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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Bushwacker on April 12, 2001, 08:41:00 pm
Well?  I for one would love to see the Excalibur from B5: Crusade.  Here's a picture so you know what it looks like:
 (http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/files/images/browse/crusade.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Martinus on April 12, 2001, 09:17:00 pm
'tis quite a nice model, pity the show was cut off. It had a great deal of potential.

Personally I'm going to start working on the ship I'd most like to see in FS. Spaceman Spiff's fighter.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Gotta get my computer up and running again though. So many things to do and so little time.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Bushwacker on April 12, 2001, 09:26:00 pm
It may not be as dead as you think.  Sci-Fi Channel is running the episodes in the intended chronological order.  If the ratings are good, J. Michael Straczynski says that they *MAY* resume filming the series.  A chronology is available at Scifi's Crusade ("http://www.scifi.com/crusade") web page.  There may be hope yet...

Now, what other ship(s) would totally r0><0r in FS?
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Martinus on April 12, 2001, 09:37:00 pm
Now that's excellent news.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: NeoHunter on April 13, 2001, 01:26:00 am
Going a bit off topic here are we now, guys?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, I would like to fly along side any capital ship I design.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Sushi on April 13, 2001, 01:49:00 am
SuperStarDestroyer.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: NeoHunter on April 13, 2001, 06:25:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Sushi:
SuperStarDestroyer.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

That's overkill. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I want a ship with the Defense matrix Mark III. Actually, I want all the Babylon 5 ships.

Before you guys start referring me to the Babylon Project for FreeSpace, I just want to say I know about it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)


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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Apothess on April 13, 2001, 12:12:00 pm
I'd love to see Spaceball 1 from Spaceballs, think its a cool ship but its also a Transformer!
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Martinus on April 13, 2001, 01:02:00 pm
I once tried to build a model of Spaceball 1 for XWvT I couldn't find enough reference material.

As for super star destroyers it shouldn't be too hard to "port" the XWA model.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fineus on April 13, 2001, 04:20:00 pm
The YT-2000 from X-Wing Alliance.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Bushwacker on April 14, 2001, 12:07:00 am
I'm sure we can scrounge up enough data on OPT files to easily port them into a convertable format.  The only difference is that the textures AND the geometric data are all crammed into one file.  The geo data with the right tools is exportable into DXF files and textures into PCX format (might be BMP, don't quote me on this), if memory serves me right.

So, I guess this could serve as the general census on what ship will be a "must have" for modders of all ages?
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Warlock on April 14, 2001, 10:40:00 am
Two things

1: B5
 I did some looking around the net the other night after watching Crusade, what I found was lovely  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Not only is JMS making the New Rangrs based movie, but the planning is for it to be the third series of the b5 saga  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

2: Star Wars ships
 If you can texture them I can make ANY ship from XWA into POF you want  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: The Claw on April 14, 2001, 02:40:00 pm
I have only seen a few Babylon 5's, and two episodes of Crusade (the one with the ancient race dissecting every body that lands on their planet and the one with the Well of Forever... i think that's the name of it). It is a brilliant series, although I have heard it's ended (?) I dunno cause I've only seen a couple...
Anyways, back on track, I would personally love to see either Red Dwarf, Starbug or BlueMidget in FS2... although the Rogue Simulants battle cruiser could be cool too...

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Bushwacker on April 14, 2001, 11:14:00 pm
Like I said, Warlock, the skins are in pcx or bmp (I don't remember which) in the OPT file, so you just need to extract them.  I remember seeing this in one of the OPT Project tutorials a while back.  The trick is finding a program that'll extract the skins.  Might as well start nosing around @ Xwingalliance.net...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Warlock on April 14, 2001, 11:45:00 pm
Like I said,..I can get it ALL,..someone still has to texture with the BMPs I extract  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Remember the ONLY OPT converter out converts to DFX format, which wipes the entire texturing data.

