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LONDON (September 7, 2002 6:21 p.m. EDT) - Extremist Muslim clerics will meet in London on Sept. 11 to celebrate the anniversary of the attacks on the United States and to launch an organization for Islamic militants, an organizer of the conference said Saturday.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state, said the conference will argue that the terror attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.
The event at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," will also mark the launch the Islamic Council of Britain.
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:wtf: :mad2: :mad:
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Why the heck can't everyone be nice to each other, and leave each other the fork alone. I firmly believe that the US foreign policy is to blame for pissing everyone off. If they just got their nose out of everyone elses buisness, the world could be a better place. I can't believe that any group anywhere can justify terrorism. It can't be done. They should round them up at that conference and toss them in jail for trying. I am really sick offf some of the carp this world creates. I normally say leave that country of yours, come to Canada, but if that PM of ours agrees to help Bush attack Saddam, then I just be right pissed off. They created that mess, now they have to deal with it. The world is just to Forked up for me. I'll be on the first ship out.
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Well, to some people 11/9 is worth celebrating... it was a strike at the huge evil corporate america, and a good strike at it too. It's they're beleifs so i suppose they have the right to feel however they want about it. People celebrate VJ (i think) day, for victory over japan in WWII, muslims can celebrate too...
However...
Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state
If you think i'm gonna go down a mosque 5 times a day you can go and die.
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Originally posted by beatspete
If you think i'm gonna go down a mosque 5 times a day you can go and die.
That's not the worst of it: Think mandatory unkempt beards for the guys and the Hijab for the girls, the sharia law, forced circumcision and No Pork products ;)
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Originally posted by vyper
LONDON (September 7, 2002 6:21 p.m. EDT) - Extremist Muslim clerics will meet in London on Sept. 11 to celebrate the anniversary of the attacks on the United States and to launch an organization for Islamic militants, an organizer of the conference said Saturday.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state, said the conference will argue that the terror attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.
The event at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," will also mark the launch the Islamic Council of Britain.
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:wtf: :mad2: :mad:
:mad: :mad: Yeah, i know some people here like to open-minded and stuff, but this is too far, these kind of people should be deported to Yemen. 9/11 was a totally unjustified attack against innocent civilians en masse, Bin laden carried out this attack because we liberated Kuwait.
EDIT: I think we need to tone down on these kind of topics, such as the Yugoslavia one and a few other politically minded ones. They are becomming to heated.
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I'm with you there.
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"Defend themselves from armed aggression"?
So what part of working in a skyscraper living the dream equates to 'armed aggression'??? :confused:
If they (the terrorists) want to defend themselves then (for once) I hypotheticly think that if the IRA truly wants peace then those radicals at the park should come under fire (and justify their death wishes)... Afterward materials used would mysteriously appear at police stations (thereby using that guns for amnesty thing Blair tried ealier, i think)... Thereby peace can come once more to the citizens of that shining Isle... :nod: man that sounds beautiful huh? Now if only that would happen here in the US for Klan demonstrations....
;)
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they should do that in NYC on 9/11 so they can get mugged. assholes.
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Originally posted by PhReAk
they should do that in NYC on 9/11 so they can get mugged. assholes.
They'd get worse than mugged
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obviously. i didn't want be too descriptive in what they would do to them, its 10am and i still need to eat.
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It should be said, in all fairness, that a lot of Muslim leaders in the UK have condemned this pamphlet as spreading hate an aggression (and soforth).
Still, I'm all for freedom of speech and all, but this stuff should be banned forthright.
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I think they should be allowed to have it and not have anyone so much as lay a hand on them.
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Why?
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They should be just as free to say what they want as we are.
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These people should have a right to say whatever they want but as long as they dont call for the destruction of our government or threaten lives they are protected. although strongly disagree with their message (that's an understatement)
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They should be able to call for the destruction of the government :wtf:
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They are going to protest in the streets or something? I would not be surprised if they are cut to pieces by a local mob even despite the fact that this is not in the US... :D
I think they should be allowed to say whatever they want as long as they don't actually do anything. Since their ideas are not exactly popular in the nation, mere vocal threats from them would be of no importance.
They should be able to call for the destruction of the government
Sure, but then the government should and will try to silence them. :D
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
They should be able to call for the destruction of the government :wtf:
Bah...I just don't agree...
