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Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: AlphaOne on October 14, 2003, 08:55:57 am
If lets say the GTVA is destroyed...by the Shivans...wich GTVa fleet or which gtva ship would you want to be in command...in order for you to find a way to avoid the extinction of the whole GTVA .....no imaginaty crap...just the facts..!
take into acount the fact that there is virtualy no suply ships left not gtva milatari force just a few battered up fleets scatered...all across the GTVa formerly controled space...!
You cant get eny help you are on your own...!
(:eek2:  now that is quite a nightmare..no...:wtf: :shaking: )
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Killfrenzy on October 14, 2003, 09:03:50 am
"Fleeing from the Shivan Tyranny, the last destroyer, Aquitaine, leads a ragtag fugitive fleet on a lonely quest - a shining planet known as Earth!"

;7

Sorry, couldn't resist!!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Nico on October 14, 2003, 09:05:31 am
anything would do, obviously, coz if you get no help, no food, nothing, you're gonna die a ****y death sooner or later anyway. what's with that question? :doubt:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: DeepSpace9er on October 14, 2003, 10:38:38 am
"We are the Shivans, lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distiveness to service us. Resistence is futile."

Me: Ok

:ha:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 14, 2003, 11:25:33 am
Simple: change your name to BD or QuantumDelta, hop in a random fighter and proceed to wipe out the Shivans
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: mnftg64 on October 14, 2003, 11:51:57 am
That could make an interesting campaign or mission set.....
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: SuperCoolAl on October 14, 2003, 01:35:36 pm
if u can include inferno ships- the Nemesis- it rocks! Just drive it into a gas cloud or something to refuel and it will wipe out anything
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Gloriano on October 14, 2003, 02:48:34 pm
well GTVA is building after capella
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: TopAce on October 14, 2003, 02:49:02 pm
I would hire Alpha 1. :)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: SuperCoolAl on October 14, 2003, 03:26:13 pm
yeah you could give him all impossible missions and stuff and he'd have to do 'em

assuming he's a he

but then again if he's not a he he'd be a she so i should not have described him as 'he' in my previous comment

assuming she's a she...
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: TopAce on October 14, 2003, 03:30:34 pm
Quote
Originally posted by SuperCoolAl
...
assuming he's a he

but then again if he's not a he he'd be a she so i should not have described him as 'he' in my previous comment

assuming she's a she...


That's a VERY good and long quote. Added to my list. :)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: an0n on October 14, 2003, 03:40:26 pm
I am Alpha 1. Just gimme a space-suit and a knife..........
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: aldo_14 on October 14, 2003, 03:44:11 pm
Um.  Surely you'r missing the obvious - a stealth fighter?

(er, with a really big stealth cargopod attached to hold vital living stuff)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: an0n on October 14, 2003, 03:45:28 pm
Yeah, try getting through a Shivan-infested node in a ship that explodes if a Mara even grazes it's shields.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: aldo_14 on October 14, 2003, 04:19:50 pm
That's why god invented afterburners.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Flaser on October 14, 2003, 04:35:13 pm
Hmmm....A Sobek with a decent fighter cover.
That's a fairly devent corvet both in terms of anticap and antifighter firepower and it's still fast to run a blockade.

The ship has a Vasudan reactor, so I think you could squeeze some extra power out of it for fleeing if everything else fails.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: an0n on October 14, 2003, 04:41:10 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
That's why god invented afterburners.
God? I thought it was Han Ronald?
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Nico on October 14, 2003, 04:42:09 pm
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14
That's why god invented afterburners.


No I didn't, I let some engineer do it for me :doubt:.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Woolie Wool on October 14, 2003, 05:55:50 pm
I'd command an Orion with fighter cover and stake my own claim in the galaxy.:)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Falcon on October 14, 2003, 06:03:14 pm
Hmmm.... A Deimos loaded with EMP missiles, Long Range Flaks, and Ultra AAA's, with SGreens. 6 Hercules II fighters
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Krackers87 on October 14, 2003, 06:19:44 pm
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
God? I thought it was Han Ronald?


Han "GOD" Ronald

God is just his s/n
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on October 14, 2003, 06:24:19 pm
I'd want a Vasudan battle group. A Hatshepsut, a Typhon, 2 Sobeks, a Mentu, and a scavvenged Aeolus. Along with 2 bomber wings (Sekhmat, Bakha) and 3 fighter wings (Seth, Horus, Ptah).