Unless xwa.net released something new lately of course  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Martinus on April 15, 2001, 01:07:00 am
Don't think XWL have any new conversion tools. They've had problems with changing to a new server and are being hosted temporarily on another server in the meantime.

You may be able to convert models for FS but it would be a lengthy procedure due to the nature of the .opt files (model data, hardpoints, texs, etc. amalgamated into one file). If you're really committed to this you might want to talk to the guys at the XWA update project. They're redoing all of the models to a damn fine standard. Their models would be excellent.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Starwing on April 16, 2001, 05:03:00 am
I don't think the XWAUP models would work within the Freespace 2 engine, those ships have over 1000 faces, and capships have no face restriction at all.

And yes, ACE_dxf is the only tool that can convert models to a common 3D file format, to dxf. But ACE has problems with some models, i.e. I tried to convert the Repair Yard, but I got a complete mess.
But once you have a model in dxf format it's not harder to convert them to pof then it is with a new model. ACE also extracts the textures from the model and saves them as 256 color BMPs in an extra directory.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Warlock on April 16, 2001, 05:50:00 am
Yup I've already got most of the stations converted and tested, just I'm not worth a **** at texturing  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

But the other thing with converting the XWA ships is simply most of the stock ones are so low in detail it's not really worth the trouble.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: NeoHunter on April 16, 2001, 06:49:00 am
Actually, I wouldn't mind flying a TIE Defender. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Warlock on April 17, 2001, 10:38:00 am
Well bushy last night I got screwing around and I downloaded 2 versions of the victory Class

one in lightwave, flaw, it's in multiple parts and without lightwave I can't access the scene file that has it all palced out right

the other, MAX file that enjoys crashing my 3d studio r3 every single time I try to load it.

Still would be nice to either render some pretty pics OR better yet if it's low enough polys to slap into fs2    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)


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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Akira on April 18, 2001, 02:05:00 am
i'd love to see an Omega Class destroyer for Freespace 2  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) gotta love that ship hehe

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Jabu on April 18, 2001, 03:40:00 am
As all the B5 ships are already in the making, I'd like to see the Lexx  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

And all SW ships as well.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Woomeister on April 18, 2001, 04:34:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Jabu:
I'd like to see the Lexx   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

So would I, but it's weapon would be a problem. The insect fighters wouldn't be though  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Kazan on April 18, 2001, 11:55:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Akira:
i'd love to see an Omega Class destroyer for Freespace 2   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) gotta love that ship hehe

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: morris13 on April 19, 2001, 10:55:00 am
What about the Gunstar from the Last Starfighter? I know most of you guys are too young to remember that movie (=P) but the Gunstar ruled. It'd have to be a bomber, I spose, because its got five gun turrets plus four fixed gunpods plus buttloads of missiles =)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Martinus on April 19, 2001, 08:22:00 pm
Gunstar? Way ahead of you on that one but my model would require some major work to get it low enough poly to use in the game. Also it's worth considering that the Gunstars where designed for two persons, the navigator and the gunner. I think someone over at the lancers reactor might have built one for SL.

What a great movie.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Warlock on April 19, 2001, 11:04:00 pm
yea Lancer's Reactor has one,..i've got the model for it. But to be honest,..it's not "all that"

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


Sides getting a gunstar's speical to work in fs2 would be,....hell  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Ypoknons on April 20, 2001, 07:56:00 pm
XWAU base models have under 1,000 faces - what are you talking about!?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Most of them are in the 500-700 range if I remember right. Problem is, Darksaber is extremely protective of his work, so that's a big bad problem.

But yes, the Dxf barrier is a problem. Decoy once gave Force 3ds TIE interceptor (XWAU), so I guess I'll see what I can do.

Homeworld-Freespace 2 conversions work pretty well. I've managed to convert a Naboo Fighter for my friend from the Ep1 MOD to Freespace 2, and it works just fine. The problem is the docking animations and the shields are crap, but that's just my problem.

