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Title: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Darksider on August 22, 2008, 11:24:33 am: So, this is out for Xbox Live and PSN, has anyone else tried it yet?

The lock on system is worthless, but the combos you can cook up with force powers are freakin sweet.
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Post by: Rick James on August 22, 2008, 01:22:57 pm: It was pretty fun being able to grab a TIE Fighter from outside the freaking ship and smashing it into a hapless stormtrooper.
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Post by: Retsof on August 22, 2008, 09:01:07 pm: *sigh* I wish it was for the Wii...
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Post by: Flipside on August 22, 2008, 09:43:10 pm: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/8/20/

Had to be done...
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Post by: Al Tarket on August 23, 2008, 02:07:23 am: i hate this when this happens, they release it to only 2 useable os systems, and totally ignore systems like wii, pc and nintendo. but because this isnt gta 4 or halo, i doubt this will be ported.

how far is your range to grab objects? and is it possible to open the fighters hatch to suck a person into space?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Fury on August 23, 2008, 05:03:09 am: Quote
The game will be available on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation Portable, Nintendo DS, second-generation N-Gage, iPhone, iPod Touch, and PlayStation 2.
I hope the game will be ported on PC if it is a good game and worth buying.

Quote from: Al Tarket on August 23, 2008, 02:07:23 am
how far is your range to grab objects? and is it possible to open the fighters hatch to suck a person into space?
Watch the videos from http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/
Should give you some insight about ranges and what you can do in the game.
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Post by: Snail on August 23, 2008, 05:30:58 am: The DMM and Euphoria AI sound interesting.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 23, 2008, 06:19:20 am: Quote from: Al Tarket on August 23, 2008, 02:07:23 am
i hate this when this happens, they release it to only 2 useable os systems, and totally ignore systems like wii, pc and nintendo. but because this isnt gta 4 or halo, i doubt this will be ported.
Electronic Gaming Monthly states that the Force Unleashed is for every platform.

A search on Gamespot shows the same thing. IGN too. So I'd say is for all known platforms, save the PC.
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Post by: brandx0 on August 23, 2008, 11:21:32 am: According to their Website: PS2, PS3, PSP, Nintendo DS, Wii, and XBox 360

Having watched a video on their site detailing the consoles, the 360 and PS3 versions are being developed by the core studio, while the rest have been outsourced to another studio. There's a video comparison on their website detailing the different features of each, the PS2 will have some extra story content, the PSP will have some classic duels from the movies, the Wii will use the Wiimote (Duh, Though from the video it still seems like no developer has really figured out how to use that thing like it was originally intended...) the DS will have some kind of touchscreen interface for force powers, and the 360 and PS3 versions will have great graphics (Note: This is mutually exclusive, the Wii version still looks like the PS2 or PSP versions...)
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Post by: phatosealpha on August 23, 2008, 02:00:04 pm: One of them has the Vader/Skywalker duel on cloud city as a bonus fight.
Though, you know, in retrospect, that wasn't a very impressive battle, really. Cripple versus a barely trained kid.
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Post by: brandx0 on August 23, 2008, 03:28:17 pm: That's the PSP Version.

All in all I'm rather disappointed with the style they're giving force powers, as always. It looks a bit more Dragonball Z than it does Star Wars. I'd love to see a Star Wars game where the force is somewhat like in the movies: i.e. no extra glowy special effects.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: General Battuta on August 23, 2008, 04:06:36 pm: Quote from: Al Tarket on August 23, 2008, 02:07:23 am
i hate this when this happens, they release it to only 2 useable os systems, and totally ignore systems like wii, pc and nintendo. but because this isnt gta 4 or halo, i doubt this will be ported.

how far is your range to grab objects? and is it possible to open the fighters hatch to suck a person into space?

It is being released on Wii. Also, um, if you've referenced the Wii, what is the Nintendo? The DS?

Halo has never been ported to another platform except for PC/Mac, so that's a bit of an odd example.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: brandx0 on August 23, 2008, 04:42:10 pm: Maybe you should have read my post, no need to say something twice. It's coming out on pretty much every system (except PC/Mac).
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Post by: General Battuta on August 23, 2008, 04:44:42 pm: I read it. I apologize if my post seemed redundant. There were a couple other things I wanted to comment on.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 24, 2008, 05:31:39 am: Quote from: brandx0 on August 23, 2008, 03:28:17 pm
All in all I'm rather disappointed with the style they're giving force powers, as always. It looks a bit more Dragonball Z than it does Star Wars. I'd love to see a Star Wars game where the force is somewhat like in the movies: i.e. no extra glowy special effects.
I know. But you can't deny the shiny effects look cool. I might get a 360 just to hurl a TiE at stormtroopers. I've heard there's a section Starkiller pulls a Star Destroyer in from space, Starkiller being the apprentice's supposed name.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Snail on August 24, 2008, 05:34:34 am: Starkiller was Luke Skywalker's original name... That's interesting.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 24, 2008, 05:40:00 am: Spoiler:
Ah, Starkiller is his codename. His real name is Galen Marek. Interesting.