Ph34r the V4sud4n Sup3riorityah!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Knight Templar on October 14, 2003, 07:43:17 pm
Bravos to save the day!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Setekh on October 14, 2003, 10:43:41 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
I'd want a Vasudan battle group. A Hatshepsut, a Typhon, 2 Sobeks, a Mentu, and a scavvenged Aeolus. Along with 2 bomber wings (Sekhmat, Bakha) and 3 fighter wings (Seth, Horus, Ptah).

Ph34r the V4sud4n Sup3riorityah!


Aren't you missing something? :p
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: StratComm on October 14, 2003, 11:06:26 pm
Deviating from canon ships, I'll take:
1 Archangel-class Dreadnaut
1 Raynor-class Destroyer
1 :Classified: Destroyer
2 Phoenix-class Strike Carriers
8 Ajax-class Missile Frigates
12 Chimera-class Corvettes
20 Hyperion-class Cruisers
120 assorted fighters (20 per carrying-capable ship, 40 in the Archangel)
90 assorted bombers (15 per carrying ship, 30 in the Archangel)
4 AWACs ships (Charybdis-class)

One full next-generation battlegroup (minus a lot of fighters I suppose), and I'd be set to go.  Add in an obligatory convoy of freighters and transports carrying refugees and their supplies, and you have all humanity needs.  The Archangel and Ajax-class ships can dismantle a blockade from long range, and the destroyers/chimeras/archangel can handle almost anything up close.  Just bring along the maintenence techs.

Need ships?  Look in sig ;)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on October 15, 2003, 07:22:13 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh


Aren't you missing something? :p


Ahh, yes. The scavvenged Charybdis. Thanks. :devil:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 15, 2003, 12:11:23 pm
If I had only one capital ship to chose from, I'd chose an Orion.  I know its old and slow, but there are probably spare parts lying all over the galaxy for it.  Just bolt on all the extra weaponry and armor you can get your paws on and head out.  Obviously, your biggest problem in this instance is fuel, unless you're allowed to add a gas miner to your team.

Later!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Kazan on October 15, 2003, 03:06:09 pm
you'd need a factory ship and a contingent of asteroid-miners to support you on the run, and the ability to sit in one spot while they work
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: redsniper on October 15, 2003, 07:25:11 pm
I would just type 'arrrrwalktheplank' and kill Shivans from the Volition Bravos, since it's practically invincible.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on October 15, 2003, 07:38:41 pm
It never fired in my game... And it would always warp in like 10 clicks away from the battle zone...
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Bobboau on October 15, 2003, 07:48:02 pm
terran mara
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on October 15, 2003, 07:53:35 pm
Lol! The mara was... yeah.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Unknown Target on October 15, 2003, 09:00:59 pm
The Collosus. No ****ing DUH :D

Oh, yea, with it's fully fighter complement, and a squad of gas miners for fuel.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: ChronoReverse on October 15, 2003, 11:04:31 pm
Frankly, if the Colossus had actually scrambled it fighters and bombers immediately, I'd highly doubt the Sathanas could've killed it so quickly.  I don't understand why they didn't though, considering that they *were* there to take out capital ships in the first place and would need a fighter screen.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: TrashMan on October 16, 2003, 02:04:01 am
A full battlegroup + death star + SDF-1 + B5 + any other ship I can get my greedy little hands on!:D:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Black Wolf on October 16, 2003, 03:28:11 am
Teh Lucifer
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Flaser on October 16, 2003, 10:08:39 am
Why not the Nyarlhoteph?
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Black Wolf on October 16, 2003, 11:33:59 am
Because at least I can spell "Lucifer" :D
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Gloriano on October 16, 2003, 11:40:25 am
Full vorlon fleet:nervous:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Falcon on October 16, 2003, 07:33:27 pm
Forgot ship Myko Station from Urban Assault:D
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Gloriano on October 17, 2003, 07:08:13 am
in real world i think battle ships could deliver supplise
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: pyro-manic on October 17, 2003, 07:30:56 am
A supercharged Saphah-class frigate, converted to a tactical carrier by adding a fighterbay to the quarterdeck area. Then stick a wing each of Horus, Ares and Sekhmet inside, and a retractable ramscoop on the front. Sorted! ;)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Descenterace on October 17, 2003, 05:41:26 pm
Either GTVD Revenant, or GTSD Aquitaine (from my story, 'Apocalypse Nigh', where the Aquitaine takes heavy battle damage and is refitted as a Morgul-class Superdestroyer... the first of its kind...)