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Post by: Starwing on April 21, 2001, 03:55:00 am
Oops, well it's a while since I looked at the ir site. However they are able to seriously bug the XWA engine even at "good" (if you assume a celeron 500, 128 MB, TNT2 Ultra as good, what it surely is for a game as old as XWA) computers, so I'm not sure how FS2 could handle them.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: morris13 on April 22, 2001, 01:04:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Warlock:
yea Lancer's Reactor has one,..i've got the model for it. But to be honest,..it's not "all that"
Sides getting a gunstar's speical to work in fs2 would be,....hell   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I'd be curious to see the model, if you'd be willing to send it to me. I may wind up building one of my own, model construction is the one thing I CAN do quite well at this point, but it'd be interesting to see regardless. My email is [email protected] if you wanna share it with me.
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Post by: Setekh on April 23, 2001, 03:16:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Ypoknons:
Hey, what!? I do get my acient status? Gues that makes me 14 year old brag.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

That's what you get for complaining in your siggy.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Post by: LAW ENFORCER on August 30, 2001, 07:19:00 pm
Year the last starfighter - you just reminded me of that. That was cool, I think the graphics were well good but It was a while ago (hey mabye FS and FS2 was just a test to find pilots for a massive space fight agansit the shivans???)
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Post by: Unidan on August 30, 2001, 07:44:00 pm
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Post by: Slasher on August 30, 2001, 07:44:00 pm
One of two ships I'd like to see are an Imperial-class Mark II Star Destroyer.  Think of how cool that thing would be if you kept just a few of it's dozens of turbolasers and ion cannons and replaced the rest with flak batteries, AAAfs, and capship weight beam cannons and scrapped it's TIE Fighter complement in favor of GTVA craft.

The second ship would be the Earthforce Omega-class destroyer from Babylon 5, of course.  Not quite as flashy as some of the others mentioned here, but it looks cool and has some nice armaments to boot.

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Post by: Thorn on August 30, 2001, 07:51:00 pm
Defiant and DS9....

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Post by: Eishtmo on August 30, 2001, 10:49:00 pm
Just once I want to see my Victorious in combat.  That would be a thrill.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: aldo_14 on August 31, 2001, 04:20:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Akira:
i'd love to see an Omega Class destroyer for Freespace 2   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) gotta love that ship hehe


I sorta nicked that design for the Rapier (well the front)... personally i have 2 projects planned for after the campaign... the Button Moon rocket  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) and the RAF SPitfrie (with propeller) - had a perfect mesh a while ago but deleted because i couldn't texture it then.

I'm beginning to come up with a lot of good ideas for ships now (had modders block before) -  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Av0uu on August 31, 2001, 06:14:00 pm
This probably won't be popular, but any of the space stations from Tachyon the Fringe, plus the cpitals.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on August 31, 2001, 06:25:00 pm
Those stations were cool but Caps were far too powerful for their own good! I wanted to sit next to a cap ship and strip it of its guns - got close guns fired shields colapsed hull 10% a big warnning flashing on screen, then I died...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on August 31, 2001, 06:35:00 pm
I want to see the protoss carrier and his small interceptors.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on August 31, 2001, 06:59:00 pm
'his'? most people refer to vessels as 'she' but that seems to be the way the wind is blowing today  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Terran battle-cruiser could easily take out that carrier! And wraiths are much betetr!
"join the waiting off jorders" thats what I hear but it don't make sense???
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Red5 on August 31, 2001, 07:54:00 pm
 I'd like to see a NASA space shuttle model or something similar.  I think id be neat for a campaign to find wreckage or an intact derelict early space shuttle maybe hit by shivans hundreds of years ago!!


