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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 01, 2002, 07:17:00 pm
An idea for a campaign, set in the earliest stages of the NTF's rebellion.
What if, by some quirk of fate, the NTF had managed to win?
How would they handle the Vasudans? What would come of the NTF, could Admiral Bosch control all of humanity?
And what does this mean when it comes to the Shivans? The Colossus, nearly completed when the campaign starts? The Pegasus, Erinyes, Ares - never to be designed?
The campaign would answer all these questions, based on an early defeat of the GTVA. You are a pilot stationed with the NTD Jasonian and her battlegroup.
There will be an actual story planned. It will read like a book in the Command Briefing. What if good ol' Alpha One had decided to join the NTF instead of the GTVA?

Mission ideas:
Surrender, Belisarius - Again
Destroying the GTD Aquitaine
Rooting out spies (You get to kill Snipes  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))
Nebula missions, contact with shivans in Tierra del Fuego.


Mods, etc:

NTF Fighters: Valkyrie (Also used by the GTVA, because the Perseus hadn't been designed yet..) Hercules Mk. III (In the vein of the original Herc..8 gun banks, consider it the Erinyes' first cousin) Cobbled Together Fighter (I remember seeing a ship for some campaign, with parks from a Valkyrie and a Herc and a whole bunch of other ships..I don't know where from though..) the NTF Gryphon, a heavy interceptor with high speed but bad maneuverability (Model complete, needs resizing, texturing, etc) the NTF Trika - a standoff missle boat fighter/bomber (only 3 primaries, bad hitpoints, maneuverability AND speed but 3 secondary banks, with the capability to carry light bombs makes the Trika a good multi-role fighter)

NTF Bombers: the "Zeus II" (name not yet chosen) a Zeus with the wings stripped off and replaced with Medusa missle banks - another "Cobbled together" ship  The Jotun by Venom2506 or something like it - a super heavy bomber in the Ursa's lineage. And finally, the good old Athena.

NTF cruisers: Executioner..carries an MGreen (between Sgreen and BGreen) and anti-capship torpedos, along with much fighter defense. Good all around ship.

NTF Corvettes: Nothing at the moment.

NTF Destroyers: Your home ship, the NTD Justinian, is a unique ship, the only one of its class. It's an Orion with 2 side hangar bays and, for some odd reason, Hecate fins near the front. Armament is 4 BGreens, maybe 6 TerSlash, and the requisite fighter/bomber defenses.

NTF misc: An AWACs, with Arrays on both sides, like this: /<>\  
An asteroid base, I downloaded one of these from someone..it was a GTVA listening post I think but it will suit my purposes
An RBC..that can rotate.

NTF Weapons: You will be forced to use the Tsunami, Harbinger, and Avenger once again. Other ingenuous NTF weapons will make an appearance.


Well, that's the idea, off the top of my head. Don't think I'm actually going to attempt to do this :P Just something to ponder
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 01, 2002, 07:35:00 pm
So... WHY are the Shivans in South America?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 01, 2002, 07:57:00 pm
They like the penguins
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 01, 2002, 09:07:00 pm
That sounds really good.  I'd help you test out the campaign if you needed anyone (I don't MOD, just make missions.)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Raven2001 on February 02, 2002, 04:34:00 am
 
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Originally posted by adwight:
That sounds really good.  I'd help you test out the campaign if you needed anyone (I don't MOD, just make missions.)

You do?? Don't you wanna FRED for me???

Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: LtNarol on February 02, 2002, 08:29:00 am
i'll be glad to fred it if someone wil blender it, truespace it, and otherwise make the mod for it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  I have only one request, that i be allowed to add it to my campaign site (158th site, see sig) and that my name gets thrown into the credits somewhere.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 02, 2002, 11:17:00 am
Nonono..these are just ideas..if anyone wants to make the campaign fine by me, I'll help you FRED it..I was just bored  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 02, 2002, 11:51:00 am
Sounds a bit like the Vasudan campaign I was planning to make, where you can play as the HoL. If you need the weapon table entries for FS2, download it from my site (sig.) It includes the Avenger, Banshee, Tsunami, etc.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: LtNarol on February 02, 2002, 01:44:00 pm
hmmm, now theres an idea, we can make the 2 campaigns part of one series, kinda like Red Alert from Westwood

do you have a name for you campaign yet GA?

