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Hosted Projects - FS2 Required => Inferno => Topic started by: foolfromhell on May 26, 2008, 08:11:02 pm
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I remember playing Inferno R1 a long time ago and I remember playing two versions of the "you are still in Sol". One of them was Sol, A History.
But one post from Nov. 2006 says INFA has been released while another from 2007 says it is still in production. I know for a fact that INF: SCP is still in production.
Is INFA playable? And where do I get INF R1? We need a sticky with all the download links...
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With Inferno, it's more like you need a dictionary to figure out what all of the convoluted acronyms mean. I've been considering hiring the team a marketing expert for a while now. :p You should be able to grab R1 from the Inferno website (http://inferno.hard-light.net/) and the original Alliance release from its site (http://inferno.hard-light.net/SOL/index.html) (which isn't linked on the main Inferno page, for some strange reason). The way I understand it right now, the team is now working on a stand-alone Alliance pack that will work with both it and its sequel, though that's still in progress.
As for Sol: A History, it wasn't developed by the actual Inferno team but by an individual named Blaise Russell; he did use Inferno's ship pack for the mod, though. Due to its age, it had some rather significant table issues that prevented it from playing nice with newer SCP builds, but ShadowGorrath did some upgrades (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52159.140.html) to it that should allow it to work. I think there's a more substantial upgrade in-progress here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52818.20.html).
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Whoa. Thanks!
Wait. Why does the Inferno Alliance page have versions for FSOPen and regular? What's the difference between Inferno Core and Alliance Core?
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Don't quote me on this, but I believe you'll need both the Alliance Core and Alliance Inferno files. If you had the SCP version of Inferno, you could get by with just the Alliance Core files, but since that hasn't been released yet (and will probably be greatly changed when it is, anyway), you'll need both sets to get all of the required files. All of this is going to be outdated eventually, when the stand-alone version of Alliance is released, so this is pretty much just a stopgap measure.
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keep INFA and INFR1 in seperate mods. And R1 needs to be in a folder named INFR1 for S:AH to work, unless you change Sol's Mod.ini.
And INFASA will be out this summer... not sure if that includes INFA2. And also...
INFSCP will be out in 2010, and then you'll have 2 years to play it.
@Mongoose you're right, Inferno acronyms are more annoying then that stupid language people text eachother in.
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INFR1 - The original Inferno, the one you know. Shadow0000 released a patch some time ago, look in the Inferno forum (not by the Inferno team). There is also a patch to make it SCP compatible, PM me if you need instructions. (Made by the Inferno team)
INF:SCP - A complete remake of INFR1, starting from the ground up. Uses the SCP engine and has many HTL ships. Yet to be released. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno Team)
INF:A - Inferno Alliance. A campaign that shows what happened in the Sol system after the jump node collapsed. (Made by the Inferno team)
INFASA - Inferno Alliance Stand-Alone. And update to INFA making almost all of the ships HTL, and improving the campaign. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno team)
INFA2 - Inferno Alliance 2. The sequel to Inferno: Alliance, will be released as a mod for INFASA. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno team)
INFR2 - The sequel to INFR1, dropped in favor of INF:SCP (By the Inferno team)
S:AH - Sol: A History. Alternate campaign about Sol after the Lucifer disaster. Made by Blaise Russel. An amazing campaign, I have yet to play it as I can't get it to work. (Fan-Made)
Solar Wars - A buggy campaign that deals with jumping Knososses and desroyers that can withstand the main beams of a Gigas. You are recommended not to play it. (Fan-Made)
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Now WHY........ couldn't i find a single post like the one above me back when i had the patience to get them all..
I've R1'd INFA'd and SOLAH'd.........The rest i'll pass on.. :P
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INFR1 - The original Inferno, the one you know. Shadow0000 released a patch some time ago, look in the Inferno forum (not by the Inferno team). There is also a patch to make it SCP compatible, PM me if you need instructions. (Made by the Inferno team)
INF:SCP - A complete remake of INFR1, starting from the ground up. Uses the SCP engine and has many HTL ships. Yet to be released. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno Team)
INF:A - Inferno Alliance. A campaign that shows what happened in the Sol system after the jump node collapsed. (Made by the Inferno team)
INFASA - Inferno Alliance Stand-Alone. And update to INFA making almost all of the ships HTL, and improving the campaign. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno team)
INFA2 - Inferno Alliance 2. The sequel to Inferno: Alliance, will be released as a mod for INFASA. (Work-In-Progress by the Inferno team)
INFR2 - The sequel to INFR1, dropped in favor of INF:SCP (By the Inferno team)
S:AH - Sol: A History. Alternate campaign about Sol after the Lucifer disaster. Made by Blaise Russel. An amazing campaign, I have yet to play it as I can't get it to work. (Fan-Made)
Solar Wars - A buggy campaign that deals with jumping Knososses and desroyers that can withstand the main beams of a Gigas. You are recommended not to play it. (Fan-Made)
Thanks a bunch man!