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Post by: Shrike on August 31, 2001, 08:21:00 pm
The Guillotine-class Advanced Destroyer.  That thing is a beauty.
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Post by: Setekh on September 01, 2001, 12:01:00 am
I wanna see that thing. Got some pics?
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Post by: Shrike on September 01, 2001, 12:24:00 am
Ta-da!
  (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/iw2/guide/ships/guillotine.jpg)  
  (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/iw2/dreadnought2.jpg)  

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Post by: Setekh on September 01, 2001, 12:28:00 am
Oh, that Guillotine destroyer.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Damn that is a nice ship.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on September 01, 2001, 06:33:00 am
 
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
'his'? most people refer to vessels as 'she' but that seems to be the way the wind is blowing today   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Terran battle-cruiser could easily take out that carrier! And wraiths are much betetr!
"join the waiting off jorders" thats what I hear but it don't make sense???

oups  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Don't care, I prefer the carrier's design  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: aldo_14 on September 01, 2001, 07:32:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Red5:
I'd like to see a NASA space shuttle model or something similar.  I think id be neat for a campaign to find wreckage or an intact derelict early space shuttle maybe hit by shivans hundreds of years ago!!

Voyager space probe.....  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I think TS1 came with a space shuttle model in it... not sure though.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: The Claw on September 01, 2001, 08:25:00 am
 I prefer the Navy Nova cruisers, even though I've never really seen them fight they look really cool  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Red5 on September 01, 2001, 02:54:00 pm
 I think Capn Nick Brown has an old NASA vehicle modded for use in campaigns, itd be neat to find one of those floating in a nebula.  How i would tie it in with a story i have no idea tho  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: jonskowitz on September 01, 2001, 10:28:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
'his'? most people refer to vessels as 'she' but that seems to be the way the wind is blowing today   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

It depends on who is doing the talking.  I know that Russians refer to ships as 'he'.  Don't quote me but I've also seen some evidence that Germans do (or rather did in the 1940's, you should see 'Das Boot' sometime, great flick).

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Post by: jonskowitz on September 01, 2001, 10:30:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
I want to see the protoss carrier and his small interceptors.

Ditto
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Bishop Gantry on September 02, 2001, 01:36:00 pm
I  would like to see the
Terran Battlecruiser
Carrier
Valkyrie
Wraith
Scout
Corsair

 from the game Starcraft
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: ^Graff on September 02, 2001, 05:27:00 pm
E-wing
A-wing
Corellian Gunship(would put the Aeolus to shame)
Bulwark Battlecruiser

Dervish and Firelance frigates from Homeworld
Somtaaw, Kushan, and Taidan Destroyers,
Somtaaw Dreadnought
Taidan Cruiser
Taidan interceptor
Both Heavy defenders

HMS Star Knight and modified HMS Fearless

Jock's UNATCO Black Helicopter

YF-23

WCP's Piranah
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on September 02, 2001, 05:51:00 pm
You have about as much chance of seeing all of them as I have of finishing a bad model (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) I mean getting my MOD finnished with in a month!
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Pegasus V on September 03, 2001, 07:09:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Red5:
I think Capn Nick Brown has an old NASA vehicle modded for use in campaigns, itd be neat to find one of those floating in a nebula.  How i would tie it in with a story i have no idea tho   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I made an Aries IV model, one of the first manned probes sent to Mars in the 2070's. (I'm Captain Nick Brown by the way, I think it's about time I had a callsign, so here it is.)

I'd love to see a Goa'uld Death Glider. Or a Goa'uld Capital ship (similar to a pyramid, but of course with the FTL device thing attached).
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: DragonClaw on September 03, 2001, 07:53:00 pm
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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Pegasus V on September 03, 2001, 08:34:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
Your mom   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)


Huh?
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: YodaSean on September 04, 2001, 04:10:00 pm
I would like to see a TIE-Interceptor

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: drako on September 05, 2001, 04:22:00 pm
I would like to see the Satellite of Love.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Setekh on September 06, 2001, 03:00:00 am
Err... yeh, welcome Drako.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fedaykin on September 14, 2001, 07:04:00 am
I'd love to see a Cylon Basestar.