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 02, 2002, 05:49:00 pm
Hey, thanks GalacticEmperor  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I've been looking for those
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: vadar_1 on February 03, 2002, 11:14:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Alikchi:
Mission ideas:
Surrender, Belisarius - Again

So... this time the NTCv Belisarius, a heavy damaged corvette miraculously destroys the fully operational GVD Psamtik?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: NegspectahDek on February 03, 2002, 11:59:00 am
 
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Originally posted by vadar_1:
So... this time the NTCv Belisarius, a heavy damaged corvette miraculously destroys the fully operational GVD Psamtik?

No, when they power up the beam, they have a core overload and that destroys them.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 03, 2002, 03:32:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by LtNarol:
hmmm, now theres an idea, we can make the 2 campaigns part of one series, kinda like Red Alert from Westwood

do you have a name for you campaign yet GA?


No name- just "The Great War- Vasudan Imperium" or something. Here's the plan- you start off based on a Vasudan Karnak installation in (probably) Betelgeuse. You start off defending convoys, get to take out the good ol' GTC Orff, steal the Avenger prototype, and such. You first meet the Shivans in the same mission as the Terrans do- "Out of the Dark, Into the Night." This time, you watch as a Vasudan pilot while the Taurus is creamed by the Shivans. You are later offered a position on the PVD Hope, at which point you can either stay with the installation or take a tour of duty. We all know what happens to the Hope, so that's set. If you stay with the Karnak, the Lucifer eventually gets to it and bows it to smithereens- the survivors, including you, are angry and disillusioned, so decide to join the Hammer of Light and fight against the GTA and the PVN. (Remember that their mantra was based upon "some Vasudan legend citing the coming of an al-powerful race.") Based on the PVD Prophecy, you fight with guerrilla tactics on all sides in a variety of missions. Later, both branches join and conclude in an explosive four mission finale: Operation Templar!
Whaddya think?

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 03, 2002, 08:24:00 pm
So, any comments about the story itself? Speculation? How could the NTF have won?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 03, 2002, 10:00:00 pm
By cutting off the Headz supply to the GVA, tensions began to mount between both sides of the GTVA. The remaining Headz were carefully rationed, but three years after the Capella disaster, a Vasudan Destroyer jumped in and attacked a terran convoy; from the materiels captured, the Vasudans were able to create a large quantity of Headz, and resupply their fleet.
Unfortunately, one of the Terran vessels escaped and claimed that a legitimate fleet had attacked them rather than a renegade one. Armed with the quote "The best defense is a good offense", the GTA "Defended" several key Vasudan jump nodes. The Vasudans responded by "defending" the terran vessels. Soon, both empires were embroiled in a fierce war.
Meanwhile, Admiral Bosch dispatched the NTC Trinity. Unfortunately, due to the utter lack of attention the Cruiser got by Terran or Vasudan forces, Captain Roemig put it through several high-speed maneuvers. Finally, when doing a loop-de-loop over Capella, the duct tape holding the Fenris together gave out, causing the Trinity to fall into one of Capella's tree groves. Not only did Time Warner press charges for using a trademarked name, but the environmentalists pressed Khonsu II to put a stop to this "vile, disgusting, behavior that will be the end of civillized society as we know it". Khonsu II, not sure whether the environmentalists were talking about their activities or Bosch's, blockaded several key points in NTF-controlled space while all environmentalists were taken into custody.
However, Khonsu II had no idea what he had done. This action enraged many of the citizens in NTF-held space. Admiral Bosch was quoted as saying,"I DEMAND access to the public restrooms!" Finally, Bosch took decisive action. Rallying his Forces, he used the red, green, and blue sides to create an unstoppable, powerful, technological entity that could defeat the occupying fleets:
Windoes PK.
Windoes quickly assimplicated the Vasudan forces, using weapons of mass destruction such as Onice Assistants and Plug 'n Pay. Many of the Vasudan forces were overwhelmed, until only one Admiral was left-Admiral Khrogen. Drawing up his defensive plans, Khrogen told his troops one thing that galvanized them more than anything else could have done: "The Source must be released HERE!"
Unfortuately, Khrogen's forces were sued for using a trademarked phrase and were then assimplicated by Windoes.
With half his Vasudan fleet assimplicated, Khonsu II was forced to surrender, under the conditions of TREEHUG ("http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/Forum13/HTML/001959.html"). The Terran fleet, decimated, was no match for Windoes. However, just as Windoes was closing in on Alfalfa wing, it suffered a catastrophic runtime error and exploded, catching Alfalfa 2-4 in the blast but leaving Alfalfa 1 unharmed. However, without Command, there was no one to give briefings to Alfalfa 1, who had no voice actor. This left Bosch the dominate force in the universe.
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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 03, 2002, 10:05:00 pm
You are a sad, sick little man, and I pity you.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 03, 2002, 10:08:00 pm
Thunder took the parking spot quote...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Now, seriously, perhaps Bosch got his hands on the Meson bomb(s) and managed to make some sort of alliance with the Shivans or close the nodes to NTF systems, then take over what remains of the GTVA.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 04, 2002, 06:52:00 pm
My idea was, in the alternate universe the Iceni is the ship to open the portal, instead of the Trinity, and an alliance with the Shivans ensues. Soon the GTVA finds itself facing against, oh for example, a Demios armed with LReds instead of TerSlash..
The Vasudans are deported, shipped away to some faraway colony.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Vortex on February 05, 2002, 08:06:00 am
That would sound good except for the fact that you have to explain how in the world Bosch managed to convince the Shivans to go on our side when it's clearly obvious that they are far more superior.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Zeronet on February 05, 2002, 12:39:00 pm
Darn, all these Tags going about, i wonder when Arnav is going to return.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: grayswandir on February 05, 2002, 01:56:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Vortex:
That would sound except for the fact that you have to explain how in the world Bosch managed to convince the Shivans to go on our side when it's clearly obvious that they are far more superior.


