Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2001, 04:46:00 am
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/freespace/cairo.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/freespace/olympus.jpg)
Again, requests are open. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Griffon UK on February 19, 2001, 06:47:00 am
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Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2001, 03:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by Thunder:
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) You have way to much time on your hands dude - but great work! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Heheh, not really - but I just couldn't let the Cairo and Olympus sit there without people seeing (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2001, 03:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Griffon UK:
i like the GVI... still not convinced about the Olympus though... seems to be functionality over style, & who wants that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Well, it certainly does its job - you ever tried making a run on this thing? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2001, 03:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Setekh - what do you do to get that colored lighting?
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Originally posted by Starwing:
He has special powers (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Something like that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Transparencies and hue changes are A-1 Supar (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
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Post by: NeoHunter on February 19, 2001, 07:39:00 pm
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Post by: Setekh on February 20, 2001, 03:19:00 am
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Dont I just feel the stupid one (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Heheh, yeh. It's great when you figure out a way around things. This is my solution to coloured lighting - it's versatile and easy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: IPAndrews on February 20, 2001, 05:47:00 am
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Originally posted by Griffon UK:
seems to be functionality over style, & who wants
The trick is to strive for both. In the case of the Olympus, the functionality is there. The ship design concept is perfect. Unfortunately I never could get away from it looking like an ironing board (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif).
I'll send Setekh the Black Widow. I wasn't initially happy with the appearance of that either. But once painted up it looked awesome. The same can't honestly be said of the Olympus.
Post by: Bobboau on February 20, 2001, 06:55:00 am
(http://members.aol.com/bobboau/GVIhi.jpg)
it should be a higher res now
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Post by: Ace on February 20, 2001, 08:48:00 pm
However, plot wise, I'd say it is a more primitive ship from the begining of the Terran-Vasudan war in design:
GTC Amalthia- circa 2321
Designed originally to end the brief insurgentcy within the Beta Aquilae system only months before it's launch, the Amalthia was the begining of the Galatic Terran Alliance's fleet programs.
The spaceyards required to build this vessel, have led to the ability for the alliance to construct vessels of similar magnitude for the upcoming strife with the Vasudan people.
The Amalthia is designed for full coverage for it's advanced missile system, the firepower contained within it's frame is by far more than in any spacefaring vessel ever constructed. (historical note: up until 2324, capital ships rely upon warhead systems utilizing nuclear devices, or upon mass driver type weaponry)
However, this vessel is nothing compared to the new paradigm of space warfare the alliance destroyer currently being constructed, the GTD Tethys. (historical note: up until the Tethys, fightercraft were used for anti-piracy due to their ineffectiveness compared to GTA planetary defense grids, the Tethys utilized the latest technologies to create a viable warship that could house fightercraft designed to engage and destroy capital ships, the Tethys caught the Vasudans off guard until their ship design revolution with classes such as the Aten and Typhon, followed by the alliance's adaptation of their new technologies into designs such as the Fenris, the Kypris destroyers, and later the Orion destroyers)
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Post by: Martinus on February 20, 2001, 09:17:00 pm
That's not a reason to quit though.
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Post by: Setekh on February 20, 2001, 11:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau:
not bad, let me show you how I would have done it though.
How you would have done it? You just did (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
That is damn nice. Especially seeing as you did it entirely in TS - amazing. I can't even imagine. However a couple of things - the background lacks detail, is that a TS rendering thing? And the way that Cairo beam cuts straight through the Moloch - no explosion! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Lastly, the contrast is a little high. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/cool.gif)
Still. That looks amazing. Great work, Bobboau! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Setekh on February 20, 2001, 11:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
Yikes!! You're churning these things out faster than it takes me to fully appreaciate them (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
That's not a reason to quit though.
Heheh, sorry - shall I slow down? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
As for not quitting - I need requests! Which ones do you want next? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Bobboau on February 21, 2001, 01:53:00 am
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Post by: Fineus on February 21, 2001, 02:12:00 am
Great work!
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Post by: IPAndrews on February 21, 2001, 02:13:00 am
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GTC Amalthia- circa 2321
Designed originally to end the brief insurgentcy within the Beta Aquilae system only months before it's launch, the Amalthia was the begining of the Galatic Terran Alliance's fleet programs. The spaceyards required to build this vessel, have led to the ability for the alliance to construct vessels of similar magnitude for the upcoming strife with the Vasudan people. The Amalthia is designed for full coverage for it's advanced missile system, the firepower contained within it's frame is by far more than in any spacefaring vessel ever constructed[/B]
Sounds very similar. I'd love to see the ship. Is it a Freespace 1 vessel?
