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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Turey on October 16, 2006, 08:24:45 pm

Title: OLD FreeSpace Open Installer
Post by: Turey on October 16, 2006, 08:24:45 pm
This installer has been superseded by a new version, which can be found here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=87537.0).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Taristin on October 16, 2006, 10:54:25 pm
Stickied because I think this is a good idea worth looking into further.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Knarfe1000 on October 18, 2006, 08:55:58 am
Great idea, even if I don´t need it...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on October 19, 2006, 04:18:47 pm
Why you have included mediavps?This makes the file too big for slow connections,while users need the installer and recent builds of FS/FRED Open.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 19, 2006, 05:14:27 pm
Why you have included mediavps?This makes the file too big for slow connections,while users need the installer and recent builds of FS/FRED Open.

I have not included the MediaVPs. Maybe I didn't make this clear, but when you download the installer, it only includes the bare minimum files* necessary to play FreeSpace Open. However, when you run the installer, it asks you which files you want to install. I included on that option list is a MediaVp checkbox and an adveffects checkbox. If either of these is selected, it will download them DURING THE INSTALL. This allows for a one-size-fits-all installer that gets the basic files to the 56k users, while still allowing the higher-bandwidth users to easily install the MediaVPs at the same time they install everything else.




* This statement is not actually true. I spent a week looking, but I was unable to find a .rar extractor for NSIS, so unfortunately the 710 patches are included in the main installer. This problem could easily be fixed by someone uploading .zip versions of the 710 patches to a static url, or by someone kindly pointing me in the direction of a reliable .rar plugin for NSIS.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: achtung on October 19, 2006, 09:17:04 pm
Why you have included mediavps?This makes the file too big for slow connections,while users need the installer and recent builds of FS/FRED Open.

I have not included the MediaVPs. Maybe I didn't make this clear, but when you download the installer, it only includes the bare minimum files* necessary to play FreeSpace Open. However, when you run the installer, it asks you which files you want to install. I included on that option list is a MediaVp checkbox and an adveffects checkbox. If either of these is selected, it will download them DURING THE INSTALL. This allows for a one-size-fits-all installer that gets the basic files to the 56k users, while still allowing the higher-bandwidth users to easily install the MediaVPs at the same time they install everything else.




* This statement is not actually true. I spent a week looking, but I was unable to find a .rar extractor for NSIS, so unfortunately the 710 patches are included in the main installer. This problem could easily be fixed by someone uploading .zip versions of the 710 patches to a static url, or by someone kindly pointing me in the direction of a reliable .rar plugin for NSIS.
I could host all of this if FileFront would stop *****ing about "FastPass".  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Taristin on October 19, 2006, 09:24:34 pm
I used this.

The only thing that was wonky was that it created a directory called "Freespace 2" within my Freespace 2 directory, but that may have been my doing?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 19, 2006, 11:18:53 pm
I used this.

The only thing that was wonky was that it created a directory called "Freespace 2" within my Freespace 2 directory, but that may have been my doing?


Odd. It didn't do that for me. I'll look into it. did you change the default install directory? was it an empty folder, or did it have some files in it? Which files?


EDIT: alright, I re-installed using the lastest one. I don't seem to get any extra Freespace 2 folder. Unless this happens to someone else as well, I'm going to consider this a freak occurence.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 21, 2006, 09:50:25 pm
New version of Installer.

This is a minor update. If you have already installed using the previous version of the installer, there is no benefit to uninstalling the old version and installing this new version.

Due to Mobius' question, I took the 710 patches out of the main installer download. It took me a while, but I finally found a file host (www.mydatabus.com) that fulfilled all my requirements. The installer now downloads the 710 patches from there, and the size of the installer has shrunk to 8.78 MB.

The installer now contains two versions of launcher6.ini. If you don't install the MediaVPs, it will give you a launcher.ini that only has the exe selected and nothing else. If you install the MediaVPs, it replaces it with a launcher6.ini that has the Media_VPs folder selected as the mod.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on October 22, 2006, 06:49:34 am
A minor thing but can you use mediavps instead of Media_VPs.

Life gets so much easier if everyone uses the same names.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 22, 2006, 03:24:48 pm
3.6.9 - RC 7.8 - Mk. 3 is out! See changelog above for more details.

This is a minor update. However, all users of previous versions are advised to update to this version to insure mod compatibility.

If you previously installed with the MediaVPs option selected, and you don't want to re-download the MediaVPs, just follow these steps:
1. Rename the Media_VPs folder to mediavps
2. Run reverttoretail.exe, selecting all options.
3. Download and run the new installer. Check the install boxes for the MediaVPs that you already have installed.
4. When it tries to download the MediaVPs again, you can just hit cancel and it will use the already-installed MediaVPs.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on October 23, 2006, 08:25:37 am
1. Rename the Media_VPs folder to mediavps

:lol: Let me guess: you raised the wrath of karajorma?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on October 23, 2006, 03:41:48 pm
Not quite the wrath. Just a friendly suggestion to make things easier for everyone :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 23, 2006, 04:10:00 pm
:lol: Let me guess: you raised the wrath of karajorma?

It was an easy change anyways, and I wouldn't have found the other two problems without looking through the code again, which kara's suggestion made me do.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on October 25, 2006, 03:02:07 am
Ehm,I have a "mediavps" folder too...should I change its name? :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on October 25, 2006, 04:53:36 am
You have the right name already :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: bloated on November 02, 2006, 12:21:45 pm
is the hud upgrade included in these patches.

the radar screen on the bottom on my latest patching on a different computer isn't showing the 3d map it's the old 2d which I noticed the hard way during missions is almost impossible to navigate reliably on the fly. :hopping:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 02, 2006, 02:00:15 pm
The 3D radar is turned on via the launchers command lines. Check Features->HUD->Enable 3D Radar.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: bloated on November 02, 2006, 11:59:01 pm
ok I will stop asking questions that have easy answers...... at least for now  :doubt:

p.s. thanks.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dr22 on November 06, 2006, 05:20:24 pm
Hi All; I went to your download sight and downloaded, but I did have problems with doing it. ie, I have broadband but it still took 6 minutes to download, maybe my problem. Then when I tried to install, it asked me what program I wanted to use to open it. What program do I use to open it? Or do I need to have fs2 open when I try to install? Any help would be appreciated. Thank You.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on November 06, 2006, 05:43:46 pm
Hi All; I went to your download sight and downloaded, but I did have problems with doing it. ie, I have broadband but it still took 6 minutes to download, maybe my problem. Then when I tried to install, it asked me what program I wanted to use to open it. What program do I use to open it? Or do I need to have fs2 open when I try to install? Any help would be appreciated. Thank You.

It shouldn't need to be "opened". It's an .exe.

try a direct link (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe). maybe the re-direct is screwing you up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HighlanderMM on November 13, 2006, 11:11:27 am
 :confused:
What is this FreeSpace Open Installer? What does it do for you? I don't see an explanation here on the site but assuming it must be here somewhere. I just loaded the retail version and looking forward to trying the Multiplayer. I tried to create an account on www.pxo.net without success and then ran into this site. Any explanation on what the Open Installer is and what it does for you would be great.. Thanks.



HighlanderMM
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on November 13, 2006, 01:44:16 pm
It installs an upgrade for FreeSpace 2. It has amazing graphics, fewer bugs, and a more powerful engine for modding and FREDing. If your computer can handle FreeSpace Open (and almost all can), you should install it. It makes the game look like it's brand new.

For more info on FreeSpace Open, see The FAQ (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/general.html#WhatIsSCP).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: castor on November 13, 2006, 01:50:04 pm
And PXO is history... look here for multi => www.game-warden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=42
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: FOX2PRO on November 20, 2006, 10:36:01 pm
Well, you don't need Retail Freespace 2...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on November 21, 2006, 12:01:57 am
Well, you don't need Retail Freespace 2...

Retail IS needed for this installer. Frankly, It'd be quite a bit of work to incorporate all the necessary retail files, and I'd only be duplicating the excellent work done by ShivanSpS (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,39499.0.html). If you want Retail and Open all at once, go get that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Stomp357 on November 21, 2006, 08:05:49 am
  When I click the link to the installer, a web page opens for a second, then closes. Nothing downloads. Is this installer still supported?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 21, 2006, 08:34:44 am
http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe

The redirect worked for me though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Stomp357 on November 21, 2006, 08:57:04 am
Direct Link (http://www.mydatabus.com/2z/tznvy.pbz/tureyhall/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe)

The redirect worked for me though.

  Thank you very much.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Buddynayr on December 02, 2006, 12:55:49 pm
This installer was excellent.  I used it, after being puzzled at all of the necessary files that you need.  It made things so much easier.  Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 03, 2006, 01:05:40 am
In preparation for the release of 3.6.9, I'm taking submissions for mods to be included. If you have a mod and you wish to have it considered for inclusion, please do the following:

EDIT: Mod text file format has changed. See how to make mod text files here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html).

Quote from: old
1. Upload all the mod's files to a server which allows direct links. Not FileFront and its ilk.

2. Upload a .txt file to a server with the following format (mediavps are used as an example):
Code: [Select]
mediavps
http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/
mv_music.zip
mv_textures.zip
mv_core.zip
mv_effects.zip
mv_models.zip
END
This file would download http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/mv_music.zip, http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/mv_textures.zip, etc. into a mod folder in the FreeSpace 2 folder with the name at the top (in this case, mediavps).

3. post a link to the text file in this thread.

Thank you very much for reading this.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on December 03, 2006, 12:19:49 pm
Ooh, super. ;7 I will do this right away for the FSPort.

One issue with your text file.  It doesn't appear to distinguish critical mod files (mv_core) from optional ones.  Also, it doesn't allow you to specify the name of the mod.  For example, I might want to send you a text file for the Port, but I might also want to send you one for Awakenings, which requires the Port.

Kudos for the text file idea though; that's really clever. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 03, 2006, 06:16:20 pm
EDIT: Mod text file format has changed. See how to make mod text files here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html).

Quote from: old
Ooh, super. ;7 I will do this right away for the FSPort.

One issue with your text file.  It doesn't appear to distinguish critical mod files (mv_core) from optional ones.  Also, it doesn't allow you to specify the name of the mod.  For example, I might want to send you a text file for the Port, but I might also want to send you one for Awakenings, which requires the Port.

Kudos for the text file idea though; that's really clever. :)

Ok, I put in section dependency. Here's an example of how you'd do it. You post this:
Quote from: Goober5000
This mod is named "FreeSpace Port".
It doesn't need any other mods to function.
(link to text file, as above.)

Then this:
Quote from: Goober5000
This mod is named "Awakenings".
It needs the Port to function.
(link to text file, as above.)

Then this:
Quote from: Goober5000
This mod is named "Awakenings Voice Pack".
It needs the Port and Awakenings to function.
(link to text file, as above.)

Posting those three things would give you this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/Turey/Port.png)





EDIT: Alright, some more about the text files. The text file should be hosted in a place where it can be changed by the mod leader when the files change. That's why I'm asking for a link.

Also, I realize that some mods may have files in multiple places, on both the internet and the computer. Therefore, I've added two more "commands" to the text file:
Code: [Select]
mediavps
http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/
mv_core.zip
mv_effects.zip
mv_models.zip
mv_music.zip
mv_textures.zip
NEW
www.mydatabus.com/2z/tznvy.pbz/tureyhall/
mp_standard.zip
CD
mediavps\data
mvlauncher6.ini
END

NEW changes the download URL from the one specified in the second line of the file to the one on the line after NEW.

CD changes the mod directory from the folder in the first line to the folder after CD.

Hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spzattk on December 03, 2006, 09:08:36 pm
Do you need to install the mediavps, or do they come with the install?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Buddynayr on December 03, 2006, 09:49:05 pm
Do you need to install the mediavps, or do they come with the install?

No, you don't.  You choose which vps to install during the process, and the installer automatically downloads them for you.  It's pretty foolproof.

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: neoterran on December 04, 2006, 10:41:56 am
Wow, HLP is getting organized.  :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: bloated on December 05, 2006, 02:58:15 am
any ETA in mind for 3.6.9?

also I haven't tried it yet but to be honest I was worried that installing the FS1 to FS2 port was going to be a nightmare..... with 3.6.9 will most of the upgrades bey simple 1 click processes?

yeah I know I'm being a pain but just wondering and I will certainly take the time to do the discovery on how to get it working in month or so..... atm busy with work.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on December 05, 2006, 04:12:44 am
Installing a mod is actually very easy even without the installer. You just need to know the correct thing to do. When I install a new mod it very rarely take me longer than 30 seconds (excluding the time for the rar or zip to extract of course).

Turey's installer should make things a lot easier though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 05, 2006, 09:28:27 am
You just need to know the correct thing to do.

And there lies the problem for a lot of people.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on December 05, 2006, 09:45:31 am
Of course. Which is why I like the installer but it's not a 100% solution because people will want to make their own mods or download ones the installer doesn't support (new releases especially) so there will always be a need to know what to do.

Being able to see how the installer did it though will be a big help though. I doubt as many people will be sticking mods in the main folder once they notice that the installer doesn't do that for instance.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 06, 2006, 05:23:57 pm
Could someone who is running Linux try using the Installer with wine? If it works, that'll save me a whole lot of time looking for a scriptable installer for Linux.

Also, could someone running Mac try the installer with a wine-like program? (perhaps darwine (http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwine/)?)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 06, 2006, 07:16:43 pm
This seems interesting enough...


I'm curious.

What would be involved in enabling a simple option - to upgrade only the executables (latest Launcher.exe, fs2_open_r/d.exe, fred2_open_r/d.exe), only graphics (MediaVP's) or both?


Another thing - does this installer overwrite files or does it create, say, a backup folder named "old executables" or something like that? What does it actually do with executables? Does it always dump a file named "fs2_open_r.exe" into the FS2 root directory, or are the executables that it dumps into the directory named distinctively by description like 369RC7-9X, or by date like the CVS builds?

What happens if there already is a file with same name in the directory? Does it promptly get overwritten?


By the way, I'll have to ask what would be the advantages and disadvantages of distributing total conversions (TBP, BtRL, SoL et al) as downloadable packages that could be installed using a package manager of choice?


Man, it would be so cool to just invoke

$ sudo apt-get install beyondtheredline


or equivalent... :pimp:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 07, 2006, 06:22:05 pm
Alright, Installer has been updated. I got tired of telling people, "Use the installer, then download RC7.9x." See the first post for details.

Note that you can't actually get the new version yet. www.mydatabus.com (otherwise an excellent file host) seems to have the annoying inability to tell that a file is gone and that the name can be reused. So I'm trying to upload the Installer, and it's naming it core_files[95].zip instead of core_files.zip, and it's a PITA to change the names in the code. I haven't heard back from the staff of mydatabus on this issue. Give me 30 min and it should be ok. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Also, please keep submitting your mods/campaigns to be included in the Installer! I've gotten 3 so far, but I know there are many more good campaigns out there!

EDIT: OK, as a temporary fix, I've uploaded the files that weren't working to my other mydatabus account. Everything should work now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lordfreespace on December 07, 2006, 07:14:43 pm
I'm having trouble downloading your installer.  I'm having the same problem that somebody else had and that was that windows didn't reconize the format and wanted me to "open" the "file" with a program.  And when I clicked on your direct link it said teh file was missing.  Could you post an updated direct link or tell me what to do?  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 07, 2006, 07:31:48 pm
as I said above, the URL changed slightly. The old one will be back soon, but until then:
First try this link (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe).

If that doesn't work, try this one (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe).

Tell me which one works.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lordfreespace on December 07, 2006, 07:48:13 pm
They both downloaded but windows still wanted me to choose a program to run them with instead of it just installing.  am i the only one having this problem?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lordfreespace on December 07, 2006, 08:12:37 pm
NEVERMIND,  I just renamed the file and added and .exe extension.  Worked fine.  If anybody else has problems like that, try that!  Thanks
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 04:04:02 pm
Installer has new version (A few bugs fixed/minor features added) and has been moved to a new server. Thanks to [DW]-Hunter for the hosting.

Also, for those people who have had problems with the re-direct, everything uses a direct link now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 08, 2006, 06:44:44 pm
Thanks Turey, it's working again!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 08:15:06 pm
Just grabbed the new version of the installer but right before the end it freezes for me and uh, well eats up all my memory :(

(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4155/wuttm1.th.jpg) (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wuttm1.jpg)

The previous version of the installer worked just fine. (Yes i did try this on a 'fresh' install of FS2 incase you were wondering =P) Any ideas?

Thanks,
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 08:18:18 pm
What options did you select? It looks to me like you're having problems with the mods. I've had the same problem as you, but only when my school's porn filter decided to block Game-Warden.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 08:22:56 pm
I selected everything (including mods). No filters here though, no proxy, etc.

I'll re-try without the mods selected.

Edit: Didn't select the mods this time, install went just fine. (I can reach game-warden.com just fine btw).

Thanks for the help and for this great installer!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 08:33:57 pm
Alright, try downloading the Installer again. I've put up a new version that should give an error message and allow you to continue on instead of hanging.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 08:59:14 pm
Alright, re-ran your updated installer, popped up with this error (5 times):

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9692/wut2wa0.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wut2wa0.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 09:04:47 pm
Something is seriously wrong. That error message not only shouldn't come up if your internet is working, but there is no way in hell it can come up FIVE times. That line only has four chances to pop up that box, so how you are getting five times is beyond me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 09:07:31 pm
Yeah it could have been 4 times, it's 4 am, forgive me =P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 09:10:53 pm
Exe is updated, try again. Post the error codes it gives you.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 09:35:55 pm
Errors copy pasta'd:

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2787/wut3ml5.th.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wut3ml5.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 08, 2006, 09:45:05 pm
It's your computer somehow. Just get the mods manually.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bak on December 08, 2006, 10:19:21 pm
Errors remain, i'll try it out on another pc tomorrow.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 09, 2006, 12:35:31 am
Hey Turey,

I've been checking out your installer. Unlike for Bak :(, it works fine for me!

I'm new so I've been following the dead links all around the forums, and trying to understand what I need and don't and where to get it. I have it about figured out now, and I'd like to make a comment.

It would be neat if you and ShivanSPS could merge somehow. You have an uninstaller, he has more mods.
Your installer works to update his install I think, but I'm not sure it recognizes files that don't need updating, maybe it does.

You are more current with launcher 5.5 and the 369dot7 exe.

You both have the Derelict mod. He doesn't have Just Another Day but he has many mods besides that.

Yours requires the original install. while his doesn't. Unfortunately he doesn't include the mve cutscenes, which are now preferred.

You both seem to use the exact same mediavps files. The difference is that your adveffects files are installed into the mediavps folder, whereas his require that extra step for activation. I understand his reasoning but I side with yours because I assume that anyone who figures out FS2 SCP will be able to live with the adv files until they figure out if they want them.

To other new users, I wondered why both installers included Derelict, and the reason appears to be because of its quality. It has real voices during the missions and briefings, a good story, reasonable difficulty and length, extra models, etc.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 09, 2006, 03:30:22 pm
Exe updated, see changelog for details.

It would be neat if you and ShivanSPS could merge somehow. You have an uninstaller, he has more mods.
Your installer works to update his install I think, but I'm not sure it recognizes files that don't need updating, maybe it does.

You are more current with launcher 5.5 and the 369dot7 exe.

You both have the Derelict mod. He doesn't have Just Another Day but he has many mods besides that.

Yours requires the original install. while his doesn't. Unfortunately he doesn't include the mve cutscenes, which are now preferred.

I don't think we'll merge anytime soon, if at all. Our solutions for installing serve different parts of the community, and I don't think we could serve as much of the community if we merged. That said, we have been talking recently about making our install solutions more compatible with each other. If anything definite happens, we'll let you guys know.

As for recognizing files that don't need to be updated, that's quite a lot of work.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: ShivanSpS on December 09, 2006, 04:47:21 pm
No nesesary... try the Trueupdate program... I made some tests some time ago... basic.

Well for example, you place a .ini in the folders which the current vercion, and a direct download file from somewhere, the True Update what she do is a check, the vercion data in the .ini must be the same than the vercion data in internet, if not, Trueupdate proceds to download a file and places/run or wharever which him.

The problem which this system is... the file must be always the same one (like your new installer, which updated infomacion).

so, resuming, after thinking it well, merging our systems will only create us problems and delays, BUT I will be like have the same folders names...
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Post by: wolfen on December 09, 2006, 05:07:26 pm
My problem isn't installing y0our installer, its weapons after I get everything installed, I have none in the awakenings mod, rockeye in the derelict mod, and none in the FS2 training.
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Post by: Shade on December 09, 2006, 05:15:49 pm
Try with a new pilot and see if that helps.
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Post by: Turey on December 09, 2006, 09:01:31 pm
EXE updated, option to download .MVE cutscenes added.
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Post by: wolfen on December 10, 2006, 08:29:46 am
Creating a new pilot didn't help, but I did find a solution, since I already have the mods that come in the installer, I simply don't install the mods LOL. If theres a mod I don't have I'll either install it or get it. but the installer packages you put together are totaly awesome man thanks.
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Post by: AdmiralRalwood on December 10, 2006, 12:50:24 pm
EXE updated, option to download .MVE cutscenes added.
Nice. Next time I need to install FSO somewhere, I'm totally using your installer.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 10, 2006, 01:11:01 pm
Another program I use works something like this:

It has a text file on the server called update.lst, which contains the CRC values of each component.
When you run the updater it downloads the list, compares CRC's against what's installed, then downloads the difference.

The bonuses are that the server saves traffic, and all updated users have the same file versions, so troubleshooting new problems is easier.

I'm not suggesting anybody do any coding though. From reading the forum it's obvious how much progress has been made very recently. If I had found SCP a few months ago before ShivanSPS and Turey had done such good work, I would be in bad shape!

A good installer tends to move a lot of energy away from "Getting the thing to work" and re-focus that energy on content, where it rightfully belongs.

Thanks again fellas!
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Post by: Turey on December 10, 2006, 01:17:50 pm
Another program I use works something like this:

It has a text file on the server called update.lst, which contains the CRC values of each component.
When you run the updater it downloads the list, compares CRC's against what's installed, then downloads the difference.

The bonuses are that the server saves traffic, and all updated users have the same file versions, so troubleshooting new problems is easier.

The only problem with that is that most of the mods that the Installer downloads are hosted on the mod's website, which means keeping the update.lst, well, up to date would require more work on the mod creator's part, which I'd rather not do.

EDIT: exe updated, homesick added, really stupid bug with cutscenes fixed.

Homesick is the last one I'm putting in myself. You guys want more mods/campaigns, bug the creators to make mod text files or make them yourselves.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 10, 2006, 03:33:07 pm
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You guys want more mods/campaigns, bug the creators to make mod text files or make them yourselves.
Since you've made the format for including mods "open", I'm sure that will work itself out in time! ;)

I think the mods are secondary compared to getting an up to date clean install of FS1 and FS2, because without that who would even know what a mod was?
So, aside from the latest exe and media vps, what other core files would you need to track? I guess I'm trying to figure out how to implement an updater as opposed to a first time installer.
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Post by: Turey on December 10, 2006, 04:19:57 pm
So, aside from the latest exe and media vps, what other core files would you need to track? I guess I'm trying to figure out how to implement an updater as opposed to a first time installer.

Not counting mods, all the files that would need to be updated are either:
1. in core_files.zip (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/core_files.zip).
2. mediavps.
3. fs2open_pxo.cfg (http://www.game-warden.com/fs2open_pxo.cfg).

I could make an updater... hmmmm......
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Post by: wolfen on December 10, 2006, 04:35:41 pm
Another program I use works something like this:

It has a text file on the server called update.lst, which contains the CRC values of each component.
When you run the updater it downloads the list, compares CRC's against what's installed, then downloads the difference.

The bonuses are that the server saves traffic, and all updated users have the same file versions, so troubleshooting new problems is easier.

The only problem with that is that most of the mods that the Installer downloads are hosted on the mod's website, which means keeping the update.lst, well, up to date would require more work on the mod creator's part, which I'd rather not do.

EDIT: exe updated, homesick added, really stupid bug with cutscenes fixed.

Homesick is the last one I'm putting in myself. You guys want more mods/campaigns, bug the creators to make mod text files or make them yourselves.

Bug the Creators LMAO, I like that. Brother the thing you put together so far is WAY more than I could ever do, therefore its WAY good enough for me, I can either find the mods, or "bug the creators" LOL
Never been to hyped about bugging the creator though. :)
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Post by: Turey on December 10, 2006, 06:21:55 pm
exe updated.

The installer now includes an updater. Just run UpdateFreeSpaceOpen.exe in your freespace2 directory and it'll ask which sections to check for updates. Please note that it's not asking which files to update, but which ones to check for updates. If it finds updates for those files, it will update them.

And I know the updater says it's an uninstaller, but don't listen to it.

The updater doesn't update mods yet, but it will once I put up instructions on how to get the mod text files to work with the updater.

EDIT: Info on making mod text files work with the Updater is up. However, the Updater won't do mods yet. I'll put it in soon.
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Post by: wolfen on December 10, 2006, 08:21:52 pm
Your one of the Freespace Gods aren't you?
I just installed the latest and greatest, of your creations, I have voice AND sound in silent threat now :) I bow to you. If your ever in Va Beach, Va and need some auto work done let me know. I work on cars.
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Post by: Turey on December 11, 2006, 12:12:22 am
/me is tired from doing too much work on the Installer today.

exe updated, changelog..... blah, blah, blah.

As per Goob's request, Mod text file format has changed. See how to make mod text files here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html).
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Post by: Turey on December 11, 2006, 04:52:08 pm
exe and changelog updated.

Sync and Transcend have been added. Thanks to  Ransom Arceihn for making the text files.

The Updater will now update Mods as well.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 12, 2006, 02:55:13 pm
Man, that is super cool, thanks Turey!

I'm out of town now and I can hardly wait to get home and try it. No question that this is a huge boon to the project, thanks again!

Huggybaby
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Post by: Kegel on December 12, 2006, 05:17:33 pm
Since this installe ris being updated every day, would you reccomend waiting a while before we install?  I just reformatted and am looking to reinstall FS2 but dont want to do it every day.  I own the original disks so this installer is perfect for me.  Does every update require you to uninstall and then reinstall again? 
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Post by: Turey on December 12, 2006, 06:14:09 pm
Since this installe ris being updated every day, would you reccomend waiting a while before we install?  I just reformatted and am looking to reinstall FS2 but dont want to do it every day.  I own the original disks so this installer is perfect for me.  Does every update require you to uninstall and then reinstall again? 

Installer isn't going to be updated until 3.6.9 is out, which may be a while. Besides, an Updater is included, just run that to update.

I'm working on rewriting the Installer in Java anyways, as NSIS is a bit too limiting. 3.6.9 will probably still be NSIS, but 3.7.0 won't.

And for anyone who's interested, an Alpha version of the Java Installer will be here before Christmas.
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Post by: Kegel on December 12, 2006, 06:30:31 pm
Thanks.  This is an absoutely terrific way of patching.  If only this would have been available for Falcon 4 way back when.....

Thanks again for your work!
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Post by: Turey on December 12, 2006, 10:46:00 pm
For those of you interested in checking it out, I've finished the Alpha version of the Java-based Installer. Try it out here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar).

The Installer works perfectly, mods and all, but there's no updater or uninstaller yet.

The NSIS Installer will continue to be updated and supported for quite some time. If you're new to FreeSpace Open, get that one instead of this alpha version.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 12, 2006, 10:55:45 pm
Having a tad of difficulty with the installer.

It seems, though I'm no expert, that the FreeSpaceOpenSetup doesn't like my choice of destination. I have the HotU version of FreeSpace2 installed to G:\Freespace2

Though if I try and get the installer to use the directory, it gives me a bunch of errors, and only successfully puts the RevertToRetail.exe and the UpdateFreeSpaceOpen.exe in the game folder- and tells me the setup was completely successfully. All that worked was the OpenAL installer.

Yet if I let it try and install to the default directory- C:\Games\Freespace2 it seems to work fine. It's now at 84% of downloading mv_models.zip. Whether it will work when it tries to install the downloaded files to a blank directory, I have no idea.

Thanks.
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Post by: Turey on December 12, 2006, 11:05:09 pm
huh. Try downloading the Installer again and see if it works now.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 12:54:15 am
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/freeopen01.JPG
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/freeopen02.JPG

Same error. I'm using the link from your first post to download it.

Will I be able to copy the downloaded files from my C:\Games\FreeSpace2 directory over to the actual game directory, G:\Freespace2 ?

I saw that mvlauncher6.cfg in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps makes reference to the C:\Games\FreeSpace2 directory. I assume changes will need to be made to this file, and possibley others?
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 01:43:30 am
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/freeopen01.JPG
http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/freeopen02.JPG

Same error. I'm using the link from your first post to download it.

Will I be able to copy the downloaded files from my C:\Games\FreeSpace2 directory over to the actual game directory, G:\Freespace2 ?

I saw that mvlauncher6.cfg in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps makes reference to the C:\Games\FreeSpace2 directory. I assume changes will need to be made to this file, and possibley others?

For you, the problem is that you're tying to install on a drive other than the windows drive, which means NSIS gets confused between $TEMP (C:\WINDOWS\TEMP) and $INSTDIR (G:\Games\FreeSpace2). If you run the Java Alpha, it should avoid this problem.

But yeah, you can just copy over the files and folders you've already downloaded from C:\Games\FreeSpace2 to G:\Games\FreeSpace2. You shouldn't have any problems.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 09:55:22 am
Copied it over to my G:\Directory and the only thing that I got out of freespace open was the 3D hud, no textures.

So I'm going to try the java installer, but don't know what I should do with the files it gives me. By the way, using fire fox and internet explorer gives you two different files. Firefox gives you FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar, and internet explorer gives you FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 02:34:26 pm
Copied it over to my G:\Directory and the only thing that I got out of freespace open was the 3D hud, no textures.

So I'm going to try the java installer, but don't know what I should do with the files it gives me. By the way, using fire fox and internet explorer gives you two different files. Firefox gives you FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar, and internet explorer gives you FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip

Try re-downloading the .jar (if it downloads as .zip, rename it to .jar) and then running this (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/javautilities/javautilities.exe). Then you should be able to double-click the .jar file to run it.

And if you say no to the mediavps, it won't give you any new textures.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 03:16:38 pm
Like I said- using the HotU install. I suppose I'm going to have to get the game from freespacezone.

http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/javainstall.JPG
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 03:19:25 pm
Like I said- using the HotU install. I suppose I'm going to have to get the game from freespacezone.

http://www.students.yorku.ca/~mikereid/javainstall.JPG

Um.... Try G:\FreeSpace2 instead of G:\Freespace2
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 03:42:28 pm
Same thing. Though, the freespace2 directory indeed doesn't have the folder and file the installer is looking for.
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Post by: Kegel on December 13, 2006, 04:21:31 pm
Same thing here.  I didnt have aproblem aon a version I downloaded about a month ago (I just reformatted).  I installed into C/program Files/Freespace 2.  The installer asks me for the directory which I give it.  Install fails in about 3 seconds.  It creates a Games/freespice 2 folder in my root directory and a shortcut (that doesnt point to anything) on my desktop.  What up???
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 04:25:46 pm
Same thing. Though, the freespace2 directory indeed doesn't have the folder and file the installer is looking for.

Try downloading the .jar again. I think I've fixed it now.

Same thing here.  I didnt have aproblem aon a version I downloaded about a month ago (I just reformatted).  I installed into C/program Files/Freespace 2.  The installer asks me for the directory which I give it.  Install fails in about 3 seconds.  It creates a Games/freespice 2 folder in my root directory and a shortcut (that doesnt point to anything) on my desktop.  What up???

You really shouldn't be using the Java version unless you know what you're doing or your setup is a bit abnormal (like not installing to C:\).

Get the NSIS version instead. Link is in the first post.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 04:30:24 pm
Same error still. I'm almost halfway through downloading the first Freespace 2 cd from freespace zone- and lucky me still has the original Disc 2 & 3.

Though I'll keep trying with the HotU version as well, if only to help fix the installer :)
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 04:31:22 pm
Same error still. I'm almost halfway through downloading the first Freespace 2 cd from freespace zone- and lucky me still has the original Disc 2 & 3.

Though I'll keep trying with the HotU version as well, if only to help fix the installer :)

where are you running the .jar file from?
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 04:44:15 pm
Desktop, though I just tried it from the Freespace2 directory.
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 04:49:58 pm
Desktop, though I just tried it from the Freespace2 directory.

Can you post a picture again? I need the line numbers.

Oh, and Kegel? You really shouldn't install to a directory with a space in it. If you do, you'll need to put quotes around the directory it asks for (e.g. "C:\Program Files\FreeSpace2").
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 04:53:56 pm
I replaced the old picture. The new javainstall.jpg is from me running it from the G:\Freespace2 directory.

From what I can see, it's the exact same.

This post marks my 23, yay.
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 04:59:19 pm
I replaced the old picture. The new javainstall.jpg is from me running it from the G:\Freespace2 directory.

From what I can see, it's the exact same.

This post marks my 23, yay.

I found out what's causing your problem, I'll fix it in a sec.

EDIT: Alright, I think I got it. Try downloading the .jar again.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 05:34:05 pm
New error. I updated the picture.
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 05:43:42 pm
New error. I updated the picture.

Try it again.
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Post by: Uninvited on December 13, 2006, 06:49:33 pm
I've done a real install of FreeSpace and the installer is working fine. Just seems it doesn't like the HotU version. I'm currently installing FreSpaceOpen with the .exe install, since you've said it'll be supported in the future with updates, and include the revert to retail package.

I've moved the HotU version to G:\Freespace3 and here goes (with the java installer)...

All right, it works! Started downloading the core files. Though I'm going to stick with my real version install. Nice to have that bug ironed out :)
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Post by: Kegel on December 13, 2006, 06:58:21 pm
Same thing. Though, the freespace2 directory indeed doesn't have the folder and file the installer is looking for.

Try downloading the .jar again. I think I've fixed it now.

Same thing here.  I didnt have aproblem aon a version I downloaded about a month ago (I just reformatted).  I installed into C/program Files/Freespace 2.  The installer asks me for the directory which I give it.  Install fails in about 3 seconds.  It creates a Games/freespice 2 folder in my root directory and a shortcut (that doesnt point to anything) on my desktop.  What up???

You really shouldn't be using the Java version unless you know what you're doing or your setup is a bit abnormal (like not installing to C:\).

Get the NSIS version instead. Link is in the first post.


I did use the old installer...no java for me!  Why do you assume I dont know what Im doing?  LOL.  (I dont...good guess).
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Post by: Kegel on December 13, 2006, 07:00:56 pm
Ill try putting quotes around thedirectory.  I did install to c/PROGRAM FILES/Freespace2
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Post by: Kegel on December 13, 2006, 08:16:49 pm
Quotes dont work... I guess I have to install FS2 into the root directory C? 
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Post by: Turey on December 13, 2006, 08:40:31 pm
Quotes dont work... I guess I have to install FS2 into the root directory C? 

C:\Games\FreeSpace2 works better.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 13, 2006, 09:12:46 pm
No spaces in the path please. The original CD installer doesn't use them, so no sense in fighting it eh?

A niggling problem to be sure, which will most likely be eventually ironed out, but in the meantime better to go with the flow and get your game on than fight a stupid persnickety path.   :shaking:
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 10:40:31 am
Yep, I can't use D:, have to use C:.

I'm reinstalling from scratch, using the CD's to see if some error messages will go away.

Questions:

1. If I do a clean CD install, and then put FSOpen over it, will I need a no-cd patch? If so, can I get the patch separately from somewhere?
2. I was using the updater last night, testing by checking only the core files box, and the updater downloaded the files every time---is this correct? That doesn't seem like a properly working update function.
3. The uninstall verbiage in the updater is confusing and disconcerting, will that be fixed soon?
4.  How does the new online installer compare to this one, and also to ShivanSPS's new installer? This is fun but time consuming!

Thanks,

Huggybaby

<edit>
Just did a full install of FS1 retail, and I noticed that the installer didn't ask for disk 2. Turns out disk 2 contains all the movies.
Crap, FS1 won't run or update.
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Post by: Turey on December 15, 2006, 12:42:17 pm
Yep, I can't use D:, have to use C:.

I'm reinstalling from scratch, using the CD's to see if some error messages will go away.

Questions:

1. If I do a clean CD install, and then put FSOpen over it, will I need a no-cd patch? If so, can I get the patch separately from somewhere?
No patch needed.

2. I was using the updater last night, testing by checking only the core files box, and the updater downloaded the files every time---is this correct? That doesn't seem like a properly working update function.
Yeah, I know this happens, and it's on purpose - for now. In the NSIS Installer, the core files are handled differently than everything else. This will be fixed once I get the Java Updater working.

3. The uninstall verbiage in the updater is confusing and disconcerting, will that be fixed soon?

That's built into NSIS, and very difficult to change. Again, It'll be fixed in the Java Updater.

4.  How does the new online installer compare to this one, and also to ShivanSPS's new installer? This is fun but time consuming!

Thanks,

Huggybaby
I wrote the new online Installer, and all that one does is install FreeSpace 2 Retail. This installs FreeSpace Open. They don't overlap.

As for Shivan's Installer, I haven't used it yet, but more options is always good.

<edit>
Just did a full install of FS1 retail, and I noticed that the installer didn't ask for disk 2. Turns out disk 2 contains all the movies.
Crap, FS1 won't run or update.

Why are you installing FreeSpace 1? FreeSpace Open runs on top of FreeSpace 2.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 01:01:25 pm
I'm testing to see if everything works properly if I install FS1 first, and I also want to see if doing so will make my update process quicker by having certain files installed already.

Are you saying FreeSpace Open is completely standalone from FS1 retail?

Also, good news, FS1 is working now. I had to use the 1.06 patch. I couldn't get it to work because I was using the North America version. Turns out you need the UK version, so I'm adding that link to my links post.
http://www.interplay.com/support/product.asp?GameID=111#18

There is a 1.06 eax patch I'm trying next.

And thanks Turey for all the answers above.

Quote
In the NSIS Installer, the core files are handled differently than everything else.
So I won't have to get the 800MB again?

Also, the eax patch worked but I can't use the eax setting because it knocks out speech, so back to DirectSound.

Now I'm going to install FS2.
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Post by: karajorma on December 15, 2006, 01:47:44 pm
Are you saying FreeSpace Open is completely standalone from FS1 retail?

It's FS2_Open not FS_Open :) It installs on top of the second game.

In order to see improved graphics for FS1 you have to install the FS1 to FS2 port. The Installer will do that for you.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 02:12:15 pm
I'm installing FS 2 Open now.

Every time the installer extracts a file, it seems to want to make a shortcut but gets an error and moves on.

Since I have the mve files already, where should I put them?
Never mind, I'll find out ;)

Um, the readme file in the mediavps folder says:
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=====(2) Installation:
Place mv_*.vp in the same directory as fs2_open (Probably your Freespace 2 directory) and delete or move any old MediaVP files.
Is this correct?
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Post by: Turey on December 15, 2006, 02:44:37 pm
I'm installing FS 2 Open now.

Every time the installer extracts a file, it seems to want to make a shortcut but gets an error and moves on.
What?

Um, the readme file in the mediavps folder says:
Quote
=====(2) Installation:
Place mv_*.vp in the same directory as fs2_open (Probably your Freespace 2 directory) and delete or move any old MediaVP files.
Is this correct?

No. And that file really needs to be taken out of the mediavps.
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Post by: Snail on December 15, 2006, 02:46:07 pm
Should be unzipped to a 'MediaVPs' folder, then activated using the secondary mod thing.
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Post by: Turey on December 15, 2006, 02:56:22 pm
Should be unzipped to a 'mediavps' folder, then activated using the secondary mod thing.

Fixed.
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Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 03:10:43 pm
How do I do the secondary mod thing? I thought adveffects worked by just placing that file in the freespace2 directory?

<edit> And I really need to unzip it? Are there any other files I should unzip?
<edit> The error is when it tries to make a link in the program menu I think. I was getting these with the updater too, I'm still downloading so I keep you informed.
<edit> Derelict is downloading very slowly. I envision a not too distant future where I can get the huge download from a torrent a la ShivanSPS, and then run the Java updater on that. That will be sweet.
<edit> Ahh, I see that mv_adveffects.vp is now put into the mediavps folder.

The derelict readme says
Quote
You will also need Lightspeed's Nebula Backgrounds, available here:

http://www.penguinbomb.com/lightspeed/index.html

These need to be extracted to the data/effects folder - you can use either
FS2/data/effects or [Derelict folder]/data/effects, it doesn't matter.
Is this correct?
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Post by: karajorma on December 15, 2006, 05:14:56 pm
Quote from: My FAQ
Be very wary of what the readmes that come with mods tell you to do. Many mods were written for FS2, before FS2_Open had its new mod managing features or by people only vaguely aware of what they do. For this reason I'll give you a golden rule.

NEVER install anything to Freespace2\Data regardless of what the instructions say.

If you are following this guide there is no reason to install there. Installing to that folder means that FS2 retail and multiplayer will load the mod and probably break.


There are a few rare occasions when you can break that rule but in general it's a good idea to follow it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 08:33:36 pm
Thanks karajorma.

Turey, here's my error:

(http://xs110.xs.to/xs110/06506/error.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 15, 2006, 08:37:28 pm
ah. Check your freespace2 folder. Do you have an "UpdateFreeSpaceOpen.exe"?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 15, 2006, 08:45:09 pm
Yes, here is the result of running the updater to see if Sync would update (I already had it, was checking to see if it would download over again, hoping not).

(http://xs110.xs.to/xs110/06506/error2.jpg)

Here's another piece to the puzzle, notice the bad second Freespace entry under the good folder:

(http://xs110.xs.to/xs110/06506/badshortcut.jpg)

I must say this is the first time my screen matches the screenshots around, my guess is that I've never had the advanced effects working before and it is a HUGE difference!  :p

Also, when installing I canceled out of some really large fsport files, but the updater acts like all the files are there, which means I'm going to have to get tricky somehow.

I ran the installer again to get the mve files, it created a movies folder but didn't put anything in them, maybe because I didn't select the core files again.
<edit> I copied all the mve's from my cd's and I have the same 10 files listed in cutscene.txt, so I think that will do that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2006, 12:22:52 am
I haven't had any problems with the new installer at all, my only problem is theres no voice in Homesick, sync, Transend, or JAD. And I can't find any voince files anywhere for them.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 16, 2006, 05:54:46 am
not all official campaigns have voice packs, remember, it takes a team of people to do the voice recordings, and not every fredder has those resources.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 16, 2006, 11:45:36 am
Maybe he means the TTS voices, because they don't work for me any more in 3.6.9.7.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2006, 03:04:58 pm
not all official campaigns have voice packs, remember, it takes a team of people to do the voice recordings, and not every fredder has those resources.

And that my friend is why I'm happy as can be that I'm able to read.
But I'd be more than happy to do some of the voices if I knew how.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on December 16, 2006, 03:32:18 pm
You could start here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,126.0.html) :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2006, 06:23:08 pm
Thanks Karajorma, I must have overlooked that thread the entire time I've been reading this board.
I will defanetly check it out
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 18, 2006, 09:29:54 am
I am going to need voice actors when I get my campaign done, so keep in contact. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 18, 2006, 06:38:43 pm
I'll leave FS when they pry my cold dead fingers of my controls.

But just in case the Email is [email protected]
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 19, 2006, 10:48:34 pm
Java version now has an updater, check it out if you're interested. Uninstaller may come later tonight.

Funny thing about the Java Updater, is that it can actually be used instead of the Java Installer. I'm debating whether or not to merge them together.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 19, 2006, 11:17:01 pm
Only problem is that the updater doesn't update. For example I can rename/remove the mediavps directory or any directory and it doesn't detect that it's missing.

That is, as long as I correctly specify C:\Games\FreeSpace2. If I use C:\Games as the path it will download stuff.

I'm using the link from page 4 (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar) to get the Java installer, and I had to run your Java utilities to get it to launch the jar file, and update_version.txt says "Java Alpha".
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 19, 2006, 11:20:31 pm
Only problem is that the updater doesn't update. For example I can rename/remove the mediavps directory or any directory and it doesn't detect that it's missing.

That is, as long as I correctly specify C:\Games\FreeSpace2. If I use C:\Games as the path it will download stuff.

I'm using the link from page 4 (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar) to get the Java installer, and I had to run your Java utilities to get it to launch the jar file, and update_version.txt says "Java Alpha".

Delete C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Installer
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 20, 2006, 12:04:02 am
OK, that makes it want to download everything again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: -Joshua- on December 20, 2006, 04:24:23 am
Only problem is that the updater doesn't update. For example I can rename/remove the mediavps directory or any directory and it doesn't detect that it's missing.

That is, as long as I correctly specify C:\Games\FreeSpace2. If I use C:\Games as the path it will download stuff.

I'm using the link from page 4 (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar) to get the Java installer, and I had to run your Java utilities to get it to launch the jar file, and update_version.txt says "Java Alpha".

The same problem here, but my .eXe version doesn't want to downloa anything to the D: disk at all (C: is OS only to me).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 20, 2006, 07:20:59 am
just install it to your c drive... it isnt going to hurt a damn thing to add one thing to a barely used drive.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: -Joshua- on December 20, 2006, 09:28:46 am
The Free space from that partition has been distrubuted over the two others (D: for data and E: for CDemeges) , so there is not much room left.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 20, 2006, 09:29:55 am
I feel your pain Joshua, I had to uninstall Psychonauts to make room for Freespace Open. LOL
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 20, 2006, 10:06:45 am
Partitioning your hard drive was a mistake on your part, thats another reason why I hate partitioning.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 20, 2006, 10:17:48 am
Understood. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,43947.0.html)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 20, 2006, 01:49:18 pm
OK, that makes it want to download everything again.

If you want to re-download a single part, you can delete the text file associated with it. It'll be in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Installer

Alternatively, you can open up that text file, find the line that says VERSION, and change the line after it to say something else. So if it was:

Code: [Select]
VERSION
3.6.9 RC7.9x

you could change it to:

Code: [Select]
VERSION
whatever

and it would see that as outdated.


The same problem here, but my .eXe version doesn't want to downloa anything to the D: disk at all (C: is OS only to me).

The .exe version doesn't like drives other than C:, which is part of the reason I'm switching to the .jar version. You'll have better luck installing to D: if you use the .jar version.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 20, 2006, 07:06:59 pm
Java Version updated. Updater now works better. You can find a list of everything you installed and its version in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Installer\installedversions.txt

If you want it to see something as out-of-date, simply change the version of it in installedversions.txt

The main reason I made this update is that it now needs one text file per mod creator. not per mod. for instance, if Axem wanted to put JAD0, JAD1, JAD2, JAD3, JAD4, JAD5, JAD6, and JAD65535 in the installer, he'd only need one text file, which would both install and uninstall (once I finish the uninstaller  :nervous:) every single JAD campaign.

To see an example of how the mod text files are structured for the Java Installer, go here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/goober5000.txt).

As for the NSIS Installer, it will continue to be supported until I finish the uninstaller for the Java version, at which point the executable will be taken down. The source for the NSIS Installer will stay up, in case anyone wants it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on December 23, 2006, 07:45:25 pm
Turey, I love what you've done, as both of these installers have saved my ass and a lot of time hunting for my FS2 discs. But is there any reason why the FSO installer (and the FS2 installer) is downloading at exactly 14.6 kb/s?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 23, 2006, 09:16:13 pm
I've tested the installer many times!
I notice it always slows way down when downloading Derelict, which takes hours. This has to be due to bandwidth limitations at the Derelict site. Plus who knows, there could be 1000 people using the installer as we speak. Hunter told me he's served 30,000 downloads in a year which is a LOT.

As an aside, last time I ran the Java installer it downloaded stuff but then never unzipped the files. Unfortunately I don't think Turey has any way of duplicating my specific problems, so they become anecdotal. :(
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Starkweather on December 27, 2006, 11:35:26 am
Yup, huggybaby, same exact problem here, last time I used NSIS the file host was down, then I tried java acouple hours later, and the host worked fine, never used the NSIS since, but I will now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 27, 2006, 11:45:31 am
Good to know I'm not alone.  :blah:

To make sure I had a complete install, I used the ShivanSPS downloads, then the updater, then manually extracted the zips, then deleted unnecessary files...a real PIA.

I've spent days trying to make my own installer/updater and I finally gave up. NSIS, Installshield, Inno Setup, they're all written for coders it seems.

The best solution would be to implement something called "rsync", but it's a command line utility that requires support on the server side, so I gave up on that too.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 27, 2006, 01:04:18 pm
As an aside, last time I ran the Java installer it downloaded stuff but then never unzipped the files. Unfortunately I don't think Turey has any way of duplicating my specific problems, so they become anecdotal. :(

I am aware of this problem, and am working to fix it. However, my laptop just died, and while the hard drive is fine, it will be a while before I can get it into a compatible computer to work on it.

Turey, I love what you've done, as both of these installers have saved my ass and a lot of time hunting for my FS2 discs. But is there any reason why the FSO installer (and the FS2 installer) is downloading at exactly 14.6 kb/s?

I've had reports of 2kb/s, and reports of 300kb/s. There's really nothing I can do about this, as I'm not hosting the vast majority of these files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 27, 2006, 02:04:26 pm
I am aware of this problem, and am working to fix it.
Very good, thanks.   :yes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 27, 2006, 04:48:19 pm
what files are downloading at 14KBps ?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 27, 2006, 04:58:28 pm
what files are downloading at 14KBps ?

The only ones I've heard complaints about are the Port files, but they're going through a bit of trouble with respect to downloads, so that's to be expected...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 27, 2006, 05:50:44 pm
Maybe Hunter could put Derelict on his site, that would help a lot.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 27, 2006, 06:30:35 pm
Maybe Hunter could put Derelict on his site, that would help a lot.

Talk to RazorsKiss about Derelict. He's the one hosting it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on December 27, 2006, 09:15:21 pm
i already am, i repackaged it for my download site because it was in multiple file downloads, i just put it all into one zip file.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 27, 2006, 11:04:37 pm
/me got lucky: He found a computer with the JDK installed, and so had a chance to work on the Installer.

Java versions of Installer and Updater have been updated, changelog will be updated in ~10 min.

This problem:
As an aside, last time I ran the Java installer it downloaded stuff but then never unzipped the files.
should now be fixed, and the larger downloads now have a "% done" number. Also, several bugs have been fixed.

Don't expect a Java uninstaller anytime soon, as all the work I've done on it is on a hard drive I now have no way of reading, at least until my laptop is repaired.

Also, the unzipper now prints a checksum. Don't get too excited though, cause I'm not doing anything with it... yet. :nervous:

EDIT: Little bug with launcher6.ini fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: rms on December 29, 2006, 10:00:30 am
Hi Turey!  I just did a clean install (on 12/28) of retail FS2, then ran your Java installer.  I saw a few problems:

1)  FSPort is at 3.0.4 now, yours installed 3.0.3
2)  An option is needed to install the FS1 and FS1:ST cutscenes!
3)  The only actual error occurred when trying to extract Transcend files.  I couldn't copy from the dos window, but it gave an error trying to extract to a sub-directory it couldn't find.  Looks like a packaging problem to me.

Everything else worked, as did the Updater, though it didn't flag any problem with Transcend.  Great stuff!

rms
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 29, 2006, 03:01:16 pm
1)  FSPort is at 3.0.4 now, yours installed 3.0.3
Fixed.
2)  An option is needed to install the FS1 and FS1:ST cutscenes!
Fixed, but only the FS1 cutscenes. If you want, I'll put up the ST vids (Headz, Giant C, etc.) as well.
3)  The only actual error occurred when trying to extract Transcend files.  I couldn't copy from the dos window, but it gave an error trying to extract to a sub-directory it couldn't find.  Looks like a packaging problem to me.
Fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 29, 2006, 03:03:57 pm
Turey, can you add the link to the java to your first post? It's hidden on page 4 now unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 29, 2006, 03:06:20 pm
Turey, can you add the link to the java to your first post? It's hidden on page 4 now unless I'm missing something.

Give me a half-hour or so, I'm working on updating the webpage to reflect the change to Java, then I'll do the first post.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 29, 2006, 03:08:37 pm
Thanks, BTW, I just downloaded the update and there's no jar or exe, just class files, so I don't know how to make it run.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 29, 2006, 03:24:22 pm
Thanks, BTW, I just downloaded the update and there's no jar or exe, just class files, so I don't know how to make it run.

You shouldn't need to get the .class files, just get this (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 29, 2006, 03:29:29 pm
That's the same thing I have, just class files.   :doubt:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 29, 2006, 03:40:36 pm
That's the same thing I have, just class files.   :doubt:

Do you mean that the link is just a .zip full of .class files? If so, just rename the .zip to .jar and run it.

If that doesn't work, you should be able (If you used my Java Utilities) to double-click FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.class, then just hit enter when it asks for parameters.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 29, 2006, 03:59:15 pm
Ranaming from zip to jar worked, thanks.

Yes, I have your utilities, that's the only way I can run your jars. Not sure what separates your jars from others though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 07:22:57 pm
In preparation for 3.6.9 Final, the Installer has been updated. Unless large problems are encountered, this is probably the version that will be the 3.6.9 Final Installer.

Changes:
Tidied up some code.
did a full test to make sure that everything works.
Added the .ogg cutscenes for FS1&FS2.
Added a RENAME command.

To-do:
1. Purge all traces of the NSIS Installer, make it obvious that Java is now the only supported Installer.
2. Finalize the Mod Text File Format, and start giving back control of the mod text files to the mod creators.
3. Finally get someone to test this thing on Linux and Mac, so that I can start fixing problems and adding more support for those OSes.
4. 3.6.9 Mediavps.
5. More Mods.
6. GUI.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 11:11:02 pm
Installer now installs 3.6.9 Final.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on December 31, 2006, 11:34:51 pm
Have the fs1 mve files been converted to ogg as well?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on December 31, 2006, 11:54:45 pm
Have the fs1 mve files been converted to ogg as well?

both .mve and .ogg cutscenes for both games are included.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 01, 2007, 12:09:52 am
Do you have a link? I found the FS2 ones here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44291.msg904548.html#msg904548) even though I got them from the installer, but the installer doesn't have the FS1 vidz as a separate option (I'll check again though).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 01, 2007, 12:11:59 am
Do you have a link? I found the FS2 ones here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44291.msg904548.html#msg904548) even though I got them from the installer, but the installer doesn't have the FS1 vidz as a separate option (I'll check again though).

You have to select to install the port to see them. Instead, try using the Updater to get them.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 01, 2007, 12:32:14 am
OK, I'll check a bit later thanks. http://www.fsoinstaller.com seems to be having trouble now.
<edit> That worked, the updater has a finer granularity than the installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 01, 2007, 02:04:20 am
Installer updated.

After finally finding a Linux tester, and working through some bugs, the Installer is now confirmed to work with Linux. However, I don't have the Linux Binaries in there, and you can't use ~, you have to use an absolute pathname.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agent_Koopa on January 01, 2007, 02:42:55 pm
I'm running this to upgrade my version of FSOpen to 3.6.9, is that going to work?


Also, the .jar file, (once I have your utilities, that is, (why must I download your utilities to make an installer open?)) opens in a command-line interface. Is this supposed to happen? It's running right now, but I don't understand what it asks me, so I just say "yes" to everything. What are the 710 patches? Will this even work? Is this really the official installer?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 01, 2007, 03:14:58 pm
There is no "official" installer as such.  All the available installers a slightly different and pretty much all are viable.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 01, 2007, 04:25:35 pm
I'm running this to upgrade my version of FSOpen to 3.6.9, is that going to work?
yes.

why must I download your utilities to make an installer open?

you don't have to. If you know the other ways of running a .jar file, you can use those. The utilities are simply provided as a convinience.

opens in a command-line interface. Is this supposed to happen?
Yes. I'm working on a GUI, but for now it's command-line only.

What are the 710 patches?

they fix problems with the mediavps.

Will this even work?

Yes.

Is this really the official installer?

I can't speak for the SCP Coders, but this is about as official as you're going to get, and right now this is the only way you arre going to get .3.6.9 Final (short of doing a manual install.)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agent_Koopa on January 01, 2007, 08:16:50 pm
Ah. Thank you!  :D Sorry if I came across as a bit impetuous, I really appreciate the service you've rendered here for us.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 01, 2007, 10:32:45 pm
Well, I decided to give Tureys installer a go, just for kicks.

And, comparing it to my manual install, I found something odd: in my manual install, in the last "mission" of the FSPort version of the main FS campaign, after your ship leaves subspace with the Lucifer getting blown apart behind you, you are flying straight toward the GTI Arcadia "First Fleet HQ" which is just in front of Earth.  Earth does not appear in Tureys installer.

*shrugs*

Kinda strange, but it makes me wonder if this is the only instance of this kinda thing.

It is worthwhile to note that in both my manual install AND in Tureys install I used the LightspeedFS2.vp pack and used a modified 3.6.9 branch exe with MadProf's voice recognition modifications, as downloaded in the voice recognition topic.

EDIT: On a re-try I noticed, also, that oddly enough, there are no briefing voices, either.  In fact... as far as I know, no voices at all.  Could be wrong, though.  Defenitely no briefing voices.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 01, 2007, 11:00:17 pm
I don't suppose you kept your old manual install so you can compare the differences.

I have noticed some small but important differences between Turey's and Shivans install. I burned my Shivan install to DVD to use as a base, then I can update with Turey's when need be.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 01, 2007, 11:50:26 pm
Indeed, I actually switched between the two a few times to see the differences.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 02, 2007, 12:04:08 am
details...what did you notice?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: schmosef on January 02, 2007, 02:08:59 am
Hi Turey,

This is awesome. Thanks so much for making the life of us n00bs so much easier.

I have a question... Early on January 1st (very early) I setup my FS2 install from scratch via the FreeSpace 2 Online Installer I downloaded from your website. Everything was running fine. Just now I tried running the FreeSpace2OpenUpdater.jar program and it's pretty much telling me that all my files are outdated.

Is that right? Have there been any last minute changes that I possibly didn't receive the first time?

Edit: Now that the updater is finished I ran it again and this time it said everything is up to date. However, I noticed when it was running that several of the cutscene files failed to download. I'm going to try to download them manually.

I suggest you add an updater log to list any files that didn't download correctly. Also, I suggest you add a "Yes to All" option in the installer/updater so that users can walk away from their PCs while the install/update is in progress.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Kaine on January 02, 2007, 10:08:01 am
Hi Turey,

This is awesome. Thanks so much for making the life of us n00bs so much easier.

