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Title: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Dough with Fish on December 04, 2006, 08:06:12 pm
Everyones favorite Coke-machine-hating megalomaniac is back with yet another game, GALACTIC COMMAND! (http://firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=13419)

May God have mercy on all our Souls...
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Axem on December 04, 2006, 08:18:09 pm
And he also takes the time to insult us again. How wonderful. ;)

Oh, I loved this part of the article.

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Just ask the devs of the recent DarkStar One how it did at retail. Here's a hint. It tanked. Spectacularly. And lets not even get into the North American numbers for X3, even with all its reviews.

So with that, I felt that since my games sell numbers that keep me in business...

Obviously this guy has to be smarter than we thought. :p
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Cobra on December 04, 2006, 08:27:08 pm
Oh man, I saw this on Warpstorm. I can already see the problems coming up, especially graphics wise. The maps are blurry, the station there looks EXTREMELY reminiscient of Deep Space 9, and since when was space purple?
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: spartan_0214 on December 04, 2006, 10:21:41 pm
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Like all my games, KnightBlade is going to be a first of its kind on the XB360 or any console for that matter. The first time it is revealed (shots, demo etc), it will come as a surprise to an industry that has associated me with complex games designed for a niche audience and with no hopes of doing the PC to console crossover that so many of my peers are doing.

\spartan hangs head and cries

Derek Smart my asymptote....
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Flipside on December 04, 2006, 10:24:31 pm
Well, if he wants to write it, it's up to him to be honest. It's his money, and it's not as if he's forcing anyone to pay for a copy.

If it makes you feel better, think of it as pretty much confirmation that nothing is happening on the FS3 front as far as he is concerned. :)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: CP5670 on December 04, 2006, 10:26:37 pm
Does anyone else think that graphics engine looks comparable to retail FS2? (which is over 7 years old now)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Cobra on December 04, 2006, 10:29:40 pm
Does anyone else think that graphics engine looks comparable to retail FS2? (which is over 7 years old now)

It does, and I'll bet you anything it's a modified FS2_Open engine.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: spartan_0214 on December 04, 2006, 10:32:43 pm
If it makes you feel better, think of it as pretty much confirmation that nothing is happening on the FS3 front as far as he is concerned. :)

It does make me feel better. Sorta....
Derek Smart::snipe:
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Ace on December 04, 2006, 10:32:57 pm
Well it seems that "IP" is the word of the day.

I'm a wee bit disappointed at those textures, they're even lower resolution than in some of the shots shown back during the War of the Dereks.

In thumbnail size the screenshots actually look nice, but at full scale... yuck.

However with a blur and bloom shader that would put Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow to shame, it'd look passably tacky in a Derek fashion ;)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Flipside on December 04, 2006, 10:35:12 pm
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It does, and I'll bet you anything it's a modified FS2_Open engine.

It's not, you can see from the screenshots it's based on the BC3000AD engine. Oh, and if it makes you feel any better, if we were a bunch a 'idiots who didn't matter', then we aren't any more, he's identified us in an official interview, therefore giving us relevance. Strange behaviour, but there you go.

I've never played his games, so I can't comment on those.

Now, to be honest, unless this thread actually takes a relevant turn rather than 'We hate DS', then it will end up locked, I'm not sure how flaming people who aren't even here stands under the Forum guidelines, but I think I could hazard a pretty accurate guess :)

Edit : To clarify, if you don't like the look of the graphics etc, say so, but leave the 'I hate DS' comments out, there's really no point to them any more :)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Cobra on December 04, 2006, 10:40:26 pm
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It does, and I'll bet you anything it's a modified FS2_Open engine.

It's not, you can see from the screenshots it's based on the BC3000AD engine. Oh, and if it makes you feel any better, if we were a bunch a 'idiots who didn't matter', then we aren't any more, he's identified us in an official interview, therefore giving us relevance. Strange behaviour, but there you go.

heh, I just saw that paragraph. I like how we're all a bunch of idiots because we'd rather have the original game developers make another Freespace.

Anyway, I myself have never played Battlecruiser 3000AD. But from the screenshots it looks a hell of a lot like FSO. (minus the crappy textures. by god, if that's what the final release will look like...)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turnsky on December 04, 2006, 10:52:17 pm
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It does, and I'll bet you anything it's a modified FS2_Open engine.