I've already got the Battlestar, Viper and Raider. They are a lot of fun in FS2.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 15, 2001, 11:58:00 am
I'd like to see the PyroGX from Descent in FS2.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  Sliding ability and all.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on September 17, 2001, 06:06:00 am
 
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
I'd like to see the PyroGX from Descent in FS2.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  Sliding ability and all.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Sometimes I want to scream, yell and all.
I made all the pyro in fs2 (apart from the black one, but it takes 3 seconds to make a map black). So you have: Pyro GX, GL, Magnum and Phoenix. I know the GL and the Magnum have been put for D/l by Rampagen do a search in the modding forum. All models have no lod, debris or thruster flames, and the GX has been made from scratch (the D1/2 model sucked)

Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: aldo_14 on September 17, 2001, 02:19:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:

Sometimes I want to scream, yell and all.
I made all the pyro in fs2 (apart from the black one, but it takes 3 seconds to make a map black). So you have: Pyro GX, GL, Magnum and Phoenix. I know the GL and the Magnum have been put for D/l by Rampagen do a search in the modding forum. All models have no lod, debris or thruster flames, and the GX has been made from scratch (the D1/2 model sucked)


sliding works with the number pad and the 'slide' values set above zero, doesn't it?

(I'm sure i read this somewhere on hLP)

Just as all the Shivan fighters/bombers seem to have vertical/horizontal speed values set in the tbls....
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on September 17, 2001, 03:37:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
sliding works with the number pad and the 'slide' values set above zero, doesn't it?

(I'm sure i read this somewhere on hLP)

Just as all the Shivan fighters/bombers seem to have vertical/horizontal speed values set in the tbls....

yes. and the commands are 1, 3, enter and plus on the numpad
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Setekh on September 21, 2001, 08:38:00 am
 
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
I'd like to see the PyroGX from Descent in FS2.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  Sliding ability and all.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Yeah, wake up dude. Venom made a killer one.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: KillMeNow on September 22, 2001, 05:44:00 pm
i want to see an asguard mothership - perhaps even the asguard o'neil that they had to sacrifice to stop the replicators

also super star destroyer -  hmmmm perhaps a soveriegn class federation starship - hmmm battlestar galactica - this has been done though alrady but is a cool ship none the less - and someone mentioned the cylon base star its partically done too hmmm let me find the link so you can check out for yourself
-  http://underworld.fortunecity.com/pacman/106/ ("http://underworld.fortunecity.com/pacman/106/")  -
think thats is hmmmmmm - i done an isd mark 2 not perfect but is pretty cool but only basically textured - but the 80 or so turbo lasers rock hehe - it took down a sathanus - although it couldn't wnhen attacking from the front but when flanking it it removed it pretty damn quick - things like ravana and demons fell in seconds

fghter the tie defneder rules

hmmmm a culture ROU would be cool but i dont know what the look liek but talk aobut firepower

so many ships not enough modelers
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Vertigo1 on September 22, 2001, 09:26:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Yeah, wake up dude. Venom made a killer one.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Sorry.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  My life doesn't revolve around searching for Freespace2 mods.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)  This is the first I've ever heard of it.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Kitsune on October 01, 2001, 06:00:00 pm
As for the protoss carrier, I've got one started in 3ds.  I've got the front 'prongs' looking alright (At least as well as I can from the limited footage of the thing.  The in-game models are contradictory.)

But I've given up on it, if anyone else wants to try to finish it be my guest.
I've got several game snap shots from fighting and cinematics too.

