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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: AqueousShadow on August 20, 2002, 01:48:46 pm

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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 20, 2002, 01:48:46 pm
OK...seeing that I still can't get the hang of texturing. I mean, I can't stick anything on a ship correctly, I don't know how to do the "heirarchy," and I can't do anything else to get a ship into FS, I'm about ready to give up :sigh: I can still model, sure, but I can't do anything else, which renders the models useless, colorless pieces of junk. I think I'll stick with FREDding, something I can do moderately well, unless someone can help me :o. If anyone wants my DXF of my Battlecruiser, just PM me or post here. You can do whatever you want with it, but atleast give me a bit of credit for actually making the model. :blah:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 20, 2002, 03:20:06 pm
What modelling package do you use?
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 20, 2002, 03:30:25 pm
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
What modelling package do you use?


Well...if what you mean is the programs I use, I use Blender and Truespace 6. Since, I haven't got farther than that, I haven't gotten to using the other programs necessary :blah:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 20, 2002, 03:36:35 pm
Ooh! You've got one version of TS better than me! :D:D

But the hierarchy in TS is so easy to do. :)

The easiest way is to do it is to initially follow Rampage's post-modding manual. :)
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 20, 2002, 03:42:11 pm
But, alas, all the tutorials out there are designed for the older versions of TS. Even though it's a newer version, it doesn't make it much easier to use. It just has a lot more confusing buttons :rolleyes:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 20, 2002, 03:45:48 pm
Well, I managed to follow that tutorial with TS5...
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Post by: karajorma on August 20, 2002, 04:30:54 pm
Does TS6 come with trueview? If so you don`t need to worry about all the confusing heirarchy stuff. Just drag and drop the turrets lods etc into place in the trueview window.
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 20, 2002, 06:36:17 pm
Not just about heirarchy, I still can't even UV map the ship :sigh:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 21, 2002, 03:32:00 am
It's easy to UV map - just select 'cubic UV' from the buttons at the bottom. As for texturing - you're on your own I'm afraid, I can't texture, but I can model. :)
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Post by: Ryx on August 21, 2002, 12:17:34 pm
AS, don't feel bad about not being able to texture. I'm practically in the same situation. Personally I'm at the point where I have UV maps and is ready to draw the map. Only I suck rather badly at anything 2d (3D?), but I try...

If the model is good enough, someone will find a home for it and somebody to finish it. :)

It's a community thing. :)
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 21, 2002, 12:47:44 pm
Well, I guess texture has come upon different definitions, and it seems I've been using the wrong one :nervous: I can't even get a single texture map onto a side of my ship correctly. The model is still up for grabs if anyone wants it :blah:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 21, 2002, 03:35:19 pm
*Buries face in hands*

You mean you can't even get a texture of any description onto the ship?
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 21, 2002, 03:57:22 pm
Yes, that's how utterly pathetic it is, but alas, I can't do jack :wtf:
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 21, 2002, 04:02:12 pm
There should be a 'paint' button at the bottom. (You may need to press and hold to select the right part) and it's fairly easy to get used to.:)
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Post by: Vasudan Admiral on August 22, 2002, 01:29:27 am
i don't know bout newer truspace versions, but in 5 you can click the trash bin in the bottom left corner and a huge slab of buttons will appear. every button ts has as far as i can tell. then you have a tiny description of what it does/it's name in a dialogue box (which for me is on the bottom)
from that you should be able to find the material editor.

get your .bmp textures into the truespace texture folder with explorer and then add all of them to the texture library by opening the the library and selecting the very first default texture (for me it was a "caligari" texture) and click on the preview in the "colour" extention window from material editor.
a new window opens with previews of all the textures in the texture folder. right click any texture and click "add all to library". this will add all the textures found in that folder to the library. you can then use them by opening the library and selecting one.

to set a uv map for a model, look for a button that has a blue and white checked pattern on some type of object (a cube for cubic mapping) it in the slab of buttons. click it and you will then be able to apply textures.

hope this helps, but in my opinion, the best learning method is fiddling untill it works. :)
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 22, 2002, 03:47:14 am
Fiddling around? How the hell do you think half of us learnt trueSpace, or indeed modding? :D:D
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Post by: Vasudan Admiral on August 22, 2002, 04:13:38 am
well, that's true. :D
someone (experienced) should really make an updated tute for freespace watch. that's what put me onto modding, i think a lot of other people will have the same tale. :)
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 22, 2002, 03:05:02 pm
Or even better, someone should make a trueSpace based fighter creation tutorial, complete with how to UV map WITHOUT something like lithunwrap.:)
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 22, 2002, 06:21:15 pm
AND, not only a Fighter tutorial, but a larger ship tutorial, that is complete with instructions on turrets, heirarchy, converting, and tabling. :D
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 23, 2002, 03:24:38 am
Somebody get Bobboau or Dark in here!;7
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Post by: Raven2001 on August 23, 2002, 08:50:41 am
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Originally posted by Ryx
If the model is good enough, someone will find a home for it and somebody to finish it. :)

It's a community thing. :)


And that someone is ME!!!! Well, when I get my Truespace copy... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Anaz on August 23, 2002, 09:35:42 am
my TS uvmapping is all screwed up. I make a map in lith, and I load it into TS, and its not aligned at all...wah...
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Post by: AqueousShadow on August 23, 2002, 02:07:40 pm
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Originally posted by Raven2001


And that someone is ME!!!! Well, when I get my Truespace copy... :rolleyes:


Does that mean you'll take my Battlecruiser and make it into a full-fledged ship? That is, after you get your TS copy...;)
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Post by: Killfrenzy on August 23, 2002, 03:11:14 pm
Ooh! Who else saw that coming a mile off? :D:D
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Post by: Raven2001 on August 24, 2002, 10:14:19 am
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Does that mean you'll take my Battlecruiser and make it into a full-fledged ship? That is, after you get your TS copy...;)


Why not??? It will take some time until I get TS (damn "friends" that say they get me everything and then I wait a century for it...), but sure why not?? :)

But I must warn you, I can only UV map, specially capships (I still have to practice a lot on fighters...), I can't make textures... yet... ;)