It's not, you can see from the screenshots it's based on the BC3000AD engine. Oh, and if it makes you feel any better, if we were a bunch a 'idiots who didn't matter', then we aren't any more, he's identified us in an official interview, therefore giving us relevance. Strange behaviour, but there you go.

I've never played his games, so I can't comment on those.

Now, to be honest, unless this thread actually takes a relevant turn rather than 'We hate DS', then it will end up locked, I'm not sure how flaming people who aren't even here stands under the Forum guidelines, but I think I could hazard a pretty accurate guess :)

Edit : To clarify, if you don't like the look of the graphics etc, say so, but leave the 'I hate DS' comments out, there's really no point to them any more :)

well, considering that it's supposedly "new" and revolutionary, other than the specular mapping, it doesn't look anything more spectatuclar than FS2 retail.. and the said specular looks overused and makes everything there look -flat-..

Textures need a LOT of work, too. some of them look exceedingly bland, and/or blurry.

and isn't space supposed to be black or a real deep blue color?

offhand, i'd say the SCP has beaten him to the punch in terms of quality for a fraction of the running costs.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Flipside on December 04, 2006, 11:13:41 pm
Personally, I'd agree, one only has to look at something like the BtRL Mod to see the difference, visually, I'd say the SCP has the edge on it by quite a serious amount. I suppose the real test is playability, a good game with mediocre graphics is still a good game, but we'll wait and see on that count.

And let's face it, we might run at infinitely less cost, but he makes infinitely more profit ;)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2006, 12:21:55 am
Personally, I'd agree, one only has to look at something like the BtRL Mod to see the difference, visually, I'd say the SCP has the edge on it by quite a serious amount. I suppose the real test is playability, a good game with mediocre graphics is still a good game, but we'll wait and see on that count.

And let's face it, we might run at infinitely less cost, but he makes infinitely more profit ;)

or infinitely more loss, inversely.

the fact is, that the SCP isn't making money off this, they're not losing money, either, really. they haven't got anything to lose, just everything to gain, especially the eye of a pro development house for their efforts.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Quest_techie on December 05, 2006, 01:45:58 am
what a disgustingly arrogant piece of ****

his game looks like crap

and for him to call anyone an idiot is unbelievable

how he manages not to kill himself for being so disgusting is completly incredible

Derek Smart: Not to much to tell really. The story, though quite good and engaging, is the usual run-of-the-mill fare thats just there to give some semblance of a purpose.

and.... om..., please god, strike that retarded piece of trash down with ritcheous fury
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turey on December 05, 2006, 01:52:08 am
what a disgustingly arrogant piece of ****

his game looks like crap

and for him to call anyone an idiot is unbelievable

how he manages not to kill himself for being so disgusting is completely incredible

Derek Smart: Not to much to tell really. The story, though quite good and engaging, is the usual run-of-the-mill fare thats just there to give some semblance of a purpose.

and.... om..., please god, strike that retarded piece of trash down with righteous fury

We have a spell check button now for a reason, try using it.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: karajorma on December 05, 2006, 02:10:37 am
You know Derek Smart may not think we count but I wish he could see what Volition thought about the idea of him making a sequel to their game. :p
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: redsniper on December 05, 2006, 02:34:52 am
Wait, what did Volition think of him making FS3? I don't remember them ever making a statement or telling us how they felt.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 05, 2006, 03:03:24 am
Wait, what did Volition think of him making FS3? I don't remember them ever making a statement or telling us how they felt.

Sandwich posted an email which he then pulled, as DaveB didn't want the exact contents public; the gist was along the lines of 'over our dead bodies' and doubting he could afford the license.

As for this, er, thing - I could honestly make better ships than that.  I'm not sure if that should be worrying or reassuring.  I love, though, how he takes a simple concept like 'space shooty' and manages to still shovel in uneccesarily complex things like ground combat.

Anyways, based on that interview we Officially Matter :D  And looking at it so far, thank all the various dieties we have Galactic Command rather than FS3.  Can you imagine if that was FS3?  Ugh.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: CP5670 on December 05, 2006, 03:09:50 am
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Sandwich posted an email which he then pulled, as DaveB didn't want the exact contents public; the gist was along the lines of 'over our dead bodies' and doubting he could afford the license.

