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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Su-tehp on February 02, 2020, 12:46:05 am
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Ok, after looking at the SG Rahu (I'm not going to call it the SSG Rahu because of the name inconsistency which was already discussed long ago) in the Database, I have to ask: Is the red rotating cylinder of the Rahu the fore or the aft of the ship? Judging by switching quickly between the Moloch and the Rahu in the database view, the aft section of the Moloch corresponds to the red rotating cylinder of the Rahu. That doesn't make sense to me if the Rahu is a gas miner that is supposed to function as a ram-scoop like the GTG Zephyrus or the GVG Anuket. The scoops are on the fore of both the Zephyrus and the Anuket, but on the aft of the Rahu. So how do Rahus scoop up deuterium of their scoops are in the rear of the ship? Are the Shivans so inscrutable they can reverse polarity on the laws of physics and make their gas miners into reverse vacuum cleaners or something? :eek2: :wtf: :nervous:
But if that cylinder really is the engine of the Rahu, then what part of the front of the Rahu scoops up the gas? I don't see any sort of aperture in what is supposedly the fore of the ship. And with that red fatass of a ship's stern, the Rahu really does look like some sort of demonic glowbug. I can't unsee that no matter how hard I try. :ick:
Or did :v: just goof on the database and the Rahu is only reversed/aft-forward in the database view? :rolleyes:
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Hoover in the front, storage in the back, propulsion in the [REDACTED]
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Front end has three intakes to collect the gas presumably, then transferring it to the large cylinder (the back).
Ok, after looking at the SG Rahu (I'm not going to call it the SSG Rahu because of the name inconsistency which was already discussed long ago)
I'm stealing this (if that's cool) :p. That being said, maybe the rotating cylinder is a secret Shivan Mjolnir-like turret...
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The Rahu looks like a very well fed Shivan tick.
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My personal guess is that the Rahu was meant as some Mjolnir equivalent at first with the rear section being a beam turret, then got inverted and ended up as gasminer for a single mission; just that :v-old: forgot to turn SSG to SG.
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The Rahu looks like a very well fed Shivan tick.
See? Shivan ships have a (very deserved) reputation for looking insectoid, but the Rahu not only looks like a tick, it looks like a glowing tick. :wtf: :nervous:
My personal guess is that the Rahu was meant as some Mjolnir equivalent at first with the rear section being a beam turret, then got inverted and ended up as gasminer for a single mission; just that :v-old: forgot to turn SSG to SG.
Knowing :v:, this is eminently possible.
Shivans with Remote Beam Cannons, now there's a scary thought...has anyone ever made such a mod? Because I think I could use that for DatDB. :drevil:
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Shivans with Remote Beam Cannons, now there's a scary thought...has anyone ever made such a mod? Because I think I could use that for DatDB. :drevil:
I don't believe so. That being said Scrolls has this super-sized Belial-like turret that could reasonably have it's turrets changed to SReds or something like that.
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I *think* somebody did.. but I am not sure... :nervous:
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I *think* somebody did.. but I am not sure... :nervous:
I derped. You are correct. https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/User-made_Ships#Other_.28Cargo_Pods.2C_Sentry_Guns.2C_Etc.29
Annihilator and Somnath are RBC's. Erebos is the one used in Scrolls. Chakra is a shield generator.
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Ah OK, thought it was Scroll because there's some Rahu model hanging around in the modfiles. Besides that, I've never played that part of Scroll :warp:
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The Annihilator is a Remote Beam Cannon? Then why is it armed with Plasma cannons? Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't plasma cannon essentially blob turrets? (Keep in mind that I'm admittedly talking out of my ass here because I have no idea what plasma cannons are or what they look like.) :nervous:
I ask the same question concerning the Somnath as well because according to its Wiki entry, it's armed with an "STurret [that] is a toned down sred beam cannon." Aren't SReds just antifighter beams? The only thing I know about SReds is that two of them is what is put in place of the FS2 version/mod of the SD Lucifer's scripted Flux Cannons from FS1 and that there was some controversy over placing something so weak in place of the Lucifer's main weapons. (As before, talking, ass, no idea, etc.) :warp:
The concept of the SSP Chakra is...interesting. :drevil:
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The version of the Anihilator I have has 4 beams which are probably less powerful than SReds. SReds are Cains/Rakshasas and Molochs main gun(s).
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The version of the Anihilator I have has 4 beams which are probably less powerful than SReds. SReds are Cains/Rakshasas and Molochs main gun(s).
And judging from my replay today of Proving Grounds (https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/Proving_Grounds), SReds can be a threat to capital ships since that Moloch threatened the GTD Aquitaine. Ok, the SRed as an RBC doesn't seem so farfetched now. Four of them on the Annihilator (especially if they have overlapping fields of fire) is nothing to take lightly. :shaking:
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Nah the SRed is terrible. The Rakshasa has 3 and it's not a massive threat to destroyers (which you'd hope an RBC would be, the Mjolnir sure is.)
e: it's not the worst cruiser weapon but it's definitely not Mjolnir caliber, even with 4.
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Annihilator beams do 4180 damage per pulse, so *4 is 16720 per round (fire wait: 7 sec). So it's pretty much.
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What the **** is an Annihilator and what does it have to do with the Sred
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The Sred has a sustained DPS of 167. Four of them sustain about 700.
A single Mjolnir beam sustains either ~1200 or ~2400 depending on which version you use.
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https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/SSG_Annihilator
Somebody probably thought "Hmmmm... the Mjolnir is pretty much OP... but the Shivan variant has to be more powerful, **** sanity"
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Right but I’m talking about the Sred.