I have a question... Early on January 1st (very early) I setup my FS2 install from scratch via the FreeSpace 2 Online Installer I downloaded from your website. Everything was running fine. Just now I tried running the FreeSpace2OpenUpdater.jar program and it's pretty much telling me that all my files are outdated.

Is that right? Have there been any last minute changes that I possibly didn't receive the first time?

Edit: Now that the updater is finished I ran it again and this time it said everything is up to date. However, I noticed when it was running that several of the cutscene files failed to download. I'm going to try to download them manually.

I suggest you add an updater log to list any files that didn't download correctly. Also, I suggest you add a "Yes to All" option in the installer/updater so that users can walk away from their PCs while the install/update is in progress.

I second all of this. I have to ask.. what method do you use to decide whether files need updating or not? imho it would be best to have a small database of md5 hashes of various recent versions of the files, and compare the hashes of files it finds in the freespace directory (through a recursive search) and decide what is old & needs updating that way. The installer seems rather useless at working out what needs updating if it is trying to work from a manual install. it operates on the premise that its log files are accurate... and when it is creating them on first run they are never going to be accurate, so i've found it is re-downloading gigabytes of stuff i already have.

Secondly, the .jar extension and console are definately not user friendly, and are counter-intuitive to the goal of simplifying the install process.

We all very much value the idea and the effort that you've obviously put into this, but the execution is really too crude in its current state for mass use. some kind of IDE and smarter version checking would go a very long way to making this an invaluable peice of software. I'm sure if you put the word out you'll get some great support from fellow SCP coders to make this work.

Good luck and good on you for getting the ball rolling on something that will eventually prove vital to the SCP :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Starkweather on January 02, 2007, 10:01:32 pm
Yes, I'm sorry but can anyone tell me how to find Tureys Java Utilities? I found it once, installed using the java, and forgot about it, but now my friend wants to use this, but I can't remember where it is.

Edit: Found it, it was on the fourth page, Turey, I suggest you put that before the .jar files, so noobs know where it is.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: achtung on January 02, 2007, 10:42:14 pm
I suggest the .jar idea be dropped altogether, and another method be used.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 03, 2007, 12:59:46 am
Guys, guys.  He said he was making a GUI for it.  He's got it covered, just give him time.  ~.^

JAVA is a great way to go, since its not system-specific, but it is truely horrid in terms of GUI and ease-of-use IMO.  A difficult hurdle to overcome, and he's trying, I applaud him completely.

As for the changes I noticed, the only one was the missing EARTH in the background, behind the First Fleet HQ, in the very last "mission" of the FSPort, where the credits scroll.  Not a big deal, just leads me to wonder if it's the only thing missing is all.  It would be nice to know the cause too.  Really could be just a slightly outdated mediavp or... well... god only knows what little things could cause this.  XD
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on January 03, 2007, 02:21:25 am
Guys, guys.  He said he was making a GUI for it.  He's got it covered, just give him time.  ~.^

JAVA is a great way to go, since its not system-specific, but it is truely horrid in terms of GUI and ease-of-use IMO.  A difficult hurdle to overcome, and he's trying, I applaud him completely.

As for the changes I noticed, the only one was the missing EARTH in the background, behind the First Fleet HQ, in the very last "mission" of the FSPort, where the credits scroll.  Not a big deal, just leads me to wonder if it's the only thing missing is all.  It would be nice to know the cause too.  Really could be just a slightly outdated mediavp or... well... god only knows what little things could cause this.  XD

You're right, Java's not too bad because of its multi-platform ability.  The problem is actually coding it properly, as he discovered the other night trying to get it working for linux.  But once the backend is working, the GUI can be coded almost completely separately from the java portion, in a different language altogether even.  Hell, he could probably even do it in a web browser, if resuming could be worked out.  Talk about cross-platform support...although I'm thinking something more like a different front end for each OS, something based on Win32 libraries for windows, qt or gtk for linux, and whatever sdk for native Aqua support is commonly used.

I have a feeling it'll be a while before reliable md5 checking and such get completely implemented.  Getting md5s reliably created for files would currently be up to the mod authors probably, because doing that for all the mods that could get implemented into the installer could get way over one person's head before you know it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 03, 2007, 01:34:04 pm
The other day I downloaded the installer and there were two icons - one for the installer which checked online for updates, and one to revert to retail. After getting the new 3.6.9 final, I noticed your installer was updated as well. So I downloaded it and got rid of the previous version.The new installer has 5 files that I can't open. Did I do something wrong? Where is the icon for auto-update? Thanks
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Post by: Huggybaby on January 03, 2007, 01:40:20 pm
Many of us have the same problem. Turey blames it on our browsers.

Change the .zip to .jar and you can run it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 03, 2007, 01:48:15 pm
Is that difficult? Is there an explanation somewhere?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 03, 2007, 01:56:21 pm
Not difficult if I understand you correctly.

What happens is, you download a file called "FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip". You unzip it and see files inside and become confused.

Instead of unzipping it, rename FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip to FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar, then double click it. If it doesn't run, download his utilities.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg898299.html#msg898299
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 03, 2007, 02:18:54 pm
I have a feeling it'll be a while before reliable md5 checking and such get completely implemented.  Getting md5s reliably created for files would currently be up to the mod authors probably, because doing that for all the mods that could get implemented into the installer could get way over one person's head before you know it.

Checksums are coming soon. I've got a better way to do them than what it's using right now, but I'm having a hard time coding everything when my computer is in the shop.

JAVA is a great way to go, since its not system-specific, but it is truely horrid in terms of GUI and ease-of-use IMO.  A difficult hurdle to overcome, and he's trying, I applaud him completely.

Java's especially difficult when the first time you ever touched it was this October.  I'm doing all this with less than three months of experience in Java.

I suggest the .jar idea be dropped altogether, and another method be used.

Once I get my computer back, I'm hoping to get Excelsior JET (http://=http://www.excelsior-usa.com/jet.html) so that I can distribute the Installer as a .exe, while still being able to use the power of a full programming language like Java instead of the limitations of a scripting language like NSIS.

Edit: Now that the updater is finished I ran it again and this time it said everything is up to date. However, I noticed when it was running that several of the cutscene files failed to download. I'm going to try to download them manually.

I suggest you add an updater log to list any files that didn't download correctly.

Instead of keeping track of failed downloads, the Installer will (soon) try to re-download 4 more times, then ask whether or not it should be skipped.

Also, I suggest you add a "Yes to All" option in the installer/updater so that users can walk away from their PCs while the install/update is in progress.

This will come with the GUI.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 03, 2007, 02:24:35 pm
Renaming the .zip CAN actually be very difficult if you have a newer version of windows and don't have the proper settings or don't really know your way around.

If you cannot see the .zip file extension in the filename then you have to go to the folder options (open My Computer, go to the menu and enter Tools -> Folder Options -> View -> UNCHECK "Hide extensions for known filetypes"

Once that is done, changing the .zip to .jar is as easy as renaming the file from FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip to FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar

Hope that helps anyone!

=)
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Post by: Huggybaby on January 03, 2007, 02:27:43 pm
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UNCHECK "Hide extensions for known filetypes"
Hmm, indeed. I didn't think of that, it's one of the first things I change when I install Windows.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on January 03, 2007, 04:27:57 pm
Guys, guys.  He said he was making a GUI for it.  He's got it covered, just give him time.  ~.^
This is actually something I said I was going to do. :nervous:

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As for the changes I noticed, the only one was the missing EARTH in the background, behind the First Fleet HQ, in the very last "mission" of the FSPort, where the credits scroll.  Not a big deal, just leads me to wonder if it's the only thing missing is all.
This is a FSPort bug, and should be reported in the FSPort forum.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 03, 2007, 05:23:08 pm
Oh, my apologies, Goober5000, I had thought it was Turey's project.  My mistake, thank you for letting me know.

As for the FSPort error, I actually beg to disagree... it should not be an FSPort error, as it does not persist in a manual install of FS2_open, only in Turey's install.  It is notworthy to mention, however, that I have only tried Turey's installer, not Shivans or any of the others.

*shrug*
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 03, 2007, 05:40:18 pm
I tried this and I couldn't get it to work. I renamed it and downloaded the utilities. The problem may be with that. I wasn't sure which file to put it in. :confused:I put it in some Java file. I think I'll wait for a no brainer fix.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 03, 2007, 06:05:09 pm
You have to download the Java JDK off of Sun Microsystems website in order to use the utilities.

You then install the utilities in the same directory you installed the JDK to.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on January 03, 2007, 07:50:40 pm
As for the FSPort error, I actually beg to disagree... it should not be an FSPort error, as it does not persist in a manual install of FS2_open, only in Turey's install.  It is notworthy to mention, however, that I have only tried Turey's installer, not Shivans or any of the others.
Well this is interesting.  Maybe Turey isn't deleting a file, or something.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 03, 2007, 07:55:33 pm
Only thing I can think of is the fsport_3_0_3.vp might not be deleting. That's the only file that had its name changed, so wasn't overwritten. It should have been deleted though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 04, 2007, 12:25:50 am
On my install there was no fsport_3_0_3.vp as it was a fresh install and only the 3.0.4 version was installed.

To be honest, I did a file comparison, and couldn't find any files BY NAME that were different between the two installs.  Go figure.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 04, 2007, 12:30:09 am
How does this compare:
(http://xs411.xs.to/xs411/07014/fsport304date.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: miskat on January 04, 2007, 01:11:37 am
Woa there!

You have quite a number of things I don't recognize.  Several ship VPs, and the FreeSpace2.fc2 file, DoP_SCP.vp, cutscenes.tbl, Angel_CPR_high.vp... heh.  But These are all things I have in NEITHER of my installs.

However, I AM itnerested in the ship VPs and stuff... always interested in things that make this game prettier.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 04, 2007, 01:23:02 am
That's ALL ShivanSPS baby, (plus the fsport 3.04 update). Follow the guide in my signature, Option 1 (still under construction, but quite worthwhile IMHO).
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Post by: miskat on January 04, 2007, 07:41:20 am
Meh... not looking for another installer right now.  hehe  Bout to take a trip home for a week, so getting into something like that right now would be counter productive.  But the new models interest me, and I'm curious as to the effects of the .tbl file and what all that does.

Any clues?  How about where I can get those model files outside of Shivan's pack?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 04, 2007, 02:40:11 pm
There is some error in how the cutscenes play, I think I can find that link.

Don't know about the ships, you'll have to search for them, or ask at the fsport thread.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 04, 2007, 09:12:26 pm
The .jar file didn't need to be updated, but Macintosh Universal Binaries for 3.6.9 Final have been added. Still not completely sure if all the cross-platform stuff works.

For everyone who's been complaining about the lack of user-friendlyness, this paragraph is for you. I understand it's a pain to have to use a .jar file. I understand that it is really annoying to have gone from having a very nice GUI to having to look at the Command line. Rest assured, now that 3.6.9 is out and I've got cross-compatibility fixed, I'll have plenty of time to work on User-friendlyness. Expect the next couple of updates to go a long way towards making things easier for new users.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 05, 2007, 09:32:05 pm
Tired of the .jar files?

Try out the new Installer .exe (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip)!

This is just a test. If anything doesn't work, tell me.

The .exe doesn't need the Java Utilities - hell, it doesn't even need Java!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 05, 2007, 11:39:56 pm
Doesn't work yet. It pops up a window that disappears immediately.

So, I copied it to root and ran it from cmd (after shortening the name) to see what I could see.

(http://xs411.xs.to/xs411/07016/FS2Installerror.jpg)

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 05, 2007, 11:45:09 pm
****. Haven't used this before, will take a look at that.

EDIT: Link updated, try it now.

I know it's 20MB. You want small, go with the .jar. You want user-friendly, go with the .exe. Besides, 20MB is small compared to downloading the JRE, which you would need to do for the .jar if you didn't have it. Also, the mediavps are huge, so 20MB won't make all that much of a difference.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 06, 2007, 01:47:45 am
Yep, it works now, good job!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on January 07, 2007, 10:27:57 pm
The links that get the mve cutscenes from mydatabus failed in the java installer.  Don't know how long they've been dead.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 07, 2007, 10:31:58 pm
mydatabus stinks. I have good ones in my sig. If there's too much text to wade through, search on cutscenes.  ;7
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Post by: Turey on January 07, 2007, 10:45:08 pm
Wow. I just logged onto mydatabus and I got this message:
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You are over your bandwidth quota for public files today. Your public files may not be able to be downloaded until tomarrow.

 :eek: :eek2:

I guess the Installer is too popular for its own good.  :nod:

I'll see what I can do about moving those files. In the meantime, use the .ogg movies instead.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 07, 2007, 11:03:43 pm
I couldn't get The Babylon Project off of mydatabus for days. It seems to cap out every day. I can't find out what their limit is and I guess it's immaterial---they have a cap and it's reached quickly.

I know the good thing about mydatabus is the direct linking, I'm keeping my eyes peeled for an alternate.

BTW I uploaded TBP to another site that doesn't have caps, it took me 5 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on January 07, 2007, 11:28:15 pm
I tried the .jar and this happened:
The jar file "FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the Console for possible error messages
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on January 08, 2007, 12:59:49 am
It's ok.  I got the ogg vp files from Huggy's guide, and the mve's I just copied from my retail CDs (forgot they were just sitting in the filesystem and not hidden in some installer cab file).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 08, 2007, 02:05:44 am
chief1983, you probably know this, but in case someone else doesn't:

Save yourself some hard drive space. The ogg's and the mve's do the same thing, so you only need one or the other.

I like the oggvp files that Hunter made. One is for FS1, one is for FS2, so 2 files will replace 20 and work perfectly.

The only reason to get the 20 files is if you want to view them outside the game, but that's cheating. Play the game and EARN the right to view them I say.  :D

PS I'm uploading the iso's for three FS1 CD's now. Glad I got them before all the servers went down. When I'm done in 15-20 hours I'll post the links in my guide, natch. Plus I 7zipped them so they'll be much smaller than the previous iso downloads.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 08, 2007, 02:20:17 am
I tried the .jar and this happened:
The jar file "FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar" couldn't be launched. Check the Console for possible error messages

Do you have JRE 1.5?

I saw that error message on a mac that didn't have JRE 1.5.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 08, 2007, 04:55:40 pm
People who have mods included in the Installer:

With the exception of Axem, who's already done this, you all need to go to http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/ , find the text file that contains your mod, mirror it somewhere, and post a link to it. If you want to change the contents, go ahead, but I will still need the link.


People who have mods but haven't included them in the Installer:

Make a text file that will download your mod by following the instructions here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html), then post a link. The Installer is run over 100 times a day, and that's HUGE exposure for your mod.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 09, 2007, 07:11:48 am
I like the oggvp files that Hunter made. One is for FS1, one is for FS2, so 2 files will replace 20 and work perfectly.

This was pretty much my reason of compiling them into a VP, it keeps everything from looking cluttered. And if you wanted to view the ogg cutscenes and have the VP, you can just double click the movie in vpview and it will open it right up, that is if you have the right codecs, or a player to play the oggs.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 09, 2007, 06:00:32 pm
Ok Turey I just got a new router and I'm back online searching like a mad man cause the updater says its outdated , so I dl this new and improved one and all I get is a cmd box that has >>>> Freespace 2 Directory at the top with a blinking cursor, what did I do wrong this time?

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 09, 2007, 07:03:45 pm
Ok Turey I just got a new router and I'm back online searching like a mad man cause the updater says its outdated , so I dl this new and improved one and all I get is a cmd box that has >>>> Freespace 2 Directory at the top with a blinking cursor, what did I do wrong this time?

Nothing. I'm still working (or goober is still working, depending on if he gets time to do it before I finish learning how to do GUIs) on the GUI for the new version. So, for now, It's still command line. Simply type in C:\Games\FreeSpace2 and it should work.
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 09, 2007, 09:08:45 pm
Ok trying the installer for the first time.  Was already runnng 3.6.9 final and chose the update option.  Seems to be working fine execpt it told me my FS2_Open and debug .exe files were out of date.  Any idea what would cause this?
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Post by: wolfen on January 09, 2007, 09:10:16 pm
ok brother thanks, I'll try that and get back with ya. I would be up on your latest but my dam linksys router bought the farm and it took a while to find a replacement. got  d-link now with no security so I can use my own, maybe I can ever get in on a online game now :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 09, 2007, 10:20:31 pm
Ok trying the installer for the first time.  Was already runnng 3.6.9 final and chose the update option.  Seems to be working fine execpt it told me my FS2_Open and debug .exe files were out of date.  Any idea what would cause this?

The fact that you hadn't run the Installer before. I'm working on getting it to see files that are already there, but weren't installed by the installer.
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 09, 2007, 10:44:53 pm
Glad to know it's being worked on.  Any easy way to uninstall all but the 3.6.9 exe files?  I wan't to go back to testing without any mods.  I know this has probably been asked before but I've had too many beers to read 9 pages of replies.  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 09, 2007, 10:47:32 pm
Glad to know it's being worked on.  Any easy way to uninstall all but the 3.6.9 exe files?  I wan't to go back to testing without any mods.  I know this has probably been asked before but I've had too many beers to read 9 pages of replies.  :D

just don't have a mod folder selected.
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 09, 2007, 11:20:08 pm
Guess I should have said mods, mediavps, etc. Don't want that hacked tables message in multi.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 09, 2007, 11:27:31 pm
Guess I should have said mods, mediavps, etc. Don't want that hacked tables message in multi.

just don't have a mod folder selected.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 09, 2007, 11:31:15 pm
I don't have a mods folder or anything else selected and never did but I still get the hacked tables messge.  All I did was run the installer and let it download all the stuff (except 3.6.9).  Never turned on a mod or flag. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 10, 2007, 12:26:47 am
I don't have a mods folder or anything else selected and never did but I still get the hacked tables messge.  All I did was run the installer and let it download all the stuff (except 3.6.9).  Never turned on a mod or flag. 

Yes, but the Installer automatically selects mediavps as your mod if you download them.
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Post by: karajorma on January 10, 2007, 04:10:39 am
Yep. Go to the launcher and select the mod tab. Select No Mods. End of hacked tables messages.

When you want to play with the mediavps again simply go back and select them as your mod.

Being able to do this with multiplayer was actually one of the main reasons we moved to the current mod system.
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Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 10, 2007, 04:26:56 am
Mediavps ought to be valid aswell as regular tables. Im not sure how this can be done, but im sure you can find a solution by the time 3.7 comes out.
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 10, 2007, 07:56:43 am
OK that might be the problem.  I only went to the features tab and made sure everything was disabled.  I did one better though.  I renamed my freespace2 folder to freespace2.mediavps and then copied my freespace2 folder from one of my other machines.  Worked like a charm.  Now all I need to do is rename the freespace2 folder to freespace2.original and the freespace2.mediavps back to freespace2 when I want to switch.  Takes up a bit more space but does eliminate everything but the exe files when testing.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 10, 2007, 08:21:24 am
FS2open seems to show hacked tables no matter what, use toms build if you dont want to see that ****. Thats what I have been doing. I really dont care what other SCP people say about toms build, it is simply the easiest way to get started on multiplayer hands down. you can get toms build Here (http://www.fs2downloads.com/files/fs2.exe) if you dont already have it. Then after you replace the old fs2.exe with it, delete the commandline_fso.cfg in your root data folder or simply rename it so that toms doesnt read it and get confused and then your ready to go! You dont need to worry about fs2open complaining without the file, when you run fs2open again it will just remake it. I totally support toms build, because its just simply easier to setup and definitly not as confusing to setup as fs2open.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on January 10, 2007, 10:09:54 am
I thought it was just that there's no official 3.6.9 mediavps yet, and the error will stick around until those get released.  Then you should be able to use the mediavps online as well as stock fs2 files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on January 10, 2007, 10:46:05 am
FS2open seems to show hacked tables no matter what


No it doesn't.

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use toms build if you dont want to see that ****.


Or install FS2_Open properly in the first place. I've just tested this. It really doesn't complain about hacked tables if you have patched to 1.2 and run with no mods. If you have mods installed in the wrong place and they're causing you to get hacked table messages that's your own bloody fault.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 10, 2007, 06:12:07 pm
FS2open seems to show hacked tables no matter what


No it doesn't.

Thats what you said on messenger :P

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use toms build if you dont want to see that ****.


Or install FS2_Open properly in the first place. I've just tested this. It really doesn't complain about hacked tables if you have patched to 1.2 and run with no mods. If you have mods installed in the wrong place and they're causing you to get hacked table messages that's your own bloody fault.

Well then tell that to FS2NETD WHEN IT COMPLAINS ABOUT MY ****ING FILES. Toms build runs no problem so obviously it isnt my files.

I totally support toms build, because its just simply easier to setup and definitly not as confusing to setup as fs2open.

The fact still stands, Toms build is easier to setup then the confusing SCP build.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 10, 2007, 06:47:05 pm
I don't care if I have the hacked tables bug or not I just want to get it playable online LOL.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 10, 2007, 06:51:51 pm
Kara and [DW]-Hunter, could you two try to stay on-topic? I hate to have to tell you guys to stop, as you're both more-respected members of the community than I am. Talk it over in the multi forum, maybe?

The above paragraph was not meant to be insulting in any way.

I don't care if I have the hacked tables bug or not I just want to get it playable online LOL.

the Installer SHOULD work with multi by default. If it has a problem, I need to know about it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 08:58:32 pm
Since I have the outdated media vps, when using the new .exe installer, do I need to revert to retail first, or can it just download over top of the old? Thanks.

Sorry- I guess my question is what are the bare minimum files needed to bring my version of FSO up to snuff? Also, I'm curious about mods that the installer can download for you. It doesn't say on your website that you updated the FSPort mod to 3.04- does this mean the installer will install FSPort 3.03? Or rather, I assume, because the FSPort files are always hosted in the same place, it just automatically gets the latest version.

I'm just trying to figure out the way that makes it easiest to update everything that needs it- almost like patching the game.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 10, 2007, 09:19:17 pm
Since I have the outdated media vps, when using the new .exe installer, do I need to revert to retail first, or can it just download over top of the old? Thanks.
Yes, you should be able to just download over.

Sorry- I guess my question is what are the bare minimum files needed to bring my version of FSO up to snuff? Also, I'm curious about mods that the installer can download for you. It doesn't say on your website that you updated the FSPort mod to 3.04- does this mean the installer will install FSPort 3.03? Or rather, I assume, because the FSPort files are always hosted in the same place, it just automatically gets the latest version.
I really need to update the website, but the included mods change so fast. Installer gets fsport 3.04, and also the Installer now includes an SCP-ready version of the demo campaign, provided by Axem.

I'm just trying to figure out the way that makes it easiest to update everything that needs it- almost like patching the game.

An Updater is included.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 09:42:20 pm
I just downloaded the zipped .exe installer at 5500 kb/s.

I have never seen that before. Jeebus.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 10, 2007, 09:48:17 pm
I just downloaded the zipped .exe installer at 5500 kb/s.

I have never seen that before. Jeebus.

Thank [DW]-Hunter. He got me the hosting.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 09:51:13 pm
Now if only the FSO files would download at the same speed.

The updater is running, all green lights. Amazing work as usual.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 11:05:41 pm
It said that the .mve cut scenes were outdated, when really I'd taken them off the retail CD and put them in the FreeSpace2 directory. So I told it no, not to update.

Now it says the .ogg cut scenes are outdated- what are they?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 10, 2007, 11:24:32 pm
No, they haven't changed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 11:27:24 pm
Yes, but I'm curious as to what they are.

I know .mve's are the intro/ending type cutscenes, what are the .ogg?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 10, 2007, 11:31:48 pm
Same thing, in the new format. They're half as big too.

Links to explanations are in my sig, find the cutscenes section.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 11:33:37 pm
Now, I assume using .ogg cutscenes would cause problems with retail FS2.

Are there any improvements besides size that would make me want to use them instead of my retail .mve's?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 10, 2007, 11:56:19 pm
Not that I know of. If you already have the mve's, save yourself the bandwidth.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 10, 2007, 11:58:00 pm
Thanks much :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 11, 2007, 12:38:16 am
I suppose my only gripe is that you have to sit through it downloading everything, to tell it what you want to update (using the .exe updater).

It'd be better if it scanned your files first, then asked you what you wanted to update, then downloaded and installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 11, 2007, 05:12:40 am
you ought to concider a more user friendly interface on your FSOInstaller turey, the dos screen seems a little imtimidating for noobs
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 11, 2007, 11:28:30 am
I find it odd that canceling the installer at any time means that you have to restart the whole thing, regardless of how for you got. I assume it doesn't start installing anything until all the downloading is done.

I got to the point where it told me that my FS1Port extra were old/non existent, would I like to download? I said yes, and a little while into it I canceled, because I realized that the FS1Port extras were the .mve's which I already had. I canceled it and figured I could run it again and skip over everything I'd already downloaded, but this wasn't the case.

So I guess two things. What about having the installer search for already downloaded core files (or installed right after they're downloaded), so that canceling the downloader doesn't mean you start from square one again. Also, having it search more than one directory for the required files. I'm not sure the best way to do this, but all my FS2 .mve's are in my root game directory, and all my FS1Port .mve's are in my fspor\data directory, and the installer told me that both of them dont exist.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 11, 2007, 02:01:43 pm
I suppose my only gripe is that you have to sit through it downloading everything, to tell it what you want to update (using the .exe updater).

It'd be better if it scanned your files first, then asked you what you wanted to update, then downloaded and installer.

That's the very next fix on my list. It's coming, don't worry.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 11, 2007, 04:35:57 pm
Well Turey I said I'd get back with ya and I am, I downloaded your newest updater,and updated FS2 last night, heres my assessment, its a little slower than the last one I used, but it still works, Does what I needed, it updated FS2,  I'm not a computer god or anything, but if I can update using it then anybody can.

All in all its not that hard and I like  it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 11, 2007, 11:15:57 pm
Installer updated, changelog to follow. These things have been added to the Installer (but not the Updater... yet.)

1. Move all the needed user interaction to the front, so it can be left alone after you start it.
3. Preliminary GUI.
5. Add descriptions to sections. (isn't being used yet, need to fix Updater first.)

The largest complaint with the Java Installer has been fixed. There is now a GUI. Try it out!

EDIT: Hunter tells me the .exe doesn't work. Let me test it on another machine and I'll see what's wrong.

EDIT2: I've upload a version of the .exe that I THINK will work. Try it out, but I won't be able to do anything to fix problems till morning. I KNOW the .jar works, it's just the .exe that is suspect. If you can't get the .exe to work, use the .jar

EDIT3: I know the .exe works now. Have fun!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 12, 2007, 08:59:08 pm
Installer and Updater updated, changelog to follow. These things have been added:

2. Updater check file existence and size, won't re-download if it exists and is the same size. It even checks inside of the .zip files!

Updater GUI

Updater has all interaction up front.

These are coming tonight:

3. merge the Retail and Open Installers. Also includes checking for retail existence. (This will only happen once the Open Installer is as user-friendly as the current Retail Installer.)

Give all sections descriptions



Things to note about operation of the Updater:

If you already have some files, but the updater hasn't been seeing them, make sure you select the section you have the files for, and THEN it will check if you have them, and if you do, it won't re-download them.


EDIT: Alright, I just got word from the computer repair place that my laptop is completely dead. So that's going to throw off my whole coding schedule. Expect a lot of delays as I try to find a machine I can continue working on.

EDIT2: Now that the Updater recognizes files already installed, [DW]-Hunter and I have added the Retail files to the Open Installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 13, 2007, 12:25:37 am
The installer should work as a full installer now, I have also added modding tools to the download as an option.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Q on January 13, 2007, 08:56:00 am
good progress dudes  :yes:

however i ran in problems after playing for a few days now. actually i think the first error message appeared while playing the sync campaign. now after completing it, i am unable to start the game with almost any fs2 mods or even without mods at all.

i am not sure if this thread is the right place to post about this problem / means if its linked to your installer in some way or if the source is to be found with FSO or the sync campaign. so i would appreciate a little guidance for my problem here a lot.

ive put the repetitive part at the end.
Code: [Select]
Error: icons.tbl(line 6:
Error: Missing required token: [#Start]. Found [:]  instead.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Error: weapons.tbl(line 512:
Error: Required token = [#End] or [$Name:], found [@Laser Glow: 2_laserglow03]
in weapon: GTVA Rapid Laser.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Error: weapons.tbl(line 513:
Error: Required token = [#End] or [$Name:], found [@Laser Color: 190, 150, 250]
in weapon: GTVA Rapid Laser.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Error: weapons.tbl(line 514:
Error: Required token = [#End] or [$Name:], found [@Laser Color2: 190, 150, 250]
in weapon: GTVA Rapid Laser.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Code: [Select]
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Parse\PARSELO.CPP
Line: 659
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

note that i have updated all files to the latest version with the latest version of your installer from a clean fs2 install - with no problems for the first few days.
also there is no icons.tbl or weapons.tbl to be found as a single file inside my freespace folder.

in addition ive attached a dxdiag if that could be of any use.


launcher6.ini
Code: [Select]
[launcher]
exe_filepath = D:\Games\Freespace\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe;
game_flags =  -spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -orbradar -rearm_timer -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -snd_preload -show_mem_usage ;
active_mod = ;

any help appreciate a lot - cheers!

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2007, 10:32:12 am
You have Inferno RC1 VPs stuck in the wrong place, if you're not running any mods.

Just in case, shame on you Turey, you didn't put stuff in the right folders. :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 13, 2007, 11:12:33 am
why the **** do you have 11 partitions?!?!?!?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on January 13, 2007, 01:00:30 pm
Let's not start that up again :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 13, 2007, 01:42:00 pm
Just in case, shame on you Turey, you didn't put stuff in the right folders. :P

Unless [DW]-Hunter changed something while I wasn't looking, the Installer doesn't download INF RC1.

EDIT:I checked, it still doesn't download any Inferno stuff.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 13, 2007, 05:42:38 pm
Who said there was an inferno build in there? AFAIK theres nothing even related to inferno in the installer.  :wtf:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Q on January 14, 2007, 02:26:43 am
thanks guys for the help  :)

Cobra was on the right track - i had a "INF_Main.vp" file in main FS2 folder somehow.
i havent put any other custom files in my FS2 folder so far. as far as the inferno stuff
is concerned, i double checked that stuff and its the only file i have from inferno, despite
the other 6 files coming along with that package.
well strange. something for the space of unexplainable mysteries  ::)

again thanks a lot!

ps: i guess some small program / addition to FSO to check for a clean FS2 install would
help newcomers tremendously  :nod:
before this installer it must have been hell  :blah:
i am coming from the ofp scene which is very modable as well and has the same problems,
so thats nothing new to me  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on January 14, 2007, 04:14:24 am
Checking for a clean install is kinda hard cause there are so many ways you can screw up. I do give manual instructions on how to clean up in my FAQ.

As for it being hell to install before, it was tricky. Again my FAQ explains what you have to do manually and it's not an easy thing :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 14, 2007, 06:48:27 am
earlier it was installing the wrong root_fs2.vp when its fixed now. It was uploading GotY 1.2 version tables.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 14, 2007, 07:25:44 pm
Hey, this installer is great. So far its complete when it comes to asking me what i wanted to download.
Just cleared out my fs2 old install to usher in the 3.6.9 release the lazy way. I also figured out why this installer can run on linux...because of java. That's cool and all, and the ui of the interface wasn't that bad really, it just went along with the theming of my xp, after that it had some blue buttons and that was it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 14, 2007, 08:30:00 pm
I just noticed that there's a problem with the pre-existing file checking in the Updater. I have the fix coded and tested, and I'll re-compile and upload after dinner.

EDIT: Uploaded. Now, it can even check the files within zip files without downloading the whole zip file!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 15, 2007, 01:25:49 pm
Turey, are you uploading a new version?

The file size keeps changing, but it's not 20MB and won't unzip.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 15, 2007, 01:39:43 pm
Turey, are you uploading a new version?

The file size keeps changing, but it's not 20MB and won't unzip.

Yes. I'm uploading. I found some bugs in the way the Updater was handling already-installed files, so I fixed it.

EDIT: Upload finished, should work now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 15, 2007, 04:22:14 pm
Just a suggestion, maybe not practical:
Have the GUI ask this question first:
Quote
Do you want to use the Wizard (Recommended for Beginners), or Tree (Advanced) view?
Then, if the user selects Tree view, have all of the yes/no questions as a list of check boxes, sort of like the Retail installer.  That way no-one has to go through all the questions if they don't want to, they can just select/deselect and go.
Of course, maybe you're already working on something like this, or maybe that wouldn't work...  but I thought it was worth suggesting.

 ;) :cool: Great work though, keep it up!!!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 15, 2007, 04:41:29 pm
I don't have a tree view coded yet, though I'm working on it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 15, 2007, 06:09:00 pm
:yes: :cool:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 16, 2007, 01:52:18 am
Lol, extremely simple to install a full featured game. The only thing that sucked was that there's a problem with the fsport audio, and of course this is definitely sounding like an unrelated problem to the installer.
Anyways sweet, now i can get people this game a lot easier :)
For reference i like it just the way it is. The ability to resume eeeehh, i don't care about that, good thing to go for, i mean i did like download a couple of gigs for the game. The dos windows is cool, yes it was scary at first because it brings up this console window and i'm like wtf is this? Then i was patient and the gui part came up. After that the dos window continually posting how far it got with what part of the download was cool as hell.
But, yeah, a wizard for beginner users would be recommended, same thing for the advanced portion as well.
If you could make it sort of like the fs2 installer...the part of it where you get to check and uncheck what you want installed, that would really make the installer go much faster, as opposed to confirmation question after confirmation question. Just check off what you want installed with everything the installer has to offer to install, then click download. Also perhaps another notion of making the installer create a directory for fs2 to be installed too along with the existing choose a folder to install to feature. With the installer i had to go into my games partition, make the fs2 folder, then make the installer choose that. That little side trip wasn't hard, but yet another thing that can confuse noobs (reminds me of when my friend installed his doom3 with the install directory as nothing more than "c:\"  :lol: ). Or maybe the installer does let me create a folder and i just missed it :pimp:
Anyway, it works perfectly as it is, since it is java, you probably could get rid of the dos window for a graphical representation of the download and installation progress (then again i know **** of java).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 16, 2007, 02:18:36 am
Or maybe the installer does let me create a folder and i just missed it :pimp:

one of the buttons at the top of the choose folder dialog is a create folder button. I just don't remember which one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Der Gilb on January 16, 2007, 07:20:29 am

hio
i got the hotu version, but somehow with the retail VPs at correct size
the MVEs were just dummy with 1KB, so i ran your openinstaller and selected everything for PORT and OPEN
also the new .ogg files, but when the dos window disappeared there were neither the FS1 nor the FS2 .ogg files
im downloading them now manually and hope to put them in the right directories
btw: should i move the new media_vps now to the main folder or they work fine where the installer puts them ?
the readme in the media_vp directory tell me to move them :S
somehow its all a little confusing here
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 16, 2007, 10:08:58 am
Or maybe the installer does let me create a folder and i just missed it :pimp:

one of the buttons at the top of the choose folder dialog is a create folder button. I just don't remember which one.

See pic:


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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: calvin on January 16, 2007, 10:36:07 am
Hello,

I havn't read the entire thread and so I'm not sure if it was mentioned anywhere.
But I think it would be nice, if you can read the size of a package before marking if for download.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 16, 2007, 02:12:35 pm
but when the dos window disappeared there were neither the FS1 nor the FS2 .ogg files

You shouldn't need to download them again. The .oggs are there, they've just been packaged into a .vp file. If the intro movie plays, then they're there.

btw: should i move the new media_vps now to the main folder or they work fine where the installer puts them ?
the readme in the media_vp directory tell me to move them :S
somehow its all a little confusing here

The mediavps are in the correct spot. That readme is old.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 16, 2007, 07:11:37 pm
Hey installer dude :) (Turey) any new FS2 updater's around that I need? Last one I downloaded was the one where you have to type c:\games\feespace2

Yea I'm too dam lazy to read  ;7 For real I actually don't have the time to search around I got 3 cars in the yard to fix by Friday.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 16, 2007, 07:14:22 pm
Yeah, grab the windows version from the first post. It has a file select, and a basic GUI.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 16, 2007, 07:50:45 pm
All the way back there? Man this game isn't liek teh one I played back in the day, they clogged everything up with new stuff LOL, this place is sooooo better organized.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Der Gilb on January 17, 2007, 09:52:06 am
You shouldn't need to download them again. The .oggs are there, they've just been packaged into a .vp file. If the intro movie plays, then they're there.

i checked the folders again
no more VPs to find then the normal ones, smarty, sparky, etc.
when i move the manual downloaded .oggs again there is no movie either (same with FSport)
but ok ... as i manually downloaded all the .oggs there is no problem
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 17, 2007, 10:28:09 am
Hey, um... question, but it looks like the installer deletes the .zip files after install.  Could there be made an option to keep them?
And another option to do a local install from a user-specified directory, only downloading updated parts?
And, if so, then if when doing a local install and updated parts are found, ask if the local install dir should be updated, or if the updates should just be installed, but keep the local install dir the same.

(e.g., for burning a CD/DVD and installing from it 4 distribution to friends who don't have a high-speed internet connection.  Also, this would save some bandwidth for whoever is hosting the files possibly.)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 17, 2007, 11:23:17 am
Hey, um... question, but it looks like the installer deletes the .zip files after install.  Could there be made an option to keep them?

Just rezip them using either the windows archiver, winzip, winrar, or 7zip , it wont take but more then 3 minutes to do it. If you dont have any zip programs and dont know how to use windows as your zip program, right click on the file you want to zip, then goto the send to menu, and select compressed (zipped) folder. (I'm assuming you have XP)

And another option to do a local install from a user-specified directory, only downloading updated parts?
And, if so, then if when doing a local install and updated parts are found, ask if the local install dir should be updated, or if the updates should just be installed, but keep the local install dir the same.

If you used the installer to install it, you don't need to worry about the update stuff, it will have all that information saved, and only ask you if you want to update the outdated stuff.

(e.g., for burning a CD/DVD and installing from it 4 distribution to friends who don't have a high-speed internet connection.  Also, this would save some bandwidth for whoever is hosting the files possibly.)

I appreciate your kindness to keep my bandwidth down, but if you want to copy it to cd, you MUST zip the whole thing, you can just burn it directly to cd, or it will have read-only errors once u copy it to a hard drive (and if you play it off of the cd) which you will find fixing it out of the question.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Steel01 on January 17, 2007, 11:54:25 am
but when the dos window disappeared there were neither the FS1 nor the FS2 .ogg files

You shouldn't need to download them again. The .oggs are there, they've just been packaged into a .vp file. If the intro movie plays, then they're there.

Ummm... Turey, I can comfirm that the .ogg cutscenes are not downloaded in your installer. Your installer points to:
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS1OGGcutscenepack.zip and
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS2MVEcutscenepack.zip
which are not there anymore. They are now at:
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp

      Steel01
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 17, 2007, 12:05:34 pm
Hunter answered everything satisfactorily, but there's some stuff I'd like to add.

Hey, um... question, but it looks like the installer deletes the .zip files after install.  Could there be made an option to keep them?
Sure, I can do this. The question is, why?

And another option to do a local install from a user-specified directory, only downloading updated parts?
I don't think I'm understanding this correctly. You want to have the Installer search for files, first from a local location, say D:\, and if it doesn't find them there, or if they're outdated, to get them from the web?

If I'm correct, why don't you just copy the files to the install directory, then run the Updater?

(e.g., for burning a CD/DVD and installing from it 4 distribution to friends who don't have a high-speed internet connection.  Also, this would save some bandwidth for whoever is hosting the files possibly.)

How to easily distribute FreeSpace Open using the Installer:
1. Run the Installer, give it an empty folder (say, C:\FreeSpace2 instead of C:\Games\FreeSpace2 ). Select the sections you want to include in your distribution.
2. Once it finishes, copy the Updater exe and the "rt" folder to C:\FreeSpace2\Installer
3. Zip up the entire C:\FreeSpace2 folder.
4. Create a readme file that says:
Code: [Select]
Steps to Install FreeSpace Open:
1. Unzip the zipped folder to C:\Games\, so that the included folder is at C:\Games\FreeSpace2
2. Make sure you're connected to the Internet.
3. Run C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Installer\FreeSpaceOpenUpdater.exe
4. Follow the prompts, and it will make sure that your install is up-to-date.
5. Run C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Launcher.exe
6. Make sure that OpenGL is selected on the Video tab.
7. Make sure that the box on the Mod tab says mediavps
8. Go to the Features tab, and select the options you want. Double-click an option to find out more about it.
9. Hit Apply, then Run.
10. Have Fun!
11. If you have problems, visit www.hard-light.net
5. Burn the readme file and the zipped folder to a disc.
6. Give it to people.


but when the dos window disappeared there were neither the FS1 nor the FS2 .ogg files

You shouldn't need to download them again. The .oggs are there, they've just been packaged into a .vp file. If the intro movie plays, then they're there.

Ummm... Turey, I can comfirm that the .ogg cutscenes are not downloaded in your installer. Your installer points to:
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS1OGGcutscenepack.zip and
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS2MVEcutscenepack.zip
which are not there anymore. They are now at:
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp
http://www.fszmirror.com/files/FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp

      Steel01

Yeah, I know. That changed this morning, and I'll fix it now.

EDIT: Should be fixed now. Tell me if there's any more problems.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Steel01 on January 17, 2007, 12:16:39 pm
Yeah, I know. That changed this morning, and I'll fix it now.

EDIT: Should be fixed now. Tell me if there's any more problems.
Works great now, thanks.

    Steel01
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 17, 2007, 04:24:30 pm
idk about everyone else, but i was able to download the ogg cutscenes just fine with the installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 18, 2007, 03:40:07 pm
idk about everyone else, but i was able to download the ogg cutscenes just fine with the installer.

Yea me too, I have all of them, so far anyway LOL.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 19, 2007, 01:47:46 am
A thousand apologies for being too lazy to read the thread, tho im sure it probably isnt listed.

But does FS Open allow you to install FS1 as well? I downloaded FSO, but it didnt come with a Freespace 1 install.


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE PUT A STICKY UP SAYING WHERE AND HOW TO GET FREESPACE 1 !!!!!  :hopping:

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 19, 2007, 03:01:47 am
There is a plethora of locations:

Get it from http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,38195.msg896412.html#msg896412 ,

Or from Turey's installer, http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.0.html

Or download the SCP port here http://huggybaby.fs2downloads.com/FS1_Port_3.rar (388MB) or
http://huggybaby.fs2downloads.com/Fs1_port_3.7z (227MB, very slow to unzip)


Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Munuxi on January 19, 2007, 01:46:50 pm
I used the latest installer and apparently it comes with an option to install an SCP-enhanced version of the Demo. However, I can´t seem to get it to work right. The files I got were FS2Demo media vp and a notepad file. I took out the root file and renamed the FS2Demo file to root_fs2. All that did was crash the game whenever I selected the ready room.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 19, 2007, 02:10:27 pm
Yikes!
Quote
I took out the root file and renamed the FS2Demo file to root_fs2.
You definitely don't want to do that! How did you get the idea?

You don't change anything:
(http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07035/dontchange.jpg)

You run it as a mod.
You need FS2 installed normally, then select the FS2 demo folder in the mod tab of the launcher.
(http://xs511.xs.to/xs511/07035/FS2demomod.jpg)

Then from the campaign room
(http://xs311.xs.to/xs311/07035/campaignroom.jpg)

Select it
(http://xs211.xs.to/xs211/07035/demoselectmod.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 19, 2007, 02:28:03 pm
A thousand apologies for being too lazy to read the thread, tho im sure it probably isnt listed.

But does FS Open allow you to install FS1 as well? I downloaded FSO, but it didnt come with a Freespace 1 install.


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE PUT A STICKY UP SAYING WHERE AND HOW TO GET FREESPACE 1 !!!!!  :hopping:



The installer let me install the fs1 port even with the ogg cutscenes for it, it probably can for you.
Congrats to turey. This thing ran absolutely perfectly and did what it was supposed to perfectly? How many other people had problems? It's probably based on installer updating, now that i think about it. I downloaded the installer on sunday and let it run for the day for it to grab everything (i grabbed the installer on a good release of it).
The installer is great is you want a fresh new install of fs with all of the new ****. I mean after the installer was done, yes the file tree for fs2 was quite different than installing from the cds and applying vp's and stuff myself, one such thing to note upon was the lack of unnecessary **** that installs with the cds (stuff like idk, advertisement **** from 1999 and other crap). It's only the fs2 core directories now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 20, 2007, 05:17:53 pm
Effective now, I'll be taking a break from actively coding for the Installer. I'll still be on Hard Light, and I'll still help people out.

I've got two more features I'd like to put in (multi-line descriptions, and the merging of the Installer and Updater), then there will be no new features for a while (I don't know how long.).

Coding for the Installer has become more of a chore than a joy, and I know from experience that if I don't take a break now, I'll lose all interest in this and it will be discontinued.

The Installer will still be updated with the latest files, you just won't get any more features for a while.

Sorry about this, but I'm sure you'd rather wait for new features than have the Installer removed altogether.

Expect to see the last two features appear sometime today.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 20, 2007, 06:45:14 pm
Installer Updated, changelog to follow.

The Installer and Updater have been merged. Simply run the Installer again to update it.

Descriptions can now have multiple lines.

You find any bugs, report them. I'll fix bugs, but I won't add any features.

Just to re-iterate:

People who have mods included in the Installer:

With the exception of Axem, who's already done this, you all need to go to http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/ , find the text file that contains your mod, mirror it somewhere, and post a link to it. If you want to change the contents, go ahead, but I will still need the link.


People who have mods but haven't included them in the Installer:

Make a text file that will download your mod by following the instructions here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html), then post a link. The Installer is run over 100 times a day, and that's HUGE exposure for your mod.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on January 20, 2007, 07:25:12 pm
Thanks Turey!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 20, 2007, 09:21:24 pm
My freespace directory was screwed, so i had to delete the whole thing and re-install it.

I downloaded this installer, but when i tried running it, it brought up a command prompt file, asking for Freespace 2 Directory.

I gave it one, but then it quickly closed, and opened up an internet explorer window, saying '404 file not found' , or some crap like that....

any suggestions?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 20, 2007, 09:26:44 pm
Try downloading again. It sounds like you've got an old version.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 21, 2007, 01:21:04 pm
This doesn't count as a feature.  :doubt:

Installer now includes multi missions and voice files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 21, 2007, 03:06:42 pm
Downloaded again, ran again, and it brings up more errors that say the following : -

 
Freespace Open  3.6.9 Macintosh <Universal Binary> Executables
      Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
                        At java.lang.void<unknown><unknown source>
                        At java.lang.void<unknown><unknown source>
                        At java.lang.void<unknown><unknown source>
                        At java.lang.void<unknown><unknown source>



From then, it just stops.

I think that the installer thinks im running a macintosh ?  :wtf:

someone help? Ive downloaded it over n over again, ran the installer again and again , following instructions....did anyone else get this problem ? if so, how did u fix it ?



Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 21, 2007, 03:36:05 pm
where are you downloading from?

EDIT: I found a problem with that section. Try running it again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 21, 2007, 10:50:31 pm
**EDIT**

where are you downloading from?

EDIT: I found a problem with that section. Try running it again.

Fixed. Many thanks.  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 23, 2007, 01:25:46 am
GRRRR....alright, now im having problems in FS1 port. The asteroids arent showing up. In the mission where i have to escort the galatea, theres just empty space with white brackets around it, and i cant hit anything. Even in the 2nd mission where i need to hunt down the vasudans, they're not hiding behind asteroids....they're right there !  :wtf:

help ?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on January 23, 2007, 03:59:39 am
Not until you stop spamming
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 23, 2007, 07:28:08 am
Ah, VC, you should prolly post that here:
FreeSpace Conversion (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,39.0.html)
Most likely under the sub-topic "FreeSpace Port 3.0.4 released!"

IMO, that should be called "FreeSpace Port" not "FreeSpace Conversion", as the hosted project is not called "FreeSpace Conversion"... but whatever.

;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 24, 2007, 12:39:38 am
Fixed.....sorry bout that. Simply had to enable jpg/tga textures.  :rolleyes:


But i'm still having problems with OpenGL. Some mods (Transcend for instance) -NEED- you to run OpenGL. I cant for some reason. Whenever i open into the main hall, past the 'select pilot' screen, the screen starts flickering like mad and i cant do anything, except CTRL+ALT+DELETE and close the damn thing.


Anyone else had this problem ? If so, how is it fixed? Help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 24, 2007, 08:06:16 am
Find out what type of graphics card your system has:
Right-click on "My Computer" and hit "Properties" OR
Open "System" from the "Control Panel" OR
hold down your "Win" key and press the "Pause|Break" key.

This will open the "System Properties" box.

Click the "Hardware" tab, then click the "Device Manager" button.

Click the "+" sign next to "Display adapters"
-look what it says, for example, see the attached pic.
eg, mine is an Nvidia GeForce 6200

Now, search Google for "[your manufacturer] homepage" or, if it's
ATI: http://ati.amd.com/
Nvidia: http://www.nvidia.com/
Once you've found your graphics card's manufacturer page, look for a link to downloading drivers, usually under either "Drivers" or "Support" or, if it's
ATI: http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
Nvidia: http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

Specify your model when looking for the drivers and get the latest edition.
This might help your problem.  -I hope it does, anyways :D
:)

PS Oh, right... before I forget.  With Nvidia drivers, you must uninstall your old drivers first.  Right-click on your card from the "Device Manager" and select "Uninstall".  See second picture.

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on January 24, 2007, 11:49:47 am
I did notice the installer is still downloading both the .mve files and the .ogg files.  You don't need both, right?  Might save some bandwidth by taking one out :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 24, 2007, 01:55:41 pm
I did notice the installer is still downloading both the .mve files and the .ogg files.  You don't need both, right?  Might save some bandwidth by taking one out :)

No, you don't need both. That's why they're optional. It allows for user preference.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on January 24, 2007, 02:12:34 pm
Oh, all right.  When I installed it, it said to just say "yes to all" to install everything the first time, but if you were just installing certain components I see how that'd be useful.  My bad. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 25, 2007, 03:04:15 pm
I am running 3.6.9 and everything is good. I like that the installer automatically updates things. I haven't tried it. I'd like to. Is it hard to setup? How do I know which version to use? If I don't run mods yet, do I need it? Thanks
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Final on January 25, 2007, 03:28:09 pm
hello

i run the installer with java on a linux-system... therefore i had no choice to select some options...
so the installation runs and runs since 10:00 today =(

at the moment the installer got 2.2 GB - how much till the installer is complete?

and can I close the installer before the installation is finished to start it tomorrow again?
(so checked the installer the downloaded file and start tomorrow with the next new one, or will the installer install the temporary downloaded files again?)

 I have to go to bed, now  :sigh:

(please excuse the bad english - i am no native speeker, i am german and write english is a little bid difficulty)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 25, 2007, 03:36:55 pm
Is it hard to setup?
No. However, if you haven't used it before, it will run for quite a bit.

How do I know which version to use?
There's only one version. Where are you getting the idea that there are multiple versions?

If I don't run mods yet, do I need it?
Huh?

i run the installer with java on a linux-system... therefore i had no choice to select some options...
This makes no sense. The GUI should show up on all systems.

at the moment the installer got 2.2 GB - how much till the installer is complete?
If you selected "Yes to all", then ~3GB total.

and can I close the installer before the installation is finished to start it tomorrow again?
(so checked the installer the downloaded file and start tomorrow with the next new one, or will the installer install the temporary downloaded files again?)

Sort of. You can do that, but it will take longer than if you simply left it running, as it needs to check the validity of the already-present files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Final on January 25, 2007, 03:49:13 pm
the only question i got, was the installation-folder... nothing else :/

i run the .jar with sun-java 1.5 from the Ubuntu-GUI.
a gray box appeare, with the question for the installation-folder, after setting up this i got two buttons start and abort

there are no other questions, like in the windows-version on windows xp
i wondered myself as i start the installation on Linux(Ubuntu)

 :confused:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 25, 2007, 03:53:17 pm
could you try re-downloading the .jar?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 25, 2007, 04:12:53 pm
Sorry for my ignorance. Last time I tried the Installer I had a bad time with .jar files and such. Now it looks like you have 2 options. Can I avoid the .jar stuff with the first option? I thought Homesick, Transcend were mods? I didn't know. What are they? Can I choose what I want?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 25, 2007, 04:18:44 pm
Sorry for my ignorance. Last time I tried the Installer I had a bad time with .jar files and such. Now it looks like you have 2 options. Can I avoid the .jar stuff with the first option?
Ah. Yes, you can download the zipped windows executable and it will be a .exe. No .jar problems.

I thought Homesick, Transcend were mods? I didn't know. What are they? Can I choose what I want?

Yes, you can choose what you want. When you run it, give it your freespace directory, then select "All Features" and "Let me choose for each one."
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on January 25, 2007, 05:52:48 pm
I have the zip file downloaded to my desktop. I tried to open the Installer.exe, and it flashes for a split second, then nothing. I extracted the file to my FS2 file, and I get the same thing. There are alot of files listed under the Installer.exe file in Winzip. Do I choose the top one, the installer exe. and run it? It didn't work.- now what did I do wrong? :confused:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 25, 2007, 08:37:34 pm
I have the zip file downloaded to my desktop. I tried to open the Installer.exe, and it flashes for a split second, then nothing. I extracted the file to my FS2 file, and I get the same thing. There are alot of files listed under the Installer.exe file in Winzip. Do I choose the top one, the installer exe. and run it? It didn't work.- now what did I do wrong? :confused:

Did you extract ALL the files before you ran the .exe? They're not in there just for looks.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 26, 2007, 01:20:10 am
hello

i run the installer with java on a linux-system... therefore i had no choice to select some options...
so the installation runs and runs since 10:00 today =(

at the moment the installer got 2.2 GB - how much till the installer is complete?

and can I close the installer before the installation is finished to start it tomorrow again?
(so checked the installer the downloaded file and start tomorrow with the next new one, or will the installer install the temporary downloaded files again?)

 I have to go to bed, now  :sigh:

(please excuse the bad english - i am no native speeker, i am german and write english is a little bid difficulty)


Well, have you installed fs2 at all in your lifetime with the normal cd's? fs2 vanilla with everything off of the cd's comes in at 2.2gb usually, after that the core files has everything stripped away that's unecessary such as old readme's that came with the game and stuff, after that there's the combination of scp enhanced everything that gets installed along with god knows what campaigns you wanted to install also. I have all of the ogg cutscenes, all of the scp stuff, and fsport, derelict, and the fs2 campaign, after installation it is 3.2gb in size for the install directory. So Final, keep the installer running, i was running mine for like 8 hours based on my connection speed, and how fast the server i was downloading everything capped my download speed.
Keep it running, the installer does include how far it's gotten on the files it's currently downloading. This is not a tiny game, and the fact that a tiny installer was created to install a high quality big size game to me is amazing. If i want to give the game to anybody all i really need to do is distribute the best working installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 26, 2007, 03:32:42 pm
hello

i run the installer with java on a linux-system... therefore i had no choice to select some options...
so the installation runs and runs since 10:00 today =(

at the moment the installer got 2.2 GB - how much till the installer is complete?

and can I close the installer before the installation is finished to start it tomorrow again?
(so checked the installer the downloaded file and start tomorrow with the next new one, or will the installer install the temporary downloaded files again?)

 I have to go to bed, now  :sigh:

(please excuse the bad english - i am no native speeker, i am german and write english is a little bid difficulty)


It is not a good idea to close the installer as far as i know.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: agaffney on January 27, 2007, 04:52:50 pm
the only question i got, was the installation-folder... nothing else :/

i run the .jar with sun-java 1.5 from the Ubuntu-GUI.
a gray box appeare, with the question for the installation-folder, after setting up this i got two buttons start and abort

there are no other questions, like in the windows-version on windows xp
i wondered myself as i start the installation on Linux(Ubuntu)

 :confused:
I just tried the new GUI installer myself on Gentoo at Turey's request, and it works fine for me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 27, 2007, 10:39:02 pm
Installer updated.

Now, the Installer overwrites the line it's on when it's showing download progress. So you see:
Code: [Select]
Getting next entry, 5% Done.
instead of

Code: [Select]
Getting next entry, 0% Done.
Getting next entry, 1% Done.
Getting next entry, 2% Done.
Getting next entry, 3% Done.
Getting next entry, 4% Done.
Getting next entry, 5% Done.

Be warned: This will not work correctly if your horizontal screen buffer isn't large enough. To fix this (on windows), right-click on the top of the window, go to properties, layouut tab, and change the Width entry in Screen Buffer Size to something larger, like 150.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 28, 2007, 12:26:18 am
Hey, nifty, it has a GUI. :D

I'm trying it from Kubuntu64 and it seemed to work fine. Granted, I didn't install anything because all I need are the Linux binaries.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 28, 2007, 01:45:19 am
Question:  If a new mod is released and the Installer can download it, what do I have to do to get it?  Re-run the installer, give it my FS2 directory again, then choose "Update Installed Features Only" or "Update All Features" ?  And, if it's "Update All Features", it won't re-download stuff I already have, right?  And how do I tell if something needs to be updated?  Will it ask at all, or just skip up-to date features?

To make it simple: pretend a new mod was released, called Newmod, and another was updated, say FSPort.  What would I do?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 28, 2007, 06:56:11 am
Speaking of fs2 on linux since i'm a kubuntu user. I wonder how development on the 3.6.9 linux release is going and whether or not the gtk launcher that was being created is still being translated into english. Until then, windows for fs2 since i don't know how to run wine.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 28, 2007, 11:08:41 pm
If you click "no" when it asks you if you want to go to the download page for openAL the installer quits.

Actually, it quits when you say yes too.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bouchehog on January 29, 2007, 10:56:32 am
I get exactly the same message. :( I was running the installer last night from a new install (original CDs, somewhat dusty!); it didn't like the java version for some reason - it asked me what I wanted to install and then quit only downloading about 1mb worth of stuff. I then tried the 20mb installer and it ran perfectly... until I ran out of space on my HD and started to get errors. I quickly deleted some stuff and the installer continued, skipping a few components. After it finished installing I think it asked about OpenAL then quit (at least I think so, it was the early hours of the morning!). I shut the machine down for the night.

