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Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 04, 2002, 04:07:25 pm
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/INFSupport01.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/INFSupport02.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/INFSupport03.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/INFSupport04.jpg)

I need to know what you guys would rather have. The regular support ship or this one I made today. Only one can be used so you decided.

note: i don't plan on remapping the new ship, but the size can be changed)
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: an0n on September 05, 2002, 11:38:00 am
Change the...err....Orion (?) textures on the side and I'd prefer that one.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Cyber Phoenix on September 05, 2002, 11:41:21 am
The new one looks great but i thinks it is too big.
but since it is supposed to carry large quantity of supplies if think it is fine.
Great work anyway.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Ryx on September 05, 2002, 12:31:50 pm
New.

I assume the ships will carry a greater payload. Could be wrong, though. :nervous:
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 05, 2002, 03:36:21 pm
well people complained about using a small support ship to carry bombs for large bombers.

There's no Orion texture on that. Most of it was taken from the gas miner and put on one single map.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Thor on September 05, 2002, 04:45:52 pm
Well, personally I like it, but if you decide against using it, can you donate it to the T-V War Project?  It has that old bulky look and feel to it.  But I vote for you to keep it.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Dead_Ghost on September 06, 2002, 08:24:55 am
hmm, too bad you're not thinking 'bout remapping it, it could use a huge bulls'eye:D :D  it's gonna make one hell of a target out in the combat zone:) . other than that it's cool, with the new (huge) bombers and all it would look weird with such a small support ship as the old one... I say use the new one!
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: aldo_14 on September 06, 2002, 03:57:20 pm
Er...sorry to be hypercritical, but I don't like it - the cockpit looks a bit poor and the Uv on the sides of the miners' gas tank texture is stretched.  Sorry.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 06, 2002, 04:16:36 pm
Well I can't draw so poor cockpit :)

Yeah I re-uvmapped that part again and it didn't change one bit... oh well :D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Galemp on September 07, 2002, 12:34:35 pm
If only the enemy would rearm once in a while...

*visualizes firing a pair of Trebs at the Jotun*
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 07, 2002, 12:44:45 pm
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
*visualizes firing a pair of Trebs at the Jotun*

Bah stop imagining, grab the Jotun and go do it :D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on September 07, 2002, 05:18:15 pm
Well support ship isn't that bad, but I think it should have a more how do you say...modern design. It looks more like a tank to me this way. :nod:
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 07, 2002, 05:51:24 pm
Well I made it look like the concept pic I modelled it off, it's supposed to look like that :)
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on September 10, 2002, 04:51:49 am
Yeah armored vheiscles(sp) rule. Why not have armored support ships. By the way, perhaps you should tweak it a bit so it would have a more futuristic look. You are not making a pre Freespace 1 campaign are you? :nervous:
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on September 10, 2002, 06:02:21 am
Might release this ship later.

Though I don't guarantee it'll dock correctly to every ship. It docks backwards to some INF ones :D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Thor on September 13, 2002, 09:58:59 pm
See, I was right.  Even Razor thinks it looks old:D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on September 15, 2002, 10:42:18 am
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Originally posted by Thor
See, I was right.  Even Razor thinks it looks old:D


What do you mean by EVEN Razor? I was here a lot before you mister!
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on September 15, 2002, 10:45:23 am
By the way, are those teeth under the Jotun cockpit? :nervous:
AARGH!! That thing bites!
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Thor on September 15, 2002, 11:52:23 am
sorry, I'll rephrase

"Razor also thinks it looks like an older model of support ship."

Thor sorry, Razor happy?
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Edwin on October 15, 2002, 01:54:16 pm
new. definitly new.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on October 15, 2002, 02:05:30 pm
Carefull. You should not argue with MY opinion. ;)
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Su-tehp on October 15, 2002, 03:10:34 pm
My Advice is don't use it for Inferno. It might work fine for the T-V war project, but it's just too bulky for a post-FS2 game.

The watchword for support ships is not size, but manuverability. Think about it: if you have a slow, highly explosive ship in the area, that is a BAD thing, even if that slow ship rearms you. Big slow support ships are sitting ducks for enemy fighters. Allied Command knows better than to be so waasteful than to risk expensive ammunition and the lives of pilots by having them fly a ship that is so at risk of being blown up by enemy fighters. Not only is the support ship pilot in danger if he flies this thing in a contested area, but the blast radius is likely to damage freindly fighters as well.