On a side note, I actually still have an old PM from him about that. Apparently he thought I was a moderator and he asked me to take it down. I need to clear out all that old stuff sometime.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2006, 03:10:32 am
Wait, what did Volition think of him making FS3? I don't remember them ever making a statement or telling us how they felt.

Sandwich posted an email which he then pulled, as DaveB didn't want the exact contents public; the gist was along the lines of 'over our dead bodies' and doubting he could afford the license.

As for this, er, thing - I could honestly make better ships than that.  I'm not sure if that should be worrying or reassuring.  I love, though, how he takes a simple concept like 'space shooty' and manages to still shovel in uneccesarily complex things like ground combat.

Anyways, based on that interview we Officially Matter :D  And looking at it so far, thank all the various dieties we have Galactic Command rather than FS3.  Can you imagine if that was FS3?  Ugh.

the atoms belonging to the crew of the GTVA colossus would be spinning as we speak.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Col. Fishguts on December 05, 2006, 03:32:19 am
If it makes you feel better, think of it as pretty much confirmation that nothing is happening on the FS3 front as far as he is concerned. :)

Indeed, that's the best news we could hope for :) .
I always had the sneaking suspicion that he secretely acquired the FreeSpace IP and was developing FS3 in a deep underground bunker.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Ace on December 05, 2006, 03:37:25 am
Le Game de Jure Promisses

It's a space combat game, with an epic plot that no one will remember because we don't like plots... well except for Wing Commander, FreeSpace, TIE Fighter... no one plays them for plots though. Oh yeah, we have ground combat too. ...and sex because we all know that IPs with lots of sex do better. Look at Oblivion, tons of sex there, or the new Galactica.

Yeah, this game isn't for mundanes. It's like Wing Commander and Freespace fans... which no one cares about despite them being the people most likely to buy this... are the original Galactica fans and this game is so much more awesome than them. This IP is like Edward James Olmos' giant middlefinger in the face of the spacesim community, it's that awesome.

Anyway, as for our awesome plot. The Rebels, who survived the war against the Betagons, are fighting the Terran Supremacy. As a warrior of the galactic control experimental dreadnought you have to destroy the Rebels. Totally awesome IP here, and as I said there's some sex and ground combat, there's also a fully dynamic stealth system.

It's _only_ for Nintendo Wii. Just imagine Wii-moteing through ground combat against the Betagons and then using its wireless controls to assert your _ALPHA MALE_ powers over the female (or male depending on how you do in the stealth portion of ground combat to capture Betagon biometric alteration technology) Rebel Commander. So yeah, totally awesome here with space combat, sex, ground combat, stealth, and sex change surgery minigame. Like Oblivion, tons of minigames there including the Flanau Hlaalu necrophilia minigame. Wii players want that!

Anyway, my totally original and high powered graphics engine for the Wii supports 16x16 texture maps. THOSE ARE REAL TEXTURE MAPS, not the FAKE ONES seen in other games! There's also real colored lighting from up to 4 different light sources! Only the Wii, not a PC, can enable this truly awesome graphics engine that I've had to cripple for the last few releases of games in this IP.

There's 100,000 star systems with a dozen career types. But it's a combat focused game in this awesome new part of the Faux Promisses universe. I'm sure that true spacesim fans, the people who buy my games and don't buy... well silly games like Galciv 2... just want to get their Wii into this!
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Fury on December 05, 2006, 03:38:41 am
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You've played most of my games and know that they are powered by very advanced technologies around which complex games are wrapped.
:lol:

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You've been around long enough to know that for many many years, PC technology had to play catch up to my ideas and the things I wanted to do; and that it was only after several years and four titles in, that there were machines powerful enough to even run my games without choking.
Crap code. :lol:

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I didn't get the license and a bunch of idiots who think they matter in the general scheme of things, felt that a Freespace 3 by any developer other than the original developers would not be Freespace 3.
Got that damn right, we'll be better off without FS3 than one developed by Smartarse.

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Not to much to tell really.
Got that right too. :lol:
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 05, 2006, 04:17:43 am
I can write a game that runs at 1 FPS on my computer.  Does that mean I can see The Future Of Gaming?
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 05, 2006, 04:25:03 am
I can write a game that runs at 1 FPS on my computer.  Does that mean I can see The Future Of Gaming?

