhaps.

Anyway, you know the drill... ;)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: KARMA on August 07, 2002, 02:36:11 pm: very nice, only part that i don't like is the "nose", i think that with this "mesh style" a develop from front to rear would be better, i mean: large parts on front that become thin in the rear, i can't explain better what i have in mind, sorry:)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: karajorma on August 07, 2002, 02:40:24 pm: I like it. Very strange in shape with bits that seem to serve no purpose. Yep. It's definately a vasudan ship :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 07, 2002, 02:40:33 pm: Yeah, I think the big "fish tail" thing needs to go to the rear. It doesn't look good in the front.

Otherwise, this mod has potential. :nod:

EDIT: I just had an idea; instead of moving the fish tail to the rear, keep it where it is and just rotate it so that it is horizontal rather than vertical. That would make it look much better. :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 07, 2002, 03:00:49 pm: Thanks for the comments. :)

Actually, I'm quite happy with the overall design. I think I will make the front bit somewhat thicker, though.

More comments! :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Styxx on August 07, 2002, 03:56:52 pm: Looks very... Vasudan. :D

Cool design, very integrated with general 'zog lines. Now to add some textures!! :D
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: an0n on August 07, 2002, 04:00:11 pm: Looks like the Even Horizon crossed with the aliens from Pitch Black. Would make a very cool evil ship that's to serve some nefarious purpose.

Sorta looks like a Vasudan Iceni.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Pegasus V on August 07, 2002, 07:55:03 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
...crossed with the aliens from Pitch Black.

:D Hey it does!!

This is a cool design! It's about time I said that about a user made Vasudan vessel.

The Repten is cool too, but it looks more like a pre-GreatWar vessel.

I like it the way it is. Well... add textures of course, but the design is great.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Sheepy on August 07, 2002, 08:21:16 pm: I would just say chop off either the top or bottom split bit, then i think it would look just about perfect.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Pegasus V on August 07, 2002, 09:03:59 pm: Cheers for the link in your signiture Sheepy.

-edit- tones down the gratitude.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Sheepy on August 07, 2002, 09:20:39 pm: so u keep sayin, geez home much thanks can one guy give ;)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 08, 2002, 12:17:17 am: Thanks all! :)

If I don't come up with anything else to add, I'll start the texturing. :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Bobboau on August 08, 2002, 12:43:29 am: needs something on the botom of the back
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on August 08, 2002, 02:12:47 am: looks cool. :yes:
can't wait to see the textured version. and the fish tail looks cool :nod: nice job.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 08, 2002, 02:25:49 am: Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
needs something on the botom of the back

I've been thinking the same thing. I couldn't think of anything good to put down there. I will have to experiment some more.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: KARMA on August 08, 2002, 12:35:38 pm: mm the more i look at that frontal nail the more i don't like it...it seems a fish with robin hood's hat to me:p except for that element i think it its great:)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Assassin on August 08, 2002, 01:44:57 pm: Leave it as it is, its perfect.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Galemp on August 08, 2002, 10:25:34 pm: So this is what Vasudan Attack Fishies look like...

;)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 08, 2002, 10:43:05 pm: I have a question: where's the bridge? If it's located at the top of the rear of the ship, every time they try to look front, the fishtail will be in the way.

Captain: (translated from Vasudan) All ahead full!

Helmsman: (translated from Vasudan) But sir, the big fish tail thingie is in my line of sight! The only thing I can see in front of us is our tail!

Captain: I gave you a direct order! All ahead full!

Helmsman: Aye aye, sir...

*One minute later the Vasudan destroyer inadvertently rams a ravana in the side.*

Helmsman: Um... oops.

*Big explosion ensues, leaving only, of course, the fish tail piece as debris.*

EDIT: I know I already said this (perhaps I deserve to get flamed for mentioning it twice), but I wouldn't mind seeing the fish tail made horizontal.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 08, 2002, 11:18:09 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Su-tehp
I have a question: where's the bridge? If it's located at the top of the rear of the ship, every time they try to look front, the fishtail will be in the way.

Sensors ;)

Edit: Would a Destroyer's bridge have viewports? Seems bad in a beam fight.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Assassin on August 09, 2002, 04:41:29 am: I think if the fish head tail was turned horizontal, it would make the entire ship look horrible.

