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Title: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: NickM on February 13, 2007, 09:56:56 pm
A forgot where I read this but...I vaguely recall in the story SOMEBODY actually tried to communicate with the Shivans & actually got a response but they gave only one word in reply: "Die!" was all the response supposedly said; So...Does anyone know if this little exchange is actually part of any of the active campaigns or mods or some bit of fan fiction?

TIA;

NickM
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Taristin on February 13, 2007, 10:16:44 pm
Fan fiction, most certainly.... Dunno what campaign it would have been in if any though.
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: fsi.scsi on February 13, 2007, 11:38:53 pm
That psychopath y'all know and love, Hieronymus van Aken Bosch.

HE SEES THINGS OTHERS DON'T!
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: phatosealpha on February 13, 2007, 11:45:33 pm
What, you mean like Shivans boarding his ship, slaughtering his command crew, and then taking him off for some wookie love?
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: jr2 on February 14, 2007, 02:28:06 am
A forgot where I read this but...I vaguely recall in the story SOMEBODY actually tried to communicate with the Shivans & actually got a response but they gave only one word in reply: "Die!" was all the response supposedly said; So...Does anyone know if this little exchange is actually part of any of the active campaigns or mods or some bit of fan fiction?

TIA;

NickM

I think you are remembering the movie Independence Day :lol:
Quote from: POTUS
"What do you want?"
Quote from: Alien speaking through possessed human
Dieeee!  DIEEEE!
...at which point the alien tries to kill the POTUS through the possessed human, and the Secret Service pump about 50 rounds from their semi-auto pistols into the suicidal alien's body, finally finishing him off with a few headshots.   8)
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: NickM on February 17, 2007, 10:44:04 am
Oh, I remember 'Independence Day'; that Alien was actually quite chatty speaking thru professor Data!
I am pretty sure that one word reply ('DIE!') involved the Shivans & I'm pretty sure it was fan fiction; I was only wondering if this was based on one of the better known mods like 'Silent Threat' or some other one;

NickM
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: jr2 on February 17, 2007, 11:20:46 am
...quite chatty...
rofl :lol:
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Snail on February 17, 2007, 11:21:44 am
In canon, the Shivans don't say anything other than "<incoming transmission>". :P
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Eishtmo on February 17, 2007, 06:14:10 pm
If I remember right, diplomatic contact with the Shivans resulted in the deaths of the diplomats. 

Unless Shivans talk via gunfire, then negotiations have been quite heated.
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Snail on February 17, 2007, 06:20:26 pm
Like in the Capella barbecue/Deus Ex Machina?
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: NickM on February 17, 2007, 07:12:29 pm
Snail:

I've never played Deus Ex Machina; care to elaborate?

NickM
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: phatosealpha on February 17, 2007, 08:18:25 pm
If that's a joke, I apoligize for missing it.

If not, Deus Ex Machina isn't a mission - it's a concept, referring to a completely out of the blue and very arbitrary way of reconciling conflict at the end of a story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Mars on February 17, 2007, 08:29:53 pm
Deus Ex Machina was a campaign that mocked many of the errors in logic of the Freespace series.
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: NickM on February 17, 2007, 09:30:26 pm
If that's a joke, I apoligize for missing it.

If not, Deus Ex Machina isn't a mission - it's a concept, referring to a completely out of the blue and very arbitrary way of reconciling conflict at the end of a story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina

Nope...s'no joke; I know that there's a campaign called 'DeM' but have never played it; I thought maybe the quote  ("DIE") was from THAT campaign...NOW....given Mars' comments in HIS post I might just give it a shot;

NickM
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: ssmit132 on February 18, 2007, 01:59:47 am

I think you are remembering the movie Independence Day :lol:
Quote from: POTUS
"What do you want?"
Quote from: Alien speaking through possessed human
Dieeee!  DIEEEE!
...at which point the alien tries to kill the POTUS through the possessed human, and the Secret Service pump about 50 rounds from their semi-auto pistols into the suicidal alien's body, finally finishing him off with a few headshots.   8)

POTUS?! Lol! And the alien did say something else before.

Quote from: President of the United States
I know there is much we can learn from each other, but only if we can negotiate a truce. We can learn to co-exist. Can there be a peace between us?
Quote from: Alien through Dr. Okun
Peace. No peace.
Quote from: President
What is it you want us to do?
Quote from: Alien
Die. Die.
That's probably not completely correct.
The alien doesn't try to kill him, he uses telepathy to show him what they are up to. IMO the ID4 aliens always seemed similar to the Shivans. Impenatrable shields, big planet/city-destroying ships etc...
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: jr2 on February 18, 2007, 03:27:00 am
POTUS?! Lol! And the alien did say something else before.
You do know what POTUS means, don't you?  :D
BTW, the human that got possessed didn't survive... not sure if that was intentional (I thought it was, considering the message!) or not.  If the alien could have, he'd have killed them all... remember when he first got loose before possessing the doctor, he was killing everyone in the room.  :shaking:
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Snail on February 18, 2007, 01:24:23 pm
I think he just killed the guy and used him as a translator.
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: jr2 on February 18, 2007, 01:36:22 pm
Prolly
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: Dark Hunter on February 18, 2007, 10:59:34 pm
Nope...s'no joke; I know that there's a campaign called 'DeM' but have never played it; I thought maybe the quote  ("DIE") was from THAT campaign...NOW....given Mars' comments in HIS post I might just give it a shot;

NickM

Trust me, it wasn't from DeM. When you play the final mission you'll see why.  :p
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: NickM on February 19, 2007, 01:10:16 am
Dark Hunter;

S'no problem...the concept of the story sounds amusing...trouble is I can't find myself a link...might you be able to point me to a download point for it?

NM
Title: Re: the Shivans 'openly' communicate with the Terrans or Vasudans?
Post by: jr2 on February 19, 2007, 01:19:27 am
From Skippy's Campaign list, you can find it:
http://campaignlist.hard-light.net/campaign-12-deus_ex_machina.htm