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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on August 11, 2002, 06:00:07 pm
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From what i've heard all we know is that Setekh's mother got really sick and family matters come first, so of course we can understand his not being around HLP as much, but still... he's probably under a lot of stress, and i'm sure he misses interacting with the community he's created and established.
I propose that each of us (using whatever program we're used to, be it Photoshop, Ulead, Paint Shop, or even something simple, like Paint, if we're not good with graphics) make let's say a 600x400 pixels 'card' and put on that whatever the heck we want... we could put a picture of ourselves, and write a message to him saying we miss him and we hope his mom's getting better... or we could even tell him about some of the stuff we and the community as a whole has been involved in... perhaps post your latest render as a background and write a message on top
regardless, i think it would be a good idea, and if everyone on HLP forums or anyone that knows him could each send their own 600x400 file with their stuff on it we could zip all of them together and call it by their first name, or even have a 'slideshow' using javascript or flash or whatever, so he can read through them.
A pretty good quality 600x400 JPEG can be about 30 KB, so a ton of them doesn't have to be that big, especially when "winzipped" :D
we could perhaps do a slide show in Flash or Javascript or something, then upload it or even burn it on a CD for him so he can view them at his convenience with no loading times.
It's just an idea, but i'm sure he's missing his community, and it must be very stressful, and i'm sure this will cheer him up and makle him feel better.
So how about it?
:D
~Stealth~
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Is he ever coming back, BTW?
And, yes, I agree, but, unfortunately, I don't know how to render? What about people like me?
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I agree, this is definitely something Setekh would go for.
As for myself, I don't have any Photoshop or any other type of visual program on my comp, but if CP5670 is willing, he can sign for me and contribute to this picture.
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Nice, nice.
From what we know, though, he's pretty fine - even taking up responsibility as something I can't remember the name of at his school. Ask Icespeed if you want to know about him, she goes to the same school as he.
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His mom's ok, last I heard.
Now, if he'd answer his damn email. :p
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Yeah, we all wish he comes back soon...we miss him :)
Setekh Last Seen: 5/30/02' 7:53am
I was looking around at Message Tracking, and some of Setekh's PM's said last online then. So remember the rumors of seeing him around for a few min a few months ago? He was viewing.
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Gotta love Steaky, great idea
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Originally posted by Shrike
Now, if he'd answer his damn email. :p
Hmm, we still gotta fire up that part of The Plan™... :drevil: :D
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*has idea*
*runs off to work on it*
*runs back, tackles Thunder, runs away again*
Yah, I got no clue why, so don't ask
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
[B*runs back, tackles Thunder, runs away again*[/B]
:wtf:...im guessing ditto for thunder...
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I'm certainly confused :)
Anyhow, the last I heard of Setekh he was doing really well in school, he's part of an elite 10 head-boy type people out of hundreds or something like that which shows he has to be good at something other than renders after all ;)
Suffice to say, I think he's (like me) spending more and more time on real life matters - hence no checking of email or anything. Contacting him may be tricky and if you were thinking of emailing him these cards of yours then I'd be careful - you don't want to flood his mailbox and shut it down accidentally!
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*Subtly receives Thunder's wallet from Blue Lion and tosses it to Stealth while its owner's back is turned*
Well, what are we all waiting for? I've already got my card written-*glances at sig*-how 'bout you? ;)
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I like the idea, but indeed he must read his e-mail to see what we made for him. And i sugest if it's bigger then 1mb you should split it in 2...He hasn't have a very fast conection as far as i know:)
But the idea is good:)
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If it comes to that and you guys actually go ahead with this then assuming he reads his email and assuming he still can - you can upload the whole shabang to a folder on HLP then send him the links.
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Please don't email stuff to [email protected] expecting it to get to him..... it all gets forwarded to me.
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Originally posted by Shrike
Please don't email stuff to [email protected] expecting it to get to him..... it all gets forwarded to me.
*bombs email adress*
;7
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Originally posted by Tiara
*bombs email adress*
;7
*bans Tiara*
;7 ;7
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Originally posted by Shrike
*bans Tiara*
;7 ;7
Edited cause its not a spam thread... *cough*
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Look ma! Newbies! :doubt:
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Kids...*shrugs*:D
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hi guys.
well, of _course_ he's got a Real Life, he's not going to dote on his mum every minute of every day, he's still a student, the government people would get on him if he didn't turn up at school. And if he's going to school he might as well help out as a prefect.
