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Title: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 16, 2008, 11:52:44 am
today i thought i might try out some old games which i have no played in a long while.

Ancient conquest, the thing is this version is in polish so i do not have a clue how to pass mission 4 after defeating the various enemies on that map and collecting all the artifacts.

Thief the dark project, on mission 7 on my way out of Constantine's building and saved until i resume it

Laser light, angles are deceptive and one hell of a game!.

wolfenstein 3d, exactly the same as dynasty of spear, very fun game.

transport tycoon, a president on the company profiles leaderboard and a huge chunk of different businesses, using maglev trains and super aircraft. starting out in africa-like map layout next.


any old games you have just play or thinking about playing?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 16, 2008, 11:58:34 am
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds. Heard of it, could never find it. I'm thinking of re-installing my Bioshock so I could try mixing a few new plasmids together. I also wish my Uprising/Dark Reign/Armor Command/Total Anhilation were compatible with Vista. Oh, and I also wish I could find an Uprising 2 cd in Singapore.

I've heard of Transport Tycoon, but never really got into it. Is it fun?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 16, 2008, 12:01:53 pm
can be if your willing to wait for your business to expand. their are a few variables which can also make you laugh, a light hearted attempt into creating a business manager game.

however i am unsure why you asked me if it is fun, you will need to find out yourself, i can not answer that for you :P.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on August 16, 2008, 01:43:46 pm
this is all I use my pc for nowadays.....
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 16, 2008, 04:02:16 pm
I replay just about all of my old games every four or five years. I'm currently going through Descent 3 and will probably start playing System Shock 2 in co-op in a few days.

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I also wish my Uprising/Dark Reign/Armor Command/Total Anhilation were compatible with Vista.

What is the issue with TA? I use XP but I've played many co-op games in that during the last few months.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Polpolion on August 16, 2008, 04:13:44 pm
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System Shock 2 in co-op in a few days.

If you get delayed like two weeks, tell me and I'd like to join in. I'm out of town this week and two or three days next week. :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 16, 2008, 04:19:24 pm
I replay just about all of my old games every four or five years. I'm currently going through Descent 3 and will probably start playing System Shock 2 in co-op in a few days.

Heh, I just finished the Mercenary expansion, myself.

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Mind if I get in on that co-op game?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 16, 2008, 05:23:23 pm
Well, last weekend I finally finished Dungeon Keeper for the first time, a good 10 years after I bought it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: TrashMan on August 16, 2008, 06:08:43 pm
Baldurs Gate series (1, 2, ToTSC, TOB)

Outcast

System Shock 2

EV: Nova

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 16, 2008, 08:02:07 pm
AoE/II, Stronghold/Crusader, Midtown Madness 1/2, Some weird game about... I dunno, Tax deductible space or something.

Also, Counter Strike, HomeWorld2, and a few more.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 16, 2008, 08:33:01 pm
What is the issue with TA? I use XP but I've played many co-op games in that during the last few months.
Works fine on XP but crashes a lot on Vista, which is my OS.

Well, last weekend I finally finished Dungeon Keeper for the first time, a good 10 years after I bought it.
I love that game.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Nuclear1 on August 16, 2008, 09:23:08 pm
HomeWorld2

:ick:

If you have to play Homeworld games, make it Homeworld 1 or Cataclysm.  HW2 was terrible.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 16, 2008, 09:33:57 pm
If you have to play Homeworld games, make it Homeworld 1 or Cataclysm.  HW2 was terrible.
Sacriliage! T'was just as good as HW1 and Cataclysm!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 17, 2008, 03:30:48 am
its a trade off for me on homeworld series.
on homeworld 1 you got individual units you can move about, limited fuel and many random things going off like a computer ai accidentally stumbling across a derelict or computer ai salvaging one of your carriers and heavy cruisers. although it does get boring after a while.

cataclysm closes that down but the story line is not too good and is too easy.

homeworld 2 opens it up a slight bit or boredom, a few advanced camera movements, again not too good storyline, individual movement of units is limited however very powerful units and tactical usage is required such as get a few destryoers directly above the hiigaran battlecruiser to prevent the ion cannon from ripping a gaping hole in your fleet or get behind the vaygr battleship takes the engines then missile batteries out and destroy the ship from the rear, make sure to also keep taking the missile batteries out, in original homeworld their was none of that, all you needed was a big force directed at the mothership. in my opinion of course.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on August 17, 2008, 07:04:36 am
HomeWorld2

:ick:

If you have to play Homeworld games, make it Homeworld 1 or Cataclysm.  HW2 was terrible.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Sarafan on August 17, 2008, 12:35:32 pm
Old games? Two old games I'm playing now, Metal Fatigue and Conquest: Frontier Wars, both are good RTS games, has anyone ever heard of them?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 17, 2008, 12:40:37 pm
Old games? Two old games I'm playing now, Metal Fatigue and Conquest: Frontier Wars, both are good RTS games, has anyone ever heard of them?
The first rings a bell, I actually have the second one lying around in my house somewhere. I think it was a pretty good game.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 17, 2008, 04:22:18 pm
Sacriliage! T'was just as good as HW1 and Cataclysm!

Didn't play the SP campaign much did you?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 03:24:06 am
Didn't play the SP campaign much did you?
For what, all three or HW2? I played all three SP campaigns lots. I don't see whats so bad about it. Unless you don't like the "Hiigaran's are saviors of the universe" storyline.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 18, 2008, 03:29:33 am
more like a lost peoples grandeur reclaimed, accidential heroes and religous visionary part real :rolleyes:.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mars on August 18, 2008, 04:37:22 am
Thing that drives me insane about Bioshock is that it was so good, I don't want to keep replaying it and get board with it. Perverse logic I know
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 18, 2008, 05:11:28 am
For what, all three or HW2? I played all three SP campaigns lots. I don't see whats so bad about it. Unless you don't like the "Hiigaran's are saviors of the universe" storyline.

You either played a different game from me, or your HW2 was somehow patched to prevent the Vaygr outnumbering insanity.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 06:09:32 am
You either played a different game from me, or your HW2 was somehow patched to prevent the Vaygr outnumbering insanity.
Vaygr outnumbering insanity? You mean the fact that the Hiigaran Navy is nearly non-existant during the entire campaign, yet the Vaygr seem like insects in terms of numbers?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 18, 2008, 06:42:32 am
which explains why i think the hw2 story isnt very good. the vaygr completely surprised the hiigarans at tanis in the great wastelands (background, huge cylindrical shape pieces of ship hull! from the looks of it stand it against the pride of hiigara and it makes the hiigaran mothership look like an insect). the vaygr followed the hiigarans progress because of something which has been in the hiigarans prosession since the mass exodus to kharak serveral hundred years previous.

the death of the bentusi race which i didn't like, they had fighters that could own anything i suspect, shame about that.

homeworld aside, anyone that can translate polish into english? i really want past mission 4 on ancient conquest, been stuck on that mission for 3 days, had it been in english i probably would of passed it in minutes. however i can not get ancient conquest downloaded anywhere in english.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 07:04:37 am
which explains why i think the hw2 story isnt very good. the vaygr completely surprised the hiigarans at tanis in the great wastelands (background, huge cylindrical shape pieces of ship hull! from the looks of it stand it against the pride of hiigara and it makes the hiigaran mothership look like an insect). the vaygr followed the hiigarans progress because of something which has been in the hiigarans prosession since the mass exodus to kharak serveral hundred years previous.

The wreckages you see in the Great Wasteland are derelicts. The Homeworld series is littered with wreckage like that, hints of races capable of building ships so massive and so advanced.
Spoiler:
The Progenitors are an example of this. One mission takes place in debris that is merely a single section of an entire Progenitor ship.

The Vaygr attacked the Hiigarans for their empire. The Hiigaran empire occupies much of the inner galactic core, which comprises some of the most resource rich planets in their continuity, resources the Vaygr wanted. Makaan wanted the hyperspace core in the Pride of Hiigara, and the Vaygr invasion only started after Makaan found the Third Core and united the Vaygr into a single warband, which is why the Vaygrs didn't invade until now.

And the Second Core might have been in the Exiles' posession, but they never knew about it until the scanning accident, and they never knew its significance till about a hundred years later.

the death of the bentusi race which i didn't like, they had fighters that could own anything i suspect, shame about that.
Actually, the Bentusi were already dying out. They were primarily traders, and had no real combat capapbility by HW2, or refused to use it. And the Bentus Harborship actually self destructed to save the Pride of Hiigara.


Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 18, 2008, 07:09:57 am
Vaygr outnumbering insanity? You mean the fact that the Hiigaran Navy is nearly non-existant during the entire campaign, yet the Vaygr seem like insects in terms of numbers?

There's insectlike and there's 13 (count 'em) Vaygr battlecruisers vs my 1, dreadnaught, and a DD. And all 13 of them are together so there's really nothing to be done about tactics, you'd just have to hit them with a sledgehammer that's totally impossible due to the game's logistics cap.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: asyikarea51 on August 18, 2008, 07:34:13 am
Uhh... Counter-Strike I guess... but that's not really revisiting to me, new friends to battle against and all.

Far Cry for 5 minutes just to try a mod only to :doubt: at the gun animations and sounds and uninstall, SOF 2 for a while and eventually getting bored of the auto shotgun and grenade launcher, Max Payne 1/2 just to stunt around and then quit out of boredom, NFS HP2 out of desperation to find a car game that's friendly to user-made cars while not being too old like NFS4 which for some reason lags on my computer when it shouldn't... Most Wanted doesn't count simply because of preference...

Old games are a 50:50 chance - if I try to play an old game when there's a new game in the similar genre with similar features, the old one gets boring too quickly no matter how hard I try to "revisit" it.

I rarely play back an old game for the sake of... recreating that "first-time" feeling. :sigh:

Newer games, maybe X3: Reunion but the kind of scripts I have right now, the universe is shooting itself to pieces right in the middle of the story mode and it sucks to lose a battleship worth millions with 60 guns and over 1000 missiles in 10 seconds...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 07:37:36 am
There's insectlike and there's 13 (count 'em) Vaygr battlecruisers vs my 1, dreadnaught, and a DD. And all 13 of them are together so there's really nothing to be done about tactics, you'd just have to hit them with a sledgehammer that's totally impossible due to the game's logistics cap.
If its the mission i recall it is, I had a pair of BCs, lots of bombers and strike craft. I took them down pretty okay. Had some trouble getting the Vaygr off the dreadnaught though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on August 18, 2008, 07:49:11 am
Umm recently re-visited "Return to Castle Wolfenstein"......

also, last week I picked up a mint copy of X-wing Alliance (for £1.50! Bargain!  :yes:), however, as I never played it before, it's not really re-visiting.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 07:52:01 am
Umm recently re-visited "Return to Castle Wolfenstein"......
Achtung! The American Boot is the most powerful weapon you'll come across!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 18, 2008, 08:14:47 am
and the mothership was abandoned at balcora deep inside the galatic core where gravimetric sheer is at its best after the death of makaan yeah i know :P. however that ship is weak :ick:.

that trinity cannon is a deadly weapon if you happen to be in its way, look back through the replies to find the answer to the vaygr battleships weakness. 
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 18, 2008, 08:25:20 am
The weakness to Vaygr Battleships are, quite simply, bombers. Especially those elite bombers if you managed to save transport 4 (or was it 5?) during the second mission. Those 4 lance weapons on the Battleship aren't a very good fighter deterrent.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Admiral_Stones on August 18, 2008, 11:26:23 am
I love HW2, it's so epic, on it's own scale. You don't need a Battle of Endor for something to be epic.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Falcon on August 18, 2008, 01:48:50 pm
I still will play Death Rally time to time on DOSBox, that along with Age of Empires and considering playing either Master of Orion II or Descent II again.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Nuclear1 on August 18, 2008, 06:09:48 pm
From the Sierra Homeworld forums (parts in bold, especially; WARNING: TLDR):
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- In the First Time, the Bentusi found the first Great Hyperspace Core of Sajuuk, a relic of the ancient Progenitor race which allowed them to establish commerce (sometimes forcefully) throughout the galaxy. The Core's power allowed it to jump faster, farther, and bring lots of stuff with it, which made it pretty much the ultimate hyperdrive and made everybody else's hyperdrives look like crap by comparison. Anyone who gets their hands on one is clearly the Big Kid On The Block.

- Over time, the Bentusi decided to step back and take a more diplomatic role in galactic politics, making them a somewhat more effective version of the UN's peacekeeping arm that doubled as a race of highly advanced nomadic traders.

- Somewhere in the background, two upstart races- the Hiigarans (Kushan) and the Taiidan- were having a little war.

- The Hiigarans found the second Great Hyperspace Core (oooooo!) and used it to build a really spiffy battleship, which they used to kick the ever-loving crap outta the Taiidan.

- The Bentusi didn't like this, so they went in and kicked the ever-loving crap outta the Hiigarans when they wouldn't surrender the Core.

- Somewhere in here, someone belonging to kiith LiirHra is mentioned... and if you've read your HW and Cata lore, you know that this particular kiith didn't actually exist until 4000 years later. Yeah.

- The Taiidan then proceeded to come back and kick the ever-loving crap outta the Hiigarans even more, while the Bentusi got all weepy over what they'd done and disarmed their entire race. Great timing, huh?

- The Hiigarans got exiled and snuck their Core onto one of the evacuation ships.

- Supposedly, this Core was much later integrated into the Mothership during Homeworld (which isn't how it happened at all, if you've read the Homeworld manual). Oh yeah, and forget about the Guidestone, because it isn't even mentioned (despite being the reason why the Mothership was built in the first place).

- 115 years later, some Viking- errr, Vaygr warlord gets his greedy little mitts on the third Great Core, and proceeds to kick the ever-loving crap outta everybody.

- The Hiigarans don't take kindly to this, seeing as how they've only just begun to rebuild their little corner of the galaxy. They take their Core (ooooo!) out of mothballs and use it to kick the ever-loving crap outta the Vaygr even as they're winning the war. Along the way, they learn that Sajuuk (who is their version of the Almighty God, as we already knew) was real and built himself a really spiffy battleship, named after himself, that was designed to use all three Cores (OOOOOO!). The quest to kick the Vaygr's butts becomes a quest to pinch the really spiffy battleship.

- Somewhere in here, the Bentus, the last great starship of the Bentusi (mind you, we never find out what happened to the rest of the Bentusi, even though they clearly still had a major presence and influence as of Cata)- who are now a bunch of very wise interstellar refugees- gets the ever-loving crap kicked outta it by a bunch of robotic Progenitor ships that are pursuing the Hiigarans. How the Hiigarans escape is anybody's guess, since the Progenitor ships supposedly project an inhibitor field. The Hiigarans come back and pick up the pieces, and now they have two cores.


- The Hiigarans finally catch up to Makaan, kick the ever-lovingc rap outta him, take his core, reactivate the really spiffy battleship, and jump back to Hiigara just in time to Save The Day.

- After that, Karan (no, we don't know why she's still alive either) pretty much becomes a Goddess and ushers in a new age of truth, beauty, and peace. Cue fuzzy animals frolicking and cheery flute music. The end.

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On the bright side, the multiplayer is fun. The sides are better balanced against one another than Beast and Somtaaw were in Cata.

On the not-so-bright side, the game is less than a shadow of what we were promised when it was in early development. Epic story? Epic failure. Five races? Make that two. Megaliths that provide tactical advantages? Well, we got some big scenery... And oh, by the way, forget about selecting your own fleet colors and choosing when to jump to the next mission in SP, as well as formations, which were all much-loved features of both HW and Cata. And if that weren't enough, we also don't get to use most of the modular upgrades in SP either, so tactics are rather limited. Oh, and battlecruisers own everything unless there are bombers or lasvettes about, frigates are armored with paper, and nothing smaller than a carrier can hyperspace on its own (and nothing at all can hyperspace without an add-on).

The long and short of it is that we got corncobbed.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: phatosealpha on August 19, 2008, 12:13:41 am
They left out the bit where the Bentusi don't seem to actually need the core anyway, as they jump straight out of the galaxy in Cata.
But then, cata is really the outlier when it comes to Bentusi capability.  HW1 has a mission where you rescue the Bentusi, and they seem practically unarmed.
HW2 they just explode themselves.

Cata.....they're super duper death machines who produce the most deadly fighter in the entire galaxy, and who's ships carry more firepower then the death star.


It's a damn shame about HW2 though.  Lore aside, it's tactically much more limited the 1 and cata.  And due to the ridiculous extremes they took HW1/cata's scaling too, effective strategic play actually just got you royally screwed.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 19, 2008, 12:28:05 am
They left out the bit where the Bentusi don't seem to actually need the core anyway, as they jump straight out of the galaxy in Cata.
But then, cata is really the outlier when it comes to Bentusi capability.  HW1 has a mission where you rescue the Bentusi, and they seem practically unarmed.

They used a gate for the galaxy jump.

Also, I'd point out they were armed identically in the HW1 mission as they are in Cataclysm, if you pay close attention. They're just vastly outnumbered and have no Super Acolytes.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 19, 2008, 01:44:50 am
i think you forget makaan took over the tiidan and renamed it to the vaygr, they raided practically every civilized race to expand their fleets, the turanic raiders where almost wiped out as a result despite their misgivings and cunning. makaan found that the hiigarans had a hyperspace core and knew he had a better chance of getting it and almost succeeded trying to destroy the pride of hiigara, however he mis underestimated the strength of a few thousand refugees of several ships, the pride of hiigara, sobani frigates, nebaal's shipyard and its carrier.

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 19, 2008, 01:58:02 am
I'd also like to point out in HW1 the Bentus Tradeship actually has a trio of ion cannons.

After reading that review, nuclear, I find myself liking HW2 less. All those points are valid, especially the formations.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 19, 2008, 02:07:00 am
thats a typical view of the bentusi exchange ships, they actually have 6 ion ports i have seen it many time, if they are really threatened all 6 will be used simutainously. i said that about the formations in a previous post, did someone miss it?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 19, 2008, 02:36:08 am
No, they only have 3, and in Homeworld 1, you only ever see them firing three ion cannons.