Bear in mind that Revenant is mostly capable of annihilating a battlegroup of between 30 and 50 Sathanii singlehandedly, depending on tactical situation, and that the Morgul-class Superdestroyer has a pair of Sathanas Beams on its front end.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Sandwich on October 21, 2003, 11:28:43 am
The GTVA Super Dooper Pooper Scooper!!!!112222oneonetwo

:rolleyes:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Singh on October 21, 2003, 11:51:51 am
Only 4 Things needed:
The 'Alpha 1' marker on my fighter
A Murmidon with 2 Helios Torps (for the capships)
A support ship with unlimited ammo
ummmmm........... maybe Bosch Beer if you drink alcohol? (If not, Bosch Biscuits would do!)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Gloriano on October 21, 2003, 11:59:25 am
but i think after collossus GTVA knew that big ships is not savior

so next evolution would be smaller faster but still power full destroyers/frigates/corvettes/cruisers
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: ChronoReverse on October 21, 2003, 12:00:16 pm
Gah, if these superpowered ships were available, the GTVA wouldn't have been annihilated.

Frankly, given the scenario, I'd choose a Deimos class corvette modified to have a greater speed and jump recharge rate.  It's also to have several wings of fighters (no bombers, we're trying to survive and run), the most the corvette can carry and supply.  Most of the anti-capital ship beams except for one will be removed to make more room for material storage, processing and manufacturing so that it would be possible to replenish parts.  And add the ramscoop for gas-mining if possible.

Battle tactic.  Fighters provide a screen while the corvette hightails it out and then the fighters jump out.

Additional technology.  The inverse of the subspace tracker.  If an enemy capital is detected to be making a jump at nearly the same time, we check their subspace "frequency" and make sure to last minute change ours so that they don't jump us in subspace.  The fighter screen can take out bombers so that's not a problem.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: neo_hermes on October 21, 2003, 05:53:33 pm
I'd have an Orion (GTD Intrepid) find as many parts/peices/hulks i could find and start making modifications to my orion.  i'd place another runway on the otherside, more firepower capable of defending itself from a Ravana. with 3 surviving fenris's, 2 leviathens, 1 diemos, and a hecate we would try to survive and wait for others.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Flaser on October 21, 2003, 06:29:16 pm
I'd still ride an ultra-fast corvette.

It would be a dance on the edge of the razor, but IMHO only a ship that can outrun a Fenris (at least) has any chance of escaping from the ensuing hell.

BTW I would pack some are beams too, with a set of capacitors to be able to fire 2 volleys. Otherwise only 1 would be availible, as  far as I figured photon beam canons actually use ammo (a fusion core that gets blast of as plasma), the wast ammount an area beam requires makes it impratical to do so. Instead they charge it with the reactor - which is slow and tends to be volatile as long as charged.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 22, 2003, 12:20:47 am
All you need is one ship.....

The Iceni

Its fast, heavily armored for its size, but its also got one of the most important pieces of technology you need to survive a full scale Shivan invasion.........

ETAK!

That'll keep them Shivans from bothering you.

Later!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: AlphaOne on October 22, 2003, 06:20:13 am
Well I thought I just waited till most pf you got theyr opinions on the thread..then post my own reply..!
Well I would personali take the Colossus...because it can cary a large amount of bommbers and fighters..aswell as a large amount of suplyes..and can provide a excelent protection for a full convoy..of gas miners asteroid miners...suply ships..civilian and milatary personel..but it would not be the only ship (milatary) that i would chose remember that if you take too many milatary ships you need a large amount of suplyes..!
My other options to tag along would be the Aquitane a couple of Sobeks well maibe more...lets say some 6 of them..and why not some Orions they can take a good beating and survive..!
this refering to the whole fleet thing..!
I was talking about a single ship from the original FS2 campaign.....and I choose the the Aquitane It can handle eny destroyer that the shivans throw at it..(no SJ please) and I think it has good upgrade posibilities..I can run with it till I drop...it can ram blocades...and why not I hope after some time maibe il find a  new Knossos..that will take me far away from the shivans...to distant location where I can finaly stop running and focus on finding a way resuply my ship and repair it..and even scavage for some pieces of destroied gas and asteroid miners out there..!
I hope..:p :doubt:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Jal-18 on October 26, 2003, 05:38:05 pm
A TC-2
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: chris_2xtreme on October 31, 2003, 05:57:31 pm
Personally I would Use Inferno Ships and start doing this