Now when I run the installer it asks for the directory and update options, throws up a few lines of text in the DOS window (see below) and then I am told that I haven't installed OpenAL and would I like to go to the download page. As with Uninvited above, clicking on either will quit the installer. Perhaps there isn't a problem and things are just quitting because I have everything I am supposed to install, but my FS2 directory is only 3.79GB and everything is supposed to have been installed. Any ideas?

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/513/openalgm2.png) (http://imageshack.us)


edit: Just to say that the main culprit appears to be an inproperly installed FSPort (it won't show up in the launcher mods)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 29, 2007, 12:04:47 pm
Question:  If a new mod is released and the Installer can download it, what do I have to do to get it?  Re-run the installer, give it my FS2 directory again, then choose "Update Installed Features Only" or "Update All Features" ?  And, if it's "Update All Features", it won't re-download stuff I already have, right?  And how do I tell if something needs to be updated?  Will it ask at all, or just skip up-to date features?

To make it simple: pretend a new mod was released, called Newmod, and another was updated, say FSPort.  What would I do?

You would re-run the Installer, give it your FreeSpace2 directory. If you just wanted to update the stuff already installed by the Installer, you'd select "Installed Features only", say if you wanted to get the new version of FSPort.

If you wanted to get Newmod and FSPort, you'd select "All Features".


If you click "no" when it asks you if you want to go to the download page for openAL the installer quits.

Actually, it quits when you say yes too.

It's the very last thing the Installer does. It's supposed to quit on both answers. The only difference is that "Yes" is supposed to bring up a browser window with the OpenAL download page.

I am told that I haven't installed OpenAL and would I like to go to the download page.

Actually, it says IF you don't have OpenAL, then would you like to bring up the download page. Until I have a reliable way of checking for the existance of OpenAL on ALL systems, the message will appear every time you run the Installer.

As with Uninvited above, clicking on either will quit the installer. Perhaps there isn't a problem and things are just quitting because I have everything I am supposed to install, but my FS2 directory is only 3.79GB and everything is supposed to have been installed. Any ideas?

If you want to make sure that you have everything, simply delete FreeSpace2\Installer\installedversions.txt
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 29, 2007, 12:28:33 pm
You would re-run the Installer, give it your FreeSpace2 directory. If you just wanted to update the stuff already installed by the Installer, you'd select "Installed Features only", say if you wanted to get the new version of FSPort.

If you wanted to get Newmod and FSPort, you'd select "All Features".

Thx, Turey  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Bouchehog on January 29, 2007, 12:35:04 pm
You sir are a legend of unparalleled proportions! Deleting installedversions.txt has forced it to recheck everything properly: I was indeed missing a great many files (which are happily downloading now!). I do wonder if this might throw some people who encounter a similar problem with their installs. Also, my apologies for mis-reading the OpenAL message - perhaps a wait command on the installer telling me that it's all done would be helpful to others.

Anyway, absolutely superb work - a great many thanks!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 29, 2007, 03:03:44 pm
Ok, I understand that OpenAL runs last.

The problem was that it didn't ask me everything that I wanted to download before I went to OpenAL. That's fixed now that I deleted installed versions.

The only things it asked me if I wanted to get were:
FS2 Retail
FS2 Demo
Multiplayer Maps
Multiplayer Voice Pack
Mac Binaries
.MVE or .OGG Cutscenes for FS1 and FS2
then OpenAL
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 29, 2007, 04:11:47 pm
Ok, I understand that OpenAL runs last.

The problem was that it didn't ask me everything that I wanted to download before I went to OpenAL. That's fixed now that I deleted installed versions.

The only things it asked me if I wanted to get were:
FS2 Retail
FS2 Demo
Multiplayer Maps
Multiplayer Voice Pack
Mac Binaries
.MVE or .OGG Cutscenes for FS1 and FS2
then OpenAL

The only way that it'll skip a section is if you installed that section with the installer before, and there has not been a change since.

The fact that deleting installedversions.txt fixed your problem only proves this further.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 29, 2007, 05:20:06 pm
I wiped my old install folder, did a fresh install of FS2, downloaded the newest .exe with the gui, and used it to install scp. It happened as above.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 29, 2007, 05:22:16 pm
How'd you install FreeSpace 2?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Uninvited on January 29, 2007, 08:09:07 pm
Retail cds
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Hinge on January 30, 2007, 02:04:59 am
Uh, I'm getting a 404 on the 20 mb installer. Why's that?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: SweetCheebs on January 30, 2007, 02:52:13 am
Neither installer will work for me, 404's on both :(
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on January 30, 2007, 02:53:07 am
Screw the retail cd's. fso has so much stuff you need to download and put in manually, and it really is more than just vp's and new scp releases. Several graphical things aren't in the vp's yet like dab more sane beams, nameplate dds, and the new subspace vortex affect.
The installer does it all for me now. Now all i put in manually is the more sane beams, nameplate dds, and the new subspace vortex. A degree for clamoring around the forums to grab this and that, and putting it here and there, has been eliminated.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Amity on January 30, 2007, 03:04:49 am
Well. Seems the Installer has been taken down (and I'm stuck with a half-finished installation now -.-). According to the link here: http://www.fsoinstaller.com/ it was taken down on purpose. And manual installation... arghs.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 30, 2007, 07:53:23 am
EDIT: changed so links point to current version from Turey, as the Installer is back up.
EDIT2: That'd better be the current version of the Java Utilities!  ;)
EDIT3: Changed to link to here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,45496.msg926914.html#msg926914).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 30, 2007, 11:36:32 am
*snort* Prolly get in trouble, but...
1st, un-install all Java runtime environments older than version 6 (not to be confused with version 5 update 6)  - ie, if it doesn't say "Java (TM) SE Runtime Environment 6" in Add/Remove Programs (in Control Panel)
*RESTART COMPUTER*
2nd, install JRE 6: http://www.filehippo.com/download_java_runtime/tech/ (link to d'l is on right)
3rd, download, unzip & install: http://www.geocities.com/joshuap_richards/javautilities.zip
4th, download & double-click: http://www.geocities.com/joshuap_richards/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar
Keep in mind that the installer was probably taken down for a reason. :wtf: that could be, I don't know.

I'd be very surprised if that works, as the first thing the Installer does is check for a new version. If it can't find the page, it will try to get a new version.

That said, the Installer should be back up in 24 hours.

EDIT: It's back up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on January 31, 2007, 01:28:50 am
Ok, so do we get to find out why it was taken down?  A bugfix?  Do I have to d'l a new version?
:fidget:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on January 31, 2007, 11:40:02 am
Ok, so do we get to find out why it was taken down?  A bugfix?  Do I have to d'l a new version?
:fidget:


Apparently, this is a lesser-known feature of the Installer, but if your version of the Installer is out-of-date, it'll tell you when you run it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 01, 2007, 02:08:43 am
Ah, very good... does it also download a new version of itself?  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 01, 2007, 02:22:50 am
Ah, very good... does it also download a new version of itself?  ;)

Yes. It opens it up in your web browser, which should then ask you to save it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 01, 2007, 03:37:15 am
:cool:  You're the best, man!! :yes: :nod:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 07, 2007, 12:42:36 am
SoulStorm's OSX Launcher has been added.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 07, 2007, 08:23:12 am
Ok, I've a question:
Is there a way to support TC MODs that use their own installer, are not compatible with normal FSO builds, and/or use FileFront or similar?
ie, link to their FileFront d'l page possible, if the Installer user wants to get the MOD.  The best way to implement this I think would be to give the user an option to either:
a) Go to the d'l site.
b) Copy the d'l site to the clipboard.
c) Save a shortcut to the d'l site.

Just a thought; to try to get more attention to great MODs like WCA Prologue and Inferno and TBP.
If that is not a good idea, just ignore it.

The reason I wrote this is that I contacted those Modders (WCA, etc) and they said that given the current restrictions on the Installer, they couldn't make it work (ie, no support for TC MODs)

meh... I'm sleepy; if this doesn't make sense, someone tell me to shut up I will.
XD 
I'm goin' ta bed!  -Night!

EDIT: New Threads I made to contact MODs:
WCSaga (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,45194.msg921451.html#msg921451)
BWO (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,45193.msg921446.html#msg921446)
TBP (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,45191.msg921443.html#msg921443)
Inferno (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,45190.msg921442.html#msg921442)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 07, 2007, 11:40:48 am
Ok, I've a question:
Is there a way to support TC MODs that use their own installer,
Sure, I can have it download their installer.

are not compatible with normal FSO builds,
As long as, when run, they don't install to the FreeSpace2 dir.

and/or use FileFront or similar?
No. I can't interact with FileFront and it's ilk, and TCs are probably better served with a campaign list. If it doesn't need the FreeSpace2 files, it probably shouldn't be put into the Installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on February 07, 2007, 04:12:45 pm
No. I can't interact with FileFront and it's ilk, and TCs are probably better served with a campaign list. If it doesn't need the FreeSpace2 files, it probably shouldn't be put into the Installer.

I still like the idea of them at least being able to link to their own websites from the installer and download their installer if (like WCS) they have webspace you can interact with.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 07, 2007, 04:43:42 pm
Maybe a solution would be to have the Installer give the option of visiting the campaign list site?  Maybe you could even make a TC page that the Installer could link to, I dunno.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Darklord42 on February 07, 2007, 05:05:51 pm
will the installer include this mac launcher in some future date? http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44568.0.html
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 07, 2007, 05:22:26 pm
will the installer include this mac launcher in some future date? http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44568.0.html

SoulStorm's OSX Launcher has been added.

 :)

Anyways, Installer updated. Changelog will be updated soon, but here's what changed:
1. The command prompt is no longer used. At all. This change means that I can now guarantee that this feature (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg918037.html#msg918037) will work on every single box and OS.
2. Now, if you close the installer halfway through, it'll still record which sections you finished, so that when you start it again, you'll be able to start at least fairly close to where you left off.
3. It now generates two new text files, installer_error.log and installer_status.log. The first one records any errors that occur during the installation, so if you leave it overnight, you can still see if anything went wrong. The second one records all the progress text displayed on the screen during the installation, so you can see exactly what appeared on the screen when it was run, even if you let it run overnight.

These advances have come at a cost, though: The Installer now weighs in at 12KB (.jar, up from 9KB) and 48MB (.exe, up from 20MB).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Darklord42 on February 07, 2007, 07:01:20 pm
 :eek2:  Oh my goodness, 12 whole kb!! How will we ever fit fs2 onto our hardrives with that monster installer?!?! :p

Even 40mb isn't bad if you consider that evreything on the installer amounts to over 4 gigs.
All in all this update is good news and im glad to here it :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 07, 2007, 08:20:31 pm
All of three hours and I've already found a large bug.  :sigh:

Re-uploading now.

EDIT: Wow that's horrible. :sigh:

The increase from 20 to 40MB was because I had it on Store instead of Normal.

It's back at 20MB now.

EDIT2: Alright, fixed version is up now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 07, 2007, 10:59:45 pm
Emm, not to be stupid, but I'm probably going to be anyways...
Would using MS .Net Framework cut down on the size for the .exe installer?
Be aware I have no clue what would be required to do that, so I'm just suggesting this blindly.  Tell me to go sit in the corner if it won't work.  :) :b
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 07, 2007, 11:11:59 pm
Emm, not to be stupid, but I'm probably going to be anyways...
Would using MS .Net Framework cut down on the size for the .exe installer?
Be aware I have no clue what would be required to do that, so I'm just suggesting this blindly.  Tell me to go sit in the corner if it won't work.  :) :b

Probably not. Also, I'm not touching .net with a ten foot pole.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 08, 2007, 07:14:05 am
ok :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: neoterran on February 08, 2007, 11:35:38 am
Emm, not to be stupid, but I'm probably going to be anyways...
Would using MS .Net Framework cut down on the size for the .exe installer?
Be aware I have no clue what would be required to do that, so I'm just suggesting this blindly.  Tell me to go sit in the corner if it won't work.  :) :b

Probably not. Also, I'm not touching .net with a ten foot pole.

It's not architecturally any more clumsy than the java you are using my friend. C# basically is a slightly nicer version of java anyway.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 24, 2007, 10:33:46 pm
Installer updated.

Changes:
Version Strings for mods are now case-insensitive.
quiting halfway through has been improved.

To everyone with a Mod in the Installer:
Goober, Axem, and Soulstorm are the only ones who are hosting their own text files. The rest of you need to follow their wonderful example.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on February 25, 2007, 06:01:39 pm
Installer doesn't appear to be working, Turey.  It gets stuck at downloading a FSPort and a few of the install components get stuck and need to be Xed out so you can get to the next one
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 25, 2007, 08:26:45 pm
Installer doesn't appear to be working, Turey.  It gets stuck at downloading a FSPort and a few of the install components get stuck and need to be Xed out so you can get to the next one

Could you be a bit more specific? Which files aren't working?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on February 25, 2007, 10:50:40 pm
Sorry,

Some components get "stuck"  When going through the component-by-component install process, a window will pop up for a component and freeze there.  It's simply a blank white window with a title like "Freespace 1 training missions"  Xing out of it will allow the next window to pop up.  Freespace training missions does this, along with awakenings. 

After Xing out of the ones that don't work and selecting the files you want, the installer does this

Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\temp\version.txt   0.01953125 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\filenames.txt   0.78125 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\retail.txt   1.18359375 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\core_files.txt   0.8388671875 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\launcher_info.txt   0.2421875 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\multi.txt   0.5810546875 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\mv.txt   0.8740234375 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\cutscene.txt   0.375 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\dmtools.txt   0.265625 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\razorskiss.txt   0.2900390625 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\axem.txt   0.638671875 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\fsport.txt   2.2431640625 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\dem.txt   0.9052734375 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\homesick.txt   0.1123046875 KB
Downloaded: C:\Games\Freespace2\Installer\ransomarceihn.txt   0.2177734375 KB
FreeSpace Port
Checking: fsport3_0.zip
Finished  with Zip File: fsport3_0.zip
Checking: fsport3_0_1.vp
Current File Size: 0
 
It stays stuck there.  I've let it run for an hour and it doesn't move. 
 
If it helps, I'm using Vista.  I originally ran the update for an hour or so where it was working fine (except freezing on the Awakenings and FSPort Training missions windows) but had to leave and turn off the computer, and started the installer back up when I came back.  I'm going to try deleting everything and starting from scratch to see if that helps. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 25, 2007, 10:58:35 pm
oh. I found the problem, and it is being fixed now.

EDIT: I think it's fixed. Try it again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on February 25, 2007, 11:18:16 pm
Still no dice.  It didn't even ask me if I wanted Awakenings this time.  Also, it froze on Music.  I've included a screenshot of where it's messing up if that helps.



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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 26, 2007, 01:06:45 am
Are you using the .exe Installer? Did you make sure to extract the "rt" folder along with the .exe?

If you are using the .exe version, try the .jar version. If you are using the .jar version, try the .exe version.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on February 26, 2007, 01:18:39 am
:p it's prolly the .exe that's stuck, the .jar one has always been :cool: in my experience (the only one I use)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on February 26, 2007, 01:59:20 am
I was using the .exe installer.  I did extract the rt folder as well, I extracted everything.  I'm using the .jar version now and there were no issues during the selection process for what components to install.  I'll let you know if everything downloaded okay. 

Thanks!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Agentbolt on February 26, 2007, 04:41:34 am
.jar version worked fine!  Thanks for the tip.  Not sure if it's a Vista thing or it's a "Agentbolt is a moron" thing that was causing the .exe to not work. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 26, 2007, 10:19:07 pm
Just a little bit of news. I've started working on the final GUI for the Installer, and I've made substantial progress so far (at the cost of progress on my work for BtRL. Sorry Kara!  :blah: ) and I plan to finish by sometime in March (or if something goes wrong, April). The exact date will depend on how much the demands of RL (and BtRL) weigh on me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on February 28, 2007, 06:41:41 pm
A first look at the next version of the Installer.

Check is out here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/Installer_halfwayGUI.jar).

It doesn't actually install anything, as I've only finished the first three pages, but still.

Now to finish the other three pages.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 02, 2007, 09:10:08 pm
[DW]-Hunter is having some trouble with the amount of bandwidth being used, and the Installer is the main culprit.

To help him out, I've temporarily removed the MVE Cutscenes (FS2 only. If he continues having problems, I'll contact Goober about taking out the FS1 MVEs as well.) from the Installer. They are very large files, and many people were downloading both sets of cutscenes, MVE and OGG. Since the MVEs are bigger, they were chosen for temporary removal.

Sorry about this.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 03, 2007, 03:08:07 am
...Maybe you could, instead of having it ask for both sets, ask which set you want (MVE or OGG).  Whichever you choose is the one you get.  And make it clear that the .OGG files are usually the way you want to go.  I dunno, maybe that would work.  Of course, then maybe everyone would just get the .MVEs, who knows.
What do you think?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 05, 2007, 11:04:34 am
I caved and downloaded 3.6.9

First I dl'ed the retail installer (my disks crapped out early) and got that set.
Then I got the open AL and other files (set)
Rand open installed and figured out how to make it work (set)

Tested it and FS2 open runs (YAY!) I skipped 2 training missions and completed the first real mission with NO PROBLEMS AT ALL!

Problem... I wanted to start modding it (port my stuff) so I ran a couple of mods via the launcher to get used to this again (first tried port, then homesick)
No mod pic shows up in the box and when they run it's normal fs2. 

Did I forget to do something?

[Plus why is the ini file launcher 6 and the launcher itself 5.4 or something like that?]

This was a completely new install to C:Games/Freespace2, so nothing weird should be going on like my other installs to wacky places that work fine.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 05, 2007, 11:18:51 am
Did you go to the Campaigns menu inside FS2 and select the campaign you want?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Getter Robo G on March 06, 2007, 07:58:09 am
DOH!!!! "Heavens to Mergatroid, how embarrasking!"

(I'm too spoiled with skipping that step).  works fine now though I ironically tried the only two mods that don't have a mod ini file that allows media vp's. I thought at first something was wrong cause they had no glow, shine etc.. :)

DEM and Homesick. I supposed copy and pasting with slight altering would work for another mod's ini file.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 07, 2007, 05:59:52 pm
I've almost finished the next version of the Installer. You can try it here:
http://www.fsoinstaller.com/Installer_mostlyGUI.jar

It's fully functional, there's just a few more features I'd like to add, and I'd like to test it more throughly.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on March 07, 2007, 08:15:00 pm
I supposed copy and pasting with slight altering would work for another mod's ini file.

Yup, should work brilliantly.  All you really need to do is make sure that mediavps is in the secondary list I think, and you should be good.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 08, 2007, 11:49:27 pm
Installer updated, changelog will be updated soon.

It's the moment you've all been waiting for! The Installer now has a full-fledged GUI!

New features:
New Page-based layout - feels almost like a modern commercial installer!
New Directory Selection Process - no more errors from typos when selecting a folder! The Installer makes sure that the path you've chosen exists before you can proceed, instead of just crashing!
New Section Selection Process - intuitive tree-based selection, with dependency checking and convienient description buttons!
New Install-time Interaction - convienient progress bar helps you keep track of file downloads, while saved error and status logs allow you to peruse the information at your own pace!
Improved Exit Handling - quitting halfway through now wastes less bandwidth than ever before!
Improved Error Handling - no more need to delete installedversions.txt! If a download fails for some reason, the Installer automatically notifies you in the post-installation notes, and marks the section as needing checking next time the Installer runs!

New Post-Installation Notes:
Users - need a little help getting things set up after the install finishes? Now, once the install finishes, anything that you might need to know about the files you just installed is displayed on-screen for you to read! In addition, the Installer saves all the post-installation notes for that install in <The Folder You Installed To>\Installer\install_notes_<year>_<month>_<day>_<hour>_<min>_<sec>_<milisec>.txt, so that it keeps a history of which install notes you've seen and when, in case you ever need them!
Mod Creators - Got a little something special you'd like to tell the people who download your files? Simply want to point them to your FAQ/Forums/Donation page? You've now got an unlimited number of lines that you can use to tell users of anything you want in relation to your creation!

Total Conversion Groups/Anyone who might want a customized Online Installer - Simply by creating a minimum of four text files, you can have your own customized Online Installer/Updater, which you will have complete control over (It doesn't have to interact with FSOInstaller.com in any way). It's an easy way to avoid a patching nightmare!

EDIT: .exe version temporarily unavailable. Use the .jar until I can get it fixed.

EDIT: .exe version up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 09, 2007, 03:09:17 am
 :jaw:  :eek:  Nice one.   :yes: 8)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Eisbeutel on March 09, 2007, 06:45:52 am
I've started downloading the files yesterday, but when I started the installer today, it said it was outdated.
Now I've downloaded both of the new ones, and while the .exe isn't even working, the NEW .jar says too, that my installer is outdated.

so, what am I doing wrong and is there a solution for the problem?

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 09, 2007, 08:27:12 am
Download the updated .jar version, and run it.  (Overwrite the old .jar version)  The .exe installer is temporarily down, so use the .jar
If you need help, my siggy has instructions on installing the .jar version...

Ah, yes, and...
The weapons board is overheating, oh well...
Gunnery Control, target Eisbeutel.  Abort the Plasma core removal, we'll be needing them.  Sensor lock acquired, not that we need it... Open Fire!
:welcome:

Welcome to Hard Light Productions. Exits are to your rear. In case of emergency, Flamethrowers can be found under your seats. They're empty though, so you'll have to beat others to death with them.

If, for some strange, as-yet-unknown reason you find yourself crawling through one of the nearby airducts, you are quite possibly going to run into a shivan. Five legs, glowing red eyes. You cant miss 'em. It's probably just Carl, though. Give him whatever food you have on you, and he should leave you alone. If you have none, take comfort in the fact that your death will, at least, be quick (if not painless).

There are Plasma rifles located in the forward storage lockers, however these can only be accessed by an Admin, , God, or Hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Be warned that the door to the Command Bridge is guarded by subspatial claymore mines.

The SCP is all that is good. Mention eF eS thr33 at your own peril. And have a nice day.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Eisbeutel on March 09, 2007, 10:33:22 am
As I've already said, I'm still getting the "your version is outdated" error even if I start the brand-new .jar which he offers for download (tried the one mentioned in the first post of this thread too).

but thanks for the warm welcome ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 09, 2007, 11:40:42 am
As I've already said, I'm still getting the "your version is outdated" error even if I start the brand-new .jar which he offers for download (tried the one mentioned in the first post of this thread too).

but thanks for the warm welcome ;)

I think I fixed it, try again.

EDIT: The .exe should now be available. I had to use a different compression algorithm for the .zip (To shrink it more, as I'm having a hard time uploading larger files), so if you have a hard time unzipping, tell me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: rms on March 09, 2007, 05:58:20 pm
hay Turey!  good job on the new .exe, it worked fine, just took twice to d/l it!

rms
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spzattk on March 09, 2007, 06:21:04 pm
I already have the game installed, and it works OK. I updated it to version 1.2
When I click on the .exe link, I click open, and then get a file with two folders in it. One says "rt" and another says "FreespaceOpenInstaller"
I click on FreespaceOpenInstaller, but when I do, a box comes up saying that I should extract all the files first. I click extract, but then I get a message saying "File skipped unknown compression method".

Am I doing something wrong, I'm not very good with this kind of stuff.

Also: I did this before a few months ago, and I remember it working, did something change since then (I had to uninstall it because the graphics card was bad, but now I should have all the system requirements)?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Eisbeutel on March 09, 2007, 06:30:03 pm
yay, works now, thank you!  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 09, 2007, 07:22:52 pm
@spzattk: get 7-zip (http://www.7-zip.org) (freeware) and extract it with that.  Install 7-zip, right-click on the .zip file, go to 7-zip > Extract files... , specify a location, and there you go!  I don't know why the other program you're using doesn't work... strange.

EDIT: @spazattk & rms:
My weapons board is overheated for now, but you just wait... :drevil:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 09, 2007, 07:51:20 pm
I don't know why the other program you're using doesn't work... strange.

It's probably because i switched from "Deflate" to "Deflate64". They should both work with many zip handlers. I believe the problem is that:
When I click on the .exe link, I click open, and then get a file with two folders in it. One says "rt" and another says "FreespaceOpenInstaller"
I click on FreespaceOpenInstaller, but when I do, a box comes up saying that I should extract all the files first. I click extract, but then I get a message saying "File skipped unknown compression method".

Try saving to disk, then unzipping the folder and file to disk, then clicking FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.

If that doesn't work, try 7-zip as recommended above.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 09, 2007, 08:31:45 pm
@Turey: :drevil: If you switched to .7z, you wouldn't have a problem, and the compression would be better... try it, see what the difference is.  ;)
You'd just have to put a note on the download page saying to use 7-zip or the latest version of WinRAR.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: holyhyperion on March 10, 2007, 07:47:10 am
Hi everyone!

I just tried installing using Turey's install pack (.exe) and I seem to have gotten this weird error. Here is what it says:

Error: Could not load animation cursor for the mouse pointer

File: J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_2.6.9.final\code\FREESPACE2\FreeSpace.cpp
Line: 9447
[This filename points to a location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------
------------------------------

What does this error mean? Have I done something wrong? I am fairly certain that I did the installer properly.

My FS2 is installed in C:\Games\Freespace2

Thank you for your help!

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 10, 2007, 07:49:57 am
Whoever helps him, don't forget to :welcome: him, too.  :D
(BTW, welcome aboard, holyhyperion :) )
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: holyhyperion on March 10, 2007, 08:05:25 am
Thanks for the welcome :).
I actually used to play this quite a few years ago, but I subsequently stopped with the PXO community died.

I just had the itch one day to try out FS2 Open and here I am trying to install it but getting that weird error :/.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 10, 2007, 03:44:43 pm
You people need to stop giving me good ideas.  :hopping:

Installer updated, still need to do changelog.

Changes:
- pretty border. Can be changed for TC re-branding. Details to follow on the "Using the Installer for a Total Conversion" page I'm writing.
- small changes to progress bar.
- You can't resize the window anymore. It made the pretty pictures look ugly, so it was stopped.
- added another option, "NOAUTO", to the text file specs. It's for things that you don't want selected by default.


What does this error mean? Have I done something wrong? I am fairly certain that I did the installer properly.

How big is C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp?

EDIT: I've finished the TC Installer guide. You can view it here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/tchelp.html).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 10, 2007, 11:43:09 pm
The button to change the FS Install directory is too big, it takes up the whole screen, so you can't see it's a button.  (.jar version)
I made a very crude-looking fix for it.

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on March 12, 2007, 02:27:27 pm
@Turey: :drevil: If you switched to .7z, you wouldn't have a problem, and the compression would be better... try it, see what the difference is.  ;)
You'd just have to put a note on the download page saying to use 7-zip or the latest version of WinRAR.

The problem with 7zip is that it makes the installer from what i remember is that the installer doesn't support 7zip, and its very difficult to add in without having confusing external programs popping up during the installation. With this, some newbie is going to exit the 7zip that is extracting with out even knowing its part of the installation. If 7zip works with the installer there is a possibility we will switch over to it, cant make any promises though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 12, 2007, 05:15:17 pm
a) 7-zip comes with a command line version included
b) 7-zip is open source
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spzattk on March 12, 2007, 05:25:45 pm
It works great, thank you.
Will this work with freespace 1 as well?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 12, 2007, 05:51:49 pm
It works great, thank you.
Will this work with freespace 1 as well?

FreeSpace Port is included.

Simply open the Launcher, select fsport on the mod tab, then select the campaign in-game.

EDIT:
jr2 : I tried adding .7z support, but that stuff is horribly complicated.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on March 12, 2007, 06:21:04 pm
That doesn't change the fact that he'd have to bundle it with the installer, and while it won't be so noticeable on the exe version, it would be on the jar version, since he'd have to bundle one compatible with windows, mac, and linux.  There goes the benefit of getting the previously tiny jar version.  And while it's open source, it's not written in java, nor is support for 7zip in the java virtual machine.  So there's no way to incorporate it easily.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 12, 2007, 06:59:28 pm
That doesn't change the fact that he'd have to bundle it with the installer, and while it won't be so noticeable on the exe version, it would be on the jar version, since he'd have to bundle one compatible with windows, mac, and linux.  There goes the benefit of getting the previously tiny jar version.  And while it's open source, it's not written in java, nor is support for 7zip in the java virtual machine.  So there's no way to incorporate it easily.

Actually, someone's writing a thing called J7Zip (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111810&package_id=214282), but it's not nearly complete enough to use correctly.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 13, 2007, 01:57:51 am
Guess it's a waiting game, then... *twiddles thumbs*  Is that guy (J7Zip) done yet?  He has one month.  If Turey can do it, so can he.  And the J7Zip better not be above 10K, either.  :lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 16, 2007, 06:36:57 pm
The link is in Turey's siggy... and mine...
Anyways,
@Turey: I know you said the Installer now supports resuming.. does it support resuming to the point where you can use dial-up to download for a few hours, (maybe if you get lucky and aren't disconnected, overnight) then shut it off in the morning, and continue this for a few weeks, until its finished?
I'm asking, because weathers would have a problem getting it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spzattk on March 17, 2007, 05:16:58 pm
Two questions:
How do I play online? Do I have to install anything else or did it come with the install.

Do I have to do anything when using FRED2? When I'm making a mission in it it's using the graphics without the SCP, but when I play it will it automatically convert to the SCP?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on March 17, 2007, 05:30:23 pm
I think you need to add -fredhtl -mod mediavps to the shortcut that you run fred from, in order to have it show the enhancements that you would see in game.  The -fredhtl adds support for the hi-poly models and the -mod tells it to get the data from the mediavps folder first, just like selecting that mod in the game launcher.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on March 17, 2007, 06:51:56 pm
Two questions:
How do I play online? Do I have to install anything else or did it come with the install.

You don't need anything new but you do need to register on FS2NetD and you may need to configure what you already have. More details here (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 18, 2007, 04:20:16 pm
The link is in Turey's siggy... and mine...
Anyways,
@Turey: I know you said the Installer now supports resuming.. does it support resuming to the point where you can use dial-up to download for a few hours, (maybe if you get lucky and aren't disconnected, overnight) then shut it off in the morning, and continue this for a few weeks, until its finished?
I'm asking, because weathers would have a problem getting it.

It has to finish a section before it saves it. So you'd have to get all the way through the mediavps before it would remember that they were downloaded.

Part of the reason why the Installer is an Online Installer is that it allows those on dial-up to get the core files quickly, without having to wait for the mediavps or the movie files. If they want the larger files, they should be prepared for a long download. There's nothing I can do about that.

More details here (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267).

The Installer does a lot of that process for you. All that needs to be done (besides downloading FSO with the Installer) is steps 1, 5 (only port 7808 needed), 6, and 7 from the page linked to.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: mnftg64 on March 20, 2007, 09:46:13 am
I just want to say that installers like this make re-installing FS2 a joy. I go through stages of playing this game and not playing it. I have gone through too many computers in the last couple of years as well. I usually dissapear from the community for months on end. When I come back, I am overwhelmed by now  knowing what I need to download to be able to play FS2_Open, the good way, plus all the mods and campaigns I want. These installers pretty much just rock. One step does it all.


Does this incude the FS2 Missions with the Lightspeed Nebuleas?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 20, 2007, 06:54:58 pm
Does this incude the FS2 Missions with the Lightspeed Nebuleas?

Nope, but if you've got a place to host the files (perhaps www.mydatabus.com or your own server), you can add them here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 21, 2007, 06:36:26 pm
Wow.

You guys just added $75 to Hunter's monthly bill by over-using his bandwidth.

I must say, I'm impressed. I've shifted some of the retail files over to RazorsKiss, and I'm working on getting the rest of them to him. If that's not enough, I'll see what else I can get moved.

In the meantime, it would be a nice gesture if those of you with the cash to do so would give a little something to Hunter for hosting this.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on March 21, 2007, 06:49:51 pm
Maybe post his paypal account?  Feel free to PM me the password too, for ease of transfer of the money to my account.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on March 21, 2007, 07:15:51 pm
I feel vindicated. I told Hunter he would run out of bandwidth, but he was all like no way man. LOL

Take that Hunter, you stubborn bastehd!  :lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 21, 2007, 09:06:50 pm
Sending those files up now.

Just try not to run my bandwidth limits skyhigh too :D

You do realize, all of you, that he had 4.5 terabytes+ of bandwidth?  You folks are scary.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 21, 2007, 10:05:28 pm
Sending those files up now.

Just try not to run my bandwidth limits skyhigh too :D

You do realize, all of you, that he had 4.5 terabytes+ of bandwidth?  You folks are scary.

You've got ten days to prepare for a bandwidth jump. To help Hunter out, the Installer will be down until April 1st. Sorry.

If you'd like to help Hunter with his bills, you can do so here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 22, 2007, 01:54:52 am
Sending those files up now.

Just try not to run my bandwidth limits skyhigh too :D

You do realize, all of you, that he had 4.5 terabytes+ of bandwidth?  You folks are scary.

So what's your speed limit, mister?  :drevil:
*hears FS fans gunning their engines as they wait in line to d'l*

EDIT: Hmm, how much would it cost to upgrade Hunter's account to the next level?
How about RazorsKiss' account?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on March 22, 2007, 04:48:53 am
I feel vindicated. I told Hunter he would run out of bandwidth, but he was all like no way man. LOL

Take that Hunter, you stubborn bastehd!  :lol:

I said pretty much the same thing. People forget that we only see the tip of the iceberg on the forums. We only see the people who register to say thank you or who have a problem and can't find the answer except by posting. We don't see the people who download the game and enjoy it but don't feel like registering.


I'm definitely not suggesting you have a registration system to download using the installer but I'll bet you if it did, we'd all be surprised at the number of people who signed up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Huggybaby on March 22, 2007, 06:47:48 am
I've been through this before. Barring a benefactor with unlimited bandwidth, torrents are the solution. hip63 and ShivanSPS have not run out of bandwidth nor will they.

Torrents can be slow, but no slower than the installer when it's under heavy load, and they're much faster than the installer is now.  :p

In the meantime, there are many many direct downloads still available---mine, most of Shivan's, and hip63's come to mind.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 22, 2007, 06:50:58 am
So what's your speed limit, mister?  :drevil:
*hears FS fans gunning their engines as they wait in line to d'l*

EDIT: Hmm, how much would it cost to upgrade Hunter's account to the next level?
How about RazorsKiss' account?

I have 5.5 teras/month.  Using 375 right now, including the files I'm already hosting for the installer.

I should be ok for a bit.  I just capped the bandwidth limit for the domain hosting the files at 2.5 teras/month, until I know what it's going to end up at. 

Funny part is:  I don't even play Freespace :D  I like the Installer though, and Turey is always more than helpful on IRC (which the rest of you should visit!).   
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 22, 2007, 08:03:56 am
I just found out about it... (IRC)
As for FS, you have the files... start with FSPort, see if you like it.. ;7
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 22, 2007, 08:56:36 pm
Nah.  Played them both when they came out.  They just move too slowly for me.

Great games, though.  Just not my speed.  Pun intended :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 23, 2007, 02:08:40 am
You'd prolly like Descent I & II; try D2X-XL (link in my siggy); you'll need the original game files also.  Action from start to finish!!  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 23, 2007, 07:07:48 am
Owned, owned.

I might :D

I liked descent way better than the FS sequels, yeah.  The online pilots thing was what put the final nail in the coffin, too.  Tachyon - 64, Allegiance 32 - Freespace2... wha?

heh.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 23, 2007, 09:14:04 am
Online pilots thing?  What you mean?

BTW, D2X-XL has tracker support.  The whole thing is only 2MB flat, then add the retail files for D1 & D2, plus hi-res textures if you want them (of course!), plus the hi-res Pyro (~5 Megs, IIRC).  But the 2 Meg will get you going.  Let me know if you need help re-installing the retail or anything else...

EDIT: Click on the D2X-XL link on the slide-out panel to the left; then open the same panel on D2X-XL site, hit "Worklog"; check out the D2X-XL video, as well as the other vids... also look at the new singleplayer mission screenies he's got there.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 23, 2007, 04:50:32 pm
How many people can play at once.  In FS2's case, not so many :D

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 23, 2007, 05:43:02 pm
How many people can play at once.  In FS2's case, not so many :D

At least twelve. We tested it yesterday.  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 23, 2007, 06:17:20 pm
Well, if you know how to code, up a fix to these ppl.  If not, find someone who does!  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 23, 2007, 07:03:12 pm
Well, if you know how to code, up a fix to these ppl.  If not, find someone who does!  ;)

I was talking about FSO.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on March 23, 2007, 07:12:20 pm
Yeah, well - when compared to 32+, it wasn't on the top of my list at the time :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on March 23, 2007, 07:16:33 pm
And I meant FSO and D2X-XL... if you know how to fix either, by all means, help out the projects!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 23, 2007, 07:27:55 pm
And I meant FSO and D2X-XL... if you know how to fix either, by all means, help out the projects!

I'm planning to start coding for the SCP this summer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 23, 2007, 11:57:48 pm
Sorry but the link for this installer does not work either.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 12:01:16 am
Sorry but the link for this installer does not work either.

I gave you this link to explain that both of these installers are down because of the same problem : the bandwidth overcharge mentioned here:
Sending those files up now.

Just try not to run my bandwidth limits skyhigh too :D

You do realize, all of you, that he had 4.5 terabytes+ of bandwidth?  You folks are scary.

You've got ten days to prepare for a bandwidth jump. To help Hunter out, the Installer will be down until April 1st. Sorry.

If you'd like to help Hunter with his bills, you can do so here (http://www.fsoinstaller.com).

Wait until April 1st, and everything will be working correctly. As odd as that sounds.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on March 24, 2007, 09:13:25 am
http://www.nukelol.com/fs/

I also found the installer here. So I guess I won't have to wait till April after all.  :pimp:

Nice job with the installer, its really handy.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 12:37:45 pm
http://www.nukelol.com/fs/

I also found the installer here. So I guess I won't have to wait till April after all.  :pimp:

Nice job with the installer, its really handy.

If that works, then good for you.

I wouldn't get my hopes up though.

EDIT: New version of retail Installer is up, all bandwidth used is RK's (Except for the 700KB initial download.)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on March 24, 2007, 01:33:56 pm
From what I could tell, everything but the first link on that page are just the retail files, not the SCP upgrades.  The first link says it can install Freespace Open, but the source it uses is down because it failed to get the files when I tried it.  So I would go back and get the newest version of Turey's installer and try again now that it should be on usable host.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on March 24, 2007, 01:47:39 pm
From what I could tell, everything but the first link on that page are just the retail files, not the SCP upgrades.  The first link says it can install Freespace Open, but the source it uses is down because it failed to get the files when I tried it.  So I would go back and get the newest version of Turey's installer and try again now that it should be on usable host.

Only the Retail Installer is up. Not the Open Installer. That's why it failed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: UgLyPuNk on March 31, 2007, 05:41:07 pm
If someone points me in the correct direction of the files I have a very very large mirror you can host it on, it is about 17TB of disk and can do 4.5tb in less then a day (and often does)

http://games.internode.on.net/

We had a file requested for the Freespace 2 SCP but i want to make sure I get the latest version

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 01, 2007, 07:17:13 am
April First!  :D :D :D Almost time!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 01, 2007, 08:35:36 am
How long will it be until the installer is back online? :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 01, 2007, 01:24:33 pm
Gunnery Control, target UgLyPuNk; commence plasma core insertion.  Power up photon beam cannons... sensor lock aquired, Fire!


:welcome:
Welcome to Hard Light Productions, UgLyPuNk.  Exits are to your rear. In case of emergency, Flamethrowers can be found under your seats. They're empty though, so you'll have to beat others to death with them.

If, for some strange, as-yet-unknown reason you find yourself crawling through one of the nearby airducts, you are quite possibly going to run into a shivan. Five legs, glowing red eyes. You cant miss 'em. It's probably just Carl, though. Give him whatever food you have on you, and he should leave you alone. If you have none, take comfort in the fact that your death will, at least, be quick (if not painless).

There are Plasma rifles located in the forward storage lockers, however these can only be accessed by an Admin, [V], God, or Hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Be warned that the door to the Command Bridge is guarded by subspatial claymore mines.

The SCP is all that is good. Mention FS3 at your own peril. And have a nice day.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 01, 2007, 06:18:19 pm
The Installer is back up. Everything works (I hope!) except for the FS2 OGG cutscenes (FS1 cutscenes work fine). This will be fixed shortly.

EDIT: OGG cutscenes work now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: vamitul on April 02, 2007, 07:17:28 am
Turey.. could u tell me more about "installedversions.txt"
i already installed FSO, so i just want the rest
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 02, 2007, 10:17:34 am
Turey.. could u tell me more about "installedversions.txt"
i already installed FSO, so i just want the rest

Well... installedversions.txt keeps track of everything you've installed through the Installer. If you use it correctly, you can make the Installer think that it's installed things that it hasn't. That's what the retail instructions on the first post do: they trick the Installer into thinking that it has already installed retail when it hasn't. However, if you screw up, you might end up having to re-download quite a bit. I'd recomend that you don't screw with it. The Installer's checking for a Retail installation should be almost instantaneous now that RK is hosting the files unzipped. If I were you, I'd just run the Installer and let it do its thing. It won't take long.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jim West on April 03, 2007, 08:10:08 pm
Well its a no go for me. Ive tried five times. I get the  data corrupted error message. I got it to open once but got the unexpected end of file message.   Jim
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on April 03, 2007, 08:26:59 pm
(http://www.hard-light.net/forums/Smileys/HLP/welcome2hlpbb.gif)

WELCOME TO THE HLPBB, Jim West!

24th Kill!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 03, 2007, 08:40:08 pm
Well its a no go for me. Ive tried five times. I get the  data corrupted error message. I got it to open once but got the unexpected end of file message.   Jim

What unzipper are you using?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jim West on April 03, 2007, 09:01:37 pm
I was using extract now. I'm about to look for winrar or something else. And thanks for the beam. Tury I have the 5.5 version of your launcher and it worked fine. I need the mediavp files that didn't download with 3.6.9-RC7.8. Everything else is fine.  Jim
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 03, 2007, 11:50:33 pm
Jim West from UMR?  Just curious, I know one who to school with me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 04, 2007, 12:02:49 am
I was using extract now. I'm about to look for winrar or something else. And thanks for the beam. Tury I have the 5.5 version of your launcher and it worked fine. I need the mediavp files that didn't download with 3.6.9-RC7.8. Everything else is fine.  Jim

Woah! I didn't know Tury made the Launcher! I thought it was Taylor!

You learn something every day.  :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jim West on April 04, 2007, 12:26:13 am
Sorry. I meant installer. Didn't mean to step on any toes. The installer I have says its out of date and directs me to your site. Ill try again.     Jim

Edit:Don't worry about it. I'm on the eighth  time now. I give up.  Jim
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 04, 2007, 03:06:05 am
Don't give up!  There's tons of ways to install it, if one doesn't work there's at least 3 more I know off the top of my head.  You could try the DVD ISO image if nothing else.  Then you could even give it to your friends too.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 04, 2007, 03:06:57 am
www.7-zip.org  bleh to WinZip & WinRAR.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Kegel on April 04, 2007, 05:52:46 pm
If I already have OpenAL installed on my box, is it OK to skip the OpenAL part of the install (im going to use the java based installer here).?

Forget it....worked like a charm.  Nice installer!!!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 05, 2007, 01:42:09 am
BTW, the Installer should now be working correctly... Turey made a typo (typed Root_fs2.vp instead of root_fs2.vp), that was the Installer problem.  Should work now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 05, 2007, 03:25:41 am
BTW, if you're still using 5.5, instead of the latest (5.5b, IIRC), there was a reason why it was updated... IDK if that's anything to do with the problem.  I have tons of contact options on my profile; maybe we can hash this out... Actually, look here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46357.msg945851.html#msg945851) (your "delete my account" thread) for a solution that should be absolutely painless.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 05, 2007, 09:50:02 am
BTW, the Installer should now be working correctly... Taylor made a typo (typed Root_fs2.vp instead of root_fs2.vp), that was the Installer problem.  Should work now.

Hey hey hey. Don't blame Taylor for my mistakes. The typo was all mine.

Anyways, I've started to slow down on adding features to the Installer, as I need to concentrate on my schoolwork. However, a forum member contacted me about adding proxy support, and since it looks fairly easy, I'll put it on my To-Do list.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 05, 2007, 11:54:42 am
Sorry, I get you two mixed up in my head all the time.  I knew sooner or later it was going to come out in the forums... ::)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Frenetic on April 06, 2007, 12:52:03 pm
One question:

I installed FS2 retail core, FSOpen 3.6.9 and 3.6.8 zeta mediavps. Now i want to install the others campaigns so the question is if i have to uninstall and install again or is there a faster way?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 06, 2007, 12:53:50 pm
If you put the mediavps in the \FreeSpace2\mediavps directory, you should be able to modify a text file to allow the Installer to only get the campaigns, instead of getting the stuff you already have again.... ask Turey exactly what to change.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 06, 2007, 07:32:57 pm
One question:

I installed FS2 retail core, FSOpen 3.6.9 and 3.6.8 zeta mediavps. Now i want to install the others campaigns so the question is if i have to uninstall and install again or is there a faster way?

Did you install them through my Installer? If so, just run it again. It will serve as an updater.

If you installed them manually, you can still simply run the Installer and give it the directory you manually installed to. It will check the integrity of the files you have. Due to recent changes in the hosting of the retail files and the FSO executables, it should finish checking them almost instantaneously. Mediavps might take a bit longer, but it will finish eventually.

There's no longer a need to modify the text file for a pre-installed retail setup. The checking has been sped up significantly, and it uses almost no bandwidth (as the files are unzipped).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: redpillstl on April 06, 2007, 08:33:14 pm
ok, I downloaded the installer and ran it against a fresh-off-bittorrent-retail-install   ( had to use demon tools to get the cd's images to be recognized) I actually have a set of cd's somewhere - but I'm unable to locate them at the moment.
 
I had to restart the open installer a couple of times - it was just "cyloning" back and forth and making no progress.  hit exit and restart and it would pick up where it left off.  finally said "successful install"

Now, when I run the launcher, go through setup, Successfully set up the system, and hit play, I get a dialog box as follows: "Attention! Please configure your system in the launcher before running FS2 - The launcher will now be started"  and a ok button  when I hit ok, I get "error: Freespace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory" and an ok button.

when i hit ok, I'm back at my desktop

suggestions, clues or requests for more information would be welcomed

Thanks,
Redpillstl



Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Alikchi on April 07, 2007, 12:16:41 am
I just downloaded the launcher and had everything go from scratch, no CDs. Everything seems to work - except asteroids are invisible and invincible. I cannot see them or hit them, although they are targeted in their white boxes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 07, 2007, 12:46:46 am
I just downloaded the launcher and had everything go from scratch, no CDs. Everything seems to work - except asteroids are invisible and invincible. I cannot see them or hit them, although they are targeted in their white boxes.

Turn on Jpeg/Tga textures in the launcher.

ok, I downloaded the installer and ran it against a fresh-off-bittorrent-retail-install   ( had to use demon tools to get the cd's images to be recognized) I actually have a set of cd's somewhere - but I'm unable to locate them at the moment.
 
I had to restart the open installer a couple of times - it was just "cyloning" back and forth and making no progress.  hit exit and restart and it would pick up where it left off.  finally said "successful install"

Now, when I run the launcher, go through setup, Successfully set up the system, and hit play, I get a dialog box as follows: "Attention! Please configure your system in the launcher before running FS2 - The launcher will now be started"  and a ok button  when I hit ok, I get "error: Freespace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory" and an ok button.

when i hit ok, I'm back at my desktop

suggestions, clues or requests for more information would be welcomed

Thanks,
Redpillstl

Where'd you install to?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: redpillstl on April 07, 2007, 02:40:45 am


ok, I downloaded the installer and ran it against a fresh-off-bittorrent-retail-install   ( had to use demon tools to get the cd's images to be recognized) I actually have a set of cd's somewhere - but I'm unable to locate them at the moment.
 
I had to restart the open installer a couple of times - it was just "cyloning" back and forth and making no progress.  hit exit and restart and it would pick up where it left off.  finally said "successful install"

Now, when I run the launcher, go through setup, Successfully set up the system, and hit play, I get a dialog box as follows: "Attention! Please configure your system in the launcher before running FS2 - The launcher will now be started"  and a ok button  when I hit ok, I get "error: Freespace2/Fred2 cannot be run from a drive root directory" and an ok button.

when i hit ok, I'm back at my desktop

suggestions, clues or requests for more information would be welcomed

Thanks,
Redpillstl

Where'd you install to?




C:\games\freespace2

redpillstl
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 07, 2007, 02:54:50 am
Ah.  Browse to the Freespace2 exe file in the top of the Launcher.  Select the one you want to use (make sure it's in the FS2 dir)... is that your problem?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Inquisitor on April 07, 2007, 09:05:04 am
I have linked the text of the original post by Turey to the SCP page on the wiki:

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Installing_fs2_open

Feel free to update as necessary or correct any transcription errors :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jacksondont on April 08, 2007, 05:02:55 am
So the online installer link is not working for me.  It looks like that page is down?  That site is totally down?  For anyone else? 
Thanks. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 08, 2007, 04:42:22 pm
So the online installer link is not working for me.  It looks like that page is down?  That site is totally down?  For anyone else? 
Thanks. 

It works for me, and I haven't heard anyone else complain. Perhaps whoever is in control of your internet connection is blocking it? Can you try from a different internet connection?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: mnftg64 on April 09, 2007, 12:03:11 am
Derelict and DuesExMachina don't seem to be downloading or even installing, are those files down?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on April 09, 2007, 06:46:11 am
Derelict is not.

http://fringespace.org/downloads/scp/derelict/

That's where the installer pulls it from.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Teta on April 10, 2007, 11:43:07 am
Hi folks

I installed the installer, but when i click on the fs2_open_3_6_9 button (to open it, presumeably!) i get the following message:

"cant understand 'videocardfs2open' registry entry"

i hit ok, and then get:

"run the fs2_open launcher to fix your problem. Would you like to download the latest version of the launcher? you must have at least version 5.0to run fs2_open version 3.6"

if i click OK it opens an internet page which cannot be found, if i double click the "launcher" (the button whose icon looks like a paw) it gives me a "illegal error" message.

Anyone got any idea whats going on!!!

Thanks, Rowan
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 10, 2007, 11:45:53 am
Run the Launcher.exe file, and tell the Launcher where to get the fs_open_3_6_9 file , then after setting the options, press "Apply" then "Run"

Oh, and
:welcome:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Teta on April 10, 2007, 11:51:20 am
hmmm, when i press it it says:

 "Launcher has caused an error in mfc42.dll, launcher will now close"
Is this gonna be a case of uninstall everythng and try again?

I might add, i allready have FS2 installed, i was told that was allright but, could that be causing a problem?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 10, 2007, 04:05:48 pm
Try re-downloading the launcher from here (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/Launcher.rar).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Teta on April 11, 2007, 04:02:21 am
Brilliant thanks trurey, works now  :D





Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 16, 2007, 07:24:50 pm
Ok Turey, I decided to fire up your installer on a Mac again.  This time a Mac with OS X Tiger 10.4, and Java 1.5, so it should be good, right?

Well, I had to tell it where to install, which is a bit odd, because whatever window it is that asks for the install path, didn't have a box to just type in a directory, and didn't seem to have a way to go to the parent folder (..) either.  So I decided I could just install it to a folder on my desktop and move it later.  I would have rather just been able to install it straigh to the applications folder but I just could not find a way to do that.

Anway, I hit the next button, unchecked both boxes when asked to update only, and whether to get everything, since I didn't have anything to update and didn't want to download everything since I only wanted a few core files.  So I hit next again, and the terminal window showed that it was going through and getting all of the mod files, and after awakenings showed up in the list, it just stopped.  The main window didn't show anything but a big white area, that I could scroll up and down in.  I couldn't hit next, couldn't click anything in the white area as far as I can tell, I wasn't prompted to do anything, it just stopped.  A bit of a bug, although it's odd, because a few weeks ago, I think I used the gui version on a friend of mine's mac, and it seemed to work ok.  I don't know if anything's been changed since then, just that it doesn't like my mac now.

Just thought I'd let you know, I'll help troubleshoot if you need it, or maybe you can help me if I'm just doing something wrong.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 16, 2007, 09:01:43 pm
@Turey: told you :p
@chief1983: Click the button that has the directory name in it.

big red button:


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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 16, 2007, 09:30:44 pm
I meant after hitting the button.  On a mac, the folder browser window that opens up is different than on windows.  It has a drop down with a few starting directories, a list of folders in the current directory (not a .. though), and a file format selector.  That's it.  No create folder, nothing else.  No way I can see to get to the Applications folder easily.

EDIT:  Ok, I missed it the first time, the drop down list at the top did have a hard drive root level choice, which then has the applications folder in it.  So don't worry about that I guess.  But I'm still having issues with the mod selection screen not showing up.

EDIT2:  Ok, that's working now too, don't know what I did differently.  But it loaded fine now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on April 16, 2007, 09:36:42 pm
Oops.
*looks around, hoping Turey isn't hiding somewhere with a sniper rifle* :nervous:
*runs* :shaking:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 16, 2007, 09:57:46 pm
Ok, this isn't my day for macs apparently.  While downloading the few things that I had checked, just for testing, it just decided to stop again.  It got the executable and the launcher, but failed to actually get any of the mods.  I had checked Just Another Day, and it seemed to have gotten stuck on that one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 17, 2007, 03:00:15 pm
Ok, this isn't my day for macs apparently.  While downloading the few things that I had checked, just for testing, it just decided to stop again.  It got the executable and the launcher, but failed to actually get any of the mods.  I had checked Just Another Day, and it seemed to have gotten stuck on that one.

What kind of internet connection are you using? Wireless or wired? What speed?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on April 17, 2007, 03:35:47 pm
I'm on a campus, and I have a wired 10mb connection straight to the campus pipe.  There may have been something going on with another computer that's on the hub I have set up, that this computer goes through.  It's fairly reliable most of the time since they started throttling high bandwidth users, but I wasn't being throttled at the moment.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Nico on May 07, 2007, 04:11:12 am
Just to say that it is running right now, it seems to work just fine, and it's a totally brilliant idea, kudos Turey, this is great work :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 07, 2007, 05:31:30 pm
I'll tell you guys right now any installer Turey makes is worth waiting to download. I'm on high sped cable and I have a win xp machine in the back on dial up, and I've waited all night downloading his installer, just to install Freespace on that particular computer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 07, 2007, 07:19:37 pm
Installer updated, changelog to follow.

Don't be scared by the version string on this one, I'm not stopping development. This is simply the version I'm going to turn in for school credit.

Changes:
-Minor UI changes, bit more user-friendly.
-Stupid bug fixed.
-Preliminary proxy support added. I'm not at all sure it'll work, but it's worth a try if you can't get past your proxy otherwise. Simply make a text file with the name proxy.txt and the following contents:
Code: [Select]
www.yourproxyserver.com:80
user:pass
Replacing the relevant parts with your proxy's info (you can leave out the second line if you don't need to log into the proxy). This file then goes in the folder where you're running the Installer from (not the folder you're installing to, but the one with FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.(jar||exe) in it). You probably won't get the pretty pictures on the top and side, but you'll get the files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 08, 2007, 01:17:13 am
Heh, I'm posting a poll...
Quote from: Paul Harvey
Stand by for news!

EDIT: Here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46997.0.html) you go.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 08, 2007, 03:41:58 pm
Turey strikes again, with yet another installer  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 18, 2007, 08:31:14 pm
Some interesting statistics (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/installerhits.txt)...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on May 18, 2007, 11:31:09 pm
290 downloads a day! Holy ****! :eek2:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Soulstorm on May 19, 2007, 10:00:33 am
I have a little problem here...

I downloaded the installer 5 minutes ago, and it seems the newest version does not work for me. I have installed the latest apple updates, including Java, and I am on an Intel iMac 17".

After the screen which asks me if I want to update the installed sections only, and stuff like that, I hit "next", and the installer just stops responding. I leave it alone for some minutes, and the next screen is completely blank for me, where it should display what files I want to install.

The application has generated an error log, "installer_error.lol.txt". This is it:

Code: [Select]
java.net.UnknownHostException: www.sectorgame.com
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(PlainSocketImpl.java:177)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:516)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Socket.java:466)
at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(NetworkClient.java:157)
at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:365)
at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(HttpClient.java:477)
at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(HttpClient.java:214)
at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:287)
at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(HttpClient.java:299)
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(HttpURLConnection.java:795)
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(HttpURLConnection.java:747)
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(HttpURLConnection.java:672)
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:916)
at FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.download(FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.java:85)
at SelectPage.activatePage(SelectPage.java:40)
at InstallerGUI.actionPerformed(InstallerGUI.java:115)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1882)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2202)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:420)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:258)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(BasicButtonListener.java:234)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:5554)
at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3126)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:5319)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2010)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4021)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2068)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3869)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4256)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3936)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3866)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2054)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:1774)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3869)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:463)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:269)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:190)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:184)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:176)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:110)
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException
at InstallerSection.<init>(InstallerSection.java:35)
at InstallerSection.<init>(InstallerSection.java:24)
at SelectPage.activatePage(SelectPage.java:41)
at InstallerGUI.actionPerformed(InstallerGUI.java:115)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1882)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:2202)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:420)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:258)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(BasicButtonListener.java:234)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:5554)
at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(JComponent.java:3126)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:5319)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:2010)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:4021)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2068)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3869)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:4256)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3936)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3866)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:2054)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:1774)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3869)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:463)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:269)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:190)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:184)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:176)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:110)

It seems that it creates the folder "Installer" which contains the info files for the data to be installed, but something happens since then. Has anyone reported this problem? Note that the older version of the installer worked fine on my computer (although I hadn't tested it on my Intel Mac, I had a PPC processor a few days ago).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 19, 2007, 05:56:58 pm
Soulstorm: Try clicking this link (http://www.sectorgame.com/goober/dem.txt). If it doesn't load, then sectorgame is being blocked by your Firewall/ISP/whatever. If it loads, save the text file to the Installer folder and try running the Installer again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Soulstorm on May 20, 2007, 03:29:15 am
OK, that corrected the problem, thanks.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 23, 2007, 01:21:12 am
All I get is this and then the installer stops.