Here's what I have so far. :/
 (http://www.furnation.com/corwyn/mecha/protcarrier1.jpg)

 (http://www.furnation.com/corwyn/mecha/protcarrier2.jpg)

Email me if you want to finish it.
I figure it would have around 20 turrets total, and a shield as well (Have to!)
Naturally it wouldn't have extra weapons in SC due to game balance.
Plus two fighterbays, one on either side for fast dispatch/withdraw of fighters.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 02, 2001, 10:39:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
yes. and the commands are 1, 3, enter and plus on the numpad


I think I used the slide values for a fighter a while ago, but I'll be damned if i can remember which one.... so if anyones got some of my mods, have a go  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: SoC on October 02, 2001, 02:44:00 pm
For those Descenters who play FS (like myself :P)
I'd like to see a Pyro-GX and maybe some ships from D3

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 02, 2001, 04:18:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by SoC:
For those Descenters who play FS (like myself :P)
I'd like to see a Pyro-GX and maybe some ships from D3


hmmmmmmmmfffffffffffffffffffff......

Ok, I don't care about checking this, I'm sure lots of mpics are gone but anyway:
 http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum1/HTML/000203.html ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum1/HTML/000203.html")



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Post by: phreak on October 02, 2001, 05:49:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by The Claw:
I prefer the Navy Nova cruisers, even though I've never really seen them fight they look really cool   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


you need an any AM weapon to kill them.

Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Setekh on October 02, 2001, 05:58:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
 hmmmmmmmmfffffffffffffffffffff......

Ok, I don't care about checking this, I'm sure lots of mpics are gone but anyway:
 http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum1/HTML/000203.html ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum1/HTML/000203.html")

I share your pain - this must be the fifth time someone's asked for this after the sucker's been created  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 02, 2001, 06:02:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
I share your pain - this must be the fifth time someone's asked for this after the sucker's been created   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

yeah, and nobody cared when I said it was being done, then...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Setekh on October 02, 2001, 06:08:00 pm
 www.3dap.com/hlp ("http://www.3dap.com/hlp")

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 02, 2001, 06:51:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
www.3dap.com/hlp ("http://www.3dap.com/hlp")

  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

hmm, now I'm annoyed, since it's not available for d/l anywhere now lol
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: ZylonBane on October 14, 2001, 09:43:00 pm
 (http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/heavymetal/headstill.jpg)

'Nuff said.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Stryke 9 on October 14, 2001, 11:36:00 pm
Hmmm... NASA shuttle I have premade somewhere and could extract... but it's made for renders and thus likely has a bajillion polys. email me and let me know why I should be interested, and I'll extract a 100% realistic full-size NASA ship. Protoss carrier even I could do... although it would take me a month and you'd never see it except in render form, because I have revived my old hate for TS...
Personally I'd like to see my Titan get done WHEN I FRIGGIN' ASK FOR IT TO BE!!! And for movie fic I'd like... oh, I don't know... one of those anime cruisers with the billion little tubes and turrets and other less definable things... or the E2150 Escape Craft- the LC one was SCHOVEET!
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Neon on October 17, 2001, 03:34:00 am
I would love to see the dropship of Starship Troopers (Series, the one in the movie sucks  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) ), it would be really cool for planet assault missions  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: ^Graff on October 17, 2001, 10:10:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Neon:
I would love to see the dropship of Starship Troopers (Series, the one in the movie sucks   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) ), it would be really cool for planet assault missions   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Who thinks that a Starship Troopers mod would be great for Red Faction?

Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 17, 2001, 10:24:00 am
 
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Originally posted by ^Graff:
Who thinks that a Starship Troopers mod would be great for Red Faction?


I do, and I can imagine a Tanker bug pumping out of the ground with the geomod  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Neon on October 18, 2001, 03:31:00 am
Yeah, and opening lots of holes on those bugs  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif), oh, and throwing grenades to the mouth of some tankers.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 18, 2001, 05:23:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Neon:
Yeah, and opening lots of holes on those bugs   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif), oh, and throwing grenades to the mouth of some tankers.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