Yea, I missed that post.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: asyikarea51 on August 19, 2008, 11:40:34 pm
Death Rally

I don't like playing with guns though... and just what is the boss car supposed to be :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MP-Ryan on August 20, 2008, 07:38:38 am
For what, all three or HW2? I played all three SP campaigns lots. I don't see whats so bad about it. Unless you don't like the "Hiigaran's are saviors of the universe" storyline.

You either played a different game from me, or your HW2 was somehow patched to prevent the Vaygr outnumbering insanity.

While the patch certainly lessened the insanity on a few missions (4, 12), the biggest trick to kicking the crap out of the Vaygr in SP is to continuously attack.  Some people hit upwards of 10 BCs in mission 12 - I hit only 6.  Even in the destroy Maakan mission, where he starts with the 13 it's easily beatable - interceptors and gunships onto the enemy resources as they move away from Maakan, and then pound the chasing BCs into oblivion with nothing but bombers.  Set the rally point on top of the BCs and target the engines first.  For good measure, scrap your own BCs and start sending in marine frigates to capture the enemy ones, while using the bombers to take out missile batteries.

The mission with the 13 BCs from the beginning was one of the easiest in the whole game.

balcora gate was the one that posed a challenge for me until I realized I could ignore the massive fleet surrounding the shipyard and simply sneak my Vagyr BC with cloak and my destroyers underneath and then up and blow the shipyard to hell to end the mission.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 20, 2008, 09:09:28 pm
I had two Dreadnaughts near the end. :D I Marine Frigate swarmed Makaan's Dreadnaught.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Excalibur on August 20, 2008, 09:36:13 pm
AoE I is very easy for multiplayer, which is why I used to like it so much.

I played Jazz Jackrabbit I once to recreate the feeling, and found out that I had forgetten about or changed some of the levels in my head...

And I also played the DOS version of Mario. But it got boring in 2 days.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 20, 2008, 10:14:09 pm
For those of you who were interested in SS2's co-op earlier, I tried it for a while with two other people but we gave up after a hour. I don't think this game lends itself well to co-op play. There isn't really enough equipment for everyone and one of us had no wrench for quite some time (the only useful weapon at that stage of the game). It's easy to die, and although dead players respawn, they get separated and a fair amount of time is wasted in just trying to get everyone together again, even with voice chat. I generally found myself too busy coordinating everyone's positions to have time to read the PDA messages and soak up the story. If anyone else wants to try it though, I would be up for it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 20, 2008, 11:13:54 pm
I'm still up for it, provided weapon degradation is turned off.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 02:09:28 am
thats the beauty of the game, your weapon jams somewhere in the big worm and you cant find another means you must use the worm launcher, emp rifle or prism launcher :D.

i would be interested in the game but my connect is poor i could probably complete that game with my eyes closed and if i remember these door codes correctly after 8 years away from the game... oppps i think i just said too much :lol:.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 21, 2008, 07:19:18 am
*snip*
Makes it sound almost like real combat, although I doubt you'd enter real combat with a wrench. :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 21, 2008, 09:22:47 am
Anyone here has Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition?

I was playing Little Fighter 2 just now while letting BitTorrent run. If you choose Rudolf in VS Mode, transform into an enemy character and Multiply. Try cloning an army of Woodys, for instance. :drevil:

Who plays Tyrian 2000 here? I've never gotten the Banana Blast or Banana Bomb in Story Mode before. However, it seems that you have a 1 in 6 chance of getting those, along with the SuperCarrot, every time you finish Story Mode.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 21, 2008, 10:39:07 am
I'm still up for it, provided weapon degradation is turned off.

I didn't know there was a way to disable that. I can live with that though, even if it does occur too fast.

The main thing I don't like is the enemy respawning, which makes some parts of the game a lot more tedious and repetitive than they should be. There is supposed to be a cfg setting to disable it but it apparently doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 11:29:12 am
ive played all duke nukem versions. the little words he say can be funny at times, however i love to kill with the minigun that has 3 chambers!.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 21, 2008, 11:37:26 am
I prefer the Devastator. Pity it eats through ammo as if it's going out of fashion.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 11:54:11 am
i played eradicator once, very strange game, didnt have a clue it was like rise of the triads, same their also.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on August 21, 2008, 11:56:20 am
I'm currently playing through a little gem from a few years back called Total Overdose on GameTap.  Round up just about every Mexican gunfighting movie cliche you can think of, add in large amounts of exploding cars/scenery, sprinkle with liberal amounts of weapons and ammo, add a dash of slo-mo sideways-leaping gunfire, and stir well.  Intensely, unapologetically fun.  I'm also working on Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, though so far it isn't quite as amusing as the original.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 21, 2008, 11:59:27 am
I'm also working on Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, though so far it isn't quite as amusing as the original.
True that. It did have good elements and improvements, but the level design was sadistic at a couple of points. And the whole guerrilla warfare plot seemed totally out of place after the information warfare stuff in the original. Chaos Theory was good. Come to think of it, I might as well replay it again.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 12:03:12 pm
lol i never made it passed the mission where you had to break into the bank to steal some hard disks for evidence, the closest i came to completing the mission was a room with many lasers that where activated. i still have chaos theory, the only splinter cell game i have.

i thought about the other splinter cell games however from the conclusion of chaos theory im too much of a brute for sneakiness. meaning i like going in guns blazing killing everything before they shoot at me, where-as sneaking around staying in the shadows stabbing guards in the back is not really my routine, however i am very capable of it. its not really like master thief garret from thief deadly shadows or metal age, i thought it would be to be honest :rolleyes:.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 21, 2008, 12:58:32 pm
Chaos Theory is an outstanding game, both in terms of the gameplay as well as the story and presentation. It also has an excellent dedicated co-op campaign that is almost as long as the main singleplayer one.

Many people didn't like Pandora Tomorrow, but I didn't think it was bad at all. It wasn't as good as the original but the plot was still generally realistic and there were some cool missions, like the train one. Double Agent, on the other hand, should be avoided like the plague, at least on the PC.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 21, 2008, 01:03:02 pm
I'm still up for it, provided weapon degradation is turned off.

I didn't know there was a way to disable that. I can live with that though, even if it does occur too fast.

Quote from: readmep.wri
The Configuration File
Create a notepad document called "user.cfg".  All the configuration variables listed in the readme should be added to the user.cfg (unless otherwise noted) exactly as written, each on a line of its own. 

Note: Because of the way the user.bnd file generated by the game is formatted, you may encounter problems if you edit this file using Windows Notepad. If you save this file from Notepad, you will have to re-open it and manually add new line feeds between each line. An easier method is to use the DOS Edit program (or other similar text editor programs). DOS Edit can be started from a MS-DOS prompt or by using the Run command from your Windows start menu.

[...]

Roger Wilco
If you have Roger Wilco installed on your computer, and you want it to automatically start up when the game starts, use the configuration variable:
net_voice
This enables voice chat in a multiplayer game.  (You can also manually start Roger Wilco before starting the game.)

[...]

The following unsupported configuration variables have been added to the single player game:

Monster Spawning
If you've killed everything in a given area, and you wait around long enough, you'll notice that more monsters are spawned to keep you busy.  To minimize respawning, use the configuration variable:
no_spawn

System Shock 2's ecologies look at how many monsters are in a given area.  If a defined minimum number of monsters are present, there is a chance that a new monster will spawn.  The variable:
lower_spawn_min <n>
reduces the defined minimum monster count on all ecologies by <n>.
raise_spawn_rand <n>
lowers the chance of a monster randomly spawning by changing the random chance from 1/i to 1/(i+<n>).

Gun degradation
The config variable:
gun_degrade_rate <n>
is a multiplier for the rate at which your weapons degrade.  For example, to completely eliminate weapon degradation & breakage, set the value to 0.  To tone it down, set it somewhere between 1 and 0.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 01:13:09 pm
*little cheats* mumble to self :rolleyes:..

i wonder if system shock 2 ever got a graphics upgrade like freespace did? surely someone must of modded the polygons and changed around some of the texture files from 128 to 512 at least!.

as for monster respawn if you feel up to it of killing a rumbler, bring up the console i think its shift + : (unsure, not including '+') and type in 'summon_obj rumbler' im not sure if their is something else that is needed, the same with a laser_turret and hack it when it spawns :D, place in an area where you know you will encounter enemies. i never did because the game is so easy.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 21, 2008, 01:19:18 pm
i wonder if system shock 2 ever got a graphics upgrade like freespace did? surely someone must of modded the polygons and changed around some of the texture files from 128 to 512 at least!.

http://shtup.home.att.net/

http://www.moddb.com/mods/system-shock-rebirthhigh-poly-pack

http://www.strangebedfellows.de/index.php/topic,25.0.html (bug/gameplay fixes)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 21, 2008, 01:37:48 pm
It's a worth a try, although the respawning thing they describe doesn't work. I used both no_spawn and also made the probability of spawning very small, but it seemed to have no effect on anything either way.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 21, 2008, 01:43:18 pm
i guess they missed one bug on ss2, when on recreation near the morgue and going past the kitchen and what looks like a briefing room, their is a small garden and a huge window looking into space. you actually move as far as you can towards the wall where that window is, your head will go through the glass :P.

as for the other links, one mod at ddb is abandoned clearly and the other is still in the works. no deal unfortunately.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 21, 2008, 02:48:41 pm
Maybe the spawn rates only work in single-player mode, or maybe everyone has to have the same rates set in their configuration files. :/

I added your ICQ, by the way.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 21, 2008, 05:07:24 pm
Well, I haven't gotten it to work in singleplayer either. I tested it out briefly at one point.

If you're referring to my ICQ, I haven't used that in at least five years. No idea if it still works. I generally use Skype or Google Talk to chat during games, but only leave them open if something has been arranged in advance.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MP-Ryan on August 21, 2008, 07:43:55 pm
Well, I haven't gotten it to work in singleplayer either. I tested it out briefly at one point.

If you're referring to my ICQ, I haven't used that in at least five years. No idea if it still works. I generally use Skype or Google Talk to chat during games, but only leave them open if something has been arranged in advance.

No_spawn doesn't work entirely.  You're actually better to use the other respawn command that decreases the chances of a respawn - that you can set low enough that you rarely have anything regenerate in an old area... except deck 3 for some reason; that one seems to constantly spawn midwives and shotgun-hybrids.  It's quite odd.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MP-Ryan on August 21, 2008, 07:51:28 pm
Chaos Theory is an outstanding game, both in terms of the gameplay as well as the story and presentation. It also has an excellent dedicated co-op campaign that is almost as long as the main singleplayer one.

Many people didn't like Pandora Tomorrow, but I didn't think it was bad at all. It wasn't as good as the original but the plot was still generally realistic and there were some cool missions, like the train one. Double Agent, on the other hand, should be avoided like the plague, at least on the PC.

Chaos Theory is the best in the series - it's too bad Double Agent took a step backwards.  It wasn't awful, but certainly it moved away from the model and Chaos Theory set the bar pretty high.  Worst things about Double Agent were the fact that there were daylight stealth missions (daylight at the JBA HQ, sure... daylight during the stealth missions?  Give me a break) and the penalty to stealth rating for knocking people out.  Come on.

The thing that drives me crazy about all the SC games is how omniscient the AI is - you alert one guy but knock him out before he can yell or radio yet somehow everyone else in the level has suddenly also been alerted.  And that got worse with each successive game.

And I miss knocking people out with sticky cams to the back of the head - the original was great for that.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 21, 2008, 09:44:39 pm
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No_spawn doesn't work entirely.  You're actually better to use the other respawn command that decreases the chances of a respawn - that you can set low enough that you rarely have anything regenerate in an old area... except deck 3 for some reason; that one seems to constantly spawn midwives and shotgun-hybrids.  It's quite odd.

Have you actually gotten it to work at all? Maybe I did something wrong then. It's been a while since I tried it.

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Chaos Theory is the best in the series - it's too bad Double Agent took a step backwards.  It wasn't awful, but certainly it moved away from the model and Chaos Theory set the bar pretty high.  Worst things about Double Agent were the fact that there were daylight stealth missions (daylight at the JBA HQ, sure... daylight during the stealth missions?  Give me a break) and the penalty to stealth rating for knocking people out.  Come on.

The thing that drives me crazy about all the SC games is how omniscient the AI is - you alert one guy but knock him out before he can yell or radio yet somehow everyone else in the level has suddenly also been alerted.  And that got worse with each successive game.

And I miss knocking people out with sticky cams to the back of the head - the original was great for that.

Did you play Double Agent on the PC or one of the consoles? On the PC it was indeed an awful game, and it was not due to the game's content as much as its stability. You need to have tremendous patience to complete the game since it crashes and glitches all over the place. I must have encountered around 10 game-blocking glitches, each of which needed a different workaround, and there were also numerous random CTDs throughout the game. If it had been properly programmed and tested, it would have been a pretty good game although easily inferior to CT.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 21, 2008, 10:07:11 pm
If you're referring to my ICQ, I haven't used that in at least five years. No idea if it still works. I generally use Skype or Google Talk to chat during games, but only leave them open if something has been arranged in advance.

 :eek:

Well, just let me know (through e-mail, IM, etc.) when you'll be ready.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MP-Ryan on August 21, 2008, 11:34:22 pm
Have you actually gotten it to work at all? Maybe I did something wrong then. It's been a while since I tried it.

Yeah.  As I remember, it's just a simple plain text file.  It's been 2 or 3 years since I last played through the game, but it worked.  You should use it in conjuction with the config line that reduces monster spawning chances to an infinitesimal level though.

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Did you play Double Agent on the PC or one of the consoles? On the PC it was indeed an awful game, and it was not due to the game's content as much as its stability. You need to have tremendous patience to complete the game since it crashes and glitches all over the place. I must have encountered around 10 game-blocking glitches, each of which needed a different workaround, and there were also numerous random CTDs throughout the game. If it had been properly programmed and tested, it would have been a pretty good game although easily inferior to CT.

I played it on the PC less than 2 weeks ago.  With the patch, it wasn't atrocious.  I only ran into one game-blocking glitch - in the Mexico mission, the elevator doors stayed shut on some save-loads, and you couldn't open them.  There were a few collision detection problems with vents too (failure to crawl into them).  As for crashes - I didn't have any crashed until probably 2 levels from the end of the game - and all of them resulted from trying to quickload a savegame in which I had the Quick OPSAT displaying the satellite map.  If it was turned off, no crash.

But the menus and savegame ordering sucked horribly.

As it was I only paid $10 for it so I wasn't all that annoyed.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 22, 2008, 03:09:07 am
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I played it on the PC less than 2 weeks ago.  With the patch, it wasn't atrocious.  I only ran into one game-blocking glitch - in the Mexico mission, the elevator doors stayed shut on some save-loads, and you couldn't open them.  There were a few collision detection problems with vents too (failure to crawl into them).  As for crashes - I didn't have any crashed until probably 2 levels from the end of the game - and all of them resulted from trying to quickload a savegame in which I had the Quick OPSAT displaying the satellite map.  If it was turned off, no crash.

But the menus and savegame ordering sucked horribly.

As it was I only paid $10 for it so I wasn't all that annoyed.

You seem to have gotten very lucky. I ran into a lot more trouble than that and from looking over Ubisoft's forums back then, my experience was fairly typical. I played the game on 1.02 and as far as I know, that was the last patch released for it.

The major bugs included things like certain NPCs in the JBA base getting stuck somewhere and preventing the game from proceeding, and some save checkpoints in Kinshasa where the game instantly crashed upon entering them. I was only able to pass them by going into the game's ini files and binding a key to the Unreal engine's ghost command, so I could fly around them.

As for entering vents, you basically need run at top speed to perform this and many other actions in the game. This was obviously the result of a direct port from the 360's analog stick. :rolleyes:

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Well, just let me know (through e-mail, IM, etc.) when you'll be ready.

I'll send you a PM soon. I probably won't have time to play it for an extended period until early next month though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 22, 2008, 12:53:35 pm
Quote
Well, just let me know (through e-mail, IM, etc.) when you'll be ready.

I'll send you a PM soon. I probably won't have time to play it for an extended period until early next month though.

10-4.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 23, 2008, 02:32:31 am
i just played SOASE and to honest it gets repetitive when the ai keeps shifting colonies to different systems every time you strike one, another rises. the only way i can see around this problem is to keep a few ships on standby in case these colony ships head back through. it works alright, to be honest i thought this would be campaign based...

still by far the best space building game in my opinion is ig2 :P.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 23, 2008, 02:46:22 am
I was playing Raptor just now. Did you know that pressing (and holding) the Backspace key gives you Deathrays at the cost of all your credits?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 23, 2008, 06:09:24 am
I'm trying to get my Hostile Waters to work. I love the game, but it doesn't seem to work on Vista, not even XP. The words are all missing. Makes it so irritating to play.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 23, 2008, 07:24:25 am
Have you tried compatibility mode and DOSBox, if it's a DOS game?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 23, 2008, 10:54:25 am
No, it used to work on my old desktop, which was running XP as well. And yes, I've tried running in compatibility mode.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 23, 2008, 12:27:37 pm
I'm going through Ogre Battle 64 at the moment. It's one of those games that would be excellent if it were multiplayer, and lacked a story. Because, seriously, that story is awful.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on August 23, 2008, 01:57:42 pm
I'm trying to get my Hostile Waters to work. I love the game, but it doesn't seem to work on Vista, not even XP. The words are all missing. Makes it so irritating to play.

You Lose.

 :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 23, 2008, 03:08:55 pm
I was playing Raptor just now. Did you know that pressing (and holding) the Backspace key gives you Deathrays at the cost of all your credits?

Yeah, that's a well known cheat. You can press it repeatedly to get several deathrays and then sell them all for a lot of money. There is also a certain combination of buttons you can press in the mission screen that makes the enemies into cows and monkeys.

I have kept using my original pilot for this game and must have played through it at least 30 times over the years. I've racked up so much money that the last digit no longer fits in the display in the store, so I can only see the true amount of money during the game itself. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 23, 2008, 09:48:34 pm
Alternatively, CP, you can set your system clock to May 16 and play any level. That's supposed to be the birthday of Scott Host. You'll see some funny stuff. Besides the coconut-shooting monkeys, there's other stuff, such as artillery cows, laser-shooting metal manta rays, andI think there's a Star Trek reference on Outer Regions Wave 4. If you shoot that bugger, you get a raw freylium ore. ;)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 24, 2008, 12:02:33 am
I haven't seen that last one. Might be fun to try some time.