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well I would just like a nicely fredded AND nicely written AND nicely voice-acted Inferno SCP that finishs the story arc from Freespace 1 and 2.
Something like a user-made Freespace 3 :lol: Guess I am asking way to much.
To think of that Inferno SCP wont be out for a long time and that it will only be the first chapter... :shaking:
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Something is missing there.
"Inferno Team" is generic as there are two badges, INF SCP and INFA. I'm a member of the INFA team, not the INF SCP one. Woomeister is the only member working actively on both projects. Many INF SCP features remain unknown to me since I'm not part of the developing team.
Sadly, the INFA team is the only active one, the other is composed by inactive members or people busy with RL. Me and Snail could start working on INF SCP as soon as INFA2 is complete, but that won't happen anytime soon.
Please don't forget that the INFA project involves three campaigns:
1) The first INFA one, made by Woomeister only. I've tested it before the release alongside with Snail and a few other people. The campaign has been released with the original INFA pack.
2) INFA1, that will be released with INFA SA, is a considerable improvement of the first campaign with more missions, characters, high level FREDding and new stuff. Don't see it as a normal revamping as all missions have been radically changed - it'll be like playing a new campaign. This campaign is in very good shape, only a handful of missions are to be completed and delays are due to RL (me, Snail and Edivad have important exams). It'll be hard to see this one released after summer, believe me.
3) INFA2, that will need INFA SA to run, is a sequel to INFA1. It will feature many new ships and many, many missions. No missions have been FREDded yet and discussions about plot and modpack are in progress. Don't expect it anytime soon because we have great hopes and want it to be a very nice campaign with unique ideas.
well I would just like a nicely fredded AND nicely written AND nicely voice-acted Inferno SCP that finishs the story arc from Freespace 1 and 2.
Something like a user-made Freespace 3 :lol: Guess I am asking way to much.
To think of that Inferno SCP wont be out for a long time and that it will only be the first chapter... :shaking:
I perfectly know and understand that but I'd suggest to take in consideration the upcoming INFA release as it will pretty interesting. There are many differences between it and the old INFA one, so...
PS The FreeSpace Wiki has pages about the many INF versions and they're meant to avoid confusion. Just consult them. :)
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INFA2 will also include a vast majority of the INFSCP EA ships, am i right? ;)
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INFA2's EA isn't exactly what you think it is. There will be ship designs you won't see in INF SCP :nod:
And don't forget that INF SCP's EA is given by the unification of Sol, with all its factions...ehm...I can't tell you more...
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Now WHY........ couldn't i find a single post like the one above me back when i had the patience to get them all..
I've R1'd INFA'd and SOLAH'd.........The rest i'll pass on.. :P
I know I've typed that on like 4 different occasions, and yet it took me like 20 minutes to find that.
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How do I install R1?
I have SCP...
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Make a folder inside your FS2 folder. Select it in the installer menu. Install the patch to this folder as well.
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we really gotta make a wiki page on how to install mods... or a stickied thread to help newcomers figure out how to get this setup. it's pretty hard without help.
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Readmes are also useful. ITHOV had one and that's how I learnt how to install mods.
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I'd really like to see something around, like a FAQ for newcomers in our main page. That would help.
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There are many differences between it and the old INFA one, so...
will there be voice-acting? it may seem strange considering that I fredded campaigns myself but I hardly play anything that's not voice acted. It's just not immersing when you have to read the dialogue :lol:
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As Woomeister said time ago voice acting would delay the release of several months. INFA1 and INFA2 will probably be voice acted in a second moment, after the release.
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As Woomeister said time ago voice acting would delay the release of several months. INFA1 and INFA2 will probably be voice acted in a second moment, after the release.
Explain what you mean.
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"Second moment" is an Italian phrase meaning the immediate future. So I could say "I'll FRED in a second moment."
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I don't mind helping with what little free time I have nowadays, but frankly I don't know what I can contribute to. I don't have any solid, dependable skills.
My FRED experience is mish-mash from FRED1 and any real FREDder can probably do what I can do, and do it more efficiently too. And perhaps make more variations between missions instead of the usual "frag a bunch of enemies, defend a single/few target(s)". Tables at an extremely basic level too. Most of what I did always ended up turning into M.A.D. AI fights where the player never really did play a role in the final outcome of the battle (although the missions could probably end faster with a more assured level of winning if the player did play his/her role). :doubt:
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the emphasis is on probably :rolleyes:
Still, looking forward to playing something new.
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"Second moment" is an Italian phrase meaning the immediate future. So I could say "I'll FRED in a second moment."
