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Title: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Rictor on July 15, 2006, 12:15:33 pm
OK, some great and yet slighty wierd news out of Valve this week. Team Fortress 2, a serious contender for the Vaporware Champion is...on it's way. Apparently, it will be released along with Half-Life 2: Episode 2, which should be available in (very roughly) six months or so.

And now the wierd bit. It's not going to be a gritty war-themed squad shooter. or anything like that Instead, they've chosen to take it in a shall we say bold direction. Apparently, the theme is something along the lines of cell-shaded 60's spy thing, ala Austin Powers or the NOLF games.

Not only am I surprised that the game is actually being developed, but I am now doubly surprised at the unconventional theme of the game, though I applaud their initiative and hopefully it works out for the best.

(http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/ve3d/image/article/718/718933/team-fortress-2-image-20060714051128796.jpg)

Here's the press release, which also announces another, previously unknown game/mod/whatever, and plans to port all the HL2 content to the 360 and PS3.

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Valve, developer of the blockbuster series Half-Life and Counter-Strike, unveiled Team Fortress 2 and Portal, two new games to be included in its next release, Half-Life 2: Episode Two. In addition, the studio announced its plans to deliver these products, plus enhanced versions of Half-Life 2 and Episode One, in one tremendous package for the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

"By evolving our development process to an episodic approach, we're able to reduce risk from things such as schedule and funding and invest more in new types of gameplay," said Gabe Newell, president and co-founder of Valve. "This allows us to produce innovative titles such as Portal and Team Fortress 2 and deliver them in a timely fashion to customers along with Episode Two."

Episode Two advances the 16-million unit selling franchise, as Valve's trilogy of episodic single player releases continues the award-winning story of Half-Life 2. Armed with new weaponry and vehicles, Dr. Gordon Freeman must race through a countryside riddled with an increasingly fierce Combine threat.

Team Fortress 2, an all-new version of the title that spawned team based multiplayer action games, features the most advanced graphics of any Source-based game released to date. Players choose from a range of unique character classes such as medic, spy, sniper, or engineer and must work together to complete a variety of tactical objectives.

Portal is a new type of single player game that changes how players approach, manipulate, and surmise the possibilities in a given environment in a manner similar to how the Gravity Gun changed our approach to how an object may be leveraged in any given situation.

Team Fortress 2 and Portal will be included with all retail and Steam versions of Episode Two for the PC. In addition, these products plus Half-Life 2 and Episode One will be available in one tremendous offering for the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. New videos from Episode Two, Portal, and Team Fortress 2 will be released next week.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Fury on July 15, 2006, 01:03:23 pm
Hey, that's neat. Kudos to Valve. :)
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Roanoke on July 15, 2006, 03:31:45 pm
I take issue with valve trying to claim  the credit for CS  :wtf:

The CS I remember anyways.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: IPAndrews on July 15, 2006, 04:00:34 pm
I have been waiting for this news for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Turnsky on July 15, 2006, 10:11:30 pm
wow, totally new direction, kudos to them, it's a real turnaround from what we've all been seeing in the past.
from gritty war to sixties spy.. gotta love that  :yes:
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: phreak on July 16, 2006, 07:44:47 pm
oh god, the splash screen is terrible.  I was hoping it would be something like TFC: Source, but they ****ed this up.

Looks like Fortress Forever will be awesome then.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2006, 04:27:21 am
*Hugs Valve*

Cheers Rictor Nice one..  I been waiting uber-years for this :D

(does a short jig oof happiness)
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: IPAndrews on July 17, 2006, 04:44:23 am
What's wrong with the splash screen. Looks funny and let's face it TF is hardly serious.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 17, 2006, 04:49:50 am
Its all about the fun :D
GO SPY!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Col. Fishguts on July 17, 2006, 07:29:12 am
I have been waiting for this news for a long, long time.

I've read the thread title and instantly knew you'd be here ;)

As for TF, I like the idea of a goofy cell-shaded shooter.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Ford Prefect on July 17, 2006, 12:08:24 pm
I think Team Fortress blows. It's just a chaotic button-masher.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Nuclear1 on July 17, 2006, 06:26:10 pm
I think Team Fortress blows. It's just a chaotic button-masher.

Finally, something that I think we can both safely agree on.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: IPAndrews on July 18, 2006, 10:56:25 am
So are we having a HLP invitational TF2 bash then?
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Rictor on July 18, 2006, 04:46:36 pm
I think Team Fortress blows. It's just a chaotic button-masher.

Finally, something that I think we can both safely agree on.

That may well be, but it's one of the only multiplayer games, shooter or otherwise, that has been able to keep my interest for any significant period of time. Not every game can be or should be Deus Ex or System Shock. Besides, have you actually played TFC? I would say that it's far from being a thoughtless button-masher, even though that's what is sometimes becomes (as do the vast majority of games once in a while.)
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: IPAndrews on July 18, 2006, 04:53:26 pm
It's not chess by any means but a skilled player can still rack up a whole load of kills in some really amusing ways. Just thinking about it makes me miss TFC so much :(
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives!
Post by: Rictor on July 19, 2006, 04:49:18 pm
The trailer is out, and it looks awesome.

