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Title: Carrie Fisher passes away, drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra.
Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 27, 2016, 02:33:32 pm
I had a feeling we would be receiving this news pretty fast after the news of her in-air heart attack circulated around the world. It still struck me pretty deeply.

She will be missed.
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Post by: Mongoose on December 27, 2016, 03:16:57 pm
I am going to find a way to ****ing murder a calendar year, so help me God.
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Post by: Dragon on December 27, 2016, 05:06:07 pm
First Han Solo and now Princess Leia? Bummer, I'm really glad this year will soon be over. Here's to hope 2017 will be better (it's not that it's a high bar to clear, but the overall tendency has recently been distressing...).

This isn't gonna be good for Episode VIII, at any rate. Leia is the last character I'd want to see a bridge dropped on, but I don't see anyone else in that role, either...
I am going to find a way to ****ing murder a calendar year, so help me God.
Try blasting it to oblivion. Four days and the entire planet will start shooting rockets at it. That'll show it.
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Post by: niffiwan on December 27, 2016, 05:41:19 pm
This isn't gonna be good for Episode VIII, at any rate. Leia is the last character I'd want to see a bridge dropped on, but I don't see anyone else in that role, either...

I recall there's an article that said she'd finished filming her role for EP 8, it'll be EP 9 that might have problems.
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Post by: Det. Bullock on December 27, 2016, 06:32:16 pm
 :( :( :(
This isn't gonna be good for Episode VIII, at any rate. Leia is the last character I'd want to see a bridge dropped on, but I don't see anyone else in that role, either...

I recall there's an article that said she'd finished filming her role for EP 8, it'll be EP 9 that might have problems.

They might go with the Sarah Jane route, she's alive somewhere, just not the focus anymore.
Everything will hinge on what is actually her role in ep VIII, that will ultimately determine how she will be written out in epIX.
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Post by: MP-Ryan on December 27, 2016, 08:25:34 pm
I am going to find a way to ****ing murder a calendar year, so help me God.

I'll help.
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Post by: JGZinv on December 28, 2016, 10:51:55 am
I vote for shoving it down a black hole so it'll be compacted, never to return.

Show all other years that are thinking about it who's boss.


The sad thing I see, is that Harrison has wanted out of SW since ESB, I've never seen Carrie really complain about reprising her role.
Then we lose R2, then Leia out of the original cast. 
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Post by: Mongoose on December 28, 2016, 08:18:25 pm
And now her mother Debbie Reynolds is gone.  ****ing dammit.
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Post by: Black Wolf on December 28, 2016, 08:39:35 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lZ97s396kb0

Saw this on Twitter, it's everything great about Carrie Fisher - at least, her public persona.
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Post by: Dragon on December 28, 2016, 08:53:09 pm
I recall there's an article that said she'd finished filming her role for EP 8, it'll be EP 9 that might have problems.
Fortunately they still got some time to rewrite the scenario (don't think any serious filming on EP9 has already started), so hopefully they'll find a way to work around that (though a suitable sendoff is probably too much to ask for). One thing's for sure, it'll never be as good as it would have been with her around.
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on December 29, 2016, 12:00:58 am
It'll likely be a "Damn!  She was aboard that ship that just got blow up."
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Post by: Mongoose on December 29, 2016, 02:30:41 am
I sincerely doubt they'd do anything that distasteful.  The far more likely option is to simply have Leia pass away between the films, and then acknowledge that fact on-screen.
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Post by: Grizzly on December 29, 2016, 06:36:33 am
Open the film with her funeral.
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Post by: Bryan See on December 29, 2016, 09:43:48 am
Can we at least name a ship after her? A destroyer, a cruiser, a corvette, a frigate, a battleship, a carrier, a frigate or a transport? Maybe we can see a lot of action against both Trump and Putin.
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Post by: The E on December 29, 2016, 10:21:53 am
Can we at least name a ship after her? A destroyer, a cruiser, a corvette, a frigate, a battleship, a carrier, a frigate or a transport? Maybe we can see a lot of action against both Trump and Putin.

Bryan, Trump and Putin are not relevant to every single topic on this site, especially not threads about the death of a beloved actress. Learn how context works, please.