Not immediate future but generally "after". The campaign'll probably get voice acted after a while...in any case, not before the first INFA SA release.
the emphasis is on probably :rolleyes:
Still, looking forward to playing something new.
You'll have something new... :D
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You guys need to clean up these forums. Get rid of the threads full of festering broken image links and have one unified "DOWNLOADS" thread that is actually readable.
All this discussion of different versions of released projects that are being remade while other projects are spun-off from the original release while a seperate team spins-off to remake the original release is making my brain melt all over my new keyboard.
I love your work please continue. :yes:
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You guys need to clean up these forums. Get rid of the threads full of festering broken image links and have one unified "DOWNLOADS" thread that is actually readable.
The stickied threads are the only ones which really matter, the rest are just the insane rantings of a once great person.
All this discussion of different versions of released projects that are being remade while other projects are spun-off from the original release while a seperate team spins-off to remake the original release is making my brain melt all over my new keyboard.
I guess we should get a "guide to Inferno" thread or something then.
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S:AH - Sol: A History. Alternate campaign about Sol after the Lucifer disaster. Made by Blaise Russel. An amazing campaign, I have yet to play it as I can't get it to work. (Fan-Made)
How do you know it's amazing if you've never played it?
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S:AH - Sol: A History. Alternate campaign about Sol after the Lucifer disaster. Made by Blaise Russel. An amazing campaign, I have yet to play it as I can't get it to work. (Fan-Made)
How do you know it's amazing if you've never played it?
When 99% of those who play it say it's amazing, chances are, it is. (And it IS pretty damn good).
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When 99% of those who play it say it's amazing, chances are, it is. (And it IS pretty damn good).
99% of those who play go will probably say that it's amazing. Still, I doubt it.
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And I've now played it, and hold firm to that description.
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When 99% of those who play it say it's amazing, chances are, it is. (And it IS pretty damn good).
99% of those who play go will probably say that it's amazing. Still, I doubt it.
I've never quite understood all the hullabaloo over S:AH myself.
INF:R1 was far more memorable.
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I don't get what's so awesome about S:AH either.
I utterly hate that mission where you have to defend two Fenris though (in S:AH).
Its impossible.
The Hercs just jump in and splash one with a single volley of hornets...and then you finish off one wave andg o like "oh well, I can pass with one", then another wing jumps in and smashes the other one.
If by some miracle they survive, Medusas and Ursas warp in...and finally, CTD when they're about to jump out :hopping: Got that a few times, then gave up on S:AH.
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It's not epic, but it's a good campaign. What I don't see is the hype about BP. Sure it was good, but I found it quite buggy, and although original, not as "WOW" as people make it out to be.
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It's not epic, but it's a good campaign. What I don't see is the hype about BP. Sure it was good, but I found it quite buggy, and although original, not as "WOW" as people make it out to be.
I didn't encounter any bugs myself, but enjoyed it overall. Like many stories however, the latter half of the campaign was less enjoyable than the first half I think. But that's the problem, in general its hard to make a great story and its even harder to finish it with a great ending. What I enjoyed most was the presentation of the story at some places. Transcend is the one I don't understand people raving about. But anyway, this is a topic for another forum.
Needles to say, I think the Inferno team should get around to stickying some "about Inferno Acronyms" thread so people quit asking questions. I asked the same question myself a few months ago I know.
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I think it'd be even better if certain team members stopped throwing around multiple acronyms per post like they were getting paid to do so. It's not all that hard to type out "Alliance" or "Release 1" every once in a while. Then again, the excessive use of acronyms is an idiosyncratic pet peeve of mine, so I doubt it bothers anyone else nearly as much.
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I think it'd be even better if certain team members stopped throwing around multiple acronyms per post like they were getting paid to do so. It's not all that hard to type out "Alliance" or "Release 1" every once in a while. Then again, the excessive use of acronyms is an idiosyncratic pet peeve of mine, so I doubt it bothers anyone else nearly as much.
Campaign acronyms don't bother me so much as "QFT". There are certain members of the board (that is, HLP) who'll repeatedly post nothing but that in half the threads they read and ***damn it's annoying.
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That includes Goober, eh? :P
People should 1) Read the Wiki page about Inferno and 2) Play and know this alternate universe before posting new and confusing topics.
The Wiki page clearly indicates what's is released and what it isn't.
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It's really not hard to understand the acronyms. What most people find more difficult (at least in my experience) is what is inf-canon and what isn't.
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It's really not hard to understand the acronyms. What most people find more difficult (at least in my experience) is what is inf-canon and what isn't.
Or in other words, half the people out there think S:AH is part of the story proper.
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That's pretty strange because the creator of S:AH isn't part of the INF team.
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Well what n00b would know that?
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A n00b who reads the credits, maybe?
Playing INFA first and INFA1&INFA2 then is enough, IMO. S:AH is one of the many custom campaigns in circulation...