I got an idea: Bosch's research team design a method to mass-produce missile based upon the meson warhead. I guess even a Sathanas would think twice before going through heavy meson fire

More seriously, there are lot of things we don't know about the shivans, and their motives. so you can imagine many reasons for them to make an alliance with bosch! (until the release of freespace 3- no, i'm just kidding!)

But just remember that if the shivans really did want to prevent GTVA to detonate the bastion, they would have send 3 or 4 sathanas, and you would never have succeed "clash of the titans 2"

Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Gloriano on February 06, 2002, 08:12:00 am
this is good idea for campaing

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Corsair on February 06, 2002, 04:16:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by grayswandir:
I got an idea: Bosch's research team design a method to mass-produce missile based upon the meson warhead. I guess even a Sathanas would think twice before going through heavy meson fire

More seriously, there are lot of things we don't know about the shivans, and their motives. so you can imagine many reasons for them to make an alliance with bosch! (until the release of freespace 3- no, i'm just kidding!)

But just remember that if the shivans really did want to prevent GTVA to detonate the bastion, they would have send 3 or 4 sathanas, and you would never have succeed "clash of the titans 2"

Agreed  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
That might make for a VERY interesting campaign, if the NTF developed serious Meson weaponry that could be used effectively. I for one would definitely play it, and I think a lot of other people would too. As for the NTF winning the civil war completely, I think only something like Meson weaponry would change the tide of the war. That might be really cool, though, if you could see Meson beams maybe? Kind of like MT's electrobeams. If anyone out there is giving this a thought, I say go for it!

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 06, 2002, 05:38:00 pm
There's actually a campaign in development with meson beams. GTD Golgotha- anyone here know where it is?

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Corsair on February 06, 2002, 06:02:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor:
There's actually a campaign in development with meson beams. GTD Golgotha- anyone here know where it is?

Yup  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Black Water Operations has the Golgotha...finding hyperlink now
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Corsair on February 06, 2002, 06:04:00 pm
BlackWater Operations ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/")
Here you go!
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 06, 2002, 07:19:00 pm
Or, what if say Alpha 1 joined the NTF instead of the GTVA?

I mean c'mon we all know that without Alpha 1, the GTVA wouldve lost the war ( (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)) and with him on the side of the NTF, thinks would be much different.

I dunno, if I did this I don't think I'd state a particular reason..maybe some GTVA admiral fouled up, made a different decision..however it was, the times changed  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 06, 2002, 07:20:00 pm
Here's a couple more what ifs for you:

What if the Muslims had won the battle of Tours in 732?

What if the Celts had managed to repulse the Roman invaders?

What if those torpedos that hit the Lusitania, bringing the U.S. into World War I, had missed?
For that matter, what if the U.S. had been on the side of Germany?