As for the rest, I could _make_ him check his email. He'd love the cards. What if you guys stagger the cards, to, say, i dunno, a set number every week so that he can save them somewhere and not get his email locked?
That's, of course, if he listens to me and actually checks the thing.
He's got his hands on a digital camera recently, by the way. Armed with that, he's been taking photos of anything that will stay still long enough. And quite a few things that don't, too. He's dangerous, I say. Some of them are quite funny. People at our school get up to the weirdest things.
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Good to hear from you ;) I think we should rename you the relay station since we always hear about Steak from you these days... heh, and that's no bad thing! It's good to hear he's ok, lucky git him having a digital camera... what fun I could have with one of them!
I still think it might be better to have an archive made on either an HLP gallery or The Array for Setekhs cards, that way he could keep them whenever he liked and we wouldn't have to worry about repercussions on his mailbox system (they'd also be visible for everyone to see which would be nice - the more art the better ;)).
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Setekh gets a nod in the BWO demo. Look for it :D
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Originally posted by TheVirtu
Yeah, we all wish he comes back soon...we miss him :)
Setekh Last Seen: 5/30/02' 7:53am
I was looking around at Message Tracking, and some of Setekh's PM's said last online then. So remember the rumors of seeing him around for a few min a few months ago? He was viewing.
It was me who saw him online. :p
Then I posted about it to Setekh's "leaving" thread and the result was to get it locked. :D:p
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Man, I wish I could send something useful :(, like a render or something. Just tell him I said hi, then :D
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Originally posted by Unkown Target
Man, I wish I could send something useful :(, like a render or something. Just tell him I said hi, then :D
Just add him to your HLP movie script: Steaky-wan Come-back-ee, returning from the Existance Beyond The Boards, and Our Only Hope™... :D
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Yeah that would be a nice touch.
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Originally posted by darkage
I like the idea, but indeed he must read his e-mail to see what we made for him. And i sugest if it's bigger then 1mb you should split it in 2...He hasn't have a very fast conection as far as i know:)
But the idea is good:)
i wasn't intending to send him each individual card, cause getting 40 emails a day would be annoying.
We could zip them up in Winzip and upload to somewhere on HLP (FTP)
or my idea... you could mail them to me or something... i could burn them on a CD, and we could send it to him
EDIT: Guys, you don't need to know how to render to send him a card! Just make the card (resolution unknown yet) with even just a note or something! you can do it even in Microsoft Paint. it's really easy!
Either we:
1) Send to one person and then burn the CDs on a disk and send it to him via IceSpeed.
2) Upload all the cards to a private FTP account where only he can view them (individually or in sequence)
3) Upload all the cards to a public FTP account where anyone can view them (individually or in sequence)
I'm sure his mom is doing better, but he's still not back, and i'm s ur he's missing all of us. So why don't we do this... it won't take long, and it will really make him feel better and 'raise his spirits' :)
So is this the go-ahead? everyone want to go ahead with this?
If they do, then I'll open an account and everyone can email (or post) their 'cards' to me, and I'll put them together, name them correctly, and (depending on what method (see numbers 1-3 above) we choose) we can get them to him in some way! It'll be easy and it'll really give him something to be happy about and to feel excited. It won't take much of any of our time, and think of how it'll make him feel!
If we do, we can make a 600x400 pixels JPEG image. Does that sound about good? Depending on the quality, each one is 20-30 KB (i think) so 100 of them will only be 3 MB!!! :D
Before posting them... what does everyone think? go ahead with it?
How about all the moderators in the forum? Maeglamor? Shrike? Styxx? How about you Thunder? what do you all think?
~Stealth~
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Originally posted by icespeed
As for the rest, I could _make_ him check his email. He'd love the cards. What if you guys stagger the cards, to, say, i dunno, a set number every week so that he can save them somewhere and not get his email locked?