Its damn nice as it is! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: IPAndrews on August 09, 2002, 05:53:30 am: Great design. Great looking ship. Doesn't look Vasudan in the slightest IMHO :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: SadisticSid on August 09, 2002, 06:09:04 am: Hmm. I think it would look better if the tail were the back and fat, detailed bit were the front. If anyone remembers the Galor-class Cardassian warships out of Star Trek, you'll know what I mean.

Sid.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 09, 2002, 07:51:02 am: Galor's are ugly, IMO. At least, they were the last time I looked at one.

I have made a few changes to the model, but I'm not sure I'll keep those.:blah:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: vyper on August 09, 2002, 08:00:19 am: Its like a fish. :headz:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Unknown Target on August 09, 2002, 08:16:47 am: Very vasudan. However, I think the fish tail should stay in the front. Makes it look like it is definately NOT terran.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Mr Carrot on August 09, 2002, 08:22:36 am: agreed, how about either taking off the top spikey bit at the front, or angling them both backwards a bit more......
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Galemp on August 09, 2002, 08:57:32 am: Here's an idea. Add a large blister to both sides of the top fin, as if a sphere was lodged in it. I think it would make it look more alien, and it could serve as a sensor subsystem.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Bishop Gantry on August 10, 2002, 04:55:01 am: remove the lower section so the ship gets a flater botoom..

rotate the fins 90 degrees

then id call it Vasudan
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 10, 2002, 07:00:19 am: The fins - fish tail, stays vertical. I like them that way.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Raven2001 on August 10, 2002, 09:48:17 am: Very... Cool!!! I go with Bobboau... add something on the bottom... the fish thing looks cool :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Hudzy on August 10, 2002, 01:10:07 pm: I like it. No need to change it. :nod:
Title: Update
Post by: Ryx on August 25, 2002, 10:50:17 am: (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/t5.jpg)

As you can see, I'm attempting to make my own textures, though less successfully.

I'll add more colour later, but for the moment, the brown colours will do. I hate the 2D part.
Feel free to pass any tips 'n tricks my way.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StratComm on August 25, 2002, 04:56:09 pm: have you tried the Hapshepsut textures? They will probably look just as good.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Kellan on August 25, 2002, 05:23:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by an0n
Looks like the Even Horizon crossed with the aliens from Pitch Black.

Exactly what crossed my mind. Exactly why it is so cool.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Martinus on August 25, 2002, 09:22:22 pm: That's beautiful! :eek:

I wouldn't change a thing about the design. :yes:
It looks more like a strike corvette or something though, smallish and fast with a decent array of weapons upfront.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Raven2001 on August 26, 2002, 07:14:41 am: Ryx, don't try to create your own textures for capships... the FS2 do just as good :)

BTW, I think that the texes used for Bobboau's Apep and Amit will look very cool on that Destroyer :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ulundel on August 26, 2002, 07:29:15 am: Very vasudan. Send it to me...the original one and without textures. :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 27, 2002, 12:49:39 pm: (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/trender1-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/trender1.jpg)
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Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StratComm on August 27, 2002, 02:16:19 pm: :jaw: were are the good smilies when we need them? Good texturing job, brings out the detail well and should fit in nicely with the original Vasudan capships.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Petrarch of the VBB on August 27, 2002, 03:13:11 pm: It looks like a tentacle-less ravana to me.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Raven2001 on August 27, 2002, 04:21:10 pm: Dude!! Great!!! send it to me, and I'll get it converted for you :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Galemp on August 29, 2002, 08:38:03 pm: Wow... I mean... wow.
The only thing I would change is to change that yellow tile on the sides to the dark brown of the Typhon. What would that look like?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Knight Templar on August 29, 2002, 09:53:43 pm: :thepimp:

hella p1imp ship man
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 29, 2002, 10:53:26 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Ryx
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/trender1-t.jpg) (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/trender1.jpg)
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I take back everything I said about the front fin needing to be made horizontal. :eek:

Damn, Ryx! You've made a believer out of me!:eek2:

I WANT THIS SHIP![/COLOR] ;7 :D :nod:

How soon until it is ready?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 29, 2002, 11:06:34 pm: Download (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Th/Textured%20vas%20destroyer.exe) - Feel free to play with the textures.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 29, 2002, 11:16:21 pm: Done and done!