FileFront
http://files.filefront.com/Team+Fortress+2+Teaser+Trailer/;5276525;;/fileinfo.html

YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaF638MBSAE
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: IPAndrews on July 20, 2006, 05:31:36 am
Here's hoping for a better trailer.  :wtf: Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Falcon on July 20, 2006, 05:46:07 am
I've never a Valve game before, but I just might play this... looks fun. :D
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Sandwich on July 21, 2006, 10:56:30 am
Portal looks really neat, too... kinda like the portal feature of Prey combined with the HL2 Gravity Gun, all tossed into The Incredible Machine for good measure. :yes:
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: IPAndrews on July 21, 2006, 11:03:30 am
I am going to have to consider buying HL2E2 now aren't I and allowing STEAM to infest my machine.  :ick:
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Ferret on July 21, 2006, 11:10:39 am
I've refused to buy anything that uses Steam before now, but the words "Team" "Fortress" and "2" certainly sparked my attention. Then I watched the trailer for Portal and played Narbacular Drop. I think I'll have to break down and get HL2E2.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Sandwich on July 21, 2006, 05:30:52 pm
Honestly, Steam isn't really annoying. Yeah, it's slow, checks for updates all the time, pops up Valve news when you exit a game sometimes, but it's not hard at all to tell it to go away. Just don't have it running all the time.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Ferret on July 21, 2006, 06:06:32 pm
Okay, I decided to play the Half-Life 2 demo. Installed Steam, made an account started downloading it. all looked good.
It then stopped downloading at about 20% for no reason.
I went to launch HL2 and and it was okay, except in game it kept having random stalls for no reason, sometimes for half a second sometimes for 30 seconds. Then I realised it was stalling and immediately after playing a sound, I thought maybe it was taking ages to load them, then I realised it was fine with sounds I had already heard.

So I'm there thinking, there's no way it's doing what I think it's doing. I closed it, opened again and restarted the demo, all was fine and dandy until it played a new sound.

It gets to wanting a new sound in the game, requests it from Steam, downloads it and then carries on. It doesn't download while it's off, or when it doesn't need them, it's only downloading stuff when the game requests it. This is ridiculous, it makes it unplayable. This can't be right can it?

Half-Life 2 seems a lot better than I thought it was and I want to play it properly, but I am planning to buy it from Steam, it's not like this with the full game is it?
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 21, 2006, 06:16:25 pm
IIRC, yeah, it was when you got the full game, because it's since been patched.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: IPAndrews on July 21, 2006, 06:19:20 pm
You could try running the game with your network cable pulled out. That might stop it trying to download stuff. Of course if it wasn't able to download the media files earlier due to the 20% stall during download, the game may not be playable. This is all just guesswork. I have to maintain a room of 30 machines running STEAM at work and I've never seen this. Then again we have an ultra fast network connection so downloads practically never fail.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Ferret on July 21, 2006, 06:47:00 pm
You could try running the game with your network cable pulled out. That might stop it trying to download stuff. Of course if it wasn't able to download the media files earlier due to the 20% stall during download, the game may not be playable. This is all just guesswork. I have to maintain a room of 30 machines running STEAM at work and I've never seen this. Then again we have an ultra fast network connection so downloads practically never fail.
The problem is that it doesn't have the files yet and doesn't get them until it's asked for them, I'm guessing if I tried to play it with my connection off then it would just stall indefinately or crash due to missing media.

I'm gonna just bite the bullet and get HL2 on Steam, see if it's the same, and give Valve an earful if it is.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Ferret on July 22, 2006, 10:50:56 am
Got HL2 from Steam, everything downloaded okay overnight. Not ran into any problems yet (except being stuck in a wall once lawl).
Lost Coast has it'self stuck on 88% though. Havn't tried playing it yet though...
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Sandwich on July 25, 2006, 11:45:12 am
If you got a partial download, you should simply be able to click on Installed Games (or whatever it's called) and remove local files, then redownload it.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Apathy on July 26, 2006, 06:55:36 pm
I always wonder whats wrong with my steam account, everyone says it sucks but mine downloads quickly, doesn't crash, and i tell it to not popup any news. :D In fact its running in the background right now, downloading preview movies and updates, and when I want to play it stops them to free up bandwidth.

I love the TF2 trailer though, the cartoony look really fits it - I was annoyed when the first screens came out of TF2 before it went vapourware for a while, was too gritty and realistic looking.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: vyper on July 26, 2006, 06:58:45 pm
The only problem I have with Steam is that it refuses to remove itself from the windows startup list.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Sandwich on July 27, 2006, 07:07:11 am
:wtf: What are you doing to remove it? I had absolutely no problems in that regard.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: Triple Ace on August 07, 2006, 09:19:49 pm
Hopefully I'll be back on a broadband connection by the time it is released.
Title: Re: Team Fortress 2, it lives! (now with trailery goodness)
Post by: IPAndrews on September 04, 2006, 04:00:56 am
New trailer out. We get to see a bit more of the gameplay this time. The HW's gattling gun sprays so much now that I doubt you could hit anything with it.