Find more Aliens an make them fight the shivans for you

also here is my fleet balanced to keep everything unexploitable

6 GTC Alcyone Class Cruisers (Anti-Fighter Usage)
4 GTCv Phobos Corvettes (Light Warship Destruction)
3 GTD Icelus Destroyers (Heavy Warship Destruction)
1 GTCa Warlock (Fighter Carrier with FULL compliment)
1 GTSD Odin (Command and Control)

Enough to start and maintain a pretty long war the only thing that could destroy that behemoth of a fleet would be the gargant
but that will be too busy "maintaining the galactic balance" to care about this fleet
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: phreak on October 31, 2003, 06:07:32 pm
i'd take a boreas or astarte for anti-warship stuff
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Odyssey on October 31, 2003, 06:08:38 pm
I'd take an Anuket. And hide in a nebula somewhere. It has scientific capabilities, so I'm sure some kind of hydroponics could be established. Also, remember that Anukets are supposed to have advanced sensors for navigating these places, so it could just jump out to somewhere else in the nebula if anything came too close.
I don't believe the idea for this topic was to create a whole fleet, right? That would be kind of implausible given the circumstances.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: ChronoReverse on October 31, 2003, 06:19:13 pm
That's what I was saying, if there really were these giant fleets and ships available, the GTVA wouldn't have been annihilated.  Large destroyers most likely would be all sacrificed and the smaller vessels would be left.  There's no way to win so the only thing to do is make a run for it and hope to find a quiet place to settle down.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Odyssey on October 31, 2003, 06:21:06 pm
Like... In an Anuket :p There ought to be plenty of those left. Can you imagine a fleet of Anukets? Pretty...
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on October 31, 2003, 06:59:47 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Odyssey
Can you imagine a fleet of Anukets? Pretty...


A man after my own heart! :D Want a 14k poly Anuket for in game? ;7
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Lightspeed on October 31, 2003, 08:02:07 pm
Gimme a Perseus, a Prom S and a Kayser, a pack of temps and i think most problems should be solved.

But then again... the shivans would never attack one of their own species... mwuahaha ;7 :lol:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: TrashMan on November 01, 2003, 05:41:54 am
In that case, either a Terran Mara or the Pegasus....

With a hevily modefied science vessel as my home base....
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Lightspeed on November 01, 2003, 06:52:35 am
whats that home-base nonsense? :D

Simply make pitstops on planets... And you can always eat toasted shivans :lol:
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Ashrak on November 01, 2003, 08:20:04 am
Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Simple: change your name to BD or QuantumDelta, hop in a random fighter and proceed to wipe out the Shivans



or lightspeed or Ashrak or Starlegend (hes old) :p
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Odyssey on November 01, 2003, 09:03:11 am
Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
A man after my own heart! :D Want a 14k poly Anuket for in game? ;7

Then you could only have one, not a fleet! :p
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on November 01, 2003, 11:32:47 am
Says who? ;7
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: DeepSpace9er on November 01, 2003, 12:06:36 pm
If Corvettes are included, id take a Deimos and remove the close range flak cannons and place some Kaysers instead. Get rid of all the laser cannons and put BFGreens there. ;7
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Zarax on November 01, 2003, 12:25:25 pm
I'd get the Neoceni, the modified Iceni class frigate, which is shielded and has decent anti fighter and anti ship capabilites...
Considering that it would be built over Iceni tech it would make a perfect rogue ship.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Johnmike on November 01, 2003, 05:57:16 pm
Hm...  Great idea.  In fact, you can call it w00ty.

That'd be a great idea for an offshoot of Freespace.  Kind of like Wing Commander: Privateer.  It didn't follow the game exactly.  Only instead of it taking place during the same time of FS2, put it in an alternate future.  I could see the game now...