That's, of course, if he listens to me and actually checks the thing.
nice to hear from you
I didn't intend to send each card individually. not only would that take up a lot of his account space, but he'd be probable to miss some of them, and also it'd be better to zip them and archive them or something for future.
see the previous post from me
EDIT:
For more information, (please don't send cards YET) post here or send emails to:
[email protected]
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Originally posted by Thunder
heh, and that's no bad thing! It's good to hear he's ok, lucky git him having a digital camera... what fun I could have with one of them!
Try - http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&id=690
I may buy one of these if it gets to the high street - don;t really trust my Switch or Visa cards justnow.
I think the cards thing is a good idea... not sure what the hell I'd put on one, though.
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Some test i just carried out... All are the same picture, in different formats:
JPEG: 20.0 KB
GIF: 102.0 KB
JPEG MOV: 21.5 KB
GIF MOV: 93.7 KB
JPEG AVI (small): 139.0 KB
JPEG AVI (normal): 473.0 KB
GIF AVI (small): 137.0 KB
GIF AVI (normal): 473.0 KB
JPEG SWF: 20.1 KB
GIF SWF: 92.2 KB
Flash seems to compress pictures when exporting as SWF files, not as much with JPEGs (filesize actually increased by 10 bytes) but in GIFs it compressed almost 10 KB! (9.8).
GIFs quality aren't as good as JPEGs, so if we do this, I recommend 600x400 pixel JPEGs...
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Wow, this is such a fantastic and touching idea. Steak would love it. I think we should all email them to someone when we individually finish them (have a deadline,) make them into a slideshow, and upload it to HLP servers along with a ZIP that has all the cards in it. Thus he gets a nice slideshow with all the cards, and he can access them all individually.
Can't do renders? Take screenshots, or write a poem or something on a textured background. Make something in Paint, pick up some pics from the net, whatever.
I'm assuming this is only open to those forumites who actually knew Setekh? Just wondering if all the newbies were going to write stuff too.
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I think it's better for the people who know Setekh. The newbies don;t know whats it all about. wel they only kow what Stealth said in his post about his mom being sick, But thats it.
Thats my opinion.
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i agree 100% with you darkage. This should be only for people who know Setekh.
I mean, there's no way we can TELL people that they don't know him, but we can at least say that's it's only for people that know him. I'm sure no one (not even a stupid newbie) would pretend to know Setekh, and if they did, Setekh would know they're a newbie pretending to know him, and that would be uber-pointless.
So GalacticEmperor, you think everyone should email the cards to someone (me) and then that someone (me again, or someone else) can put them all together and archive/arrange them? That's what i thought too. Also, you don't have to be able to render, you don't even have to decorate your 'card' if you don't want to, if you want to just write something on it, then that's cool, and he'll appreciate it just the same!
If we upload them on the HLP servers as a ZIP, then he won't be able to access them individually, he'll have to download the entire ZIP file, and THEN open them individually. Only other alternative is to either not upload them at all, or just upload them as plain JPEGs, not zipped in any way.
You see, their (HLP)'s server, 3D action planet, i don't know what they're running, probably Apache, but they've disabled a viewer to view the ocntents of a folder (probably for security reasons... what i mean, is some places, you can go to http://www.whatever.com/pictures/ and they have a directory listing of the pictures)... HLP's server doesn't allow that, so i'll upload it to my server: we've allowed that, and it'll be a much faster download speed (although our connection is nothing compared to Gamespy, 3DAP, etc. we have hardly anyone using it, so therefore it's most times faster)
I mean, don't worry about that, we'll find a way... i'm just waiting for authorization from Thunder, Shrike, Maeglamor, and/or Styxx or any other admin. I don't really have to ask permission i guess, but they've known Setekh (particulary Thunder) more than any of us here probably (most of us anyway) and they're admins, so they tell us what to do if it's a community effort, as in this one.
Admins? Want to go ahead with this?
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Originally posted by sandwich
Just add him to your HLP movie script: Steaky-wan Come-back-ee, returning from the Existance Beyond The Boards, and Our Only Hope™... :D
I was actually thinking of doing this, but I thought it still might be a spot for the community that people don't want to be reminded of. So, I went a different route, and decided not to risk upsetting anyone.
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I agree what ya Stealth.
We can ofcourse zip all the cards and mail Setekh the link.
And then het IceSpeed to get Setekh download the files.
But there are many otherway's.