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 24, 2008, 03:05:38 am
raptor? call of the shadows? i haven't seen that game in years!.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 05:02:49 am
Well, there's a shareware Windows port at Mountain King Studios' website (http://www.mking.com/raptor/index.html). You don't need DOSBox to run it, but I suggest using the mouse.

I have every reason to believe that they renamed themselves from Cygnus Studios. :doubt:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 24, 2008, 05:08:21 am
i dont go for demos, i will see if i can find a full version somewhere.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 05:14:21 am
Big torrent. :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MP-Ryan on August 24, 2008, 05:38:13 am
as for monster respawn if you feel up to it of killing a rumbler, bring up the console i think its shift + : (unsure, not including '+') and type in 'summon_obj rumbler' im not sure if their is something else that is needed, the same with a laser_turret and hack it when it spawns :D, place in an area where you know you will encounter enemies. i never did because the game is so easy.

Sorry for dredging up a post 3 pages old, but I just saw this.

System Shock 2 was EASY?

I don't know if you were playing on Very Easy, had the monster respawns and weapons degradation off, or were just playing a different game but on it's medium setting SS2 is difficult, on hard its damn near impossible, and Impossible is quite simply telling the truth - at least, for a Psionics specialist.  Maybe starting as a marine makes it easier. I beat it on Hard - once (and only by reducing the rate of monster spawns and weapons degradation) - and tried it on Impossible.  I couldn't get off Deck 2.

SS2 is quite possibly the best game I've ever played, but it is without a doubt the most difficult as well.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on August 24, 2008, 08:40:10 am
hey, s ocarnia of time for virtual console any good? i finnaly got some GC controllers, and my parents are going to get me some wiipoints today
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 24, 2008, 08:57:08 am
hey! don't knock the game that is in my view, im just as intitled to my own corner as you are :P.

the only way you can kill your enemy is by study and adapting, find a weakness and exploit it however im not a hardcore ss2 player looking to try become an unlikely hero in impossible odds, if you want to do that, be my guest :lol: go ahead and die everytime!!.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 09:04:13 am
Old games...hmm...

I made this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BopLK1N3EpM) for a game that was originally released in 1998, but was given a few extra levels in 2007. Might be worth a look.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 24, 2008, 09:24:41 am
interesting.. however i have played my share of commander keen and god of thunder. graphics are similar to that of an old building game meant for kids, i can not remember its name.

speaking of old games, i have been looking around of ages trying to find this 3d version of chomper (pac man), it was created for dos however the graphics of the game was far above that of any dos game and even rivals that of todays games, it doesn't have your typical layout of what chomper is, like the square with some walls and truckload of pills with 4 big pills. this was a lot less tranditional from chomper games i have seen.

i will continue lookinging, its also worth saying that since i played it 4 months after i started looking around for it, total of 8 years has been spent looking around to no luck.

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 09:28:15 am
Does anyone here plays or owns Ikaruga and/or Radiant Silvergun? I don't have either, but they sure are fun to watch. :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 24, 2008, 10:33:42 am
Well, there's a shareware Windows port at Mountain King Studios' website (http://www.mking.com/raptor/index.html). You don't need DOSBox to run it, but I suggest using the mouse.

I have every reason to believe that they renamed themselves from Cygnus Studios. :doubt:

The music in the Windows version sounds off though, since it was originally designed to be used with the SB OPL synthesizers. The DOS version works flawlessly in Dosbox though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 24, 2008, 10:48:22 am
20 minutes into raptor i half completed half the 3 campaigns. sufficed to say its too short per wave. besides it gets repetitive its very much like galactix.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on August 24, 2008, 02:07:37 pm
hostile water worked for me in xp
try the 1.03 patch
http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dlp.cgi?lang=eng&sys=pc&file=hostile103e.zip&ref=ps
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 09:01:52 pm
20 minutes into raptor i half completed half the 3 campaigns. sufficed to say its too short per wave. besides it gets repetitive its very much like galactix.

Have you done all of them on Elite? I think I've done both the Bravo and Tango Sectors. :D

Waves 4 and 7 of Tango Sector are nightmares on Elite. :shaking:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 24, 2008, 09:36:02 pm
Those aren't too bad. The ones that I remember being particularly hard are Outer Regions 6 and 9 on elite. At one time, I used to play this game so much that I knew all the enemy waves by heart and could beat the game on elite without using any phase shields, although I wouldn't be able to do it now.

This game is very short though. I still go back to it occasionally and can complete it in less than two hours.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 24, 2008, 09:38:00 pm
hostile water worked for me in xp
try the 1.03 patch
http://dlh.net/cgi-bin/dlp.cgi?lang=eng&sys=pc&file=hostile103e.zip&ref=ps
I didn't know a patch existed. :lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 24, 2008, 09:49:45 pm
Those aren't too bad. The ones that I remember being particularly hard are Outer Regions 6 and 9 on elite. At one time, I used to play this game so much that I knew all the enemy waves by heart and could beat the game on elite without using any phase shields, although I wouldn't be able to do it now.

This game is very short though. I still go back to it occasionally and can complete it in less than two hours.

:eek:

I still need Phase Shields on the highest difficulty level. The furthest extent I've gone is to complete Wave 1 of Bravo Sector on Elite difficulty without taking any damage.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 01:42:23 am
the last time i went into combat in elite was wave 3 of bravo when i was conveniently kami'ed into by a random ship from one of the last waves before boss. i will endevour to try get higher.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on August 25, 2008, 06:45:55 am
Ive just started the mighty HardWar
(http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6402/hardwarri8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 07:05:55 am
hahaha, i still have that game!. one of my guilty pleasures to play every now and again :P.

additionally i have gotten passed wave 2 on tango (edit:typo) on elite, not a problem so far, my fighter hull has never passed below 50% so far.

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/153/rap1xn5.png)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on August 25, 2008, 07:07:17 am
/Davros salutes a true coneseuir of gaming goodness......
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 07:10:54 am
davros, swallow user?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 25, 2008, 07:13:37 am
I got my Hostile Waters working!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 25, 2008, 07:16:07 am
Replayin' Chaos Theory, as evidenced by the glitch I discovered and posted in the bug/glitch thread.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on August 25, 2008, 07:19:51 am
again, would it be worth it to buy super metroid and ocarnia of time for VC?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Flipside on August 25, 2008, 07:22:56 am
/me is downloading Dungeon Keeper Gold :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 25, 2008, 07:23:13 am
again, would it be worth it to buy super metroid and ocarnia of time for VC?

Not with emulators out there for free.
If you owned the originals then its all legal.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 07:24:59 am
unless it goes through d2d.
going to play warzone 2100 soon.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Flipside on August 25, 2008, 07:29:44 am
Try the enhanced source-code version, it's not bad, but it dumbs up the AI in skirmish mode, which is probably just as well, since the computer used to absolutely stomp all over me.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 07:31:57 am
i remember those random ai skirmishes into my base. sometimes it got to the point where i would chase after then with flame tanks :ick:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 25, 2008, 07:32:52 am
Congratulations, Stormkeeper. Good work, AI. :D

I've stopped at Wave 2 of Outer Regions on Elite difficulty because I'm using fred2. I'll continue from there when I have the time to do so. ;)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 08:00:39 am
corrected bravo > tango typo.

il think about the beta 4 of wz2100 soon, right now it is no where near the sort of pace fso scp is at this time.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 25, 2008, 08:09:12 am
I must say I'm quite impressed, Al. You use only one Phase Shield. When I did Wave 2, I used up 2 Phase Shields.

What weapons do you use in Tango Sector? Laser Turret + AGM?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 08:15:27 am
micro missile launcher, plasma launcher and laser point defense along with the normal cal bullets.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 25, 2008, 08:43:27 am
going to play warzone 2100 soon.
There's a Warzone 2100 restoration project. Here's the link (http://wz2100.net/).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 25, 2008, 09:28:03 am
Attempting to figure out how to run Zone 66 on my computer, I don't have a 3.5 floppy drive...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 25, 2008, 10:03:47 am
Attempting to figure out how to run Zone 66 on my computer, I don't have a 3.5 floppy drive...

Big torrent. :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Admiral_Stones on August 25, 2008, 11:24:32 am
/Davros salutes a true coneseuir of gaming goodness......

You cochon americaine obviously have pas de culture at all!

It's écrivé connoisseur!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 25, 2008, 11:41:42 am
/Davros salutes a true coneseuir of gaming goodness......

You cochon americaine obviously have pas de culture at all!

It's écrivé connoisseur!

I have to do it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/GenoStar/deculture.png)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 12:51:35 pm
i played z66 and it must of been a very long time around at least 13 years ago at least it came out on a disc of 100 games that run on both dos and windows and it was a complete mix, corridor 7, zone 66, commander keen, adventure, Animal adventure, apples and oranges. mostly epic megagames and apogee related, dark blue disc.

zone 66 was one of the odd balls next to trolls where the objective was not really known, however on zone 66 1d sideways scroller only its not one way like flying tigers or galactix. the controls are wierd at first however you get used to them, i did manage to clear out most the enemy structures and the hundred or so enemy fighters, including that purple boomerang with the 4 thrusters and that blue triangle (triangle ship again!!). i suggest you go for the big green fighter later, however start off with the small jet fighter to chase the enemy fighters off, go land and change load out, if you can fly to the nearest landing pad closest to the next enemy structures, advisable instead of landing opposite end of the map from your objective otherwise you will run out of fuel.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 25, 2008, 01:10:25 pm
I had Zone 66 on a shareware games CD at some point, but I never got it to work. It used some unusual memory extender that didn't seem to work on the laptop I had back then.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 01:16:03 pm
haha stacks was the worst, if not configured properly the computer would completely crash and give some strange colored lines appear somewhere on the screen.

physical memory was one of the 2 that i cannot remember however if you dont have enough the game wouldnt even start, dos would make sure. what was the files you had to edit to get the stuff to work.. autoexec.bet and config.cfg i think.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mika on August 25, 2008, 04:19:57 pm
Speaking of Autoexec and Config, what was your tops with them?

I have a vague memory of 625 or 624 KBs of free base memory with the normal start (DOS 6.22).

Was it something like this?
DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS (there could have been a switch here to pass testing)
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE /NOEMS (and then you needed a switch to use some unused region before display driver memory addresses, can't remember the hex codes anymore)
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Can't recall stacks and that other related thing you could adjust.

In autoexec.bat I recall it was pretty much LOADHIGH mousedrivers and probably smartdrive, setting the soundcard and keyboard language. I feel so nerdy recalling this stuff 12 years after getting rid of DOS itself (actually it DID count with Win95)...

DOS4GW was one problematic memory handler at times.

Mika
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 25, 2008, 04:56:02 pm
Replaying the Marine story in AVP2, makes me smile every time :nod:

Also DOTT on Dosbox, (anyone who asks what DOTT is is WAY too young to ever talk to me again,)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 25, 2008, 07:46:01 pm
Replaying the Marine story in AVP2, makes me smile every time :nod:
I actually love the pulse rifle, for some reason. It just sounds right to me.

I've finally got my Hostile Waters running sweetly thanks to the patch Davros passed to me. Thanks lots, mate!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 25, 2008, 07:49:06 pm
I think there's a unilateral love for the M41A. Quite rightly so. Working prop guns :yes: still a chance i can find one through an old film industry contact.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 25, 2008, 10:27:06 pm
I completed the remainder of Outer Regions in Raptor last night on Elite difficulty! WHOO!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 26, 2008, 08:48:01 am
Attempting to figure out how to run Zone 66 on my computer, I don't have a 3.5 floppy drive...

Big torrent. :nervous:

It's only 8 or 9 3.5" floppies. :P I remember liking the music. :p

I also remember the objective was actually pretty clear too. :p And it had an anime-esque opening sequence with BOOBS! *nods*
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 26, 2008, 08:48:35 am
:lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 26, 2008, 11:46:21 am
outer regions wave 6, i cant seem to find a way past that mission, i got the most expensive item, which is far better then the laser defense as that has become useless in the outer regions.

(http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4927/rap2vq9.png)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 26, 2008, 11:54:14 am
Populus (spelling?) is an old game I liked.

Battlezone ah yes good ol days.

Diablo 1 going online first time awesome!

Warcraft 1 I remember the blobs across the screen running around was awesome!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 26, 2008, 12:04:38 pm
lololol, battlezone!, wireframe early graphics design, anicent, if anything chase was better  :lol: imo.

populous the beginning? easy to play, very amusing to see a tornado rip through a wooden structure and flying tribal people :rolleyes:.


how about lemmings 1 and 2? 3 was weird imo and 3d also.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on August 26, 2008, 12:34:36 pm
I think he's talking about the more recent Battlezone, from 1998.

The Lemmings series is awesome. I played Lemmings Chronicles (the third game) for the first time last summer and have been playing Lemmings Revolution, on and off during the last several months. Chronicles was certainly quite different but I liked it a lot, better than Lemmings 2 which had many great ideas but was way too easy, especially for someone coming from Lemmings 1 and ONML.

As for that Raptor wave, you should have a twin laser by that point. It's easy to rack up enough money if you play on elite. Those ground bosses are very easy to kill with it since it fires out of the sides of your ship, instead of the center. You can take out the beam turrets by just sitting next to them and they won't be able to hit you back.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 26, 2008, 12:45:56 pm
that was the weapon i was talking about, however the missile pod is also very effective in such a situation except on ground targets.

battlezone 2, i much better however imo i didn't like it, i guess i played that genre out of its skin after uprising 1 and 2.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 26, 2008, 01:56:16 pm
Yeah I was talking about the older Battlezone... I hate part 2 :(

Uprising wasn't tooo bad...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Admiral_Stones on August 26, 2008, 02:52:13 pm
I think there's a unilateral love for the M41A. Quite rightly so. Working prop guns :yes: still a chance i can find one through an old film industry contact.

Bah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_550 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_550) is all I say.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 26, 2008, 02:54:10 pm
The Lemmings series is awesome. I played Lemmings Chronicles (the third game) for the first time last summer and have been playing Lemmings Revolution, on and off during the last several months. Chronicles was certainly quite different but I liked it a lot, better than Lemmings 2 which had many great ideas but was way too easy, especially for someone coming from Lemmings 1 and ONML.

I still have my ONML CD.

Those were the days.   :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 26, 2008, 02:55:33 pm
Red Alert 2.

I less than three Tanya....
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 26, 2008, 03:58:07 pm
the game was like tiberiun sun :P only its post war barbarians using octopuses and dolphins, and some sort of strange blimp with the red sickle and hammer crossed... someone got a pin or needle? ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Ghostavo on August 26, 2008, 04:18:49 pm
C&C: Red Alert 2?

Post war barbarians?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 27, 2008, 12:49:01 am
Sounds Yuri's Revenge.

Command and Conquer Red Alert 2's expansion. The barbarians sound like brutes to me. They punch tanks, yes?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 27, 2008, 02:18:20 am
i am not certain however you get enough yuri clones and towers together you got more then enough of a captured battalion of troops and tanks to use, talk about an unfair advantage over one side.

anyone used to play quiver? :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 27, 2008, 07:54:52 am
i am not certain however you get enough yuri clones and towers together you got more then enough of a captured battalion of troops and tanks to use, talk about an unfair advantage over one side.
Yea, but if psychic towers loose power, you lose control of the captured units. And you can just 'feed' masterminds grunts to make it kill itself. And snipers can deal with the Yuri clones. If you don't have snipers, Terror Drones and dogs will do just fine. IIRC, Brutes can't attack dogs and vice versa.

Re-installed Emperor: Battle for Dune. Bring on the Minotaurs! :D

=edit=
Anyone know how to stablise framerates on old games? Right now, my Emperor frame rate goes from 60 to 100 then jumps back down, and keeps going up and down.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on August 27, 2008, 04:44:00 pm
dosbox
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on August 27, 2008, 05:25:20 pm
dosbox

And if you don't want to learn how to configure it, D-FEND Reloaded.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 28, 2008, 07:26:21 am
pretty simple,
Code: [Select]
mount c d:\folder\folder
d:
game.exe

the speed of dosbox should of been automatically set so it can played without the insame frame rate speeds.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 28, 2008, 09:41:44 am
the speed of dosbox should of been automatically set so it can played without the insame frame rate speeds.

It usually works, but some games, like Stargunner, might encounter problems. Mind you, Stargunner is a VERY nice side-scrolling shooter. It's not as good as Raptor, but close enough. And no way can it beat Tyrian 2000.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 28, 2008, 08:59:01 pm
But Emperor is a 2001 game. Will it still work with dosbox?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 28, 2008, 10:07:55 pm
Is it a DOS game? If it is, try checking the games list at http://www.dosbox.com.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 29, 2008, 11:07:26 am
Its not. T'was built for XP, iirc.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 30, 2008, 07:06:16 am
Arrr...then don't use DOSBox. It only emulates DOS games and some DOS applications like ImpulseTracker. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on August 30, 2008, 01:09:28 pm
i am on planet leeds after meeting up with trent's adoptive father. im not sure how but playing freelancer is making me crave to play gta:sa again, probably the utter random stupidity factor. going around watching random thing go off and then causing choas like flipping cars over and somehow they explode after a few seconds which is highly dubious and rather odd :lol:. i will play it after i done freelancer.

current situation: after escaping from liberty > Mactan > wormhole > Planet leeds.
Series X "dagger" border world light fighter
Barrager MK 1 2x
Barrager MK 2 2x
Stunpulse Turret
Hornet Cruise distruptor
Seeker mine
Improved Countermeasure
Advanced Guardian Shield level 4
heavy thruster
10 nanobots
15 shield regenerators
$41,000 total money.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on September 01, 2008, 07:35:12 am
Just picked up "House of the Dead 2" and "The Thing", anyone played these? If so any hints/tips/recommendations etc.?