Remember, it has to run at 1 FPS for no immediately discernable reason and it cannot by coded to do so intentionally.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 05, 2006, 04:27:01 am
I can write a game that runs at 1 FPS on my computer.  Does that mean I can see The Future Of Gaming?

Remember, it has to run at 1 FPS for no immediately discernable reason and it cannot by coded to do so intentionally.

Don't worry, I'll disable collision detection because my game world is too complex.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Col. Fishguts on December 05, 2006, 05:37:18 am
No, it means the world isn't ready for your game yet.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 05, 2006, 05:39:53 am
Then the world must be wrong, for I am an..no, the Alpha Male.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Ghostavo on December 05, 2006, 06:03:07 am
Erm...

Normally I would come I his defense but this time, he just blurred something out that he shouldn't have...

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For a while I have wanted to do a pure action shooter sans all the high end complexities and niche attributes of my own games. I felt that trying to do that would taint my IP, alienate my existing and loyal install base who would probably have me lynched amidst cries of "sellout!". So I wanted to play it safe by using another IP.

 :wtf:
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Roanoke on December 05, 2006, 06:18:55 am
Erm...

Normally I would come I his defense but this time, he just blurred something out that he shouldn't have...

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For a while I have wanted to do a pure action shooter sans all the high end complexities and niche attributes of my own games. I felt that trying to do that would taint my IP, alienate my existing and loyal install base who would probably have me lynched amidst cries of "sellout!". So I wanted to play it safe by using another IP.

 :wtf:

uh dude, that makes sense.



Seriously though, those graphics look pre Geforce2, Playstation1 era. I'm all for "gameplay before graphics" but that's ridiculous
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Ghostavo on December 05, 2006, 06:24:41 am
He's basically saying that the FS IP holds less value than the BC one. The other IP he speaks of is FS.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Fury on December 05, 2006, 06:27:58 am
He's basically saying that the FS IP holds less value than the BC one. The other IP he speaks of is FS.
Oh the irony. :) After everyone and their dogs have ran away from Smartgames, even grannies are coming to FS. :lol:
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: karajorma on December 05, 2006, 06:39:02 am
Well someone had to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YlR07nGYM)

I suppose it's possible that there are some newbies who haven't seen it yet :)
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Thor on December 05, 2006, 08:15:57 am
haven't people learned to just ignore him by now?
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turnsky on December 05, 2006, 08:44:50 am
ignoring derek smart is a bit hard, that's like trying to ignore the death star or something.  :p

but really, Derek Smart is a non-issue, the sheer amount of talent we've seen in the community, it's enough to steamroll him and his internet-purchased PhD.

i haven't seen any one of his games yet that actually got a GOOD review... or a mediocre one for that matter..
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: perihelion on December 05, 2006, 08:49:33 am
Well someone had to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YlR07nGYM)

I suppose it's possible that there are some newbies who haven't seen it yet :)

 :wakka:
Priceless!
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: brozozo on December 05, 2006, 06:35:42 pm
i haven't seen any one of his games yet that actually got a GOOD review... or a mediocre one for that matter..

PC Gamer gave Universal Combat a 75% rating.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 05, 2006, 06:41:43 pm
That's what, a C at best? :p
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: miskat on December 05, 2006, 07:09:00 pm
You know, I'm new to this forum and the world of FS2 and FS2_open, and missed the era of the "War of Dereks" as a user posted above.  Didn't even know who he was, only a vague outline of what happened.

After reading that post I'm almost as shocked and offended as I would have been if Jack Thompson had attacked... anything... again.  Freakin nutter.

Anyway, back on topic.

Since when did people who play action shooters (of any style, space or common FPSs) NOT care about story, good voice acting, good acting (if applicable), and the occasional cutscene?  Seems to me that Freespace's story, voice acting, and cutscenes are some of it's leading strong points.  Sure, it's hella fun to play but it's the story that made it truly great, IMO.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one who agrees.  Hell, from all that I've read, you "idiots" as he put it, didn't want him to make FS3 specifically because he didn't want to continue the story based off of Volitions model.

Why did Halflife do so well?  And Halflife 2?  Good voice acting.  Good story.  All alongside fun gameplay.

