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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: aldo_14 on July 21, 2001, 06:36:00 am
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(2.7 km 19-25 turrets, Orion successor)
I (sort of) have 2 models - one with big-*** F.E.P. Cannons, and one without, and I can't decide which to use....
With (1900 poly)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.white19/ogre1.jpeg)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.white19/ogre2.jpeg)
Without
(NB: Will add additional turrets on top - 2 parters - if i use this design)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.white19/ogre1-ng.jpeg)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.white19/ogre2-ng.jpeg)
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I like without and you could pout some on the botem that way make like a battle ship. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Ive been thinking will i be able to DL this thing when tis dune from your web site?
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[This message has been edited by StarGunner (edited 07-21-2001).]
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Dude! that's a cool ship. I would say without the big guns, but with barrelled turrets instead.
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Without the guns... yeah,much better that way (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
And an engine in the front section would look cool too (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Raven2001:
Without the guns... yeah,much better that way (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
And an engine in the front section would look cool too (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Id like to see some of the 3 bariled turrets off the GTD Orion.
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Awesome design! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) If you ask me, I personally don't like the FEP cannons very much. To engines in underslung pods would be really cool. For another personal opinion, I don't like 3 barreled turrets much... I think it makes the ship look antiquianted. But do please the public (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Ypoknons (edited 07-21-2001).]
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I think it looks better with. Otherwise, theres just empty space there... Both are great A-1 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Definately without, although if you decide you really want the big cannon mounts I can show you a different way of modeling those that I think will suit your model much much better, and take fewer polys to boot.
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
With (1900 poly)
Ouch, d00d! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) Shards everywhere! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
But I still like it... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Looks like a creature, turtle or something, that is missing its legs... Or maybe it's that spacecrack again... hmmm..
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[This message has been edited by Black Ace (edited 07-21-2001).]
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Originally posted by Joey_21:
Ouch, d00d! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) Shards everywhere! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
But I still like it... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
I hope not - just to clarify, the main hull is 806 polys. The 4 big turrets are seperate sub-objects of about 140 polys each, and there are around 15 smaller recessed beam type turrets.
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Originally posted by Joey_21:
Ouch, d00d! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) Shards everywhere! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
But I still like it... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
FS2 has a 8000 poly limit did you know that I think not. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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I'd like it with. You put in all that extra work, and you might as well..!
On the other hand, however, it is not in the Terran tradition to have all weaponry facing in one direction (it's more a Shivan trend - check out the Sathanas and Ravana).
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Terran tradition will put the most effective weapons on the opposite side of the vessel. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h:
Terran tradition will put the most effective weapons on the opposite side of the vessel.
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Originally posted by Setekh:
I'd like it with. You put in all that extra work, and you might as well..!
On the other hand, however, it is not in the Terran tradition to have all weaponry facing in one direction (it's more a Shivan trend - check out the Sathanas and Ravana).
Yeah, but they mgiht have learnt from the shivans... oh wait, this is the GTVA, so probably not (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Anti-cap weapons on the front are good for hit&run attacks, but the shivans never really noticed that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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I mistakened "Ogre" as "Orgy" (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif) (Lord Jesus, please forgive me!)
And by the way, NICE model! But I think that the name is inapporpriate. "Ogre" sounds more of a Shivan ship. Name it something like the "GTD Eros".
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Originally posted by Rampage:
I mistakened "Ogre" as "Orgy" (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif) (Lord Jesus, please forgive me!)
And by the way, NICE model! But I think that the name is inapporpriate. "Ogre" sounds more of a Shivan ship. Name it something like the "GTD Eros".
I have a naming precedent for all the ships in this 'series' (i.e. the campaigns' future setting), such as the GTCa Warlock, the SOCv Wyvern, and the GTWc Gryphon.
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
I have a naming precedent for all the ships in this 'series' (i.e. the campaigns' future setting), such as the GTCa Warlock, the SOCv Wyvern, and the GTWc Gryphon.
You know, I've wondered about that...
I know multi-player pilots named Warlock, Gryphon, and Wyvern but can't say I ever ran across one named Ogre (or Orgy) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
As far as the model, I like it _with_ the guns, if you create a new beam for them. Say an anti-cap ship beam that has a very long range (hence the reason for the extended barrels, needed to properly collimate the beams for the super extended range (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) )
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This ships looks very nice. But I think an Orion successor should not be symetrical.
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Back on topic plees?
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Originally posted by StarGunner:
Back on topic plees?
He is on topic... all my big ships (bar the odd station) are symettrical - mainly to provide equal fire coverage...and I actually hate the original Orion, anyway.
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Original concept piccy, showing the guns;
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.white19/concept_art/concept_1.jpg)
I had to dump the frontal design because it exceeded the poly limits...
[This message has been edited by aldo_14 (edited 07-26-2001).]
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
...and I actually hate the original Orion, anyway.
Hey (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif), thats my baby, i luv the Orion (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) far better than the ugly hecate (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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My hecate looks alot nicer than yours (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Orion would kick any hecate's butt any day (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif), however for this ogre, might need a few BFgreens (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Big ****ing greens, huh? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (I hope this is censored)(Nope, it's not)
[This message has been edited by Raa Tor'h (edited 07-26-2001).]
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Originally posted by Nephilim:
Orion would kick any hecate's butt any day (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif), however for this ogre, might need a few BFgreens (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
FEP Cannons... hard to describe, but like a barrage beam weapons... lots of relatively weak shots in a short time.
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Originally posted by StarGunner:
Back on topic plees?
Do you know what you're talking about? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Hey Aldo, I was just going to suggest that - those beams look really cool, with lot sgiong on and off at the same time. Have like a row of beam cannons, or an array of spike type things (like a small scale of the Sathanas beam arms) - if we could get them to spin, that would be cool, like the Belial. What a cool effect... Don't know if it would work with beams, though.
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Do you know what you're talking about? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Hey Aldo, I was just going to suggest that - those beams look really cool, with lot sgiong on and off at the same time. Have like a row of beam cannons, or an array of spike type things (like a small scale of the Sathanas beam arms) - if we could get them to spin, that would be cool, like the Belial. What a cool effect... Don't know if it would work with beams, though.
The big-*** ships I'm building will have something like this - fixed fire beam cannons mounted on rotating sub-objects...I'm hoping they'll fire ok when I test.
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Final decision - I'm keeping the big guns (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)