Post by: Bobboau on February 21, 2001, 02:32:00 am
if you want I'll give you the Moloch model I used.
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Post by: Bobboau on February 21, 2001, 03:49:00 am
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Post by: Martinus on February 21, 2001, 10:45:00 am
Much obliged.
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Post by: Bobboau on February 21, 2001, 01:37:00 pm
(http://members.aol.com/bobboau/heck.jpg)
I think that HLP has a copy of every model I have made, well the ones that arn't top secret, wich is what I've been doing mostly ever sence the cairo.
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Post by: Griffon UK on February 21, 2001, 02:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau:
hey does anyone have a little tool that can make an AVI out of a bunch of BMPs or PCXs
download Paint Shop Pro... Animation Shop can do it...
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Post by: Griffon UK on February 21, 2001, 03:08:00 pm
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(http://members.aol.com/bobboau/heck.jpg)
im curious... wheres all the next-gen ships?
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Post by: Fineus on February 21, 2001, 03:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bobboau:With the aid of Glitterato I can knock you up an unlimited supply, or you might want to download it yourself (it needs Photoshop though). www.flamingpear.com ("http://www.flamingpear.com") is the link if your interested, and email me if you want me to do you some nebulas (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
dose anyone have a good library of background images. at the moment I only have like five, and only about two of them are any good.
Edit: Nice pic BTW, I like it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Griffon UK on February 21, 2001, 04:22:00 pm
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The trick is to strive for both. In the case of the Olympus, the functionality is there. The ship design concept is perfect.
Thats another problem...
your striving for 100% functionality... but a ship that has a 100 degree firing arc isn't balanced...
the whole point of all FS cap ships is to make them dangerous & effective while giving them an obvious weakness! (that weakness is the fun part of capship assaults)
examples?
Sathanas - Extremly Heavy weaponry concentration on the front, minimalistic on the back
Orion - Hard hitting against capships, but weak minimalist defence, especially on the underside!
Deimos - Again, low concentration of defensive weapons on the underside...
im not knocking you designs, if the thing was real, it would be taken up by military powers in an instant, but in its current *game* state, the ship sounds like its hard, if not impossible to destroy by fighters/bombers simply cos they are torn to pieces before they can get near!
Sure capships can tear it a new one, but the player doesn't control them, meaning some of the 'spark' is lost...
anyway, keep up the good work (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Griffon UK on February 21, 2001, 04:27:00 pm
btw, im doing it again... im speaking my mind... dont take offense
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Post by: Setekh on February 21, 2001, 11:01:00 pm
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(it needs Photoshop though).
*cough!* ("http://www.ulead.com/pi/trial.htm")
*splutter!* ("http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/Product/Details&id=CC1OWMK03AC") (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Post by: Fineus on February 22, 2001, 01:28:00 am
Ok, it needs Photoshop or a Photoshop equiviliant (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Post by: Setekh on February 22, 2001, 01:50:00 am
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Thankyou Sekik (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Sekik? Now that's a new one. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Post by: Bobboau on February 22, 2001, 02:06:00 am
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Post by: IPAndrews on February 22, 2001, 02:19:00 am
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Originally posted by Griffon UK:
the whole point of all FS cap ships is to make them dangerous & effective while giving them an obvious weakness!
The ship has weaknesses vs other cap ships. I didn't give the ship a weakness against fighters because I didn't want fighters attacking it. That's the whole idea. This limits the amount of fun a player can have with the ship, but there you go (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).
Campaign wise, it's best used in a method similar to the Collosus. A rare site. Popping up now and again at opportune moments for set pieces. Perhaps coming to the rescue of a GTVA convoy at the end of a misson and mopping up. Or protecting a convoy from bombers while you rush off to take out a Shivan cap ship's beam cannons to prevent it being toasted from stem to stern.
If you're scripting missions along the lines of "Tally ho chaps. You're mission today Alpha 1 is to command Alpha wing (some damn fine pilots if I do say so myself) in a daring bomber raid against the GTVA's newest, most technologically advanced, and largest, dedicated, bomber killing machine. Now I know what you're thinking, but the brigadier has every confidence that your exceptional skill will see you through. Dismissed." then you deserve everything you get (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif).