Sounds like this guy really needs to get a clue about the "niche" he's aiming for.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Unknown Target on December 05, 2006, 07:14:42 pm
Erm...

Normally I would come I his defense but this time, he just blurred something out that he shouldn't have...

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For a while I have wanted to do a pure action shooter sans all the high end complexities and niche attributes of my own games. I felt that trying to do that would taint my IP, alienate my existing and loyal install base who would probably have me lynched amidst cries of "sellout!". So I wanted to play it safe by using another IP.

 :wtf:

You missed the next line:
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Freespace 3 came to mind, so I started looking into obtaining the IP.

Just in case there was any doubt he was referring to the FS IP.

And anyway, wow. I gotta say, he's going to get roasted by the console community. If he thought the PC crowd was bad, at least we're reasonably comfortable with bad graphics. Putting stuff like that out on the XBOX360 will get him fried.

And I love how he admits, straight out, that his storyline is crap and unnecessary. And I'm practically falling for the way he talks about how being a simple "go here and blow up object X" is suddenly a second coming of gaming, and a true vision of his genius. When he compares his games to Freespace and XWING, he seems to forget that both those games had compelling stories and inventive gameplay - the former which he already admitted the game would not have, and the latter he implied the game wouldn't have when he said all it would consist of is
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Go here. Blow stuff up. Return to base. Here, have a cookie for your troubles.
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And I just can't get enough of the way he touts the BC and UC franchises as the bee's knees. Jesus, dude, everyone says they suck, get with the picture.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Mathwiz6 on December 05, 2006, 07:44:11 pm
You know, I'm new to this forum and the world of FS2 and FS2_open, and missed the era of the "War of Dereks" as a user posted above.  Didn't even know who he was, only a vague outline of what happened.

After reading that post I'm almost as shocked and offended as I would have been if Jack Thompson had attacked... anything... again.  Freakin nutter.

Anyway, back on topic.

Since when did people who play action shooters (of any style, space or common FPSs) NOT care about story, good voice acting, good acting (if applicable), and the occasional cutscene?  Seems to me that Freespace's story, voice acting, and cutscenes are some of it's leading strong points.  Sure, it's hella fun to play but it's the story that made it truly great, IMO.  And I'm sure I'm not the only one who agrees.  Hell, from all that I've read, you "idiots" as he put it, didn't want him to make FS3 specifically because he didn't want to continue the story based off of Volitions model.

Why did Halflife do so well?  And Halflife 2?  Good voice acting.  Good story.  All alongside fun gameplay.

Sounds like this guy really needs to get a clue about the "niche" he's aiming for.

Derek's thread is in the HLP Classics. That, is history!

Have to admit, that was one of the longer pieces of random bafflegab (:D) that i've seen in a while.

I'm surprised how much you can spin stuff   :drevil:
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Quest_techie on December 05, 2006, 11:49:12 pm
what a disgustingly arrogant piece of ****

his game looks like crap

and for him to call anyone an idiot is unbelievable

how he manages not to kill himself for being so disgusting is completely incredible

Derek Smart: Not to much to tell really. The story, though quite good and engaging, is the usual run-of-the-mill fare thats just there to give some semblance of a purpose.

and.... om..., please god, strike that retarded piece of trash down with righteous fury

We have a spell check button now for a reason, try using it.

/claps for monkey

wow, that was anal as can be
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 06, 2006, 03:08:49 am
what a disgustingly arrogant piece of ****

his game looks like crap

and for him to call anyone an idiot is unbelievable

how he manages not to kill himself for being so disgusting is completely incredible

Derek Smart: Not to much to tell really. The story, though quite good and engaging, is the usual run-of-the-mill fare thats just there to give some semblance of a purpose.

and.... om..., please god, strike that retarded piece of trash down with righteous fury

We have a spell check button now for a reason, try using it.

/claps for monkey

wow, that was anal as can be

There's not a grammar check button yet, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turey on December 06, 2006, 04:39:28 am
There's not a grammar check button yet, unfortunately.

Goober knows all the grammar rules, so it shouldn't be long before all our posts are in perfect English!
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 06, 2006, 05:11:56 am
There's not a grammar check button yet, unfortunately.

Goober knows all the grammar rules, so it shouldn't be long before all our posts are in perfect English!