Shivans controlz0rz you and stuff.  You have (the smallest class of ship is a cruiser, correct) cruiser on your site, with a bunch of other pilots.  You run a bunch of missions, trading, pirating, scavenging, until you gain supplies and stuff.  Then you're on the run from the Shivans.  You wind up assemblinb a fleet, which grows in size as you find more survivors.  The game can end with you taking control of a few systems and collapsing the jump nodes to all but the systems under control.  The duty is to clean out all the remaining Shivans, colonise, and rebuild.  Of course, the game already ended, so...  Sequel.  =P  o.O
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Setekh on November 01, 2003, 11:26:55 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
A man after my own heart! :D Want a 14k poly Anuket for in game? ;7


I swear, you're neurotic, or... something. :D
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on November 02, 2003, 08:58:18 am
Normally I'd be offended by that, but your arrays are just toooooo cute.


No, wait, I wouldn't be offended...
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: deep_eyes on November 03, 2004, 02:41:30 am
couldnt resist... BU BU BUMP!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on November 03, 2004, 09:16:42 am
Well, now with Anukets looking soooo spectacular in game. I'm tempted to agree with Oddyssey. Anukets pwn.

Especially if they could be fitted with AAAf technology.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Mad Bomber on November 03, 2004, 03:31:31 pm
Something fast... not too large so as to avoid attracting undue attention, but not so small as to be weak... and with a fighterbay...

I'd take the RMCv Victor. No question. (It's the fighterbay'ed Deimos.)

Tho if someone made a frigate class with a fighterbay, I'd use that.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 03, 2004, 04:23:24 pm
1 Hecate destroyer, modified. Primary combatant ship, has replaced its TerSlash beams with BGreens and special capicator system to keep them all firing, at least for awhile. The BGreens were torn out the Orions in mention next.
3 Orion-class destroyers, modified. All of them have replaced their Terran Huge Turrets with flak guns, their TerSlash beams with AAAfs, and their BGreens with TerSlashes. Resulting power savings is used to cut down on reactor size. Fighter wing capacity cut in half, from twenty to ten, for two of them. These two ships are, respectively, a giant flying hydroponics pod, and a parts-fabrication craft that can repair battle damage to capital ships or build new fighters, albeit slowly. The third Orion sacrifices all of its fighter complement and becomes a glorified asteroid miner.
4-6 Sobek class corvettes and 4-6 Leviathan cruisers for a Triple-A screen for the big ships.
2-3 Deimos corvettes, primary mobile strikeforce and protection for ships that have to venture away from the main fleet.
3-4 Hippocrates carrying civilians (always nice to have a source of replacement personnel, and hopefully that would make the taskforce truly self-sustaining).
2-3 AWACs, particular class immaterial.
Full fighter complements. 60% interceptors (Horus and Perseus), 20% heavy fighters (Taurets), 10% assault fighters (Aries), 5% bomber (Bakha), 5% stealth (Pegasus and Ptah). Since I have a small force that would get torn to bits by a Sathanas, I don't anticipate doing much offensive fighting against the Shivans. Thus, my fighter force is mostly defensive in nature. The Aries are there to park right outside my cruiser/corvette screen and lob missiles at bombers making runs on them, the Bakhas for their utility in pulling the teeth of large ships.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: FireCrack on November 03, 2004, 06:30:20 pm
NTF Iceni, even if etak doesnt work...


We've lost fire control!!!!!!!!!
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Lightspeed on November 03, 2004, 09:21:18 pm
Thinking about it again (with my superior knowledge) I have come to the conclusion that I (and in fact everyone else in this thread) was making a less than perfect choice.

The ideal ship to be in (in given situation) would be the PVS Scarab. :o

And because i'm evil I won't tell you why I came to that conclusion :p
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on November 03, 2004, 10:58:47 pm
The scarab is teh hotness.  I made a mod where I put 6 firing points for a kayser in the very center above the cocpit... man, good times. Good times.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Swamp_Thing on November 04, 2004, 01:37:52 am
I would use a Bosch Beer cargo crate, as a trojan horse, and wait that i´m picked up by some thirsty shivan, that takes into his nice shiny new ship. You can always depend on good ol´ beer.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Lightspeed on November 04, 2004, 02:55:51 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Raa
The scarab is teh hotness.  I made a mod where I put 6 firing points for a kayser in the very center above the cocpit... man, good times. Good times.