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Sry I missed the 3 min time window :p
What the **** is an Annihilator and what does it have to do with the Sred
@Su-tehp: TLDR when you want to make some Shivan SRBC just take one of the Mjolnir beams, color it red and don't use any custom unbalanced stuff. :)
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@Su-tehp: TLDR when you want to make some Shivan SRBC just take one of the Mjolnir beams, color it red and don't use any custom unbalanced stuff. :)
Hmm, a red beam coming out of a turqouise Terran-designed RBC...those two colors just clash with each other. :ick: (Not to mention that red-blue color-blind players won't even be able to see that awesomeness. :( )
Unless you mean take an SSG Annihilator and make sure it's equipped with a red-colored Mjolnir beam. If that's what you meant, then I heartily approve. :yes:
EDIT: I just realized all the custom Shivan sentry gun mods all have multiple cannons, not a single large beam like the Mjolnir. And a reskinned Mjolnir with a Shivan skin would be a cop-out as well as too angular and Terran-looking a design for the Shivans. :nono: :ick:
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Unless you mean take an SSG Annihilator and make sure it's equipped with a red-colored Mjolnir beam. If that's what you meant, then I heartily approve. :yes:
This. Also don't forget to use an LRed sound or something like that. :)
Hehe. I'm still entertaining the idea of a Fenris chasing a Rahu and getting blasted by its engine death beam.
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Hehe. I'm still entertaining the idea of a Fenris chasing a Rahu and getting blasted by its engine death beam.
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "butt blaster (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/Spathi-Butt.wav)."
It is truly a horrifying time when the Shivans are emulating cowards like the Spathi (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/). :eek: :eek2: :eek:
So now the SG Rahu is not just a glowbug, it's a farting glowbug. That farts superheated plasma (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FartsOnFire). On FIRE (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillItWithFire).
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Hehe. I'm still entertaining the idea of a Fenris chasing a Rahu and getting blasted by its engine death beam.
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "butt blaster (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/Spathi-Butt.wav)."
It is truly a horrifying time when the Shivans are emulating cowards like the Spathi (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/). :eek: :eek2: :eek:
So now the SG Rahu is not just a glowbug, it's a farting glowbug. That farts superheated plasma (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FartsOnFire). On FIRE (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillItWithFire).
Heh. Check out the second picture. https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=96249.msg1892677;topicseen#msg1892677
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That Rahu beam looks really fancy. I think there are some cruisers that could work as RBCs as well.
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Shivan specifically? I think the fenrisathan is made for it 👍. Huge WiFi dish for stable control connection like a mavic drone and that cute ineffective fusion mortar*
*may not include fusion mortar
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Hehe. I'm still entertaining the idea of a Fenris chasing a Rahu and getting blasted by its engine death beam.
That brings a whole new meaning to the term "butt blaster (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/Spathi-Butt.wav)."
It is truly a horrifying time when the Shivans are emulating cowards like the Spathi (http://www.sa-matra.net/sounds/starcontrol/). :eek: :eek2: :eek:
So now the SG Rahu is not just a glowbug, it's a farting glowbug. That farts superheated plasma (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FartsOnFire). On FIRE (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillItWithFire).
Heh. Check out the second picture. https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=96249.msg1892677;topicseen#msg1892677
As I said in the other thread, I still can't tell if the Rahu is going forwards or backwards due to thinking that the red glowing engine was originally a ram-scoop. I'm glad my "farting glowbug" routine inspired Colt, though.
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So you're not going to feature the Beamrahu in DatDB?
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So you're not going to feature the Beamrahu in DatDB?
I'm fairly certain I'll need a Shivan RBC, but resorting to a Beamrahu RBC is something that I'll only do under the greatest duress. :P
Remind me, which mission in FS2 features the only canon appearance of the Rahu? (There was only one appearance of it, right?)
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The Fog of War is the only one IIRC.
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The Fog of War is the only one IIRC.
I just watched Renairen's playthrough on Youtube. Now I remember: the first "appearance" of the Sathanas. I put "appearance" in quotes because I remember that the first time I played this mission (lo, these many years ago), I couldn't see crap of the Sathanas because of the nebula. It wasn't until I could see it unobscured that I could truly appreciate how frakkin' BIG the thing was. :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:
And I also saw from Renairen's playthrough of this mission that the Rahu is indeed beyond any possible doubt...a glowbug. Yup, those engine exhaust flames coming out of that big red glowy ass has settled the question for all time. So I guess those small blocky protrusions at the front port and front starboard of the Rahu are where it takes in deuterium to convert to fuel? :confused:
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I tought the rotating part might be some sort of Shivan gas refinery that doesn't rotate like normal gas centrifuges do, but in some stepped was.
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I tought the rotating part might be some sort of Shivan gas refinery that doesn't rotate like normal gas centrifuges do, but in some stepped was.
Wait, so the rotating cylinder is kinda like the rotating barrel of a concrete-mixing dump truck?
I'm just reposting this pic of a Rahu taking a dump (just because I can). :pimp:
(https://imgur.com/kAXZ9tG.png)
I'm never gonna be able to look at the Rahu the same way again. :( :sigh: :(
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Well the Shivans have motherf****** concrete-mixing dump trucks in SPACE :eek:
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Enough is enough! I have had it with these mother****ing Shivans on this mother****ing dump truck IN SPACE! Everybody strap in. I'm about to shoot some ****ing Maxims. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubLRB7tb78Q) NOTE: Youtube link here is NSFW.
(Now all I need is a Samuel L. Jackson emoji.)
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I'd guess the Rahu is cursed for you now :p
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I'd guess the Rahu is cursed for you now :p
Meaning what? That every time I look at the Rahu from now on, I'll see a demonic glowbug which farts red lasers and will forevermore remind me of Samuel L. Jackson?
Eh, there are worse curses. *shrug*