Correctness.  Forward to that day I shall look.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Turnsky on December 06, 2006, 05:32:29 am
i haven't seen any one of his games yet that actually got a GOOD review... or a mediocre one for that matter..

PC Gamer gave Universal Combat a 75% rating.

PC gamer also has a mascot made entirely from coconuts...

not much credibility there.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: aldo_14 on December 06, 2006, 06:06:05 am
PC Gamer used to be ok, but then it started reviewing things like the BF:V beta (and citing stuff dropped in the retail game like the B52) without saying so, or giving Halo 90% whilst saying that the notorious juddery slowdown as ok because it was 'authentic' to the original.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: AlphaOne on December 06, 2006, 09:33:17 am
I'm sorry but i just have to ask. Was he born an actual idiot or did he evolve over time???(Derek Smart)

And what is with this name already i'm getting sick of it. It's like Bill Gates chandign his name to Bilionare Gates. The obvious would apply but at least that guy actualy has bilions to prove it !


Geez man i wish this dude would come down mi block one day so then i can run him over in mi car all made to look like a Deimos corvette. Oh and i could put a re3ally big pole in the front so that when i ram him i could say "huh jerk you jost got ht by a beam cannon and rammed by the GTCv Smart.


This dude just made mi blood boil while at the same time he made me laugh at his superior stupidity. People like him should not be alowed to make compuer console or any other game.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: Flipside on December 06, 2006, 09:54:40 am
You know, I'm sure I said at the start of this that I would prefer it not to slide into another 'We hate Derek Smart' thread? Anyone who was here the last time is perfectly aware of my opinion of the man, but just because he calls us 'idiots', whilst giving us relevance I might add, doesn't really excuse us sinking to the same level.

He's left us and the FS Franchise alone, that's what's important. Let's just let it rest please? I dislike the man just as strongly as anyone else, but by bringing him up over and over, we are giving him relevance.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: kode on December 06, 2006, 10:19:24 am
Me agrees. Least we and everyones else ignores he, him would get out of busyness, son enough.

spill chick? paced.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: WeatherOp on December 06, 2006, 10:41:47 am
Personally, I'd agree, one only has to look at something like the BtRL Mod to see the difference, visually, I'd say the SCP has the edge on it by quite a serious amount. I suppose the real test is playability, a good game with mediocre graphics is still a good game, but we'll wait and see on that count.

And let's face it, we might run at infinitely less cost, but he makes infinitely more profit ;)

Amen

His

(http://firingsquad.com/media/galleries/galacticcommandinterview/03.jpg)

BTRL

(http://www.game-warden.com/bsg//staff_images/btrl-fleet.jpg)

He got owned. ;7

Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: kode on December 06, 2006, 10:45:13 am
yeah, by the looks of it, his graphics compares to that of a "hotlinking forbidden" image, while the other one actually looks kinda like space.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: IPAndrews on December 06, 2006, 10:57:45 am
I love Derek Smart. The guy is just so entertaining.
Title: Re: Oh, sweet Jesus...
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 06, 2006, 11:47:06 am
He's left us and the FS Franchise alone, that's what's important. Let's just let it rest please? I dislike the man just as strongly as anyone else, but by bringing him up over and over, we are giving him relevance.

Derek Smart, for worse (since it seems unlikely to be for better) has left an indeliable mark on the community, however. I believe he qualifies as a Godzilla attack of sorts.

I.E. this guy: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/godzilla.htm
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Post by: Flipside on December 06, 2006, 11:50:44 am


He got owned. ;7



You got Deckered :p
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Post by: Zuljin on December 06, 2006, 01:47:29 pm


He got owned. ;7



You got Deckered :p

Well his hotlinking didn't get him any pictures ala goatse and tubgirl, so it's kind of unfair to put him on that level already :p
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Post by: Flipside on December 06, 2006, 02:31:44 pm
:lol: Well, not quite as bad, but you get the picture ;)

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Post by: Mathwiz6 on December 06, 2006, 03:09:14 pm
Derek, live long and (don't) prosper.

 :D
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Post by: brozozo on December 06, 2006, 06:08:00 pm
PC Gamer used to be ok, but then it started reviewing things like the BF:V beta (and citing stuff dropped in the retail game like the B52) without saying so, or giving Halo 90% whilst saying that the notorious juddery slowdown as ok because it was 'authentic' to the original.