Just some things to think about  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: LtNarol on February 06, 2002, 07:53:00 pm
i think now would be a good time to point out, Meson based wareheads are not designed to be conventional weapons.  Say you shot the missile from a safe distance, some 3000 meters from you target? what are the chances that the enemy wont intercept it before it hits? the target will take some damage, but the blast would kill you and everything else within a 3000 meter radius.  If you fired much closer, so the enemy couldnt intercept it, then you'd never escape the blast.  Think about it, if you had bombers carrying these warheads, one goes down and you have a chain reaction, one sets off another.  That is why meson based warheads will never be practical for conventional use.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: grayswandir on February 07, 2002, 12:17:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by LtNarol:
i think now would be a good time to point out, Meson based wareheads are not designed to be conventional weapons.  Say you shot the missile from a safe distance, some 3000 meters from you target? what are the chances that the enemy wont intercept it before it hits? the target will take some damage, but the blast would kill you and everything else within a 3000 meter radius.  If you fired much closer, so the enemy couldnt intercept it, then you'd never escape the blast.  Think about it, if you had bombers carrying these warheads, one goes down and you have a chain reaction, one sets off another.  That is why meson based warheads will never be practical for conventional use.



We're talking about a new weapon, right? So what about a meson warhead that does lot of damage in a small radius? This weapon would be designed in such way that it concentrates all its energy in a 100 or 200 meter radius sphere and destroys all within it.
Such kind of weapon disrupts subspace fields (destroys nodes!) So it might disable jump drives for a short time...
and maybe get through the lucifer's shield!

Designing such a bomb in freespace has a disadvantage: it negates the usefulness of cruisers/corvettes/destroyers! They would be too easily destroyed by MUCH easier to produce ships!
Anyone has an idea (maybe the meson beam...or a shivan-mind control device based on etak project?)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 07, 2002, 06:31:00 pm
Sure I'd Fred for ya.(Sorry for taking a while)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 10, 2002, 07:54:00 pm
I'm done with the Surrender Belisarius.  If you want it, I'll give it to you.  The only thing you'll have to do is patch up the command briefing with the right names and stuff.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 10, 2002, 08:28:00 pm
If you're talking to me, I'll take it and work on it a bit, but keep in mind this is an "in my spare time" thing that will probably never be completed..maybe a mini-campaign of ten missions would be it. The mods are all speculative except for the ugly NTF fighter - I've found it, it was the "GRF Capson" on the Temporal Mechanics site, I think. Anyways, maybe we can work something out. My ICQ number is 143950768 - my email is [email protected]

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 10, 2002, 08:37:00 pm
   (http://hellshorses.clanpages.com/ali/gry1.jpg)  
   (http://hellshorses.clanpages.com/ali/gry2.jpg)  
   (http://hellshorses.clanpages.com/ali/gry3.jpg)  

The NTF Gryphon, a super fast, low maneuverability bomber-intercept fighter. Once of the fastest fighters ever, and a mainstay of the NTF fleet.

It needs POF data, texturing, and maybe resizing - none of which I know how to do. If anyone felt like volunteering, I'd be very much obliged.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: LtNarol on February 10, 2002, 08:42:00 pm
you cant concentrate an antimater reaction, its physically impossible, so no matter how much you concentrated it, in order for it to do more damage than a helios, then it would also do more splash damage.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Zeronet on February 11, 2002, 01:38:00 am
For gameplay reasons, it may be an idea to give it a small radius  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Black Wolf on February 11, 2002, 06:52:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Alikchi:
The Vasudans are deported, shipped away to some faraway colony.

Sorta like the Jews in WW2, or at least how the people saw it. For an interesting potential twist, go rent the movie 'Fatherland', about whatg would have happened if the Nazis had won WW2, and apply it to FS2.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 11, 2002, 02:51:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Black Wolf:
Sorta like the Jews in WW2.

Exactly, although they aren't going to be slaughtered as the Jewish people were - merely sent away to a harsh enviroment. I'm basing the whole story curve around a mix of the Civil War and World War II..should be interesting.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 11, 2002, 06:28:00 pm
Here's the NTF Trika, a standoff fighter-bomber (look to the top for the description). Okay, I just want everyone to know  that I am not making these models myself - they are slightly edited models from Total Annihilation. I don't claim credit in any way. The Trika is the Arm Liche nuclear bomber, and the Gryphon is the Arm..Gryphon.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Anyways, here you go.

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Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: TheVirtu on February 11, 2002, 06:45:00 pm
You should start the campaign by making up the event at where the 6th Fleet defected to form the NTF, you'd be there.