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Originally posted by Scorpius
These people should have a right to say whatever they want but as long as they dont call for the destruction of our government or threaten lives they are protected. although strongly disagree with their message (that's an understatement)
they are calling for the destruction of the government - they're calling for the Uk to be made an Islamic state. That is impossible in a democratic, predominantly Christian country such as ours through 'legal' means...they are also advocating the forcing of religious belief and laws upon people who are not, nor wish to be, muslim. they are also advocating terrorist acts - murder - against people who are in a country which happens to be percieved to be their enemy... remember that many of the 11/9 (or 9/11 in non-Uk date format, to be precise) Twin Towers victims were foreign nationals, not born in the USA.
Put it this way - what would happen if a European Christian fundamentalist group went to Saudi Arabia to campaign to overthrow the government in favour of an enforced Christian state?
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They wanna make idiots of themselves, fine with me. This isn't worth dignifying with more of a response than that.
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Originally posted by vyper
LONDON (September 7, 2002 6:21 p.m. EDT) - Extremist Muslim clerics will meet in London on Sept. 11 to celebrate the anniversary of the attacks on the United States and to launch an organization for Islamic militants, an organizer of the conference said Saturday.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state, said the conference will argue that the terror attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.
The event at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," will also mark the launch the Islamic Council of Britain.
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:wtf: :mad2: :mad:
If I was a betting person I would probably expect somebody to bomb it. But mere vocal threats are bleh.
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Cage em and deport them to Yemen, problem solved and they'll be happy in Yemen.
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Originally posted by Top Gun
...forced circumcision...
...for both sexes, BTW. :doubt: :shaking:
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...for both sexes, BTW.
ahhh!!! :nervous: :shaking: :nervous:
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Pfft. What can one say about it?
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let's not kill them, yet, but take note of wich side there on
I think you can see the stratigy, poor islamic nations send imagrants to democratic nations, who then proceed to use that system to bring it down, useing both media and population manipulation
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Unfortunately - it's not failing. I don't like the British (or American) governments but they're a damn site better than a group who think that dying for a religion is the way to go.
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Minority rule is the case in Britian.
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No doubt because of our ****ed-over media. Someone somewhere really should impose laws on those people, I'm getting a little tired of not finding any completely unbiased reporting.
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let's not kill them, yet, but take note of wich side there on
I think you can see the stratigy, poor islamic nations send imagrants to democratic nations, who then proceed to use that system to bring it down, useing both media and population manipulation
or terrorists who happen to be islamic that come in and not only use the above, but our piloting schools and airplanes...
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Originally posted by Thunder
No doubt because of our ****ed-over media. Someone somewhere really should impose laws on those people, I'm getting a little tired of not finding any completely unbiased reporting.
Thunder, complete 100% objectivity is impossible. EVERONE is biased in one way or another.
...Even me. :D
But to get back on topic: If these morons want to celebrate 9/11, they're more than welcome to try. It'll backfire on them.
PhReAk suggested that these assholes should try to "celebrate" here in the US. I have a better idea: let these maggots try and "celebrate" at here at Ground Zero. I don't care how much Americans value free speech, there would be a riot all over NYC to murder these bastards.
And I'd be the first one in line for this riot (and I'm a lawyer!) :mad:
Originally posted by Top Gun
That's not the worst of it: Think mandatory unkempt beards for the guys and the Hijab for the girls, the sharia law, forced circumcision and No Pork products ;)
WHAT?!?!?!? NO MORE PORK RINDS!?!? That's it, where's my gun? :mad2: :mad: :drevil:
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And I'd be the first one in line for this riot (and I'm a lawyer!)
lol
we gotta talk
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Originally posted by Sandwich
...for both sexes, BTW. :doubt: :shaking:
Um, how the hell does that work? Do they like take out thier.. erm.. "virginity"?
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Let's just say female circumcision is a lot less pleasant than the male version, isn't really circumcision, and leave it at that, all right? It's nasty, and I don't wanna think about it.
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yet you force us to think of it out of curiosity
ahhh!!!!
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If you're curious, you don't know what it is, so you can't possibly think about it. :rolleyes:
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i'm in the stage of life were i can still imagine things.. and by going by male circumcision and what it is for, i can imagine what they do to the female..
but that's enough bout' circumsizing for me.. unless it's bout' animals... ;7
jus kidding
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Where's the 'vomiting copiously' emoticon when you need it?