And I mean done!:D
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 29, 2002, 11:46:43 pm: Hey, wait a minute....

Um... where's the pof file?

Where's the table entry?

Where is the mod?

Ryx, what's up with this...?

Oh, crap. The mod's not done yet, is it? :(
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 30, 2002, 12:00:46 am: Yeah :o,

I don't know the pof and the table bits. 'just' a modeler, I afraid. :o
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on August 30, 2002, 12:23:18 am: Quote
Originally posted by Raven2001
Dude!! Great!!! send it to me, and I'll get it converted for you :)

Ryx, did you send everything to Raven2001? He is a great modder, maybe he can finish this ship. :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on August 30, 2002, 03:21:27 am: I sent the textured model to Raven and an untextured model to Ten of Twelve. *see earlier posts*
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Raven2001 on September 03, 2002, 04:02:13 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Su-tehp

Ryx, did you send everything to Raven2001? He is a great modder, maybe he can finish this ship. :)

LOL!! I'm not that great, cause I can't convert the model... but, since Ryx is working with me in CIM, I took the liberty of asking my converter to convert the ship... then I will make it a .tbl entry and voilá!!! It will take some time though, because he is tied up for now... but don't worry :)

BTW Ryx, did you texture the model?? Your UV mapping skill is increasing by the hour :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on September 04, 2002, 09:30:44 am: Yep, I mapped it.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 04, 2002, 08:02:03 pm: Any chance of a finished screenie ?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on September 05, 2002, 05:35:45 am: Well, there's the render on the previous page, that's the final textured one. That is, the one I textured. Since I don't know how to do the pof stuff or tables, I don't have any ingame shots to show.:blah:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Raven2001 on September 05, 2002, 07:57:46 am: Be pacient, young Padawan... :D
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 05, 2002, 08:24:15 am: I have a 35 turret, 2 lod, 3 debris version of it done :)

No POF data and I'm just going to test it if anyone is interested...

I was bored :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on September 05, 2002, 10:01:51 am: Here's a few pics of Woomeister's magic :eek:

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/tempeth1.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/tempeth2.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/tempeth3.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/tempeth4.jpg)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 05, 2002, 10:05:49 am: Rather odd matchup IMO, I dint think it would be facing an Iblis. But oh well.

I hereby give my stamp of approval :D
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StarGunner on September 05, 2002, 10:35:34 am: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister
I have a 35 turret, 2 lod, 3 debris version of it done :)

No POF data and I'm just going to test it if anyone is interested...

I was bored :)

Can you pout that POF and that ship up for DL now?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 05, 2002, 03:38:55 pm: I'll put it up in about 30 mins. I need to remove two fighterbay paths and make a proper table entry for it.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 05, 2002, 04:31:23 pm: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/extra/Tempeth.zip

Done.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Thor on September 05, 2002, 04:40:18 pm: I'll test it on my machine soon.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Galemp on September 05, 2002, 04:58:40 pm: Whew! I absolutely LOVE it! I've noticed something: The head is a separate submodel. Seperate submodels can rotate.
Are you thinking what I'm thinking? :devil:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 05, 2002, 05:04:44 pm: It won't work :p

it's seperate as the model is 930ish polys for the main hull.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StarGunner on September 06, 2002, 01:29:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister
http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/extra/Tempeth.zip

Done.

you pout tarren ship Textours on a Vasudan ship!!!!!!!!!! don't do that it makes it look funky:confused: :wtf: other than that it kicks A$$!:thepimp: P.S. I just got a modeling program! so I can fix it myself! cool!
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: quadinhonic_II on September 06, 2002, 01:55:43 pm: Quote
Originally posted by StarGunner

you pout tarren ship Textours on a Vasudan ship!!!!!!!!!! don't do that it makes it look funky:confused: :wtf: other than that it kicks A$$!:thepimp: P.S. I just got a modeling program! so I can fix it myself! cool!

I Dl'ed it. I think if you change the texture "TSOUPtile" something or other, to "cruisertile1", it would look more Vasudan and less Terran.

What do all of you think?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 06, 2002, 02:15:15 pm: Quote
Originally posted by StarGunner
you pout tarren ship Textours on a Vasudan ship!!!!!!!!!! don't do that it makes it look funky

I didn't, I just converted it :p
I changed that texture to an Inferno Vasudan tile for my personal copy :)
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Galemp on September 06, 2002, 02:33:31 pm: Quote
Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
The only thing I would change is to change that yellow tile on the sides to the dark brown of the Typhon. What would that look like?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on September 06, 2002, 06:18:51 pm: Finally! A Vasudan cap ship that looks like it is worth the name! :D

I'm going to test this bad girl tonight. At last I have something to upgrade the Vasudan fleet in my campaign! ;7 ;7 ;7

Woo and Ryx, great job putting this this destroyer together.

Now all I have to do is find an appropriate Egyptian name... :cool:

BTW, what does "Tempeth" mean anyway? Is that Ancient Egyptian? I don't think it sounds like it... :wtf:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: quadinhonic_II on September 06, 2002, 06:26:13 pm: How bout "Asheru"?

Dont know what it means but i know for certain its Eygption.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Su-tehp on September 06, 2002, 10:41:15 pm: Asheru sounds good. It sounds like a sneeze, too, but why quibble?

Scene: Somewhere in Ancient Egypt....

1st Egyptian: Asheru!

2nd Egyptian: Ra bless you!

:D
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: quadinhonic_II on September 07, 2002, 12:22:06 am: I'm glad you like it. I got a whole book full of Greek, Eygption, and Hindu names. But most-all of the good ones are reserved for my campaign.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Ryx on September 07, 2002, 02:45:38 am: You can change the name if you want to. ;)

Quote

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
The only thing I would change is to change that yellow tile on the sides to the dark brown of the Typhon. What would that look like?
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Where exactly the 'fins'? or further back :confused:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: aldo_14 on September 07, 2002, 08:33:01 am: This may be of use....I forget the source, but it's what i've been using;

Major Gods
Ammit - Devourer of the Wicked*
Apep - The Great Destroyer
Atum - The All-Father
Bast - Beautiful Cat-Goddess
Geb - God of the Earth
Hapi - God of the Nile River
Hathor - Goddess of Music and Dance
Khenmu - The Great Potter
Kephri - The Great Scarab*
Khonsu - God of the Moon
Mut - Grandmother of the Gods
Nekhbet - Goddess of the Power of Kings
Neith - Goddess of War and Funerals
Nut - Goddess of the Firmament
The Ogdoad - The Primordial Creation Gods*
Seker - The Resurrected Osiris
Set - God of Evil
Shu - God of the Air and Sky
Tefnut - Goddess of Moisture

Minor
Aken - Ferryman of the Underworld
Ament - Greeter of the Dead
Anhur - Champion of Ra*
Anuke - Goddess of War
As - Kindly God of the Desert
Banebdjetet - God of Lower Egypt
Heset - Goddess of Plenty*
Hike - God of Magic and Medicine
Imhotep - Lord of Science and Thought
Kabechet - Helper of Anubis*
Mafdet - Goddess of Scorpions and Snakes*
Mehen - Defender of the Sun Boat
Menhit - Lion-headed War Goddess*
Mertseger - Guardian of the Valley of the Kings
Min - God of Fertility
Nefertem - Lord of the Sunrise*
Pakhet - The Strength of Woman*
Renenutet - Goddess of the Harvest
Satet - Goddess of the Inundation
Upuaut - The Opener of the Ways

*I'm using it for reciprocity, or for another mod...so they'll be a clash. Which may bother you a bit (although I can't say I'd mind that much....) I can't speak for other modders / camopaigns, though.
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StarGunner on September 07, 2002, 03:05:56 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister

I didn't, I just converted it :p
I changed that texture to an Inferno Vasudan tile for my personal copy :)

could you send me a copy of just that model? not the textor, no need I know what to pout in it's place:devil:
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: Woomeister on September 07, 2002, 03:09:27 pm: just open it in modelview and rename the texture you want to replace to the new one...
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: aldo_14 on September 07, 2002, 03:09:29 pm: Quote
Originally posted by StarGunner

could you send me a copy of just that model? not the textor, no need I know what to pout in it's place:devil:

Why not just edit the current model?
Title: Vasudan Warship
Post by: StarGunner on September 07, 2002, 06:40:37 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister
just open it in modelview and rename the texture you want to replace to the new one...

I thoght the Collociss used that texture too:confused: does it?

what do you mean? :confused:

never mined