Hehe you just gave me an idea for an.... interesting mini campaign :D
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: GoulMeister on November 04, 2004, 03:22:15 pm
a small fast cruiser, for getting away in, the aeolus.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Deepstar on November 04, 2004, 05:57:29 pm
I think i would command a Deimos or Sobek.

Or i use a Hecate or a Hatshepsut

Then i try to collect all GTSC Mjolnir and build it up near a Jump Node to stop the Shivans and to also have a Rally Point for all GTVA Ships.  I think 25 GTSC Mjolnir can could destroy many Shivans.. but you have also many Bombers and Fighters from the Capital Ships.. If many Ships reach the Rally Point, then you can fight like the Shivan. One great Fleet to overrun all lost GTVA Systems :D
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Taristin on November 04, 2004, 06:59:52 pm
If I was stuck in the middle of nowhere on a ship, like in Voyager, I'd prey it was a Sobek.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Lightspeed on November 04, 2004, 07:28:08 pm
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Originally posted by Deepstar
Then i try to collect all GTSC Mjolnir and build it up near a Jump Node to stop the Shivans and to also have a Rally Point for all GTVA Ships.  I think 25 GTSC Mjolnir can could destroy many Shivans.. but you have also many Bombers and Fighters from the Capital Ships.. If many Ships reach the Rally Point, then you can fight like the Shivan. One great Fleet to overrun all lost GTVA Systems :D


You cannot fight the shivans. ;7
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Post by: Striker on November 04, 2004, 07:44:20 pm
X/BC-303 Prometheus with full X/F-302 Complement. Stargate pwns.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 04, 2004, 07:50:45 pm
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You cannot fight the shivans.


You can  fight the Shivans. You probably won't win, but you can fight them.

Otherwise, the FS games would really suck.
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Post by: Lightspeed on November 04, 2004, 08:01:23 pm
Not if you play as a shivan :rolleyes: :)
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Gregster2k on November 04, 2004, 08:41:20 pm
A GTI Arcadia with two halves of a Ganymede attached to the sides, with BFGreens attached to the Ganymede and tons of fighter beams to protect the meat of the installation, which are four Orions docked permanently into it for extremely heavy propulsion forwards AND backwards, a Setekh wedged into the O-ring in the Arcadia for extra special sensors, and every goddamn fighter and bomber possible stored in the hangars. To provide additional hardpoints where none were available, as many GTSG Mjolnir turrets as we could get our hands on have been hard-fitted into the exterior of the station. The number currently exceeds 120 Mjolnirs.

Finally, the station funnels a huge amount of its power into an ETAK device contained in the GTA Setekh wedged into the little ring in the middle of the Arcadia. This delivers transmission bandwidth on par with the Shivan Comm Node, but is designed for a more...offensive purpose. When active, this ETAK doesn't bother to communicate, it just transmits such ludicrous levels of utter crap into the Shivans' heads throughout the region that it overloads any small Shivan ships within a one light year radius, sending them into a catatonic stupor. Small Shivan ships within 100 meters of the device will self-destruct. Larger ships are affected only by their proximity. At close range, the device can even completely disable a Lucifer class or shut down the main cannons of a Sathanas class for a unknown period of time, long enough to give the winning edge.

In short, the device does permanent and irreversable damage to the electrical systems of Shivan vessels as the stream of incredible power into their communications overloads their ships. (Think The Probe from Star Trek IV and its communications' effect on human vessels. This is the same thing, only its a Super ETAK and it only affects Shivans.) The only disadvantage is that the device itself requires most of the station's power to operate and even some backup from the attached Orions and Ganymede ring. Therefore, when it is active, it is up to the escorts not attached to the "Arcadianought" to do the job.

At low levels, the device easily disables Shivan fighters for easy capture, so that they may be captured, refitted, and turned into Terran versions for the "Arcadianaught's" hangars on the four Orions and the Arcadia itself. The technique has proven so effective that over 1,000 Terran-modified (and ETAK-shielded) SF Mara and SF Dragon class fighters now reside in the secondary hangar of the Arcadia installation. Only a few Shivan bombers have been captured  as of yet, as it seems that the Super ETAK weapon also causes the weapon synthesis modules on the Shivan bombers to go haywire, producing a warhead which detonates immediately, destroying the bomber.

Who needs a Colossus when you can use a modular setup that uses the corpses of your enemy to bolster itself?