Seriously, this is the last warning for you. Any subsequent post of yours that brings up Trump or Putin in a context not related to either will be deleted.
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Post by: Dragon on December 30, 2016, 08:03:20 pm
Open the film with her funeral.
That sounds like it'd be a good idea. Describing the undoubtedly impressive and dramatic sacrifice that led to it can be left to be fully described in the a novelization. She deserves nothing less than that, especially after how Han went down.
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Post by: Grizzly on December 31, 2016, 05:59:59 am
As much as this might sound weird, I feel like the brave sacrifice is an over-used trope in science fiction. Why not let her die of natural causes? It only means she goes out in the same way as Yoda and Laura Roslin. That's not a bad place to be.
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Post by: Luis Dias on December 31, 2016, 07:15:16 am
I agree with Joshua.

Make some character mention "something about moonlight and a ... bra?"
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on December 31, 2016, 07:36:42 am
Making it into some giant space battle would be tacky as **** tbqh
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Post by: Dragon on January 02, 2017, 08:46:56 am
As much as this might sound weird, I feel like the brave sacrifice is an over-used trope in science fiction.
That's OK, SW thrives on old, overused tropes. :) We know it's cliché, most of OT is at this point (albeit mostly due to everyone ripping off/parodying/referencing it). In fact, heroic sacrifice is one of the oldest tropes known to man. Doesn't change the fact that done right, it can be as effective as it was in ancient times.

Death of natural causes wouldn't do it, if only because she wasn't that old. Remember, Luke is her twin brother and still in good health. Humans in SW universe can probably live over well 100 if nothing happens to them. In TFA both Luke and Leia were about 50 at most. Yoda eventually died of old age, but he was ancient even at the time of Episode 1 (not to mention living on a planet with no technology to speak of).
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Post by: FrikgFeek on January 02, 2017, 08:52:26 am
OT was cliche by design. It's not cliche because everyone copied it, it's cliche because it copied everything else.
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Post by: zookeeper on January 02, 2017, 09:13:18 am
Speculation about what to do with Leia seems pretty pointless unless one knows VIII and roughly what's supposed to happen in IX. I mean, that's what it depends on. Maybe she simply dies in VIII already, or maybe she's integral enough to IX that it's better to use CGI or a Fisher lookalike than to write her out between the films. Who knows. They should just do whatever the story demands, if it's achievable.
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Post by: The E on January 02, 2017, 09:21:10 am
As I understand it, Fisher had completed filming Episode 8. I'm going to assume that they'll add her death to Ep 8 and deal with its ramifications in 9.
Title: Re: Carrie Fisher passes away, drowned in moonlight, strangled by her own bra.
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 07, 2017, 04:50:19 am
Carrie Fisher's ashes carried in Prozac-shaped urn - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38541220)

Charming, to the last...


As far as the continuation of Star Wars goes, well, Episode 8 is in post-production with all filming done, but of course Episode 9 is probably still in pre-production, and clearly they now have the unenviable task of making a decision on whether the role can be re-cast, produced digitally, or written out in a respectable way (depending on what the conclusion of Episode 8 is).

Presuming Leia is still alive at the end of Episode 8, then it might actually be best to orchestrate the character's death either between the films or right at the beginning, played with either a real actor or a body double with digital alterations, and have that serve as a motivating factor for the rest of the characters.

Or, you know, it wouldn't be completely out of place to have her appear in the beginning of the film, only to die from completely mundane causes. Like a heart attack when out of reach of medical assistance. It's not that far-fetched, after all.

Even that could be used to tie in some kind of Force-powered farewell between Luke and Leia, or something.


Mostly, though, I don't really care what they decide to do as long as they make right by her memory and come up with a respectful solution (both for the actor and the film series).


Though I have a feeling Carrie Fisher herself actually might have appreciated something silly like "Princess Leia died on her way back to her home planet" or something similarly amusing, but it just doesn't quite fit with the rest of Star Wars franchise...
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Post by: Trivial Psychic on January 07, 2017, 07:34:16 am
Use original Trilogy footage to generate a force-ghost for her at some point.
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Post by: Dragon on January 07, 2017, 05:44:21 pm
Though I have a feeling Carrie Fisher herself actually might have appreciated something silly like "Princess Leia died on her way back to her home planet" or something similarly amusing, but it just doesn't quite fit with the rest of Star Wars franchise...
That one would be kind of hard, what with it being blown to pieces in the very first movie of the franchise. Though I guess she'd have liked something of that sort.

She was signed up for Episode 9, so I presume she did survive Episode 8. Of course, she could've been signed up to appear in flashbacks or as a Force ghost, but I don't think they planned to kill her off just yet. I guess we have to wait and see. I really hope they don't bungle it or "drop a bridge" on her.