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Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 19, 2003, 08:51:06 am
Since we both are using the Angel, i was wondering in what timeframe you guys are using it, because i consider your campaign a prequel to FS1 i'd like to be consistent with your timeline & shipspecs ;)

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 19, 2003, 11:36:18 am
We don't have a clue as to when the fighter was commissioned, but it was decomissioned shortly before the Great War. Perhaps the ship was constructed in something like 2330.

'Course Eishtmo is going to be here in a few mins to either tell me why my post is bull****, or why you shouldn't use the Angel.



In short, we haven't done much with the Angel as of now. We probably won't be bothering with it for a LOOONNG time.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 19, 2003, 12:55:02 pm
Thx for the info :)

2330 it is then (for now.... ^_^)

Cheers,
Title: Pics?
Post by: Corsair114 on April 19, 2003, 05:23:00 pm
Do any of you have pictures of the Angel Scout? I'd like to see what it looks like...
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 19, 2003, 05:25:22 pm
check around this forum...we might have something...

It's almost like the Valkyrie. One less set of engines..no primaries on the nose, and a conical nose instead of a flat one.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Goober5000 on April 19, 2003, 06:38:15 pm
I think that it works best for the TVWP if the Angel is developed in Chapter 3.  However, I'm not sure what a proper date would be, since we haven't written the Chapter 3 story yet.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Hudzy on April 19, 2003, 06:39:29 pm
Kind of looks more white in colour if I recall correctly.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: IceFire on April 19, 2003, 07:25:58 pm
That sounds good guys.  I like the attention to detail on the Angel scout matter.  I know someone tried to do a Angel scout some time back and had no idea that it was what the Valk was based on...excellent...keep it up!
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 19, 2003, 07:29:23 pm
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Originally posted by Hudzy
Kind of looks more white in colour if I recall correctly.


We gave it a Valkyrie skin.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Corsair114 on April 19, 2003, 07:30:32 pm
Looked all over this forum and your website to no effect. Couldn't find the Angel. No problem though, that Mustang Alpha is a neat lookin' little ship.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Goober5000 on April 19, 2003, 07:35:44 pm
The site needs updating.  After exams. :)
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 19, 2003, 07:44:47 pm
yes
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 19, 2003, 11:22:47 pm
Pic of Angel Scout :)

(http://kefren.kicks-ass.net:10000/www.kefren.be/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/ESB/04192003/screen12.jpg)

More on www.kefren.be (http://www.kefren.be)

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Corsair114 on April 20, 2003, 12:15:38 am
Thanks for the pic!
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Knight Templar on April 20, 2003, 04:48:57 am
2330? That only gives it 5 years of use. And they referred to it as the old angel scout fighter.

Give er' more credit at least. Hell, the Herc was around for 32 years and its still not retired.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 20, 2003, 05:34:38 am
Well, i'd love to Knight Templar, but i know zilch about these things ;)

But while it could've been build in 2320 or 2310, it would most likely still be in service in 2330 then :)

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 20, 2003, 05:38:57 am
BTW, i still don't have any Vasudan ship from the same timeframe, any suggestions?
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 20, 2003, 05:40:28 am
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Originally posted by IceFire
That sounds good guys.  I like the attention to detail on the Angel scout matter.  I know someone tried to do a Angel scout some time back and had no idea that it was what the Valk was based on...excellent...keep it up!


I'm trying to stay as close to the original FS1 game as possible concerning tech & events, so it's only normal i'm trying to get as much info as possible :D

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 20, 2003, 05:51:27 pm
you're right KT. Amon Re, got any objections to 2325? Four years after the war started.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 20, 2003, 05:59:39 pm
2325? Sure, that'll do fine to, but you do know that'll mean i gotta design enough missions to fill them years up till the end of FS1 ;)

Speaking of the Angel Scout, for the moment i'm restricting it to the ML-16 laser, basicly because i don't know what other weaponry might be in use at that time, so suggestions would be welcome.

Also, i was thinking of restricting the ship's speed aswell, basicly this is a 2 engine powered craft, while the Valk is a 4 engine powered one, so i was thinking of giving it 2/3's of the Valk's speed.

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Goober5000 on April 20, 2003, 06:07:42 pm
2325 sounds good to me as well.