The highlight of the installation's work culminated in the successful capture of two Ravana-class destroyers and five Rakshasa-class cruisers, providing the station with Shivan armaments (BFRed, SAAA, and SRed) for the Ganymede defense ring. However, it is widely known that the only reason the Mobile Arcadianought Battlestation works is the ETAK device contained within it. Without this device, the station would be defenseless against the Shivans. Although the Shivans seem to be adapting, we are still able to capture enough of their vessels to increase the ETAK device's output even further by wiring actual Shivan communications systems to the device. With every defense they create, the Mobile Arcadianought Battlestation can kick the crap out of it. Research is being conducted aboard every day to create a super-shield system to protect the installation as it grows in complexity.

My ship of choice? HEH HEH...

Alpha 1 would be flying a Terran version of the Rakshasa, armed with two BFReds on the front and the rest nothing but MISSSSSSILllleSSSS (with a sprinkle of AAA of course.)
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Post by: Taristin on November 04, 2004, 09:40:38 pm
You people skew a simple concept.

One vessel to be stuck with.  You wouldn't be 'stranded' if you had a fleet.
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Post by: Luigi30 on November 04, 2004, 09:53:54 pm
Now see, you wouldn't want something like the Colossus because it would be a logistical nightmare without supplies!

If you were going to survive, you'd want something light and fast. A Fenris or Leviathan maybe.
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Post by: Singh on November 04, 2004, 10:01:33 pm
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Originally posted by Luigi30
Now see, you wouldn't want something like the Colossus because it would be a logistical nightmare without supplies!

If you were going to survive, you'd want something light and fast. A Fenris or Leviathan maybe.


A Leviathan is not 'fast'.

An Aoelus mabey...it's actually usefull against enemy fighters and bombers and those two SGreens up in front ain't to bad either.
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Post by: ChronoReverse on November 04, 2004, 10:09:34 pm
Somehow, this isn't about the GTVA being annihilated and what you'd like to be on to survive anymore.  It's degenerated into "Look at my awesome invincible idea!"
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 04, 2004, 11:19:45 pm
Raa: You're right. You'd be dead, because with one ship you'll run out of supplies. That's why in my version, the Orions have essentially been declawed and converted to produce food and parts to keep the ships working and the crews alive.


Edit: I've figured you out, Lightspeed!

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The ideal ship to be in (in given situation) would be the PVS Scarab.  


The Scarab is unmanned.
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Post by: FireCrack on November 04, 2004, 11:49:18 pm
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Originally posted by Gregster2k
*snip*-



that'd be fun, until all the mjlnors start firing creating immense heat buildup and eradicating all life abord the station and attatched.. stuff


as said before, i'm still with the iceni. It seems bosch would have had the foresight to pu a hydroponics bay and such on the craft. Plus it is fast and heavily armoured
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Post by: Mad Bomber on November 05, 2004, 10:02:34 am
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Originally posted by FireCrack
as said before, i'm still with the iceni. It seems bosch would have had the foresight to pu a hydroponics bay and such on the craft. Plus it is fast and heavily armoured


I would be with the Iceni or a Saphah if it had a fighterbay. But it doesn't. So my money's on the Victor.
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Post by: Marauder on November 05, 2004, 12:30:55 pm
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Originally posted by redsniper
I would just type 'arrrrwalktheplank' and kill Shivans from the Volition Bravos, since it's practically invincible.


I very strongly agree with that!
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Post by: TrashMan on November 05, 2004, 04:11:24 pm
That one doesnt count!

You know, it doesnt really matter which ship it is...Alpha 1 can fly a trash bin and still kick the Shivans ass...

But if I had to choose.. I would say the SDF-1 Macross!LOL
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Post by: Kie99 on November 05, 2004, 04:54:41 pm
I only ask for one captured ship with a solar panel and farm(for food)

The GTSD Lucifer
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Post by: FireCrack on November 05, 2004, 05:45:11 pm
mabye he GTD hades? with a bunch of LRBgreens and a sleath sheild
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 05, 2004, 07:38:06 pm
The SDF-1 sounds good to me...since it's completely self-sustaining, and anybody who bothers you too much...can we say "Main Gun"?