EDIT....Oh yeah I also picked up "Bet on Soldier" the other day! Anyone played that?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 01, 2008, 07:38:24 am
Downloading Fire Fight from HoTU!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 01, 2008, 08:53:20 am
So did I. I've just finished downloading it. Now, what do I do with it?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 01, 2008, 09:02:59 am
... Play it ?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 01, 2008, 09:06:12 am
... Play it ?


How?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 01, 2008, 09:12:35 am
Apparently the arj is a format 7zip can access; use it to unzip the files, the run the game. I can't seem to start it; i'm attributing that fact to vista.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 01, 2008, 09:37:15 am
Um, it seems that all the files can be opened by 7-Zip...

I've found this site (http://robyrt.coolserver.net/f_fight.html), as well as an e-mail account. I've no luck opening the application on Windows XP either, so I'm testing my luck with the e-mail account I found there...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 01, 2008, 11:07:03 am
Does anyone know where to dl the infamous "alltech.zip" from Warzone 2100, that basically unlocks the entire tech tree from the get go? I've been searching, and I just can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 02, 2008, 01:10:12 am
I think I've found a lead that might help me run Fire Fight. Hey, Stormkeeper, if you want to try running Fire Fight, try searching the Technical Help section of the HoTU forum for Fire Fight (http://www.the-underdogs.info/forum/search.php).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 02, 2008, 02:51:43 am
Nothing.... Kinda irritating.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 02, 2008, 02:59:31 am
Did you find this (http://www.the-underdogs.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=641304#641304)?

I think I've done it! I used WinRAR to unpack all the AR files at once. I ran into a problem with MPLAYER.EXE, but that's okay.

Next, I used PowerISO to create a CD Image, then mount the image using DAEMON Tools.

It seems that I made a mistake when creating the image, because all the core files were placed in an unneeded subfolder, causing autorun to fail, so I ran FFSTART manually, and I got in! :D

I'll make another CD Image and upload it to my Cloud.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 02, 2008, 04:41:25 am
warzone was once produced by sold out in the united kingdom, i am absoutly certain it had a patch and that alltech zip file your talking about stormkeeper.

Edit: all tech was on the disk as suspected...
please scan it as soon as you have it, i dont want to be responsible for a virus or spyware problem :).

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Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: protroll on September 02, 2008, 04:58:37 am
games I would like to revisit are:

C&C 1 or Red Alert
Primal clickfest fun,very imbalanced, no one uses allies in mp if memory serves me right, epic tank battle(literally there can be hundreds of tanks on screen), plus crystal-clear unit voices that were pretty rare in RTS games at that time. With 320x200 resolution in DOS, a mammoth takes up to 1/4 of the screen lol

Dungeon Keeper 1 or 2
Very innovative RTT or FPS combo, too bad it doesn't work very stably on 32bit windows, hopefully there will be a fan-made patch to rectify that problem.

System Shock 2 coop
It's not for faint-hearted like me in single player mode, but with buddies backing you up, suddenly the zombie stalkers becomes prey.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 02, 2008, 05:34:36 am
I've uploaded the Fire Fight image here (http://cid-78eece80a0658c61.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/FF.iso). It should work, because I've patched it to v1.2 and am using it to play Fire Fight.

While waiting for it to upload, I also played Terminal Velocity. Fun game, but repetitive. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on September 02, 2008, 05:40:51 am
Just picked up "House of the Dead 2" and "The Thing", anyone played these? If so any hints/tips/recommendations etc.?

EDIT....Oh yeah I also picked up "Bet on Soldier" the other day! Anyone played that?

the thing rocks but im getting white patches on screen with the latest nvidia drivers
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on September 02, 2008, 05:55:29 am
Just picked up "House of the Dead 2" and "The Thing", anyone played these? If so any hints/tips/recommendations etc.?

EDIT....Oh yeah I also picked up "Bet on Soldier" the other day! Anyone played that?

the thing rocks but im getting white patches on screen with the latest nvidia drivers

I installed it last night but it wouldn't load for some reason, just got the "Sold Out" loading screen then CTD!  :confused:

Gonna try it on my laptop tonight!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 02, 2008, 09:16:21 am
I finished cheating on Fire Fight. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 02, 2008, 10:19:19 am
I dusted off Operation Flashpoint and just had a look through my old download cds..  Man...............

I forgot how cool this is.

I HIGHLY reccommend Operation Firelord (http://www.opflashpoint.org/missions.php?v=29 ) Brilliant psychic trooper supersoldier stuff....

And i believe you can find the game for the bargain proce of £2 - £5 in pc world nowadays...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 02, 2008, 11:32:48 am
Yes! Thanks AE! It works like a charm. It was even playing music of the Fort Minor disc in the disc drive.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 02, 2008, 09:47:35 pm
Yes! Thanks AE! It works like a charm. It was even playing music of the Fort Minor disc in the disc drive.

:eek2:

Really? Perhaps mounting the image doesn't work wonders for the music then.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 03, 2008, 12:06:29 am
I posted a solution in the "Whatever happens in your life" thread.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on September 03, 2008, 09:55:23 am
C&C 1 or Red Alert
Primal clickfest fun,very imbalanced, no one uses allies in mp if memory serves me right, epic tank battle(literally there can be hundreds of tanks on screen), plus crystal-clear unit voices that were pretty rare in RTS games at that time. With 320x200 resolution in DOS, a mammoth takes up to 1/4 of the screen lol

C&C1 was pretty well balanced. The recon bike could have been nerfed a bit, but that was the only issue I remember. RA on the other hand had terrible unit and side balance, especially after the Aftermath expansion came out. People did use Allies, but mainly for doing light tank rushes since those were fast enough to avoid most kinds of enemy fire while moving.

I spent many years playing RA1 mainly because it was a great mod platform back then. In fact, I was just playing the game last night with my brother over a serial link, using my old Future Wars (http://cp.nukelol.com/FutureWars.zip) mod. It's somewhat unstable on modern computers but works fine on old ones.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 03, 2008, 09:59:43 am
Searching for Starseige, by Dynamix. It was the other mecha game I loved.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Ghostavo on September 03, 2008, 10:08:47 am
GTA 2 (http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/index.html) :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 03, 2008, 10:14:37 am
MOTHER OF-

Classic if there ever was one. I've never played it :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 03, 2008, 10:39:17 am
what starseige or gta 2?

i never heard of the former however i have played the latter, a lot of fun driving a bus off a bridge and letting it explode at the bottom crushing other cars and letting them explode :lol:, i also like find a small 4x4 square of water and driving my vehecle over the gap and getting acroos the otherside without falling in or actually getting a bus into that mall 4x4 water square, was funny :mad2:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 03, 2008, 12:35:53 pm
Starsiege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) was the next installment in the Earthsiege series. It differed from MechWarrior in that you had shields, and that you had to deal with energy drain instead of heat. You could still fight when low on energy, but it was more difficult, because your HUD would shut down. I got good at fighting hud-less because as a kid I stuck all the big guns on and had next to no energy most of the time.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 03, 2008, 12:52:10 pm
well, mechwarrior is not to my taste or "not my cup of tea".

i work under similar situations of desperation, in some games where i am very low on health and it somehow boosts my efficiency to counter the enemies firing at me however sometimes it does not work. i have also managed to win battles against enemies when i had next to no resources either got lucky or was genuine that i was better.

will be playing bf2 soon. i promised i would play warzone2100 however im not in the mood for it. 
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 03, 2008, 01:26:35 pm
Starsiege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starsiege) was the next installment in the Earthsiege series. It differed from MechWarrior in that you had shields, and that you had to deal with energy drain instead of heat. You could still fight when low on energy, but it was more difficult, because your HUD would shut down. I got good at fighting hud-less because as a kid I stuck all the big guns on and had next to no energy most of the time.

Little lord Petter was missing his leader. while hercy played in the red. down came the glitches and burned us in ditches as we slept after eating our dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voOJ__7Cqrg

I freakin love it I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I played this to death, if it was still activwe i'd drop Freespace in an instant, sad but true ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 03, 2008, 05:16:30 pm
I'm curious how the follow-on project for Starsiege is going, but I lost the link...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 03, 2008, 05:21:11 pm
Google starsiege 2845, should come right up :yes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on September 03, 2008, 05:59:47 pm
Starsiege was cool, but Earthsiege 2 rocked my socks. :cool:
I loved how all your HERCs had to be built from salvage and the Razor was a blast too.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 03, 2008, 07:59:12 pm
I'm curious how the follow-on project for Starsiege is going, but I lost the link...
Its dead (http://www.clancorenetwork.com/forums/showthread.php?p=257521). Dang.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 04, 2008, 02:22:54 am
I managed to crash Terminal Velocity on Stage 5-2. It seems that you can't take the tunnel to the right (the one with the S.A.D.).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 04, 2008, 02:29:45 am
i have played terminal velocity before, however i can not remember specific missions. i might need to play it again to get an idea of what i forgot.

i am gonna play system shock 2 after bf2, i expect to get to level hydroponics after maybe 1 or 2 days and the rest within the same time period afterwards. the game is good, the only problem i had with the game was, was the Rickenbacker, where a rather large section of hull was vented into space and you had to jump to another extendable walkway over that open hull breach without falling into it. i had to replay that mission a few times.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 04, 2008, 03:03:30 am
I remember a mission ina giant ship/freighter/dunno what class...

At the end of it you flew out in real time and could drift back while looking at the hugwe git. All in-game-engine..

Pretty impressive for a game which is older than Freespace 1.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 04, 2008, 05:38:37 am
I just finished Fire Fight, fair and square, found all the secrets too. I can't seem to find any copies of Starsiege anywhere anymore... and my CD is damaged. Guess i'll have to torrent it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 04, 2008, 08:18:26 am
I just finished Fire Fight, fair and square, found all the secrets too. I can't seem to find any copies of Starsiege anywhere anymore... and my CD is damaged. Guess i'll have to torrent it.

Congratulations on that. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 05, 2008, 06:15:05 am
i can not find tachyon of the fringe anywhere, my friends in europe are out of contact probably on holiday or other stuff. i want to find out what the game is all about, i wonder... if someone can burn an iso image and upload it so i can download and play it.. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 10, 2008, 07:25:04 am
So I ... uh ... acquired Starsiege, but it doesn't run properly on Vista. Anybody knows a way to make Win98-era programs run on Vista?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 10, 2008, 08:50:14 am
Try Win 95 era compatibility.........If not, google is your friend for life :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 10, 2008, 03:30:11 pm
I managed to crash Terminal Velocity on Stage 5-2. It seems that you can't take the tunnel to the right (the one with the S.A.D.).

I still have that installed, and I'm very glad the music files are in a format winamp can read (they're .mods IIRC) :P
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 10, 2008, 10:24:35 pm
Try Win 95 era compatibility.........If not, google is your friend for life :D
Doesn't work at all, apparently. One of the suggestions I got was to uninstall vista, install linux and use WINE.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 10, 2008, 11:59:30 pm
I still have that installed, and I'm very glad the music files are in a format winamp can read (they're .mods IIRC) :P

The music files are great. They work the same on both Winamp and XMPlay, and that is a good thing, because Winamp doesn't seem to detect track segments. If they did, I might still be using it today. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Admiral_Stones on September 11, 2008, 10:36:12 am
Try Win 95 era compatibility.........If not, google is your friend for life :D
Doesn't work at all, apparently. One of the suggestions I got was to uninstall vista, install linux and use WINE. install Mac OS X, get Boot Camp and install Windows XP on it.
:yes:

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on September 13, 2008, 06:18:04 pm
i can not find tachyon of the fringe anywhere, my friends in europe are out of contact probably on holiday or other stuff. i want to find out what the game is all about, i wonder... if someone can burn an iso image and upload it so i can download and play it.. :rolleyes:

I can locate the demo for you
http://downloads.gamezone.com/demosfiles/t2015.htm
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 13, 2008, 07:09:46 pm
Apparently the arj is a format 7zip can access; use it to unzip the files, the run the game. I can't seem to start it; i'm attributing that fact to vista.
   
           Yeah before there was this fancy .rar and .7z we only had zip and arj. Back in the good ole days.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 13, 2008, 10:20:11 pm
*waves an M-FAC around*

I got it to work. Now to squik some Imp Lice!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 14, 2008, 01:51:20 am
Played Tyrian 2000 again some hours ago and used the Nort Ship Z. I'll never get tired of killing everything on sight with the SDF Main Gun. :drevil:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Al Tarket on September 14, 2008, 05:51:06 am
i haven't been online the past few days, my monitor decided to explode on me in the middle of completling the mission to escape the Black Valkar gangs garage when it decided to die, it seems the refresh or degaussing program decided to destroy itself. im now using a small 14 in' crt monitor or shall i say a 13.7 in'

i am part way through kotor 1 however the only real problem i have with the game is its constant auto saving in non-important areas instead of saving just before an important event.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 14, 2008, 06:13:03 am
*snip*
My tip to you? Save often. The auto save feature saves during transition, and only if it hasn't auto saved in the past 15 minutes. When you're done playing the game, this site (http://knightsoftheoldrepublic.filefront.com/) holds many interesting mods that really spice up KotOR 1 and 2.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rand al Thor on September 23, 2008, 08:07:21 am
Gotta (partly) agree with Decker. The Earthsiege/Starsiege Universe is an amazingly cool one. Not sure how much is fan made but there's a cool archive on the Starsiege 2885 (?) site with the timeline. The orbital defense of earth would make a class Freespace campaign.

I was addicted to Earthsiege 2 back in the day. One of my first PC games. I was really disappointed with Starsiege though, which I also 'acquired' some time later. It just completely changed the gameplay dynamics. The HERCs to me felt really underpowered and unarmoured. But in fairness I guess they were trying hard to move away from the Mechwarrior type of combat and differentiate themselves. And while the plot and briefings were really cool and built up an amazing atmosphere I just didn't think it was relayed well in the mission. Alot of that would be technical limitations of the time but still, they were all pretty similar and usually very easy.

The Cybrid campaign was especially bad. Had to do, but I think it failed miserably to convincingly convey the overwhelming superiority of the Cybrids (at that moment in time with Terran forces divided) and come up with a reason for the challenging missions.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 23, 2008, 08:24:44 am
My main pain point was that if the Cybrids were so superior, why the hells would you drop a single GOAD to engage a Minotaur, 3 Talons and a Paladin? Not to mention having to hunt down the transports and what not.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on September 23, 2008, 09:35:05 am
Because that's all you need apparently.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 23, 2008, 10:06:33 am
... Point. That is all I need. And lots of skill. I never got past the first Talon the first time. But after playing the Human campaign many times, I got good enough to shoot off the Talon's foot.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on September 23, 2008, 05:36:11 pm
Played Tyrian 2000 again, and guess what? I got the Supercarrot, complete with Banana Blast guns! That's the only secret I've never unlocked until now. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 23, 2008, 08:31:43 pm
I succesfully shot down that irritating Banshee in the 3rd Human mission with blasters. Boo yah. Chew on that, Imp Lice!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: JinYoungSoo on October 14, 2008, 02:55:08 am
I still play StarCraft but that's not old for it being released in 1999 right? =P
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 14, 2008, 04:28:09 am
Nearly ten yesrs is old for a game......
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on October 14, 2008, 04:42:13 am
I still play StarCraft but that's not old for it being released in 1999 right? =P

:welcome:

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 14, 2008, 05:14:22 am
It's still old though, even with SCP Botox, not bad, not in any way. It did come out in 99 still :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 14, 2008, 07:47:48 am
Anyone here still plays text games?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on October 14, 2008, 07:56:32 am
Anyone here still plays text games?


What you mean....

"You are in a forest, an angry dwarf stands in front of you.

Exits are NESW"




NO!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 14, 2008, 08:01:27 am
Yep, I meant those. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 14, 2008, 09:45:03 am
I just dug out my B&W again. Anyone still play that?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 14, 2008, 09:23:50 pm
B&W?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 14, 2008, 10:03:00 pm
Black and White 2. I don't have the expansion tho.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: -Joshua- on October 15, 2008, 04:13:09 am
I've survived the Rasoning Cascade and all I got was this lousy HEV-suit.

Yep, I got myself Half-Life, in my terms, that is a pretty old game (I was born in 1993).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 15, 2008, 04:30:03 am
I played the Trial Version of Starlancer just now. Died first time, failed second time, completed the whole thing third time. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 15, 2008, 08:51:55 am
I've survived the Rasoning Cascade and all I got was this lousy HEV-suit.

Yep, I got myself Half-Life, in my terms, that is a pretty old game (I was born in 1993).
[nitpick]Its Resonance cascade not Rasoning![/nitpick]

Half Life Source is out, but I heard it sucks, and that you're better off waiting for the Black Mesa Project to finish.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: colecampbell666 on October 15, 2008, 02:11:56 pm
HLS doesn't suck, it's just HL1 on the Source Engine, no graphical improvements. SO unless HL1 sucks in your mind, HLS doesn't.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Turnsky on October 15, 2008, 07:35:23 pm
well, it wouldn't suck per se.. my guess it'd be like running Vanilla Descent: Freespace in either the Current SCP engine or the EVE engine, so much wasted potential there, given the generation of graphics capability that's out right now, and available on the source engine.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: -Joshua- on October 16, 2008, 04:12:58 am
Yeah, Half-Life: Source is like FS2_Open without the MediaVP's.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Odd Writings on October 17, 2008, 11:21:56 am
Day of the Viper. So -ing fun.

And Legend: Four crystals of Trazere. Wonder if anyone remember those. Ah yes, those were the days...playing around with hex editors and whatnot...