Starting section: FreeSpace2 Retail Core
Checking: FRED2.exe
Current File Size: 93160
New File Size: 2973696
The File FRED2.exe is out of date.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 23, 2007, 01:28:51 am
erm... correct me if I'm wrong, Turey, but might this be caused by not having retail patched to 1.2, and trying to install SCP over that?  To fix it, then, you'd have to get the 1.2 patch (http://www.pxo.net/files/fs21x-12.exe).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 23, 2007, 09:41:23 am
All I get is this and then the installer stops.

Starting section: FreeSpace2 Retail Core
Checking: FRED2.exe
Current File Size: 93160
New File Size: 2973696
The File FRED2.exe is out of date.

Is the progress bar at the bottom moving?

erm... correct me if I'm wrong, Turey, but might this be caused by not having retail patched to 1.2, and trying to install SCP over that?  To fix it, then, you'd have to get the 1.2 patch (http://www.pxo.net/files/fs21x-12.exe).

Nah, it'll patch it if it's not patched.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 23, 2007, 10:47:26 am
No the bar isn't moving.
But since it is working for everyone else I must be doing something wrong.
Do I have to do a manual install with the CD's and then run this? I thought it would work basically as a full installer.
My ISP is also not blocking the connection. ( I guess I shouldn't say that. It might be lol)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 23, 2007, 02:10:42 pm
No the bar isn't moving.
But since it is working for everyone else I must be doing something wrong.
Do I have to do a manual install with the CD's and then run this? I thought it would work basically as a full installer.
My ISP is also not blocking the connection. ( I guess I shouldn't say that. It might be lol)

It does work as a full installer. It's connecting to the internet fine, which means it's likely a problem with your comp.

If you can use a command prompt, grab the .jar version, navigate to the directory where you downloaded it to, and type "java -jar -Xmx128m FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar" and hit enter. It should print debugging info to the command prompt. Once it freezes, right-click, hit "Mark", select the info it printed, and hit enter. This will copy it, and then you need to paste it here.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 23, 2007, 08:17:59 pm
Will do when I get a chance. A little later today. Just got off work. Thanks for all the help btw. Can't wait to play :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 24, 2007, 12:17:29 am
Just for reference, stuff that I'm planning for this summer:
- Finally put in Linux builds.
- Putting some of the stuff in Shivan's pack into the Installer (Perhaps timed with the release of pack 2.0)
- Any other features/additions you guys might suggest.
- Possibly end development and hand the whole thing off to someone else (I'm not sure, still debating this.)

Remind me about these sometime after June 20th, as I'll be too busy until then.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chrisltaylor on May 26, 2007, 05:01:03 pm
Hi there,

Sorry to bug, but I tried running the FSOpen Launcher once it had finished installing, and it said it was missing FSOpen.dll or something similar to that. What file am I missing?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 26, 2007, 05:08:53 pm
Hi there,

Sorry to bug, but I tried running the FSOpen Launcher once it had finished installing, and it said it was missing FSOpen.dll or something similar to that. What file am I missing?

Running Launcher.exe? What size is it?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chrisltaylor on May 26, 2007, 05:23:55 pm
Yes, sorry, the Open Launcher.exe. As to what size... er... do you mean the launcher, or the bug?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 26, 2007, 06:13:08 pm
Ok here is the text you wanted from me.
Hope it helps us.

java version "1.6.0_01"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_01-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0_01-b06, mixed mode, sharing)


C:\Documents and Settings\nasuno\Desktop>java -jar -Xmx128m FreeSpaceOpenInstall
er.jar
IntroPage(19456522)
DirPage(17829242)
OptionPage(15006066)
SelectPage(11850709)
InstallPage(29315749)
ExitPage(30079646)
www.fsoinstaller.com
/files/installer/java/
actionPerformed: next
actionPerformed: next
actionPerformed: next
FreeSpace2 Retail Core
FreeSpace2 Voice
FreeSpace2 Music
FreeSpace2 Tech Animations
FreeSpace2 Command Briefing Animations
FreeSpace2 Voice
FreeSpace2 Music
FreeSpace2 Tech Animations
FreeSpace2 Command Briefing Animations
FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Windows Executables
FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Macintosh (Universal Binary) Executables
FS2_Open Launcher for OS X
Multiplayer Missions
Multiplayer Voice Files
Multiplayer Voice Files
3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs With 710 Patches
3.6.8 Zeta Advanced MediaVPs With 710 Patches
3.6.8 Zeta Advanced MediaVPs With 710 Patches
.OGG Cutscenes
FreeSpace Modding Tools
Derelict
Derelict Voice Pack
Derelict Voice Pack
FreeSpace 2 Single Player Demo
Just Another Day
Just Another Day 2: Electric Boogaloo
FreeSpace Port
FreeSpace 1 Training Missions
1024x768 Interface Art
Ultra-High-Resolution Texture Maps
Glow Maps
Shine Maps
Music
Command Briefing Animations
Voice Files
FreeSpace 1 Cutscenes
Awakenings
Awakenings Voice Pack
FreeSpace 1 Training Missions
1024x768 Interface Art
Ultra-High-Resolution Texture Maps
Glow Maps
Shine Maps
Music
Command Briefing Animations
Voice Files
FreeSpace 1 Cutscenes
Awakenings
Awakenings Voice Pack
Awakenings Voice Pack
Deus Ex Machina
Homesick
Transcend
Sync
Just Another Day
Just Another Day 2: Electric Boogaloo
actionPerformed: next
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 26, 2007, 10:32:25 pm
Yes, sorry, the Open Launcher.exe. As to what size... er... do you mean the launcher, or the bug?

Launcher.

Ok here is the text you wanted from me.
Hope it helps us.

Odd. What options are you selecting?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 27, 2007, 12:43:44 am
For some bizarre reason it just started working.
I'll let you know if it stalls.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 27, 2007, 03:48:31 am
Ok I'll fess up. lol It's working now because I just realised that it was just going slow and I thought it wasn't working.
Thanks for the help sorry I was being stupid.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chrisltaylor on May 27, 2007, 11:27:55 am
Hah. You know, in retrospect, it would have helped had I installed OpenAL. I feel really dumb. :wtf:

Thanks for taking the time to help... sorry it turned out to be the standard user-error. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on May 28, 2007, 12:04:09 pm
Ok I'll fess up. lol It's working now because I just realised that it was just going slow and I thought it wasn't working.
Thanks for the help sorry I was being stupid.
Hah. You know, in retrospect, it would have helped had I installed OpenAL. I feel really dumb. :wtf:

Thanks for taking the time to help... sorry it turned out to be the standard user-error. :rolleyes:

Hey, at least it means that I don't have to change my code. That's always a plus.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nasuno on May 29, 2007, 02:21:52 pm
Nope your code is awesome! Thanks again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 30, 2007, 08:19:21 pm
Turey you change the code and it'l mess me up, I downloaded your latest and greatest, and man you are the FreeSpace installer god. If anybody ever says you don't know what your doing, just refer them to me, I'll be more than happy to set them straight :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on May 31, 2007, 07:33:33 am
I just installed FS with this installer and the game doesn't really look like it's supposed to  :(. At first I only installed "FreeSpace Retail Core" and all its subcategories, the 3.6.9 mac executable and the launcher. After seeing how it looked, I also installed the 3.6.8 zeta mediavp's (not the advanced ones). That didn't solve the problem. I also tried deleting the ~/Library/FS_Open/Cache folder a couple of times, but to no avail.

Since it's kind of hard to describe how the game looks, I've posted some screenshots. One other important thing though: in the tech room, most of the ships don't show when I click on them. So my first thoughts were that I was missing textures or smt like that.

Screenshots:
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen1.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen1.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen2.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen2.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen3.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen3.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen4.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen4.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen5.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen5.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen6.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen6.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen7.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen7.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen8.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen8.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen9.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen9.jpg)
http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen10.jpg (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screens/screen10.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 31, 2007, 01:00:48 pm
Do you have the -jpgtga textures option on?  (You should).

My "Features" tab in the Launcher looks like this:  (You did get the Launcher for OSX in Turey's Installer, right?)

(All enabled, unless specified disabled):

List type:
Graphics:
Enable specular
Enable glowmaps
Enable environment maps
Enable jpg/tga textures
Enable mipmapping
Disable motion debris
Stops fog intersect hull
(not selected - disabled) Disable scale-to-window for movies
Apply Lighting to Missiles (you may or may not want this, check and see if it affects your performance.. turn it on, if you have issues, turn it off.)

HUD:
Another pair of scanning lines
Enable info next to target
Enables 3d radar
Enable Rearm/Repair Completion Timer
Enable the analog ballistic ammo gauge

Gameplay:
Use models for ship selection
Enable 3d warp
Enable flash upon warp
(disable next two, Babylon & Wing Commander...)

Added to "Custom flags":
-ambient_factor 0 -no_emissive_light -fov 0.55 -spec_exp 16.7 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 0.9 -spec_tube 1

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on May 31, 2007, 02:04:19 pm
Thx for your reply. None of those options worked though (I already had most of the settings "right"). BUT, I got it working by enabling the mediavp's (-mod mediavps). Everything seems fine now. I guess the engine doesn't really work anymore with the original freespace 2 graphics.

Greetings
Tomas
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on May 31, 2007, 03:02:49 pm
It should work perfectly well with the original graphics. Something is very wrong with your install if it doesn't.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 31, 2007, 04:18:41 pm
I just reinstalled FS and I have no problems yet, only thing I notice is its the monitor drawing is a little more sharp than it was before.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 02, 2007, 02:35:41 pm
It should work perfectly well with the original graphics. Something is very wrong with your install if it doesn't.

I let the installer handle everything. I didn't touch a thing myself ;-).
I've noticed that the cyclops missile is still missing from the game, even when I use the mediavp's.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 02, 2007, 04:40:39 pm
Erg.  Time to post the problem solver again.

Can you post your directory listing?  Start->Run, type
Code: [Select]
cmd press enter
type
Code: [Select]
dir "c:\games\freespace2" /s>"%homepath%\my documents\fs2dir.txt"(replace c:\games\freespace2 with your fs2 dir drive / path as neccessary)
Then, post it, hit "Additional Options", hit "Browse", find your fs2dir.txt file in your My Documents folder, then post it - if you don't see "Additional Options", then hit the "Preview" button first, then it will show up.

K?  :)

Compare it with my working version, seen below.

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on June 02, 2007, 07:05:56 pm
Only problem I've had so far is when I enabled everything when I first started the launcher, if I do enable everything the game will lock up, stall, lag, and generally not work right, but that would be my own fault for doing that without a video card installed wouldn't it?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 02, 2007, 07:43:56 pm
Did you enable everything?  There are experimental, troubleshooting, and multiplayer options that don't need enabling.  See my post (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg964740.html#msg964740) from earlier.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 03, 2007, 05:44:45 am
Erg.  Time to post the problem solver again.

Can you post your directory listing?  Start->Run, type
Code: [Select]
cmd press enter
type
Code: [Select]
dir "c:\games\freespace2" /s>"%homepath%\my documents\fs2dir.txt"(replace c:\games\freespace2 with your fs2 dir drive / path as neccessary)
Then, post it, hit "Additional Options", hit "Browse", find your fs2dir.txt file in your My Documents folder, then post it - if you don't see "Additional Options", then hit the "Preview" button first, then it will show up.

K?  :)

Compare it with my working version, seen below.

Thx for your reply, but I'm running fsopen on OS X and the directory listing isn't quite the same. Ofcourse I don't have any extra mods (yet) like you have :)

You can find my directory listing at http://users.pandora.be/silencer/FS_listing.txt (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/FS_listing.txt).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 03, 2007, 12:28:33 pm
You can find my directory listing at http://users.pandora.be/silencer/FS_listing.txt (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/FS_listing.txt).

Needs file sizes too.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 03, 2007, 01:35:18 pm
eh, can you type "du -?" and tell me what that gives you?  or "du -h" or whatever Mac OS X uses to give command line options & explainations.  Then I can tell you what to type.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 03, 2007, 02:15:09 pm
eh, can you type "du -?" and tell me what that gives you?  or "du -h" or whatever Mac OS X uses to give command line options & explainations.  Then I can tell you what to type.

I updated the file. The command I used is on the first line. I also made a file from the man page of the du command for you: http://users.pandora.be/silencer/du_man.txt (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/du_man.txt). Some letters are repeated, those are normally in bold in the terminal ;-).

Thx for the help
Tomas
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on June 03, 2007, 04:53:40 pm
Did you enable everything?  There are experimental, troubleshooting, and multiplayer options that don't need enabling.  See my post (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg964740.html#msg964740) from earlier.

Well yea I enabled everything, LOL I fixed that problem, I only have enabled what I had enabled when I had my old computer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 04, 2007, 01:33:59 am
Gah!  Turey, can you make sense of that?  There seems to be something not quite right there... :eek2:
eh, can you type "du -?" and tell me what that gives you?  or "du -h" or whatever Mac OS X uses to give command line options & explainations.  Then I can tell you what to type.

I updated the file. The command I used is on the first line. I also made a file from the man page of the du command for you: http://users.pandora.be/silencer/du_man.txt (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/du_man.txt). Some letters are repeated, those are normally in bold in the terminal ;-).

Thx for the help
Tomas
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 04, 2007, 04:05:14 am
One more thing. Before every file the installer was about to download, it said "File is out of date", then went ahead and downloaded it anyway. Don't know if that matters.

Btw, I can't continue playing. I'm in the special ops mission where you have to shoot asteroids flying towards the iceni, but I can't see the asteroids ;).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 04, 2007, 02:12:42 pm
One more thing. Before every file the installer was about to download, it said "File is out of date", then went ahead and downloaded it anyway. Don't know if that matters.

Btw, I can't continue playing. I'm in the special ops mission where you have to shoot asteroids flying towards the iceni, but I can't see the asteroids ;).

Enabe jpeg/tga textures.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 04, 2007, 05:38:20 pm
It's already enabled. My commandline is:

-spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -missile_lighting -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -img2dds -no_vsync -cache_bitmaps -dualscanlines -targetinfo -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -loadallweps -fps -mod mediavps
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 04, 2007, 08:23:18 pm
Try:
-spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp -warp_flash -no_vsync -dualscanlines -targetinfo -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -fps -mod mediavps
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 05, 2007, 03:52:21 am
Still no difference. Would it help if I deleted everything and ran the installer again?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Sarkoth on June 05, 2007, 05:15:54 am
I've got a littel problem since i updated my files. I had marked "yes to all" and the freespace 2 retail core files were added. since then i have some bugs into my hud. for example there is missing the "1". This means, f i am 10000 units away from something, i see nothing but " 0000"

in a distance of 1231 i see  " 23 "

The same goes for missile slots  " 0" missiles instead of "10" shown and so on.

Adding to this there are some other symbols missing, like the triangle pointers showing which wepons are in use, which missiles are loaded or if its single or double shot.

It's not unplayable, but it is a pain so far.

Can anyone help me to ged rid of my problem?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 05, 2007, 07:10:40 am
Erg.  Time to post the problem solver again.

Can you post your directory listing?  Start->Run, type
Code: [Select]
cmd press enter
type
Code: [Select]
dir "c:\games\freespace2" /s>"%homepath%\my documents\fs2dir.txt"(replace c:\games\freespace2 with your fs2 dir drive / path as neccessary)
Then, post it, hit "Additional Options", hit "Browse", find your fs2dir.txt file in your My Documents folder, then post it - if you don't see "Additional Options", then hit the "Preview" button first, then it will show up.

K?  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Sarkoth on June 05, 2007, 12:03:16 pm
In fact, it seems there is no fs2dir.txt anywhere on my system. O.o

Edit: I don't know if i should call myself stupid or not. But i installed FS2Open over a German Retail Version und it went fine. Now, the update screwed up, so i changed the registry value from German to English and now everything is how it should be.

Problem solved.

Intereseting part remains, why there was this kind of bug occuring, which not existed before.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 05, 2007, 01:02:32 pm
The fs2dir.txt file is normally created by the command jr2 was telling you to run ;-). It's just a list of the files and directory structure of the game, so they can help you ;-).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Aardwolf on June 05, 2007, 10:31:06 pm
Hey, I want to get this for my ex-gf, she once expressed an interest in this...

Is it simple enough a non-computer-savvy person could use it? And does it include everything necessary from retail?

*sigh*
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 06, 2007, 12:52:58 am
Hey, I want to get this for my ex-gf, she once expressed an interest in this...

Is it simple enough a non-computer-savvy person could use it? And does it include everything necessary from retail?

*sigh*
Thanks in advance.

Yes and Yes. If you want to make it even easier, you can give her this guide (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47045.0.html).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 06, 2007, 09:39:39 am
I took another screenshot of something that's clearly buggy/missing. Also, using the advanced effects mediavp's doesn't help. What was missing remains missing, and all the rest looks a lot better ;). I thought the adv_effects included high resolution asteroids though, guess I was wrong, because they remain invisible.

screen: http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screen.png (http://users.pandora.be/silencer/screen.png)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 06, 2007, 06:20:50 pm
In fact, it seems there is no fs2dir.txt anywhere on my system. O.o

Edit: I don't know if i should call myself stupid or not. But i installed FS2Open over a German Retail Version und it went fine. Now, the update screwed up, so i changed the registry value from German to English and now everything is how it should be.

Problem solved.

Intereseting part remains, why there was this kind of bug occuring, which not existed before.

You don't have this german version, do you?  If so, see if changing the language to English helps.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Volition\FreeSpace2
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Sarkoth on June 07, 2007, 02:10:08 am
I did.

Thats why i wrote "Problem solved"

But Thanks anyway buddy. It helped. ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 07, 2007, 03:17:34 am
I meant tomas, he might have the same deal.  IDK
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 07, 2007, 04:37:53 am
No German version. I only used the installer, nothing else. And I'm running OSX, so registry keys don't really apply here :)

I tried deleting everything and then redownloading, but the problems persist. Even other campaigns, like fsport, are missing textures (in this case, most of the terran and vasudan fighters are only visible because of their engine glow). I'm starting to think that I'm not missing anything, it's just a bug in the application itself. Too bad :(

Edit: seems it's a problem associated with the ati X1600 videocard in my macbook pro (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46550.0.html (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46550.0.html))
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 08, 2007, 06:38:22 am
Any way to get a firmware or driver update for it?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 08, 2007, 07:59:02 am
Not that I know of :(
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 08, 2007, 06:22:28 pm
Any way to get a new GFX card?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: tomas1601 on June 09, 2007, 11:16:08 am
No. Btw, in one of the earlier missions, there are also asteroids, and I can see those! Is there any difference between the asteroids you have to shoot and those that are just there for decoration? :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MarsNeedsWomen on June 14, 2007, 08:01:00 pm
I'm having trouble with the installer again. It won't install fs port into my Freespace2 folder. I get an error report telling me there is was problem installing.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on June 14, 2007, 08:20:55 pm
Everybody having all the installer problems makes me feel blessed by the FreeSpace gods, cause since I reloaded the computer and got rid of all the "supplemental" software that was shipped with it, FS runs better. Its almost like having a high end video card.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on June 15, 2007, 04:35:11 pm
Hi, I downloaded this game a week or so ago and noticed that none of the asteroids are present on the game. You can't crash into them and you can't see them though they can crash into the Icini. Any idea has how to fix this, as it makes the 'Rebels & Renegades' mission impossible.

Oh and my mate downloaded this game and for some reason all the voices are in microsoft speak- sort of ruining the game. Any idea how to fix this too. Bar the 2 problems noted above this game PWNS.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 15, 2007, 06:32:15 pm
OK, make sure you have the JPG,TGA option on, for the first problem.  For the second, it appears that maybe the voice files were left out?  Did he get the voice packs too?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on June 16, 2007, 11:00:19 am
I'm  new to vista, so how would I check the JPG and TGA options.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 16, 2007, 11:18:50 am
In the Launcher, under the "Features" Tab... OK, let me tell you how mine is: (also see picture at bottom... it is color coded with this text:)

Under the list type "Graphics",
I have everything except "disable scale to window for movies" selected.

Under the list type "HUD",
I have everything selected.

Under the list type "Gameplay",
I have the first three options selected, the last two unselected.

The rest I haven't touched, except that I have this in the "Custom flags" text box:

-ambient_factor 0 -no_emissive_light -fov 0.55 -spec_exp 16.7 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 0.9 -spec_tube 1

(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4725/launcheran8.th.jpg) (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=launcheran8.jpg)

OK?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Gank on June 17, 2007, 05:10:24 pm
Cant get this to work. Used tureys installer to download the full game and installed openal. The launcher wont run when I click on it unless I delete launcher6.ini every time. In the launcher clicking on the run button does nothing, checked task manager and the process doesnt even start and if I manually run fs_open_3_6_9 it gives the following error:
Faulting application fs2_open_3_6_9.exe, version 1.0.0.1, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x000106c3.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 17, 2007, 05:36:31 pm
Cant get this to work. Used tureys installer to download the full game and installed openal. The launcher wont run when I click on it unless I delete launcher6.ini every time. In the launcher clicking on the run button does nothing, checked task manager and the process doesnt even start and if I manually run fs_open_3_6_9 it gives the following error:
Faulting application fs2_open_3_6_9.exe, version 1.0.0.1, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x000106c3.
Try these:
http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62754&postcount=2
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 17, 2007, 06:49:00 pm
Installer and mod text specs updated, changelog to follow.

Mirror support added. Details on mod text spec page (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/modhelp.html).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Gank on June 17, 2007, 10:02:31 pm
Aye cheers that did the trick, old version of opena;
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 18, 2007, 03:48:01 am
Hey Turey, what are the chances of you implementing a scanner for old versions of OpenAL into your FSOI?  ;)  Just wondering about the feasibility.  Feel free to smack me if I don't know what I'm talking about.  :nervous:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 18, 2007, 04:06:31 am
Hey Turey, what are the chances of you implementing a scanner for old versions of OpenAL into your FSOI?  ;)  Just wondering about the feasibility.  Feel free to smack me if I don't know what I'm talking about.  :nervous:

Not likely. I mean, I could just tell it to delete those files if it found them, but I'd like something a bit more... elegant.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 18, 2007, 04:09:40 am
Hnnnmm, I meant something to detect it & warn the user in the comments section at the end... ?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 18, 2007, 04:21:21 pm
Installer updated (Zip still uploading...) changelog to follow.

Fixed large, important bug with downloading non-zipped files.
Added new text file. Nothing the average user needs to be informed of, but anyone wanting to use the Installer for their TC should check out the updated TC page on fsoinstaller.com.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on June 19, 2007, 10:42:35 am
Just scanning for the old versions and linking to a page on the installer website would probably be better than simply waiting for the user to find things don't work and come here though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 19, 2007, 01:46:47 pm
Just scanning for the old versions and linking to a page on the installer website would probably be better than simply waiting for the user to find things don't work and come here though.

Next update, I'll try it. Three versions in as many days would be excessive.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 20, 2007, 03:03:16 am
Nah, it wouldn't... you're on fire!!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 21, 2007, 07:11:58 pm
Another stupid bug related to the new mirror support has been fixed. Sorry about that. Will upload new version in a bit.  :sigh:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Heinrich on June 21, 2007, 08:48:48 pm
Another stupid bug related to the new mirror support has been fixed. Sorry about that. Will upload new version in a bit.  :sigh:

Hi, your work makes life SO much easier.  Thank you  :) :yes:

Is your comment why I see several entries on some of the mods such as:

Post-Installation Notes for Awakenings
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Awakenings Voice Pack
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Cardinal Spear
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.



The prior screen shows "all mirror download sites have failed"

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 21, 2007, 09:08:11 pm
Nope. That's the one recent problem with the Installer that's not my fault. The server hosting those files has gone down, and there's no real replacement.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Heinrich on June 21, 2007, 09:37:22 pm
 :( ok will poke around more for alternative manual ways to download.  Thanks, I got quite far though with getting the basic up.  Thank you  :yes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 21, 2007, 10:09:23 pm
FSPort has been temporarily removed until a mirror goes up or wcsaga.com comes back from the dead.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 21, 2007, 10:17:21 pm
What the heck happened to wcsaga.com?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on June 22, 2007, 07:57:10 pm
So no new installers for a while :(?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 25, 2007, 10:48:13 pm
WCSaga.com is back up, and so are the Port mirrors. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on June 26, 2007, 03:26:40 pm
And the crowd goes YEA!

One thing I like about this place and the people associated with it, you guys know what your doing, Every other Sim I played, the tech support has the IQ of a dead cat, except this one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: VulturEMaN on June 29, 2007, 09:06:41 pm
wow it's been an eternity since I posted anything  :shaking: lol

Anyways, I just ran this LOVELY installer over my friend's house. FS2 works just fine, but the FSPort gives this error when entering the Ready Room:

Error: Invalid subsystem name.

In sexpression: ( when
   ( true )
   ( repair-subsystem
      "GTCv Deimos"
      "turret26"
      100
   )
)
(Error appears to be: turret26)
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Mission\MissionParse.cpp
Line: 5798
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 29, 2007, 09:17:38 pm
Select the FSPort Campaign in the Campaign room first.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on July 01, 2007, 06:10:48 am
JR2 my features box is empty, what is up with that!
All of it, and on the scroll down things it is empty to.

Will i have to download it all again- though i have tried this twice already.

Any idea as to how i can get the the options under the features tab.

Thx.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on July 01, 2007, 06:19:29 am
Just had to download it again, since i rebooted and cleaned my entire system. For some reason i get alot of crackling in the sound. Tried fidgeting around with the sound quality but wont seem to stop.


Any help? The gameplay is fine, but the crackling is driving me bananas
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 01, 2007, 09:33:59 am
Just had to download it again, since i rebooted and cleaned my entire system. For some reason i get alot of crackling in the sound. Tried fidgeting around with the sound quality but wont seem to stop.


Any help? The gameplay is fine, but the crackling is driving me bananas

Try new sound drivers?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 01, 2007, 03:36:05 pm
Yes, get the latest AC97 drivers from Realtek (http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC)... I'm sure that's what you have, because that's an issue with their older drivers.

JR2 my features box is empty, what is up with that!
All of it, and on the scroll down things it is empty to.
Thx.

Make sure you have the 3.6.9 executable selected ?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on July 01, 2007, 09:14:05 pm
fixed the problem. thanks. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on July 08, 2007, 04:16:50 pm

Make sure you have the 3.6.9 executable selected ?
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Yes it does say however that failed to read flag file

I don't know what that means but is that why its not working, and if so how an it be fixed.

thx

p.s sorry for the long times it takes me to reply but i've just finished my a-level exams so my computer gaming taking a back seat.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 08, 2007, 04:40:25 pm
Did you install OpenAL?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on July 08, 2007, 05:49:31 pm
I have installed open al

Though i'm going to download it again just to make sure.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 09, 2007, 01:56:08 am
Yes... if that doesn't work, then ask kara for his directions on how to remove buggy old versions of OpenAL; they conflict with the newest versions.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 09, 2007, 03:54:10 am
Quote
2) Your OpenAL install is corrupt (Windows users check Windows\System32 for either ct_oal.dll or nvopenal.dll. These are the OpenAL 1.0 .dlls and they are causing the screwup. Delete them and run the OpenAL installer (RunMeFirst) again. ). If that doesn't work try deleting OpenAL32.dll and wrap_oal.dll and then running the RunMeFirst file again.
3) You (windows users only) selected something other than Generic Software from the Launcher's Audio tab. Switch it back.

I think 2) is the likely cause but 3) is worth checking anyway. I really ought to write those up somewhere on here as I'm posting it entirely too often. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 09, 2007, 03:56:08 am
eh, except, instead of "runmefirst", run the OpenAL Installer again... the OAL installer was named "runmefirst" for BtRL, which is kara's guide he just posted.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 09, 2007, 04:28:54 am
Didn't spot that. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on July 09, 2007, 08:07:08 am
No sill it is unable to read flag file, on the features tab of the lanucher it is still empty. And only the ships appear in game. i.e no asteriods.
Making the Rebels & Renegades'  undo able. I've downloaded the open al 1.1 core sdk from there website, and has not helped. Following the advise from
karajorma but it has changed nothing. Any idea as to what is wrong.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 09, 2007, 12:10:51 pm
It's not the SDK you want but the runtime. Although I'd expect installing the SDK would install the runtime (It's bloody ages since I did it myself since OpenAL is now in CVS and I don't need the SDK).

My advice is to delete the launcher6.ini and then see what happens when you run the launcher. If you see a flags.lch file delete that too. I suspect that will kill the error if it's the problem I think that it is.

If it doesn't fix the problem give me the version number of the launcher and FS2_Open (should be 5.5c and 3.6.9). You should also check your Windows\System32 folder and tell me which of the files I mentioned above are present.

You should also wish follow the procedure mentioned here (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62785&postcount=11) and post the first 30 or so lines. That would definitely rule out OpenAL as the cause of your problems.


The asteroids problem is a separate issue and is caused by you not having jpg and tga textures enabled. You can easily turn them back on in the launcher once you can get it to work.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 09, 2007, 10:46:06 pm
@kara: SDK does install runtime... so it's not that.  (I've installed SDK b4, had no problems...)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 10, 2007, 11:58:21 am
I don't think the problem is OpenAL to be honest. I think it's a bad launcher initiation that's the issue, probably due to a corrupt launcher6.ini.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Madaxemat on July 11, 2007, 04:46:27 am
You were right it was the launcher. Thanks alot, everything is now working!!!! :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:04:35 am
I downloaded this with your installer and can't find it on my comp.

I found it in My Docs but it's only 1.17 MB and tells me I can't run it out of a root directory.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:23:12 am
Oy.  Where did you tell the Installer to put it?  The default is C:\Games\FreeSpace2  Did you change that?  If so, what to?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:24:05 am
I did that, now I am trying desktop.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:25:32 am
You should be able to use Launcher.exe located in your c:\games\freespace2 directory.  Try that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:26:54 am
no such directory exists.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:29:12 am
So, you changed the Installer directory to your "my documents" directory?  hmm.  And you have no freespace folder in my documents?  what I'm asking is, is the launcher.exe file located in your my documents dir or my documents\freespace2 or similar?  Where exactly is it?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:30:32 am
MY documents, the launcher is in my documents, that's where, no sub folder or anything
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:33:18 am
Ok.. hrm... what did you select in the installer?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:35:24 am
the default  :bump:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:39:26 am
Which, IIRC, is just about everything...  if you can figure out which files were installed, and put them & the folders into a subfolder "freespace2", that would be good...  b4 you do that, how long did the download take?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:40:41 am
I left the room to watch Law and Order, I don't know. About 40 mins I think
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 01:43:16 am
eh, re-install, select all options that you want/find interesting (I'd get all except the Mac stuff), put it in c:\games\freespace2 , like it normally is... ie, hit "next" instead of clicking in the middle of the Installer window...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 01:46:01 am
I'll do that if this doesn't work
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 02:02:57 am
I found the launcher but I need to install OpenAL, can I have a link?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 02:07:43 am
Ya.  www.openal.org > Downloads > Windows section | OpenAL 1.1 Installer for Windows
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 04:52:58 pm
Didn't work

****
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 04:54:47 pm
****

YOU
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 12, 2007, 05:00:29 pm
lol

got any advice to make it work?  :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 09:28:26 pm
kara has a troubleshooting guide for OpenAL problems.  Follow it (when he posts it, I've gotta put it in my siggy.. grrr)
Except, instead of "runmefirst", it's referring to the OpenAL installer there, as the guide he made referred to an installation where they had renamed the intaller.

@kara Actually, if you can post that link one more time, I'll copy it verbatim except for the runmefirst bit over here to a new thread, and put a link in my siggy (if I can squeeze it in grrrrr).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 12, 2007, 10:53:00 pm
jr2: http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62754&postcount=2
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 13, 2007, 12:58:04 pm
I got the game ot launch but the cutscenes don't play and all I have is the FS2 Campagin, none of the mods.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 13, 2007, 05:22:54 pm
I got the game ot launch but the cutscenes don't play and all I have is the FS2 Campagin, none of the mods.

1. Are you using OpenGL?
2. You have to run the launcher, go to the mod tab, select the mod's folder.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 14, 2007, 01:53:40 am
@Turey: done (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48160.0.html).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 14, 2007, 04:39:41 am
I got the game ot launch but the cutscenes don't play and all I have is the FS2 Campagin, none of the mods.

Don't post multiple help requests. It actually makes it harder to help you because I might give conflicting advice to Turey or jr2 in one thread and then you'll completely cock things up by trying to do both.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Vasudan Commander on July 15, 2007, 01:54:45 am
Wait, are you running that new Windows Vista? Its possible that SCP may not be compatible with that, unless someone else here has vista and runs SCP already.


Just a thought.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 15, 2007, 12:46:21 pm
Wait, are you running that new Windows Vista? Its possible that SCP may not be compatible with that, unless someone else here has vista and runs SCP already.


Just a thought.

SCP should work with Vista, as long as your graphics card drivers are up to date.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 15, 2007, 03:26:29 pm
I got it all to work, thanks guys.

I can tell you all fi it works for Vista in a month if someone doesn't tell you by then. My home PC is Vista and I'm on an XP right now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 15, 2007, 04:44:43 pm
It works on Vista as long as you use recent drivers. We'd hear a lot more complaints if it didn't.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: oposable on July 15, 2007, 05:38:23 pm
I dunno how much of a newb question this is, but lets say I'm using windows. I get the windows version of the installer and tell it to download everything. If I suddenly decide to get a mac, can I just put my fs2 folder onto a flash drive, dump it on my mac, and expect it to work?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 15, 2007, 07:50:23 pm
If you download the Mac exe's and OpenAL it should.

:welcome:
oposable, Enjoy your stay! :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: oposable on July 16, 2007, 12:01:24 am
Yay, I don't have to download everything again! Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 17, 2007, 11:51:43 pm
Borg Install instruction for newbies:

1: Choose the installer that DOESN'T run on Java
2: While it si downloading go to My Computer, double click the C Drive and then go to file and create a new folder, call it FreeSpace 2
3: Extract all the files when the installer finishes and begin the installation
4: Do not uncheck anything and tell ti to save to your FreeSpace 2 FOLDER (DO THIS OR IT MIGHT NOT WORK!!!)
5: Go to sleep once the installer starts
6: Tomorrow morning, finish the instalation and download OpenAl
7: Go into your FreeSpace 2 folder and choose the FS2 launcher that looks like a paw
8: Configure the launcher to your ocmp settings and optionally choose a mod in the mods tab
9: Kick some Vasudan/Shivan/Terran ass!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Hades on July 17, 2007, 11:57:45 pm
5: Go to sleep once the installer starts

 :lol: It takes so damn long for it to install.Because of port. :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: koe on July 18, 2007, 04:52:51 am
Hello there,

I got the "outdated" message while getting the fs2 installed...HELP!

i've already tried with both versions of installation files
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 18, 2007, 03:42:28 pm
Allow the updater to search for a newer version, that is if Turey has built that into his latest and greatest
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 18, 2007, 06:42:06 pm
Allow the updater to search for a newer version, that is if Turey has built that into his latest and greatest

It's always been in there, and always will be.

Hello there,

I got the "outdated" message while getting the fs2 installed...HELP!

i've already tried with both versions of installation files

Is this the "Installer is outdated" message, or the "File is out of date" message?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 18, 2007, 09:45:09 pm
Turey I just D/L'd and installed the latest, no out dated messages here at all. If that helps any
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 19, 2007, 09:49:52 am
You didn't get the FreeSpace2 Online Installer, instead of the FreeSpace Open Installer, did you?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 19, 2007, 05:10:36 pm
I didn't know there was a freespace2 online installer, I download whatever Turey has up, and run it, I get FS1 and FS2 installed plus whatever mod he has in there too.

please tell me where a Freespace2 online installer is, cause I missed something somewhere.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 20, 2007, 05:36:19 pm
An old, outdated version of the Open Installer that only installed Retail FS2.  If you didn't get it, then you're good.  Just use the Open Installer, it gets both Retail and SCP (and FSPort, etc, etc.).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 20, 2007, 06:04:54 pm
To celebrate today, some small cosmetic changes have been made to the Installer.  :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 20, 2007, 06:09:48 pm
.jar version not found on your server:

Not Found

The requested URL /files/installer/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shade on July 20, 2007, 06:15:30 pm
Hmm, let me see. Either it's somebody's birthday, you're a Colombian, or it's the moon landing. I'll have to go with the moon landing, since that's definitely worth celebrating :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 20, 2007, 06:16:09 pm
.jar version not found on your server:

Not Found

The requested URL /files/installer/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

You messed up the URL (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 20, 2007, 06:18:01 pm
Hmm, let me see. Either it's somebody's birthday, you're a Colombian, or it's the moon landing. I'll have to go with the moon landing, since that's definitely worth celebrating :)

Impressive! Yes, it's the 38th anniversary of the moon landing!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 20, 2007, 06:18:41 pm
No; your Installer messed up the URL.. I just hit "Yes" to d'l the new version, and it brought me to the above mentioned page... :wtf:  Is this fixed in the new version?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 20, 2007, 06:32:17 pm
No; your Installer messed up the URL.. I just hit "Yes" to d'l the new version, and it brought me to the above mentioned page... :wtf:  Is this fixed in the new version?

It shouldn't have even thought it was out of date... Anyways, yes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 20, 2007, 06:52:41 pm
An old, outdated version of the Open Installer that only installed Retail FS2.  If you didn't get it, then you're good.  Just use the Open Installer, it gets both Retail and SCP (and FSPort, etc, etc.).


I don't need that one I have FS1 and FS2 on disk, FS1 I found at a thrift store, and FS2 I downloaded from one of the links that HPD had when I first started playing FS.
The only installers I have ever used are the ones that turey makes and turns lose on the general public.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 20, 2007, 06:56:55 pm
Waht it is I think is the centre of the box is showing all the downloaded documents. During the download it kept saying "This file is out of date" over most of the documents.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 20, 2007, 07:02:09 pm
Waht it is I think is the centre of the box is showing all the downloaded documents. During the download it kept saying "This file is out of date" over most of the documents.

That's normal. If all the files on your hard drive were the same as the ones on the server, there'd be no reason to download them, would there?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Locutus of Borg on July 21, 2007, 01:38:58 am
I had to download your installer 3 times before it worked.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 25, 2007, 08:05:39 am
Locutus I beat you, I downloaded it once and it assimilated into my computers collective with no problems :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 25, 2007, 09:07:56 pm
Hey guys this is my first post, I'm new here =]
After playing freelancer for a week I was out looking for other space games and came across FS2
Me being me, I have to play games in order as the story is a huge chunk of the game for me, and here lies my problem:

I downloaded Turey's FreeSpace Open Installer (java version)
Everything downloads EXCEPT,  fsport and its campaigns, only the fs1OGG cutscene pack seemed to download. I know this because when the install finished, on all the fsport spots it said mirror failed to be reached or something like that, then at the last screen of the installer I get these messages:

Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace Port
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace 1 Training Missions
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for 1024x768 Interface Art
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.

Post-Installation Notes for Ultra-High-Resolution Texture Maps
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Glow Maps
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Shine Maps
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Music
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.

Post-Installation Notes for Command Briefing Animations
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Voice Files
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Awakenings
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Awakenings Voice Pack
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.

Post-Installation Notes for Cardinal Spear
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Cardinal Spear Voice Pack
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Destiny of Peace
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


Post-Installation Notes for Destiny of Peace Voice Pack
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.


ALSO, when I go to rerun in the installer and it lets me choose what to install, everythings greyed out (I'm guessing that means I have downloaded it already) EXCEPT for fsport and everything that includes, only the cutscenes is downloaded.

Is there a solution ot this problem, another place I can download the same fsport and the main campaigns?

Thanks for taking the time to read this and help me =]
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 25, 2007, 10:06:40 pm
It appears that the FSPort site is down... again. I'll look into it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Excalibur on July 25, 2007, 10:40:52 pm
Hey guys this is my first post, I'm new here =]

I think it's time for another...
:welcome:

Enjoy your time here Shootaz.

I'm still relatively new here too...but no harm in welcoming someone! :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 26, 2007, 12:34:51 am
Well turey I guess right now isn't a good time to run the installer huh LOL



Hello shootaz, welcome to what is STILL the best computer game around, of all of them,
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 26, 2007, 10:16:08 am
Alright, thanks a bunch Turey, and thanks for the warm welcome guys.

Do you guys think I should use my joystick or my mouse?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 26, 2007, 01:15:50 pm
Oh man I can answer that one for ya LOL, use a joystick :) I did the mouse thing but thats too much like a old style computer game for me, FreeSpace with a stick that has a good throttle and a few buttons, and you'll be in heaven
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 26, 2007, 04:08:16 pm
Ok, thanks =]

Time to search for the darn joystick cd now  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 26, 2007, 07:35:35 pm
Which stick on what OS are you using, I might be able to help there too LOL.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 26, 2007, 07:52:19 pm
Gravis Blackhawk Digital, im on windows XP, if I look harder Im sure ill find it lol

*Edit: Found it =D

Do you know where I can download the fsport, because I cant start playing if I dont start with the first campaign
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 26, 2007, 08:04:43 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.0.html
http://fsport.hard-light.net/website/


This is all you need.
Unless your my 13 year old and can't figure out how to download anything at all unless it will run the cell phone bill through the roof.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 26, 2007, 08:47:12 pm
Well in tureys installer, the fsport and its campagins arent working since the host site is down, and for the fsport main site, fileplanet is blocked, and the other site dosent work...lol
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 26, 2007, 08:49:39 pm
Bittorrent (or d'l from Hades Combine) hip63's DVD from my siggy, install that, then rename "theport_v3" to "fsport", and you're set after you re-run Turey's Installer afterwards.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 26, 2007, 09:34:29 pm
will running hip63's installer reinstall all the files Turey's installer gave me? Because all I need is fsport and the campaigns for it
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 26, 2007, 09:59:28 pm
will running hip63's installer reinstall all the files Turey's installer gave me? Because all I need is fsport and the campaigns for it

Yes. However, you can use my FilePlanet ID. The password will last until Saturday:
[email protected]
fsportdl
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 27, 2007, 11:13:56 am
Thanks mate, but how will that help me dl fsport? Hip63's files are on filefront, and I dont feel like downloading 3 gigs of stuff when I only need the fsport =/
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 27, 2007, 11:18:58 am
...mmm.  I might be able to upload it later today...  Not sure if I still have the files.  Or I could just give you my fsport dir.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 27, 2007, 11:31:22 am
Is that the same thing?
Anyways, thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 27, 2007, 05:53:12 pm
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4W1QCZE4  401.46 MB, extracts to 676 MB.  Extract to \fsport\
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 27, 2007, 06:02:08 pm
Thanks so much, dling right now. Does this include the campaigns?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 27, 2007, 06:07:00 pm
I just 7-zipped my fsport dir & told it to make an SFX archive, in case you or someone else didn't have 7-zip... although you should.  :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 27, 2007, 06:16:56 pm
I have 7zip, the file im downloading is fsport.exe though. So it does include the campaigns right?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 27, 2007, 06:17:33 pm
Ya... even includes Awakenings, I think (not sure).  Anything that would be in your fsport directory is there.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Shootaz on July 27, 2007, 07:56:26 pm
thanks for taking the time to up it mate, now I can start playing   :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 28, 2007, 03:51:07 am
Np, enjoy.  :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on July 28, 2007, 08:43:48 am
I'm glad you finally got it. Look around the sites, theres more missions ad campaigns hiding in various places. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 29, 2007, 07:18:25 pm
and for the fsport main site, fileplanet is blocked

You can use my FilePlanet ID. The password will last until Saturday:
[email protected]
fsportdl

I was trying to help you get just those files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karateguy on July 31, 2007, 11:36:39 am
Hey!!!  Forgive me if this has already been addressed. I don't have tiime to read through all 34 pages.

I was having problems with the Retail version of FS2 for some reason (no idea, I've ran it on my system before...). Anyhoo, I downloaded the FS2 Open installer and the game played great. Only problem is, I didn't get any of the cutscenes. They are kinda vital to follow the story line, especially with Bosch's gambit. Is this normal or did I do something wrong?? Also, now that I've played the original campaign for the 100th time, I'd like to try some user campaigns. What are the best ones and where do I get/use them?? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on July 31, 2007, 12:32:36 pm
You should be running in OpenGL (Launcher, Graphics tab)

Many of the better user-made campaigns are included in the Installer. You can use them by selecting their folder on the mod tab of the launcher.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karateguy on July 31, 2007, 04:32:35 pm
Thanks. I am running OpenGL. I even tried going into the Tech rom and playing the cutscenes from there but it still didn't play them.

WRT the Mods, I tried using the tab at the top at selecting one ie; "Awakenings". When I select it and click "Okay, Run" it just starts the FS2 campaign from the last "Bastion" mission. It won't open the mod at all.

Maybe the problem is I installed the "Open" installer after I installed the retail game. Should I unistall the retail version and just download everything via the lancher??
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on July 31, 2007, 06:58:07 pm
The problem is that you must select the mod from the launcher (as you have done) AND select the campaign you wish to play from the campaign room in-game. Do that and your first problem should be over.

As for your second problem, do you have the FS2 CDs? Copy anything on disk 2 and 3 with the extension .mve into your main FS2 folder and run again. You should see the intro on startup now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on July 31, 2007, 07:01:09 pm
Is his problem that he doesn't have a decoder?  If so, then ffdshow from www.freecodec.com will fix him up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2007, 01:44:25 am
That would only occur if he was using the .avi cutscenes and AFAIK the installer never installed those. .mve and .ogg only.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 01, 2007, 01:45:33 am
:confused:  Windows comes with built-in .ogg video decoding support?  Or is it built into FSOpen?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2007, 01:54:13 am
It's built into Open.

The problems with missing decoders was due to the .avi code relying on using DirectShow for playing the movies. Which itself was due to us not finding a good, cross-platform .avi decoder with a suitable (i.e non GPL) open source licence and therefore having to rely on Windows to decode movies for us.

The fact that .ogg can be decoded in-game is the main reason we added support for the format.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karateguy on August 01, 2007, 11:30:38 am
The problem is that you must select the mod from the launcher (as you have done) AND select the campaign you wish to play from the campaign room in-game. Do that and your first problem should be over.

AHHHHH! Awesome, thanks.

As for your second problem, do you have the FS2 CDs? Copy anything on disk 2 and 3 with the extension .mve into your main FS2 folder and run again. You should see the intro on startup now.

Yes I have the original disks. I'll give it a try. Thanks again.  I'm in the middle of something else right now so it may be a few days before I respond again. Thanks again for all your help.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 05, 2007, 06:41:42 pm
OK I just downloaded the installer ( both versions) the zipped one for windows doesn't work, but the win/mac that requires java1.5 works fine, and is updating now.

I'm gonna try reinstalling winrar and see if that makes it work, I recently crossed over from winrar to 7zip ( 7zip is free btw)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 05, 2007, 06:49:58 pm
It's 7zip, I reinstalled winrar and the installer starts fine, time to send a log file to the 7zip folks :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on August 05, 2007, 08:52:06 pm
It's 7zip, I reinstalled winrar and the installer starts fine, time to send a log file to the 7zip folks :)

That's odd, because it's zipped with 7zip. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 06, 2007, 03:33:59 am
It's 7zip, I reinstalled winrar and the installer starts fine, time to send a log file to the 7zip folks :)

You do have the latest version, right?  4.42 stable, or 4.52 beta?  The correct version (32-bit or x64?)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 06, 2007, 03:57:45 pm
Well turey I'm at a loss on this one, if 7-zip ziped it then it has to be a problem on my machine. I'll have a look and see whats up.

JR I download the latest and greatest that turey uploads every time he updates the installer
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 06, 2007, 07:59:55 pm
EH??  Turey doesn't include the 7-zip program in his Installer... what do you mean.  I"m not talking about the file, I'm talking about the program used to decode the file.  You might have an older version of 7-zip that has a bug in it or something.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 07, 2007, 03:44:53 pm
If thats the case then  7zip really needs to update their website cause the 7zip I tried to open the installer with was Just downloaded from their site and installed last Monday.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 07, 2007, 07:54:06 pm
OK, here, you get the zip file in 7-zip, select all the files, and click the "extract" button, and select a location.  It doesn't auto-select all the files for you like WinRAR does.  The easiest way to extract is to right-click the zip file, go to 7-zip>Extract files... and pick a location.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 07, 2007, 09:18:47 pm
Tried that, I tried extracting to a specific folder, extracting to the host folder, and running from the host folder, its gotta be a vista issue, every other problem I have is vista related.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 08, 2007, 02:08:38 am
Hmm.  Did you tell it to allow when it brought up the permission windows?  Or did you shut them off?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 08, 2007, 03:13:05 pm
I don't get the permission problem tat vista has :) that is teh first thing  disabled and uninstalled when I first turned this thing on.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Dark RevenantX on August 13, 2007, 10:37:55 pm
Heh, I must have gotten REAL lucky, because on my right-click there is at least 5 extraction engines ready to use.  I happened to pick 7-zip and do Extract Here (or whatever it says for extracting to the current location).  Freespace 2 is working completly fine for me; great job with that installer!

However, there is a very annoying bug in which Freespace doesn't put the targeting boxes, suns, and subspace nodes in the correct place!  This is most definitely caused by my widescreen 1900x1200 LCD.  Is there any way to fix this?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 14, 2007, 03:05:35 am
Erm... run in 1024x768  :( It's a bug.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on August 14, 2007, 04:27:14 pm
Must be nice to be able to run 1900X1200, I have a standard monitor made by Dell in 2001 and anything above 1012X768 at 72 hrz refresh rate drives this thing crazy.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jinnigan on August 14, 2007, 11:29:34 pm
So I downloaded the exe installer, and when I hit "next" after the window where it asks me if I want "Yes to all," it's stuck at 0% and doesn't move.


....halp?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 15, 2007, 03:33:23 am
Great... Um, use the walkthrough in my siggy to get the Java version.  IDK, that's what I use...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jinnigan on August 15, 2007, 10:46:30 am
That's the thing - I'll get to this screen:

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25645949aq8.jpg

hit next, and then the next screen will just stay blank (no text), be stuck at 0%, and the "Next" button will stay grey. Nothing comes up in the installer, even though in the command window I can see the big list of options.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on August 15, 2007, 12:52:24 pm
Try it again, I think it's fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 15, 2007, 08:08:21 pm
What Java executable do I use for the .jar installer?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on August 16, 2007, 01:54:53 am
Hmm, I have this walkthrough in my siggy... :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 16, 2007, 08:59:38 am
What are "FreeSpace2 Tech Animations"? Are they the animations for the weapons and species etc in the tech room?

EDIT: And do you need the multiplayer missions to play multi, or only to host?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on August 16, 2007, 09:09:46 pm
What are "FreeSpace2 Tech Animations"? Are they the animations for the weapons and species etc in the tech room?

Yes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on August 18, 2007, 06:08:41 pm
EDIT: And do you need the multiplayer missions to play multi, or only to host?

You need them only to host as they'll be Xfered to you if you don't have them when simply playing.

However without the VP you won't have any of the voice acting and you'll probably annoy the other players while they sit around waiting for you to get the mission.

Annoying people just before the start of a multiplayer mission is generally considered to be a bad idea. :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 04, 2007, 12:05:09 am
Installer updated, changelog to follow.

Added LOCAL and UNZIP commands. Neither of them are likely to be useful to the Installer as-is, but the TC-rebranded versions (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/tchelp.html) will benefit immensely.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 04, 2007, 07:23:52 am
Good work once again Turey! :yes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HashBox on September 04, 2007, 02:10:42 pm
Whenever I run the installer I'm getting these errors:

Download Mirror 1 (http://blah) has failed.
All Download Mirrors have failed.

This comes up for nearly all the files, if it helps I can try and make a list of files that fail but its pretty much all.
Im unsure what to do, I've made sure I have the latest version of the installer but I still have problems.

Any solutions? and I know this is a pretty sad first post but im new to both Freespace and this forum, nice meeting you all =)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 04, 2007, 02:36:35 pm
The only thing to do right now is to wait for Turey, the Installer dude. I'd help you if I could, but this is quite out of my league.

Nevertheless
:welcomeblue:

Edit: Or wait, the Installer might be down if Turey's uploading new stuff. Do try again, see if that works.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on September 04, 2007, 02:51:21 pm
Even if you can't help, it would be nice if you didn't sound like a complete ass.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 04, 2007, 02:53:23 pm
Explain.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HashBox on September 04, 2007, 03:17:54 pm
Hmmm actually I think this may be a fault at my end, some how I'm completely out of disk space :P thats probably why, well I'll free up some and try again, if I have any further issues I'll post again, thanks for the replies =)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on September 04, 2007, 04:17:56 pm
Yea I lack of disk space isn't a good thing when downloading anything. Also make sure whatever ports needed are open, and if theres any permissions required, you give them, I know for a fact if your running AD ware SE turn it off the auto protect WILL find the installer as a spyware.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 04, 2007, 04:27:48 pm
Even though I can't help, it would be nice if I didn't sound like a complete ass.

Fixx0red.  Don't be a n00b.

To free up disk space: Crap Cleaner (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4191) and DustBuster (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=1182) from MajorGeeks (http://www.majorgeeks.com); DustBuster requires MS .NET Framework, which is most likely already in your system.  DustBuster is in another language, but you don't have to do anything other than run it, so that's OK.  Now, if you want to know how much space DustBuster freed up, you will have to watch it, because when it is done, it will display how much space was reclaimed for about 5 seconds and then automatically exit.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on September 04, 2007, 04:36:33 pm
Hey thanks jr2 :) I thought I'd never see those programs again, I've been running ghost surf's privacy cleaner, cause I couldn't find Major Geeks :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 04, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
...couldn't find Major Geeks??? search Google?  type in: major geeks homepage :confused:  ...or is there a problem I didn't know about? :nervous:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on September 04, 2007, 04:51:13 pm
No problems here JR2 LOL, just with teh hours I work I never thought that Google is still my friend.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HashBox on September 04, 2007, 10:03:26 pm
Does anyone know how big the install is with the default options ticked? I have about 2.5gb of free space..
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 04, 2007, 10:58:27 pm
Does anyone know how big the install is with the default options ticked? I have about 2.5gb of free space..

Everthing selected is far too big. You should be able to get away with just Retail and the FreeSpace Open Exes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HashBox on September 04, 2007, 11:03:13 pm
Thanks man =)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 05, 2007, 02:16:54 am
Is it a matter of repartitioning?  If so, I know of a good free program you can use.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on September 05, 2007, 05:09:51 am
Even if you can't help, it would be nice if you didn't sound like a complete ass.

You have a single post to explain to me why I shouldn't give you a weeks ban for that unnecessary and frankly completely unwarranted bit of flaming.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 06, 2007, 07:51:03 pm
I can't even figure out who or what he's referring to.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lenard27 on September 09, 2007, 11:11:26 am
I just downloaded the installer and when I try to run it, it says the application failed to start because OpenAL32.dll was not found.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on September 09, 2007, 11:20:58 am
Download OpenAL. You should be able to find it in The FAQTM :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 09, 2007, 11:23:09 am
People, people. Please search the forums. There's n number of topics (n>20) about the openal issue. Including one that's stickied. Just go to www.openal.org.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lenard27 on September 09, 2007, 11:23:34 am
Yeah, I just figured that out. I should probably poke around for myself when I have problems rather than just ask for help. Especially when the solution is kinda obvious

EDIT: I'm gonna go ahead and blame this one on my hangover. I love college!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 09, 2007, 11:32:47 am
Ah yes, that explains it. Drinking rocks. Well, apart from the hangover thing. Though I don't actually get hangovers. I just have to puke before I go to bed, and then I'm all bright-eyes the next morning.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cloudburst on September 18, 2007, 07:27:48 am
Ok here's the deal. I already had FS2 installed so I ticked off the core items in the installer.

First I got the OpenAL error, but fixed it.

First question:

What exe should I use? There's like 7 of them? I'm guessing fs2_open_3_6_9.exe? (that's what I've used)

Second:

Now I get this error:

"Error initializing graphics: Can't understand 'VideocardFs2open' registry entry!"

Then it asks me to run fs2_open launcher (which one is that?) or download the latest launcher (link does not work).


edit nvm: I must be blind. I didn't see Launcher.exe  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 18, 2007, 08:37:41 am
:welcomered:

fs2_open_3_6_9.exe is indeed a good choice and you are required to run the Launcher to set up your basic options so that you can run the game. Good that you've solved everything so far. In other emergencies, do search the forums for similar issues. If that doesn't help, feel free to ask.

Also, the latest launcher is 5.5c. I had it, but lost it during a complete XP reinstall (silly me, didn't make a backup). I'll try to find the download site and post a link here.

Edit: OK, here (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/Launcher55c.rar) we go.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cloudburst on September 18, 2007, 09:15:28 am
I got it working after I found the launcher so it works fine now, thanks anyway.  :yes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on September 19, 2007, 08:20:53 pm
NOTICE:

Due t' lack o' bandwidth, I'm droppin' th' files fer th' retail installation, an' Derelict, until th' next billin' cycle.
 
3 TERAbytes, people, to be sure!
 
Oy!

Seeya when I get some more bandwidth :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer, by Blackbeard's sword! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 19, 2007, 09:15:06 pm
NOTICE:

Due t' lack o' bandwidth, I'm droppin' th' files fer th' retail installation, an' Derelict, until th' next billin' cycle.
 
3 TERAbytes, people, t' be sure!
 
Oy!

Seeya when I get some more bandwidth :D

K, pulled.