Die, juggernaut fleet, die...
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Post by: Bri_Dog on November 05, 2004, 08:36:14 pm
An Orion with it's fighter wings, plus 2 Diemos and 4 Aeolous for escort duty.
Title: Now Now
Post by: Getter Robo G on November 05, 2004, 09:30:29 pm
But you guys should keep it FS2 Oriented...
(though I admit SDF-1 was Uber - I posted pics at spacebattles.com a few months ago. SDF-1 vs shivans vs Fed Task Force) Cross universe stuff gets too unbalanced. There is no common tech base to be acurate.

   I pick a Hecate as Command ship, a few Typhoons and Sobeks, and their fighter compliments. Vasudans may smell like fish , but I respect their tech :D
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Post by: TrashMan on November 06, 2004, 09:25:28 am
You wouldn't happen to have a direct link to those pics?
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Post by: Mad Bomber on November 06, 2004, 09:28:00 am
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Originally posted by Bri_Dog
An Orion with it's fighter wings, plus 2 Diemos and 4 Aeolous for escort duty.


Good luck getting the only 4 remaining Aeoluses, and enough parts to keep those expensive puppies going. All the rest were wiped out in the course of the FS2 Main Campaign, or shortly before (NTF), and there aren't many parts for em lying about.

(MB p1mps GTC Peleus -- easier to maintain, with little to no loss of antifighter effectiveness, and minimal loss of speed. Only major drawback is a larger target and half the anticap power.)
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Post by: Fergus on November 06, 2004, 10:02:48 am
The GVC Mycerinus, because it can never die, never (checks mission plans).....oh wait, I retract my last statement.
Terran Mara and supplies (I'd want to see whats behind that third Knossos-probably a pair of Freders arguing"but its not canon", "so what, it looks sooooo cool", "Oh what do you know", "I made the coolest mission in Freespace 2", "oh be quite, hey whats that?")
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Post by: Gregster2k on November 06, 2004, 07:13:16 pm
LOL

Okay fine, I'll get more realistic: I personally would go land on some planet somewhere in the middle of nowhere that supports life and rebuild society ... without space travel.

In other words, go back to 21st century life.

Live like we do today...in a future full of Dem Shivans.

And if i DIDNT have that option?

Why, a Satis, of course.
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Post by: FireCrack on November 06, 2004, 08:44:42 pm
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Originally posted by Mad Bomber


Good luck getting the only 4 remaining Aeoluses, and enough parts to keep those expensive puppies going. All the rest were wiped out in the course of the FS2 Main Campaign, or shortly before (NTF), and there aren't many parts for em lying about.


awesome, somoeone counted!

Though you never know if the NTF was producing aeouleses and the GTVA only purchased a dozen (or was it two dozen?)
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 07, 2004, 12:01:55 am
Ehh...we counted Aeoluses in another thread, and came to the conclusion that we only saw thirteen in the game that can be proven to be Aeoluses, and only five of those were definitely destroyed.

The "cruiser" briefing icon means nothing, sorry folks. And all the GTVA ships save the Vigilant can be saved by a good player, so they don't necessarily die.
Title: GTVA-dismantled..you have to survive
Post by: Mad Bomber on November 07, 2004, 08:36:52 am
Harr! Chew on this!

GTC Vigilant: Destroyed
GTC Warwick: Unknown after SM2-04
GTC Agrippa: Unknown after SM3-05
GTC Stalwart: Presumably destroyed in the supernova
GTC Templar: Depends on how well you do
GTC Malta: Depends on how well you do
GTC Ertanax: Depends on how well you do
GTC Sparta: Destroyed by supernova
NTC Alexandria: Let's assume for argument's sake that it was an Aeolus -- a Fenris would have been shredded and a Leviathan wouldn't have been fast enough to make it through the portal. So there.
NTC Liberty: Destroyed
NTC Epigoni: Destroyed
NTC Loyola: Destroyed
NTC Mylae: Destroyed
NTC Hellespont: Destroyed
NTC Saharan: Destroyed
NTC Retribution: Presumably destroyed in Deneb
NTC Righteous: Destroyed
NTC Vindication: Presumably destroyed in Deneb
NTC Vengeance: Destroyed

I would have put the NTC Rapier up there but I'm not sure if it was identified as an Aeolus in canon, or whether I'm just remembering the Pandora's Box campaign.

Maybe the NTF did make its own Aeoluses. Doesn't mean the GTVA thought it was cost-effective to restart production. I still say the Aeolus is rare.