I stopped subscribing to it years ago, but it does seem to have lost a bit a of it's luster. I only offered the Universal Combat review because it's in one of the magazines that is perpetual sitting on top of my toilet.
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Post by: Turnsky on December 06, 2006, 07:06:21 pm
PC Gamer used to be ok, but then it started reviewing things like the BF:V beta (and citing stuff dropped in the retail game like the B52) without saying so, or giving Halo 90% whilst saying that the notorious juddery slowdown as ok because it was 'authentic' to the original.

I stopped subscribing to it years ago, but it does seem to have lost a bit a of it's luster. I only offered the Universal Combat review because it's in one of the magazines that is perpetual sitting on top of my toilet.

i guess you gotta wipe your butt with *something*  :p
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Post by: Unknown Target on December 06, 2006, 07:56:58 pm
Ugh, PC Gamer. I picked up one of their magazines on a whim, since they didn't have CGW. I read through the whole thing in about five minutes - then was so amazed, I went back through it and counted the pages. There were some like twenty pages of actual content and maybe fifty pages of ads. On top of that, their reviews  were pretty lacking. Never bought it again.
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Post by: Inquisitor on December 06, 2006, 07:58:55 pm
You people need other hobbies.
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Post by: karajorma on December 07, 2006, 03:09:35 am
Might be worth remembering that PCG has given us some very good publicity before everyone starts lining up to bash them.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,37897.msg772546.html#msg772546

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/Misc-Pics/Article.jpg
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Post by: aldo_14 on December 07, 2006, 04:25:45 am
Ugh, PC Gamer. I picked up one of their magazines on a whim, since they didn't have CGW. I read through the whole thing in about five minutes - then was so amazed, I went back through it and counted the pages. There were some like twenty pages of actual content and maybe fifty pages of ads. On top of that, their reviews  were pretty lacking. Never bought it again.

Offhand, I'm guessing you mean US PCG, which is a different kettle of fish.  My experience of US mags is very limited, and also out of date, but I do remember the last one I read being full of huge previews-cum-ads with very poor reviews hidden deep in the bowels of the mag.
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Post by: spartan_0214 on December 07, 2006, 06:18:00 pm
I love PC Gamer. Except for the excessive ads. But they have good reviews and provide good information, and they have exclusive previews (and AWESOME demos FTW).
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Post by: S-99 on December 10, 2006, 10:55:57 am
Well, we'll all find out whether or not dereks new game on the 360 will be good based on how much bill gates likes derek rimming him.
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Post by: Getter Robo G on December 14, 2006, 10:32:21 am
He is justified in his Paranoia (a little known fact that CYLONS have infiltrated Earth years ago and took the form of popular Vending Machines in order to assassinate him and a few other people almost as brilliant as him, Shhhhh!, You didn't hear that from me!  ;)

He just needs a really good marketing plan and THRONGS will flock to the latest piece of crap...
may I suggest the following? (A link from the archives apparently got rediscovered and posted on Youtube, so this one's for all the Newbies here...)  ;7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YlR07nGYM&feature=PlayList&p=08B12BA0ED6B66E6&index=3
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Post by: kode on December 14, 2006, 11:51:04 am
oh, ffs, read the damn thread in full before responding to it.
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Post by: S-99 on December 14, 2006, 02:10:55 pm
Did derek fart really try to come up with this desktop commander s h i t? Or was that his codename for his win98se powered machine on which he got work done on, and he just didn't want people to know that he was running win98se? Damn, if it was that bad for him, maybe he could have at least promoted microsoft, or used linux, that's if he so paranoid he wanted people to think he was actually using magnificent state of the art software only he could posess...or possibly he himself created :drevil: ...we will never know because derek fart is just so f u c k ing smart, and we're just a bunch of idiots huh :lol:
You know derek really is just like a fart, i mean wherever he is, people just want him to leave the room so it can air out :lol: But you see he more than just farts, he means to only release a light tarty smell, but it ends up being a gamble where he s hits all over everyone because he thought he had a fart ;)
Did i sum up the derek experience good enough? I mean with the fashion of how angry he makes people around here is exactly in the same fashion as i just described above :lol:
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Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2006, 03:04:57 pm
Y'know, some of the responses here make us look far, far worse than any egotistical game developer.
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Post by: Unknown Target on December 14, 2006, 03:53:50 pm
Did derek fart really try to come up with this desktop commander s h i t? Or was that his codename for his win98se powered machine on which he got work done on, and he just didn't want people to know that he was running win98se? Damn, if it was that bad for him, maybe he could have at least promoted microsoft, or used linux, that's if he so paranoid he wanted people to think he was actually using magnificent state of the art software only he could posess...or possibly he himself created :drevil: ...we will never know because derek fart is just so f u c k ing smart, and we're just a bunch of idiots huh :lol:
You know derek really is just like a fart, i mean wherever he is, people just want him to leave the room so it can air out :lol: But you see he more than just farts, he means to only release a light tarty smell, but it ends up being a gamble where he s hits all over everyone because he thought he had a fart ;)
Did i sum up the derek experience good enough? I mean with the fashion of how angry he makes people around here is exactly in the same fashion as i just described above :lol:


