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Title: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: Connerzephyr on October 31, 2021, 11:39:11 pm
it's been a while since i've done anything with freespace SCP so i wanted to walk the old block again.
trouble with the Knossos mod manager, I have it installed, i have my account set to it, but when i try to get blue planet complete, or any other mod, I click the download with mod manager button, and nothing happens, Knossos does not respond despite it being up and open.
This is the web page i'm trying to use to get blue planet complete
https://fsnebula.org/mod/blueplanetcomplete

normally I'd try logging in on the site to see if that works but there is no login option that I can find, any assistance in getting past this hurdle will be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: jg18 on November 01, 2021, 02:24:26 am
You should be able to download mods within Knossos directly, without using a separate browser. You don’t need an FSNebula account to download mods.

What do you see in the Explore tab in Knossos? And what version of Knossos are you using? And what platform/OS are you on?
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: Connerzephyr on November 01, 2021, 08:56:42 pm
I'm on windows 10, I'm using Knossos 0.14.3, and the explore tab has a list of mods, but none of blue planet at all, or transcend, my favorite ones that I've been wanting to revisit
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: jg18 on November 01, 2021, 09:24:41 pm
If Blue Planet and Transcend aren't in the Explore tab, then Knossos doesn't have an installation of the original FreeSpace 2.

You'll need a copy of FreeSpace 2 from either GOG (https://www.gog.com/game/freespace_2) or Steam.

Once you have that, try the "Install FS2" button on Knossos's settings screen (the gear icon in upper-right).
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: Connerzephyr on November 01, 2021, 09:44:17 pm
Ok this is going to seem really silly, but I thought Knossos was meant for the steam installed FS2 Open source code project. I actually have that part all installed, mods set up with accessability through WX launcher. I just need to be able to get the new blue planet mods, I just don't know how to write a .ini file, so I'm a bit stuck
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: jg18 on November 01, 2021, 11:10:24 pm
wxLauncher isn't supported anymore. You don't need to write any .ini files.

Knossos does everything wxLauncher did and so much more.

Here's what I suggest:


The great thing about Knossos is that it will automatically download the mod assets, dependencies like MediaVPs, and game engine (FSO) executables and set everything up for you.

If any of the assets/dependencies/executables have an update released, Knossos will notify you that an update is available. You can then apply the update simply by clicking a button in Knossos.
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: Connerzephyr on November 07, 2021, 01:32:53 am
Thank you for that, the only thing now is when i go to the link i mentioned earlier, the only option i have is to download all of the different assets into different download packages, instead of just being able to have knossos download it directly. with as numerous of files as there are, I actually don't know what I'm doing with all of those, how to set up the asset locations, if they should all be in their own big folder separating blue planet from others, that sort of thing. it's a bit daunting, and I know for a fact without instruction on what to do with those, or without knossos being able to download it from the site (which the big download with knossos button suggests it should be able to do) I know i'll screw something up and it still won't be playable. these kinds of file movements need very specific and exact steps, which I don't have.
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: Mito [PL] on November 07, 2021, 10:55:40 am
Don't go into links unless you want to download files manually. If you navigate to Explore tab, then to the mod tile, hover your mouse over it and press the "Install" button that shows up. From there on, Knossos should do everything by itself, and when it finishes downloading you can launch the mod from the Home tab.

Edit: just to clarify, Knossos FSO installation is completely separate from whatever else ones you have, and Knossos itself serves as a mod manager, installer and launcher for that installation. When you point Knossos to retail FS2, it just copies over the necessary files into its own mod library directory.
Title: Re: Knossos mod manager help, unable to download mods
Post by: jg18 on November 07, 2021, 11:13:13 am
Hmm, looks like the "Download with Knossos" link on the website isn't working for me, either. I'll file an issue with the Knossos dev team. Thanks for letting us know, Connerzephyr.

Just to double-check, when you installed Knossos, one of the install options was a check box for "fso:// Support". That box was checked, right?

Also to confirm, you started with a new or empty folder for Knossos's Library folder, right?

In any case, like Mito [PL] said, try going to Knossos's Explore tab and getting Blue Planet Complete from there.

EDIT: Created Knossos Issue #240 (https://github.com/ngld/old-knossos/issues/240).