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Thirteen years after Capella, beginning in Tau Sigma, aboard the GTD Messana... A deadly alliance of races appears for the reason of the destruction of the GTVA as we know it. Can you stop the coming of Beyond?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 11, 2002, 07:00:00 pm
Yeah, something exactly like that  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

The Command Briefings will be Bosch's Log sometimes, too..so you can expect a lot of story
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 11, 2002, 07:55:00 pm
Log of Admiral Aken Bosch
NTF Rebellion Day 2

     Approximately four hours ago, the Galactic Terran-Vasudan Alliance declared war on the infant Neo-Terran Front - An inevitable decree, but one I hoped would never come. Only yesterday, my dream began to shape and form ; as predicted, our "regional domino effect" gutted the GTVA, and the Sixth Fleet's ships all either proclaimed their new allegiance, or suffered mutinies of varying violence. A nearly bloodless turnover. A good thing, too; there will be enough blood to come.
     The GTVA has more resources, better technology, and a larger population than the small, isolated Neo-Terran Front. By the commnets, they expect a quick, early victory. The `net is an interesting place to be, now - neither the NTF or the GTVA has sought to sever the link that allows all Terrans and Vasudans, GTVA and NTF, to argue and bicker over ideology, whereas if they met each other face-to-face, they would likely shoot each other without a second thought...The NTF's only advantages are its talented officers and the will to defend the home systems from marauding GTVA forces. I do not know if it will be enough. I have begun research into various technology that may give is a small advantage over our foe, but I feel that it will not be the deciding factor in the coming war...
    I have moved the Iceni from its original post near Freedom Shipyards (where it was built) to a station around the nearest node in-system. The GTVA will come soon, spurred on by war fever. We need to show them that we are serious about our secession..

How d'ya like that? It's more a rough draft than anything else, but you can see I've set up the first mission in the last paragraph..
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 11, 2002, 10:28:00 pm
Ok, It's been sent.  You can do with the mission whatever you would like.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Black Wolf on February 12, 2002, 06:25:00 am
Did Bosch even want to win? I thought he just wanted to use the NTF to get ETAK off the ground.

Anyway, is this going ahead? If so, who's coordinating it?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 12, 2002, 07:21:00 am
Well, it isn't going ahead per se..I figure I will plan the missions, command briefing and storyline ahead of time, then I will do the missions and mods.. It should be only about 15 missions, in the end. All I really need is help writing the missions and storyline, and a couple good FREDers, and a pof data/texturer, and we'll be well on our way  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Tar-Palantir on February 12, 2002, 07:45:00 am
 
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But just remember that if the shivans really did want to prevent GTVA to detonate the bastion, they would have send 3 or 4 sathanas, and you would never have succeed "clash of the titans 2"

That's assuming the Shivans were evenen trying to prevent the collaps of the jump nodes. The Shivans were intressed in the Capella star, they probably only went for the Bastion 'cos its a enemy warship and therefore should be eliminated.

To get back to the topic: go forth and make your campaigns! (Assuming this was the topic!)

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Post by: Black Wolf on February 14, 2002, 05:43:08 am
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Originally posted by Alikchi
Well, it isn't going ahead per se..I figure I will plan the missions, command briefing and storyline ahead of time, then I will do the missions and mods.. It should be only about 15 missions, in the end. All I really need is help writing the missions and storyline, and a couple good FREDers, and a pof data/texturer, and we'll be well on our way  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


I'd like to think I'm reasonably good with FRED, and since my campaign seems to have fallen through, I don't have a lot to do at the moment. If you need me, I'll give you a hand.We can use colour now too!
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 14, 2002, 07:42:04 am
All right :)

I think I listed my ICQ and e-mail somewhere in this thread..give me a call and we can start working :)
Title: Re: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Ulundel on February 16, 2002, 11:45:59 am
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Originally posted by Alikchi


Destroying the GTD Aquitaine
Rooting out spies (You get to kill Snipes  [img]





NOOOOOOOOOO!!! AQUITAINE.........PETRARCH.....SNIPES!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 16, 2002, 02:24:22 pm
*cackle*

Preliminary table files are ready.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 16, 2002, 02:46:39 pm
Do you like the way Surrender Belisarius went? :wink:
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 16, 2002, 02:48:09 pm
Heheh, yes :D
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 17, 2002, 10:31:39 pm
:bump:

I am working on this. Tables are pretty much complete. Since this is set at the very beginning of the NTF, you won't ever see the Erinyes, Perseus, Pegasus, or Ares - their entries have been deleted. Both the NTF and the GTVA now use the Valkyrie.

Many FS1 ships and tables have been imported thanks to the graciousness of GalacticEmperor. In mission 1, you'll be flying an Apollo loaded with Avengers and Banshees, MX-50s and Interceptors, against Myrmidons. Why? You'll find out..when I make it up.