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rick James on October 17, 2008, 12:46:02 pm
I'm going waaay back. Commander Keen ftw.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 18, 2008, 05:01:29 am
I used to play that too. Goodbye, Galaxy! was a blast. :D

You do know that Dopefish can still kill you in God Mode, right?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Molybdenum on October 18, 2008, 05:26:26 am
Just finished re-playing System Shock 2 on Impossible. Only now I notice how much of the endings potential is wasted by just those 2 pitifully easy bosses and the Rickenbacker section which could be improved. That game could really use a large SCP modding community. All it has now is a texture and model update some FMs and a Secmod.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 18, 2008, 08:29:17 am
I finished wrecking my B&W2 system files. Now to see if my modifications worked ...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 19, 2008, 11:45:27 pm
I played Blackhawk Striker 2 yesterday. My hands were tingling after I completed all four missions.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on October 22, 2008, 03:50:53 am
quicker than typing (not the oldest games in the world)
remember to scroll right ;)

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9679/games2lt3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 22, 2008, 06:27:27 am
.. Unholy mother of god. That's alot of games.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on October 22, 2008, 08:12:25 am
I have that amount of games,probably more and many are older! They're just not all installed at once as I have low harddrive space I'm still collecting new ones all the time. (Well, new to me. Car boot sales are your friend! :yes: )
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on October 22, 2008, 09:48:42 am
I have that amount, or more, but they aren't all in one folder like that. Kind of chaotic, really.

:EDIT:

Didn't notice that that picture scrolled. 124 games.

I still have more. ;)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 22, 2008, 09:55:18 am
Btw, Davros. Where'd you get that desktop of yours?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: tinfoil on October 22, 2008, 10:31:01 am
and what Operating System are you running?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 22, 2008, 10:44:53 am
and what Operating System are you running?
I have a suspicion he is using XP, but using a program called Windows Blinds.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: tinfoil on October 22, 2008, 10:49:24 am
Hmmm... I like
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 22, 2008, 07:11:01 pm
I played through the Doom Collection about half a year ago, Doom 1 Doom 2 and some fan-made Doom 2 campaigns.
I also have the Ultima Collection on CD, haven't played it in about 2 years but last I was working my way through all of 'em and almost finished Ultima 5 before I stopped playing for soem reason. Maybe I'll pick it up again sometime. Those things are almost text games haha.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 22, 2008, 08:08:13 pm
By the way davros, how does Dark Messiah of Might and Magic play? People keep telling me it sucks, but I figured since you played it before you ought to know better.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 23, 2008, 12:56:02 am
Nothing worth looking there except Descent 3, FreeSpace 2 and Freelancer. ;)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on October 23, 2008, 03:37:49 am
you kidding right? :eek2:

the wing commanders (and provateers), epic, inferno, ares rising, renegade: battle for jacob's star, forced alliance: the glarious mandate, halcyon sun, DRIFT: when worlds collide, deepspace: operation copernicus, terminal velocity, fury3 (and F-zone), hellbender, star rangers, star crusader, sinistar unleashed, the elites, homeplanet gold  :D, the xwing series, the independence wars, mantis XF5700 experimental fighter, etc... (only a few I can think of: there's lots more).

There be space sims in them e-shops, lods of space sims, me says... ;7

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on October 23, 2008, 04:01:08 am
I have that amount, or more, but they aren't all in one folder like that. Kind of chaotic, really.

:EDIT:

Didn't notice that that picture scrolled. 124 games.

I still have more. ;)

Count again Its actually 220 games

I have about 1200 to 1500 games been collecting them since the dos days - Do you still have more :D

By the way davros, how does Dark Messiah of Might and Magic play? People keep telling me it sucks, but I figured since you played it before you ought to know better.

its a good game but its a bit buggy and needs a hell of a pc to play it

as to my desktop its a patched uxtheme.dll + pipeline skin for xp
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=140707
or use stylexp but its not free
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: BloodEagle on October 23, 2008, 08:19:29 am
I have that amount, or more, but they aren't all in one folder like that. Kind of chaotic, really.

:EDIT:

Didn't notice that that picture scrolled. 124 games.

I still have more. ;)

Count again Its actually 220 games

I have about 1200 to 1500 games been collecting them since the dos days - Do you still have more :D

Huh. Must have miscounted the first row. x.x

I have about 691 (not counting mods, though counting expansions) installed / ready to play at the moment. That doesn't include console games (which I won't count twice, *wink* *wink*) and a few of the uninstalled PC games that I own.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Flipside on October 23, 2008, 11:51:43 am
By the way davros, how does Dark Messiah of Might and Magic play? People keep telling me it sucks, but I figured since you played it before you ought to know better.

I have that, it's pretty, but not much fun as a game, there's no freedom about the game whatsoever, you just seem to perform one task after another as dictated to you, run here, jump there, sneak here, shoot this etc etc ad infinitum.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 23, 2008, 12:13:22 pm
I'm considering getting Heroes 5 Gold for about 25 SG$, and Prince of Persia: Two Thrones for same price. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on October 23, 2008, 01:20:06 pm
Two Thrones is a big improvement over Warrior Within (though what wouldn't be), as it returns strongly to the witty dialogue and general mood of Sands of Time.  It's a bit shorter, perhaps, but you'd be getting your money's worth for $25.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on October 23, 2008, 03:24:20 pm
As far as old games go, I replayed Descent 3 and its expansion a few weeks ago. In terms of sheer fun factor, that game beats almost any singleplayer FPS I have played recently (maybe only rivalled by UT3 with the Galtanor Invasion mod). The 6DOF combat mechanics along with the huge variety of levels and enemies still sets this game apart for me. It does have some annoying stability glitches on modern computers though.

Now I'm playing Lemmings 3D in Dosbox, which is the only PC Lemmings game I have not played before. The gameplay is quite different from the original but it's still very well designed. However, the camera is clumsy and hard to control, and the very low resolution means that it's sometimes hard to see things without getting close to them.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 23, 2008, 08:19:34 pm
I own a copy of Descent 3 and its expansion too. :D

Hey, CP, if you want to, try searching for Pyromania. It's quite fun, especially on multiplayer, since you can choose up to seven ships for play.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on October 23, 2008, 11:20:25 pm
Hellbender was a blast.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 23, 2008, 11:45:25 pm
Hellbender was a blast.
:yes:

Used to be one of my favorite games ... not that I could get very far ...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on October 23, 2008, 11:59:34 pm
It was pretty intricate.

Oddly, the multiplayer was a lot of fun, especially when you learned how to cloak. I played a lot with my brother.

Plus, the cutscenes between missions were epic!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on October 24, 2008, 12:41:37 am
I own a copy of Descent 3 and its expansion too. :D

Hey, CP, if you want to, try searching for Pyromania. It's quite fun, especially on multiplayer, since you can choose up to seven ships for play.

Yes, I know about Pyromania. Lots of good ideas there.

Do you know of any good fanmade singleplayer campaigns for this game? I have not been able to find any, which is strange since Descent 2 had tons of them. There are a few decent standalone levels out there, but that's about it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on October 24, 2008, 01:39:35 am
The D3 modding scene never really did all that much with singleplayer beyond the odd stand-alone mission, unfortunately.  The WindMine series of levels is rather decent, and Hunter just announced a spin-off singleplayer campaign to his Hyperspace series of levels that seems to hold a lot of promise.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 24, 2008, 09:30:08 am
Ah crap, Mongoose, you beat me to it. :p

But yeah, WindMine is pretty good, although it's ridiculously hard. Reactor Gamma is also quite a good singleplayer level. I tried it twice, with cheats the first time and without cheats the second, and I have to say that it is one of the best singleplayer missions out there. I reviewed it on PlanetDescent (PD) and praised its design and music. I even compiled the soundtrack so that I could hear it on my portable player and MacBook.

There's a ton of stuff at PD, including the incomplete soundtrack for D3. However, getting the Game Audio Player (GAP) will allow you to play the game music directly off the mission files and even convert them from OSF to WAV, which I think is much better in some cases. GAP is available through FilePlanet, but you can also try Googling it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on October 24, 2008, 10:55:11 am
I've played Reactor Gamma. It's quite well designed, but at the same time the symmetric layout means that some parts become repetitive and the objectives are fairly simple. I would like to see something like level 3 of Mercenary, which was a massive level with numerous objectives and many distinct areas.

The only other one I have played is the D3 version of Centroid Base. I will need to try out Windmine, which I hadn't heard of before.

I have all those soundtrack files and know about GAP. I used that program to convert the few missing ones and compiled them into single pieces some years ago.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 24, 2008, 05:03:21 pm
Wing commander 3 and 4 then the monkey island series. If you're a proper veteran you'll have tried these.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: MR_T3D on October 24, 2008, 07:27:32 pm
played this week: Super smash bros and pokeman srtadium on the N64!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 25, 2008, 04:01:14 am
I've played Reactor Gamma. It's quite well designed, but at the same time the symmetric layout means that some parts become repetitive and the objectives are fairly simple. I would like to see something like level 3 of Mercenary, which was a massive level with numerous objectives and many distinct areas.

The only other one I have played is the D3 version of Centroid Base. I will need to try out Windmine, which I hadn't heard of before.

I have all those soundtrack files and know about GAP. I used that program to convert the few missing ones and compiled them into single pieces some years ago.

Good to hear. :nod:

If you want something huge, check out all the WindMine levels. In some instances, even God Mode isn't invincible. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on October 25, 2008, 04:03:30 pm
played this week: Super smash bros and pokeman srtadium on the N64!

I was playing Buck Bumble just the other day....
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: tinfoil on October 25, 2008, 04:40:17 pm
Heh - I played the original Duke Nukem game yesterday. i won't be going out of my way to find a copy - that's for sure.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 26, 2008, 03:28:01 am
I have Duke Nukem 3D for the Mac and I'm currently at Episode 4.

Quote from: A tape in It's Impossible
This tape will self-destruct in one second!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on October 27, 2008, 07:54:41 am
Heh - I played the original Duke Nukem game yesterday. i won't be going out of my way to find a copy - that's for sure.

You mean the platform game?

Recently playing through GTA III, GTA-Vice City, Mafia and The Thing
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 27, 2008, 08:19:12 am
Herzog Zwei, Sonic 3 and Zero Wing.... :nod: :cool: :pimp:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on October 27, 2008, 08:20:31 am
has anyone managed to shoot down cats in zero wing? :lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 27, 2008, 08:36:26 am
I tend to play in bursts, leave it for a month then go back to it. I'm on level three i think,. :nervous:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 27, 2008, 10:24:46 am
Perimeter, as a 2003 game, ought to count. THe laser weapons are a bit underpowered tho, imo.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 28, 2008, 02:12:39 am
Uplink rules. I'm gonna try and find a *demo after work.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Turambar on October 28, 2008, 01:09:35 pm
goddammit, got the urge to play oblivion
*downloads gigabytes of mods again*

It refuses to run (clean install) on my computer :-(
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on October 28, 2008, 06:29:49 pm
I tend to play in bursts, leave it for a month then go back to it.

describes me with all games.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 29, 2008, 01:32:17 am
goddammit, got the urge to play oblivion
*downloads gigabytes of mods again*

It refuses to run (clean install) on my computer :-(
Me too. I miss firing arrows from long range, hitting their heads and watching them fall like flies. I was damn good at that. Master Archery helped too.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: achtung on October 29, 2008, 05:48:57 am
Duke Nukem 3D, Doom II, Quake II, SkiFree :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: watsisname on October 30, 2008, 01:04:18 am
Original Descent.  On insane.  :pimp:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on October 30, 2008, 01:32:14 am
Good luck with those Drillers. :p

Not exactly old-old, but I'm just finishing up a Derelict replay.  Almost forgot how much fun it is.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 30, 2008, 04:23:39 am
     So do people prefer homeworld 2 over homeworld 1? I finally finished 1, and am starting 2. But 2's been pissing me off in a few ways. It's like, I've barely got a fleet and I reach some arbitrary frakking build limit. And the ship's probably look better but the default zoom makes them all too small to see a damn thing anyway, which is fine because the ships die like nothing. Frigates go down in a few seconds. It's like wtf. But the build limit, damn, at the end of HW1 I had like 70 Ion Frigates stolen from that inhibitor mission, plus assorted other ships. Of course that's over the limit but I'm sure my frigate limit was a heck of a lot more than it was in HW2.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 30, 2008, 04:56:35 am
Homeworld 1 has better story and missions, but homeworld 2 has better graphics and ships.

Cataclysm just scares me.......
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 30, 2008, 08:03:42 am
Anyone here played Stargunner?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on October 30, 2008, 08:28:32 am
     So do people prefer homeworld 2 over homeworld 1? I finally finished 1, and am starting 2. But 2's been pissing me off in a few ways. It's like, I've barely got a fleet and I reach some arbitrary frakking build limit. And the ship's probably look better but the default zoom makes them all too small to see a damn thing anyway, which is fine because the ships die like nothing. Frigates go down in a few seconds. It's like wtf. But the build limit, damn, at the end of HW1 I had like 70 Ion Frigates stolen from that inhibitor mission, plus assorted other ships. Of course that's over the limit but I'm sure my frigate limit was a heck of a lot more than it was in HW2.

I agree, Homeworld 1 was way better.

And you're never attached to your ships in Homeworld 2. They're just slick, expendable military models that die in a few moments. In HW1, you scrounge and salvage for every single ship in your fleet, and they mean something to you -- especially since your fleet starts out so humble.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 30, 2008, 08:30:53 am
I agree, Homeworld 1 was way better.

And you're never attached to your ships in Homeworld 2. They're just slick, expendable military models that die in a few moments. In HW1, you scrounge and salvage for every single ship in your fleet, and they mean something to you -- especially since your fleet starts out so humble.
*nod nod*

I grew very attached to my fleet of hijacked destroyers.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 30, 2008, 09:02:55 am
Nope, multi-beamed things from the gardens of KAdesh win every time :p

They're so one-off. :cool:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on October 30, 2008, 09:13:28 am
I liked those guys, and the Turanic Raider ion array frigates, and -- in particular! -- the Kadeshi swarmers.

I never did figure out if the Turanic ion array frigates were better than regular ion cannon frigates, though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 30, 2008, 09:55:14 am
I liked those guys, and the Turanic Raider ion array frigates, and -- in particular! -- the Kadeshi swarmers.
I remember them. I remember swatting them out of the sky with two wings of multi gun corvetes.

I actually salvaged 4 of those guys, and a pair of advanced swarmers. Plus 4 fuel pods. :D

But I never sent them into battle.

I never did figure out if the Turanic ion array frigates were better than regular ion cannon frigates, though.
AFAIK, no. They're worse, with less armour. They do, however, look cooler.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on October 30, 2008, 10:26:42 am
As I said, one I revisited lately: Halcyon sun (this one is quite rare).

comissant yaruzelska is a blast :lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: watsisname on October 30, 2008, 03:33:22 pm
Good luck with those Drillers. :p

At least the drillers go down with a single homer.  Unless they're cloaked, which is a ****.  :shaking:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on October 30, 2008, 04:36:13 pm
I liked those guys, and the Turanic Raider ion array frigates, and -- in particular! -- the Kadeshi swarmers.
I remember them. I remember swatting them out of the sky with two wings of multi gun corvetes.

I actually salvaged 4 of those guys, and a pair of advanced swarmers. Plus 4 fuel pods. :D

But I never sent them into battle.

I never did figure out if the Turanic ion array frigates were better than regular ion cannon frigates, though.
AFAIK, no. They're worse, with less armour. They do, however, look cooler.

I would kami-salvage a few Tyranic and Kadesh units and keep them as "trophies". The fuel pods are useless BTW.

Ia gree Ion Array frigates are less effective. They appear to have a smaller FOV.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 30, 2008, 05:27:01 pm
Homeworld 1 has better story and missions, but homeworld 2 has better graphics and ships.

Cataclysm just scares me.......

        Cataclysm's price scares me. It's always fricken expensive on eBay.
        And what the hell is with amazon.ca? Often times I find books or games that are USED and yet at retail or more. For example, in keeping with this thread I wanted to buy AVP2, the only copy on amazon.ca is like 90 ****ing dollars canadian. What is that? Speaking of which, if anyone knows a good place to BUY older games let me know. Besides ebay that is. I wanted AVP2 Gold so I could get the expansion too but ebay doesn't have any of 'em.

       I  just bought and played through FarCry, that's an older game by today's standards. It was freaking awesome. I like being a sneaky bastard. Which reminds me, I have to buy the Thief games.


I agree, Homeworld 1 was way better.

And you're never attached to your ships in Homeworld 2. They're just slick, expendable military models that die in a few moments. In HW1, you scrounge and salvage for every single ship in your fleet, and they mean something to you -- especially since your fleet starts out so humble.

           Yeah that's the bigger difference I noticed. I mean, I'd keep tabs on my numbers of ships at the end of every mission. Every "Frigate lost" was a big pain for me. It was like NOOOOOOOO not my frigate. But Like I said, HW2 has prettier graphics, but if you can never admire the ships what's the difference? Just have to get into the mindset I guess.

            Incidentally I managed to capture 5 multibeam frigates, and 1 fuel pod. The fuel pod wasn't useless, I used it to draw off the alien derelict ships in the next mission for my massed bomber strike. Later, I discovered the retire button, and free RU was had by all. My multi beam frigates held up pretty well, though at the end of the final mission I only had 2 left.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 31, 2008, 04:44:04 am
Really? I managed to steal all of the Multibeams, ten in total, I think. I managed to keep them alive till the last mission, then used them to lay the smack down on the enemy Mothership.

I also did my best to keep my ships in HW1 alive, and in HW2 as well, although it seemed to be more out of habit, while in HW1, it was the sheer pain of losing any one of my little rag tag fleet.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 31, 2008, 05:00:10 am
Really? I managed to steal all of the Multibeams, ten in total, I think. I managed to keep them alive till the last mission, then used them to lay the smack down on the enemy Mothership.

I also did my best to keep my ships in HW1 alive, and in HW2 as well, although it seemed to be more out of habit, while in HW1, it was the sheer pain of losing any one of my little rag tag fleet.

         Well the five I had stayed with me until the final mission, then I lost a few in the two pronged attack (the one that happens before the rebels arrive to help out). Incidentally I wish I had realized sooner that the rebel punk was jetting off towards the enemy. I might've been able to join him in time before he got blasted to pieces.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on October 31, 2008, 10:43:23 am
Akalabeth: there's always CDaccess.com That's a very good address to find old games at a good price and they ship internationally (I made several good acquisitions once there).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rick James on October 31, 2008, 11:31:43 am
Original Descent.  On insane.  :pimp:

Ah, that takes me back. Getting out of the mining complex before the reactor detonated has always proved impossible for me after level three.