Amon_Re, what ARE you doing? :wtf: Sounds like you're trying to create another 14 Year War all by yourself.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 01:06:51 am
I wouldn't go that far Goober ;)

But the idea i have seems to be getting bigger & bigger all the time, originally i planned for a timeframe of 6 months > 1 year, but well, seems it'll be more like 8 years now ;)

However, you guys don't need to worry, i won't interfere with your timeline :)

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 01:13:59 pm
My current specs for the Angel Scout:

Manufacturer: Han-Ronald Corp
Gun banks: 2
Missile Banks: 1
Length: 16M

Max velocity: 55
Afterburner Max velocity: 115

Sounds good?

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: FreeTerran on April 21, 2003, 01:24:35 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Amon_Re
Max velocity: 55
Afterburner Max velocity: 115


That is to slow for a scout.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 01:29:43 pm
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Originally posted by Free Terran


That is to slow for a scout.


The Valkyrie is based on the Angel Scout, the angel scout had 2 engines, the valk has 4.

The top velocity for the Valkyrie is 85, Afterburner velocity is 165.

I think that considering the lesser engines those speeds i said were reasonable.

Provide me with an argument to make the Angel faster & i will :)
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: FreeTerran on April 21, 2003, 01:32:22 pm
Hmm...............*think*
I have no argument.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 01:50:34 pm
LOL :)

Well, if you don't like the speeds, just say other numbers then :) but it should be slower then the Valk

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Flaser on April 21, 2003, 02:59:14 pm
Not necessarily...well probably, but not to that degree - I say it should have a speed around 70 at least.
The Angel hadn't had the armour or the weaponry that the Valkyre posses, so it was much lighter, so even with two engines it should have been quite speedy.
It was a scout not a fighter or an interceptor. It was scouting not hunting.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 21, 2003, 03:11:12 pm
Given it's age, I'd say 70 tops.

The Angel has 1 gun bank, 1 missile bank. Those guns on the wings are the only guns it has. The Valkyrie has two "hard-points". And the Valkyrie has "Two additional Primary Hard-points" (from the briefing it was introduced in)
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 03:20:17 pm
Thx for all the replies, i'll change the speeds & hitpoints then.

One more question, does anyone know how old the Appolo was when FS1 started? What about bombers & other chips? What cap ships would already have been designed in 2325?

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 21, 2003, 03:35:01 pm
2325...I'm not sure if the Orion was around yet. You'l have the Sagittarius carrier, the Reliant destroyer, a couple of cruisers and a frigate. But you'll have to wait until the first TVWP release to get at them. :D
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 21, 2003, 03:49:18 pm
Any idea's when that'll be? :)

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on April 21, 2003, 06:32:57 pm
Well, at this rate, never.


We need a modeler to do a few odd jobs (texturing, some turreting, and I think one fighter). Loads of people want to play it, but nobody will help...


So, unless we get a modeler, your campaign's screwed also...


sorry.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Goober5000 on April 21, 2003, 07:02:48 pm
Amon_Re, it sounds like you want to know the entire ship history of the T-V War before we've even thought about it.  Have a little patience. :) What is your project going to be that you need to know all this stuff?
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Amon_Re on April 22, 2003, 12:15:15 am
Quote
Originally posted by Goober5000
Amon_Re, it sounds like you want to know the entire ship history of the T-V War before we've even thought about it.  Have a little patience. :) What is your project going to be that you need to know all this stuff?


Hey, after the ships details i'll be nagging you guys about the politics of the FS universe, better be prepared ;)

I'll PM you a draft of the story outline, it's a little outdated, but should give you an idea of what i'm toying with here.

Cheers,
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Woolie Wool on June 04, 2003, 03:58:09 pm
Since the Angel might be a bit older than the Apollo (which had a top speed of 60 at default engine power compared to the Ulysses's 70), I'd say the Angel should have a top speed of 70 at default power and 85 at max power compared to the Valk's 85 and 100.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Fr3z3r on July 13, 2003, 11:57:01 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Solatar
2325...I'm not sure if the Orion was around yet. You'l have the Sagittarius carrier, the Reliant destroyer, a couple of cruisers and a frigate.


Check out the FSURP and their Terran-Vasudan War timeline. The Orion was there already.
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Solatar on July 14, 2003, 09:26:26 pm
This is a very old thread...please don't bump old threads.:D
Title: Angel Scout, timeframe & the vasudan counterpart(s)
Post by: Goober5000 on July 14, 2003, 10:45:25 pm
Besides - we are using that timeline for our campaign. :)