EDIT: Some statistics. Please note the time span. I'm not sure what happened to the logs after July 11th. I'll ask Hunter.
Code: [Select]
Hits between Dec. 7, 2006 and July 11, 2007

Total Hits File

2940 /files/installer/FreeSpaceOpensetup.exe
2877 /files/installer/filenames.txt
3205 /files/installer/version.txt
1971 /files/installer/UpdateFreeSpaceOpen.exe
1128 /files/installer/update_version.txt
6088 /files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar
45449 /files/installer/java/core_files.txt
45806 /files/installer/java/filenames.txt
49941 /files/installer/java/version.txt
804 /files/installer/java/javautilities/javautilities.exe
364 /files/installer/java/FreeSpaceOpenUpdater.jar
850 /files/installer/java/update_version.txt
58569 /files/installer/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip

Grand totals:
Total number of downloads of NSIS version: 2940
Total number of downloads of Java version: 64657
Total number of downloads of both versions: 67597
Average downloads/day: 321.89

Total number of executions of NSIS version: 4333
Total number of executions of Java version: 50791
Total number of executions of both versions: 55124
Average executions/day: 262.5

Percent of Java downloads that were the .exe version: 90% (Interestingly close to Microsoft's share of the OS market...)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 19, 2007, 11:06:35 pm
Ah, that's what happened. SA (Yes THE SA) seems to have taken a liking to FSO. If anyone here happens to have an SA account could you post this link (http://www.fsoinstaller.com/sanote.html) for me on the following threads?
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2612076
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2613848
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2612827
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2614021

EDIT: Some other interesting referring sites:
Chinese site (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fezdiypc.com%2Fdiscuz%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D58%26extra%3Dpage%253D1%26page%3D1&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Japanese site (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstardogs.netgamers.jp%2Findex.php%3FFreeSpace%2520Series%2FFreeSpace%25202%2FFreeSpace%25202%2520SCP&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Shiver me timbers! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 20, 2007, 02:57:01 am
I like this one better!  :D

A note to the members of Something Awful Forums
Hello, my name is Turey, and I wrote the FreeSpace Open Installer. All of you at Something Awful seem to have taken quite an interest in both FreeSpace Open and my Installer. I'm always glad to see more people become interested in FreeSpace Open, but the addition of the SA traffic to the normal traffic has caused a problem for one of the file hosts that the Installer relies on. As such, the retail files and the Derelict mod campaign have been temporarily removed from the Installer.

I understand that this is inconvenient, but it has to be done. In the meantime, here's an alternative method of downloading. If you download the HotU Version, then run my Installer on top of it, it should result in an almost identical install to what you would have gotten with the retail files in my Installer. If you're looking for Derelict, you can get it from Hades-Combine.

Thank you for your cooperation, and I hope you enjoy playing FreeSpace Open.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 20, 2007, 01:02:39 pm
Am I right in guessing that the recent influx of newbs (I made 5 welcomes the other day) is coming from Something Awful?

The thread title is still messed up.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Gunteen6 on September 20, 2007, 03:33:29 pm
aww man! now i can't get the retail files, i got a few friends who want this game, and now the retail files aren't there, so they STILL can't play...
is there another location where we can fetch the retail files?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 20, 2007, 03:37:12 pm
Hotu's FreeSpace 2 entry (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=4150). Full 1.2 retail FS2, minus the cutscenes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on September 20, 2007, 05:03:26 pm
Sowwy :D

But, if my hosting goes down hard, instead of at my self-imposed cutoff, bad t'ings will happen.  Then, I won't be hosting them, period :/

So, give it another day, and I should have bandwidth again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on September 21, 2007, 10:50:00 pm
Bandwidth is back.

Turey, turn 'em back on.

Y'all - if you HAVE the retail files already, PLEASE do not download them.  I don't have unlimited bandwidth, so use wisely, please :D

I have a LOT - but even that isn't unlimited :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 21, 2007, 10:58:29 pm
Y'all - if you HAVE the retail files already, PLEASE do not download them.  I don't have unlimited bandwidth, so use wisely, please :D

I have a LOT - but even that isn't unlimited :D

... Which is one of the reasons I made my walkthrough!  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 22, 2007, 05:03:18 am
Bandwidth is back.

Turey, turn 'em back on.

Y'all - if you HAVE the retail files already, PLEASE do not download them.  I don't have unlimited bandwidth, so use wisely, please :D

I have a LOT - but even that isn't unlimited :D

If they run it over a retail install, it should use almost none of your bandwidth. Anyway, back on.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on September 22, 2007, 07:28:38 am
Yeah - but, that doesn't mean they've installed their discs first :D  It's often easier to just download it all, y'know?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on September 22, 2007, 05:47:17 pm
Yep. We've continually had people giving bad advice about installing the whole thing from your server even when people have the disks or have already downloaded HotU.

Not to mention people suggesting a reinstall when the problems are very minor.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 24, 2007, 08:13:49 pm
Installer now includes Linux executables (both 32 and 64 bit) and unpacks them correctly with permissions. Note that the unpacking only works on Mac and Linux. Windows will just download the containing file and do nothing with it.

EDIT: Also, support for tar.gz and tar.bz2 files has been added, but only on Mac and Linux.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lobisomem on September 29, 2007, 12:18:33 pm
Hi friends!
First of all, i want to send my greetings for turey because he´s work make our life and playing easier!
That´s my second time making my install from turey installer, but i haven´t been as sucessful as i have been in the first time.
I´ve enough space in disk (more than 8 Gb), and i usually disable my firewall and antivirus for downloading something from secure channels, so i believe that what is happening doesn´t have nothing to do with my conection.
I´m doing as i have done in the first time, unzipping everything and installing it in an apropriate place in my disk.
However, something happen dudring the installation and the program simply stop doing the download!
It still have its progress bar on working or donwloading with some % of one of the archives, however, it don´t do anything more.
I checked and the program still being viewed as working in the windows (it ´s not non responding).
Today complete 24 hrs that i just left my pc turned on for downloading the game, but it still in the same place that it was something aroun 20 hrs ago.

It´s not possivble to copy and paste from the installation progress place, so.....
Once more, thanks to all.
See ya.

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 29, 2007, 01:11:50 pm
Hi friends!
First of all, i want to send my greetings for turey because he´s work make our life and playing easier!
That´s my second time making my install from turey installer, but i haven´t been as sucessful as i have been in the first time.
I´ve enough space in disk (more than 8 Gb), and i usually disable my firewall and antivirus for downloading something from secure channels, so i believe that what is happening doesn´t have nothing to do with my conection.
I´m doing as i have done in the first time, unzipping everything and installing it in an apropriate place in my disk.
However, something happen dudring the installation and the program simply stop doing the download!
It still have its progress bar on working or donwloading with some % of one of the archives, however, it don´t do anything more.
I checked and the program still being viewed as working in the windows (it ´s not non responding).
Today complete 24 hrs that i just left my pc turned on for downloading the game, but it still in the same place that it was something aroun 20 hrs ago.

It´s not possivble to copy and paste from the installation progress place, so.....
Once more, thanks to all.
See ya.



If you kill the Installer and start it again, it'll resume from close to where it was.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: lobisomem on September 29, 2007, 09:27:46 pm
Hi friends!
First of all, i want to send my greetings for turey because he´s work make our life and playing easier!
That´s my second time making my install from turey installer, but i haven´t been as sucessful as i have been in the first time.
I´ve enough space in disk (more than 8 Gb), and i usually disable my firewall and antivirus for downloading something from secure channels, so i believe that what is happening doesn´t have nothing to do with my conection.
I´m doing as i have done in the first time, unzipping everything and installing it in an apropriate place in my disk.
However, something happen dudring the installation and the program simply stop doing the download!
It still have its progress bar on working or donwloading with some % of one of the archives, however, it don´t do anything more.
I checked and the program still being viewed as working in the windows (it ´s not non responding).
Today complete 24 hrs that i just left my pc turned on for downloading the game, but it still in the same place that it was something aroun 20 hrs ago.

It´s not possivble to copy and paste from the installation progress place, so.....
Once more, thanks to all.
See ya.



If you kill the Installer and start it again, it'll resume from close to where it was.

Thanks, it look like working now.
See ya.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 30, 2007, 01:05:02 am
@Turey: maybe make the Installer sense if a file has had no connectivity within an hour, and have it auto-restart with the same options as the first time it was run?  That's help, as I had to have someone else do the same thing with his Install.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 30, 2007, 02:32:27 am
@Turey: maybe make the Installer sense if a file has had no connectivity within an hour, and have it auto-restart with the same options as the first time it was run?  That's help, as I had to have someone else do the same thing with his Install.

It should detect timeouts and skip files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on September 30, 2007, 03:16:01 am
...Then, for some reason, it's hanging.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 30, 2007, 03:29:17 pm
It's done that to me a few times.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 06, 2007, 07:48:20 pm
turey I gotta do the installer thing all over again, I lost teh hard drive again and just got done reloading it.

Just a note for anybody using vista, don't up date and realtek drivers through windows update. Or else a week later you will be downloading Tureys installer all over again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 16, 2007, 12:48:25 pm
FreeSpace Open Installer: Celebrating One Year of Serving the Community.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on October 16, 2007, 01:05:30 pm
*Claps loudly*

Congrats Turey! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 17, 2007, 07:51:54 pm
One year of perfection, thank you again turey for being a genius.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on October 17, 2007, 09:13:40 pm
Eh.... not quite perfection... but practice.  And we know what practice makes.  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on October 17, 2007, 09:52:49 pm
Eh.... not quite perfection... but practice.  And we know what practice makes.  ;)

Babies?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 17, 2007, 09:57:37 pm
If thats the case then I should have more kids than turey has updates :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: RazorsKiss on October 17, 2007, 11:48:12 pm
I might have that many.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 18, 2007, 08:49:11 pm
Thats scary man, I only have 2 living here and one in the Navy
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Roflcore on October 27, 2007, 08:40:10 am
Can somebody tell me why my download is so slow? I have more then enough bandwith, and still it won't load fast. I downloaded yesterday almost the entire day, and today since 11 a clock. right now im at "sparky_hi_fs2.vp" and it feels like 2kb/sec..what am I doing wrong? No firewall or stuff like that, everything else works perfect.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 27, 2007, 03:27:46 pm
Can somebody tell me why my download is so slow? I have more then enough bandwith, and still it won't load fast. I downloaded yesterday almost the entire day, and today since 11 a clock. right now im at "sparky_hi_fs2.vp" and it feels like 2kb/sec..what am I doing wrong? No firewall or stuff like that, everything else works perfect.

could just be server load.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 27, 2007, 04:26:28 pm
Can somebody tell me why my download is so slow? I have more then enough bandwith, and still it won't load fast. I downloaded yesterday almost the entire day, and today since 11 a clock. right now im at "sparky_hi_fs2.vp" and it feels like 2kb/sec..what am I doing wrong? No firewall or stuff like that, everything else works perfect.

What time of day are you trying to download? I found that anytime between 2100 and 2400 EST is the best time to download anything since most of the US is asleep and the rest are still at work, making the net a little faster.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 30, 2007, 06:40:43 pm
Corrupted smarty_fs2.vp has been fixed, and backup mirrors have been added for all retail files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 31, 2007, 07:11:08 pm
Hwy Turey, what if I installed FS2 retail from my FS2 disk and then run the installer you make and have install all checked, that won't mess up my universe will it ?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 31, 2007, 08:58:18 pm
Hwy Turey, what if I installed FS2 retail from my FS2 disk and then run the installer you make and have install all checked, that won't mess up my universe will it ?

nope.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 01, 2007, 01:09:04 pm
Turey, I've found a problem you may want to fix. After install is completed, the page is scrolled all the way down, so no one sees the install notes.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on November 01, 2007, 01:27:49 pm
Turey, I've found a problem you may want to fix. After install is completed, the page is scrolled all the way down, so no one sees the install notes.

Yeah, it's on my to-do list.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on November 01, 2007, 06:11:58 pm
Hwy Turey, what if I installed FS2 retail from my FS2 disk and then run the installer you make and have install all checked, that won't mess up my universe will it ?

nope.

whew thanks that made me feel better :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on November 02, 2007, 02:51:09 am
wolfen,

In my walkthrough I actually instruct people to install Retail first, to save time and bandwidth... what you did is quite logical, since FSOpen is Retail-compatible (or at least not conflicting with it).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on November 02, 2007, 03:41:35 pm
I'm just glad that somebody in this world makes something compatible with windows vista, God knows I've had nothing but problems with this thing till finally figured out that anything downloaded from M/S updates site thats not  M/S will totally screw up vista.
Hell my HP printer doesn't even work with their vista driver, I have to use windows to make that work, and scanning is a real fun time using windows photo gallery every time.
Its nice to know FS, and FS2 will install and tureys update and installer works with this quagmire of a operating sysytem
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Ghost on November 04, 2007, 10:47:57 am
Hey Turey: the installer's download link for the FS1 cutscenes doesn't work.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on November 04, 2007, 02:31:15 pm
Hey Turey: the installer's download link for the FS1 cutscenes doesn't work.

PM sent to Goober, he'll get it fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dragonfi on November 17, 2007, 10:53:52 am
Hello, I played much with this game and I was happy when I seen that it became open , bad I cannot find it earlyer, althoug I have some problem , the installer cannot get the FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp, is there any way to download and appy it manually?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 17, 2007, 10:58:27 am
:welcomered:

Try this (http://www.fszmirror.com/files/fsport/FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp). Place the file to your \freespace\fsport\ folder.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dragonfi on November 17, 2007, 05:23:09 pm
Strange I thought I downloaded it from the same place, and put  it on the same directory, anyway I downloaded it again and now it's working.
Thank you for the welcoming and for helping me, now I can enjoy the FS1 campaign in it's full glory.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 17, 2007, 05:34:09 pm
Don't mention it. But there are a few things before you can truly enjoy FSPort. Click the Useful Stuff link on my signature and download a couple of HTL ships and a fixed training mission from there. The instructions for dealing with the files are on that same page.

Edit: Oh, and the Enhanced Weapon Effects table file, so that the weapons use the effects from the mediavps instead of the retail ones.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: caibrenden on November 23, 2007, 10:22:13 pm
im worried about this message in the java installer....
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The File mv_core.vp is out of date.
Starting Download and Extraction of: D:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\mv_core.vp
Download Mirror 1 (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/) has failed.
All Download Mirrors have failed.
Finished with Zip File: mv_core.zip
Checking: mv_effects.zip
Checking: mv_effects.vp
Current File Size: 0
New File Size: 93891138
The File mv_effects.vp is out of date.
Starting Download and Extraction of: D:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp
Download Mirror 1 (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/mvp368zeta/) has failed.
All Download Mirrors have failed.
Finished with Zip File: mv_effects.zip
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on November 24, 2007, 01:40:58 am
Did you look for the file?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: caibrenden on November 25, 2007, 02:19:17 am
opss  :lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 26, 2007, 11:42:20 am
Turey, there is a problem with both this and the BtRL updater. Some of the files (one or two of the VPs in the FSO version; the .EXEs in the BtRL version) are slightly larger or smaller (a few bytes, possibly caused by a different compression method or file transfer on the server. Anyway, this small change in size causes the file (in some cases 150+ Mbs) to be downloaded again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on November 26, 2007, 02:04:03 pm
The .exes are smaller or larger depending on the changes to their code. :wtf:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 26, 2007, 03:30:41 pm
But the BtRL .EXEs haven't been changed, and neither have the FS2 core VPs.  The final .EXEs don't change.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 26, 2007, 03:51:42 pm
The BtRL exes changed when we patched the game.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 26, 2007, 04:20:21 pm
Must've been small changes, the difference was only bytes for each of them.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 26, 2007, 04:31:08 pm
Why would you expect code changes to result in large changes in size?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 26, 2007, 05:57:15 pm
Any reason why 3.6.10 doesn't have Text-to-Speech?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 26, 2007, 06:39:40 pm
Because it's only an unofficial build.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 26, 2007, 09:22:15 pm
Official Build Expected When?

JAD3 is funnier when you don't have to dodge Shivans and read at the same time.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 27, 2007, 03:35:28 am
Because it's only an unofficial build.

That's not quite the reason.

All official builds have speech compiled in. Beyond that it's up to the individual coder. For instance my builds always have speech compiled in cause I use the feature heavily when testing missions.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 27, 2007, 01:20:31 pm
Oops. Sorry Spartan.When I looked at your first post I thought you said "Speech recognition". No, text-to-speech is a standard feature, has been from at least 3.6.7 IIRC. Hence, since the RC builds are built on the previous version of the SCP, it should be in 3.6.10 unofficial.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2007, 01:23:13 pm
Uh, dude? 3.6.10 is both official and unofficial. When they announce a 3.6.10 release, it's official. Consider the latest builds we have right now (Xt builds) 3.6.10 alphas or betas.

Also, did you read karajorma's post?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 27, 2007, 01:31:18 pm
But the 3.6.10 builds just add on to 3.6.9. If text-to-voice is in 3.6.9, why would they remove it in any build?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 27, 2007, 01:45:19 pm
Both speech recognition and speech synthesis are Windows only features requiring the presence of Microsoft's SAPI on the coders machine. The project files must be set up to build using SAPI or the exe must be compiled with the switches to allow both features turned off.

Taylor always turns on the feature for official builds but doesn't bother with any others. I always have it turned on since rather than manually set up new project files when I want a new branch I just diff an old one with WinMerge and that makes it less hassle keep them turned on than it would be to turn them off again.

Other coders may or may not depending on whatever they were doing.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 27, 2007, 05:35:04 pm
So, any downloads I can get to enable text-to-speech? I'm not seeing it in the launcher.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 27, 2007, 05:39:15 pm
Why do you want 3.6.10 anyway? Unless you've got a showstopper bug with 3.6.9 or are willing to help beta test you're probably better sticking with 3.6.9.

If you are willing to test you can try this build (http://www.freespacefaq.com/Misc-Downloads/Builds/FS2_Open_3.6.10_Branch_Change_Persona.7z) of mine if you want. You'll need 7Zip or equivalent to unpack it though. It's based on CVS so it won't have the extras of a xt build.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2007, 05:48:11 pm
Persona changes? What kinds?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 27, 2007, 05:53:02 pm
An experimental SEXP to let you change them on the fly and another one to let you determine who has done damage to whom. Neither are guaranteed to be in 3.6.10 (or 3.6.11 for that matter) so don't get too attached to them.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Cobra on November 27, 2007, 05:56:14 pm
Sounds like a good idea for ships with copilots though.
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Post by: spartan_0214 on November 27, 2007, 06:11:51 pm
Why do you want 3.6.10 anyway? Unless you've got a showstopper bug with 3.6.9 or are willing to help beta test you're probably better sticking with 3.6.9.

If you are willing to test you can try this build (http://www.freespacefaq.com/Misc-Downloads/Builds/FS2_Open_3.6.10_Branch_Change_Persona.7z) of mine if you want. You'll need 7Zip or equivalent to unpack it though. It's based on CVS so it won't have the extras of a xt build.

Didn't mean to get it, just grabbed Turey's Installer and it installed 3.6.10. I needed it after I had to reinstall FreeSpace 2.... :ick:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 27, 2007, 06:16:28 pm
An experimental SEXP to let you change them on the fly and another one to let you determine who has done damage to whom. Neither are guaranteed to be in 3.6.10 (or 3.6.11 for that matter) so don't get too attached to them.
To determine who has done damage to whom? How is it displayed?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on November 27, 2007, 10:58:06 pm
Didn't mean to get it, just grabbed Turey's Installer and it installed 3.6.10. I needed it after I had to reinstall FreeSpace 2.... :ick:

Easy... just select the 3.6.9 in the Launcher, instead of 3.6.10  Turey's installs both.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on November 28, 2007, 04:30:58 am
An experimental SEXP to let you change them on the fly and another one to let you determine who has done damage to whom. Neither are guaranteed to be in 3.6.10 (or 3.6.11 for that matter) so don't get too attached to them.
To determine who has done damage to whom? How is it displayed?

It's just a SEXP. It reports the damage that ship A has done to ship B as a percentage. How you use that number is then up to you.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: nodikus on December 02, 2007, 09:53:15 pm
Hello, I'm currently having a problem with the Fs1 port in this installer, It has been playing fine but it won't display interceptor missles. They're not loaded in the training mission that introduces them and not availiable for loading in the following mission. The techlab displays 'interceptor#weak" with no furthure data. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on December 03, 2007, 01:22:58 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47293.msg962994.html#msg962994

:welcomeorange:

nodikus!
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Post by: nodikus on December 03, 2007, 04:10:11 pm
Thanks, that helps. I feel stupid that I couln't find that thread.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on December 03, 2007, 06:47:44 pm
Don't. You're not the worst I've seen, most n00bs don't look. (yes, I know that you're not a n00b, just a lurker)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: AlphaOne on December 11, 2007, 11:33:06 am
oki guis something is wrong im tryng to get FS with the media vp and all basicly get the installer to work but the speed is horrific! I have broadband but i dont get over 35kb no matter what i try to do!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on December 11, 2007, 01:49:51 pm
You have any torrents running? Any other internet related stuff? Do a SpeedTest].

EDIT: URL links seem to be broken:
 (speedtest.net)
Code: [Select]
[url=speedtest.net]SpeedTest]. produces the end of the sentence above.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: AlphaOne on December 11, 2007, 03:14:25 pm
also will FS work with windows vista ultimate?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 11, 2007, 03:21:31 pm
Try 'n see.
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Post by: AlphaOne on December 11, 2007, 03:37:06 pm
thats a lot of help! Im only asking cuz im unsure it will work cuz it acted up a bit on XP but i managed to get it working in about 30 seconds! now i have no idea how to turn on all those wonderfull juicy effects that the HLP developement team put in the FS_Open engine!  :( Im sorry i should know all of this in my dreams by now but......im sorry again i have no excuse! :(
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 11, 2007, 03:50:28 pm
Umm... select mediavps as mod from the Launcher's MOD tab? Select the Features tab and tick at least Enable specular, Enable glowmaps and Enable environment maps? Enter -ambient_factor 00 -spec_exp 11 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 0.0 -spec_tube 0.5 -no_emissive_light -ogl_spec 30 to the Custom flags field? Or were you talking about something completely different?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 11, 2007, 05:41:40 pm
Thanks, that helps. I feel stupid that I couln't find that thread.

Don't feel stupid, I had trouble installing every thing before turey's installer, I had so many redirects on here that I think I was about to have my own page :)
I was probably the worst.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on December 11, 2007, 05:52:03 pm
WildRoseWolf, HaloBuff, and Locutus Of Borg would certainly give you a run for your money.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 11, 2007, 07:57:58 pm
WOW, I'd hate to think that in todays world there are still people with a IQ as low as mine still around

(btw IQ is average)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on December 11, 2007, 10:45:07 pm
You have any torrents running? Any other internet related stuff? Do a SpeedTest].

EDIT: URL links seem to be broken:
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Post by: AlphaOne on December 13, 2007, 06:56:24 am
well sad to say FS open wont work with MY Windows vista! Whenever i wan to play the game or a mod the game crashes or freezes of my vid card forzes up and i get a wierd message from windows sayng that the game caused the vic cards drivers to crash or caused the cid card to froze up! :( I have Vista ultimate 2 gb of ram and intel core 2 duo and a 8500GT 512 mb from asus ! :( Anyone got any ideas what is wrong?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 13, 2007, 01:19:47 pm
Update your drivers.
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Post by: wolfen on December 13, 2007, 03:31:08 pm
well sad to say FS open wont work with MY Windows vista! Whenever i wan to play the game or a mod the game crashes or freezes of my vid card forzes up and i get a wierd message from windows sayng that the game caused the vic cards drivers to crash or caused the cid card to froze up! :( I have Vista ultimate 2 gb of ram and intel core 2 duo and a 8500GT 512 mb from asus ! :( Anyone got any ideas what is wrong?
Yea alpha I know exactly whats wrong, you have windows vista, I can say this because I had vista on this computer and FS froze stalled ctd'd and sometimes I had to unplug the computer to make it stop, I solved teh problem with $187 at Office depot with a new copy of windows XP, I upgraded from vista to XP (yes upgraded, I can explain if you want) and every gaming problem went away, and you can get XP on the Internet for as low as $98 usd.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 13, 2007, 03:36:42 pm
Yea alpha I know exactly whats wrong, you have windows vista, I can say this because I had vista on this computer and FS froze stalled ctd'd and sometimes I had to unplug the computer to make it stop
That's one way. I deduced that he had Vista since he explicitly said so himself.

Quote from: AlphaOne
well sad to say FS open wont work with MY Windows vista!
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Post by: jr2 on December 13, 2007, 05:05:57 pm
Downgrading (http://middleearthmedia.com/Giving%20up%20on%20Vista%20Heres%20how%20to%20downgrade%20to%20XP.pdf) (PDF)
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Post by: wolfen on December 13, 2007, 06:53:08 pm
Yea alpha I know exactly whats wrong, you have windows vista, I can say this because I had vista on this computer and FS froze stalled ctd'd and sometimes I had to unplug the computer to make it stop
That's one way. I deduced that he had Vista since he explicitly said so himself.

Quote from: AlphaOne
well sad to say FS open wont work with MY Windows vista!

Well thats one way to deduce the problem.
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Post by: wolfen on December 13, 2007, 06:56:32 pm
Downgrading (http://middleearthmedia.com/Giving%20up%20on%20Vista%20Heres%20how%20to%20downgrade%20to%20XP.pdf) (PDF)

I still say going from Vista to XP is an upgrade, I don't know too much about the ultimate vista (also don't believe there really is one) but the only way to get home basic or premium of the computer is to completely slick the hard drive
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Post by: AlphaOne on December 14, 2007, 03:46:57 am
WEll i do have Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit version! Now a friend o mine said that my current version is a piece of crap since from what he said windows Vista Ultimate is not exactly ultimate and with some minor fixes here and there everithing can be solved ! I believe he has a more updated version and i asked him to lend it to me in order to try and see if his works!  If it does then all i can do is send him my Vista and get his! since i have no idea how to tweak it and stuff! But he can do that with my "raw" copy!

Anyway from what i can figure out gooing to Xp Profesional 64 bit version especialy with the latest service pack is the best solution for a few years anyway! The thing is i wanted vista cuz Halo 2 wont work on anithing other then vista or rather that is what i heard!
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 14, 2007, 01:27:43 pm
Didn't hip63 get Vista Ultiamte-64 to work?
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Post by: Samapico on December 14, 2007, 02:23:15 pm
I'm currently downloading stuff with the installer...

But I'm getting "The File <filename> is out of date." for about every file, should I be worried?

Also, it would be nice if the size of each element was shown where you check stuff. Or if it's there already I didn't see it ô.o. Even an approximation of ±10MB would be nice. Especially since the progress doesn't show overall progress, but the progress on each file... So I have no idea if this will be done in 2 minutes, or 2 days :P. Luckily I unchecked the retail files as I already have them, I can imagine it taking a long while to download everything that was on that list...



That spell check button is nice ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 14, 2007, 02:34:40 pm
But I'm getting "The File <filename> is out of date." for about every file, should I be worried?
Guess you have a lot of files that are outdated, and the Installer therefore downloads newer versions. You decide whether that is right or wrong.
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Post by: Samapico on December 14, 2007, 02:36:23 pm
But I'm getting "The File <filename> is out of date." for about every file, should I be worried?
Guess you have a lot of files that are outdated, and the Installer therefore downloads newer versions. You decide whether that is right or wrong.
Oh, I thought it was the file that it downloaded that was outdated... ok makes sense. Actually I didn't have any of the FSO files, I guess no files is considered outdated :P
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Post by: wolfen on December 14, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
WEll i do have Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit version! Now a friend o mine said that my current version is a piece of crap since from what he said windows Vista Ultimate is not exactly ultimate and with some minor fixes here and there everithing can be solved ! I believe he has a more updated version and i asked him to lend it to me in order to try and see if his works!  If it does then all i can do is send him my Vista and get his! since i have no idea how to tweak it and stuff! But he can do that with my "raw" copy!

Anyway from what i can figure out gooing to Xp Profesional 64 bit version especialy with the latest service pack is the best solution for a few years anyway! The thing is i wanted vista cuz Halo 2 wont work on anithing other then vista or rather that is what i heard!

Brother you get any copy of visa up and working as good as xp please let me know, we talk about copmputers on several boards I visit, and I'd really hat eto misinform anybody about the different vista versions
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Post by: AlphaOne on December 14, 2007, 04:04:49 pm
well so far i know of over 5 personal frinds of mine that nearly smashed theyr pc's beause of vista but opted for the cheper version of just deleting vista and installing XP and at least 20 other ppl i meet once or twice a week that started looking wierd and full of hatred towards me or started laughing hard when i said i got Vista on my PC !  Sop i guess they are right im currently tryng to update the drivers for the vid card and update windows itself hopefully that will work if now then il just erase the damnned thing and go for XP 64 bit version.
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Post by: Turey on December 14, 2007, 09:49:19 pm
FSO works fine on Vista Ultimate for me.
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Post by: karajorma on December 15, 2007, 02:39:24 am
The thing is i wanted vista cuz Halo 2 wont work on anithing other then vista or rather that is what i heard!

Do a search on Google for "Halo 2 on XP" and you'll find lots of help on how to give MS the finger over that claim. :p
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Post by: jr2 on December 15, 2007, 03:40:21 am
I made a topic (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,50933.0.html) about it just a few hours ago.  It's called the Alky Project.
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Post by: wolfen on December 15, 2007, 01:19:01 pm
Turey I figured you above all people would have a working copy of vista if anybody did LOL. I never had a problem downloading the game it was playing the game. It might have been my copy of vista too, I know people that say vista rocks, and I know people who say never again after they dump vista. I'm one that says never again. I'll get a mac before I ever have vista after the 8 months of hell I went through
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Post by: spartan_0214 on December 15, 2007, 02:27:33 pm
It's a made-from-scratch OS from MS, give it a year and the proper drivers will be released. Mac's new OSes aren't really new OSes, rather they are more like Service Packs...
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Post by: wolfen on December 15, 2007, 04:22:45 pm
If I waited a year dealing with the OS I had I'd put a gun in my mouth and pull the trigger, I'm crazy enough as I am, the last thing I need is the stress of reloading a computer every 3 weeks.
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Post by: spartan_0214 on December 15, 2007, 04:43:07 pm
It's a matter of other companies not preparing for Vista. And reinstalling drivers is hardly "reloading a computer every 3 weeks."
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Post by: jr2 on December 15, 2007, 11:10:09 pm
It's a made-from-scratch OS from MS, give it a year and the proper drivers will be released. Mac's new OSes aren't really new OSes, rather they are more like Service Packs...

I heard it was supposed to be made from scratch, but they pushed that OS back to the next release and Vista is still a re-worked XP... anyone confirm this for me?
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Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2007, 08:14:05 am
It's a matter of other companies not preparing for Vista. And reinstalling drivers is hardly "reloading a computer every 3 weeks."

Reinstalling drivers?
I wish thats all I had to do, when I had vista on this rig heres the procedures I went through to reload it.

step 1) try to turn on computer, receive operating system not found message
step 2) Cuss a lot while trying to use vista disk to repair computers operating system
step 3) receive message that vista can NOT recover system because a system must be installed first
step 4) Go to reload step on vista disk
step 5) receive message that a operating system already exists, and windows vista can not overwrite it.
step 6) insert maxtor disk and format hard drive from scratch
step 7) reinsert vista disk
step 8) hope the generic vista cd drive will work this time
step 9) reinstall vista home basic
step 10 ) download and reinstall every single driver from M/S that I lost in the last reload
step 11 ) find out that Microsoft vista mouse doesn't work again, needs updated drivers ( HELLO! whats wrong here?)
step 12 ) reinstall all software and update drivers

thats what I went through every time I reloaded vista, dievate from any one step and you have to start all over again, all my 3rd party drivers worked fine, its the updated stuff I downloaded from Microsoft that didn't work right such as the M/S mouse certified for vista. The realteck drivers downloaded from M/S site they crashed the system, downloaded from realteck's site they work fine ( go figure)

If anybody is lucky enough to get away with simply reinstalling driver, I envy you. all that and having to log on as administrator every time I wanted to go wipe my butt, drove me to buy the O/S I'm on now, which has had NO problems yet.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 16, 2007, 08:41:19 am
It's a made-from-scratch OS from MS, give it a year and the proper drivers will be released. Mac's new OSes aren't really new OSes, rather they are more like Service Packs...
Wasn't XP from scratch? I never had problems with XP, and I got it in early 2001.
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Post by: spartan_0214 on December 16, 2007, 10:47:10 am
It's a matter of other companies not preparing for Vista. And reinstalling drivers is hardly "reloading a computer every 3 weeks."

Reinstalling drivers?
I wish thats all I had to do, when I had vista on this rig heres the procedures I went through to reload it.

step 1) try to turn on computer, receive operating system not found message
.
.
.
step 12 ) reinstall all software and update drivers

thats what I went through every time I reloaded vista, dievate from any one step and you have to start all over again, all my 3rd party drivers worked fine, its the updated stuff I downloaded from Microsoft that didn't work right such as the M/S mouse certified for vista. The realteck drivers downloaded from M/S site they crashed the system, downloaded from realtek's site they work fine ( go figure)

If anybody is lucky enough to get away with simply reinstalling driver, I envy you. all that and having to log on as administrator every time I wanted to go wipe my butt, drove me to buy the O/S I'm on now, which has had NO problems yet.

The people I know that bought Vista either bought it with their new computer or partitioned Vista and kept XP where it was...
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Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2007, 03:00:54 pm
Mine came with the brand new computer I bought. The preinstalled version was worse than the disk version, that one had some PCAngel installed on it that ate every bit of resources I had available, to make a completer backup of the current O/S (just in case) The first complete reload made that and all the McAffee stuff go away.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 16, 2007, 05:05:57 pm
I hate OEM OS copies, especially those of HP, which I've had the most experience with.
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Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2007, 05:45:44 pm
Preinstalled OEM's almost always come with all kinds of junk programs that people either don't want or don't need, and spends hours getting rid of, just like the copy of XP I bought has the online services folder, just from this post alone it should be pretty clear that I don't need the online folder LOL, guess what always gets deleted first?
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Post by: karajorma on December 16, 2007, 05:52:42 pm
Wasn't XP from scratch? I never had problems with XP, and I got it in early 2001.

Nope. Both XP and 2K are based on Windows NT.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 16, 2007, 07:05:21 pm
Preinstalled OEM's almost always come with all kinds of junk programs that people either don't want or don't need, and spends hours getting rid of, just like the copy of XP I bought has the online services folder, just from this post alone it should be pretty clear that I don't need the online folder LOL, guess what always gets deleted first?

That's why I trashed my OEM copy, and pirated a normal copy. I still payed for it, right?
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Post by: Turey on December 17, 2007, 04:43:24 am
IBM seems remarkably good at not screwing up their OEM copies of OSes. Whereas HP and (to some extent) Dell pack all sorts of crap on there.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 17, 2007, 06:18:20 am
IBM is pretty good. How bad is Dell? HP puts all of these bloated Microsoft Update things on there that don't actually do anything. And don't even get me started on Toshiba. On my mom's tablet, when you extend the taskbar, it goes right up to the Start button - on a 15" screen!
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Post by: Sethur on December 17, 2007, 10:01:11 am
I seem to be having a problem with the FSO installer. Whenever I try and use it, it complains about being outdated (I'm using the only version I could find, http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.zip) or me not having an internet connection (evidence to the contrary: ...uh, this post). Also, it creates an output file installer_error.log.txt in its directory, with the following contents:
java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 400 for URL: http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/version.txt
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)

If I then answer 'Yes' to the question whether I would like it to open the download page for the newest version, it appends the following to the same file:
java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 400 for URL: http://www.fsoinstaller.com/files/installer/java/latest.txt
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)

When I manually navigate to these files, I can read them no problem, so I am unsure as to what kind of request the installer makes in order to receive a Bad Request error.
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Post by: Turey on December 19, 2007, 07:34:13 pm
I've never heard of the 400 error code before. What ISP are you using?
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Post by: AlphaOne on December 19, 2007, 08:23:23 pm
well i think/hope/prey toevery known god in the world that i somehow managed to stabalize Vista si that i can somehow play FS but im not exactly sure. Well before it froze up before i managed to finish a mission now ive played 4 and no error so far! Lets just hoep it holds out! I simply updated vista and the vidcard drivers!
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Post by: spartan_0214 on December 19, 2007, 09:37:35 pm
well i think/hope/prey toevery known god in the world that i somehow managed to stabalize Vista si that i can somehow play FS but im not exactly sure. Well before it froze up before i managed to finish a mission now ive played 4 and no error so far! Lets just hoep it holds out! I simply updated vista and the vidcard drivers!

How does preying a God work anyway? /Sneak /Sneak /Sneak /"I have you-" /Lightning Bolt  XP
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Post by: Sethur on December 20, 2007, 10:13:01 am
I've never heard of the 400 error code before. What ISP are you using?
I'm on a university network, and accessing everything through a proxy. Does the installer attempt to open a connection on any nonstandard ports (http 80, ftp 21)? If so I'd need to get the IP of the server and set up an SSH tunnel for those ports.
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Post by: Turey on December 24, 2007, 01:15:58 pm
It should only use port 80 (HTTP).

At one point, I tried implementing proxy support into the Installer for someone, but it didn't work for them and they were unwilling to help me debug it. The code's still in there, so if you'd like I can look up the format for using it and get it to you.
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Post by: Sethur on December 27, 2007, 08:42:39 am
That would be pretty cool; I'm also studying CS and have some (minimal) experience with Java, so I'd be more than happy to help you debug proxy support. I actually looked through some of the source files myself to determine whether any strange port shenanigans were going on, but eventually laziness prevailed and I decided to just come here and ask instead :blah:
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Post by: Regeaj on December 27, 2007, 09:08:57 pm
Ok, I got a problem.

I downloaded the installer, installed the newest version. But when I tried to run it, it just said "Freespace2/Fred2 cannot be run form a drive root directory"...Well have absolutly now idea what this means, I loaded the installer in C: , and the actual game went into C: games/...

I inserted this message into the search function, and no results came up, so it might be a new problem.



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Post by: jr2 on December 27, 2007, 09:12:27 pm
Hmm.  You didn't load it into "My Documents\Games" or "Desktop\Games", did you?  If so, that is the problem, just move it to \Games\FreeSpace2  If not, then IDK..

EDIT: You ARE using Launcher.exe, right?  FreeSpace2.exe is retail launcher, FS2.exe is retail FreeSpace, fs2_open_3_6_9.exe is SCP FreeSpace, but you must use launcher.exe to launch, don't use any of the others I mentioned.
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 07:47:26 am

EDIT: You ARE using Launcher.exe, right?  FreeSpace2.exe is retail launcher, FS2.exe is retail FreeSpace, fs2_open_3_6_9.exe is SCP FreeSpace, but you must use launcher.exe to launch, don't use any of the others I mentioned.

Ah...That could be it...I have no fs2_open_3_6_9.exe, where do I get it? There are just F2.exe,  Freespace2.exe and FRED2.exe in the directory, where does the SCP Launcher appear?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on December 28, 2007, 07:48:11 am
Which Installer did you use?  The one from www.fsoinstaller.com?
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 07:50:04 am
Which Installer did you use?  The one from www.fsoinstaller.com?

I used the one from the first post in this thread.
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Post by: jr2 on December 28, 2007, 07:52:16 am
Re-run it again.  It should have installed those files.  Did it say that it had given up on downloading any files?
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 07:58:01 am
Re-run it again.  It should have installed those files.  Did it say that it had given up on downloading any files?

no...ok, I will no reinstall all files. And if I still get errors, I will make screenshots from the directories.
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 10:07:53 am

Great...Now it seems something with the installer is wrong, because after the download is at 100%, it starts with the download again from the beginning, now for the third time...I think I give up  :sigh:

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k63/Rudeljaeger/Unbenannt.jpg?t=1198858049




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Post by: c914 on December 28, 2007, 10:23:36 am
Very cool thing, don't have to search for CDs with game and browse tons of posts for few SCP files  :D
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 10:45:31 am
At least the download seems to work, I think maybe the last time not all the files were downloaded properly. How long does a complete download take, im now downloading over an hour.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 28, 2007, 12:12:45 pm
4 or 5 at 2 Mbits/second. (for a full install)
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 03:22:03 pm
Uhm how big is the complete directory? I got a little bit over 3 GB at the moment...
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Post by: karajorma on December 28, 2007, 03:41:11 pm
You should be getting close now. Remember that you're getting FS1 and FS2 + Mods. Both games together took up 5 CDs.
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Post by: Regeaj on December 28, 2007, 04:33:37 pm
Thanks, I got it. Which configuration should I choose for the best graphic? On "Graphic" I choosed every point, on gameplay I choosed "Enable 3d Warp",  "Use models for ship selection" and "Enable flash upon warp".

I let the other markers in the standart configuration.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 28, 2007, 04:40:45 pm
It really depends on how much punishment your computer can take. I'd advise you to tick at least Enable specular, Enable glowmaps, Enable environment maps, Enable jpg/tga textures and Use models for ship selection. If you experience severe lagging, start ticking the options off until you reach a tolerable limit. But leave Enable jpg/tga textures on. You'll need it to avoid annoying graphical problems.

You can also use the Custom flags field to adjust lighting values. I use the following. you can test it and adjust it according to the FreeSpace Wiki article on the subject.

-ambient_factor 75 -spec_exp 11 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 0.8 -spec_tube 0.4 -no_emissive_light -ogl_spec 80

And use OpenGL.
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Post by: CaptainFAT on December 28, 2007, 05:25:11 pm
Greetings to all.  I hate to bother you with dumb questions right off the bat, but I have several problems.
I have the Interplay 20th Anniversary Edition of FS2 retail, and FS1 retail (with Silent Threat). I've been researching the SCP for quite some time, but just never found the place to get it until I stumbled upon HLP and discovered Turey's flawless installer and jr2's instructions.
Well.. I downloaded it, (having FS2 installed, and I had played through the campaign up to Sicilian Defence i think, and FS1 not installed), copied the movie files from the disks, followed all the instructions (OpenAL, configuration of the launcher, etc), and when I opened it the computer screen was a distorted piece of jumbled pixels. I fixed this by tinkering with the video settings on the launcher, and it started right up.
The first problem i noticed was that the models of the ships in the tech database did not show up, or were incomplete, then when I attempted to continue the campaign, the screen minimized and an error message came up reading:

Error: Could not load WarpMap02 anim file

File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Fireball\FireBalls.cpp
Line: 697
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I didnt know what to do. I decided to delete everything, uninstallation of the game and everything, and start over. This time I downloaded the retail core from the installer, not the game (I thought the 20th anniversary edition had something to do with it), my progress had, of course been deleted so I started with the training missions of the mediavps? mod. The same error message occurred, but this time i clicked 'ok' twice, and it continued to load successfully. I skipped the first two training missions and launched the third. I witnessed the magnificent changes of the scp: the enhanced nebular backgrounds, etc, but when the first drone jumped in, the game, computer, everything froze.
I rebooted and tried again with the fsport mod, this time with the 'high memory usage features off' activated. The tech database still did not show models. I launched the FS1 campaign and this time did not skip and training missions. When the first drone jumped in, it froze again. I also noticed an error file appeared in the fs2's directory, indicating an integer divide by zero error. At this point i realized the only option was to come here to request assistance from the masters.
I apologize for the length of my post, but I wanted to give you all the information i could. I haven't ruled out the possibility that this is an internal problem and found nothing of the sort on the faq.
please help, thanks.
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Post by: karajorma on December 28, 2007, 05:51:18 pm
What are your system specs? I've seen this one pop a couple of times in the past actually.
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Post by: CaptainFAT on December 31, 2007, 02:28:42 pm
its a Diminsion 4300 with Windows XP 5.1 service pack 2; Pentium 4 CPU 1.4 GHz; 256 MB Ram; 1393.5 MHz speed; 18.6 GB disk space.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on December 31, 2007, 05:37:55 pm
Therein probably lies your problem. That is waaaaay worse than my PC; half the RAM, worse processor, and chances are a crappy GPU. Delete every file in the "mediavps" directory with advp in the name. IF it still doesn't work, lower the detail.

What is your GPU? (video card)
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Post by: jr2 on January 01, 2008, 01:54:18 am
If you're not sure what it is, grab GPU-Z from my sig.
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Post by: Regeaj on January 01, 2008, 12:50:52 pm
I heard there is a new version of Freespace SCP available...3.6.10.

But how can I update my version? I I run the installer an choose "update installed sections only", I got afterwards still version 3.6.9...
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Post by: Mobius on January 01, 2008, 12:54:04 pm
Browse the correct FS Open build with your launcher, then click on "Apply". You will also have to get compatible media vps... :)
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Post by: Regeaj on January 01, 2008, 01:21:05 pm
Browse the correct FS Open build with your launcher, then click on "Apply". You will also have to get compatible media vps... :)

Im now just downloading the MV_Core.vps, Assets.vps, Music.vps etc. and will insert them manualy in the FS2 directory. That should also do it, right?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 01, 2008, 01:37:49 pm
Im now just downloading the MV_Core.vps, Assets.vps, Music.vps etc. and will insert them manualy in the FS2 directory. That should also do it, right?
No. Put them into their own directory, something like \freespace\mediavps3610 or along those lines. Never put anything in the root freespace directory.
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Post by: Regeaj on January 01, 2008, 02:22:49 pm
Well I meant to replace the .vps files in the mediavps folder...
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 01, 2008, 02:24:57 pm
Ah, good. In that case, carry on.
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Post by: Regeaj on January 04, 2008, 11:03:44 am
When I download the installer now, will it load the new 3.6.10 Version or still the old 3.6.9 one...?
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Post by: karajorma on January 04, 2008, 11:47:34 am
The 3.6.10 media VPs are still in beta testing and for this reason shouldn't be added to the installer yet. We'd get too many people complaining about bugs if that happened.

Installing them yourself isn't very hard but if you don't know how you probably shouldn't be playing with them yet.
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Post by: jr2 on January 04, 2008, 04:25:41 pm
3.6.10 are optional in the Installer... which .exe you choose in the Launcher is up to you, however, and I think it defaults to 3.6.9 (not sure).

EDIT: That's the build, not the MVPs... not sure about those.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 04, 2008, 05:57:14 pm
Simply backup everything in the mediavps folder to a safe place. Delete the ones in your mediavps folder.

Get the 3.6.10 .EXEs from the installer.

Get the new MVPs from this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,51229.0.html) thread. Only get the AdVP if you have a fast video card. Place the files in \FreeSpace2\mediavps. (REMEMBER TO BACK UP THE OLD VPS!!!)
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Post by: Turey on January 08, 2008, 11:07:07 pm
I'm thinking of putting the 3.6.10 mediavps into the Installer, but making them unselected by default.
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Post by: karajorma on January 09, 2008, 02:31:18 am
Wait for DaBrain to patch them and then make only one set of VPs selectable at a time.

Otherwise you're going to get people downloading both.
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Post by: Turey on January 09, 2008, 02:51:17 am
Wait for DaBrain to patch them and then make only one set of VPs selectable at a time.

Otherwise you're going to get people downloading both.

Sure.
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Post by: S-99 on January 09, 2008, 04:59:42 pm
Just as a reminder and out of curiosity...has lightspeed's nebulas and the modified fs2 missions that work with his nebulaes gotten into the installer at all?
It's really a terrible thing to forget everytime to do a fresh install of fs2.
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Post by: Turey on January 10, 2008, 07:58:34 pm
Just as a reminder and out of curiosity...has lightspeed's nebulas and the modified fs2 missions that work with his nebulaes gotten into the installer at all?
It's really a terrible thing to forget everytime to do a fresh install of fs2.

Not sure if they're in there now, but from what I've read, they're in the 3.6.10 mediavps, so they should be in soon.
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Post by: Regeaj on January 28, 2008, 12:25:38 pm
Any ideas when the installer will be updated to 3.6.10? Two weeks? A month?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 28, 2008, 12:49:05 pm
The installer is separate from the SCP, it's just a way to get files. As sonn as FSO 3.6.10 comes out, the installer will include the files. 3.6.10 isn't out yet, so you can only get the baby .EXEs.
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Post by: wolfen on January 28, 2008, 04:22:33 pm
So in the mean time I should go to SCP and get the nebula's right? Just asking cause I finished installing a replacement hard drive 2 days ago and I'm about to download Tureys installer (again)
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 28, 2008, 05:03:33 pm
If at all possible, just copy the files over. You don't need the Lightspeed nebulae, unless you have a campaign requiring them. What do you mean "Go to SCP"?
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Post by: wolfen on January 28, 2008, 07:05:49 pm
This place  >>>  http://scp.indiegames.us/news2.php

I used to get some stuff for FS from there and here both.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 28, 2008, 07:28:36 pm
The SCP site is about 2-3 years out of date. In other words, don't use it.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 28, 2008, 11:57:36 pm
This place  >>>  http://scp.indiegames.us/news2.php

I used to get some stuff for FS from there
That is equivalent to going to the TBP site and trying to download stuff from there. Don't do it. Scour the forums for the newest official content or use Turey's Installer. And as for the LS Nebulae, go to Useful Stuff (link in my signature).
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Post by: wolfen on January 29, 2008, 03:29:56 pm
Thanks for that info, I've been using Tureys installer since his first post about it.  HOWEVER, the links in your sig might be useful :) I have been using 7zip for about 6 months now, its better than win zip, and kinda like winrar, I have a corp version of winrar that I paid out the butt for that never has to be registered but once :).
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 03:05:22 pm
Hi,

A little help please.

I discovered this game yesterday after seeing rave reviews.
I downloaded the files with the installer. Stupid me, I downloaded almost everything (several hours) except the Linux and Mac .exe, and the 3.6.10 exe. So I believe I have way too many files to start with, with a folder of 3,42 GB.

Anyway, I now have so many exe and packages that I do not know where to start, and how to install and run the game.

Any instructions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

My specs :

1.5 GB free disk space
AMD Athlon 2600+ (1.9 GHz)
Radeon 9600 Pro 128 MB
1 Gig RAM
DirectX 9.0c
Windows XP
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 31, 2008, 03:10:55 pm
Getting started with FreeSpace 2 (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Getting_started_with_FreeSpace_2)

FreeSpace 2 manual (http://www.the-underdogs.info/games/f/freespace2/files/freespace2-m.zip)

Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/intro.html)

The Moonwalk Superstar (http://xrl.us/bdj2k)

:welcomered:

Use Launcher.exe and fs2_open_3_6_9.exe. Nothing else. If you downloaded everything, you now have all the graphical delight, as well as several usermade campaigns. Be happy. Oh, and with that rig, remove adv_effects.vp from your mediavps folder.
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 03:17:03 pm
Thanks Lobo.

Before I launch anything, I just found out the this in my installer notes generated at the end of the download. Thus this means I should take care of any of that first ?

Quote :

Congratulations! Your FreeSpace Open install/upgrade has completed! However, there may still be a few more things you have to do. If there is any text below this paragraph, please read it carefully, as it contains important information that you will need to know.


Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Windows Executables
You'll need OpenAL to play the game. You can get OpenAL here:
http://www.openal.org/downloads.html
You'll also need to run the application launcher.exe in the folder you just installed to. Once it opens, make sure the box at the top says <The Folder You Installed To>\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe. You can play around with the options on the tabs, just make sure to leave it in OpenGL unless you're having serious problems, as D3D support is flakey.
IMPORTANT NOTE: There was an error while installing this section. You may need to run the Installer again in order to ensure that this section works correctly.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 31, 2008, 03:23:20 pm
Basically what it says.

1. You need OpenAL. If you don't have it installed, the game will nag about it and won't start. The link will eventually lead to a page where you can download the latest version of OpenAL.

2. Play in OpenGL instead of Direct3D in order to avoid several bugs and glitches. This option can be accessed from the Video tab in the Launcher.
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 03:42:15 pm
I just searched my system, I found the following files in Windows\system32 :

OpenAL32.dll     
nvopenal.dll

both ver. 5.10.2917.0

Is this what we are talking about ? They both go back to the initial installation of XP in 2002 (I am still using Service Pack 1).

I guess I am ready to run the launcher.exe

I am all right with 1.5 GB free space, right ?


Thanks for your help.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 31, 2008, 04:04:22 pm
Sounds like you are set to play FreeSpace. If you experience problems with OpenAL, see this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48621.0.html) for instructions on how to properly uninstall OpenAL before reinstalling. And, as a side note, I'd recommend installing SP2 at this point. You've probably missed over 60 security updates by now.
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 04:22:16 pm
And, as a side note, I'd recommend installing SP2 at this point. You've probably missed over 60 security updates by now.

Ah ! Ah ! True. But my system has always been rock solid. Installing SP 2 has always scared me, what with all the horror stories I read from people with their Microsoft Flight Simulator and Falcon 4 installs (which I both have) going bezerk.
I wouldn't know where to start if I had to re-install XP entirely, and I am not even sure if I can, since it was installed for me at the shop and I don't believe I have the disks.
So I feel safer with SP 1.

Thanks for your help. I'll explore Freespace tonight.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 31, 2008, 04:35:59 pm
SP2 almost kills my PC compared to XP original. Not in a week or so...
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 04:54:25 pm
Hmmmm.... No joy.

"Freespace launcher has encountered a problem and needs to close".

The error message does not mention anything about OpenAl. I suppose that it is possible that my version of OpenAL is too old, but before installing the one from the link, I would like some advice.
This is where the SP2 pack issue becomes a possible problem. If the download version of OpenAl is for SP2, and causes problem for SP1, I could screw up XP.

I'll continue reading to try to find a solution, but any informed advice is very much welcome.

Thanks.
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Post by: karajorma on January 31, 2008, 05:00:17 pm
There's nothing wrong with installing it all at first. The only advice I'll give is to run launcher.exe and go to the mod tab. Choose FSport as your mod as that will allow you to play through FS1 first. Then you can select mediavps in order to play FS2.
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 07:26:22 pm
Ok. Problem solved. It was OpenAL. My version must have been too old.

By the way, it is not sufficient to run the new OpenAL installer. The old wrap_oal.dll and OpanAL32.dll files haves to be deleted first, than you install the new versions.

Now I just have to find the right settings, and to learn how to play this game.
Should be fun.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 31, 2008, 07:47:34 pm
Delete the AdVPs like Lobo said, and run everything at highest settings.
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Post by: Mystic on January 31, 2008, 08:47:28 pm
Choose FSport as your mod as that will allow you to play through FS1 first. Then you can select mediavps in order to play FS2.

Is this where I should start ?
Does the storyline or the learning curve justify doing that ?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on January 31, 2008, 09:50:50 pm
FSPort has it's own training missions, as FS1 would have.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on February 01, 2008, 03:29:00 am
Is this where I should start ?
Does the storyline or the learning curve justify doing that ?
Storyline. The learning curve is pretty similar in FS1 (or FSPort) and FS2, but trust me on this one: it feels kinda stupid to first play FS2 and then FS1.

And from the Launcher, open the Features tab and start ticking graphical options on. Later, you can check out the Command Line Reference in the FreeSpace Wiki to see how you can adjust lighting values for a bit more realistic appearance.
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Post by: jr2 on February 02, 2008, 03:26:30 am
After you are done with FS1, and you want to play FS2, make sure you use the mod folder "mediavps" to give you the nice graphics for FS2.. the "fsport" mod folder you are using for FS1 automatically selects "mediavps" as well.  But when you want to play FS2, don't select "No MOD", instead, just select "mediavps".  K?  ;)
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Post by: Mystic on February 02, 2008, 05:17:26 pm
Thanks for all your help. Ensign "Nutron" is now in training.
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Post by: Gumbyfunk on February 11, 2008, 03:05:32 am
Hi All,
I'm so glad that my fav. space sim still has such a strong following after all these years. I wanted to get my friends involved in playing the game. I downloaded everything and I have been able to get both games working properly.

The only question I have is... Is there multiplayer for the original Freespace campaign or just Freespace 2?



One more thing.... Is 4 players supported for the entire Freespace 2 Campaign or just the first half?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on February 11, 2008, 08:14:53 am
Hi All,
I'm so glad that my fav. space sim still has such a strong following after all these years. I wanted to get my friends involved in playing the game. I downloaded everything and I have been able to get both games working properly.

The only question I have is... Is there multiplayer for the original Freespace campaign or just Freespace 2?



One more thing.... Is 4 players supported for the entire Freespace 2 Campaign or just the first half?
None, AFAIK, for either. If there is a 4 player FS2 campaign, it likely isn't a validated FS2NetD mission. You can play FS1 in multi if you:
A: Make a multi mission using FSPort.
B: Put it in it's proper place in your FSO folder. (don't know where this is)
C: Select FSPort in the launcher and host a game. Make sure that everyone else has also selected FSPort.
The only thing is, unless you get the mission validated, you won't get a score.
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Post by: Gumbyfunk on February 11, 2008, 08:02:49 pm
Thanks so much for the replay. I guess it doesn't hurt to give it a shot. Thanks again.
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Post by: jr2 on February 14, 2008, 08:09:43 am

B: Put it in it's proper place in your FSO folder. (don't know where this is)


I think that would be \FreeSpace2\fsport\data\missions  (assuming you have fsport installed to "fsport" under FreeSpace2, which you should have)
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Post by: wolfen on February 17, 2008, 11:14:40 am
I just tried to install FS from the installer alone LOL, for some reason on this computer I have to install the retail first, THEN use tureys installer, I have no idea in hades why, it just work that way, on the kids computers the installer works just fine. it has to be a vista thing. I swear I', putting xp back on here again.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on February 17, 2008, 12:22:56 pm

B: Put it in it's proper place in your FSO folder. (don't know where this is)


I think that would be \FreeSpace2\fsport\data\missions  (assuming you have fsport installed to "fsport" under FreeSpace2, which you should have)
But would that load it as a multi mission?
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Post by: Stealth on February 19, 2008, 06:27:59 am
i'm with cole on this one
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Post by: Clawandfang on February 19, 2008, 04:54:55 pm
Sorry if this has already been said, but I ran a couple of searches and drew nothing up.

Whilst I was using the installer I was thinking "Great! I'll be able to play one of my favourite games once again!" But after few hours I was beginning to wonder how much longer it was going to take, as there seemed to be no real way of telling the overall percentage complete.

How feasable is it to re-work the installer to include a "percentage complete" bar?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on February 19, 2008, 05:01:47 pm
That's what I've wondered. Should be simple, tally files selected, log amount downloaded.
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Post by: Turey on February 19, 2008, 11:08:27 pm
That's what I've wondered. Should be simple, tally files selected, log amount downloaded.

It's not nearly that simple. It would require re-writing most of the parsing code. You're welcome to code it yourself, the source is on the website.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on February 20, 2008, 07:42:28 am
I'll leave you do that. :p
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Post by: wolfen on March 21, 2008, 07:52:20 pm
Don't play with Tureys installer, it works fine on my computer and I like things that work fine on my computer. I had vista and Tureys installer didn't work on my rig, it was a problem with the computer, I have since fixed teh problem by upgrading from vista to XP ( yes I said upgrade), now Tureys installer work again, please leave it to work again :)
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 25, 2008, 01:09:02 pm
Can you say :necro: ?