Err...that's more fart jokes in that one block of text than I think in the entire Family Guy season. :p

And no, desktop commander wasn't real, and Getter...wow, lol. Someone's a little late into the thread :p
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Post by: kode on December 14, 2006, 04:17:35 pm
Y'know, some of the responses here make us look far, far worse than any egotistical game developer.

yeah, it's seriously not funny anymore.
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Post by: S-99 on December 14, 2006, 04:48:08 pm
If he wants to act like an 8 year old, i think it's fair to be back at him like a 3 year old. After that, it's just fart jokes. With the mainstay of them being aimed at he doesn't gamble very good, i mean he shat all over us, and look where his gamble got him with the third unmentioning sequel of fs2 :lol:
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Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2006, 05:12:56 pm
If he wants to act like an 8 year old, i think it's fair to be back at him like a 3 year old. After that, it's just fart jokes. With the mainstay of them being aimed at he doesn't gamble very good, i mean he shat all over us, and look where his gamble got him with the third unmentioning sequel of fs2 :lol:

Why is it ok to act exactly the same, if not worse, as someone whose behaviour you're condemning?  If you think Derek Smart acts in an egotistical, taunting and immature way, why copy him?
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Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 14, 2006, 05:31:03 pm
You're missing the point, aldo.

HE STARTED!!11!

 :lol:

<yes, this message is sarcasm-saturated.>
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Post by: S-99 on December 14, 2006, 09:45:34 pm
Well you see, i'm not quite being like the guy who doesn't know the difference between a fart or a shart that was actually threatening the fso with an fs license acquisition and sucky production of the third unmentioning sequel to fs2 (even though V would probably never let it happen).
I'm not being like him in that sense :lol:
Mainly showing that he has a sucky attitude and it is sadly funny, so i will portray it that way. He's not only the guy who threatened to make a sucky fs2 sequel, he's also the guy who thought he had to fart in the hlp, but he sharted instead. And yes were still laughing at his mess, and especially all his new ones he's making (if he just stayed away from dairy and hot sauce he wouldn't have such the confusion in his colon).
But for some reason he's still our favorite lactose-intolerant-hot-sauce-chugging-imsmartandeveryoneelseintheworldisdumb idiot. The very starting of this thread is to make fun of derek. Everyone's made fun of his really sucky games, and made fun of him in an attempt to get a really sucky game onto a really good console, made fun of him for his past attempts, made fun of him for his references to us, and especially made fun of him for how he thinks moderately ok gameplay with a pretty bad story will get millions to love his game for years.
I hope that lactose-intolerant-hot-sauce-chugging-imsmartandeveryoneelseintheworldisdumb idiot never wins his own lottery :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on December 15, 2006, 02:54:21 am
You could at least make fun in a, y'know, funny way.
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Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 15, 2006, 03:21:35 am
The way I see it, Derek Smart manages to make an ass of himself most of the time very well on his own, I don't need to bother.
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Post by: Wobble73 on December 15, 2006, 04:25:08 am
The way I see it, Derek Smart manages to make an ass of himself most of the time very well on his own, I don't need to bother.

Well said!
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Post by: S-99 on December 15, 2006, 04:40:49 am
Very true, but i like to bother in this instance
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Post by: Windrunner on December 15, 2006, 06:53:04 am
all i see here is a bunch of flaming and DS hating... closed