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
i'm in the stage of life were i can still imagine things.. and by going by male circumcision and what it is for, i can imagine what they do to the female..
but that's enough bout' circumsizing for me.. unless it's bout' animals... ;7
jus kidding
which reminds me of a question I have.... why do men need circumcision, in your opinion/mindset? (according to the bible it's some acceptance of agreement with god, but that's not for all humans... hmmm. Additionally why would women have to be "circumcised" hmmm [wtf, how do you circumcise a women? take the clit's skin off?)
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All right, I'll tell you why. Female circumcision isn't cutting any skin off. It's stitching the vagina shut, so they can't have sex until they're married. Any further questions?
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was waay off.... i was with kami's
[wtf, how do you circumcise a women? take the clit's skin off?)
that's gotta be intresting to say the least...
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Stryke, you just had to tell them didn't you? :wtf:
Circumcision, bleh just less worry about cleaning well....um. You know. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
All right, I'll tell you why. Female circumcision isn't cutting any skin off. It's stitching the vagina shut, so they can't have sex until they're married. Any further questions?
:wtf::wtf:wtf:
That's not cool, not cool at all.
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People kept asking what the big deal was. It was gettin annoying. Now, maybe, the topic will get dropped, before some idiot decides to post a picture or something.
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Anyways,
Maybe we should just throw them in jail and let bubba take care of them.
Hope they don't drop the soap! :)
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Originally posted by delta_7890
Bah...I just don't agree...
Any reason? Or you just don't want people to express opinions you don't agree with? :wtf:
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People kept asking what the big deal was. It was gettin annoying. Now, maybe, the topic will get dropped, before some idiot decides to post a picture or something.
what the hell guys, it's not like he said anything offensive, if you find information like that offensive... as nasty as it sounds...
please, no pics tho..
Maybe we should just throw them in jail and let bubba take care of them.
hehe, bubba... according to my geometry teacher.who knows 8 different ways to skin cats by the way, nobody he knows, especially in any of his classes, could live through jail.. all because of bubba.
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let them say whatever they want. it'll just make them look more retarded.
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Originally posted by Carl
let them say whatever they want. it'll just make them look more retarded.
Militant, extremist retards shouldn't breathe. They're a waste of good atmosphere. To say nothing of the fact that it's amazing that God would waste skin on such trash...
But your point is taken, Carl.
Originally posted in Carl's siggy
All but 15 of you hate Setekh.
I know I didn't make a card, but I did give permission to have my name signed onto any card going to Setekh. Am I among the 15 guys who sent a card or not? :confused:
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CP: free speech is an interesting concept, isn't it? it's not 'say what they like as long as they don't do anything' anymore, it's 'say what they like as long as they don't say anything offensive to western ie US government' which is basically equal to 'say nothing'.
Thunder: biased media as in, very much not against US, or bias as in, impossible to achieve by a human?
or what Su-Tehp said.
Knight/Stryke: actually, it's not just stitching it shut, it's also cutting off bits in some of the more extreme forms.
Does anyone know what's going to happen next? like, what all the pollies want to do about Iraq and all that? Last I heard Tony Blair was meeting with Bush about attacking Iraq, but that was only a brief news blast.
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actually, it's not just stitching it shut, it's also cutting off bits in some of the more extreme forms.
Somehow i feel safer living each day knowing that now...
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you're not a woman. what are you talking about?
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Originally posted by Sandwich
...for both sexes, BTW. :doubt: :shaking:
:wtf: How the hell do you circumcise a female? Wait...am I gonna regret asking?
EDIT: Hrm...guess it was already answered. And, now knowing what that answer is...ech...that's just...wrong.
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Oy! What have I started!? :doubt:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Oy! What have I started!? :doubt:
:lol:
Funny how if "muslim" or "islam" is mentioned just once in a topic, female circumsision is bound to pop up.
Anyway,
by icespeed
biased media as in, very much not against US, or bias as in, impossible to achieve by a human?
Huh? Whats that mean?
.... i suppose a computer could be non bias, since they only work on numbers. But un-bias news all the time would be kind of boring, reading the paper wouldnt be very intresting. Even if you disagree with an article, you still read it.
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Originally posted by icespeed
actually, it's not just stitching it shut, it's also cutting off bits in some of the more extreme forms.