And if you hate Vista, why do you have it in your sig?
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Post by: Mars on March 25, 2008, 01:23:39 pm
and that would be "an" old pickup truck
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Post by: Fergus on March 26, 2008, 09:53:07 am
I'm not entirely sure where to post this, but since I've been using the installer I think this is the most appropriate place (and I have searched for threads about it), but the OpenAL download site seems to be down.
I try the link at the bottom of the site for the windows installer or the windows SDK but nothing happens.  I can download the source code, but havn't the foggiest how I'd use that.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on March 26, 2008, 10:08:57 am
Hmm. Has it been down for long? If not, give it some time and maybe it'll eventually be back up.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 26, 2008, 04:16:44 pm
It's working now.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on March 26, 2008, 04:19:49 pm
Proceed (http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/proceed.jpg).
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Post by: Fergus on March 27, 2008, 08:16:18 am
Cheers
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Post by: wolfen on March 27, 2008, 09:12:13 pm
Can you say :necro: ?

And if you hate Vista, why do you have it in your sig?

Oh man I feel stupid, thanks for pointing that out brother, I completely overlooked that being there I'll probably have it changed by the time you read this so. thanks again :)
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Post by: wolfen on March 27, 2008, 09:14:46 pm
and that would be "an" old pickup truck

English was never my strong point, I was history and shop, mainly shop.
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Post by: wolfen on March 28, 2008, 08:15:48 pm
Signature is now changed to reflect my feelings of vista :)
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Post by: Turey on March 29, 2008, 12:08:47 pm
Oh hey.

I was working on something completely unrelated, when I realized I didn't have the latest version of PCS2.

So once I downloaded it, I decided I should share the wealth.

so PCS 2.0.1 is now included in the tools section. Hope it works.
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Post by: wolfen on March 30, 2008, 05:06:55 pm
The tools section of what?
I'm obviously missing something here thats gonna get me laughed at.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 30, 2008, 07:29:06 pm
The tools section of what?
I'm obviously missing something here thats gonna get me laughed at.
The installer has an option to install "Tools". Basically stuff like the FS2Net Game Viewer, PCS2, VPView, ModelView, stuff like that.
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Post by: Daz on March 30, 2008, 10:47:12 pm
Hi. I haven't played Freespace (2) before and was really looking forward to it. I have been using the installer to get bits and pieces of the game over a few nights on my laptop. I'm up to the last piece that I wanted (Advanced media VPS and FS Port), but the installer doesn't work any more.

What I have been doing: It starts up okay, Click next, next, uncheck yes to all, click next. At this point, it freezes. The screen where you check the packages you want stays completely greyed out. I tried it with both the JAR and exe versions of the installer (Windows may have updated. I wasn't really paying attention). The only thing I can think of that's changed on my system is that I have rebooted it, which I didn't do between the other installs.

I also tried just leaving it for a while, to see if it was still working, but it stayed the same for a number of hours.

I may just try and finish the installation off on another computer later tonight.

Thanks!

edit: Using Windows XP with all updates. Virus scanner is McAfee, but I turned it off to make sure.
edit2: Also happens on my Vista computer.
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Post by: kazbear on March 30, 2008, 10:51:11 pm
I just installed with the installer yesterday on another computer with no probelms.  Right now, i get the same as the post above...
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Post by: Scuddie on March 31, 2008, 05:58:42 am
java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL: http://www.sectorgame.com/goober/dem.txt

Looks like Gooby used up all his bandwidth :blah:...  I bet he really hates us now...
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 31, 2008, 08:20:15 am
Your saying that that's the problem or Gooby will be pissed? That wouldn't cause the problem, I assume like these two that it must have been an update.
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Post by: Daz on March 31, 2008, 08:46:04 am
Yeah, now that I think back properly, windows did update. It had the "Install updates and shut down" option, but I didn't take any notice of it.
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Post by: kazbear on March 31, 2008, 10:50:08 am
For my part, I did not do a Windows Update.
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Post by: Scuddie on March 31, 2008, 01:29:54 pm
Well, maybe it wasn't the exceeded bandwidth that killed the application, but it was the first line in the error log.  Perhaps if it wasn't, the log may be able to tell what the real problem was.

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Post by: kazbear on March 31, 2008, 08:03:06 pm
 :) working now...
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Post by: wolfen on March 31, 2008, 09:02:23 pm
The tools section of what?
I'm obviously missing something here thats gonna get me laughed at.
The installer has an option to install "Tools". Basically stuff like the FS2Net Game Viewer, PCS2, VPView, ModelView, stuff like that.

Oh,....that tools section, I was thing inside the tunnel looking all over this site for the tools section LOL, but do I feel stupid.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 31, 2008, 09:05:54 pm
The tools section of what?
I'm obviously missing something here thats gonna get me laughed at.
The installer has an option to install "Tools". Basically stuff like the FS2Net Game Viewer, PCS2, VPView, ModelView, stuff like that.

Oh,....that tools section, I was thing inside the tunnel looking all over this site for the tools section LOL, but do I feel stupid.
You were "thing inside the tunnel" were you?
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Post by: spartan_0214 on March 31, 2008, 09:48:30 pm
I hope he packed a lunch...
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 31, 2008, 09:52:44 pm
I hope he packed a lunch...
lol that's what I was thinking. Or maybe if he is the thing, he is Carl?
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Post by: spartan_0214 on March 31, 2008, 10:27:31 pm
If he doesn't watch it in those tunnels and vents he'll be a part of Carl, but no, Wolfen is not Carl. Carl is Carl. This is Carl. Huh. Have a lunch?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on March 31, 2008, 10:43:25 pm
If he doesn't watch it in those tunnels and vents he'll be a part of Carl, but no, Wolfen is not Carl. Carl is Carl. This is Carl. Huh. Have a lunch?
I'd post the Carl pic if every link to it wasn't Rick Roll'd.
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Post by: spartan_0214 on March 31, 2008, 10:47:25 pm
Curse you, Goob.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 01, 2008, 05:00:28 pm
Ok somebody is playing around with the message board here, I have looked at some of my past posts and theres a different handle on each one, I really hope its a computer glitch cause I'd really hate to think that theres somebody on here who gets his kicks from trying to mess with people.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 01, 2008, 08:47:49 pm
Ok somebody is playing around with the message board here, I have looked at some of my past posts and theres a different handle on each one, I really hope its a computer glitch cause I'd really hate to think that theres somebody on here who gets his kicks from trying to mess with people.

If you're posting a message, you get the correct names in the "topic summary" at the bottom of the page.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spartan_0214 on April 01, 2008, 09:19:46 pm
Spartan_0214 posting here: I knew this would happen. Goob, you have a twisted, sadistic sense of humor. I'd bet you don't change usernames when you post...actually, it is pretty funny
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on April 01, 2008, 10:56:42 pm
wort wort wort!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 02, 2008, 04:25:39 pm
Ok somebody is playing around with the message board here, I have looked at some of my past posts and theres a different handle on each one, I really hope its a computer glitch cause I'd really hate to think that theres somebody on here who gets his kicks from trying to mess with people.

If you're posting a message, you get the correct names in the "topic summary" at the bottom of the page.

Ok but why does it change on the post itself?
And why when I just looked back at my old posts my name is wolfen again?
I'm just wondering if its at my end or if somebody's messing around cause I read other posts that had 1 name when I first looked at it, and a completely different name the second time I looked at it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 02, 2008, 04:34:31 pm
April Fools.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 03, 2008, 04:12:49 pm
April Fools.

So it was YOU changing the names AH HAH! hmmmmm what to do with you, I know I'll send my 10 year old son to live with you :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: spartan_0214 on April 03, 2008, 06:31:22 pm
Erm. That was actually Goober5000.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 05, 2008, 06:19:48 pm
Ok then Goober gets my son.

Oh Hell somebody besides me gets him, wheres that Marine recruiter when I need him?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 05, 2008, 07:41:05 pm
Sign him up for the AF, less mortality rate. (or that may be a bad thing from what you're saying)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 06, 2008, 03:35:50 pm
Basically the one I'm talking about is my youngest, he's 10, and so far in his life I have discovered that he's basically unbreakable, last year he fell out of the top of a 40 foot maple tree, landed on his side, got up and went back up the tree to kick the limb that broke. Drop him in Iraq, the war would be over in 3 weeks LMAO
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 06, 2008, 04:24:55 pm
Wow. Sounds like my friend (12 or so), his asshole brother (15) tries his hardest to break him, he's had like combined about 100+ stitches, and he still lives.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 07, 2008, 04:22:51 pm
Joey ( my 10 year old) has up until this point in time never even had one stitch anywhere on his person, How he hasn't I have no clue at all, his older Brother (Scott)(14) on the other hand has had 3 casts, 5 stitches, and currently has a broken arm with every girl's name in the neighbor hood on it, and some of them are20ish ( how)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 07, 2008, 05:14:19 pm
Joey ( my 10 year old) has up until this point in time never even had one stitch anywhere on his person, How he hasn't I have no clue at all, his older Brother (Scott)(14) on the other hand has had 3 casts, 5 stitches, and currently has a broken arm with every girl's name in the neighbor hood on it, and some of them are20ish ( how)
lol.

April Fools.

So it was YOU changing the names AH HAH! hmmmmm what to do with you, I know I'll send my 10 year old son to live with you :)
And on a side note, how could I change the names?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on April 07, 2008, 09:15:23 pm
Getting a bit off-topic guys...

Not that I mind, brings a bit of activity to a mostly-dead thread...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 08, 2008, 10:43:39 am
S'only cause you've n00b-proofed the installer so well.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 08, 2008, 11:01:45 am
It is missing one thing, though. At the end of the installation procedure, the user should get a full-screen presentation, that would say something along the lines of "Enable the ****ing jpg/tga textures! Install the ****ing OpenAL! In addition to selecting the ****ing mod, select the ****ing appropriate campaign in-game as well!", or something.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 08, 2008, 01:54:33 pm
It is missing one thing, though. At the end of the installation procedure, the user should get a full-screen presentation, that would say something along the lines of "Enable the ****ing jpg/tga textures! Install the ****ing OpenAL! In addition to selecting the ****ing mod, select the ****ing appropriate campaign in-game as well!", or something.
QFT. One suggestion I have is to add premade launcher.INIs for high, medium and low end systems, with only one downloadable.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 10, 2008, 04:08:19 pm
My only issue with freespace installing is after I get it installed (btw with Tureys latest and greatest I don't need the cd's anymore) when i click to play it from the launcher, I get teh video that is on the FS disk, is this supposed to be there or is it a leftover I forgot to delete?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 10, 2008, 04:11:10 pm
Umm, what? If you get an intro when starting the game, everything's fine. The Installer can download the ogg cutscenes and they should play, if you're playing in OpenGL.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on April 11, 2008, 08:32:02 pm
Ok thanks, thats what I was hopping to hear :) I know FS will always run fine, I just wanted to make sure theres nothing wrong, I can always close the intro vid easy enough
Title: Launcher for OS X mirror problem
Post by: mr.zwiebelkopf on April 17, 2008, 12:57:47 pm
I just tried to install FS2 Open but the installer said that there was a problem and that I should run it again. That didn't help though.

I think the problem is a wrong mirror url because the log says:

Starting section: FS2_Open Launcher for OS X
Checking: FS2_Open_Launcher_3.0.1.dmg
Current File Size: 0
New File Size: 272
Download Mirror 1 (http://users.otenet.gr/mecos/Development/Objc/filez/FS2_Open_Launcher/) has failed.
All Download Mirrors have failed.
Done with section: FS2_Open Launcher for OS X

I was unable to find a 3.0.1 Version and MacUpdate only lists the 2.0.1 Version. This site however has a link to the 2.0.2 Version: http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/jonmecos/Mainsite/Development/Objc/index.html (http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/jonmecos/Mainsite/Development/Objc/index.html)

I hope changing the mirror helps to solve this problem but the data is fetched from a server right? So it would be nice if this could be fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 17, 2008, 05:46:54 pm
Something wrong there. You should be getting the 3.6.9 version. And as for it not downloading it means that the mirror's down, that's all.

And why does the name mecos sound familiar?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 18, 2008, 02:48:05 am
*sigh* It's not the time. It's the sites that keep changing... (a pat on the back for anyone who gets the attempted reference)

Try here (http://soulstorm-creations.com/SOULSTORM_CUSTOM_FILES/FS2_Open_Launcher_3.0.1.dmg).

Edit: 'N cole, he means the OS X Launcher, not the build. The build is surely 3.6.9 and is most likely downloaded by the Installer. But the Mac Launchers are a completely different universe.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HTWingNut on April 23, 2008, 09:39:51 pm
Hello - Im a newb here.

I had a blast with Freespace 2 in the past (what, almost 10 years ago?). I am downloading FS2 Open right now.I would like to install it on a few PC's, so do I have to run the installer and download for every PC or can I download once and copy the files to another PC and run the installer and have it check for updated files?

Thanks!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 23, 2008, 10:04:57 pm
Download it once, and drag your FS2 folder onto a DVD or whatever. Copy it to as many PCs as you like. You don't need an individual download for each PC, and it saves bandwidth this way.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 24, 2008, 07:50:29 am
Aye. Turey will be quite mad if you use the Installer to download all the **** on several computers separately.

The thing with FreeSpace is, that the Installer, regardless of the name, only downloads stuff. And when it has downloaded stuff, you just use Launcher.exe to start playing. That's it. So yeah. The environmentally friendly procedure is that you first download everything on one computer, then just copy it on a DVD (or and external HDD or a big enough stick) and just copy it on other computers. Fun 'n easy.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on April 27, 2008, 05:20:15 am
Just copy the folder.

Older versions of the launcher used to have a problem with you moving the game to a different directory on the other machine but newer versions can cope with that quite well.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: CZZ on May 01, 2008, 06:49:30 am
Hi

Been years since I played FS2 and I am now enthused re the FS2_Open version. As a noob got a couple of questions..I have searched FAQ and there's so many RTFM sections I am confused   :shaking:

I have today downloaded Turey's FS Open Installer for windows and set off the install process which is still ploughing it's way through numerous downloads.

Questions:

* Can I presume that I am downloading the latest versions of all that stuff shown in the installer startup and that I got the latest version of Turey's Installer;
* Does the Installer download latest stuff as and when it is released if you start the installer;
* If not, which is the best forum to keep an eye for latest updates etc;
* Do I need the discs that came with my original FS2 in the drive to start FS_Open.?

Thanks for responses and apologies if these are covered elsewhere but there's so much stuff to take in and learn.

And much appreciation to the guys who have done all this stuff it is immense, never quite seen this amount of work on a game before from a community.

Thanks CZZ :  :nervous:

Duh I just seen a thread on here re a newb asking similar and more specific questions...sorry....beat me with a stick :ick:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 01, 2008, 07:01:43 pm
:welcomesilver: CZZ!

If you download the installer, you can be sure that the installer itself is the latest, because it checks for updates when run.

As for the rest of the stuff, the Installer has the most up-to-date stuff, and rerunning it over a previous install will update any old files.

The only thing lacking may be that the 3.6.10 .EXEs are old.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 03, 2008, 01:55:41 am
The only thing lacking may be that the 3.6.10 .EXEs are old.
That and the fact that it doesn't download the 3.6.10 MediaVPs. Though there is a good reason for that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: HTWingNut on May 04, 2008, 06:16:19 am
With the installer, it only downloaded 3.6.9's no 3.6.10's. Should it have downloaded any 3.6.10's?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on May 04, 2008, 06:21:34 am
Well, 3.6.10's new so I'll let you guess...you can find it in the "Recent Builds" subforum.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,97.0.html

:)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 04, 2008, 06:26:07 am
With the installer, it only downloaded 3.6.9's no 3.6.10's. Should it have downloaded any 3.6.10's?
I thought it would download one of the 3.6.10 builds, but I might have been mistaken. They can be acquired from the Recent builds board, but if you want as little hassle and bugs as possible, just stick with 3.6.9 and the 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: captain-custard on May 04, 2008, 06:53:09 am
With the installer, it only downloaded 3.6.9's no 3.6.10's. Should it have downloaded any 3.6.10's?
I thought it would download one of the 3.6.10 builds, but I might have been mistaken. They can be acquired from the Recent builds board, but if you want as little hassle and bugs as possible, just stick with 3.6.9 and the 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs.


or you can look here...... http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53508.0.html (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53508.0.html)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on May 05, 2008, 02:57:33 am
* Do I need the discs that came with my original FS2 in the drive to start FS_Open.?

No, but if you have them you can save yourself a whole bunch of time downloading by installing from the CDs and then using the installer to add FS2_Open rather than having to download all the FS2 data as well.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 05, 2008, 10:07:42 am
Install retail into "C\Games\FreeSpace2"  Then copy the .MVE files on all the discs to "C\Games\FreeSpace2\data\movies". Then run the installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 07, 2008, 08:31:26 pm
Install retail into "C\Games\FreeSpace2"  Then copy the .MVE files on all the discs to "C\Games\FreeSpace2\data\movies". Then run the installer.

..which will also download the .ogg video versions, if you don't put the correct patch file in.. I have a walkthrough on that.  (See my sig.)  Basically, the patch file tells the Installer that it already got the .ogg videos.  Alternatively, you could just uncheck the video sections for the videos you have.  Bleh, Turey needs to make his installer check for .mves in their respective direcories.  I mean, c'mon, we paid him $60,000 to make that Installer.  :mad:  ... :nervous:  Oh, wait, that's right, he did it for free.  xD
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 08, 2008, 02:50:24 am
I mean, c'mon, we paid him $60,000 to make that Installer.  :mad:  ... :nervous:  Oh, wait, that's right, he did it for free.  xD
For free? Then where the hell are my $3,000?! j/k

Usually I rant on about the bandwidth issues and such, but I guess it wouldn't be that wrong to just download the ogg cutscenes and be done with it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dogeddie on May 19, 2008, 07:28:13 am
Somehow I mistakenly put a check next to the Mac Executables on my installer. (I have Windows) How do I get it to uncheck so those files don't continue to update, and what is their name and location so I can get rid of the ones I have?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 19, 2008, 03:06:38 pm
I'm pretty sure you need to delete the current installer and re download it.not sure though, its actually been a few months since I've had to reload FS
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 19, 2008, 03:12:26 pm
Somehow I mistakenly put a check next to the Mac Executables on my installer. (I have Windows) How do I get it to uncheck so those files don't continue to update, and what is their name and location so I can get rid of the ones I have?
Don't know what the Mac files are exactly, but they won't cause any harm, since they won't be used unless you deliberately use them.

I'd guess they're the files on your \freespace\ folder that aren't .exes, .vps, .inis or .txts.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on May 19, 2008, 05:54:12 pm
Lobo mac files are the ones that make FS run on a ac computer. I have em on mine too and I'm running windows but I don't have any problems with the Mac files on my computer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: GTSVA on May 19, 2008, 07:06:54 pm
I think a new installer should be made (if you can) with bug free fixes and when the final 3.6.10 MediaVPS is released to ease the new players.... :D
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 20, 2008, 12:48:37 am
...the source is there.  Do you code Java?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 25, 2008, 12:28:59 pm
Lobo mac files are the ones that make FS run on a ac computer.
Thank you for that enlightening axiom. I know. I meant that I do not know the exact file names of the Mac files and therefore couldn't offer my assistance in removing them, if necessary.

I think a new installer should be made (if you can) with bug free fixes and when the final 3.6.10 MediaVPS is released to ease the new players.... :D
The Installer works. It is up to the user to know what OS he/she has and so on. And onc ethe new MediaVPs are ready, they'll be included in the download options of the Installer.

...the source is there.  Do you code Java?
No. Trust me on this one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: antonino on May 27, 2008, 04:18:23 am
Hey folks, I'm having a slight problem here.  I've recently installed Freespacee SCP on my laptop running ubuntu 7.10.  The game works fine, but when I try to use the mediavps, some hi-def models work some don't.  For instance, on the first mission, "Surrender, Belisaurius!" the models of the Myrmidons, Serapis, and Isis transports work.  The Herc MkIs work but only at about 600m--prior to that they're blank and all I can see is an engine signature and nothing shows up in the target view (lower left box).  Also, the Psamtik is not a hi-def model, it's the standard one, but the beam it fires is the redone beam for the SCP.  Any ideas on that one?  It's not a serious problem, but I'm curious.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 04:23:14 am
Assuming that you're using the 3.6.9 build, you'll need to add the -jpgtga flag to the command line.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 27, 2008, 05:38:48 am
Hey guys, it's me having a headache after totally failing to run the game...need your guy's help!

So I downloaded the game with the Freespace Open Installer and now what? Everytime I click on the launcher and then "Run", the intro appears and then the game interface, which tells me that I should pick a player. Since I just downloaded it, I have to create a new one, right? But everytime I try so, a warning pops up "Failed to save pilot file. You may be out of disk space" , which I am certainly NOT.

This is starting to give me a major pain in the ass, sooooo eager to play this :(

EDIT: Figured out how to change from Multiplayer to Singleplayer...now I actually CAN create a new player, but when I click on "select", the monitor freezes...Is it possible to play FS2 on Vista? And yes, I am a total noob:)

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 06:27:46 am
Hmm. Can you provide some more system specs? Also, where did you install FSO? My Documents and the desktop are a no-no and will cause issues, such as the inability to properly save pilot files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 27, 2008, 06:45:06 am
notebook, dual-core 2x2 Ghz, ati mobility radeon X2500, 1 GB RAM...Windows Vista :rolleyes:

direction --> C:Program Files:Freespace 2
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 06:50:17 am
K. In theory you are more than capable to run FSO, so this must be a Vista issue. Many people have played and are even now playing FSO on a Vista machine, but (un)fortunately I'm not one of them. Check back later to see if someone with more Vista experiences has come up with some ideas.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 27, 2008, 06:51:47 am
mmh, k.

Another question: Why didn't I have to install the game? I just downloaded FSO into the folder, and then ran the launcher.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 07:30:34 am
Why didn't I have to install the game? I just downloaded FSO into the folder, and then ran the launcher.
Because it works that way. You just have to get the necessary files on a computer and after that, I believe it is the Launcher that generates the necessary registry entries when it is run for the first time. And thanks to this feature, you can easily share this marvelous game with your friends. Just copy your \freespace2\ folder on a DVD, USB stick or an external HDD, take it to another computer and copy there. It's easy and saves a lot of Turey's bandwidth if people can copy the game this way, instead of everyone downloading it with the Installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 27, 2008, 08:21:34 am
This is soooo pissing me off.....imagine Jessica Alba standing in front of you....nacked....and you just can't reach her....aaaargh^^

And that doesn't even come close to the way I'm feeling about FS right now! :ick:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 27, 2008, 01:00:02 pm
I want to know what "nacked" means! ;7

Take a screenshot of your FSO folder. If you don't know how, ask.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 27, 2008, 03:29:08 pm
naked....oooops :rolleyes:

got it. but what for?^^

http://img1.bildupload.com/cad9e8b2dcfb6b51e69638ac65f6c11b.jpg
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: antonino on May 27, 2008, 03:53:36 pm
Lobo, thanks for the help, that did the trick.

However, I'm a new, more-serious, issue.  I'm running freespace 2 with mods and the mods keep crashing a few missions into them (it's happened with homesick and blueplanet) when I click the the "continue" button.  On both missions it happened on a "red-alert" mission (with no briefing or ability to select ships, weapons, etc).  The error I get is this "segmentation fault (core dumped)."  I could really use some help on this one.....
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 03:58:14 pm
Sounds like the evil red-alert bug. It can sometimes occur, and it is very much confined to 3.6.9. fs2_open_20071028 (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,50258.0.html) might do the trick.

As for Homesick, the whole thing is a pain in the arse because of those bugs. Though I haven't tested it with a 3.6.10 build yet.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: antonino on May 27, 2008, 04:03:11 pm
Not to sound like a total idiot, but...uh...what do I do with that lol?  I looks like an executable, so I placed it in my main FS2 directory and opened it in a terminal, now the entire whole game crashes and gives me a segmentation error. 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 04:04:51 pm
There was a Linux option (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/latest/taylor/20071028-linux32.tgz) in there as well, but I was hoping you'd know what to do with it, since Linux is still quite unfamiliar to me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: antonino on May 27, 2008, 04:11:13 pm
Unfortunately, it's pretty new to me as well.  Anyway, it is an executable and I can get it running, but I'm having the same problem, the mod crashes on the red-alert mission.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 27, 2008, 04:14:29 pm
Well there is a bug called the Red-Alert bug which causes unpredictable behavior on Red-Alert missions. Not much you can do.

naked....oooops :rolleyes:

got it. but what for?^^

http://img1.bildupload.com/cad9e8b2dcfb6b51e69638ac65f6c11b.jpg
Could you get all the files? Try switching to a different view.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: antonino on May 27, 2008, 05:23:16 pm
So...there's no way to fix this?  Freespace runs fine on my 5 year old desktop, but not on my new laptop?  That doesn't seem right lol.  The only way in which my desktop might be superior is in the graphics card--it has an Nvidia card while my laptop has an ATI.  Could that be the source of the problem?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 27, 2008, 05:41:37 pm
No, the bug is in the .EXE itself. It can't be fixed on your end, unless you repaired the code. Try a different build, like one of the ones in my signature.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 28, 2008, 01:13:24 am
Well there is a bug called the Red-Alert bug which causes unpredictable behavior on Red-Alert missions. Not much you can do.

naked....oooops :rolleyes:

got it. but what for?^^

http://img1.bildupload.com/cad9e8b2dcfb6b51e69638ac65f6c11b.jpg
Could you get all the files? Try switching to a different view.

In my sig, under "Post FS2 tree", there are instructions.  Try those, should work pretty darn good.  ;)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 02:36:43 am
one of the ones in my signature.
That's great but do keep in mind that the dude is using Ubuntu. And .exes aren't that handy in Linux, unless you start doing some funky WINE ****.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 28, 2008, 03:12:19 am
This "pastebin" thing isn'r working at the moment, so I will post my dir.txt here...

FS2_Open_Launcher_2.0.1.dmg ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\FS2_Open_Launcher_2.0.1.dmg does not exists.
launcher6.ini ERROR: Checksum did not match.
cardinalspear\fsport-cardinalspear-voice.vp ERROR: Checksum did not match.
data\freddocs\Thumbs.db ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\data\freddocs\Thumbs.db does not exists.
FS2Demo\fs2demo.bmp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\FS2Demo\fs2demo.bmp does not exists.
FS2Demo\FS2Demo.vp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\FS2Demo\FS2Demo.vp does not exists.
FS2Demo\mod.ini ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\FS2Demo\mod.ini does not exists.
JAD\JAD2_EB.vp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\JAD2_EB.vp does not exists.
JAD\JAD3_SoaP.vp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\JAD3_SoaP.vp does not exists.
JAD\JAD3_SoaP_Xtra.vp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\JAD3_SoaP_Xtra.vp does not exists.
JAD\JADLogo.bmp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\JADLogo.bmp does not exists.
JAD\JAD_SE.vp ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\JAD_SE.vp does not exists.
JAD\mod.ini ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\mod.ini does not exists.
JAD\README_JAD1.txt ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\README_JAD1.txt does not exists.
JAD\README_JAD2.txt ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\JAD\README_JAD2.txt does not exists.
Tools\MODVIW32\modviw32.exe ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Tools\MODVIW32\Thumbs.db ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\Tools\MODVIW32\Thumbs.db does not exists.
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\_setup2.reg ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Tools\_STIF\Shell\ANIBLD32.REG ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\Tools\_STIF\Shell\ANIBLD32.REG does not exists.
Tools\_STIF\Shell\ANIVIW32.REG ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\Tools\_STIF\Shell\ANIVIW32.REG does not exists.
Tools\_STIF\stif.ini ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\Tools\_STIF\stif.ini does not exists.
Tools\_STIF\_Temp\HINSTALL.INF ERROR: C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\Tools\_STIF\_Temp\HINSTALL.INF does not exists.
Installer\core_files.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\dmtools.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\filenames.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\fsport.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\installedversions.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\launcher_info.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\multi.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
Installer\retail.txt ERROR: Checksum did not match.
awakenings\readme.txt OK
cardinalspear\CardinalSpear.bmp OK
fred2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe OK
cardinalspear\fsport-cardinalspear.vp OK
cardinalspear\mod.ini OK
cardinalspear\readme.txt OK
data\freddocs\3d-compass.gif OK
data\freddocs\add-variable.gif OK
data\freddocs\additional-ship-properties.gif OK
data\freddocs\adjust-grid-dialog.gif OK
data\freddocs\arrival-and-departure-cues.gif OK
data\freddocs\asteroid-field-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\axis-constraints.gif OK
data\freddocs\background-editor-bitmaps.gif OK
data\freddocs\background-editor-misc.gif OK
data\freddocs\background-editor-nebula.gif OK
data\freddocs\background-editor-suns.gif OK
data\freddocs\briefing-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\briefing-icons.gif OK
data\freddocs\campaign-diagram.gif OK
data\freddocs\campaign-editor-controls.gif OK
data\freddocs\cartesian.gif OK
data\freddocs\command-briefing-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\concepts.html OK
data\freddocs\cruiser-adjustments.gif OK
data\freddocs\debriefing-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\distances-example.gif OK
data\freddocs\edit-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\editors.html OK
data\freddocs\empty-selection-box.gif OK
data\freddocs\emptymsg.wav OK
data\freddocs\events-editor-events.gif OK
data\freddocs\events-editor-messages.gif OK
data\freddocs\file-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\force-1-arrival-true.gif OK
data\freddocs\force-1-arrival.gif OK
data\freddocs\form-disband-wing.gif OK
data\freddocs\FRED2-opening.gif OK
data\freddocs\fred2.css OK
data\freddocs\general.html OK
data\freddocs\groups-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\help-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\index-no-really.html OK
data\freddocs\index.html OK
data\freddocs\initial-orders.gif OK
data\freddocs\initial-status-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\internet.html OK
data\freddocs\junk.html OK
data\freddocs\marking.gif OK
data\freddocs\menus.html OK
data\freddocs\misc-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\mission-objectives-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\mission-specs-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\mouse-drag-mode.gif OK
data\freddocs\msgend.wav OK
data\freddocs\msgstart.wav OK
data\freddocs\nacbkg1.gif OK
data\freddocs\nacmenu1.gif OK
data\freddocs\nactitle1.jpg OK
data\freddocs\not-incomplete.gif OK
data\freddocs\nyarlathotep-after.gif OK
data\freddocs\nyarlathotep-before.gif OK
data\freddocs\objects-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\pelican-departure.gif OK
data\freddocs\player-orders.gif OK
data\freddocs\pomotep-initial-status.gif OK
data\freddocs\pomotep-intercepting.gif OK
data\freddocs\primary-goal.gif OK
data\freddocs\quickstart-placement.gif OK
data\freddocs\quickstart.html OK
data\freddocs\reinforcements-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\relentless-boarded.gif OK
data\freddocs\relentless-chained.gif OK
data\freddocs\relentless-departure.gif OK
data\freddocs\relentless-outcomes.gif OK
data\freddocs\relentless-pulling-out.gif OK
data\freddocs\ring-trick.gif OK
data\freddocs\rotate-around-object.gif OK
data\freddocs\rotate-locally-example.gif OK
data\freddocs\rotate-locally.gif OK
data\freddocs\select-list.gif OK
data\freddocs\selection-box.gif OK
data\freddocs\selection-lock.gif OK
data\freddocs\send-message.gif OK
data\freddocs\sexp-compressed.gif OK
data\freddocs\sexp-example-2.gif OK
data\freddocs\sexp-example.gif OK
data\freddocs\sexp-help.gif OK
data\freddocs\sexp-right-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\SEXP.html OK
data\freddocs\shield-system-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\ship-selection-dialog.gif OK
data\freddocs\ships-editor-main-area.gif OK
data\freddocs\shipyard-completed.fs2 OK
data\freddocs\shipyard.gif OK
data\freddocs\show-distances.gif OK
data\freddocs\sleipner-1-done.gif OK
data\freddocs\sleipner-2-going-in.gif OK
data\freddocs\sleipner-directives.gif OK
data\freddocs\special-explosion.gif OK
data\freddocs\speed-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\status-bar.gif OK
data\freddocs\team-loadout-editor.gif OK
FreeSpace2.exe OK
data\freddocs\too-close.gif OK
data\freddocs\toolbar-form-wing.gif OK
data\freddocs\toolbar.html OK
data\freddocs\vasudantalk.wav OK
data\freddocs\view-menu.gif OK
data\freddocs\vssver.scc OK
data\freddocs\walkthrough.html OK
data\freddocs\waypoint-paths-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\weapons-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\wing-positions.gif OK
data\freddocs\wings-editor.gif OK
data\freddocs\zoom.gif OK
data\fs2open_pxo.cfg OK
derelict\Derelict.bmp OK
derelict\DerelictSCP.vp OK
derelict\DerelictSCP1.vp OK
derelict\DerelictSCP2.vp OK
derelict\DerelictSCP3.vp OK
derelict\DerelictSCP4.vp OK
derelict\mod.ini OK
derelict\readme.txt OK
destinyofpeace\fsport-destinyofpeace-voice.vp OK
destinyofpeace\fsport-destinyofpeace.vp OK
destinyofpeace\mandalaprime.vp OK
destinyofpeace\mod.ini OK
destinyofpeace\readme.txt OK
DeusExMachina\DEM.vp OK
DeusExMachina\readme.txt OK
FS2.exe OK
FS2_Open-3.6.9.dmg OK
fs2_open_3_6_9.exe OK
fsport\FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp OK
fsport\fsport-fs1_training.vp OK
fsport\fsport-glow.vp OK
fsport\fsport-hi_res.vp OK
fsport\fsport-missions.vp OK
fsport\fsport-shine.vp OK
fsport\fsport3_0_4.vp OK
fsport\mod.ini OK
fsport\readme.txt OK
fsport\sparky_hi_fs1.vp OK
fsport\stu_fs1.vp OK
fsport\tango_fs1.vp OK
fsport\warble_fs1.vp OK
homesick\Homesick.vp OK
homesick\HomesickReadme.txt OK
fs2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe OK
FRED2.exe OK
FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp OK
fso369-x86.tar.gz OK
fso369-x86_64.tar.gz OK
Launcher.exe OK
fred2_open_3_6_9.exe OK
multi-mission-pack.vp OK
mediavps\data\fs2open_pxo.cfg OK
mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp OK
mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp OK
mediavps\mp-710_models.vp OK
mediavps\mv_adveffects.vp OK
mediavps\mv_core.vp OK
mediavps\mv_effects.vp OK
mediavps\mv_models.vp OK
mediavps\mv_music.vp OK
mediavps\mv_textures.vp OK
mediavps\readme.txt OK
Sync\mod.ini OK
Sync\Sync.vp OK
Sync\Synclogo.bmp OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\ANIBLD32.exe OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\ANIBLD32.INI OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\dm_modul.dat OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\dm_tools.dll OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\History.txt OK
Tools\ANIBLD32\ReadMe.txt OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\ANIVIW32.exe OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\ANIVIW32.INI OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\dm_modul.dat OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\dm_tools.dll OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\History.txt OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\ImgDLL.dll OK
Tools\ANIVIW32\ReadMe.txt OK
Tools\MODVIW32\D2Pal.dat OK
Tools\MODVIW32\D2Poly.dat OK
Tools\MODVIW32\dm_modul.dat OK
Tools\MODVIW32\dm_tools.dll OK
Tools\MODVIW32\History.txt OK
Tools\MODVIW32\ht_error.gif OK
Tools\MODVIW32\ht_logo.jpg OK
Tools\MODVIW32\modviw32.dir OK
multi-voice-pack.vp OK
Tools\MODVIW32\modviw32.exe.manifest OK
Tools\MODVIW32\ReadMe.txt OK
patchw32.dll OK
Tools\MODVIW32\_setup.reg OK
Tools\MODVIW32\_setup.ver OK
Tools\VPMAGE\VPMage.exe OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\dm_modul.dat OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\dm_tools.dll OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\History.txt OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\ReadMe.txt OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\tblviw32l.exe OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\tblviw32l.exe.manifest OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\vpview32_20.exe OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\vpview32_20.exe.manifest OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\xstr_rf1.dat OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\_setup.reg OK
Tools\VPVIEW32_20\_setup.ver OK
root_fs2.vp OK
smarty_fs2.vp OK
sparky_fs2.vp OK
sparky_hi_fs2.vp OK
stu_fs2.vp OK
Transcend\data\missions\TransE1M1.fs2 OK
Transcend\data\movies\ending.avi OK
Transcend\mod.ini OK
Transcend\Patch.vp OK
Transcend\ReadTheReadme.txt OK
Transcend\Transcend.bmp OK
Transcend\Transcend.vp OK
Installer\axem.txt OK
tango1_fs2.vp OK
Installer\cutscene.txt OK
Installer\dem.txt OK
tango2_fs2.vp OK
Installer\endnote.txt OK
tango3_fs2.vp OK
UpdateLauncher.exe OK
Installer\homesick.txt OK
warble_fs2.vp OK
awakenings\fsport-awakenings-voice.vp OK
awakenings\fsport-awakenings.vp OK
Installer\mv.txt OK
Installer\ransomarceihn.txt OK
Installer\razorskiss.txt OK
awakenings\mod.ini OK
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 03:28:10 am
Hmm. That "Checksum did not match" doesn't sound very good. Try moving launcher6.ini away from the \freespace\ folder.

Also, I'm not absolutely sure but I have a feeling that the adveffects might be a bit too much on your rig, so you might want to move mv_adveffects.vp and mv_adveffects.vp away from the \mediavps\ folder.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 28, 2008, 05:17:24 am
Both options din't work... :ick:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 05:27:08 am
Damn. Well, the latter wasn't even related to the issue. I just wanted to give a heads-up that once you get the game running, the adveffects might very well make your 'puter scream in pain. So it is probably good to keep them away for now. Besides, the game looks really pretty even without them.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 28, 2008, 05:29:57 am
once you get the game running....

Yeah, go on torturing me^^
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 05:39:20 am
Now now. You'll get it running eventually. But this is painful to me as well. I always get sad when there's a new guy who has an issue that prevents him/her from playing FSO.

Ideas are running out and even this one is a long shot. Sometimes the game can freeze at the beginning, because the firewall decides to give a popup explaining that the FSO executable is trying to connect to the web. This effectively clogs up the game, since it cannot do anything before the firewall's question is answered and you cannot answer it because the game is on top of it. Though usually this happens during the slpash screen (at least on my computer). There are two methods for countering this issue:

1. run the game in windowed mode (on the Launcher's Features tab, select Run in window from the Dev Tool list).

2. Manually add the FSO executable (most likely fs2_open_3_6_9.exe) on the firewall's rule list.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 28, 2008, 05:57:41 am
1. doesn't even run in window, even though I clicked on it.....weird.
2. doesn't work...

and it's not a vista-related problem, I think. Recently played this Btrl-standalone, but it sucked. That's how I came to search for vanilla FS.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 06:02:43 am
and it's not a vista-related problem, I think.
What makes you think that? This sounds like a unique error, and unique errors have a habit of appearing with Vista.

Since you've tried to run the game again, tell me. What does launcher6.ini say?

Recently played this Btrl-standalone, but it sucked.
My my. That's a little harsh. Why did it suck?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Wobble73 on May 28, 2008, 06:23:39 am
Why is there a mod.ini file in his root directory?

one of the ones in my signature.
That's great but do keep in mind that the dude is using Ubuntu. And .exes aren't that handy in Linux, unless you start doing some funky WINE ****.

and is he using Ubuntu or Vista?  :confused: :nervous:

1. doesn't even run in window, even though I clicked on it.....weird.
2. doesn't work...

and it's not a vista-related problem, I think. Recently played this Btrl-standalone, but it sucked. That's how I came to search for vanilla FS.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 28, 2008, 06:28:32 am
Why is there a mod.ini file in his root directory?
It's one of those new experiments. It came with the Installer and the purpose is that, if the player selects No MOD with the Launcher, there's a description saying that he is now playing vanilla FS2 and in order to get the prettier FS2, mediavps must be selected as a mod.

and is he using Ubuntu or Vista?  :confused: :nervous:
That comment referred to antonino. He is a different case and he is using Ubuntu. Oke has Vista.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Wobble73 on May 28, 2008, 06:34:17 am
Ah right! The German file names threw me a bit, I thought he may be using Linux with some kind of theme to make it look like Vista :lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 28, 2008, 09:46:31 am
Why would I do THAT? :lol:

Anyway, as soon as I move launcher.ini away from my FSO folder, a warning pops up that the launcher can't be started if it is not situated within the FSO folder...or at least within the folder where the .exe is....

So I moved both the launcher and the FSO .exe...didn't work. Just a black monitor...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 28, 2008, 01:05:36 pm
Run the installer again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 29, 2008, 01:58:21 am
didn'tw work. And I only downloaded the crucial files here this time...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on May 29, 2008, 08:12:35 am
I have an idea.  Make sure you have a \FreeSpace2\data\players\single directory.  If not, create it (also create the \players directory if it doesn't exist, then create \single under it) and try again.  Does this work? 
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: DarkShadow on May 29, 2008, 10:37:34 am
Thanks for the Installer it work great for me and made installing much easier.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 29, 2008, 01:15:41 pm
@ jr2: I have that directory. I could even create a player. But when I click on "select" ingame, it just freezes...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 29, 2008, 01:17:23 pm
There are times of despair. And I guess this counts as such. Have you tried creating a new pilot? Can't hurt to try.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 29, 2008, 01:33:29 pm
Delete the players folder after you try Lobo's tip, if his doesn't work. Then try again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 29, 2008, 02:01:56 pm
didn't work...I am currently downloading it under bittorrent, may be that will help....
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 29, 2008, 05:25:31 pm
No, it won't all the BitTorrent packs are severely outdated, especially the ShivanSpS one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 30, 2008, 02:07:01 am
Aye. And let's revise one thing: this issue is not the game's fault. It's Vista's fault. Don't blame FreeSpace if you can't get it running. Blame Vista for not allowing you to run FreeSpace.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Wobble73 on May 30, 2008, 03:46:46 am
Have you tried setting the processor affinity to use just of your dual core processor's (CTRL ALT DELETE to bring up your task manager while the game is running, go processors, right click on the FSOpen exe etc.)

Worth a try if not, it may help it may not?  :nervous:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 30, 2008, 03:48:37 am
I thought that using multiple cores would only cause some slowdowns, nothing more. Then again, with computers you can never know. Worth a try, I guess.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 30, 2008, 05:41:10 am
It didn't work...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 30, 2008, 05:42:28 am
No, it won't all the BitTorrent packs are severely outdated, especially the ShivanSpS one.

Guess which one I'm loading.... :mad:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on May 30, 2008, 05:45:13 am
Oke. I need a debug log. You can get me one by running the debug exe file in your FS2 folder. Once it crashes you'll be left with a file called FS2_Open.log. Post a copy of that here for me. If you have a copy of FS2_Open 3.6.10 debug run that instead of 3.6.9 as it gives me even more useful information.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 30, 2008, 06:25:44 am
where do I find this file?

there is something called "errorlog" in my FSO-folder, did you mean that?

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 30, 2008, 07:50:13 am
If you've run the debug build, there is a file called fs2_open.log in the \Freespace 2\data\ folder. Post that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 30, 2008, 08:39:18 am
mmkay...found it.

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 30, 2008, 08:57:26 am
Found the problem. You can, under no circumstances, have spaces in folder names.

And I'm no expert, but since it stops at compiling the shader, that's where your problem lies.

And you're missing some .DLLs and other files. Re-run the installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on May 30, 2008, 11:15:46 am
And afterwards? What do I have to do different this time? Just name the folder differently, for example "freespace2" instead of "freespace 2"?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 30, 2008, 11:17:00 am
Yes. Then we'll see what happens. Hopefully nothing evil.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on May 30, 2008, 11:47:13 am
The problem with spaces was fixed before 3.6.9 was released.

I can't remember what the command line to turn off shaders is but someone else will. Add that and try again.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 30, 2008, 05:10:39 pm
-no_glsl?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on June 01, 2008, 01:59:36 pm
okay, finally finished with the torrent files, and IT WORKED...I CAN launch the game now...but when I try to start a campaign, the game tells me to "insert CD 2" :shaking:

So....no-cd crack, anyone?^^
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 01, 2008, 02:10:52 pm
Now that you mentioned it, you could have downloaded the Home of the Underdogs version of FS2, since it would have at least allowed you to play the FS2 main campaign without issues. Oh well...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 01, 2008, 02:15:41 pm
Which torrent?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: karajorma on June 01, 2008, 03:48:09 pm
The HotU crack is on my FAQ's download page.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Oke on June 01, 2008, 04:35:17 pm
thanks for your help everyone!

unfortunately, I didn't like it at all^^ so good bye and thanks for all the fish:P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 01, 2008, 06:05:25 pm
The training missions are boring, but once you get past them it's fun.

That was a letdown.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 04, 2008, 11:26:08 pm
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAARG

I ARISE FROM THE DEAD!!!

Sorry about being gone for the past couple months, I was overwhelmed by the horror known as Calc 4, and I needed to stay off HLP until my grade in the class was decided.

Now that it's decided (I failed, I'll re-take next quarter), I'm back.

If anyone's still having problems, could you re-post? I can't figure out whose problems have been fixed and whose haven't.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 05, 2008, 01:17:04 pm
No problems with the installer itself, just n00bs missing OpenAL and the like.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Febo on June 07, 2008, 09:50:39 am
Are there any other good mods that can be combined with installer that wont mess up the files (beside those that come with installer)?
Maybe "Inferno" or "The Babylon Project"?

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 07, 2008, 09:54:11 am
It's best to keep TBP away from the Installer. It is a standalone after all. It works completely without the original FS2, hmm.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 07, 2008, 09:55:17 am
Yeah. And INFR1 is quite low-quality, except for the ships.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on June 09, 2008, 03:22:49 pm
There's a couple more campaigns I want to add to the Installer, but I'll have to wait a week or two. I'm right in the middle of finals.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on June 09, 2008, 05:36:43 pm
Okay, I can't find an installer in the openal download folder, and I'm not that good with computers. How do I install it?
You were searching from the OpenAL site? Aye, it can be a bit unclear. There is a link to the installer in my signature. It's the same installer, just hosted elsewhere.

Just download the installer, run it and click Next/Yes/always the most positive option until it informs you that OpenAL has been installed, hmm.

Why can't your Installer fetch that?  Can't one of the hosts just host the latest version?  Or is that illegal?  If so, could you have it download straight from the Creative site?  Just put it under "OpenAL for Windows" or something.  You might even want to make links for the Mac and Linux (source?) versions, IDK.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on June 09, 2008, 07:53:33 pm
It's open-source, so it shouldn't be illegal.
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Post by: karajorma on June 10, 2008, 02:29:05 am
The main reason for not hosting\having a direct download is simple. It's one more thing to keep updated.

It does not look good to be pointing at a 3-4 month old OpenAL download.
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Post by: Febo on June 10, 2008, 09:12:02 am
I have a problem.
I installed retail Freespace 2 and then installer. It worked just fine so I burned the whole installation directory on dvd.
I wanted to verify that it works so I deleted the game from hard disc and then copy/paste it from dvd.
I chose "mediavps" mod and set all the features for the best graphics. And it works fine except for the background (stars, planets..).The background is like in retail version. There should be greater number o stars and better background texture, but there isn't (for example on first mission).
And also, Hercules fighters and Deimos corvettes doesn't appear  in target monitor when i lock on them.
So what's the problem?
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Post by: Febo on June 10, 2008, 09:23:45 am
Ops. Sorry, the background works fine but there's still target monitor problem
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Post by: Jeff Vader on June 10, 2008, 09:32:29 am
Plaay in OpenGL, not Direct3D. Enable jpg/tga textures.
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Post by: Febo on June 10, 2008, 09:44:32 am
Thx.  :yes:   The jpg/tga textures were the problem
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Post by: Jeff Vader on June 10, 2008, 09:45:52 am
Thought so. It's good to get it fixed now. Otherwise you would have been in deep **** on the first "Escort big ship through asteroid field" mission, hmm.
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Post by: highwayman on June 10, 2008, 10:18:08 am
I am super pumped to have found this site and your installer. I was a huge fan of Freespace 1 & 2 when they came out and spent hours and hours playing and replaying the campaigns. Last night I was thinking of games to play (my love of WoW has finally begun to wane after 3 years) and I fondly recalled Freespace. Couple of google searches and here I am, and I'm super psyched to see that the game has been improved upon and expanded to such an extent - definitely look forward to trying the various mods and community designed campaigns. I plan on getting this installed soon and trying it out, and I'm sure I'll have some questions or need help. Thanks in advance and thanks for hosting the installer and all of this (presumably) fantastic content!

Cheers!
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Post by: GTSVA on June 14, 2008, 11:18:53 am
:welcomeblue:

Glad to have you on board. Once you are familiar with the site and gaming, we (I hope) look forward to see you in our multiplayer area.  :D

Any problems? Just post them here and we will all try to help you! ;)
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Post by: highwayman on June 17, 2008, 10:53:07 am
:welcomeblue:

Glad to have you on board. Once you are familiar with the site and gaming, we (I hope) look forward to see you in our multiplayer area.  :D

Any problems? Just post them here and we will all try to help you! ;)

Thanks, I used the installer and have everything working (I had no sound at first, but I fixed that by getting Open AL), now I'm just waiting for my new joystick to show up (tried playing with a mouse, but it wasn't doing it for me) and I'll be in business. Probably going to focus on solo play at first to get my combat chops back, but after that, I'll definitely be interested in some multiplayer.

But man, watching that opening cinematic for the FSOne port brought me back. Such great games. Really looking forward to trying out some of the community-created campaigns too.
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Post by: GTSVA on June 17, 2008, 12:43:28 pm
Good luck!!!
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Post by: colecampbell666 on June 17, 2008, 12:51:18 pm
Try Derelict, Inferno Alliance, Blue Planet, Homesick, Shivans, Into the Depths of Hell...

As for multiplayer, check the link in my signature.
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Post by: IronForge on June 20, 2008, 02:30:28 am
One question... can I DL it over several days or do I have to install everything in one shot?
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Post by: Fenrir on June 20, 2008, 02:58:33 am
You can install it in as many segments as you like. It won`t overwrite the existing files but will only DL the ones you haven`t got yet.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 09:53:47 am
:welcomered:

If you get halfway through downloading a big file, however, it will have to download that whole file again, but otherwise, yes.
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Post by: Nemesis6 on June 27, 2008, 09:07:00 am
What's the deal with the mods included with FSO? Half of them just work, half of them are missing ships when I try them out, like the FS1 port. What's the deal here?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on June 27, 2008, 09:10:58 am
Could you be more specific?
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Post by: Nemesis6 on June 27, 2008, 09:12:49 am
For example I try out the FSport mod folder, it loads up, intro cutscenes and all, but when I start the campaign, I'm informed that I'm missing 30 ships and loading of the campaign was aborted. Sounds like I'm missing some kind of expansion.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on June 27, 2008, 09:14:46 am
Ah, now I get it. In addition to selecting a mod folder, do remember to select the proper campaign from the Campaign Room in-game. You've probably been trying to play the FS2 campaign while using the FSPort as a mod.
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Post by: Meke on June 29, 2008, 10:53:44 am
Hi all, thanks for the program, I have some questions.
My biggest problem is that the ships dont have skin they have just lines in them how can I fix this?
How to invert mouse control moviments?(Didnt saw it anywhere on Options)
What options in the launcher should I enable to get the best out of the game in terms of graphics?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on June 29, 2008, 10:56:33 am
My biggest problem is that the ships dont have skin they have just lines in them how can I fix this?
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53110.0.html

What options in the launcher should I enable to get the best out of the game in terms of graphics?
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53294.0.html
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Post by: jr2 on July 01, 2008, 03:14:12 am

How to invert mouse control moviments?(Didnt saw it anywhere on Options)


On the bottom, on the left side (I think) there is a switch labeled "Invert" - it's easy to miss.  Turn it on.  ;)  (This would be in the section where you can change keys assigned to movements - go to the Pitch U/D or equivalent setting, select it, then enable "Invert")
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Post by: Wobble73 on July 01, 2008, 04:15:20 am

How to invert mouse control moviments?(Didnt saw it anywhere on Options)


On the bottom, on the left side (I think) there is a switch labeled "Invert" - it's easy to miss.  Turn it on.  ;)  (This would be in the section where you can change keys assigned to movements - go to the Pitch U/D or equivalent setting, select it, then enable "Invert")

*Note*  These are in-game options and not launcher options (Press F2 in-game and click on "ship" at the bottom of the screen).  :nod:
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Post by: GruntOfAction on July 01, 2008, 09:46:56 am
I just downloaded the installer, it says it includes a retail version of Freespace 2, AKA everything to start playing it, but I don't see any Freespace 2 .exe in the zip file..
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 01, 2008, 03:44:00 pm
I just downloaded the installer, it says it includes a retail version of Freespace 2, AKA everything to start playing it, but I don't see any Freespace 2 .exe in the zip file..
:wtf: Just run it and tell us when it has finished.
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Post by: GruntOfAction on July 01, 2008, 05:02:04 pm
I just downloaded the installer, it says it includes a retail version of Freespace 2, AKA everything to start playing it, but I don't see any Freespace 2 .exe in the zip file..
:wtf: Just run it and tell us when it has finished.

Alright I see it downloads them..It just finished, but I didn't have a Freespace 2 folder so I put them in this other one..then when I ran it it said "Freespace 2 cannot be run in a root directory!" and doesn't work.. Should I move all the contents of the folder into one of that path?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 02, 2008, 02:39:41 am
I seem to have lost track of what you've been doing. So,

1. Where did you install FSO?
2. Don't try to have it in My Documents or the desktop. That will effectively cause those kinds of errors. If you have FSO in My Documents or the desktop, move it, for example, to C:\games\freespace2.

Und keine eier. And do remember to use Launcher.exe. Only. FS2.exe and Freespace2.exe are the retail files and using them is sort of pointless. Unless you specifically want to play retail. And directly using the FSO builds isn't really necessary. Launcher.exe is quite enough for everything. Except FREDing.
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Post by: Norty on July 02, 2008, 01:07:55 pm
I also had a problem with the installer.

I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE3.5 variant) and I checked the Linux 32-bit option (plus FS2 retail, FreeSpace Port and a few 3rd party campaigns). The installer downloaded a tarball called fso369-x86.tar.gz but it was only 918 bytes in size and obviously had nothing in it (the file refused to open anyway).

Where's the 3.6.9 binary (shell script/whatever) for Linux? I don't want to use WINE to run FreeSpace exes!
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 02, 2008, 01:11:08 pm
Would this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44374.0.html) help?
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Post by: Norty on July 02, 2008, 01:36:59 pm
Would this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44374.0.html) help?

I downloaded the 3.6.9 Final Linux file, ran it, and installed into the directory that I had the previous installer create.

It run (which is great) but it only sees the FS2 campaign, and not the others I added. Any ideas?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 02, 2008, 01:53:08 pm
It run (which is great) but it only sees the FS2 campaign, and not the others I added. Any ideas?
Us Windows *****es have the Launcher, which we can use to easily apply all sorts of settings, as well control mods. With Linux, you'll need to fiddle around with command-lines. There is an article on the FreeSpace Wiki, which you might want to read. But as for the other mods and campaigns that you've downloaded with the Installer, you'll need to use the command-line parameter -mod <mod folder name>. For example, if you want to play FSPort, you'll add the following command-line parameter:

-mod fsport

You can also enter several mod folders, separated with commas. And if you downloaded the MediaVPs, you'll surely want to include it with all the other mods. So, you might actually want to add the following:

-mod fsport,mediavps

Note that selecting the mod folder is not enough, but you must also remember to select the appropriate campaign from the Campaign Room in-game.
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Post by: Norty on July 02, 2008, 02:15:45 pm
Got it, it works now, thanks!
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Post by: cloneof on July 07, 2008, 05:45:11 pm
When I used this paritcular installer all the ships are jail like white black boxes and from far completely invisible only to be seen by my sensors.

Anyway of countering this new Shivan/NTF technology that by now has decimated the GTVA fleet?
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Post by: colecampbell666 on July 07, 2008, 08:38:21 pm
Download the latest drivers for your Graphics card, at either ATi.com or nVidia.com depending on the type.
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Post by: Blinky on July 10, 2008, 03:45:33 am
Hi guys,

A few months ago I installed DosBox in order to play good old X-Wing and Wing Commander again. Then I thought there has to be something more recent than that. After all these games are almost 20 years old. :P I am not talking about graphics, of course there is better stuff now. I am talking about innovational stories, well designed missions and fascinating plots, well, a well balanced space sim that is. So I started looking. First I found the Privateer Remake and the Vegastrike Engine. Which is nice, I liked the original Privateer a lot, and it was fun to fly some new ships. But there is no huge WWWOOOWWW-effect. Which I had, when I arrived here :D (via The Babylon Project):
Wow, what a huge community!
Wow, so many downloadable campaigns!
Wow, there must be literally millions of hours of work put in here!
Wow, what a variety and quality of missions!
And finally: Wow, they even do have really nice graphics (without needing highend video cards)!

So yesterday I downloaded the installer, ran it, and everything worked out fine. Nice work, Turey, thanks! :)
So far i only have two questions...

1) What are the fs2_open_3_6_9 and the fs2_open_3_6_10 doing there? Don't I just need one of them? And which one?
2) I have seen different proposals for the ambient_factor: 0? 50? 75? Now what? :confused:

...and one suggestion:

1) A link to or a merger with this topic -> http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html in the first post of this thread. Not concerning the installation itself, but it helps newbies like me to understand the launcher and its options.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 10, 2008, 04:18:10 am
1) What are the fs2_open_3_6_9 and the fs2_open_3_6_10 doing there? Don't I just need one of them? And which one?
Since it is an open source project, the game engine is updated all the time and by numerous people. Therefore there are several builds. 3.6.9 is the latest "official" build, but 3.6.10 builds have significant improvements over 3.6.9. So, you might as well use the 3.6.10 that comes with the Installer. Or check the Recent builds board for any newer ones.

2) I have seen different proposals for the ambient_factor: 0? 50? 75? Now what? :confused:
Really a matter of preference. Try different values and discover the right one for yourself.
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Post by: Blinky on July 10, 2008, 05:33:36 am
Since it is an open source project, the game engine is updated all the time and by numerous people. Therefore there are several builds. 3.6.9 is the latest "official" build, but 3.6.10 builds have significant improvements over 3.6.9. So, you might as well use the 3.6.10 that comes with the Installer. Or check the Recent builds board for any newer ones.
Ok, what about the media VP 3.6.10 betas? Am I right that they do not come with the installer? But a 3.6.10 build does. Although I read somewhere, that the progress with the media VPs is quite a bit further than with the 3.6.10 exe. Or is that old info?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 10, 2008, 06:00:03 am
The Installer downloads the 3.6.8 Zetas, which are the latest official release. The 3.6.10's have been out for a while, but they're still in Beta and contain certain issues. Nothing killer, but some annoyances. The release thread is on the FreeSpace Upgrade Project board.