too bad the geomod doesn't apply to character models :þ
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Neon on October 18, 2001, 11:20:00 am
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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: aldo_14 on October 18, 2001, 01:03:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Neon:
I would love to see the dropship of Starship Troopers (Series, the one in the movie sucks   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) ), it would be really cool for planet assault missions   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I think I was going to make a varient of that, but i couldn't find any pictures,....
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Thorn on October 18, 2001, 02:14:00 pm
The dropships, jumpships and/or aerotech fighters from the Mechwarrior series would be kinda cool to see..
I'm just gonna link the images, theres quite a few.
 http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/Launch.jpg ("http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/Launch.jpg")
 http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/seidlitz1.jpg ("http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/seidlitz1.jpg")
 http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/union2.jpg ("http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/union2.jpg")
 http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/csr_v12.jpg ("http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/csr_v12.jpg")
 http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/corsair2.jpg ("http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/corsair2.jpg")
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Setekh on October 19, 2001, 06:49:00 am
 
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Originally posted by ^Graff:
Who thinks that a Starship Troopers mod would be great for Red Faction?

Too many red shirts, the engine would never be able to handle it... *sound sof bones being crushed in the background*  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Neon on October 19, 2001, 01:50:00 pm
I think it's a great ideia...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Boct1584 on October 23, 2001, 04:38:00 pm
The NX-01 Enterprise from Star Trek: Enterprise. That ship looks totally kick-*** .

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: sergeantpingree on October 24, 2001, 01:58:00 pm
Hey, how 'bout the delta flyer from star trek voyager!
It kinda looks like the pegasus stealth fighter from FS2!


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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: diamondgeezer on October 25, 2001, 08:21:00 am
Wan' get me a Lexx. That'd be a big ole gun on the gob end...

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Reptile on October 27, 2001, 02:24:00 pm
I find it odd no one has yet asked for the Andromeda and her fighters... 1301 meters of pure glory and firepower

As for star trek voyager fans wanting ships.. check out http://:vv8.jetc.org ("http://:vv8.jetc.org")  .. some new baddies there.. think you may like em  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: ZylonBane on October 28, 2001, 12:37:00 pm
Nothing odd about it... the Andromeda is a freaky [email protected] ship.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Thorn on October 28, 2001, 12:38:00 pm
 (http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/csr_v12.jpg)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on October 28, 2001, 02:28:00 pm
thorn, what is that ugly carrot looking ship? ( MW I think, but not sure).
oh: I don't think the andromeda is that ugly...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Thorn on October 28, 2001, 02:33:00 pm
Kuritan Aerotech fighter..
Not meant to be pretty, meant to pound the crap out of 'mechs..
Personally I think the Ursa is worse looking..
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fulgrymm on October 28, 2001, 02:58:00 pm
 
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Kuritan Aerotech fighter..
Not meant to be pretty, meant to pound the crap out of 'mechs..
Yeah. I think one's called something like the V-12 Corsair, if I remember correctly.
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Thorn on October 28, 2001, 03:07:00 pm
Yeah, thats the one...
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Alikchi on October 28, 2001, 03:14:00 pm
Mmm...Battletech.

The AE-183 Alikchi ownz j00.
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Post by: jonskowitz on October 28, 2001, 06:15:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Thorn:
 (http://members.toast.net/tgreer/gallery/csr_v12.jpg)  

Ummm... Thorn... have you ever stopped to think about what the nose on that thing looks like?

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Thorn on October 28, 2001, 06:27:00 pm
Yes, I have. And it doesnt look a damn thing like it!
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Akrovah on November 02, 2001, 12:55:00 am
Well, alot of the greats have been covered alrady, including the Soveriegn Class From Star Trek (Enterprise E if you don;t know what that is.) Defiant, Red Dwarf, Gunstar, Alot of Star wars ships, Stuff from Babylon 5 (but i didn't see a mention of the White Star, though i probably just missed it.), and alot of robotech stuff has already been made.

But, i would like to see, first some stuff from the later Robotech wars, and an honest to god model of the SDF-1, not the reskined orion i always find. And mostly, The TCS Tiger's Claw, TCS Concordia, and the Dragon Fighter from Wing Commander. (Games not blasfimous movie.)