And people wonder why I'm racist. :doubt: :rolleyes:
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you're not a woman. what are you talking about?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Funny how if "muslim" or "islam" is mentioned just once in a topic, female circumsision is bound to pop up.
eh.. yeah! hehhe
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On an infinite time-line, Britain will eventually fall under Islamic rule. Thankfully, the sun will eventually go Nova before this ever happens.
I'm all for ethnic diversity (hahahahaha), but thinking Britain will ever fall under islamic rule is just plain retarded. ****, I'd nuke the place if it was ever close to becoming an Islamic state.
I likes my women scantilly clad and my beard a small, jet-black devil-goatee at the most.
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I think we've got groups here as well that want to turn the US into an "Islamic state." :D :D
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Originally posted by CP5670
I think we've got groups here as well that want to turn the US into an "Islamic state." :D :D
I certainly do. Teach them some restraint.
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Originally posted by CP5670
I think we've got groups here as well that want to turn the US into an "Islamic state." :D :D
yeah, and that'll happen after hell freezes over.. :p
I won't let it happen...
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Well, where would you lock them up?
I'm not 100% on things, but I'm pretty sure that a hardened criminal is still a hardend criminal.
You get a guy who wants "3 hots and a cot" and is a career criminal so he doesn't have to contribute to society or whatnot who's just trying to figure out how he can avoid getting put out on parol if he's been a good boy. Now you add in some people who're actively supporting terrorism in allied lands, killing civilians, trying to push their religion onto a fellow who'd rather put his foot up their rear than look at him?
Mix well inside a nice cozy jail cell.
And viola, a number of dead inmates and bubba gets his wish to stay in the prison system.
Granted, if they were locked up, they'd be put in solitary confinment 'for their safety'.
But slip-ups do happen. Security guards do look the other way from time to time.
Lotta people die in jail. Usually child molesters as soon as their crime gets out into the population. (Lotta guys in there have kids on the outside and don't take lightly to having to live with someone who'd try to kill or **** their kid if he got out.)
Damn, my brother and my sister tells me way too much about the time they spent in federal.
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Originally posted by Kitsune
Damn, my brother and my sister tells me way too much about the time they spent in federal.
Kitsune, maybe I'm overstepping my bounds by asking this (and I know it's OT, too) but what the hell did your brother and sister do that landed them in a federal pen?
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Originally posted by Su-tehp
Kitsune, maybe I'm overstepping my bounds by asking this (and I know it's OT, too) but what the hell did your brother and sister do that landed them in a federal pen?
Edited by Sandwich: An0n, remember the fine line, and try not to leap over it with all your strength in the future, m'kay?
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Dude, that's out of line - unless that's what happened and presuming Kitsune made it any business of yours to say it I think that's way out of line, that kind of joke is over the mark.
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Originally posted by delta_7890
:wtf: How the hell do you circumcise a female? Wait...am I gonna regret asking?
Certain religious wackos discovered that certain parts odf the female anatomy were solely their for sexual pleasure so they get removed in childhood.
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Originally posted by Top Gun
Certain religious wackos discovered that certain parts odf the female anatomy were solely their for sexual pleasure so they get removed in childhood.
The first religious nut to do that to any of my girl - friends is gonna get his balls cut off. *sits in corner even more angry at world than was b4*
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Originally posted by Top Gun
Certain religious wackos discovered that certain parts odf the female anatomy were solely their for sexual pleasure so they get removed in childhood.
*blinks, shakes his head and just...sighs* Gee...I don't suppose they do anything like that to the males, now do they? Sexist bastards... Now before someone flames me, I'm not insulting the people who *follow* that religion, just certain aspects of it. Obviously, this is an example. To me...toying around with the human body in such a way...is outright disgusting. I can't really explain my reasoning for feeling that way...but...oh well, you get the idea.
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It's more of a cultural than religious thing though. The Quaran in certain places actually instructs men to sexually satisfy women (which could never happen had the afore mentioned procedure been carried out).
Perhaps someone could inform me of the distribution of this practice. It's supposed to be quite common in sub-Saharan Africa but I'm not sure wherther other Arab states do it.
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Originally posted by vyper
LONDON (September 7, 2002 6:21 p.m. EDT) - Extremist Muslim clerics will meet in London on Sept. 11 to celebrate the anniversary of the attacks on the United States and to launch an organization for Islamic militants, an organizer of the conference said Saturday.
Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun, a radical group that supports making Britain an Islamic state, said the conference will argue that the terror attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.
The event at Finsbury Park mosque in north London, "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," will also mark the launch the Islamic Council of Britain.
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:wtf: :mad2: :mad:
heres a tip, gather some friends, gather some guns, gather some kills
(or you can just give up and moveto scottland)
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
heres a tip, gather some friends, gather some guns, gather some kills
(or you can just give up and moveto scottland)
UMM?
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Yeh, well my uni has an extremist group somewhere on campus - I'm sure of it.
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I like the way this topic is turning- freedom and justice for everyone, and whoever disagrees, throw the bastards in jail and make examples of 'em so nobody else dissents!
Ah, Stalin, you never will truly die.:D
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Edited by Sandwich: An0n, remember the fine line, and try not to leap over it with all your strength in the future, m'kay?
naughty naughty boy, i don't even need to try to guess....
I like the way this topic is turning- freedom and justice for everyone, and whoever disagrees, throw the bastards in jail and make examples of 'em so mobody else dissents! Ah, Stalin, you never will truly die. :D
:lol: :lol:
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
naughty naughty boy, i don't even need to try to guess....
I do, I wanna know
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you'll probably neva find out, specially' if it was that uncalled for
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I could just ask an0n :wtf:
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
I could just ask an0n :wtf:
It wouldn't have been all that horribly bad had it been just a general post, but in the context it was in, it went way over the line.
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I could just ask an0n :wtf:
lets not get smart now... :wink:
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Originally posted by Sandwich
It wouldn't have been all that horribly bad had it been just a general post, but in the context it was in, it went way over the line.
:wtf:
Now I HAVE to ask him
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Originally posted by Blue Lion
:wtf:
Now I HAVE to ask him
So...what's stopping you? oo;;
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Underpants gnomes
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Actually federal is the wrong term to use.
It was a state prison. One went up for bouncing a bad check (cheapass bastard), the other was visiting a friend's place when the cops did a raid there going after a roommate who stashed his stuff in her purse. (Her fault for agreeing to babysit I suppose. :/ )
And anon, just what the hell are you trolling after?
I haven't said jack to you but you think it's alright to spout off bad enough that the admins need to step in and tell you to cool it?
But whatever, the crap here in the general thread is getting too thick for me to stomache.
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Can we please let this drop or get it back on topic? What an0n said was stupid but there's no need to let it get any more out of proportion - either let the topic die or move back to something worth discussing other than an0ns posts.
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To get back on topic - I call for a crusade!
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Originally posted by Kitsune
Actually federal is the wrong term to use.
It was a state prison. One went up for bouncing a bad check (cheapass bastard), the other was visiting a friend's place when the cops did a raid there going after a roommate who stashed his stuff in her purse. (Her fault for agreeing to babysit I suppose. :/ )
~-=™! So instead of ince.....errr.....what I said, you've got fraud and possession !™=-~
And anon, just what the hell are you trolling after?
~-=™! Eh? The definition of a troll is one who is randomly violent and abuse towards other board members, or posts retarded things. I wasn't violent or abusive to any board members, and what I said was as good a guess as any. And on a related note: Born a troll, die a troll !™=-~
I haven't said jack to you but you think it's alright to spout off bad enough that the admins need to step in and tell you to cool it?
~-=™! I didn't 'spout off'. It was a single sentence.......I think. The colon might have made it two, I'm not really sure. !™=-~
But whatever, the crap here in the general thread is getting too thick for me to stomache.
~-=™! Obviously. If the crap is reaching your stomach then there's something b vastly wrong with your digestive system and you should seek medical assitance immediately.......or eat 50 packs of suger-free Polos. !™=-~
Originally posted by Thunder
What an0n said was stupid
~-=™! No it wasn't. It was pure comic genius. !™=-~
Originally posted by Sandwich
Edited by Sandwich: An0n, remember the fine line, and try not to leap over it with all your strength in the future, m'kay?
~-=™! Okay. Half-strength it is. M'kay. !™=-~
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*dies of quote poisoning*
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Originally posted by an0n
~-=™! Obviously. If the crap is reaching your stomach then there's something b vastly wrong with your digestive system and you should seek medical assitance immediately.......or eat 50 packs of suger-free Polos. !™=-~
Failing that a pack of Ex-Lax.
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This isn't really going anywhere anymore, well done an0n :doubt: