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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: diamondgeezer on August 07, 2002, 07:13:43 pm

Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: diamondgeezer on August 07, 2002, 07:13:43 pm: OK, so I've got a mission that has you flying escort for two Argos. Pretty much perfect, except for one thing - FS2 is sometimes failing to pick up if the Argos get disabled. At first, it was just affecting Argo 2, and I couldn't work out why the event wasn't firing. I tried substituting 'subsytem-destroyed-engines' for -is-diasbled', and similar stuff, but no joy. When I checked the events log, I realised that FS2 seemed to have not noticed that the ship was disabled, even though it was quite blatantly sat there with 0% engines and a 'D' next to its name. Argo 1 was behaving, and if it was disabled the appropriate event would fire.

Since I had the mission in a campaign, I took it out and flew it from the tech room, and it seemed to work fine. So I put it into a new campaign file, and still it worked OK. Then, without me touching the fc2, it went all wrong again. If that wasn't enough, the disease seems to have spread to Argo 1, and neither of them showed up as disabled.

As the old saying goes, :confused:

Any ideas?
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: Pegasus V on August 07, 2002, 07:18:48 pm: Geez, that does sound strange... I don't know what would be causing that. Have you tryed rebuilding the mission from scratch? That's the only suggestion I have. :(
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: Bobboau on August 07, 2002, 09:52:57 pm: give them a 1 second delay
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: diamondgeezer on August 08, 2002, 01:03:02 pm: No good Bob, they've already got a two second delay. The full SEXP is

when
or
is-disabled-delay
2
Lambda1
is-disabled-delay
2
Lambda2
do-various-things

Any other thoughts?
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: vadar_1 on August 08, 2002, 01:24:56 pm: Its because your using OR, using the OR operator means either one OR the other. So when one gets disabled, the trigger fires, and is used up. Now there is no trigger for the other one. Try using AND, or else make one sexp for each of them.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: diamondgeezer on August 09, 2002, 05:55:19 am: No no no, see, I'm using or because I want the sexp to fire when either Argo is disabled. When both are disabled, a different sexp fires. Looks like I'm going to have to use seperate sexps for the whole lot, but that means more sexps and more to go wrong :sigh:. Never mind.

Edit: And to be honest, I don't hink the sexps ar the problem - it seems that for whatever reason, FS2 isn't recognising that the ships have been disabled.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: SadisticSid on August 09, 2002, 06:15:41 am: I had a similar problem with disabling ships - found no way to correct it.

Sid.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: 15thRampage on August 09, 2002, 07:02:23 am: I'm not a FREDder, but have you try reinstalling FS2?, or try the mission on a diferent computer?
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: aldo_14 on August 09, 2002, 02:14:16 pm: Can you check if the speed is 0 or something?

Do any of the main campaign missions involve disabling craft? Because it could simply be that the sexp is leftover from FS1(?)
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: karajorma on August 09, 2002, 02:40:15 pm: I`ve disabled ships in FS2 before and it worked fine.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: StratComm on August 09, 2002, 08:53:55 pm: Yeah, but disabeling a ship without destroying it is never required to complete a FS2 mission. Repairing a disabled ship is used, and that SEXP may be used there, but I can't think of an example of when that would be used. It came up plenty of times in FS1, but never in FS2. Perhaps because of that quirk in the engine.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: vadar_1 on August 09, 2002, 10:42:23 pm: Ive done this scenario alot in fs2. It works fine, pherhaps there is a corruption in one of your installed mods. Other then that, im out of ideas.
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: StratComm on August 09, 2002, 11:03:56 pm: What is the SEXP triggering? That may have something to do with the problem...
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: diamondgeezer on August 11, 2002, 06:37:51 pm: I'll assume it's either a corupted/otherwise dodgy mission, or me uber-cracked tbls. Watch this space --->
Title: Random and downright odd problem
Post by: Anaz on August 11, 2002, 08:34:31 pm: there is nothing happening in that space