I like Descent 2 better, though. It's the best of the series, IMO. I found Descent 3 somewhat...nauseating. I don't know why.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 31, 2008, 10:48:34 pm
Akalabeth: there's always CDaccess.com That's a very good address to find old games at a good price and they ship internationally (I made several good acquisitions once there).

     Thanks starlord I'll check it out
 
     Speaking of old games, just picked up Thief Collection off ebay. Should be a gooder.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 01, 2008, 12:05:57 am
Played Bejeweled 2 yesterday and made it to Level 59 of Endless Mode. 221 levels remain.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 01, 2008, 10:11:57 pm
Prince of Persia, The Two Thrones is what I just laid my hands on. I love being able to jump around, but I think I should start trying to remember my combos, because only being able to slash is bad.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 01, 2008, 11:54:39 pm
Prince of Persia, The Two Thrones is what I just laid my hands on. I love being able to jump around, but I think I should start trying to remember my combos, because only being able to slash is bad.

      I picked up Sands of Time a while back from EB and tried to play it a few days ago but it doesn't like my videocard. So, that's three games on my shelf that are waiting for a proper video card before I can even play them. Oh well. One of these days.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 02, 2008, 12:54:39 am
Are video cards expensive where you live? And I heard SoT is getting a remake.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 02, 2008, 01:24:14 am
Not a remake...Ubisoft is making a brand-new Prince of Persia game that's unrelated to the Sands of Time trilogy storyline-wise.  It's supposed to have a really beautiful artistic style, from what I've heard.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 02, 2008, 01:35:23 am
Hmmm. S'long as it preserves the gameplay. I love Speed Kills. Really, absolutely love Speed Kills. And sneaking around. And wall running. And wall climbing.

... Oh hells. I ****ing love the game.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 02, 2008, 01:47:53 am
Are video cards expensive where you live? And I heard SoT is getting a remake.

      Probably not. I just haven't bothered to buy one. I'd need to get a power supply too because my 400 watts doesn't seem to handle the better cards or at the very least the decent cards. And dealing with all of those power cords doesnt seem like a fun time. Though I would like to play my copy of Painkiller, looks fun. I almost picked up portal for 10 bucks from future shop because yahtzee's always raving about it until I looked at the back and couldn't see any bad guys. Puzzles, that, combined with my general dislike for steam makes me not want to play Half Life 2 even though it was super cheap at london drugs. I mean, like there's that big rave about the gravity gun and how you can fun throwing people's bodies around or whatever. But I don't care about puzzles, or using some fancy gun to do stuff, I just want to kill things. Like I played the Half Life 2 demo, and before it crapped out to unplayable speed with my crap video card I had like no ammo and this gravity gun and LOTS and LOTS of convenient saw blades lying around to kill zombies. And I'm thinking "wow, it's a good thing this town is full of sharp objects, because with this gravity gun they sure come in handy". Pft.
     That's why Farcry was good. Made you think, and all you do is kill things without the "gee, how do I move this here and this here to pass this inconvenient room for of radioactive goo"

     Anyway rant over.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 02, 2008, 08:10:56 am
Dude, you should really play Portal. Really.

Also, after the first couple levels Half-Life 2 really is primarily killing things.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 02, 2008, 08:38:39 am
Portal's a great game, but it's too recent to be discussed about here. :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mobius on November 02, 2008, 08:46:57 am
Do you guys play Total Annihilation: Kingdoms? :)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 02, 2008, 08:57:09 am
Never heard of it. Sorry. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 02, 2008, 09:01:28 am
Have you at least heard of Total Annihilation?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 02, 2008, 12:21:28 pm
If I did, I can't remember. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 02, 2008, 12:40:47 pm
TA is supreme commanders grandad.
 
Long live ARM!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on November 02, 2008, 03:33:44 pm
I've been playing DOOM.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rick James on November 02, 2008, 11:38:29 pm
TA is supreme commanders grandad.
 
Long live ARM!

Ah, TA...Krogoth always made me wish I had my teeth punched out BEFORE I went up against it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 03, 2008, 06:41:10 am
Do you guys play Total Annihilation: Kingdoms? :)
Yep yep yep.

TA is supreme commanders grandad.
 
Long live ARM!
Peewees are wicked. I wouldn't dare fly though a Peewee infested territory. Its scary.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 03, 2008, 06:43:28 am
Big Berthas win my wars. 190 pee-wees = a patrol :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 03, 2008, 06:48:46 am
Big Berthas own. I liked how every unit that has a gun tries to shoot fly boys though. Even the artillery.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 03, 2008, 09:30:41 am
I have played a lot of TA co-op games in the last few months with my brother, using various TCs and AI mods. There is still one map on which the AI consistently owns us, even though we can win easily on most of the others. :p

The most impressive thing in the original game was probably the Vulcan, although it takes forever to get it set up and fully powered.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 03, 2008, 10:02:41 am
No, it's the annihilator energy weapon :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: StarSlayer on November 03, 2008, 10:11:51 am
TA is awesome, still one of my favorite RTS of all time.  I love my Brawler swarms, build enough of them and they start to sound like the energy version of a mini gun when they all fly up and start bobbing and weaving in front of targets.  Nothing but a consistent BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sound punctuated by exploding targets ;)  There are a lot of community built units available for download nowadays.  One of my favorites is the Able bombardment ship, it has two 4 barrel super long range hyper firing turrets.  They are very inaccurate area effect weapons when they come out the yards but will rack up insane kills once they gain the veterancy bonuses
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 03, 2008, 10:28:57 am
Check out the UTASP and Final Frontier mods. UTASP adds tons of new units and actually maxes out the overall 500 unit limit, while FF is set in space and based around spacecraft combat. There are also a couple of custom AIs available that are a lot tougher than the original one.

No, it's the annihilator energy weapon :p

The annihilator is nice for what it is, but is not in the same league at all. :p The Vulcan and Buzzsaw were basically added into Core Contingency as "game ending" items for long-lasting games that were petering out into stalemates.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 03, 2008, 10:33:40 am
Now the Buzz-saw i remember well :lol: Hovercraft though, not that much of a Fan. The extra tactics / commander strategy disc was nice. The one where each unit had a mission which focused on it. The Killer Cans one is awesome. I love swarms of em, also using transport planes with roaches and CTRL+D'ing them over enemy commanders was one of my favourite custom strategies ;7 :lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 03, 2008, 06:18:21 pm
I remember Vulcans. I remember that when my energy level starts dropping like mad, it means the Vulcan is firing.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 03, 2008, 07:55:09 pm
You need something like 18 fusion power plants to keep one of them running continuously.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 04, 2008, 01:49:46 am
They'd be my first "para-roach" target then :cool:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 04, 2008, 03:02:25 am
One goes, all go. Those things go up with a major bang.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 04, 2008, 05:13:43 am
TA stopic split? :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 04, 2008, 06:15:16 am
Its still an old game, so it counts...

I've been trying to get my Dark Reign to work, and its expansion too. I miss having global artillery pieces.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 04, 2008, 07:06:06 am
Nah i meant give TA it's own topic as it's much deserving.....
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Molybdenum on November 04, 2008, 08:41:09 am
TA was awesome. Too bad the vanilla multiplayer games usually ended with vamp/hawk spam the required more micro than strategy. Supreme Commander make the main difference that buildings were more durable and shield could cover your base thus forever nerfing TAs awesome artillery exchanges.

Evey day I wish it wasn't Starcraft but TA that got all the patches and became the universal RTS that everyone ripped off. It was a better game in so many spectrums.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 04, 2008, 09:43:29 am
Evey day I wish it wasn't Starcraft but TA that got all the patches and became the universal RTS that everyone ripped off. It was a better game in so many spectrums.
Especially scale wise. Though not story wise though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 04, 2008, 11:00:44 am
I loved TA's story.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 04, 2008, 11:34:46 pm
I loved TA's story.
There wasn't much of it. Or much that I noticed, anyhow.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Falcon on November 05, 2008, 11:39:09 pm
I'm currently replaying Death Rally and Quarantine. I always loved weaponry on cars and both are fun to play. Also playing Conquest of the New World sometimes when I'm bored.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 05, 2008, 11:51:26 pm
Death Rally's too fast-paced for me after I upgrade to the Shrieker. A good game, nonetheless.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 06, 2008, 06:39:28 am
I always loved weaponry on cars


Then you should play interstate 76, the TRUE gun/car combo :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 06, 2008, 12:56:12 pm
Or Twisted Metal 2, which still stands up as being thoroughly awesome.  And then the series got raped afterwards...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 09, 2008, 02:03:24 am
Started playing Raptor again. This time, I'm playing on Elite difficulty all the way through, using only what I gain (or as I put it, "standard equipment"). I've scraped through Bravo Sector and am now at Wave 6 of Tango Sector.

I would seriously like to see how anyone can survive Outer Regions with only the MG21C Reaver Twin Machine Guns...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 09, 2008, 04:15:52 am
Hah, raptor: that brings back memories...

What about tyrian? ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 09, 2008, 05:46:58 am
I played that too, but stopped after I uncovered every secret there is to know (excluding arcade special moves), and mind you, Tyrian 2000 has a lot of secrets. The biggest one, however, is that your ship actually stands a one-in-six chance to turn into the SuperCarrot on its own at the end of Episode 5, complete with the all-powerful Banana guns.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 09, 2008, 06:24:58 am
Actually, I always preferred the stalker ship than the super carrot. Couple this with a laser, a sound shock wave, and 2 zica superchargers (with of course max shield, weapon power, and generators) and you're untouchable. ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 09, 2008, 07:45:42 am
What Special Weapon do you use? Your ship set up is one of the two most powerful set-ups (the other being an all-Zica set-up with Sonic Wave as the rear gun), yes, but if you don't have the SDF Main Gun...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 09, 2008, 07:53:12 am
Double-post. :D

I just watched some guy fail the last wave of Outer Regions on Raptor on Rookie difficulty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdEwRRKekTk&feature=related). Reminds me of the problems I had when I first got to that level. That was five years ago. If I play that level now, on Elite difficulty, I can finish it if I lose five Phase Shields.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 09, 2008, 04:13:38 pm
*wishes he had heard of any of these games*

Just managed to track down a used copy of ICO for the PS2.  From the few minutes I've spent playing it, it seems like it really is very similar thematically to Shadow of the Colossus.  Should be quite the experience.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: IceFire on November 09, 2008, 04:19:58 pm
Played a game of classic StarCraft today on line....but it was really slow and very disappointing.  Its such an old game I would have expected better performance online given todays broadband capabilities.  Its weird.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on November 09, 2008, 04:32:55 pm
*wishes he had heard of any of these games*

Just managed to track down a used copy of ICO for the PS2.  From the few minutes I've spent playing it, it seems like it really is very similar thematically to Shadow of the Colossus.  Should be quite the experience.
I *love* ICO. I actually got spoiled on the story, but still thoroughly enjoyed playing it even though I knew what would happen. It's quite the emotional game, have fun with it. :)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 09, 2008, 05:34:13 pm
I started replaying MDK2 last night. Anyone else remember that game? The story is hilarious and it has many unique gameplay concepts. I especially remember the bomb disabling sequences well, although I haven't gotten to that part yet.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 10, 2008, 01:15:24 am
I only played the first one. With "the worlds most interesting bomb" :) i need to get copies. They're a fiver each in most bargain bins. :yes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 10, 2008, 06:51:29 pm
Played a game of classic StarCraft today on line....but it was really slow and very disappointing.  Its such an old game I would have expected better performance online given todays broadband capabilities.  Its weird.

I thought StarCraft was lauded by critics.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Flipside on November 10, 2008, 07:51:08 pm
MDK was good, but I seem to recall there was one level I simply couldn't get past.

I was playing 'Project Nomads' a few weeks ago, not a bad game, but always felt it had a lot more potential than it used.

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 10, 2008, 09:40:13 pm
Played StarLancer yesterday. The difficulty of the game makes it look like a mountain.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 10, 2008, 09:57:51 pm
Quote
I only played the first one. With "the worlds most interesting bomb"  i need to get copies. They're a fiver each in most bargain bins.

I never played the first game. Was it a Windows or DOS title? I would like to check it out if it works on modern systems.

Although I think you only play as Kurt in it. Kurt probably has the least interesting levels in MDK2, as there are too many lockball sniping puzzles you have to do. Some of the alien level architecture in them is very cool though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 10, 2008, 11:09:34 pm
Played a game of classic StarCraft today on line....but it was really slow and very disappointing.  Its such an old game I would have expected better performance online given todays broadband capabilities.  Its weird.

I thought StarCraft was lauded by critics.

It was. Starcraft is genius. I think he just meant the game was lagging, which is odd, because I've never had a lag issue on a solid connection...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 11, 2008, 06:15:24 am
Has anybody owed "al-rahan" or the CS kresta in starlancer?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 11, 2008, 06:44:54 am
NEver owed em a thing, i killed em both though ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 11, 2008, 06:52:08 am
Where did you kill al rahan and where did you meet the kresta?

Al rahan always runs away on mission 7 (his craft in indistructable) and AFAIK the kresta is the only cap ship that never showed in the game (it's said to guard the saladin).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 11, 2008, 07:06:45 am
I just read a few days ago that the ANS Reliant is destined to be destroyed somewhere around mission 14. Right now, I'm at mission 7 and considering re-doing mission 6 because one of the Mammoths got destroyed by a torpedo.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 11, 2008, 07:31:55 am
The sierra madre is bound to be destroyed (scripted event).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 11, 2008, 07:38:38 am
I've definitely killed an Arabian based capship, can't quite remember as i've not played in ages. I love the ANS Victorious' shape, sweet :yes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 11, 2008, 08:12:08 am
The ANS Yamato reminds me of Star Trek, though. ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 11, 2008, 09:57:49 am
Yes of course: there's the ramases (where al rahan is serving) only when his ship is endeangered he jumps out. Afterwords you deal destruction to the ramases's sister ship: the kozah, along with that one eyed guy, call sign pharaoh, which you can shoot down (he doesn't appear with the name "leader of" though, but only as a member of his squadron, however when he adresses you you can see his one eye features, and when you down him moose tells you "yeah: you got him!"
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 11, 2008, 06:21:03 pm
Been playing Titan's Quest: Immortal Throne. Anyone of you heard/played it ?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: IceFire on November 11, 2008, 06:52:39 pm
Played a game of classic StarCraft today on line....but it was really slow and very disappointing.  Its such an old game I would have expected better performance online given todays broadband capabilities.  Its weird.

I thought StarCraft was lauded by critics.
It was.  The game is brilliant!  What do you think I was saying?

The game I was having was very laggy and slow.  Never seen it so bad. Might have been my connection in the hosting of it...no idea.  Have to try again.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Flipside on November 11, 2008, 06:54:50 pm
Been playing Titan's Quest: Immortal Throne. Anyone of you heard/played it ?

I played it, it wasn't bad, for a generic Diablo-esque hacker. Not sure if I ever finished it to be honest, that was back when my Graphics card would overheat if Direct X so much as looked at it...
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 11, 2008, 07:27:15 pm
I used to get that in FS2_Open too, until I updated my graphics drivers. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 12, 2008, 02:39:49 am
I'd say the yamato reminds me more of starship troopers's capital ship (especially the big rings).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 12, 2008, 02:44:43 am
Transport corvette :yes:
 
Classic games, monkey island one :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 12, 2008, 06:59:49 am
I played it, it wasn't bad, for a generic Diablo-esque hacker. Not sure if I ever finished it to be honest, that was back when my Graphics card would overheat if Direct X so much as looked at it...
Its awesome. I think you can find it and its expansion bundled together now adays. Thats how I got my TQ:IT. The physics system is pretty cool too.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 12, 2008, 10:21:21 pm
Anyone here still plays Little Fighter 2?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 13, 2008, 01:33:55 am
Never heard of it i'm afraid. Recently been playing super streefighter 2 (vanilla mo subtitle) mutant league football, super bomberman and original 90's pc worms.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rick James on November 13, 2008, 01:18:00 pm
I'm playing a real old title called 'Freespace'. Not many have heard of it.

...

Okay, yeah. I'm playing through Jedi Outcasr.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 13, 2008, 08:17:35 pm
Been playing RA2. Too much RA3 leads me to right click a lot, and I keep holding down the alt key cause I think it'll allow me to way point. I also have to remember Tanya has no TimeBelt. Which I forgot multiple times. :(
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 13, 2008, 08:22:15 pm
I'm playing a real old title called 'Freespace'. Not many have heard of it.

...

Okay, yeah. I'm playing through Jedi Outcasr.
/me sings "You Crack Me Up" by Josh Groban. :wakka:

Played Raptor again yesterday. I've managed to get through Wave 3 of Outer Regions on Elite difficulty, losing only one Phase Shield in the process, while at the same time shooting down most of the ships. :D

Wave 4 is going to be Hell when I play it again.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 14, 2008, 02:23:52 am
Did you nail all the ships in the last group (the stuff after the beam ships)? I remember it being particularly difficult to get every single one of those without using a megabomb, although it was possible.

Wave 4 is easier than 3. Apart from the last one, 6 and 7 are quite hard. 4, 5 and 8 are fairly easy.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 14, 2008, 02:32:02 am
Sounds interesting. What format is this on?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 14, 2008, 05:03:21 am
Installing Spellforce 2 Shadow Wars.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 14, 2008, 05:48:39 am
Due to Fallout 3, i dug out my old copy of Fallout 1, and saw the preview for Plansescape Torment... I've never played it, seen any gameplay footage or even a screenie due to my lack of interest in magicky wizardy-ness (apart from Hermione Granger now she's "growing up"....