And, i also have a question about model building that was breifly hinted on earlier.
Does anyone know of a Poly limit for Fighters and Cap Ships in FS2?

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: phreak on November 02, 2001, 10:48:00 pm
 (http://www.edgeofchaos.net/inter_eng/img/09/big-shots/03.jpg)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: diamondgeezer on November 09, 2001, 10:06:00 pm
Battle Fleet Gothic stuff, innnit? Huge old warships covered in spiky bits with row after row of cannon, and hangers the size of my ego. Mint!
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Grey Wolf on November 09, 2001, 11:42:00 pm
Defiant?
I'm working on it.
Galaxy?
I'm working on it.
Miranda?
I'm working on it.
Constitution?
Dumped mine, it sucked.
Sovereign?
Aaarggghhhh! (heart attack after thinking of all the detail on that ship)

Note: Every time I said "I'm working on it" means it's a WIP.

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Post by: Setekh on November 10, 2001, 02:31:00 am
 
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Originally posted by PhReAk:
 (http://www.edgeofchaos.net/inter_eng/img/09/big-shots/03.jpg)  

Nice ship...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Kitsune on November 10, 2001, 04:32:00 am
For those who use 3ds max 3 or greater, there are alot of high-poly Star Trek meshes out there.

And I do mean high poly count!
(Deep Space Nine, 570,640!  Half a f'ing million!)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
But very very detailed.
 http://devil.beyond.net.au/meshes_startrek/ ("http://devil.beyond.net.au/meshes_startrek/")



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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Akira on November 14, 2001, 11:39:00 pm
I would like to see an Asgard attack ship modded into FS  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) btw that ship is from Stargate SG1  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: aldo_14 on November 15, 2001, 06:29:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Akrovah:

And, i also have a question about model building that was breifly hinted on earlier.
Does anyone know of a Poly limit for Fighters and Cap Ships in FS2?

850 polys per sub-object, i believe a max limit of 5000.


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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Nico on November 15, 2001, 11:15:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Akira:
I would like to see an Asgard attack ship modded into FS   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) btw that ship is from Stargate SG1   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


pic?

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Post by: aldo_14 on November 15, 2001, 11:54:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
pic?


Looks like a hammer i think. (hammer of thor)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Inquisitor on November 15, 2001, 01:01:00 pm
There is a btech model archive (cob and DXF) on sarna.net. Including the Corsair.

OT: I know some folks who are doing an aerotech mod using the tribes 2 (torque) engine. So if anyone wants to see them, it's a stay tuned  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Or email me if you have modelling talent  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Tar-Palantir on November 19, 2001, 02:17:00 pm
I'd love to see the fighter craft used in DS9 (and by the Maquis (sp?)). I thought that looked cool.

[This message has been edited by Tar-Palantir (edited 11-19-2001).]
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fulgrymm on November 19, 2001, 02:26:00 pm
What about the 'Sulaco' from the Aliens film?
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Alikchi on November 19, 2001, 04:22:00 pm
Ehh..maybe. I'd like to see the Marines dropship..it was called uh..darn I can't find my book. Anyways, it's a kickmonkey ship
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Star-Epock on November 19, 2001, 07:06:00 pm
All the Moo2 ships  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fulgrymm on November 20, 2001, 07:21:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Alikchi:
Ehh..maybe. I'd like to see the Marines dropship..it was called uh..darn I can't find my book. Anyways, it's a kickmonkey ship

Think its called something like the Cheyenne (can't remember the model number). Would make a good bomber.

Anyway, I mentioned the Sulaco because I've got a basic hull for it already made up. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
 
Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Tar-Palantir on November 20, 2001, 10:36:00 am
I'd also love to see a Manticore with the primary and secondary banks the way round they are in the FMV's.

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Title: What ship would you most want modded into FS?
Post by: Fulgrymm on November 20, 2001, 01:48:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Tar-Palantir:
I'd also love to see a Manticore with the primary and secondary banks the way round they are in the FMV's.


Thats dead easy.