And whit out the people that don;t know setekh you also can avoid that people wil say the wrong things etc and cut back on pointless spam.
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what i thought of doing is (if possible) everyone make an 800x600 or 1024x768 card (full screen!!!) and i could make a full-screen slide-show... and i could burn that slide show and all individual pictures on a disk, mail it to icespeed, and she could give it to Setekh... you know?
or we could just give him the link :) i'm sure he'd look at it... he wouldn't need people to tell him to or make him, i don't think ;)
still awaiting admin's approval :D :nod:
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Originally posted by Unkown Target
I am wind. I am water. I am power
you're not making fun of my signiture, are you? :D lol :p
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Erm....uhhh...IT'S THE BATTLE OF THE ELEMENTS! BWAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!:D
Lol, actually, sort of. I got my insipiration from you ;)
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it's cool :)
NOW BACK ON TOPIC! :D
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,7243.0.html
just for information
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c'mon people! reply! especially moderators... do i have the 'go ahead'?
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Originally posted by Stealth
c'mon people! reply! especially moderators... do i have the 'go ahead'?
*shrugs*
If he doesn't answer his email soon, I'm going to CAM Australia to get his attention, but otherwise I have no real opinion on the matter.
I'd prefer to do my own thing.
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Agreed, it's a nice gesture but we shouldn't have to conform to a guideline (although some things like making images in JPEG format just make sense) if that's what we want to do...
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I think the two of us know him well enough that we could get away with being rebels. ;)
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I like this idea :). But, if you do end up deciding to mail it to him on a disc, Me or Icespeed or Pegasus V should probably do it as it's cheaper to send mail from inside Australia (and less likely to get lost :) ) I have a burner and stuff, so there's no worries there. Also, if you haven't already told him Icespeed, maybe you shouldn't. I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but I sure as hell prefer to get unannounced presents than something I've had to wait weeks and weeks for...
BTW, does anyone know if he follows AFL, and if so, which team? If it's Sydney, then I'm starting to get an idea as to what to send... :D.
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Originally posted by Shrike
I think the two of us know him well enough that we could get away with being rebels. ;)
Make that the three of us. :D
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Originally posted by sandwich
Make that the three of us. :D
Do I count too? :nervous:
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Originally posted by Styxx
Do I count too? :nervous:
Ok, four of us then. :D
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i personally think that just because you "know Setekh" is no reason why you should be better than everyone else and not participate in this, but that's just my opinion.
Agreed, it's a nice gesture but we shouldn't have to conform to a guideline (although some things like making images in JPEG format just make sense) if that's what we want to do...
i'd have to disagree with you there too... if everyone sends in their own thing, we'll have who-knows-what! we'll have people sending home-videos of themselves saying "hi" in! If this is going to be zipped together and sent to him or whatever, then we've got to stick to the same standards with everyone. Just because you're a retired admin or you're an admin shouldn't mean you get to send something different in i don't think!
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Originally posted by Stealth
i personally think that just because you "know Setekh" is no reason why you should be better than everyone else and not participate in this, but that's just my opinion.
i'd have to disagree with you there too... if everyone sends in their own thing, we'll have who-knows-what! we'll have people sending home-videos of themselves saying "hi" in! If this is going to be zipped together and sent to him or whatever, then we've got to stick to the same standards with everyone. Just because you're a retired admin or you're an admin shouldn't mean you get to send something different in i don't think!
Heh - don't worry, I'm planning on sending my contribution along with the rest of you. :nod: I was meaning that there were more than two people who Setekh well - there's no way I'm missing out on sending my 2 pence along with everyone. :)
About limiting, I'd recommend a size limit, since that's basically the only concern on Setekh's side (unless we end up mailing him a CD, of course). If he ends up needing to download whatever it all is, I'd highly recommend keeping it to ~100 kb per person or so.
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ok sandwich, i was getting worried that you weren't going to participate :)
I don't know what we'll do. Depends on the size... if people want to get creative (i recommend it :) ) then the size may be too much for him, and we may have to end up mailing a CD... which is no problem, cause although i don't know where he lives, i'm sure there's at least one other forum member who lives close to him (in the same country at least)...