Any comments on Planescape? Worth a look?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 14, 2008, 08:10:30 am
Yes. Absolutely. In terms of quality-of-writing, it's probably the best RPG ever made.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 14, 2008, 08:58:02 am
Is it more Diablo or Baldurs gate? :confused:

I'd check on-line but work-net is locked down tighter than a ducks butt-hole. ;7
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on November 14, 2008, 12:17:07 pm
I've had Planescape for years but never finished it. Awesome, but you've really got to commit to it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 14, 2008, 02:38:57 pm
Is it more Diablo or Baldurs gate? :confused:

I'd check on-line but work-net is locked down tighter than a ducks butt-hole. ;7

Very close to Baldur's Gate.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on November 14, 2008, 04:25:24 pm
Ok, so i have 1000 wiipoints leftover from my birthday. I've looked at several games (Yes, Super Metroid is on my list, but not right now) and i'm thinking of getting one of these:



So, can anyone tell me which is the best, or if theres other really good games i should look at, and maybe a good rating and review site (Well, gamespot is dead, and i'm using IGN atm, but that's not the best, i'm sure.)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Topgun on November 14, 2008, 05:29:49 pm
gamespot's reviews for old games are still good. it's the new ones that are borked.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on November 14, 2008, 06:40:31 pm
yeah, but a lot of them have been added recently. Metal Marines got really good though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 15, 2008, 09:18:13 am
Did you nail all the ships in the last group (the stuff after the beam ships)? I remember it being particularly difficult to get every single one of those without using a megabomb, although it was possible.

Wave 4 is easier than 3. Apart from the last one, 6 and 7 are quite hard. 4, 5 and 8 are fairly easy.

Well, like I said, I tend to be able to shoot most of the ships down, so I bag lots of credits.

I'm quite surprised that you say Wave 3 is harder than Wave 4. From how I see it, the Waves in Outer Regions, from hard to easy, are: 9, 7, 6, 8, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1.

Let me recall other Raptor moments. Do you know that, on Rookie difficulty, you can actually survive the first three Waves of Bravo Sector by just holding down your fire button and not moving?

Oh, and it'll be good to note some of the birthdays of the game developers. If I remember correctly, setting your system clock to certain dates like, say, May 16, will trigger Raptor's birthday mode. In birthday mode, there are some new enemies, like mechanised monkeys that hit you with coconuts, robot cows that have a back-mounted laser (in Bravo Sector on Rookie difficulty!), manta rays that have a single rapid-fire laser, and what appears to be a Star Trek reference at Wave 4 of Outer Regions that, when shot enough times, will reveal a Raw Freylium Ore that can be picked up.

Here are the dates that will trigger birthday mode:

March 12: Bobby Prince
May 16: Scott Host (I use this)
August 28: Rich Fleider
October 2: Jim Molinets

Here's a cheat: Pressing the Backspace key will resotre your shields and give you a Deathray, although it will also reset your credits to zero. You can hold down Backspace while flying to be invincible and get a lot of Deathrays.

Sounds interesting. What format is this on?

MS-DOS (3D Realms) or Windows (Mountain King Studios). You'll need to know how to use DOSBox if you play the MS-DOS version, and if you use the Windows version by Mountain King Studios, I cannot guarantee that the cheats will work (although birthday mode still appears to be present).
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 15, 2008, 12:18:13 pm
I'm quite surprised that you say Wave 3 is harder than Wave 4. From how I see it, the Waves in Outer Regions, from hard to easy, are: 9, 7, 6, 8, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1.

I guess the free phase shield you get in 3 makes up for it. But there is a reason why it's in that level and not in any of the later ones; 3 is somewhat tough given how early it comes. I try to grab every single enemy in most levels, which I find harder to do in 3 than 4. You should have a twin laser by then and most of the enemies in 4 either run in front of you or are big and slow.

I've seen those cheats. You can also activate the "birthday" mode by hitting some specific combination of the switches in the mission selection screen.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 15, 2008, 03:34:57 pm
       I'm playing Thief 1! Yay. Funny, for years, I had only played the demo, and from that demo I had assumed that the game was largely realistic with the thief invading castles full of regular guys in regular armour. Even when I got to the second mission, my briefing said the mines beneath the prison were haunted. I didn't pay much notice. "Haunted" I thought, "probably be spooky, maybe a harmless ghost, not much more."
 
      Then a zombie jumped up and killed my ass.

      "Oh, so . . . it is supernatural."
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 16, 2008, 10:42:26 pm
I'm replaying Far Cry now. This game is a throwback to older FPSs in many ways, with a lame story but great gameplay and level design. It's very long (especially by modern standards) but still fairly nonlinear, and also quite difficult. It was probably the last genuinely hard FPS I played, although I remember the last few levels going overboard with the difficulty. All this adds up to something that actually feels like a game though and not just an interactive movie, which is all too common among games these days.

It also looks surprisingly good considering that it came out in early 2004, and comes close to Crysis in some places. If you use the content update and the HDR with appropriately tweaked parameters, the graphics are comparable to most other 2007/08 games, and modern hardware can easily handle high levels of normal and transparency AA in it.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 17, 2008, 12:14:11 am
I'm replaying Far Cry now. This game is a throwback to older FPSs in many ways, with a lame story but great gameplay and level design. It's very long (especially by modern standards) but still fairly nonlinear, and also quite difficult. It was probably the last genuinely hard FPS I played, although I remember the last few levels going overboard with the difficulty. All this adds up to something that actually feels like a game though and not just an interactive movie, which is all too common among games these days.

         Yeah I played that a few weeks ago for the first time (yeah I'm behind). That game's awesome. I mean the story's nothing too original, but it's damn fun to play. And yeah, it was definately a long game . . .surprised it kept going and going. I dunno why FarCry 2 is called FarCry 2 when it seemingly has nothing to do with the original.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on November 17, 2008, 06:06:39 am
Far Cry was good but towards the end becomes horribily cliche. Zombie super-soliders and a volcano-side, super-villan villa ffs.
I prefered FarCry Evolution. That was much better, with some nice set-pieces and the final phase of fighting guerilla militants in an ancient, mountain-top temple complex.

Shame about the final boss though  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 17, 2008, 06:48:48 am
Far Cry was good but towards the end becomes horribily cliche. Zombie super-soliders and a volcano-side, super-villan villa ffs.
I prefered FarCry Evolution. That was much better, with some nice set-pieces and the final phase of fighting guerilla militants in an ancient, mountain-top temple complex.

Shame about the final boss though  :rolleyes:

    Bigger shame that it's only on the Xbox I'd say. Where's the PC version????
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 17, 2008, 07:02:50 am
You mean Instincts + Predator :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Titan on November 17, 2008, 04:44:29 pm
well, here are the two i'm torn between.

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/strategy/militarymadnesstg16/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/actraiser/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 18, 2008, 02:45:44 am
Currently I'm playing inca and inca 2: wiracocha.

Those games are quite curious but very enjoyable.

Perhaps I'll continue then with sandwarriors.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 18, 2008, 10:41:39 am
I have the first one. It's probably the strangest game I have ever played, but that is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on November 19, 2008, 03:17:41 am
i mostly find it funny! but original and very engaging.

you should by the second.

Also, a great game (but unfortunately very short) would be barrage from activision.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Kosh on November 19, 2008, 04:13:07 am
I'm kind of disappointed there hasn't been a sequel to AVP2 (the game) yet. Based on the ending it would seem they intended to make one.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 19, 2008, 07:21:11 am
PC Version? Yeah i know, it was great how the storys intertwined....

PRedator opening levels are the best by far... Jumping was never so much fun :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 19, 2008, 05:37:21 pm
I'm kind of disappointed there hasn't been a sequel to AVP2 (the game) yet. Based on the ending it would seem they intended to make one.
Yea. Too bad, I was hoping for a sequel.

PC Version? Yeah i know, it was great how the storys intertwined....

Predator opening levels are the best by far... Jumping was never so much fun :D
I got a bit irritated the first time I played it, but I now a days, I love it. Playing as Pred is so much fun. Lock-on plama bolts ftw.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 19, 2008, 06:43:24 pm
Played Waves 4 and 5 of Outer Regions in Raptor last night.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 19, 2008, 07:47:13 pm
I just played Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds, a 1998 game! W00t, nostalgia.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 19, 2008, 08:20:35 pm
Working my way through Shadow of the Colossus...over two years of playing this save file, and I've only killed seven of the things. :p At least it gives me time to appreciate how gorgeous the game is.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 20, 2008, 01:19:14 am
Working my way through Shadow of the Colossus...over two years of playing this save file, and I've only killed seven of the things. :p At least it gives me time to appreciate how gorgeous the game is.

    Is that bad boy on PC? The poster always looked wicked cool.
    Suppose I could look it up for myself ;)

    Finished Thief 1, now I'm onto Thief 2. Man, Thief 1 was great. I've never been so **** scared by a video game before. Doom 3 was startling, FEAR was creepy, but Thief was hair raising. I would freak out just even fighting those little baby spiders in hand to hand.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 20, 2008, 02:21:09 am
    Is that bad boy on PC? The poster always looked wicked cool.
    Suppose I could look it up for myself ;)
Nope, it's a PS2 title.  Still absolutely gorgeous, though, considering the hardware.  The same development team made an earlier game called ICO that's almost as unique; I'm just starting to work through that one.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 20, 2008, 03:26:35 am
Going back to AVP2, actually having the option to delay chestbursting when you're in it was another golden moment for me :drevil:...especially after shredding his innards first.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on November 21, 2008, 06:30:13 am
I prefered the first AVP, even if it was bloody hard and the Predator was rubbish.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 21, 2008, 06:31:35 am
That skirmish map, marooned or something where you start by an EEV was the worst one..........sheer terror.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 22, 2008, 02:28:55 am
I finished Raptor again on Elite difficulty for all missions without cheats or workarounds! :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: VERTi60 on November 23, 2008, 04:32:47 pm
Try a classic real time strategy, still popular online. Netstorm: Islands at war, you can dowload the latest version from this site: www.netstormhq.com
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Mongoose on November 23, 2008, 08:01:22 pm
Speaking of old games, I'm visiting the original Legend of Zelda (via GBA port) for the first time.  The 3D games have me spoiled...this **** is hard. :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 23, 2008, 11:06:35 pm
Well, games were a lot harder back then. Ever heard of AVGN? ;)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 23, 2008, 11:44:13 pm
Well, games were a lot harder back then. Ever heard of AVGN?
Nup.

Meddling around with Netstorm. Damn this is nostalgic.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 24, 2008, 06:38:27 am
AVGN, or the Angry Video Game Nerd, does reviews of old games. Sometimes, he just plays it bad to give himself an excuse to rant, but usually, the difficulty of the games he plays is genuinely insane.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 24, 2008, 11:22:54 am
I finished Lemmings 3D last night. The gameplay is very unique and well designed, but like Lemmings 2 it's let down by being too easy by the standards of the series. There were perhaps 10 levels that I actually had to think about.

Still need to complete Lemmings Revolution now. That game can be frustrating since it doesn't incorporate any of the interface improvements made in the earlier games, but it actually does provide a real challenge and is the closest to the original game among all the sequels.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: shiv on November 24, 2008, 11:28:20 am
Rcently I'm playing 1991 Prince of Persia :)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 24, 2008, 11:34:48 am
Road rash 2 and Splatterhouse on the Megadrive. Also 2020 baseball on the Snes :pimp:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 24, 2008, 06:37:07 pm
I tried BioMenace last night. It works, but not as similar as it would on a real DOS computer.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Angelus on November 24, 2008, 07:14:36 pm
I'm playing atm, one of my all time favorites on PC: Shining Force a old Sega Mega Drive game.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Polpolion on November 24, 2008, 08:04:44 pm
Tyrian, FTW!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 24, 2008, 08:34:50 pm
Played some Homeworld 2, with and without the PDS mod.

Great time, that mod, though it doesn't really do anything tactically new as compared to baseline Homeworld 2-- it's still just 'build a lot of big ships and fly them at the enemy.'

I was on the sixth-ish PDS dev team, and I lasted through until about the eighth. Went back to check on the site recently and was amused to see the few stragglers calling one of their number a 'veteran' when he'd only been around a year or two.

Shame that project went so bad so fast. They attracted a ton of great talent and then threw it away.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 24, 2008, 08:48:10 pm
Tyrian, FTW!

Here we go again... ;)

I need a laptop mouse to play it properly on my Mac, but as of yet I don't have one, so it's just sitting in my Mac and taking up a little bit of free space.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Polpolion on November 25, 2008, 09:15:12 pm
Played some Homeworld 2, with and without the PDS mod.

Great time, that mod, though it doesn't really do anything tactically new as compared to baseline Homeworld 2-- it's still just 'build a lot of big ships and fly them at the enemy.'

I was on the sixth-ish PDS dev team, and I lasted through until about the eighth. Went back to check on the site recently and was amused to see the few stragglers calling one of their number a 'veteran' when he'd only been around a year or two.

Shame that project went so bad so fast. They attracted a ton of great talent and then threw it away.

The recent versions are still fun. TBH, I did have a lot more fun with the older 7.3.2 because of the fact that there were a lot more guns, and I had a bit more fun with version 6. Shame the AIs weren't fully done for those versions, though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 25, 2008, 11:19:48 pm
Been playing NetStorm and MechCommander 2.

I attacked an assault/heavy demi lance with a jump lance and fire lance of light and medium 'Mechs. I've probably never had a bigger high while playing MechCommander.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 26, 2008, 12:26:01 am
Played some Homeworld 2, with and without the PDS mod.

Great time, that mod, though it doesn't really do anything tactically new as compared to baseline Homeworld 2-- it's still just 'build a lot of big ships and fly them at the enemy.'

I was on the sixth-ish PDS dev team, and I lasted through until about the eighth. Went back to check on the site recently and was amused to see the few stragglers calling one of their number a 'veteran' when he'd only been around a year or two.

Shame that project went so bad so fast. They attracted a ton of great talent and then threw it away.

The recent versions are still fun. TBH, I did have a lot more fun with the older 7.3.2 because of the fact that there were a lot more guns, and I had a bit more fun with version 6. Shame the AIs weren't fully done for those versions, though.

I get bummed out at what could have happened, though.

At one point, believe it or not, PDS had an SCP-quality team. There were talented original modelers, a killer fluff guy with amazing graphic design skills (Norsehound), and military members from all over the world contributing. And then Tel just threw it all away.

It could've been such a spectacular project without him. The versions since v7 have basically been working with the material that team (in its various iterations) produced.

Been playing NetStorm and MechCommander 2.

I attacked an assault/heavy demi lance with a jump lance and fire lance of light and medium 'Mechs. I've probably never had a bigger high while playing MechCommander.

Have you played Mechcommander 1? It's even better than 2.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Angelus on November 26, 2008, 06:09:26 am
Have you played Mechcommander 1? It's even better than 2.


So true. :yes:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 26, 2008, 07:40:13 am
I have actually. Played both. I do agree that its better, and also more difficult. Although the Mad Cat is really a dangerous opponent in MC1. But I can't find my MC1 so I'm stuck with MC2, which isn't so bad in its own right.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 26, 2008, 08:52:27 am
It's funny how good sprite-based graphics still look compared to 3D.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Angelus on November 26, 2008, 09:09:36 am
I have actually. Played both. I do agree that its better, and also more difficult. Although the Mad Cat is really a dangerous opponent in MC1. But I can't find my MC1 so I'm stuck with MC2, which isn't so bad in its own right.


Try to get MCG ( Gold edition ), it has a additional campaign and new mechs.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 26, 2008, 09:09:51 am
The campaign is even harder.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on November 26, 2008, 04:40:14 pm
    I joined a VGA Planets 4 game. Give 'er a go. Used to play VGAP3 years ago but usually loose interest half-way through. Planets4 was always confusing when I tried it but having taken a second look it seems not too bad. Will get my butt kicked no doubt
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Angelus on November 26, 2008, 04:49:45 pm
The campaign is even harder.

Yep  :)

Did ya play the fan made campaign for MC 2?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 26, 2008, 07:17:37 pm
It's funny how good sprite-based graphics still look compared to 3D.
Damn straight.

Try to get MCG ( Gold edition ), it has a additional campaign and new mechs.
I know, I'm searching around for it, but its not easy to find old games in Singapore.

Did ya play the fan made campaign for MC 2?
Nope. Where can I find it ?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on November 26, 2008, 11:34:26 pm
It's funny how good sprite-based graphics still look compared to 3D.

This is common with games from the mid 90s. The 2D titles look much better today than 3D ones from the same period. 3D was a novelty back then and was seen as the great new thing, but most of the early 3D games (roughly up to 1997) have aged very poorly compared to the newer 2D games, which still look pretty good.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 26, 2008, 11:59:01 pm
Played BioMenace Episode 1: Dr. Mangle's Lab from Downtown Metro to No Man's Land.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on November 27, 2008, 01:02:33 am
It's funny how good sprite-based graphics still look compared to 3D.

This is common with games from the mid 90s. The 2D titles look much better today than 3D ones from the same period. 3D was a novelty back then and was seen as the great new thing, but most of the early 3D games (roughly up to 1997) have aged very poorly compared to the newer 2D games, which still look pretty good.

In some ways I think that sprites look better than a lot of graphics even in modern RTSes, particularly in the crispness of units against the background.

It's kind of similar to the way that Halo 1 often seems to look better than Halo 3.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 27, 2008, 01:42:59 am
I just realised Fallout tactics is older than FS2.
 
It still looks pretty good even though it's spitey but FS2s' cutscenes are definitely better.
 
I played FOT yesterday with my little bro and took his whole team out by arming a C4 timer and sticking it on my squads dog and charging his position. The dog was :snipe: (rip dogmeat the third) but his whole squad went boom.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 27, 2008, 11:21:32 am
Nope. Where can I find it ?

