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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 09:33:40 am

Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 09:33:40 am
...So now I shall pass it on, like an infectious virus.

Substrate Independence my ass... :doubt:

http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: an0n on September 02, 2002, 09:41:58 am
Bah! There is a friggin spoon.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 09:45:01 am
Apparently so.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: wEvil on September 02, 2002, 09:46:19 am
There is no spoon.

There is, however, a TV showing some mutant bunnies behind them.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 09:50:02 am
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Originally posted by wEvil
There is no spoon.

There is, however, a TV showing some mutant bunnies behind them.


Are they ill-tempered? :drevil:
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Levyathan on September 02, 2002, 10:06:37 am
I would read through all that huge text if I had nothing else to do. Unfortunately, I do.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Grey Wolf on September 02, 2002, 10:24:20 am
That was stupid. Really stupid. This is not the Matrix. The guy should lay off the LSD.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: TheVirtu on September 02, 2002, 10:31:01 am
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Originally posted by Kellan


Are they ill-tempered? :drevil:




:lol:
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Styxx on September 02, 2002, 12:14:54 pm
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Originally posted by Levyathan
I would read through all that huge text if I had nothing else to do. Unfortunately, I do.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Knight Templar on September 02, 2002, 01:23:40 pm
I would rather like to know who came up with the name for "crutons" or however you spell them.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: CP5670 on September 02, 2002, 02:02:07 pm
Some interesting stuff there; I only read through the first few paragraphs but I think I see what he is saying. He seems to have made an important oversight though: given the assumptions, the simulation would for all purposes be exactly the same thing as a "reality," and it would make no difference what word we choose to call it. In fact, suppose that a person imagines something in his mind, we have a "simulated universe" right there. Either the absolute existence axiom or the purpose/meaning deduction is required to bypass this difficulty.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Blue Lion on September 02, 2002, 02:04:56 pm
My main question is....


So? How will this affect my day to day life? It won't?

What a shock

*wanders off*
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Post by: CP5670 on September 02, 2002, 02:16:57 pm
That's what I mean: there would be no difference between such a "simulation" and a "reality," even for theoretical purposes, so they would just be two words for the same idea. :D
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 04:08:36 pm
Don't be too hard on the guy; he probably needed an original idea for his PhD. :D
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Styxx on September 02, 2002, 04:12:08 pm
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Originally posted by Kellan
Don't be too hard on the guy; he probably needed an original idea for his PhD. :D


Not that it's an original idea at all... :p
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Kellan on September 02, 2002, 04:14:41 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx


Not that it's an original idea at all... :p


Once again I say, there are no original ideas. Just original ways to die.
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: wEvil on September 03, 2002, 03:09:55 am
I think for what its a worth, its a good, interesting peice of literature.
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Post by: Styxx on September 03, 2002, 08:42:50 am
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Originally posted by Kellan
Once again I say, there are no original ideas. Just original ways to die.


Oh, there are original ideas. We just don't tell you about them. :D
Title: This made my head hurt...
Post by: Sandwich on September 03, 2002, 08:54:50 am
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Originally posted by Levyathan
I would read through all that huge text if I had nothing else to do. Unfortunately, I do.


Ditto. :blah:

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Originally posted by Styxx


Oh, there are original ideas. We just don't tell you about them. :D


*cough*ThePlan™*cough*
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Post by: Styxx on September 03, 2002, 09:11:20 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
*cough*ThePlan™*cough*


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