My take on this is that this ship would be better for historical campaigns, i.e. Terran-vasudan War era. A big, vulnerable support ship like this could be used to illustrate why the Terrans and Vasudans decided to use smaller, more manuverable support ships: because the big ones kept making big, unhealthy explosions.

Any smart support ship pilot will tell you that manuverability is what keeps him alive. You can't reload if your support ship keeps getting kakked, no matter how much ammo he can carry.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on October 15, 2002, 03:20:38 pm
Yeah but though it's a larger target it has far superior hull and shields and looks like it can carry bombs needed by the larger bombers, the normals upport ship looks like it can hold 2 bombs for the Notus :D

We'll probably use it, though you can change it back if you want :p
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Edwin on October 15, 2002, 03:55:00 pm
I'm arguing.  :D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Corhellion on October 15, 2002, 04:30:58 pm
hmmmm...interesting...

Tell me, Woo, do you look through the :v: concept art to get your ideas?

Just wondering...

Cor
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on October 15, 2002, 05:23:07 pm
no I look through the concept art to make the concept ships like this one :D
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: CODEDOG ND on October 15, 2002, 09:32:54 pm
hmmm....honestly...I prefer the older ones to it just because it is kinda low polyish?  Maybe...I have a model of that same support untextured somewhere on my HD, I'll dig it up sometime.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Black Wolf on October 16, 2002, 05:54:41 am
Personally, I don't like it that much. Looks too bulky - streamline it a bit.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Stunaep on October 16, 2002, 09:51:22 am
I like the bulky feel. It's not supposed to be a damn liner, for pete's sake. And it's biiig.
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Razor on October 16, 2002, 12:28:23 pm
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Originally posted by Edwin
I'm arguing.  :D


*Arms a sniper* *Takes good aim* *Shoots a sniper* *Hits*

You aren't anymore. ;) :p :yes:
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on October 16, 2002, 02:45:56 pm
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Originally posted by Stunaep
And it's biiig.

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/inf2/wraithsupport.jpg)
Doesn't look it there though ;)
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on October 17, 2002, 04:43:24 am
that dosn't look like anything....
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: JC Denton on July 04, 2003, 07:10:11 pm
Well, one thing I don't like about it is the texturing.  For one, I think they're too dark.  But I don't know if that'd clash with the theme of the rest of the ships.

And then there's that buggered UVmapping on the ammo pods.  Tried resizing the texture file, since remapping doesn't seem to work?
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Knight Templar on July 04, 2003, 07:41:53 pm
Last Post: 10-17-2002 02:43 AM :wtf:

What is up with all of you people bumping 6 month - year old threads lately?
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Turnsky on July 04, 2003, 07:51:01 pm
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Originally posted by JC Denton
Well, one thing I don't like about it is the texturing.  For one, I think they're too dark.  But I don't know if that'd clash with the theme of the rest of the ships.

And then there's that buggered UVmapping on the ammo pods.  Tried resizing the texture file, since remapping doesn't seem to work?


*slaps Jc Denton*

BAD! No Bumping!
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: JC Denton on July 04, 2003, 08:27:52 pm
well, for some odd reason, it was rather high up on the list for me.  must be because it's a poll, it's automatically stickied or summin'...

But geez, lay off.  I didn't even notice the post dates till now.  :(
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Ashrak on July 09, 2003, 12:56:09 am
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Originally posted by Woomeister

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/inf2/wraithsupport.jpg)
Doesn't look it there though ;)



what the hell is that under the support ship i mean?????? :eek:
Title: Be Supportive...
Post by: Woomeister on July 09, 2003, 03:18:40 am
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/infv5/techimages/wraithgrid.jpg)

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SOB Wraith:

An old resurrected project, the Wraith is a ponderously slow bomber capable of carrying the largest weapon in GTVA arsenals - the Armageddon. Exclusively an anti-juggernaught weapon, the Wraith can barely get up enough speed to give chase to a corvette. Fortunately, each Wraith is well-protected by quad Kayser turrets, but they must still be protected with fighter escorts.

From the site tech area.