Depends which one you mean. Personally I recommend Magic's Unoffical Expansion, available here: http://www.dropshipcommand.com/forum/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=15&topic_id=3886&mesg_id=3886&page=

Be aware that to make the Exodus 2.0 missions manageable for a casual player might mean using the mission editor to bust them up a bit; these missions are not screwing around, and they will repeatedly kill you. I also recommend altering the campaign file so you start with a much larger amount of money.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 28, 2008, 05:00:31 am
The Carver 5 Campaign was also tweaked to be more difficult? Or just the Exodus 2.0?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 28, 2008, 06:24:48 am
Carver V is only tweaked if you used the files for that, IIRC. It will, however, always lack the slightly sadistic mission design of Exodus 2.0. I personally ended up doing some minor rework of several of the Exodus 2.0 missions in the editor to make it a bit more manageable, but as long as you give yourself enough cash in the start to buy a Dragon and an Assassin the remainder is doable with enough luck and skill. A lot of people played the thing and nobody ever outright sad "It's too hard, burn it all" though some of us did go into the game files and use the break tool on whatever we found most offensive.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 28, 2008, 08:49:16 am
I'm interested in the new 'Mechs, but not really interested in the interested difficulty ... :p Oh well. No pain no gain.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Bluecap on December 02, 2008, 05:33:37 pm
Console: Final Fantasy 7, 8, and X-2; Xenosaga I
PC: Command and Conquer (GDI, original...currently going through the entire series from start to finish again), Tyrian

Off and on, of course.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 02, 2008, 08:59:26 pm
The soundtrack of Bio Menace is excellent. I'm hearing it now. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on December 06, 2008, 01:44:37 am
   There's one good thing about revisiting old games, or one good thing about playing old games for the first time. That is, you discover there's already a bunch of mods done for it. Like for example I'm playing some new Thief 2 campaign with a bunch of new graphics and audio and all the whole nine yards. Oh course freespace is a perfect example of this
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 06, 2008, 02:14:28 am
Freelancer, FreeSpace, Descent...yeah.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 06, 2008, 02:20:34 am
Dawn of War.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 06, 2008, 02:29:14 am
DOW's not that old already is it? Wow that was fast. . .
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on December 06, 2008, 02:38:19 am
I finished Freedom Force for the first time. The concept and comic book story in this are simply brilliant, reminiscent of MDK2 in some ways. The gameplay isn't so hot though, as the AI and control interface are dodgy and randomness played a big role in the combat sequences. I don't know if this is a common thing in RPGs, but I found it rather annoying. The great atmosphere made up for it though and kept me playing through it, and I would like to try the sequel soon as well.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Bluecap on December 06, 2008, 03:12:19 am
I loved Freedom Force as well! Great game, and like you said, great atmosphere. I wish there were more games like that really, else I wouldn't have spent hundreds of dollars on a City of Heroes subscription (that I've finally put down like the sick dog it was!).  :ick:

Dawn of War is really fun with the Tabletop Mod by Zany Reaper.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/tabletop-round-up (http://www.moddb.com/mods/tabletop-round-up)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Wobble73 on December 07, 2008, 04:09:49 pm
Just watched "The Phantom Menace", re-installing Pod-racer and Phantom Menace for a laugh!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Polpolion on December 07, 2008, 09:50:42 pm
Going through Homeworld and Homeworld: Cataclysm.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on December 07, 2008, 10:44:23 pm
Going through Homeworld and Homeworld: Cataclysm.

SALUBRIOUS.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rick James on December 08, 2008, 02:09:51 am
Going through Homeworld and Homeworld: Cataclysm.

SALUBRIOUS.

?

*goes to dictionary.com*

Quote
1.    promoting health; healthful; "a healthy diet"; "clean healthy air"; "plenty of healthy sleep"; "healthy and normal outlets for youthful energy"; "the salubrious mountain air and water"- C.B.Davis; "carrots are good for you" [syn: healthy]
2.    favorable to health of mind or body; "not the most salubrious campsite"; "one of the less salubrious suburbs"

Ohhh.

Homeworld and Homeworld: Cataclysm are both very likable for the fact that the games, despite being RTSs, actually draw an emotion response from the player. Homeworld 2 was a ****ing screwup in that regard: all the voice actors sounded bored. And the story was made of fail.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on December 08, 2008, 08:25:05 am
nobody mentionned jill of the jungle?

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT A GOOD GAME IS? :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: redsniper on December 08, 2008, 01:07:48 pm
Homeworld and Homeworld: Cataclysm are both very likable for the fact that the games, despite being RTSs, actually draw an emotion response from the player. Homeworld 2 was a ****ing screwup in that regard: all the voice actors sounded bored. And the story was made of fail.
KHARAAAAAAAK!!!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on December 08, 2008, 03:36:46 pm
I'm buzzing off of PS1 games at the moment. Currently AceCombat3 and SoulEdge, got Ghost in the Shell, RageRacer, AceCombat2 and G-Police ebay pending!

Also open to any suggestions as I've forgotten most of the games I had ?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Rand al Thor on December 08, 2008, 05:18:51 pm
Bah! G-Police! That's one of my big gaming regrets. I got it with one of my ye'old gateway P2 G350 but charitably like the good citizen I am, gave it to a friend for a lend. Well, it hadn't been well established yet but the years, including that incident, have proven him a ****er for returning things. I know he didn't steal it, he probably didnt even play it. Just chucked it in a corner and forgot.

I was halfway through it. Great fun for the time at least.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on December 09, 2008, 06:34:51 am
G police. Real great IMO.

Although you should forget the PS1 version, and play the PC version with a joystick.

Pity weapons of justice is PS1 only. Good thing emulation is quite advanced.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: kalnaren on December 09, 2008, 10:23:57 am
I reinstalled TIE Fighter the other day, and I'm playing that through again.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 09, 2008, 04:29:57 pm
G police. Real great IMO.

Although you should forget the PS1 version, and play the PC version with a joystick.

Pity weapons of justice is PS1 only. Good thing emulation is quite advanced.


Havoc gunships are Suh-Weeeeeet, hyper rockets are good too :)


I love the Armoured Core and Ace Combat series(es?) too :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: -Joshua- on December 10, 2008, 04:12:03 am
Freespace 2.

Before that, I did fallout, but I quit temporarly due to being electrified by an force field. I forgot to save beforehand.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 10, 2008, 04:24:26 am
Not "that" forcefield at the end of the game?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: starlord on December 10, 2008, 05:21:32 am
G police. Real great IMO.

Although you should forget the PS1 version, and play the PC version with a joystick.

Pity weapons of justice is PS1 only. Good thing emulation is quite advanced.


Havoc gunships are Suh-Weeeeeet, hyper rockets are good too :)


Not as good as the killer venom  :mad2:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Polpolion on December 10, 2008, 08:43:34 pm
My strike craft complement is turning out to be quite heroic in HW:C. :D


Spoiler:
I started out the game quickly, making two squadrons of 20 acolytes, because 10 is simply not enough, and tends to get outnumbered and outgunned really quickly in battles. I didn't lose a single proximity sensor, because I played the game before and knew it was going to happen. Only 3 acolytes lost this mission. Two lost to the multi-gun corvettes at the proximity sensors, one to the defenders at the hostile recourse location.

The next mission went a lot better, I managed to locate and repair the Bushan-Re with first squadron, and when I was supposed to do the next objective, I rotated them out for second squadron. No losses this mission, everything went really smoothly. Pretty boring, actually.

The next mission I sent out first squadron to destroy the first layer of minefields while I sent second squadron out in front of them to cover them from enemy fighters. I repeated this for the second minefield. About then, though, second squadron had some pretty roughed up ships, so I sent them back for a repair and sent first squadron up to draw out enemy ships. I managed to to take all of the enemy ships out a distance away from the minefield, but now first squad was pretty roughed up. The only baddies left were the mines though, so I called second squadron back to escort the Clee-san while first squadron made a hole in the minefield for the research ship, and then went back for repairs. I lost two fighters when first squadron took down the baddies surrounding the Clee-san, but that was it.

For the third mission, all I lost was the obligatory 10 acolytes that were scripted to die. It made me really sad. :( I rebuilt and temporarily combined first and second squad into a 40 fighter group to fend off the beast's attacks.

The fourth mission made up for it easily. I sent a throw-away recon to the bentusi, and I just sat back at harvested resources and built support modules. I made two more squadrons, bringing my total to four squadrons of 20 acolytes, or 80 fighters (A decent fighter complement for a carrier). When the bentusi asploded, I scrambled first squadron to protect the allied carrier, and second squadron to take care of an incoming frigate flotilla. Second squadron used its missiles and took care of the fighters, but was pretty damaged so I had to resupply them. Meanwhile, I was under somewhat heavy assault from my other flank, the direction of the beast's carrier. I moved fourth squadron over there and kept third on my front right side in case any more frigates popped up. After a while of fighting, second squad was resupplied, so I let them take third squad's spot, let fourth squadron repair and rearm, and I moved foward upon the enemy with third squad, first squad still being at the allied carrier on the enemies flank. A few ion array frigates appeared unescorted near third, so I had them take em down with missiles. I continued moving foward with third, and once third had the enemy carrier in range, I took replaced first squadron with fourth and moved first on the attack at the carrier. (I didn't move fourth directly to the enemy carrier because this way the attack would be quicker, less time for third squad to be exposed). I had third squad assault the carrier dead on and distract the enemy fighters and corvettes, but they already used their missiles, so I had them draw the strike craft out leaving the carrier exposed for first squad to deliver their missiles. Then it was just mop up of workers and stuff. No losses this mission, except for that stupid recon unit, which doesn't really count because I hate recons.

The next mission is that really annoying nebula escort mission.  Anyway, I had one recon with my main battlegroup, one on foward operations with first squadron. Second, Third, and Fourth squadrons were all escorting the command ship and the carrier. Whenever I saw an enemy patrol, I immediately had second squad move out and take them down. Things actually went quite smoothly. I never had to repair first squadron or second squadron, which were the only squads that actually saw combat at this point in the mission. Once we got to the end of the route with the Imperial Heavy Cruiser, I moved two leeches up along with 5 workers and third squad. I sent the leeches in, and two minutes later, I assaulted the enemy position with first and third squad, first squad taking the brunt of the enemy defender's guns. Then I had third squad deliver their missile payload on the HC, which brought it within capturable range. I moved my 5 workers in and "salvaged" the heavy cruiser. I would've stayed to nab some enemy destroyers, but I didn't have enough SU, and I didn't want to retire any squadrons yet. Total losses for this mission was two acolytes from first squadron, which as I said killed like 15 enemy defenders around a heavy crusier.

I didn't play any farther, so :p

I'm quite proud of my fighter craft. :nod:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on December 10, 2008, 09:16:22 pm
Acolytes are very plucky.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 10, 2008, 11:43:51 pm
Acolytes are very plucky.
That they are.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: -Joshua- on December 12, 2008, 06:29:57 am
Not "that" forcefield at the end of the game?

A Forcefield in a Mutant camp bend on taking over the Vault ("In... Your... Dreams..." *SMACK* "*Auwr!"*

I do not think I got at the end of the game that early. I did even find the water chip yet.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on December 14, 2008, 12:13:28 am
Next game up for me is Unreal 2. This was an underrated game and probably had the best variety of any FPS I've played, in terms of level environments, weapons and enemies. The story is fairly average, but each level brings in something new gameplay-wise.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on December 14, 2008, 05:40:19 am
Next game up for me is Unreal 2. This was an underrated game and probably had the best variety of any FPS I've played, in terms of level environments, weapons and enemies. The story is fairly average, but each level brings in something new gameplay-wise.
I love that game. It's story was quite poor, but I liked the visuals. I also loved the standard issue rifle. Corner shooting is freaking awesome.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on December 15, 2008, 12:04:47 am
and unreal 2 multiplayer was awesome, it should of been included in ut2004 + ut3
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Post by: Roanoke on December 15, 2008, 05:55:08 am
It felt "all graphics no game" to me as combat was unremarkable. ut2004 was/is awesome though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on December 15, 2008, 02:09:53 pm
UT2004 had tons of content and polish, but its basic gameplay mechanics were flawed for most people who came from the original UT. The weapon balance in particular had serious problems. It was still a fun game though.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 16, 2008, 04:25:06 am
Tried running an old demo in Descent 3 just now and ended up crashing it.

So I went to play Bejeweled 2.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: eliex on December 16, 2008, 05:24:23 pm
I've got a disc for Descent 3 . . . but I can't run it anymore.  :(
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 16, 2008, 10:19:59 pm
Really? Why?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: CP5670 on December 17, 2008, 12:05:27 am
Quote
Tried running an old demo in Descent 3 just now and ended up crashing it.

The demo system in those old games was quite nice. I still have several demos of the HLP Descent 2 games we played here two years ago.

It's a pity that most games no longer support it. (a few do through console commands though)
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 17, 2008, 12:36:07 am
Well, that demo I had was recorded from multiplayer. It's bound to have a few errors.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Davros on December 17, 2008, 07:46:40 am
ps: link to Unreal eXpanded Muliplayer
http://www.free-monkey.com/main/utxmp.php
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 17, 2008, 09:01:57 am
Got back my copy of RollerCoaster Tycoon 2. I'm going to install it tomorrow with the expansion packs. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on December 17, 2008, 04:00:01 pm
I'm gonna go and ebay-seacrch VirtuaCop. We (myself and workbuddy) took ages to remember that name.

UT2004 had tons of content and polish, but its basic gameplay mechanics were flawed for most people who came from the original UT. The weapon balance in particular had serious problems. It was still a fun game though.

Yeah I recall you lamenting the Flak cannon some time ago. Lucky for me I had noever really played oUT  ;)

Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 17, 2008, 11:33:25 pm
I just fired up my copy of RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, but it's pretty empty. I made a Floorless Roller Coaster track (Buckshot) before exploring Six Flags Magic Mountain and quitting. I'll need my discs with all the extra scenarios and data. :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: eliex on December 17, 2008, 11:51:13 pm
Really? Why?

*shrug.

Computer simply crashes halfway on setup. Hmm . . . perhaps the disc is way too scratched up being like 7 years old.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 18, 2008, 10:06:13 am
Created a new scenario in RollerCoaster Tycoon 2. :D
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Post by: Polpolion on December 18, 2008, 12:27:22 pm
Homeworld 1 AI sucks. I ordered a group of 10 corvettes to retreat to a position ~20km away during a fight, but instead of retreating, they flew around in circles in front of 6 enemy assault frigates.  :blah:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on December 18, 2008, 03:22:34 pm
sure they're not set to aggressive tactics ? Wich mission, incidentally, Return to Kharak ?
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Post by: Polpolion on December 18, 2008, 03:36:27 pm
sure they're not set to aggressive tactics ? Wich mission, incidentally, Return to Kharak ?

They did that on all 3 tactics a couple missions after Return to Kharak, when you take down the enemy destroyer and carrier.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: General Battuta on December 18, 2008, 05:35:56 pm
Homeworld 1 AI sucks. I ordered a group of 10 corvettes to retreat to a position ~20km away during a fight, but instead of retreating, they flew around in circles in front of 6 enemy assault frigates.  :blah:

Odd. That doesn't usually happen.

You sure they weren't out of fuel? Maybe the position was too far away and they got confused.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on December 18, 2008, 09:15:47 pm
Homeworld 1 AI sucks. I ordered a group of 10 corvettes to retreat to a position ~20km away during a fight, but instead of retreating, they flew around in circles in front of 6 enemy assault frigates.  :blah:

     Maybe they were out of fuel?
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 18, 2008, 10:29:07 pm
I've never had problems with the HW1 AI before. They always listen to what I tell them to do.
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Roanoke on December 19, 2008, 07:02:02 am
You're corvettes should be nowhere near the Frigates in that mission anyway ie; it's your fault   ;)
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Post by: Polpolion on December 19, 2008, 01:16:57 pm
You're corvettes should be nowhere near the Frigates in that mission anyway ie; it's your fault   ;)

Well they were fighting the carrier's strike craft compliment, but somehow all of their ships managed to stumble upon my forces at the same time. Eight frigates can't handle 9 or so more and a destroyer on their own, usually. :p
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 20, 2008, 07:39:54 am
Generally, I find that I can use corvettes, light corvettes, to bait cruisers into range of my Missile Destroyers and Destroyers ... By the way, I love how a pair of MDs can more or less destroy any and all fighters than come into range.
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Post by: Roanoke on December 20, 2008, 03:24:09 pm
You're corvettes should be nowhere near the Frigates in that mission anyway ie; it's your fault   ;)

Well they were fighting the carrier's strike craft compliment, but somehow all of their ships managed to stumble upon my forces at the same time. Eight frigates can't handle 9 or so more and a destroyer on their own, usually. :p

Yeah you really need to go at the seperate groups individually. Especially if you're big on salvage corvettes, as I am.
I usually find I can grab a group of Frigates but it usually draws more and more hostiles in to the battle and the whole thing snowballs  :shaking:
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 20, 2008, 09:07:11 pm
Yeah you really need to go at the seperate groups individually. Especially if you're big on salvage corvettes, as I am.
I usually find I can grab a group of Frigates but it usually draws more and more hostiles in to the battle and the whole thing snowballs  :shaking:
I know. I have a carrier crammed full of salvage corvettes, so I bring it in close and behind my main fleet. So the main fleet draws flak while the salvage corvettes grab the frigates. I managed to grab a heavy cruiser once. I had my entire fleet escort the captured cruiser back to the Banana.
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Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 20, 2008, 09:13:57 pm
I'm playing RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 again! :D
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Post by: eliex on December 20, 2008, 10:19:35 pm
My friend persuaded me to play Pacman and actually it's quite fun!
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 20, 2008, 10:49:36 pm
That's the reaon why Pac-Man is an all-time classic. Much like Arkanoid. Of which I have a clone called Blast-Thru.
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Post by: CP5670 on December 20, 2008, 11:45:56 pm
Speaking of that, I spent yesterday afternoon checking out a ton of early 90s Mac games (from Mac Garden, a sub-site of Underdogs) in my emulation setup. I love how most of the games back then made you go WTF every few seconds from the sheer oddness of it all. The hilariously over the top sound effects contribute to that as well. :D
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 21, 2008, 05:38:12 am
My friend persuaded me to play Pacman and actually it's quite fun!
I once played a Pacman where there were other Pacmans and we could all get guns and shoot each other and the ghosts. T'was much fun. I forgot what it was called though, sadly.
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Post by: Rick James on December 21, 2008, 12:59:16 pm
Playing "Albion". Me love spaceship Toronto long time.
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Post by: Titan on December 21, 2008, 02:26:39 pm
My friend persuaded me to play Pacman and actually it's quite fun!
I once played a Pacman where there were other Pacmans and we could all get guns and shoot each other and the ghosts. T'was much fun. I forgot what it was called though, sadly.

http://www.addictinggames.com/pacmanwar.html
Title: Re: revisiting old games
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 21, 2008, 05:38:46 pm
http://www.addictinggames.com/pacmanwar.html
That's not it. The one I played was on my computer, and it was in 3-D. Or isometric.