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Post by: Fineus on February 22, 2001, 06:02:00 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau:
well it oesn't help me cause I have the most craptasticist 56k in the seventh plain of AOHELL. anything over 2 megs is prety much out of the question.
How come? most 56Ks are pretty cheap these days... and you live in the US... so you should be having Uberfast cable connections or something (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Post by: Martinus on February 22, 2001, 01:00:00 pm
Thanks again.
Oh! I almost forgot to mention...
Thunder, you have failed to pass TSM-108S training simulator, please repeat the training mission and try to spell "Setekh" correctly.
Awww, this one's old (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Setekh on February 22, 2001, 11:08:00 pm
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How come? most 56Ks are pretty cheap these days... and you live in the US... so you should be having Uberfast cable connections or something (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Yeh! Besides, I live in Australia (you can't get much further from American servers) with a 56k, and I regularly download 70mb files. What you need is an unlimited hours/download account and GetRight or GoZilla (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Bobboau on February 23, 2001, 01:15:00 am
I'm gona get my own system soon I'm trying to pick one, I'm think'n one of thouse 1Ghz athlons with a 200Mhz bus and a 64meg TV out Geforce card. Is AMD coming out with anything better to compete with the P4's 400Mhz bus, the only thing it has over the Athlon.
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Post by: Setekh on February 23, 2001, 02:06:00 am
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I get like 18000 if I'm lucky. it's been down to 5600.
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)
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Is AMD coming out with anything better to compete with the P4's 400Mhz bus, the only thing it has over the Athlon.
The Athlon does have support for DDR SDRAM... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Bobboau on February 23, 2001, 02:27:00 am
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Post by: Bushwacker on February 23, 2001, 10:54:00 pm
Post by: Setekh on February 23, 2001, 11:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bushwacker:
Hey Seketh (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) remember that pic I sent over ICQ? Try rendering that smacking at a Shivan something-or-other
S-e-t-e-k-h (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Anyway, I'd love to render it - as soon as someone models it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Post by: Bushwacker on February 23, 2001, 11:22:00 pm
I'd take a stab at modeling it, but I lack the knowledge and tools to even try. And on a low-grade 56k, there ain't no way I'll ever be able to d/l a Bad Thing, unless someone out there has a CD-R and is a very generous soul...
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Post by: Bushwacker on February 23, 2001, 11:30:00 pm
Wait, I think do. Let's see if I get this right: Make a background. Take prefab 3d models. Position in pleasing setup. Place polygonal object (ie cylinder) in position and texture to look like a beam. Select "Render" from the Render menu, save resulting BMP, convert to better image format, post on site for all to see.
Post by: Setekh on February 24, 2001, 12:30:00 am
Post by: Bobboau on February 24, 2001, 03:26:00 am
cause I have one, it isn't quite done, it isn't animateable and it dosn't have a texture (though it dose have most UV space)
but it is somewhat reminisant of a shivan.
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Post by: Fineus on February 24, 2001, 03:50:00 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau:Would you be able to finish that and put it into a COB for me (it doesnt need animation, just a skin and an "average Shivan look", I'd like to try using it in some renders some time (you'll remember the Shivan landing on the Thoth and destroying it by kicking it? something like that (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
do you need a shivan model?
cause I have one, it isn't quite done, it isn't animateable and it dosn't have a texture
If you cant - it's no trouble, just a cool idea...
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Post by: Setekh on February 24, 2001, 05:44:00 am
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Post by: Martinus on February 24, 2001, 08:30:00 pm
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Post by: IPAndrews on February 25, 2001, 06:09:00 am
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Originally posted by Thunder:
if it lost half it's guns it'd still bea massive threat...
I aim to please. I'll do a crapper version.
Post by: Fineus on February 25, 2001, 06:40:00 am
Well - you dont have to, but if you wanted to make a properly balanced version you'd loose half the guns (dont do it just for me though, it's no biggy).
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Post by: Bushwacker on March 01, 2001, 04:43:00 pm
Apologies, I had no clue, and besides I didn't see a rulebook lying around anywhere...
well, now that I've proven my infinite newbieness...
Geez it feels wierd to see your handiwork put up in a semi-public/private forum...