Not sure of how to compare the builds and the MediaVPs. But it's pretty much so that new builds pop up quite frequently, whereas MediaVPs are released somwhat rarely. Of course, people might do work on improving textures and such but it takes time to bugfix everything and compile them into one big release.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on July 13, 2008, 08:25:43 pm
One thing Turey, you might want to update the 3.6.10 build in the installer, the kara build in my sig is very stable, with voice etc. 1007 is way too old.
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Post by: badgers on July 16, 2008, 04:05:34 pm
I just made an account here to say..

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!

Just found out about this Freespace project thingy and its so amazing, the nostalgia is just :D

MANY thanks to all who have worked on this stuff :)
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 16, 2008, 04:12:35 pm
Welcome aboard, my good man. If you have problems, just search the forums, read the stickied threads, read Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ and so on. If you can't find an answer, do ask.
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Post by: GTSVA on July 16, 2008, 04:13:27 pm
I just made an account here to say..

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!

Just found out about this Freespace project thingy and its so amazing, the nostalgia is just :D

MANY thanks to all who have worked on this stuff :)

I was about to say that...>.> XDD Nonetheless WELCOME!
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Post by: colecampbell666 on July 16, 2008, 07:56:02 pm
:welcomeorange:
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Post by: Turey on July 20, 2008, 01:37:59 pm
One thing Turey, you might want to update the 3.6.10 build in the installer, the kara build in my sig is very stable, with voice etc. 1007 is way too old.

Done.
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Post by: Joe 2987 on July 26, 2008, 08:55:07 pm
I have a question about this: Is this illegal to download or has the maker released this for free? I have wanted this game, but I can't buy it and if it is legal to get it here, I want it. If it's not... I can't have it.
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Post by: GTSVA on July 26, 2008, 09:31:39 pm
I have a question about this: Is this illegal to download or has the maker released this for free? I have wanted this game, but I can't buy it and if it is legal to get it here, I want it. If it's not... I can't have it.

I think it's legal!  :D :D :D   

Welcome aboard teh forums!
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 26, 2008, 11:52:20 pm
I have a question about this: Is this illegal to download or has the maker released this for free? I have wanted this game, but I can't buy it and if it is legal to get it here, I want it. If it's not... I can't have it.

I think it's legal!
Well, actually... only the game engine has turned open-source. And even it doesn't count as freeware. So, technically downloading FreeSpace 2 (even with Turey's Installer) is illegal. But there are more severe crimes than downloading a ninie-year-old game that seems to no longer be an item of interest for the publisher.

So, just knock yourself out. Download. Play. Enjoy. Ask for help if necessary. The Installer is here so that people would use it.
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Post by: GTSVA on July 27, 2008, 03:41:21 pm
I have a question about this: Is this illegal to download or has the maker released this for free? I have wanted this game, but I can't buy it and if it is legal to get it here, I want it. If it's not... I can't have it.

I think it's legal!
Well, actually... only the game engine has turned open-source. And even it doesn't count as freeware. So, technically downloading FreeSpace 2 (even with Turey's Installer) is illegal. But there are more severe crimes than downloading a ninie-year-old game that seems to no longer be an item of interest for the publisher.

So, just knock yourself out. Download. Play. Enjoy. Ask for help if necessary. The Installer is here so that people would use it.

Woops...my mistake!  :o :sigh:
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Post by: jr2 on July 28, 2008, 11:55:48 am
Yeah... basically, you're not stealing and "money" from Interplay, this game no longer makes them money, AFAIK.  You could prolly get it for like $80 off of eBay (they [sellers] know they have you in a corner).
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Post by: GTSVA on July 28, 2008, 12:03:05 pm
Yeah... basically, you're not stealing and "money" from Interplay, this game no longer makes them money, AFAIK.  You could prolly get it for like $80 off of eBay (they [sellers] know they have you in a corner).

So you're saying the sellers know that the game isn't in production anymore and for the people who want to own a copy would pay anything to get it?
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Post by: jr2 on July 28, 2008, 12:03:55 pm
Pretty much.  Why else would FreeSpace 2 be found for $80?  You can find it cheaper, but the $80 copies still sell, IIRC.  xP
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Post by: colecampbell666 on July 28, 2008, 05:42:18 pm
I got it for 55$.
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Post by: GTSVA on July 28, 2008, 07:05:45 pm
I got it for 55$.

I don't have it.... :doubt: :rolleyes:
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Post by: Jeff Vader on July 29, 2008, 07:38:17 am
I got it for 55$.
I don't have it...
Neither do I.
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Post by: Ajguy on August 13, 2008, 03:21:25 am
I'm having some trouble with the FSO installer and I'm hoping someone can help. When I click next on the screen that asks "Update Installed Sections Only" and "Say Yes To All", the installed just reaches a blank screen. Next is greyed out, but I can still click previous to go back to the aforementioned screen. I'm running on Windows Vista 32bit. Same problem with the exe and java versions of the installer. If it's any help, here's what installer_error.log.txt gave me:
Code: [Select]
java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://users.otenet.gr/~mecos/Development/Objc/filez/FS2_Open_Launcher/launcher_info.txt
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.NullPointerException
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Void.<unknown>(Unknown Source)

Thanks in advance if you can help me out. I just acquired a Saitek X52 joystiq set and I'm dying to try it out with this game.
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Post by: [DW]-Hunter on August 13, 2008, 03:28:34 am
What files do you need... I have access to everything the installer downloads.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2008, 03:33:06 am
Have you consulted the manual (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47045.0.html)? Haven't used the Installer myself, but I'd guess the "Update installed sections only" should not be ticked, if you are trying to actually install FSO.
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Post by: Ghail on August 13, 2008, 05:16:48 am
Hey Everyone, Just Registered for this problem i have (Sorry :P)

Its the same problem that Ajguy was getting, only i'm on Windows XP Home. I'm using the .EXE Installer. I've had a look at the Manual that was suggested, only nothing is wrong. The Firewall is excepting it, i have a strong internet connection, and its stopping at the pot that Ajguy mentioned.

I use to have Freespace on my computer (w/o cutscenes), only my secondary HD (A Desk Star, AKA: Death Star) crashed and the CD i have Freespace 2 on has holes, so i cant use it. I've also wanted Freespace2_Open for a while and when i saw this on WIKI i went for it. Now that the installer is working i feel like the universe doesnt want me to have Freespace2_Open!!!

Any help would be welcome.

Cheers.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2008, 06:31:00 am
Now that the installer is working i feel like the universe doesnt want me to have Freespace2_Open!
So, which do you mean? The Installer is working or is not working? If not working, do you mean that it simply won't download anything? If yes, then you are the third person today complaining about the same thing. Dunno what's causing it. Possibly something server-related. In which case it would be awesome to have Turey stumble upon here.

FS2 is available at Home of the Underdogs. Cutscenes are available at FreeSpaceMods.net. FSO builds, the Launcher, the MediaVPs, FSPort and so on can be found from the forums (and to some extent, FreeSpaceMods.net).
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Post by: halohunter on August 13, 2008, 08:39:45 am
Hi there, I'm also having the same problem as Ajguy and Ghail. A blank page after the part which asks "Yes to all?". Here's a screenshot: http://xs230.xs.to/xs230/08333/fsoinstall256.jpg

I upgraded to a new version of java yesterday. It might have something to do with it.
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Post by: Ajguy on August 13, 2008, 11:37:43 am
Given the fact that multiple people have the exact same issue, I'm going to agree with Lobo that it's probably server related. This would be the first screen where the installer actually connects to the internet to get a list of all available options. Hopefully it gets fixed up soon.

For the record, I tried every combination of checking and unchecking those check boxes.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2008, 11:42:53 am
It is. See here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,55772.0.html) for further instructions.
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Post by: Ghail on August 13, 2008, 08:58:54 pm
Hey Hey, The modified version of the Java Installer works :D.

Cheers.
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Post by: nextofpumpkin on August 14, 2008, 04:01:48 pm
Why not replicate that info file across multiple different hosts/servers, and have the installer attempt to connect to each of them in turn? I'm pretty surprised there's a single point of failure for this actually...
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Post by: wolfen on August 14, 2008, 04:03:03 pm
Thanks Lobo, I have Open AL installed but I lost the link to their download page :) I like to keep little things like that on a disk either in case I need them or in case somebody else needs them :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 14, 2008, 08:14:59 pm
Why not replicate that info file across multiple different hosts/servers, and have the installer attempt to connect to each of them in turn? I'm pretty surprised there's a single point of failure for this actually...
Blame Turey. He made it. His fault.

Thanks Lobo, I have Open AL installed but I lost the link to their download page :) I like to keep little things like that on a disk either in case I need them or in case somebody else needs them :)
Creative have actually messed up their site a while ago. If you try to go to openal.org, you'll be redirected to some soundcard support page. Which can be confusing and/or intimidating to some people, even though there is an OpenAL link on the top of that page.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Buddynayr on August 15, 2008, 07:04:19 am
Hey.  I'm trying to install this on Mac, but it is not working at all.  I pick a folder for the installation to go to, but then nothing happens when I get to the actual downloading screen.  Do I not have the correct version of Java?  How can you find that out on a Mac?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 15, 2008, 07:47:14 am
You need to download the workaround. Check the support forum.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 15, 2008, 09:24:34 am
See here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,55772.0.html) for further instructions.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on August 20, 2008, 12:30:52 am
This all be fixed now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 20, 2008, 05:34:20 am
Much obliged.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on August 20, 2008, 08:46:29 am
Turey's back!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on August 21, 2008, 02:38:22 pm
Turey's back!

Yup.

I'm seriously considering a full Installer update including something like the changes Chris_Ls made in the other thread, because it's terribly embarrassing that I forgot proper exception catching on such a simple part of the code. Said update may also include other upgrades for the Installer that I've been sitting on for quite a while because I'm a lazy bastard. Perhaps I'll even do a large retrofit, you never know.

Tune in next week to see if I actually go through with it. (OOH THE SUSPENSE!)

EDIT: On a completely unrelated note, one hundred and eighty three thousand topic views is a completely ridiculous number.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 21, 2008, 06:15:34 pm
Fortunately we survived through this disaster with little to no casualties. Chris_Ls played a pivotal role in the operation.

On a completely unrelated note, one hundred and eighty three thousand topic views is a completely ridiculous number.
It is. Sort of restless. It would be much easier and more calming to be able to just say one million.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: eliex on August 29, 2008, 09:40:20 pm
Is it possible to add Inferno and Blue Planet campaigns into the FSO Installer?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on August 29, 2008, 11:15:43 pm
As far as I know, Inferno is a separate mod with its own installer, I might be wrong though, I haven't played any releases in a while.  I thought Blue Planet was though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 30, 2008, 02:50:07 am
Yeh, at least INFR1 and Inferno Alliance are delivered as .exe installers. Which causes grudge among our Mac and Linux users...

And I also thought that Blue Planet was included.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 30, 2008, 12:57:54 pm
Nope, you have to submit your own campaing/someone else's, and no one likes BP enough to do that.

/sarcasm
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Wobble73 on September 01, 2008, 08:21:08 am
Nope, you have to submit your own campaing/someone else's, and no one likes BP enough to do that.

/sarcasm

I was going to say something, then I spotted the sarcasm tag!  :lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 01, 2008, 09:32:13 am
You had to see a tag to get the sarcasm?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mobius on September 13, 2008, 11:50:52 am
Inferno uses its own installers so no, let's keep it separated from the Installer.

By the way, I lost everything about FS in my PC except for my own missions. I've reinstalled Retail FS2 and I'm now willing to use the Installer for the first time. I DLed it, and...I don't know what to do. I clicked on the FreeSpaceOpenInstaller...looks like it can't be loaded(opened?).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 13, 2008, 11:53:43 am
I'm not going to make any assumptions here, and just doublecheck that you either have java installed, or that you made sure to download the .exe and not the .jar version of the installer?  The exe is the bigger one since it doesn't require java to already be installed.  Also, if you have java installed and downloaded the .jar, does it know to open jars with Java?  Older Java installs didn't associate them I don't think.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 13, 2008, 03:13:44 pm
Download the newest version of Java, and the .JAR version of the FSO Installer. Double click the .JAR.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Aardwolf on September 22, 2008, 04:01:07 am
I'd just like to point out that the mouse-wheel causes it to scroll 1 pixel per notch. That is very annoying and should be fixed.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 25, 2008, 10:36:22 pm
I'd just like to point out that the mouse-wheel causes it to scroll 1 pixel per notch. That is very annoying and should be fixed.

Problem is noted, will be fixed with the upcoming update.

Also, FS2 retail files permanently gone. Don't like it? Blame this guy (http://www.interplay.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=35&sid=c5f4ecf705ab6437239832a5d3491e19#p281).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on September 25, 2008, 10:50:34 pm
REQUIREMENTS AND NOTES
You can update your installation by simply running the Installer again. It won't download files that are out of date.

This statement contradicts itself.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Droid803 on September 25, 2008, 11:19:19 pm
Actually, it doesn't. It's saying that it'll only download files that aren't out of date (meaning that it won't download files that are.)
Nothing wrong here.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 02:12:39 am
You should definitely integrate a restart, and pause/resume download feature. I haven't been able to play fs2 for a long time because some things do time out (actually one thing or another times out every time i run the installer, even when i try to do portion downloads so i don't put all my eggs in one basket). I want to run the installer once to get the game once so i don't use suck up the bandwidth where these files are hosted. Some user oriented fault tolerance would be greatly appreciated and increase reliability and faith in the installer.

The more reliable this service is, the least often people will need to use it.

EDIT: Nevermind, i'm not going to be using the installer ever again. In the least plz make it more reliable for downloading for the coming future of keeping interest in using the installer for how many other people that wont be. This installer is a good product, but is limited in choices in what you can use to download, and now even more limited by what you can't download (fs2 vanilla), and retarded what is still up for download (fs2 vanilla is gone from the download but fs1 isn't?). If this installer became a unified mod installer (excluding the fsport or the whole communities retarded for excluding fs2), i can see a future with that, but given the very limited mod downloading capabilities of the installer makes me raise a question. Is the installer dying? Is it not going to be maintained? Will the project not be handed over to someone else?

This is a good piece of software, but OMG!!!!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 26, 2008, 04:53:50 am
(fs2 vanilla is gone from the download but fs1 isn't?).
FS1 isn't included. See my post on the other thread you ranted at.

Is the installer dying? Is it not going to be maintained? Will the project not be handed over to someone else?
Dunno about the .exe, but the source code of the Java version is highly available. Anyone can tinker with it, if they want to.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Aardwolf on September 26, 2008, 05:45:13 am
FS1 isn't included?

Well no, the exe isn't, but just about all of the retail data can still be gotten in some form, can it not?

I mean, it's packaged differently, and modified, but it's still the original files... of course, on that note, a lot of the stuff in the mediavps is just the retail stuff with a new, higher-detail LOD added in... bleh.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 05:50:00 am
That's what i was getting at aardwolf :yes:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 26, 2008, 06:07:39 am
FS1 isn't included?
In regards to what I said in the other thread: FSPort is FS1 as much as WINE is Windows.

Well no, the exe isn't, but just about all of the retail data can still be gotten in some form, can it not?
wat

I was referring to the Installer .exe versus the Java version of the Installer.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 06:17:14 am
Aardwolf was talking about V's freespace 1 executables and not the installer exe. The fact that the original freespace 1 executables aren't in the fsport, but all of the retail freespace 1 content can still be gotten in some form is what aardwolf was talking about.

In regards to what I said in the other thread: FSPort is FS1 as much as WINE is Windows.
This relation is bad. The WINE project made all of their own stuff themselves. Fsport is a half and half deal. It utilizes original game content and user made content.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Aardwolf on September 26, 2008, 06:40:01 am
I hate it when S-99 agrees with me...

Not to say that I agree with everything he says, or even all of what he's saying here though.

The thing is, the mediavps have almost as much :v: content as fsport. But pointing out that it was 'inconsistent' to take down the FS2 retail and leave up FSPort isn't going to get FS2 data back up there--if anything, it'd probably just get FSPort taken down... which would really suck.

Edit: I was wondering, while talking to S-99 on IM... does the FS1 retail data (the stuff installed from the FS1 CDs) run using FSO?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 26, 2008, 08:08:02 am
I was wondering, while talking to S-99 on IM... does the FS1 retail data (the stuff installed from the FS1 CDs) run using FSO?
You mean, can one play FreeSpace 1 with FSO? No. Too many differences. The missions, for example, have a different structure. That's why it was ported. Because it just doesn't work like "Here's FS1. Play it with FS2/FSO".
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 08:15:39 am
So the ported missions of the fsport is the desperation for keeping it up for download. How exactly were the missions for it ported though? We're they rebuilt one by one for fs2, or converted with some kind of program?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 26, 2008, 08:37:42 am
Problem is, you can't just take the retail data from FS1, drop it in you SCP mod directory and play Freespace 1.  Too many changes had to be done to it to ensure that it worked ok.  I suppose the FSPort data could be crippled, possibly remove the availability of the voice pack or something, and require you to grab those from the retail CD.  That may not have changed from original FS1, not sure.  Either way I hope anyone who buys FS2 grabs FS1 + ST anyway, since retail FS1 will always play a bit differently than FSPort.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: castor on September 26, 2008, 11:02:02 am
What's the fuss about FS1, is someone selling it too?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 26, 2008, 11:39:39 am
Yes, GOG has FS1+ST and FS2 both, $6 each.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: castor on September 26, 2008, 01:27:08 pm
Oh, nice. Been a while since FS1 was available.. I hope they fixed the  installer :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 06:35:05 pm
Fs1, fsport. Essentially it is fs1 up for download.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Mongoose on September 26, 2008, 07:10:53 pm
...except it's not.  As chief pointed out, certain elements of the data (like the mission files themselves, the soundtrack, or the beefed-up models/textures/effects) are completely different from retail FS1, so a straight-up copy wouldn't work.  As far as those that were unchanged, there is the option of removing things like briefing animations and cutscenes from the Port site, though I don't know that that step is really necessary either.  In any case, we're certainly going to encourage anyone who asks to purchase both FS titles through Good Old Games; there's no reason that playing the Port and its related campaigns on FS2 shouldn't preclude one from trying out the original game.  There's just something about that low-res all-green HUD...

And castor, all of the GOG titles purportedly run just fine on XP/Vista, though I haven't purchased any yet myself.  I never had any trouble installing/running retail FS1 under XP, though.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 08:21:20 pm
...except it's not.  As chief pointed out, certain elements of the data (like the mission files themselves, the soundtrack, or the beefed-up models/textures/effects) are completely different from retail FS1, so a straight-up copy wouldn't work.  As far as those that were unchanged, there is the option of removing things like briefing animations and cutscenes from the Port site, though I don't know that that step is really necessary either.  In any case, we're certainly going to encourage anyone who asks to purchase both FS titles through Good Old Games; there's no reason that playing the Port and its related campaigns on FS2 shouldn't preclude one from trying out the original game.
The soundtrack, the beefed up models textures and effects are also completely different for fs2 also. Technically you can consider fs2 a port over to the fso engine. Why  not a model where fs2 gets distributed just the same way as the port? With the port you are forced to have the ported missions and beefed up music effects, etc. After that the only thing your missing is the fso engine...which is free and available anyhow. For fs2 we have the mediavp's and we already have modified missions to incorporate mission fixes and integration of new level backgrounds. Having a model similar to how the fsport is distributed is almost the same as how fs2 is distributed here.

The only difference between fsport and fs2 is that you could play vanilla fs2, with the port you can't play retail fs1. Everything for playing fs2 in the installer is almost there, it's just that it's got some pretty bad holes in it that will prevent people from doing it. Stuff missing like the single player missions, but keeping the multiplayer fs2 missions in there? And missing nice stuff like the cbani's, sound affects, and voice files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Spicious on September 26, 2008, 09:47:46 pm
The soundtrack, the beefed up models textures and effects are also completely different for fs2 also.
Which is why the media vps are still available.

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Technically you can consider fs2 a port over to the fso engine.
No you can't. You can load FS2 data directly with FS2_Open, but you can't load FS1 data directly with either FS2 or FS2_Open. You're trying to force the relation between FS2_Open and FS2 to be the same as the one between FS2 and FS1, which it clearly isn't. If you can't see that, you have bigger problems than obtaining retail FS2 files.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 26, 2008, 11:05:46 pm
Yeah, but the port has already been ported. The fsport still does have its similarities with fs2 open either way, yes there not exactly the same.
The main issue is that the bare essentials for getting the fsport up and running are there, but the bare essentials for getting fs2 open up and running are not (some of them are there like the media vp's, but lacking stuff like cbani's, missions, voice files).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Galemp on September 27, 2008, 12:01:33 am
What's your problem, S-99? Seriously, why are you so obsessed with removing FSPort from the installer? You're the only one who cares and you're up in arms about it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 27, 2008, 04:04:47 am
Indeed. If you don't like it, don't download it.

As far as I understood, you, my dear S-99, have been trying to state that FS1, FS2, FSPort and FSO are all the same thing. I must say  :wtf:. I a nutshell,

- FS1 was the original FreeSpace game that started it all. A full game. Proprietary software.
- FS2 was the sequel to FS1. A full game. Proprietary software.
- FSO, FS2_Open, or whichever acronym you wish to use, is the drastically improved version of the FS2 game engine. Just the game engine. Lacking any contents necessary for experiencing the game itself.
- FSPort ports the FS1 campaigns, missions, ships music and such to FS2. A mod. Not a standalone and certainly not a full game. Requires at least FS2 to run.

On at least three different occasions it has been stated that FS2 was included in the Installer because there were practically no means for getting the game from legal markets, apart from eBay where one might have to pay $70 for a copy. The point was to keep the game alive and possibly encourage certain factions to start publishing/distributing it again. Now, GOG is doing that. They're distributing the FS games. And with cheap prices. There is now a convenient legal method for acquiring the games. So, FS2 should be dropped off from the Installer. End of story.

If you don't like it, you can always warez0r it from the torrentsorz or HotU or whatever.

Sure, it might be more difficult for totally new people to get FSO running now that it isn't included in the Installer, but that's why at least I'm here. We'll help them. Explain what must be done in order to play FSO. Explain why GOG is fun.

Now if you'll excuse me but I'd like to have my breakfast.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 27, 2008, 09:35:45 am
As far as I understood, you, my dear S-99, have been trying to state that FS1, FS2, FSPort and FSO are all the same thing. I must say  :wtf:. I a nutshell,
You almost got it, but in a skewed manner of what i was going after in which you totally hit a miss.

My main beef about was the fact that none of the fs2 elements are up for download anymore, not even the missions. On the other hand where the fsport which is up for download like the other mods in the installer. Unlike the other mods, the fsport uses content that was from an actual game along with user made content. This is where the fsport gets similar to fs2 open. Fs2 open is user made content along with the original game content also. Fs2 open is not a mod, but fsport and fs2 open do share the earlier mentioned details in common.

So, in effect to me, taking down the fs2 game content from the installer seemed a little inconsistent to me when the fsport is still up for download. Mainly just because of those two details i mentioned that the port while being a mod shares in common with fs2 open, they're both user made content mixed with V content.

In effect to me, if somebody wanted to remove the fsport from the installer and said, "no, you need to buy the game, we don't offer it on the installer anymore because that'd be an illegal download." I could see that flying because a similar decision was made for fs2.

I only see how half way calling the fsport a mod puts it in safe territory (because it is a mod), but rather, only because of the fact it's a mod...i say no. Mod is being tossed around here as though it automatically puts stuff in the safe zone. Fs2 isn't up for download anymore, but we still got fs1 in the form of a mod...we can do whatever the heck we want with it because it's a mod...it has similarities to nothing else because it's a mod. I don't care that it's a mod, it is also proprietary V fs1 content up for download.

This isn't about the fact that i don't want to buy the game. This is about the fact that my fs2 cd's are in another city right now. Which got me to try out the installer again in which i was so surprised i had to look twice to make sure that i actually saw what i saw, and that was none of the normal fs2 content (that was a really wierd experience). And at the same time i got to looking at the list, and i was like why is the fsport still up for download while fs2 isn't? It really doesn't matter to me that the fsport is a mod, it still has those damn similarities i mentioned which i found highly odd.

On the notion of the fsport not being stand alone i really sort of beg to differ. With the state of the fso engine, you could turn the fsport into a standalone game similar to what btrl did, that's the only reason i said that because the engine offers this flexibility to let it happen. The fso engine doesn't care what mod it has to load, but rather that is has one to load. And mods can be constructed to be stand alone as long as they have the necessary stuff, in this case for the fsport to be stand alone it'd need stuff from fs2.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on September 27, 2008, 10:33:11 am
If we follow your logic, we should also take down

- BtRL, because it has BSG content
- TBP, because it has B5 content and
- Derelict, because it has a reskinned Iceni,

for starters. In addition, the Homeworld and Halo TC's should also die a terrible, terrible death.



The term "mod" is quite useful in this case. If you try to run FSPort, the whole FSPort and nothing but FSPort, you'll notice that it won't work. It's not "FS1", nor is it standalone. It required FS2. It might be sort of like FS1, but it is not FS1. It gives the people the chance to experience what happened during FS1, and is especially useful for those who are unable to get FS1 running on their computers (I'm thinking about Mac and Linux users here). But it also makes it clear that it is most certainly not the original game. And to fully experience the original game, one must purchase the original game.

And I dare to suspect that the FSPort team has no intention of making FSPort a standalone.

i really sort of beg to differ.
So which is it? Do you beg to differ or are you just going to sit down quietly and mumble some objections? I may be dumb, but I can't figure out which one you mean.

I have nothing more to add to this conversation. If someone else wants to say something to one direction or the other, please, help yourself. And if you, S-99, still think that including FSPort to the Installer is the single most gruesome thing after the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you can easily state your opinions by boycotting the Installer. And even HLP.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: castor on September 27, 2008, 11:09:44 am
And castor, all of the GOG titles purportedly run just fine on XP/Vista, though I haven't purchased any yet myself.  I never had any trouble installing/running retail FS1 under XP, though.
Yea I guess. I just remember the attempt I made to install FS1 on winXP years back.. didn't get nowhere with it. Though I admit I didn't have the patience to juggle with compatibility options etc. back then.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: S-99 on September 27, 2008, 01:05:41 pm
If we follow your logic, we should also take down

- BtRL, because it has BSG content
- TBP, because it has B5 content and
- Derelict, because it has a reskinned Iceni,
When you mention this it makes more sense about the fsport.

I'm not saying make the fsport standalone, just pointing out that if one wanted to do so they probably could. The fso engine is flexible like this and offers this capability. Not that the fsport project is actually going to do this or that they should; i'm not hinting at that. Essentially fsport really is fs1 for free, sure on a different engine and the fact that it's a mod. But, you know whatever lets me play fs1 in higher quality and enables me to not need to own the cd's to use to play the full fs1 campaign and expansion (the greedy reasoning of why i think of the fsport as not just a mod, but also a really good duplication of fs1 on a different engine which of course comes in the form of a mod).

I mainly started this argument because with the fs2 being gone from the installer it really seemed like, "since they did something, it doesn't seem like they did it all the way." That being removing illegal content from the installer. I really don't care what's up for download by the installer anyhow, just that thought i have quoted here was in my head. And i thought it pretty awkward. I also started this argument with the objective to learn why certain things are on the installer and some aren't.

I have nothing more to add to this conversation. If someone else wants to say something to one direction or the other, please, help yourself. And if you, S-99, still think that including FSPort to the Installer is the single most gruesome thing after the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you can easily state your opinions by boycotting the Installer. And even HLP.
Anyway, i got as much as what i wanted to find out. It's not about boycotting the installer or desiring a removal of the fsport. When i saw that fs2 was gone for reasons of legal mumbo jumbo, and then i saw the fsport still there. To me it was gruesome to have the fsport still on there, it seemed inconsistent with the idea of getting rid of illegal content. Which in all regards i've found out, is something the installer really can't do very well because of the complexity of some of these mods like fsport.

The only things i can gather from this fiasco besides the gathered knowledge, is that only if fs2 were a mod it'd still be on the installer list, and that mod = god status and pointless to see in other lights simply because of mod. People are going to take this as highly cynical which it was written in that light, but however, it's what finally identifies the installer as a mod installer and nothing else. No one can use the installer to install pirated games (fs2) anymore.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MechMantis on September 28, 2008, 12:03:41 pm
I'm pretty sure the FSPort is permissible because of the work put in to re-create models, or at least convert them, rebuilding all the missions from scratch, and so on.

Either way it's permissible when we eventually HTL all the models there. Then the only thing we need to worry about is the voice files and the cinematics.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on September 28, 2008, 05:22:56 pm
Ugh. I leave for a couple days, and come back to find DRAMA.

Anyway.
On at least three different occasions it has been stated that FS2 was included in the Installer because there were practically no means for getting the game from legal markets, apart from eBay where one might have to pay $70 for a copy. The point was to keep the game alive and possibly encourage certain factions to start publishing/distributing it again. Now, GOG is doing that. They're distributing the FS games. And with cheap prices. There is now a convenient legal method for acquiring the games. So, FS2 should be dropped off from the Installer. End of story.

If you don't like it, you can always warez0r it from the torrentsorz or HotU or whatever.

Sure, it might be more difficult for totally new people to get FSO running now that it isn't included in the Installer, but that's why at least I'm here. We'll help them. Explain what must be done in order to play FSO. Explain why GOG is fun.
This is pretty much my opinion. In case you people forgot, the Installer started out with the mission of making FSO easy and simple to install on top of FS2. As the website says, "The FreeSpace Open Installer is an attempt to significantly reduce the difficulty of installing FreeSpace Open over a Retail FreeSpace 2 installation."

The reasoning behind including the retail files was twofold:
1. The only place to get FS2 was eBay, at ridiculous prices from shady dealers.
2. Even if you bought FS2, if you were on Mac or Linux, it was very difficult to get the files in the proper places.

Now, problem one has been fixed, and the second problem is much better now, as you can simply run the GOG installer in WINE.

I always planned to take the retail files back out, and this was as good a time as any.

One more thing:
Is the installer dying? Is it not going to be maintained? Will the project not be handed over to someone else?

Where have you been for the past year? The Installer's been in a "code coma" since September 24, 2007, waiting for either me to get some enthusiasm for working on it for for someone else to show some interest in it. Just in the past week, Goober checked out the code to see if he could clean up the interface, and I started working on a new feature again, but other than that...

The reason the Installer is dying is because no one has both the skill and desire to work on it.

EDIT: Also, please direct any questions regarding the legality of the FSPort to the FSPort team themselves. They can decide if they want to cripple the FSPort download in some way that makes it require FS1, but I'm not going to make a choice and force it on them.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 28, 2008, 05:40:05 pm
Turey, what version of the Launcher does the Installer provide? I'm using 5.5.0.4..
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Post by: Turey on September 28, 2008, 07:05:58 pm
Turey, what version of the Launcher does the Installer provide? I'm using 5.5.0.4..

It claims to be 5.5c. I should probably update that to 5.5d later today.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 28, 2008, 08:16:50 pm
I've always been a manual SCP downloader (not to cast dispersions on your fine work of course) I just  can't seem to find a launcher topic and i wondered if your installer had an option to update the launchers. 
:)
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Post by: chief1983 on September 29, 2008, 10:20:51 am
The only place I can find the launcher these days is in cole's sig.

Yeah, but the port has already been ported. The fsport still does have its similarities with fs2 open either way, yes there not exactly the same.
The main issue is that the bare essentials for getting the fsport up and running are there, but the bare essentials for getting fs2 open up and running are not (some of them are there like the media vp's, but lacking stuff like cbani's, missions, voice files).

Saying that including the MediaVPs is the same as including the FS1 content is not the same.  You _can't_ just have your FS1 retail CDs, and the FSO engine, and play enhanced FS1.  You have to have the many changes made in the FSPort, be it missions, tables, model tweaks, whatever.  It's data from a different game that had to be carefully tweaked to work.  To play the FSport on the upgraded engine at all, the vast majority of that modified FS1 content needs to be available.  That said, I still think we should find a way to cripple the Port in such a manner that you would need to get something off of the FS1 discs for the full experience.
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Post by: Galemp on September 29, 2008, 10:27:01 am
That said, I still think we should find a way to cripple the Port in such a manner that you would need to get something off of the FS1 discs for the full experience.

You need FS1 to get the full experience, because only FS1 is FS1.

That is our official position.
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Post by: S-99 on September 29, 2008, 11:43:43 am
Saying that including the MediaVPs is the same as including the FS1 content is not the same.  You _can't_ just have your FS1 retail CDs, and the FSO engine, and play enhanced FS1.  You have to have the many changes made in the FSPort, be it missions, tables, model tweaks, whatever.  It's data from a different game that had to be carefully tweaked to work.  To play the FSport on the upgraded engine at all, the vast majority of that modified FS1 content needs to be available.  That said, I still think we should find a way to cripple the Port in such a manner that you would need to get something off of the FS1 discs for the full experience.
I in no way implied that including the media vp's is the same thing as including the fs1 content. All i said was that the bare essentials for getting a complete up and running fsport experience is up for download by the installer ready at a moments notice for everyone, and that fs2 is not the same in this regard anymore because the only bare essentials people can get for fs2 is the media vp's and nothing else. This is no way says that including the media vp's is the same as including the fs1 content.

I know that you can't play the fsport without the ported missions and that in itself sort of makes it unnecessary for having the fs1 cd's because of the fact that the official fs1 missions are incompatible with fs2 open along with other stuff from the official fs1 cd's. The fsport has completely been completely redesigned and tweaked to run on the fs2 open engine.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 29, 2008, 02:10:11 pm
That said, I still think we should find a way to cripple the Port in such a manner that you would need to get something off of the FS1 discs for the full experience.

You need FS1 to get the full experience, because only FS1 is FS1.

That is our official position.

I understand that position, and hope it works well enough, I just wonder how many people will think they don't need to buy FS1 because FSPort is 'close enough'.
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Post by: GTSVA on September 29, 2008, 08:23:44 pm
Ech....Hunter kept telling me to download FS1, not the port, the real thing...¬¬

Can anyone upload a link?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 29, 2008, 08:27:45 pm
$6 on www.gog.com, if you still need a beta invite I've got one.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 01, 2008, 02:59:22 am
Oh hey, look at that, an Installer update! What a surprise!

This update includes:
New Config section replaces the old options page, if you've got ideas for more configs, let me hear them and I'll add them to the config file.
Scroll bars no longer terribly slow.
NOAUTO removed from spec. You can still put it in the file, it's just ignored.
Exception handling! Huzzah!
Six new campaigns:

I just ripped the descriptions off of the wiki, so if the campaign doesn't have a good description, it's the creator's fault (I'm looking at you, BWO!)

There's probably some other stuff, but I can't remember it right now, because it's freaking one in the morning and I've been coding ALL FREAKING DAY.

Anyway, have fun.

EDIT: Bah, looks like there's something wrong with the Twilight zip. I'll look into it.

EDIT2: Fixed. Not sure why it's not creating the folder properly, maybe there's something funky about the zip file. Anyway, some text file trickery fixed it.
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Post by: Goober5000 on October 01, 2008, 05:25:38 pm
Yay!
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Post by: GTSVA on October 04, 2008, 11:31:44 am
I've been waiting for this....XD
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 04, 2008, 05:33:37 pm
There's something funky with the 3.6.8 mediavps links. In the meantime, I've copied them onto my server and updated the text files, so they should work fine now. If you've been having problems with the mediavps, try re-running the Installer.
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Post by: eliex on October 04, 2008, 11:30:19 pm
This update includes:
Six new campaigns:
  • Blue Planet
  • BWO Demo
  • PI
  • STL
  • Twilight
  • Warzone

Nice! This is going to please a lot of people! Thank you very much!  :D

EDIT - Ok, I just downloaded it and tried it out. (I know I'm overpraising but . . . ) The 3rd page looks much sleeker than the old one.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on October 05, 2008, 11:24:35 am
Umm...

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Post by: Turey on October 05, 2008, 01:51:20 pm
Umm...

What? That shouldn't be possible. The scrollbar should handle all size increases, and even if it didn't, the main window size is locked anyway.

Either way, I can't begin to imagine how you pulled that off.
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Post by: chief1983 on October 05, 2008, 01:53:30 pm
I'm guessing your code locks the window size to some percentage of the monitor's height, or a fixed pixel height regardless of resolution?  If it's percentage based the method could need some adjustment.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Turey on October 05, 2008, 02:06:57 pm
I'm guessing your code locks the window size to some percentage of the monitor's height, or a fixed pixel height regardless of resolution?  If it's percentage based the method could need some adjustment.

I believe it's a fixed pixel height, but I'd have to check.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on October 05, 2008, 02:13:17 pm
What? That shouldn't be possible. The scrollbar should handle all size increases, and even if it didn't, the main window size is locked anyway.

Either way, I can't begin to imagine how you pulled that off.
You must master the idiosyncrasies of the Swing, young padawan. :)

Swing layouts are tough to get right.  It's not uncommon for something bizarre like this to happen.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dr_costas on October 31, 2008, 03:46:26 pm
hi guys, i just re-installed my linux distribution and run the installer again but I cant get the game to run. It says web cursor bitmap not found, although i tried the solution written in the wiki. Then i read that the installer does not have retail FS2. does that mean that i cannot play fs2_open as supplied by the java installer unless I also have the retail cds? Since I do have them, do I have to install the game from the cd first and then use the installer or can i just copy some files over?

Many thanks
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on October 31, 2008, 05:05:14 pm
You should be able to get the necessary .vp files from the .cab files on the cds.  You need:


You should grab the cutscenes (all 10) as well, and put them in Freespace2\data\movies\.  Everything else you need comes with the installer.  I also would get the hud_[1-3].hcf files if you see them and drop them in \data\players\, since those are presets for the hud colors.  No one else seems to think they are important except me though :)

Unfortunately, to get at the cab files it looks like you will need to use Unshield, which is hopefully included in your distro's package manager.  Only way I can find currently to get at the necessary files.
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Post by: captain-custard on October 31, 2008, 05:11:57 pm
You should be able to get the necessary .vp files from the .cab files on the cds.  You need:

  • root_fs2
  • smarty_fs2
  • sparky_fs2
  • sparky_hi_fs2
  • stu_fs2
  • tango1_fs2
  • tango2_fs2
  • tango3_fs2
  • warble_fs2

You should grab the cutscenes (all 10) as well, and put them in Freespace2\data\movies\.  Everything else you need comes with the installer.  I also would get the hud_[1-3].hcf files if you see them and drop them in \data\players\, since those are presets for the hud colors.  No one else seems to think they are important except me though :)

Unfortunately, to get at the cab files it looks like you will need to use Unshield, which is hopefully included in your distro's package manager.  Only way I can find currently to get at the necessary files.


bit of a dumnb question are these

and stu_fs2
absolutely neccesary?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on October 31, 2008, 06:22:27 pm
bit of a dumnb question are these

  • tango1_fs2
  • tango2_fs2
  • tango3_fs2
  • warble_fs2
and stu_fs2
absolutely neccesary?
It is a bit silly question. Those are retail FS2 files. Retail FS2 is GodTM or the equivalent omnipotent being described in one's religion. Therefore, those files are absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: dr_costas on October 31, 2008, 07:23:14 pm
many thanks! i can play again (though i had to install the game since i could not extract the files. unshield failed, though it shouldnt hmmm

now my next question, how can i restore my save points? i backed up my data players folder but my previous pilot is not recognised by the game...

oh and where are the cutscenes? i cannot find them in the data folder of my installation

EDIT: seems the new installation puts the player data on a different folder (at least in linux). I managed to uplaod my old player but my old games still dont show up. And while playing freespace 2 i got this error

ERROR: "Invalid weapon name.  In sexpression: ( when     ( true )     ( good-secondary-time        "Friendly"        100        "Cyclops"        "Belisarius"     ) ) (Error appears to be: Cyclops)" at mission/missionparse.cpp:5798


hmmm where is the old installer .... !
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on October 31, 2008, 08:16:08 pm
I can't run any part of Freespace after the latest installer, do I need to install FS2 Retail off the disk first?
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Post by: dr_costas on October 31, 2008, 08:26:33 pm
ahaha i found the walkthrough for the installer, how did i miss it completely... forget my previous post, i will come back later if i cant get through the walkthrough!

http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/FreeSpace_Open_Installer
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Post by: Fenrir on October 31, 2008, 08:55:19 pm
I can't run any part of Freespace after the latest installer, do I need to install FS2 Retail off the disk first?

Yes.
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Post by: karajorma on November 01, 2008, 03:01:57 am
bit of a dumnb question are these

  • tango1_fs2
  • tango2_fs2
  • tango3_fs2
  • warble_fs2
and stu_fs2
absolutely neccesary?
It is a bit silly question. Those are retail FS2 files. Retail FS2 is GodTM or the equivalent omnipotent being described in one's religion. Therefore, those files are absolutely necessary.

They don't actually have to be on your HD though. FS2 will actually load those off of the CD if it can't find them elsewhere. Those files are the ones missed if you do a minimal install (along with Sparky_hi_fs2.vp) So it is quite possible to have the game work without them present.

However if you don't have them present the quality of the game will be hugely reduced as they are the sound and music VPs along with the command briefing animations.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 01, 2008, 04:03:02 am
I can't run any part of Freespace after the latest installer, do I need to install FS2 Retail off the disk first?
THE INSTALLER DOES NOT INCLUDE RETAIL FILES.
At least not anymore. So yes. If you have a copy of FS2, install it. If not, buy one from Good Old Games for $5.99 and install it.

bit of a dumnb question are these

  • tango1_fs2
  • tango2_fs2
  • tango3_fs2
  • warble_fs2
and stu_fs2
absolutely neccesary?
It is a bit silly question. Those are retail FS2 files. Retail FS2 is GodTM or the equivalent omnipotent being described in one's religion. Therefore, those files are absolutely necessary.

They don't actually have to be on your HD though. FS2 will actually load those off of the CD if it can't find them elsewhere. Those files are the ones missed if you do a minimal install (along with Sparky_hi_fs2.vp) So it is quite possible to have the game work without them present. 
Most true, but I was indeed referring to the fact that the lack of those files devours a large portion of the gaming experience and therefore is not recommended.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: captain-custard on November 01, 2008, 05:11:40 am
ok , i have sparky hi but not the others ... just a final question , with fs-open 3.6.10 media vps etc are these needed?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 01, 2008, 05:18:34 am
ok , i have sparky hi but not the others ... just a final question , with fs-open 3.6.10 media vps etc are these needed?
Concidering that the MediaVPs consist mostly of models, textures and effects, yes. If you don't have stu, tangos and warble but have each and every 3.6.10 MediaVP (including MV_music), you are missing the command briefing animations and voice acting, but on the positive side you have some of the music tracks.
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Post by: captain-custard on November 01, 2008, 05:23:23 am
thanks ill go a hunting in my fs disc
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on November 01, 2008, 08:22:05 pm
I can't run any part of Freespace after the latest installer, do I need to install FS2 Retail off the disk first?

Yes.

thanks, I can do that I have FS1 I found at a thrift store, and FS 2 I found on the net before all the copy's went away.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on November 01, 2008, 08:50:31 pm
You should still purchase a copy if you didn't, it's only $6.  From this point on, anyone not owning a copy of FS2 will be subject to the Knights who say 'ni'.

Ni!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on November 02, 2008, 08:49:11 am
You should still purchase a copy if you didn't, it's only $6.  From this point on, anyone not owning a copy of FS2 will be subject to the Knights who say 'ni'.

Ni!

let em say "ni :) my copy of FS IS the retail, not a counterfeit, like most stuff found on the net, I just was at he right site at eh right time and was never charged for it :) I don't remember what site it was, been a few years. But I have it on 3 disks 1, 2, and 3
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Post by: Aurora Paradox on November 02, 2008, 05:38:18 pm
The link the installer uses for the Homesick mod needs to be updated because the current one is dead.  Other than that don't change a thing.  The installer simplified the process of updating my game greatly.  Many thanks to the creator of this tool.

Aurora Paradox
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Post by: wolfen on November 08, 2008, 03:09:32 pm
Well guys and gals, I did it, I got freespace to run on the computer :)
Step 1. I installed Freespace - The Great War
Step 2. I installed Freespace 2
Step 3. I ran the installer and now have all freespace working again :)

I feel smart
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Post by: Stoikheion on November 10, 2008, 11:27:19 pm
Hey everyone,

I'll admit that I'm a complete noob to the Free Space community / way of life (my friend told me about the game, it looked awesome, so I came to this site and bought Free Space 2 off of Good Old Games), and so far my installation of Free Space Open has been very... interesting. I have the big .exe install file for just Free Space 2 from GOG (no discs, no original Free Space), and I have the .jar installer for Free Space Open, and am running on Windows Vista. What exactly do I need to do in order to play the best that Free Space Open has to offer? So far, I've tried:

Playing just Free Space 2: I got the game to run by itself using the GOG installer, but sometimes the mouse was screwing up a little bit while trying to use it as a joystick. But I want open source graphics!

Installing Free Space 2 patch 1.2: I'm not sure whether or not the GOG version comes with version 1.2, but whenever I tried running the installer and locating "FreeSpace2.exe", it would always say "There was an error processing the patch: Old File not found. However, a file of the same name was. No update done since file contents do not match." So I'm not sure if the patch is already installed, or if the installer just doesn't work. Is it really necessary?

Installing Free Space Open: I can run the .jar or .exe and download all the files, but I'm kind of confused as to what to do next. When I run "Launcher.exe" and locate the "fs2_open_3_6_9.exe" file, it has often said something about missing mouse pointers, and wouldn't launch the game correctly. This last time, however, it started the game without complaining, but the game looked identical to the original Free Space 2 (I'm assuming there was supposed to be some kind of graphical update) and my mouse didn't work as a joystick at all.

So is there something that I need to do differently? What exactly would I expect from an ideal installation of Free Space Open? I would really appreciate any help, thank you in advance :)
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Post by: General Battuta on November 10, 2008, 11:30:01 pm
Are your FSOpen files located in your Freespace 2 directory?
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Post by: Stoikheion on November 10, 2008, 11:33:14 pm
I installed both Free Space 2 and Free Space Open in C:\Games\Freespace 2, so the FSOpen files should be there.
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Post by: Turey on November 11, 2008, 04:05:23 am
odd. Can you post some sort of directory listing with file names and sizes?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 11, 2008, 05:19:51 am
Installing Free Space 2 patch 1.2:...So I'm not sure if the patch is already installed, or if the installer just doesn't work. Is it really necessary?
I do think the GOG version is 1.2 already.

This last time, however, it started the game without complaining, but the game looked identical to the original Free Space 2 (I'm assuming there was supposed to be some kind of graphical update)
The FSO engine makes graphical enhancements possible but it doesn't include them. The graphical enhancements are known as the MediaVPs and they can be downloaded with the Installer. If you didn't download them, download them. They will be located in \freespace2\mediavps\ and they are used by opening the Launcher, opening the MOD tab and selecting the \freespace2\mediavps\ folder as your active mod.
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Post by: wolfen on November 11, 2008, 08:21:18 am
Ya know speaking of the patch, I don't think I installed it, maybe that explains the 1/4 of a planet missing in Cardinal Spear.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 11, 2008, 09:16:05 am
Ya know speaking of the patch, I don't think I installed it, maybe that explains the 1/4 of a planet missing in Cardinal Spear.
No. That would be Herra Tohtori's Epic Planets of Unforetold Resource ConsumptionTM. Lower resolution versions are available from the first post of the Cardinal Spear release thread.
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Post by: General Battuta on November 11, 2008, 09:29:47 am
I recall Kara saying that the GOG version was 1.2, but that one VP hadn't been updated. Does anyone remember which one that was?
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Post by: wolfen on November 11, 2008, 01:31:50 pm
Ya know speaking of the patch, I don't think I installed it, maybe that explains the 1/4 of a planet missing in Cardinal Spear.
No. That would be Herra Tohtori's Epic Planets of Unforetold Resource ConsumptionTM. Lower resolution versions are available from the first post of the Cardinal Spear release thread.

Epic Planets of Unfortold resource Comsuption huh? I could make a political joke right about now, but it wouldn't be approiate for this game.

Oh and thanks I went and got it, gonna install it now
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 11, 2008, 01:36:07 pm
Well, the point being that the planets in Cardinal Spear aren't retail planets. They are planets specifically made for and distributed with Cardinal Spear (and actual objects instead of background images, for that matter). It's just that the indecently large amount of pixels may be too much for certain rigs/GPUs and can cause a sort of "tearing" in the planets. The lower resolution planet textures are naturally less resource-unfriendly and have so far worked for everyone who has had problems with the original ones.
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Post by: wolfen on November 11, 2008, 01:40:05 pm
I got it, now where does it go? Its been a long time since I've had to do this, I forget things in my old age :)
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 11, 2008, 01:55:10 pm
 :wtf: Uh... the textures should be packed into a .vp, so the .vp should be placed to \freespace2\cardinalspear\.
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Post by: Stoikheion on November 11, 2008, 03:55:25 pm
Thanks everyone, it runs now! And I'm pretty sure the graphics are updated - no new menus or any advanced options, but the graphics are definitely more detailed on the ships.
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Post by: wolfen on November 11, 2008, 04:27:45 pm
:wtf: Uh... the textures should be packed into a .vp, so the .vp should be placed to \freespace2\cardinalspear\.

Ok...............did it............put them there....................guess how stupid I feel for asking that question instead of knowing where it went.
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Post by: karajorma on November 12, 2008, 03:18:37 am
I recall Kara saying that the GOG version was 1.2, but that one VP hadn't been updated. Does anyone remember which one that was?

Well that was what I was told. The HotU crack pack on my FAQ's download page contains the 1.2 version of the VP file so if anyone wants to compare files they can. But from the file size of the version I was sent by someone (can't remember who) the GoG version definitely seems to be v1.0 rather than v1.2.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 12, 2008, 05:18:01 am
from the file size of the version I was sent by someone (can't remember who) the GoG version definitely seems to be v1.0 rather than v1.2.
In that case, off to fix my installation instructions. ->
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Post by: General Battuta on November 12, 2008, 09:22:48 am
I recall Kara saying that the GOG version was 1.2, but that one VP hadn't been updated. Does anyone remember which one that was?

Well that was what I was told. The HotU crack pack on my FAQ's download page contains the 1.2 version of the VP file so if anyone wants to compare files they can. But from the file size of the version I was sent by someone (can't remember who) the GoG version definitely seems to be v1.0 rather than v1.2.

Which VP was it?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 12, 2008, 09:40:13 am
Well that was what I was told. The HotU crack pack on my FAQ's download page contains the 1.2 version of the VP file so if anyone wants to compare files they can. But from the file size of the version I was sent by someone (can't remember who) the GoG version definitely seems to be v1.0 rather than v1.2.
Which VP was it?
Root_fs2.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Aurora Paradox on November 12, 2008, 10:13:16 pm
I recall Kara saying that the GOG version was 1.2, but that one VP hadn't been updated. Does anyone remember which one that was?

The GoG version definitely seems to be v1.0 rather than v1.2.

According to GOG site the game comes patched to version 1.2.  I already purchased the game from them a little while ago and I didn't patch it.  I just installed the Freespace open upgrades and haven't had any major problems thus far.  If it turns out it is really only version 1.0 will this mean I have to start over with a clean install of Freespace?  What did the 1.2 patch fix anyways?

Aurora Paradox
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on November 12, 2008, 11:47:16 pm
The problem is one file seems to have been missed, whereas the rest are 1.2.  That file is root_fs2.vp (which itself is actually a collection of files).  One thing that would be missing then, is a few mission bugfixes I believe.
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Post by: Mongoose on November 13, 2008, 12:34:34 am
Has anyone contacted GOG to see about getting that file updated as well?  It seems like their support guys would be happy to take care of it, if they were aware of the problem.
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Post by: Aurora Paradox on November 13, 2008, 12:43:29 am
The problem is one file seems to have been missed, whereas the rest are 1.2.  That file is root_fs2.vp (which itself is actually a collection of files).  One thing that would be missing then, is a few mission bugfixes I believe.

Can I install the patch with the Freespace open upgrades in place or can it only be applied to a clean install of FreeSpace2?

Aurora  Paradox
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 13, 2008, 03:02:16 am
The problem is one file seems to have been missed, whereas the rest are 1.2.  That file is root_fs2.vp (which itself is actually a collection of files).  One thing that would be missing then, is a few mission bugfixes I believe.
Can I install the patch with the Freespace open upgrades in place or can it only be applied to a clean install of FreeSpace2?

Aurora  Paradox
As it was said, the updated Root_fs2.vp is included in the HotU Crack Pack available from Karajorma's FreeSpace FAQ. So, you can download it, take the Root_fs2.vp from the pack and put it into your \freespace2\ folder, replacing the Root_fs2.vp there.
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Post by: karajorma on November 13, 2008, 05:33:49 pm
The problem is one file seems to have been missed, whereas the rest are 1.2.  That file is root_fs2.vp (which itself is actually a collection of files).  One thing that would be missing then, is a few mission bugfixes I believe.

Which you wouldn't notice playing FS2_Open anyway since the missions are included in order to make nameplates, etc work.
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Post by: chief1983 on November 13, 2008, 05:51:34 pm
That's only with the MediaVPs right?  Some people might still end up playing retail, and they should be if they're developing anything for retail.
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Post by: karajorma on November 14, 2008, 02:46:02 am
Yeah, but I'm saying why the lack of the 1.2 VP hasn't been as noticeable for most people as you'd think it would be.
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Post by: chief1983 on November 14, 2008, 12:08:59 pm
Ok that's true.  Still, did anyone actually contact (and get a reply from) them about this, or have we just been saying someone should do that?
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Post by: karajorma on November 16, 2008, 04:32:15 am
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/Freespace_Series/freespace_2_in_gog_is_crippled/8

It's apparently fixed. But there are probably older copies floating around.
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 09:37:15 am
Ok stupid question, where do I get this patch fro, and since every thing's working do I even need it?
All mods work, but I still have 1/4 of a planet missing in Cardinal spear, haven't really looked to see if its a shadow from the moon or not
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 16, 2008, 09:45:09 am
I still have 1/4 of a planet missing in Cardinal spear, haven't really looked to see if its a shadow from the moon or not
Screenshot? And it is fully possible that this isn't the fault of the Installer.
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 09:50:25 am
I'll try to get one as soon as I can and link to it on imageshack or something
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 16, 2008, 09:51:09 am
Or attach it to your post?
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 11:20:56 am
Yea if I'm able to do that, useing Opera here, not exactly figured ity all out yet :)
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 16, 2008, 11:28:39 am
When posting, click "Additional Options...", then "Browse", then just find the screenshot. Like attaching files to an email.
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 11:32:36 am
ok now the fun part, how do I take a screen shot?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 16, 2008, 11:35:00 am
The same way you always take a screenshot: by hitting Prt Sc on your keyboard. Except that whereas normally the screenshot is stored on the clipboard, FreeSpace is smart enough to directly save it to \freespace2\screenshots\.
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Post by: chief1983 on November 16, 2008, 11:53:00 am
I'm glad to see they've fixed the root vp file, however it looks like they did it all stealth-like and didn't reply to anyone who actually brought it to their attention, or the forum post.  Not an ideal level of customer service, but at least they got the job done.
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Post by: karajorma on November 16, 2008, 11:55:13 am
Probably got told in an email first and didn't actually fix it in response to the forum post. :)
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Post by: chief1983 on November 16, 2008, 12:08:19 pm
Well I meant the guys in that forum post who claimed to have emailed them and received no response up to making that post.  Maybe someone else emailed them and that's what did it, who knows.  Either way, as to the possible lack of forum moderators,

(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/16/128713324957124135.jpg)
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 04:55:38 pm
The same way you always take a screenshot: by hitting Prt Sc on your keyboard. Except that whereas normally the screenshot is stored on the clipboard, FreeSpace is smart enough to directly save it to \freespace2\screenshots\.

That key actually works on modern PC's?
I got to try it
I'll let ya know in a few
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 05:06:48 pm
Ok heres the 2 bodies #1 is a moon #2 is the planet, sorry the screen shot quality is so low and the brightness is so dark, but I did these in a hurry so I could get back to dieing in space :)

Oh btw even with these two minor problems, Freespace is STILL the top of the line game out there, I'm serious guys, I've played about every game there is this one is the best.

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Post by: Jeff Vader on November 16, 2008, 05:42:49 pm
:wtf: Well, this is odd. Have you tried it with and without the low res planet texture package? And have you tried redownloading Cardinal Spear? It would seem that either the textures are broken or the planet models have something funky going on.
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 05:46:50 pm
Well I just reinstalled Freespace last week from scratch, and I had nothing but white planets until I installed the low res files.
Maybe I should DL Cardinal Spear separately?