Someone said he lives in Australia? i'm not positive, but i remember someone in this thread saying that. If he does, there's a lot of people here from Australia. Black Wolf is one of them. If he lives in North/South america i'll mail it, but if i have to then i'll mail it anywhere in the world. I don't mind spending a couple more $$$ to make him happy. The only concern is international shipping isn't as 'secure' as national shipping... and there's a chance he wouldnt' receive it
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Originally posted by Stealth
...which is no problem, cause although i don't know where he lives, i'm sure there's at least one other forum member who lives close to him (in the same country at least)...
Someone said he lives in Australia? i'm not positive, but i remember someone in this thread saying that. If he does, there's a lot of people here from Australia. Black Wolf is one of them....
You weren't around much before he left, I gather?
*looks at joined date*
That's what I thought. :p
Setekh does live in Australia - Sydney, IIRC. And no need to go hunting for someone who lives semi-close, icespeed is a RL™ friend of his. :D I'm sure she'll love to collaborate with anything we do for Setekh. :nod:
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Originally posted by Stealth
i personally think that just because you "know Setekh" is no reason why you should be better than everyone else and not participate in this, but that's just my opinion.
If I was going to do something for him, I'd much prefer to do something of my own. It's a nice idea and all, but it's not for me. I've sent him a couple emails, I'm waiting until he gets back to me. Until he does get back, I'm not worrying about what he's up to.... from what I hear, he's doing well and I trust he can take care of himself.
I'd like hear from him, and it'd be a shame if I didn't, but if I don't, well, life goes on, there's not much I can do.
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i've known Setekh from the VBB, and also from when he's helped me with renders and stuff, and hosting.
Shrike, i know he's got a 'real life', and we're doing this just to say that we miss him and hope he comes back! I don't think we're interfering with his 'real life' in any way! i just think it'll be a nice gesture! i would've thought you'd take part in it, since you know him and all, but *shrugs* oh well
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Why do you think I sent him emails? My latest one basically said 'get your lazy butt online sometime' :D
Same thing, I'm just a little more.....direct. ;)
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Originally posted by Shrike
Why do you think I sent him emails? My latest one basically said 'get your lazy butt online sometime' :D
Same thing, I'm just a little more.....direct. ;)
that seems like a good strategy ;)
is it working? :D lol :nod:
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im sorry i ain't been round for a while but as it is im about to get banned from the internet by my parents, so i have to limit myself.
anyway, now that i've caught up on all this...
cd sounds good. but i don't understand why you don't just mail it straight to him direct? of course, if you want me to burn the cards on to cd someone will have to tell me how cos im basically computer inept except for all this netsurfing and wordprocessing.
whoever asked if i told him about it, don't be an idiot. as if id do that.
whoever asked if he follows AFL, he doesn't. Not particularly closely. nor any other sport, i belive. not closely.
SYDNEY!! AUSTRALIA!! for the last time.
about knowing setekh: well, if you don't know him, and he doesn't know you, there's no point you sending him a card, is there?
i think that's about it.
love always God bless you guys all
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oh, and i think he goes and checks his email about once a week. ill ask him if hes getting your emails, shrike.
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there is no way we'd send it to him. a burned CD is the best way, and we could mail it to icespeed or directly to him.
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Originally posted by icespeed
oh, and i think he goes and checks his email about once a week. ill ask him if hes getting your emails, shrike.
Reciepts are 1337.
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any more cards?
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Stealth, email me the content of what u want "as a card" i'll draw something up. as setekh was the only one who was willing to help me a long long time ago with hosting help when no one else would listen, (fantoyeme is MIA....), he motivated me to get my web design skills and art skills in exceptional porportions. sadly hes gone, and i never got hosted (fantoyeme MIA........) but its ok. i just hope his family is alright and his moms is alot better...
setekh->:thepimp: <-setekh
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see one of the first threads of this forum (it's stickied)... the first post
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~*bump*~
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Here's what I suggest we do. Once all the cards are done, upload them as a single file (zip or something) to HLP (or where ever, as long as I can get them). I'll download them, burn them and then send them off. Icespeed can email or PM either her or Setekhs address (if either of you have a post box, that's probably be preferable, just for security. I trust me, but you don't know me, so you really don't have any reason to.) Then nobody get's slugged for international shipping, icespeed doesn't have to learn computer stuff, and Setekh gets his cards. What do you think?