I need people to help with the story (I already have several plot twists in mind) and of course, the usual POF Data and Texturing Guy. A good mission designer would be nice too.

I will keep you posted..

(http://hellshorses.clanpages.com/ali/m1.jpg)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 17, 2002, 10:50:20 pm
The Apollo can't carry Banshees! Give it Shield Breakers instead. :p
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 17, 2002, 11:13:56 pm
Remember, this is in the future :P

By now, the Apollo has gone through so many upgrades and changes that it can carry most anything..that's 30 years old :P

For that matter, I have a choice - I have made a table for the NTF Apollo-N. Here's the description.   The NTF Apollo-N is the result of an attempt by Admiral Bosch to upgrade the aging Apollo. By replacing decades-old components with smaller, lighter and more efficient models, NTF mechanics freed up enough space for a much larger missile bank and shield generator.

The choice is, do I keep the original Apollo (to be used at some point) AND the Apollo-N, or just replace it?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 18, 2002, 07:40:51 pm
I'll be a mission designer, if you would like me to!:bump:
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 18, 2002, 09:37:46 pm
sure - I'll mail you and Black Hawk some stuff when I'm ready
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Black Wolf on February 19, 2002, 05:50:59 am
Black Hawk? I assume you mean me?

Anyway, am I supposed to be doing anything yet? Make some missions up, or start hacking tables or whatever? Or am I just waiting for a set of tables and completed storyline? BTW, did you get my story idea?

Finally, who exactly is supposed to be helping with this?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 19, 2002, 07:28:05 am
yeah - oops
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Setekh on February 20, 2002, 05:32:37 am
Hey, this is picking up some speed! :yes: :)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 20, 2002, 02:57:43 pm
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Black Hawk? I assume you mean me?

Anyway, am I supposed to be doing anything yet? Make some missions up, or start hacking tables or whatever? Or am I just waiting for a set of tables and completed storyline? BTW, did you get my story idea?

Finally, who exactly is supposed to be helping with this?


What you're supposed to be doing: You had a lot of good ideas for the story beyond Act II..keep those in mind and brainstorm if you get the chance, I want to make the story as close to perfect as possible. As for the missions thing - yes. I'll give you Mission 2 of act 1, and Adwight mission 3. (Their outlines should be in the mail.)  The tables I sent to you are our basic version - the Justinian needs a model, the Apollo-N is getting a model from Woomeister (thanks dude :)) and some other ships need to  be added. But the basic table is done, and we have plenty of space :)
I got your story idea..those were very good ideas :) We'll need to discuss more..do you have AIM or ICQ?

And as for who's helping
Me - Mission designer, single-frame command briefing animation maker, table editor, sort of modelor, general all around guy

Black Wolf - Mission designer, story, and whatever else you can help with :)

Adwight - Ditto :)
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 20, 2002, 02:59:17 pm
Oh, and I might get hosted here, if I ever get around making a site (read - making someone else make the site), which is unlikely.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Black Wolf on February 21, 2002, 04:32:02 am
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Originally posted by Alikchi


We'll need to discuss more..do you have AIM or ICQ?



I should be able to get on ICQ some time soon, as soon as I find my old number and reinstall.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 22, 2002, 05:44:41 pm
Not to be a bother, But I never got any mail from you.  You still gonna mail on what you want for mission 3?  [email protected] is my email address if you forgot.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 22, 2002, 08:53:51 pm
Thanks - I couldn't find your email - I must have lost it when my email server went down. One moment - sending you the stuff now. Black Wolf, did you get the table files?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: adwight on February 22, 2002, 08:56:40 pm
Thanks, Alikchi.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 22, 2002, 08:57:40 pm
No problem - thank you for helping :)

Is anyone willing to do a website for us? I can do a bit of HTML and a bit of FrontPage - not nearly enough, though.
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Galemp on February 25, 2002, 08:47:10 pm
*raises hand* I can do some pretty decent things with HTML. I wrote my own page from scratch. Gaudy special effects look unprofessional, but I can do them.
<------- :thepimp:
The Port is nearing completion so I'll have a little time on my hands. I'm also a big fan of alternate universes. :D What's the server you're using?
Title: Neo-Terra Victorious
Post by: Alikchi on February 26, 2002, 09:21:46 pm
Oooh, thanks dude! Talk to me on ICQ later - I can't talk now, sorry. Homework, blah. Tomorrow -