Although this could possibly be a byproduct of the current world condition :)

I think I'll try DLing the mod by itself and see if I lost something in the mix
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Post by: wolfen on November 16, 2008, 07:49:51 pm
Ok DL'd cardinal Spear separately, emptied the folder, replaced everything in teh folder, still has the missing parts of the planets, no biggie though, its not the planet shooting at me :)
however this screen is from somewhere around Hawaii from the inside of planet Earth, looking out toward the moon, just in case nobody's ever done it before :)

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Post by: lefkos on December 08, 2008, 07:32:50 am
hey peeps!
its been a while!
but im finally getting some time for my own again
so i wanted to install freespace 2 again:)
but what the heck! the installation took 6 hours!!
also.. i suddenly got this:

Error:
Web cursor bitmap not found.  This is most likely due to one of three reasons:
   1) You're running FreeSpace Open from somewhere other than your FreeSpace 2 folder;
   2) You've somehow corrupted your FreeSpace 2 installation;
   3) You haven't installed FreeSpace 2 at all.
Number 1 can be fixed by simply moving the FreeSpace Open executable file to the FreeSpace 2 folder.  Numbers 2 and 3 can be fixed by installing or reinstalling FreeSpace 2.  If neither of these solutions fixes your problem, you've found a bug and should report it.
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Graphics\2d.cpp
Line: 1526
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that built this executable]

Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------


i never had this before :blah:
also on the beginning of the installation the installer couldnt download a file (i think it was goob blabla.txt or something like that atleast the part with goob is all i remember)

but what do i have to do to fix this?
if im going furter with the game
it freezes
or im gettin more errors
 :sigh:
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 08, 2008, 07:40:43 am
THE INSTALLER DOES NOT INCLUDE RETAIL FILES. YOU CAN PURCHASE RETAIL FS2 FROM Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com).
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Post by: lefkos on December 08, 2008, 07:51:42 am
THE INSTALLER DOES NOT INCLUDE RETAIL FILES. YOU CAN PURCHASE RETAIL FS2 FROM Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com).
wait..
since when does it require the retail files? :confused:
confusion

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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 08, 2008, 07:56:21 am
Long story long: Back in the days there were no official distributors for FS2 and the only "legal" way was to buy the game with excessively high prices from eBay. That is why Turey included the retail files to the Installer. Some time ago, this really friendly and awesome company called Good Old Games started distributing numerous old classic games, such as FreeSpace2, at extremely consumer-friendly prices. Since there is now a legitimate seller for the game and especially since buying FS2 from GOG supports the license owners, Turey removed the retail files from the Installer. Now, people without FS2 are directed to GOG, where they can buy this fantastic game for $5.99.
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Post by: lefkos on December 08, 2008, 08:01:28 am
Long story long: Back in the days there were no official distributors for FS2 and the only "legal" way was to buy the game with excessively high prices from eBay. That is why Turey included the retail files to the Installer. Some time ago, this really friendly and awesome company called Good Old Games started distributing numerous old classic games, such as FreeSpace2, at extremely consumer-friendly prices. Since there is now a legitimate seller for the game and especially since buying FS2 from GOG supports the license owners, Turey removed the retail files from the Installer. Now, people without FS2 are directed to GOG, where they can buy this fantastic game for $5.99.
aah i understand
thanks for the info
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Post by: wolfen on December 08, 2008, 04:57:59 pm
one thing I have been wondering about GOG, do they have FS1 also or just FS2? I gotta go look around there and see what other old games they have, I still have the original MYST that ran on a 486 AND I have Forsaken :) but Forsaken won't run on this new computer and Myst runs in a little window so I keep a 486 win3.1.1 around just for that .
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Post by: eliex on December 08, 2008, 05:04:14 pm
GOG offers FS1, ST and FS2 IIRC.
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Post by: chief1983 on December 08, 2008, 05:38:40 pm
Their library is expanding quickly too, so if they don't have it now put it on the wish list.
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Post by: dragonsniper on December 08, 2008, 06:33:16 pm
GOG offers FS1, ST and FS2 IIRC.
Doesn't the FSport come with FS1 and ST?
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Post by: wolfen on December 08, 2008, 06:34:03 pm
Thats good
I know people that like FS and they don't have it, they need a place to get it from.
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Post by: chief1983 on December 08, 2008, 10:46:49 pm
Yes it does, but if you want a legit copy of the original (with the FS1 AI especially) then it's the way to go.  FSPort isn't identical, but it's close.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 09, 2008, 02:32:07 am
Doesn't the FSport come with FS1 and ST?
:wtf: If we want to be precise (and we most certainly do), FSPort ports the FS1 campaign, models, textures, sounds, voices and such to FS2. Ports. It is not FS1. Very similar, but not exactly the same. FSPort allows people to play the FS1 campaign (and the Silent Threat campaign) with the FS2/FSO engine, thereby offering a chance to drastically improve the graphics and possibly circumvent any compatibility issues with FS1. But it is not FS1. Only FS1 is FS1.
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Post by: wolfen on December 09, 2008, 03:39:14 pm
The good  things about owning  the retail versions are, (1) you can play the original way the game came out (2) the installer doesn't come with them.
Bad thing about owning a copy of FS and FS2 is that disks eventually become scratched.
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Post by: chief1983 on December 09, 2008, 04:12:55 pm
GOG is a digital download you can get all you want.  No need to worry about disks there.
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Post by: wolfen on December 09, 2008, 08:06:00 pm
Yea but my problem is I'm old fashioned, I like to keep my stuff on disk "just in case"
Just like every word doc, is backed up on paper "just in case"
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Post by: General Battuta on December 09, 2008, 08:41:51 pm
Then you can burn the GOG files to a disk. There's no DRM.
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Post by: chief1983 on December 09, 2008, 10:56:33 pm
Or make backups of your original discs.  Either way you can pretty much have it all.
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Post by: eliex on December 10, 2008, 03:16:24 am
Does anyone know how to take screenshots without the HUD and all on the screen, like those on the Derelict loading screens? Or were the pictures taken by another program?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 10, 2008, 03:23:24 am
You'll find a key combination for toggling the HUD on or off from the keyboard configuration. As an old geezer I can't remember if it was the default or not, but I have it assigned to Shift-O.

Then just Prt Sc.

...though I fail to understand how this is related to the Installer.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 10, 2008, 03:39:41 am
Buying FS1 from GOG gives you the music, voice and movies for the port too :yes:
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Post by: perihelion on December 15, 2008, 11:03:11 pm
So... any thoughts about adding the MediaVP 3.6.10's to this installer?
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Post by: chief1983 on December 16, 2008, 12:18:10 am
Probably waiting for the first patch.  I would be.  Maybe even waiting for FSPort to clean itself up a bit too so they can all be done at one time, it's not very good to mix and match them.
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Post by: wolfen on December 25, 2008, 07:07:48 pm
I have discovered that all media vp's usually end up in Turey's installer after a while, if they don't end up there, they end up linked to from here somewhere.
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Post by: Goober5000 on December 25, 2008, 07:17:17 pm
They would have been in the Installer over a week ago (I sent Turey an updated textfile) but Turey hasn't figured out how to add .7z support yet. :(
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Post by: chief1983 on December 26, 2008, 12:54:44 am
The only way to do it would be to shell out to a command line program.  Those exist on all the supported platforms, it would just end up becoming a prerequisite for the installer on top of Java.  I can understand why he wouldn't want to force that on people but it really is a tighter compression that saves a lot of bandwidth I'm sure.
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Post by: ADDAvenger on December 26, 2008, 02:55:33 pm
Well I'm royally confused, I've downloaded "the works" but all I'm getting is a "web cursor not found" error, and I've tried running both the 3.6.10 and 3.6.9 executables.  I realize the retail files aren't included anymore, but why does this matter for FSO?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 26, 2008, 02:58:50 pm
It matters mainly because FSO requires FS2.
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Post by: ADDAvenger on December 26, 2008, 03:22:18 pm
well in that case I think the wording of the OP should be changed to something more like "you must have retail FS2, which can be bought from GOG for $6"  :p
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 26, 2008, 03:39:36 pm
I've used that wording on the installation instructions thread on the support board. And it is expressed in The FAQ that FSO is not a new game. So I suppose Turey assumes that anyone who wants to install FSO understands that it is something you add on top of FS2. A matter of opinion, I guess.
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Post by: Mongoose on December 27, 2008, 01:53:01 pm
Phrase added to OP, to make sure all bases are covered. :p
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Post by: wolfen on December 28, 2008, 12:36:08 pm
well in that case I think the wording of the OP should be changed to something more like "you must have retail FS2, which can be bought from GOG for $6"  :p

It does say that on the first page of this thread where you download Turey's installer at.
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Post by: GTSVA on December 31, 2008, 07:18:19 am
well in that case I think the wording of the OP should be changed to something more like "you must have retail FS2, which can be bought from GOG for $6"  :p

It does say that on the first page of this thread where you download Turey's installer at.

Wait....GOG?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 31, 2008, 07:29:17 am
well in that case I think the wording of the OP should be changed to something more like "you must have retail FS2, which can be bought from GOG for $6"  :p

It does say that on the first page of this thread where you download Turey's installer at.

Wait....GOG?
wat
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Post by: General Battuta on December 31, 2008, 08:20:28 am
Good Old Games. You can buy fresh, DRM-free copies of Freespace 2 there, which is why the installer no longer supplies the retail FS2 files.
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Post by: wolfen on December 31, 2008, 03:17:11 pm
Good Old Games. You can buy fresh, DRM-free copies of Freespace 2 there, which is why the installer no longer supplies the retail FS2 files.

And its cheap too, I have had FS and FS2 since they weer first released and the last place I saw them out in public was at Walmart in the 9.99 section of video games, so I just ordered myself a copy of both games :)
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Post by: Epislon on January 01, 2009, 05:43:42 pm
Grrr  :hopping: the Full works takes an age to download... My connection is 2.4 MB/ps and i can do 1 GB in 7mins 6 seconds and so far i have been updating for half an hour... and i have a feeling that im not even half way though... don't suppose you could find i nice mirror... HAAAAAAAAAAAA... I have just finshed the 710 ZATA media VP's and I am now just starting on the other 710 advanced ZATA media VP's...

 :mad:

I think im going to complete Pokemon gold again
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Post by: wolfen on January 01, 2009, 07:20:21 pm
So I guess If I tel you how fast I can download it you'd be either really jealous or mad at me?
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Post by: dragonsniper on January 01, 2009, 09:23:56 pm
My connection is 2.4 MB/ps
:eek2: lucky. Mine took around 6 hours (and that's with the "old" 850 MB Vp's instead of the new 1GB VP's.)
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Post by: vp21ct on January 01, 2009, 11:36:36 pm
Ok, I may have screwed up, I hope I didn't.

I downloaded the FSO installer and installed BEFORE noticing the big friendly letters that told me I had to have a retail copy of FS2 first.

I am Downloading FS2 from GOG.com now, what I want to know is this:

1 Does this mean that I have to download FSO all over again.

2 How do I install FSO if I have purchased FS2 from GOG and do not have the discs, as the friendly Wiki Page implied was neccisary.

3 Do I need FS2 in order to run FS1 port on FSO or can I do that anyways.


thank you have a nice day.
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Post by: chief1983 on January 02, 2009, 12:28:32 am
I just rewrote a large chunk of the Wiki instructions for the installation process, could you please be more specific about which part was confusing so I can expand on it?

If you already installed FSO somewhere, either install FS2 from the GOG exe file to that directory, or copy everything from that directory to where you install the GOG version.  The FSO installer just adds files to the existing FS2 install directory, so you can just combine them.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 02, 2009, 02:18:58 am
Ok, I may have screwed up, I hope I didn't.
You didn't.

Quote
1 Does this mean that I have to download FSO all over again.
As chief1983 said, no. Either install FS2 over your current FSO installation or install FS2 somewhere and copy/move all the FSO stuff to the FS2 installation.

Quote
2 How do I install FSO if I have purchased FS2 from GOG and do not have the discs, as the friendly Wiki Page implied was neccisary.
The same way. You just have a no-disc version at your disposal. Actually, on the Support board you can find a manual for installing FSO. A manual that I wrote with my own blood.

Quote
3 Do I need FS2 in order to run FS1 port on FSO or can I do that anyways.
FSPort is designed so that it runs with FS2, but additional features are achieved when playing it with FSO. But yes, FS2 is an absolute must.
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Post by: vp21ct on January 02, 2009, 08:20:01 am
yay, Thank you.
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Post by: wolfen on January 02, 2009, 03:38:58 pm
I just finished burning my copy of FS and FS 2 that I got from GOG onto disks, replacing my old ones that were just about non readable anymore anyway, but just for the record, heres what i do when i download the latest and greatest installer from here, I burn the installer onto a rewritable disk every time , just in case.
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Post by: monkseatcheese on January 13, 2009, 08:15:23 pm
i might have screwed up, or maybe my original copy is bad, but i just installed FSO, and when i try to run, its missing a dll. OpenAl32.dll to be exact. after it says the program is not working and must be closed, it says it cannot read flags. im running vista 64 if thats a problem.
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Post by: eliex on January 13, 2009, 08:31:06 pm
Download and install this: OpenAl32 Installer (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/latest/oalinst.exe)

It install your missing .dll.  :)
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 14, 2009, 03:17:20 am
 :(
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Post by: wolfen on January 14, 2009, 05:29:50 pm
Download and install this: OpenAl32 Installer (http://fs2source.warpcore.org/exes/latest/oalinst.exe)

It install your missing .dll.  :)

OOOhhhhh the open al Instaler, I can use that too thanks man, this one single link completes my new and inproved  computer utilities disk :)
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Post by: Turey on January 15, 2009, 04:31:25 pm
In case you didn't notice, I finally got around to adding in the 3.6.10 mediavps. I haven't tested them, and I'm not going to, so tell me if you have any problems not already addressed in the mediavp thread.

Anyway, I probably won't be doing much this quarter, since I'm currently enrolled in the most difficult class in the entire computer science department. I'm halfway through my first project, which is writing a series of test cases to catch 21/26 bugs in a program, except we have no idea where the bugs are, and it's a huge program. So far I've found 10 bugs, and the project is due 7am Monday.
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Post by: wolfen on January 15, 2009, 07:43:39 pm
Well Turey, so far the 3.10 Media vp's work just right on my computer. the only problem I'm having is my lack of speaker volume since my sound card bit the dust last week.
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Post by: Wobble73 on January 16, 2009, 10:23:07 am
Well Turey, so far the 3.10 Media vp's work just right on my computer. the only problem I'm having is my lack of speaker volume since my sound card bit the dust last week.

I don't think Turey can help you there!  :P  :lol:
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Post by: wolfen on January 16, 2009, 03:02:39 pm
I don't think so either, my FS problem requires about $30 for a new sound card, or I can always reinstall teh realtek sound driver that I used when I first slicked vista off here and installed XP
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 17, 2009, 04:29:23 pm
Noticed one small problem with the 3.6.10 MediaVP part of the installer.  If you have the MV_Complete.vp it doesn't notice it and adds the individual files to the download list. 
Title: Re: freespace 2 instalation
Post by: Pete on January 17, 2009, 06:17:18 pm
hello, i am trying to install freespace 2 but i dont know how the derelict works:

REQUIREMENTS AND NOTES
You can update your installation by simply running the Installer again. It will only download files that are out of date.

The Installer requires an internet connection to install. This is because:
1. It checks to see if it is out of date by pulling the number of the most recent version off of the web.
2. It automatically takes you to the download page of the most recent version if your version is out of date.
3. It makes sure all the files are up-to-date.

This Installer SHOULD work on top of an old self-installed FreeSpace Open setup, but I don't take any responsibility in the unlikely event that it screws up something.

The Installer now includes a Derelict option. However, if you installed Derelict yourself, you may need to stick this into your Derelict folder to make Derelict work with this Installer.



Can anyone help me, i am new at this

Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: ssmit132 on January 17, 2009, 06:48:00 pm
Do you already have Derelict and FreeSpace Open before running the installer?

If so, create a Derelict folder in your FreeSpace 2 folder, and put Derelict's files in there. The FSO executables go in FS2's root directory. If you have any MediaVPs, make a MediaVPs folder in your FS2 folder ant put those in there. Use the FSO Launcher to configure FSO, by selecting your mod folder as your Derelict one.

I wouldn't know how to help if you're using the installer now, I haven't used it myself.
Title: PLEASE HELP
Post by: Blase Von B on January 19, 2009, 01:55:54 pm
I only find now fs2 open, i played this game years ago ... nowodays i dont have time to computer games but for this ....

SO THE PROBLEM: i downloaded and installed 3.6.9. i start the luncher put mediavps into the mod section and run, the problem is that when i go to play singleplayer its start the filling process than it brokes down and exit to windows and nothing happenes :S WHY???? please help me cos i wanto to try the new graphics :S

so thx for help!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on January 19, 2009, 02:01:12 pm
Do you have the retail files in your main FreeSpace2 folder? root_fs2.vp , sparky_fs2.vp etcetera?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 19, 2009, 02:05:40 pm
Quote from: the bestest person at HLP
  • Download the latest nightly build from the Nightly Builds Board (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,173.0.html) if you haven't already and place the .exe files to your \freespace2\ folder.
  • Switch to windowed mode (open the Launcher, open the Features tab, select Dev Tools from the pulldown menu and tick on "Run in window").
  • Run a debug build (a build that ends with the word "debug", ends with the letter "d" or has the letter "d" immediately after the "3_6_10" part). If you've been experiencing crashes, do exactly what you've done previously, up until it crashes. If you have had other issues, it is sufficient to run it until you get to the Main Hall.
  • Quit the game.
  • Find fs2_open.log from \freespace2\data\, copy it to a safe location and include it to your post, either as an attachment (click Additional Options when posting) or using the "code" tags.
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Post by: Blase Von B on January 19, 2009, 02:23:02 pm
yes they are there!
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Post by: Blase Von B on January 19, 2009, 02:41:05 pm
the retail files are there!

if i am using fs2_open_3_6_9_debug.exe than it sends some error massange
first when i start the game:
illegal to have two spawn types for one weapon. Ignoring weapon shiven cluster, ... line 1532 .... (and so on ...)
but i can countinue game when i click to don't break into debugger.

secont when i click in start single campagne and starts loading, than its crashes:
 Mp[len + 1]=='\''
j:\scr\fs_2open_3_5_9.final\code\parse\sexp.cpp    (and so on ....)
amd here i can click only to break into debugger and than the game exit to windows!!!

When i use fs2_open_3_6_9.exe than there are no error windows only the game exit to windows when its starts the loading process.

PLEASE HEEEEEEELP
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 19, 2009, 02:52:27 pm
You missed the last and most important part:
Quote
Find fs2_open.log from \freespace2\data\, copy it to a safe location and include it to your post, either as an attachment (click Additional Options when posting) or using the "code" tags.

Completely unrelated edit: does the Installer download the FSPort MediaVPs and if yes, how does it do it? I'm hoping there is a big note (like font size 42 or something) saying that the FSPort MediaVPs require the 3.6.10 MediaVPs unconditionally or they won't work properly. There seems to be a surge of tecg support issues related to the fact that people are not aware of this detail.
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Post by: Christopherger on January 24, 2009, 07:04:51 pm
I have the 3.6.8 Media VPs currently. do i need to get the 3.6.10 to run my install which is 3.6.10?

i think i was being conservative when i dl that version of the VP's as i have an older system (AMD 3400 2.4 GHz and 3 GB RAM, FX 7600 GT.....

info appreciated on this. (Lobo's post got my attention....  ;) )
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Post by: Jeff Vader on January 25, 2009, 02:46:36 am
Wouldn't hurt. As a comparison, I'm running the 3.6.10 MediaVPs (without AdvEffects) on a laptop with Intel Core Duo ~1.6GHz, 1 GB RAM and Mobility Radeon X1600. Works fine, just a little stuttering on the more hectic battles.

To play it safe, do things like this:
- Remove or just move away your current MediaVPs.
- Empty \freespace2\data\cache\ and all \freespace2\[MODFOLDER]\data\cache\ folders. Especially the one under \mediavps\.
- Download the 3.6.10 MediaVPs manually from the release thread. Use the torrents or the Sectorgame links. The Installer has had difficulties in downloading them.
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Post by: -Joshua- on January 26, 2009, 06:30:20 am
I have the 3.6.8 Media VPs currently. do i need to get the 3.6.10 to run my install which is 3.6.10?

i think i was being conservative when i dl that version of the VP's as i have an older system (AMD 3400 2.4 GHz and 3 GB RAM, FX 7600 GT.....

info appreciated on this. (Lobo's post got my attention....  ;) )

In case you fear any problems, just download the seperate VP files, and remove Advanced Effects when things get slow. I think your system is capable of running the 3.6.10 MVP's just fine.
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Post by: CrownJules on February 12, 2009, 04:34:28 am
Hello, thanks for this great program.
Just one question, sorry if this has come up before. Basically I'm playing FS2 at 1280x720 resolution, however when I turn my ship the background image (Nebulas etc) moves as though its very close to the ship, it looks very odd, has this been encountered before? It doesn't happen on 1280x1024.
Many thanks in advance!
Crown Jules
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Post by: Jeff Vader on February 12, 2009, 04:41:19 am
That would be the "wandering suns" syndrome present in anything from retail to FSO 3.6.9. And it does happen with 1280x1024, just to a smaller extent. Widescreen resolutions show it most clearly. Download the latest nightly build from the Nightly Builds board (link in my signature) and use it.
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Post by: Wobble73 on February 12, 2009, 04:46:55 am
Hello, thanks for this great program.
Just one question, sorry if this has come up before. Basically I'm playing FS2 at 1280x720 resolution, however when I turn my ship the background image (Nebulas etc) moves as though its very close to the ship, it looks very odd, has this been encountered before? It doesn't happen on 1280x1024.
Many thanks in advance!
Crown Jules

I assume you are playing on a widescreen monitor. That's because FSO isn't great at non-4:3 resolutions which 1280x720 is, stick to 1280x1024 (a 4:3 resolutions) which may stretch the image a bit but won't have wandering suns and nebulae.

I thought a fix had been implemented in recent builds, but I may be mistaken. You could try going to the recent builds forum and downloading the latest nightly build for windows and see if that fixes it!

*Edit* Lobo got there first as usual!
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Post by: Jeff Vader on February 12, 2009, 04:48:40 am
1280x1024 (a 4:3 resolutions)
Actually, if you do the math, 1280x1024 is 5:4.
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Post by: Wobble73 on February 12, 2009, 04:53:22 am
1280x1024 (a 4:3 resolutions)
Actually, if you do the math, 1280x1024 is 5:4.

Beg your pardon, I thought it was, close enough!  :p  ;)
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Post by: CrownJules on February 12, 2009, 05:11:02 am
Thanks chaps, will try out nightly nights and let you know how it goes.

PS god that was a fast answere!
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Post by: CrownJules on February 12, 2009, 05:36:28 am
Hmm, I downloaded the latest Nightly Builds (.exes) do I change their names to delete the old ones?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on February 12, 2009, 05:39:20 am
Open the Launcher, click Browse, select the .exe that starts with "fs2_open_3_6_10r", Apply the changes and Run the game.
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Post by: Wobble73 on February 12, 2009, 06:23:46 am
Hmm, I downloaded the latest Nightly Builds (.exes) do I change their names to delete the old ones?
There's no need to delete the old one's (unless you desperate for hard drive space that is, even then they don't take up that much space), they should have a different filename than the previous version you downloaded.
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Post by: Mongoose on February 16, 2009, 04:56:56 pm
Just a note that I've split off a few posts responding to a problem Al Tarket was experiencing to this topic (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,61030.0.html) in the FS Support forum.  For future reference, any technical issues that don't specifically involve the use of Turey's installer should most likely be posted there.
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Post by: SPECTRE87 on March 09, 2009, 05:48:44 am
Hmm, I didn't recall that you have to pay to get FS2 SCP...  :confused:
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 09, 2009, 05:54:43 am
You do now. Back in 2005, you didn't.

And then GOG came along, so everything has changed.
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Post by: SPECTRE87 on March 09, 2009, 06:17:40 am
Damn  :mad:... Well at least that explains why my installation doesn't work at all.
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Post by: Herra Tohtori on March 09, 2009, 09:37:11 am
Hmm, I didn't recall that you have to pay to get FS2 SCP...  :confused:

Technically... You don't. FS2_Open developed by Source Code Project is free to get. MediaVP's developed by FreeSpace Upgrade team are free to get. All community-developed mods and stuff is free to get. Trying to ask for payment of these things would probably be called upon pretty soon by the powers that be...

However, you do need to own the original FreeSpace2 data for any of this stuff to be of any use to you (excluding total conversions and other standalone mods). For the longest of time, this gem of gaming was not feasibly available, so it was kind of accepted as a necessary evil to distribute the game data in one way or another. This changed when GoodOldGames begun to re-distribute the game among others at very reasonable price, so that is why things are as they are.
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Post by: SPECTRE87 on March 09, 2009, 10:39:18 am
Well, so I invested the money in the retail to get the MVPs, but after downloading the lot of it all I get is the same contents, which seems a bit odd. Are the MVPs corrupted in this downloader? I remember the last time I used this (years ago) it went all smooth and I had no problems in getting the MVPs to work, but now  :confused:
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Post by: General Battuta on March 09, 2009, 03:26:12 pm
You need to select the 'mediavps' folder in the Launcher.

And you need to actually run the game through the Launcher using a 3.6.10 build.

We'll walk you through it if you need any more help.
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Post by: Wobble73 on March 09, 2009, 05:10:54 pm
I believe that there is currently a problem with the installer downloading corrupt mediavps. Check Lobo's signature for links to direct downloads to get the mediavps.  ;)
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 09, 2009, 08:09:35 pm
I do it manually, which always works.
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Post by: psychuil on March 11, 2009, 04:38:30 pm
My installer's been stuck at "downloading: c:\games\freespace\FS2OGGcuscenepack.vp 80%" for like 6 hours now, what should i do?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 04, 2009, 05:09:09 pm
Cancel, restart the Installer but deselect the cutscenes. After the Installer has finished, download the cutscenes (.ogg or .mve) from freespacemods.net.
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 04, 2009, 10:47:29 pm
One more thing.

/me fires his BABeam at psychuil.

(http://v4belg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pdVxrIa1OfLmW9_SBW29TsPjxNXdQCkrLX2Svkj9V8ubocndu7lhv8pSPR5MPcO3d6NSnDDgYrGwk3YkottJPhA/WelcomeAncient.png)
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Post by: GTSVA on April 06, 2009, 08:57:30 pm
That's an awesome beam.
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Post by: Rhymes on April 06, 2009, 10:01:51 pm
He's an Ancient.  Makes sense that he'd have an Ancient ship's beam.  :P
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Post by: Starclopsofish on April 10, 2009, 06:42:04 pm
Hi, I'm on Arch Linux 64-bit. I can't get the game to run. I used the installer to install to ~/FS2SCP. All of the information on installation is very scattered, do I still need some retail files? (Yes, I own the game, and have the discs.)  If so, which files, and where do I put them? All of the tuts are windows-centric and just tell you to install the game first, which obviously isn't possible on Linux. Furthermore, when I try to run the game from the command line, it yells about not having openal, which I do have. I assume I need to make a symlink or something, but I have no idea where it's looking for it in the first place.

Thanks in advance!
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Post by: Rhymes on April 10, 2009, 07:24:03 pm
:welcomered:
 
Did you check the wiki?  There's an entire Linux guide there.   Just in case: http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Guide_to_FS_Open_on_Linux

There's the guide, hope it helps.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 11, 2009, 01:52:35 am
Basically you'll need all the .vp files from the disks. And of course a Linux build (check the FSO 2.6.10 RC2 link in my signature). Once you have those, and the things you've downloaded so far, you should be able to play. And since you'll then have a Linux build, you won't need to WINE it.
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Post by: Starclopsofish on April 11, 2009, 03:02:20 pm
Thanks, I managed to install the game in Wine, and I copied the data folder over to where I'm attempting the Linux install. Is this all that's needed from the CD? (I couldn't get the script to work.) Also, does that binary work on 64-bit? It's complaining about the wrong ELF type...

EDIT: Copied the rest of the files and now the game starts (I had to use the RC1 Executable, I guess I'll just have to compile a 64 bit binary for the final release). So do I need any extra files to tweak graphical settings, resolution, etc? Thanks a lot, sorry for the trouble.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 11, 2009, 03:18:06 pm
Thanks, I managed to install the game in Wine, and I copied the data folder over to where I'm attempting the Linux install. Is this all that's needed from the CD?
...
EDIT: Copied the rest of the files and now the game starts
The emphasis is on the .vp files. They are container files and have the majority of the data used by the game.

So do I need any extra files to tweak graphical settings, resolution, etc? Thanks a lot, sorry for the trouble.
The MediaVPs contain awesome graphical improvements. A list of command-line options is available here (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Command-Line_Reference). There is also some kind of a Launcher for Linux (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53206.0.html), if you want to try it.
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Post by: Starclopsofish on April 11, 2009, 04:43:06 pm
Cool, most seem to work fine, but I can't figure out how to change the resolution... I read somewhere that it was -res, but I'm not sure on the actual usage.

-res 1920 1200?

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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 11, 2009, 04:50:41 pm
A not-so-quick search would suggest that the format is -res 1920x1200 .
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Post by: colecampbell666 on April 11, 2009, 07:02:20 pm
Also read the thread in my sig on prettiness, get the 3.6.10 MediaVPs, and have fun. What GPU do you have?
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Post by: chief1983 on April 11, 2009, 09:45:30 pm
I make no claims about the binary working well on anything other than 32bit Ubuntu derivatives, although I'm sure most 32bit platforms can run it.  64bit I don't know enough about to even say whether or not it should run.  Perhaps the environment lacks the necessary support to run a 32bit binary, or there's something particularly wrong with the build, I can't say.  I can say that I do suggest compiling your own build on linux as opposed to using the released ones, it's probably more reliable.  Just get the revision from SVN stated in a release thread if you want to make sure it matches, we may even put up a source checkout at some point for ease of compiling.
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Post by: Grimper on April 28, 2009, 05:23:19 am
Have the corrupted VPs in the installer been fixed yet?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 28, 2009, 06:22:24 am
Not yet.
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on April 28, 2009, 06:59:21 am
Have the corrupted VPs in the installer been fixed yet?

Go ask Turey, but he hasn't been around since January the last time I checked his profile.
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Post by: Jeff Vader on April 28, 2009, 10:41:52 am
As I've understood it, Zacam will reupload the MediaVPs once (FSO) 3.6.10 is released.
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Post by: Divmontru on May 12, 2009, 08:04:34 pm
Well, I have Vista 64 and tried this installer and none of the content seems to work (FS 2 retail still just works).
The installer first asked, for some reason, for me to click on a folder (without option to browse yet) with only one option available:
c:/Games/Freespace 2 or something, so I clicked on it out of no other choice, then it allowed me to browse to the location of were the retail, dowloaded and installed FS2 from gog.com was and it downloaded put oodles of stuff there.
The launcher and other apps say OpenAL32.dll was not found.
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Post by: General Battuta on May 12, 2009, 08:29:26 pm
Sounds like you need to install OpenAL! It's required for the sound and graphics.
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Post by: colecampbell666 on May 12, 2009, 08:30:44 pm
Install OpenAL from my sig. Did you read the post-install notes?
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Post by: Jeff Vader on May 13, 2009, 01:21:32 am
The launcher and other apps say OpenAL32.dll was not found.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,56279.0.html

It's required for the sound and graphics.
Sound. GL is related to graphics.
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Post by: Divmontru on May 13, 2009, 09:55:27 pm
Install OpenAL from my sig. Did you read the post-install notes?

Dude, thanks -- I got the OpenAL per your advice and sig, but as far as the post-install notes, I don't mean to be a blockhead, but I never found them. I just see an old readme from FS2 and a bunch of new stuff that's not .txt, .pdf. etc.

the new launcher works... now, if I can just get the game to see my dang joystick which it still doesn't seem to do
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Post by: colecampbell666 on May 14, 2009, 01:52:47 pm
They come up on the installer after it says "Done".

As for the stick, the stick options are under the "Audio" tab.
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Post by: Silencer on October 06, 2009, 08:37:18 pm
I'm sorry for possibly being an idiot, but I can't seem to get the installer to work. I installed Freespace 2 retail into a directory I chose, I pointed the installer to that directory, click next, and.... nothing. It's just blank with the progress stuck at 0%. I'm running Win7 x64 RC.
What's the simple thing I'm missing?
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Post by: The E on October 07, 2009, 12:22:19 am
Hmm. Could be the installer site being down. Unfortunately, it doesn't give out error reports, AFAICT. My only suggestion would be to try again later, or install the FS2_Open goodies manually (Or use the offline installer packages).
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Post by: Turey on October 07, 2009, 10:36:43 am
Hmm. Could be the installer site being down. Unfortunately, it doesn't give out error reports, AFAICT. My only suggestion would be to try again later, or install the FS2_Open goodies manually (Or use the offline installer packages).

Error logs show up in <FreeSpace2 Folder>/Installer. Please post installer_error.log.txt and installer_status.log.txt
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Post by: Silencer on October 07, 2009, 05:12:59 pm
Error logs show up in <FreeSpace2 Folder>/Installer. Please post installer_error.log.txt and installer_status.log.txt

Thanks Turey. Your statement gave me some good clues, and I was able to get it to work. Now for my next issue. When I choose to download "The Works", it says that a config file from "http://www.axemspace.com/files/install/axem.txt" could not be found and that the installation might not work, but the missing files could be downloaded later. I tried accessing that address through my browser, but indeed I got a 404 webpage not found error. What files is that referring to? Can I manually add them afterward?
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Post by: Turey on October 07, 2009, 05:23:43 pm
Thanks Turey. Your statement gave me some good clues, and I was able to get it to work. Now for my next issue. When I choose to download "The Works", it says that a config file from "http://www.axemspace.com/files/install/axem.txt" could not be found and that the installation might not work, but the missing files could be downloaded later. I tried accessing that address through my browser, but indeed I got a 404 webpage not found error. What files is that referring to? Can I manually add them afterward?

I'm not sure why that file is down, Axem seems to be doing some strange things with his website. It includes the Just Another Day campaigns, as designed by Axem, and they can be manually added afterward like any other mod.
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Post by: chief1983 on October 07, 2009, 07:14:41 pm
Axemspace is down until further notice.
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Post by: haloboy100 on November 12, 2009, 12:03:50 am
what's the status of the installer as of now? I notice that on the front page of this thread, it is stated that it contains 3.6.9, yet on the website it says 3.6.10.
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Post by: Goober5000 on November 13, 2009, 12:53:29 am
There are far too many places where the same information is listed... and not all those places are kept to the same level of up-to-date-ness.

The website is correct; the installer contains 3.6.10.
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Post by: wolfen on November 13, 2009, 06:32:59 pm
I think I have version 10 of Freespace's installer, I haven't downloaded or updated since my last post on this thread, and so far everything is running 5X5
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Post by: Ampodayas on December 16, 2009, 06:24:40 pm
Ok, so I'm having a couple issues with the installer (If there is another thread for installer problems, feel free to direct me to it, I could not find it)

When trying to install certain parts (homesick mod, fs1 cutscenes, multiplayer missions, and multiplayer voices) it fails. (The installer finishes it just gives me the "you may need to run the installer again because there was an error with this section warning)

When I looked at the error log, I found it had thrown a FileNotFound Exception (no files at the requested sites)

So while this isn't a huge deal, could someone either point at an updated installer (If I missed it) or tell me where these various files can be located and where I need to put them in my FreeSpace2 directory for this to work (I looked at the manual install guide but it was missing where to put cutscenes and multiplayer stuff)

Any other suggestions/courses of action I can take to fix this would be great as well

(Note:  These happened with installations on both WinXP and Win7, and trying win& with and without compatibility mode turned on)

I attached the WinXP log to this post

Thanks!

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Post by: wolfen on December 16, 2009, 06:35:37 pm
That's weird cause when I use the installer it always puts everything in the right place.
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Post by: Ampodayas on December 16, 2009, 07:07:54 pm
Yeah I know.  I've tried running it again a couple times with the same effect.  I am installing "The Works".  When I manually navigated to one of the sites it was trying to reach, I got a 404 error, and working from teh root site I eventually got to a page showing files - except there were none, just a link back to the parent directory.
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Post by: Goober5000 on December 16, 2009, 11:50:13 pm
That's not a problem with the Installer; it's the problem with the people who set up those file downloads.  The Installer merely goes where it's told, and if people let their hosting die, the Installer has no control over that.

Now granted the Installer should probably have a more helpful error message.  But the only way to get those files, if they're no longer hosted, is to find someone who downloaded them previously.
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Post by: Ampodayas on December 17, 2009, 01:04:46 am
This is true, its not the installer's fault, already knew that :).  The only thing directly related to the installer would be if I had an out-of-date version, which I don't believe is the case, I downloaded it last week.  And only putting error messages in a log in order to not interrupt program flow is perfectly understandable.  Also, now doing more searching, apparently there is an offline version of this installer, so I'm going to give that a try.

Thanks for your help/suggestions!
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Post by: Jeff Vader on December 17, 2009, 01:36:16 am
Also, now doing more searching, apparently there is an offline version of this installer
Akshully, there is no offline version of this installer, but indeed there are alternative methods for installing FSO. The stickied threads here (and on the support board) include valid installation methods, and each one has links to the other ones.
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Post by: wolfen on December 17, 2009, 03:23:44 pm
I always get the installer from either page 1 of this thread, or I link to tureys webpage and download it from there, which transfers me right back here anyway LOL
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Post by: jr2 on December 24, 2009, 08:38:15 am
It would be kind of cool if one of the coding geniuses here could code a bittorrent client into Turey's... it's Java, so I know it can be done, the open-source client Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) (now Vuze) is Java-based.  Then we could have volunteers run the client in SuperSeeding (always seeding and prioritize peers that can download and share faster to increase total speed) mode and just have the installer download from the hosted sites and if it gets a 404 on all alternates, finish what it can by regular means and initialize a torrent download of the rest of the files.  When the installer finishes, give the client an option to seed for a specified amount of time (none thru Merry Christmas forever keep it alive always) or data upload amount.

Just a thought.
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Post by: wolfen on December 24, 2009, 09:35:05 am
I dunno about bit torrents, I'm kinda leery about downloading different parts from different places.
I tried downloading a game once ( free) from a bit torrent and I wound up with a couple of nasty little programs that the computer owner didn't' know he had.Another time I used bit torrent I downloaded another game ( free as well) but I got the game owners personal preferences also, so I spent three days redoing the game
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Post by: The E on December 24, 2009, 09:41:37 am
Bittorrent would be a good idea, but it requires a consistent amount of people seeding the content. Unless you have lots of seeders, your download speed will be lower or equal to regular hosted downloads.

At any rate, a rewrite of the installer is planned. We'll see what distribution method makes the most sense then.
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Post by: jr2 on December 24, 2009, 12:28:22 pm
I dunno about bit torrents, I'm kinda leery about downloading different parts from different places.
I tried downloading a game once ( free) from a bit torrent and I wound up with a couple of nasty little programs that the computer owner didn't' know he had.Another time I used bit torrent I downloaded another game ( free as well) but I got the game owners personal preferences also, so I spent three days redoing the game

They didn't know how to do it... if you're coding the torrent client ofc you know how torrents work.  Torrents are validated by hash - you will get absolutely what you are supposed to and it will be exactly the same on each machine.  However, if the original source is messed up, you will all get exactly that.  Apparently whoever made the torrent wasn't careful or didn't know what they were doing.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 24, 2009, 02:30:34 pm
If that's the case then I probably wouldn't be afraid to download anything by torrent from anybody on this forum.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Dark RevenantX on December 24, 2009, 04:35:31 pm
I've got a basic installer available on my site (has the mediavps and such, but doesn't contain campaigns aside from FreeSpace Port and ST:R) for the time being:

Click Here (http://comclan.co.cc/xsera/FreeSpace%202%20Upgrade%20Installer.exe)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on December 25, 2009, 08:09:25 am
I'll keep this page bookmarked, might be good to have more than one installer on my computer, I made a separate sub folder in the Freespace Downloads folder ( yea I have one) and I'll keep your installer in there as I have collected just about every installer anybody has put out so far, and I collected the mods back before GoG re-released FS

I have the shivan installer, Tureys installer, and I'll get yours later this weekend
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: maddog on November 10, 2010, 04:46:10 pm
I just wanted to confirm what had been noted in a bug report (I couldn't find a way to reply to it since it was only the print version): The Wondrous Installer of Turey the diminutive Turambar downloads a Mac binary that doesn't have the executable bit set. Simple to fix for someone with a little know-how (and the wit to check the console) but it would be nice if it were fixed.

On the other hand, if it isn't fixed, it would be nice to keep a note (maybe appended to the readme/sales sheet) telling Mac users what to do if the program doesn't run.

In Terminal (or equivalent)
Code: [Select]
chmod +x /Applications/FreeSpace2/FS2_Open-Inferno\ 3.6.12.app/Contents/MacOS/FS2_Open-Inferno
Understand that the path here is representative only, and you should replace /Applications/FreeSpace2/ with whatever is appropriate for your installation.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: wolfen on January 26, 2011, 09:50:34 am
Ok I'm downloading the installer again I lost the hard drive so I'm back to scouring  the threads again. Is there any special links I need to places on here?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Molaris on September 18, 2011, 03:16:17 pm
any idea when it could be 100% again?!? I'm dying to play FS2O again!!!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on September 18, 2011, 07:53:00 pm
We've contacted the owner of the Installer web site.  He hasn't responded yet, but the domain hasn't expired either.  Hopefully it'll be back up soon.

In the meantime, I'll try to fast-track the completion of the new installer.  It was already programmed in anticipation of one of the installer websites going offline, so it will be able to handle this if it happens in the future.

Incidentally, the installer isn't required to play FSO.  If you have FreeSpace 2 installed on your machine, just download a recent FSO build and play it.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MatthTheGeek on September 18, 2011, 08:43:17 pm
Just follow this guide (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=47640.0).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 18, 2011, 10:34:55 pm
Is the installer not working right now?  The site itself is running fine for me.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on September 18, 2011, 10:52:16 pm
That's what I get for not checking the website.  Last time it was down, but Turey seems to have put it back up without telling anyone.  The installer won't work without the ability to download the list of mod files from the site.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: chief1983 on September 18, 2011, 11:02:29 pm
It was down when Hunter's domains expired, but that was at least a couple weeks ago.  It's been up since they all came back up I thought, unless there was another outage I missed.  But I don't think Turey has even as much to do with it as Hunter does these days, does he?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on September 19, 2011, 11:18:46 am
Dunno.  Turey hasn't responded to any of my requests for clarification.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 20, 2011, 06:41:11 am
We've contacted the owner of the Installer web site.

Turey?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on September 20, 2011, 09:52:13 pm
So I presume.  I probably should have put "author" rather than "owner".
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MrTealTwo on October 01, 2011, 12:06:18 pm
Just follow this guide (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=47640.0).

I second this :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on October 09, 2011, 08:43:28 pm
Do you guys have any idea how intimidating that wall of instructions would seem to anyone not well-versed in computers?

I'm betting two out of three people that hadn't actually experienced FreeSpace and really wanted more would simply give up right there.

I copy + pasted the install instructions to MS Word.

You have to use size 5 font to get it to fit on one page, after you attack the margins to get it to use the whole page.

Worth it?  Sure.

Really that hard?  Not really.

How is the average Joe supposed to know that this is worth his time and not a waste of effort when he's used to making snap decisions as to whether something is worth their time in the first 2-3 seconds after loading a search result?

I don't know.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: MatthTheGeek on October 10, 2011, 01:17:27 am
And we should give a f*ck about that why ?

I mean, if people don't have the motivation to install FSO, they don't have the motivation to install FSO. There's nothing we can do about that.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: zookeeper on October 10, 2011, 01:36:51 am
And we should give a f*ck about that why ?

I mean, if people don't have the motivation to install FSO, they don't have the motivation to install FSO. There's nothing we can do about that.

...except make them more motivated to install FSO by making it less intimidating.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jg18 on October 10, 2011, 02:07:03 am
If a mod or admin would be so good as to give me a copy of the source of the "instructions for real men" post, I'll propose a revised version that communicates the same information (more or less) in fewer words, while preserving the original version's style as much as possible. [I can't get the source because the thread is locked, meaning that there's no "Quote" button to press.]

Thanks.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 10, 2011, 08:32:01 am
Unlocked.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jg18 on October 10, 2011, 03:30:15 pm
Thanks, Vader.

How's this? I didn't want to put it in the official thread, since no one else has looked at it yet.



This installation method is the one where you download everything yourself and then put things where they should go. It may sound scary, but it really isn't.

Other methods include:
- Turey's FreeSpace Open Installer (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=61606.0) (DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY AT THE MOMENT)
- Manual installation on Linux / Mac OS X (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=60842.0)



Below is an ~8-step list of instructions for installing FreeSpace Open (FSO) on Windows the manly way. The orange steps are absolutely necessary and there is no way to skip them. All other steps are optional.

If you encounter problems, please read the Troubleshooting FAQ (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56279.0).

Step 1) Install FS2
Install the game to C:\Games\FreeSpace2\ unless you have a really good reason to choose a different location, in which case see the notes at the end of these instructions.
If you already have a directory named C:\Games\FreeSpace2\, either delete it or rename it to C:\Games\FreeSpace2old\ before installing FS2.
Why? Because FSO is just a game engine. Think about it. If you go to the automobile store and buy an engine, it won't do you much good; you need the rest of the car as well.

Step 2) Get OpenAL
Download and install OpenAL (http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx), which is a free audio library. Choose the one labeled OpenAL Installer for Windows.
Why? Because FSO uses OpenAL for producing the sound. FSO won't work without OpenAL. At all.

Step 3) Get 7-Zip (recommended)
Download and install 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/download.html), a free program that will allow you to uncompress a wide range of compressed file formats.
Why? Because many of the things you might want to download, including most mods, are compressed using formats that Windows can't handle on its own, such as .rar and .7z. If you get 7-Zip, which can handle these file formats, you'll never have to worry about being unable to uncompress any files you download.

Step 4) Get the latest trustworthy FSO build and the launcher
Get the 3.6.12 Final Inferno build and a launcher from the release thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70692).
If you want to try a more recent but possibly unstable build called a "nightly build," or if you want to know what "Inferno" means, see the notes at the end of these instructions.
Why? Because a "build" is a version of the open source game engine, or FSO engine. It is the single most important element of FreeSpace Open. You'll also need the launcher to configure the game, as you'll see later.

Step 5) Move the cutscenes to \FreeSpace2\data\movies\
If you got your copy of FS2 from Good Old Games, the cutscenes are located somewhere in \FreeSpace2\data2\ or \FreeSpace2\data3\ or some other folder with the name "data<some number>". They're the .mve files. Move them to \FreeSpace2\data\movies\ .
Want to save a little disk space with the cutscenes? See the notes at the end of these instructions.
Why? Because FSO can only read the cutscenes from that folder.

Step 6) Get the MediaVPs (also recommended)
If you want FS2 to look its prettiest, download the MediaVPs, which are a compilation of graphical enhancements, including high-poly models, improved textures, and new effects.
Most mods require the 3.6.12 MediaVPs (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70736.0), but some older mods might only work with the 3.6.10 MediaVPs (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=65038.0).
Why? Because they look like totally cool.

Step 7) Set things up
Open the launcher, which you downloaded in step 4.
Click on the "Browse" button at the top of the launcher.
Select the build you want to use. This is the FSO game engine you downloaded in step 4. Select the one whose file name begins with "fs2_open_3_6_12r", such as fs2_open_3_6_12r.exe or fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2.exe or so on.
If you got a nightly build (see the notes at the end for a description), select the build that starts with "fs2_open_3_6_13r", such as fs2_open_3_6_13r_INF-20110909_r7690.exe.
Want to know what the "r" means? See the notes at the end of these instructions.
Open the Audio/Joystick tab and make sure that Generic Software is selected. If you have a joystick, you can also check that it has been detected properly.
Open the Video tab and make sure that 32-bit colour depth is selected.
Click "Apply" at the bottom of the launcher to apply the changes.
Why? Because we assume that you'd want to avoid any problems caused by poor settings.

Step 8) Set advanced things up (do this if you got the MediaVPs)
If you have the MediaVPs and you want to use them, open the launcher's MOD tab. Click on "Select MOD". Select the folder called "mediavps_3612" (for 3.6.12 MediaVPs) or "mediavps" (for 3.6.10 MediaVPs) and click Ok.
Open the Features tab of the launcher.
Select "Graphics" as the list type.
Tick on at least "Enable specular", "Enable glowmaps", "Enable environment maps", and "Enable normal maps".
Select "Gameplay" as the list type.
Tick on "Use models for ship selection" and "Use models for weapon selection".
Click "Apply" at the bottom of the launcher to apply the changes.
If you want to enable further options, especially lighting, read through the command-line reference (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Command-Line_Reference) and sample lighting settings (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Sample_Lighting_Settings) in the FreeSpace Wiki. Command line flags that can't be found in any of the lists can be manually added to the "Custom flags" text box, which is in the launcher's Features tab.
Why? Because you'll improve the graphics mucho this way.

Hurray! You have now successfully installed FreeSpace Open.

To update FSO, the launcher, or the MediaVPs:

Installing mods
Installing mods is very much like making love to a beautiful woman installing the MediaVPs. Any reasonably recent mod should have accurate installation instructions in their release thread, but if this is not the case, or if you run into problems, you can always follow these simple instructions below.
First, create a subfolder \FreeSpace2\<mod name>\ for the mod. For example, if you want to install the excellent Wings of Dawn (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71092.0), create the folder "\FreeSpace2\Wings of Dawn\".
Download the mod files.
Put the mod .vp files and other files (readme, mod.ini, .bmp pictures) in \FreeSpace2\<mod name>\ , or in this example, \FreeSpace2\Wings of Dawn\ .
Open the launcher and select the mod folder as your mod, in the same way you did with the MediaVPs in step 7. In this example, you'd select \FreeSpace2\Wings of Dawn\ .
Click "Apply" at the bottom of the launcher to apply the changes.

Important: When you start the game, go to the campaign room and select the mod's campaign (in this example, the Wings of Dawn campaign), because the main FS2 campaign is selected by default.



Installation notes

If you must install FS2 to somewhere other than C:\Games\FreeSpace2\
Note that

Nightly builds
If you want to be 1337 master, grab the latest nightly build from the nightly builds board (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?board=173.0). Grabbing the most up to date **** possible may provide things such as improved performance, new features, money, power, women etc. If you see SSE or SSE2 and don't know what they mean, see the release thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70692) for an explanation.

You'll need to download and install 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/download.html) to uncompress the nightly builds download. Once you've downloaded your build of choice, find it in Windows Explorer, right-click on it, select 7-Zip then "Extract files...", click on the "..." button on the right, choose your FreeSpace 2 directory, then click OK.

Inferno vs. standard FSO builds
When viewing a release thread for a build, you'll notice that there are "Inferno" builds and "standard" builds available. Inferno builds support a larger amount of ship and weapon entries in the table files, thus making it possible to include more ships and weapons in a mod, for example.
You should get the Inferno build, because Inferno builds are multiplayer-valid and are slowly becoming the "normal" build, with the "standard" builds becoming more of an exotic thing.

Saving a little space with the cutscenes
Download the cutscenes in .ogg format (http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.128), put them in \FreeSpace2\data\movies\, and either delete the .mve files or move them to somewhere else. Note that the .ogg cutscenes only work with FSO; retail FS2 requires the .mve files.

FSO build differences (or what the "r" and "d" mean)
When viewing the builds in your \FreeSpace2\ folder, you'll notice that there always seems to be a pair of builds, with maybe a difference of one or a few characters between them. If the file name contains the character "d" or the word "debug", it means that that build is a "debug" build (for example, fs2_open_3_6_12d.exe). Debug builds are used for generating debug logs (called fs2_open.log) (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56279.msg1180359#msg1180359) when you run into problems using FSO. They are NOT meant for casual playing. Also, contrary to popular belief, debug builds do NOT magically solve whatever problem you're facing.
The builds that are not debug builds are "release" builds. Release builds have file names where the "d" is replaced with an "r" or is missing altogether (for example, fs2_open_3_6_12r.exe). Release builds are the ones that you should be using if all you want to do is play the game. So unless you need to generate a debug log, go for a "release" build, NOT a debug build.
Hopefully at some point, builds will be named so that the one you should use will have a simple name (like fs2_open_3_6_14.exe), while other builds have clear parts in their names to point that they are somehow different (like fs2_open_3_6_14_DEBUG.exe). But for now, you gotta spend money to make money. Or something.

If you've spotted typos, errors, out-of-dateness, something that's missing, or if you just think that these instructions suck, tell someone about it. Please don't bother Vader. He really doesn't care.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Molaris on October 10, 2011, 04:46:07 pm
i finally did it. it really wasn't hard at all. scary at first yes, but now I'm confident enough to do it  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on October 10, 2011, 07:44:06 pm
And we should give a f*ck about that why ?

I mean, if people don't have the motivation to install FSO, they don't have the motivation to install FSO. There's nothing we can do about that.

Hmm.  We should care about it to expand our userbase and spread the pleasure of FSO to new users.   Some of the new users will contribute, and FSO will keep growing.

The whole devil-may-care attitude toward user friendliness is rather alarming.  I mean, you can only do what you can only do, but it makes sense to make an effort to improve the ease of use for the installation process.  For which I do thank jg18.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: Goober5000 on October 10, 2011, 10:52:32 pm
The new Installer is very user-friendly.

Sadly, it is not yet complete. :nervous:

Although I could probably hack it together to get the last screen working in an ugly fashion, and then fix it up later...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: LordMelvin on October 10, 2011, 10:57:40 pm
Although I could probably hack it together to get the last screen working in an ugly fashion, and then fix it up later...

Nooooo! Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: niffiwan on October 11, 2011, 02:07:30 am
Heh - what about "release early, release often"  :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jg18 on October 11, 2011, 02:17:57 am
Heh - what about "release early, release often"  :p
Here's a thought from an archived version (http://web.archive.org/web/20040622175825/http://mpt.phrasewise.com/2002/04/13) of "Why Free Software usability tends to suck" (April 2002; extended essay from August 2008 archived here (http://web.archive.org/web/20081210103723/http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2008/08/01/free-software-usability)):
Quote
The practice of releasing early, releasing often frequently causes severe damage to the interface. When a feature is incomplete, buggy, or slow, people get used to the incompleteness, or introduce preferences to cope with the bugginess or slowness. Then when the feature is finished, people complain about the completeness or try to retain the preferences. Similarly, when something has an inefficient design, people get used to the inefficiency, and complain when it becomes efficient. As a result, more user preferences get added, making the interface worse.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: niffiwan on October 11, 2011, 02:37:11 am
Although my last post was tongue in cheek, that link has got some good points... being a command line jockey & a "power user" (I work as a sysadmin!) I can see myself making those sort of mistakes, especially the disdain for UI fixes!  :D

/me != designer!

Anyway - thanks for the link jg18 - good food for thought
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jg18 on October 11, 2011, 07:22:19 pm
* jg18 pretends to be a UI designer.

(I mean, reading a book or two instantly makes you an expert, right? ;))

Glad you liked the link, niffiwan.

I agree with LordMelvin that rushing the installer is not a good idea. Written instructions are admittedly a crappy substitute for an installer, but IMHO they'll have to do for now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: BES on October 31, 2011, 05:44:59 pm
Installing this was easier than that wall of text that I just read  :D , haven't played this game in ages..

You could clean that wall of text up by just posting this:

#1: get the GOG.com version of FreeSpace 2

#2: open the \FreeSpace2\data\ folder and move the .mve(movie files) from the movie 2, movie 3 folders to the Movie folder..

#3: Download Freespace 2 open and the launcher from here:  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70692.0 (Launcher 5.5g , and 3.6.12 Final or later, SSE2 version if your CPU supports it)

#4: use WinRAR(ver 4.10) to extract Freespace 2 open(3.6.12 Final or later) to the Freespace 2 main folder \FreeSpace2, extract the launcher with winrar to the same folder..

#5: Open the \FreeSpace2 folder and run the launcher, enable or disable all enhancements you want, set the resolution you want, save it and exit the launcher..

#6: Run the game with the fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2 .exe file...

#7: Obviously you add anything else here separating it with ----------------------- or something... breaking it up a bit  :) ..

I got this game running on this: FX-8150/HD6950/16gigs of ram/1080P 24"(1920x1080) monitor, game runs and looks perfect, props to the team for making this  :yes:

Also thanks jg18 for posting that wall of text ...it was helpful still, im just suggesting a cleaner way..so that its easier for new people ...it doesn't even have to be like mine obviously  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jr2 on October 31, 2011, 06:02:31 pm

#4: use WinRAR(ver 4.10) to extract Freespace 2 open(3.6.12 Final or later) to the Freespace 2 main folder \FreeSpace2, extract the launcher with winrar to the same folder..


http://www.7-zip.org

right-click archive > extract to...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: jg18 on October 31, 2011, 07:16:18 pm
Installing this was easier than that wall of text that I just read  :D , haven't played this game in ages..

You could clean that wall of text up by just posting this:

#1: get the GOG.com version of FreeSpace 2

#2: open the \FreeSpace2\data\ folder and move the .mve(movie files) from the movie 2, movie 3 folders to the Movie folder..

#3: Download Freespace 2 open and the launcher from here:  http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70692.0 (Launcher 5.5g , and 3.6.12 Final or later, SSE2 version if your CPU supports it)

#4: use WinRAR(ver 4.10) to extract Freespace 2 open(3.6.12 Final or later) to the Freespace 2 main folder \FreeSpace2, extract the launcher with winrar to the same folder..

#5: Open the \FreeSpace2 folder and run the launcher, enable or disable all enhancements you want, set the resolution you want, save it and exit the launcher..

#6: Run the game with the fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF_SSE2 .exe file...

#7: Obviously you add anything else here separating it with ----------------------- or something... breaking it up a bit  :) ..

Also thanks jg18 for posting that wall of text ...it was helpful still, im just suggesting a cleaner way..so that its easier for new people ...it doesn't even have to be like mine obviously  :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, BES.

I guess we could call some form of these instructions the tl;dr edition or, more generously, the Quick Start. Like any short list of instructions, it makes a variety of assumptions about the reader, namely that they
Of course, they can learn about these things later, but if they just want to play right now, then maybe something like this is good enough. I don't even think any mention of 7-Zip/WinRAR is necessary, since AFAIK the basic FSO release downloads are (for now) compressed as .zip files, which Windows can handle on its own.

That said, I might be able to make the main list of instructions shorter, although it'll never be as short as this. Note that the absolutely required instructions (which are in orange) in the current instructions (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=78710.0) are actually pretty short and can't really be made shorter. So there's a sort of Quick Start there already.

In case you didn't see the wall of text that the current one replaced, here it is (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=47640.0).

Again, thanks for your thoughts.

EDIT: But if your needs were met after Step 7 or so, why did you read until the end? :wtf: I guess it should be clearer when people don't need to read further...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Open Installer! Download it now!
Post by: BES on November 01, 2011, 02:40:09 am
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, BES.

I guess we could call some form of these instructions the tl;dr edition or, more generously, the Quick Start. Like any short list of instructions, it makes a variety of assumptions about the reader, namely that they
  • both know and care whether their processor has SSE/SSE2
  • aren't interested in nightly builds
  • aren't interested in the MediaVPs
  • know what enhancements (flags) they want
  • aren't interested in mods, many of which require the MVPs anyway
Of course, they can learn about these things later, but if they just want to play right now, then maybe something like this is