Realised that the link had major spoilers. Its on Wookiepedia if you really wanna read it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Snail on August 24, 2008, 05:47:29 am: Not gonna play it, may as well find out what the story is.
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Post by: haloboy100 on August 24, 2008, 01:36:25 pm: I have a wii, but I hate it so much (I only bought the thing to play 2 games anyway) I'm just goign to play it on my friend's PS3 when it comes out (he pre-ordered it).
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 24, 2008, 09:34:46 pm: You know, the Force Unleashed on the Wii has motion control for force powers ...... Plus each console version is different from the others in little ways.
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Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 03:06:36 am: are you sure it supports all ports?
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Post by: Snail on August 25, 2008, 03:13:35 am: Unless it's a blatant lie, yeah.
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Post by: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 03:54:25 am: i have looked around and according to the the main force unleaded site and wiki its not ported to pc, so it was a blatant lie. i said before some reply, so they ignoring pc, nitendo and wii? where someone answer to all of the above.
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Post by: Fury on August 25, 2008, 04:12:31 am: How about re-reading the previous page? I and several others posted full list of supported platforms, those included Wii and DS. The only platform the game won't be available on is PC, but that doesn't mean there won't be a PC port if the game is a financial success on consoles. The game is for consoles, so there were no lies.
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Post by: brandx0 on August 25, 2008, 04:39:54 am: Wow, people need to read more than just their own posts and the ones immediately after. Sometimes it seems like if you're not the first person to reply to a question your answer is ignored... even if your answer is the correct one...
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Inquisitor on August 25, 2008, 07:28:38 am: Welcome to the Internet.

That said, I enjoyed the demo and will probably pick this up on the 360 at some point, or at least rent it. Don't see a difference between that and the ps3 version, and the Wii version sounds like it might be fun, but less impressive graphically, maybe I will rent that at some point.

I like the sound of blasters and lightsabers, and the action was solid and relatively easy to get into. The demo was "fun" which is all I ever want from a game :)
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 25, 2008, 08:47:49 am: Did'ja throw a TiE at the Stormtroopers?
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Post by: TopAce on August 25, 2008, 04:36:18 pm: Quote from: Fury on August 25, 2008, 04:12:31 am
...but that doesn't mean there won't be a PC port if the game is a financial success on consoles...

I don't think so. No doubt TFL will be a financial success, but so were the rest of the Rogue Squadron games which weren't ported to the PC.

PC game industry is dying. Consoles are more profitable, it seems.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 25, 2008, 05:19:09 pm: I dont like it...................

PLayed a bit on my bros 360. COmpletely linear with oh so mundane combat and the FOrce doesn't feel very "force"ful..
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Post by: Topgun on August 25, 2008, 05:21:32 pm: SWTFU
hehe...
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 25, 2008, 07:47:01 pm: Quote from: Topgun on August 25, 2008, 05:21:32 pm
SWTFU
hehe...
It had to happen.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 25, 2008, 07:54:15 pm: Yes it did. Still shiny crap though.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2008, 08:56:39 am: Quote from: Al Tarket on August 25, 2008, 03:54:25 am
i have looked around and according to the the main force unleaded site and wiki its not ported to pc, so it was a blatant lie. i said before some reply, so they ignoring pc, nitendo and wii? where someone answer to all of the above.

You're like the new Takashi! But without his occasional pangs of self-awareness!

I didn't actually enjoy the demo all that much. It kept reminding me of Jedi Outcast, which had almost all the same force powers (excepting the material-deformation physics and the Euphoria AI.) Yet Jedi Outcast was more satisfying and fun.

And the lightsaber combat wasn't as good, either.
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Post by: Vidmaster on August 26, 2008, 09:03:40 am: disappointing :sigh:

Felt like a broken Devil May Cry Clone (Camera sucks and there is neither a possibility to evade fire properly nor can you deflect Blaster Shots properly, although I think it's possible to upgrade that ability in the full game), lightsaber combat is totally unrewarding and weak (almost unnecessary), AI is stupid and the list goes on...

Will still buy the game (->story) but not now, maybe when it's down to 25 bucks.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 26, 2008, 09:50:23 pm: It's just a demo, right? The full version maybe better.
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Post by: Vidmaster on August 27, 2008, 08:26:20 am: I doubt that the full version has another camera or lightsaber system pal :lol:

you can judge by the gameplay videos that the demo was a pretty good indication how the game plays out.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 27, 2008, 11:57:04 am: Yea true that. But I can hope the PC controls are better! :p
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Post by: Marcus Vesper on August 27, 2008, 12:30:05 pm: This cartoon (http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/2008-05-14.aspx) effectively killed any interest in this title as a PC gamer, because the first panel is TRUE. That's probably the worst reasoning I've ever heard for not releasing a game on the PC.
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Post by: Vidmaster on August 27, 2008, 12:36:59 pm: wont be coming to PC. Believe me. Do you really think they bring it to every god-damn system out there (including DS :confused:) but the PC, just to release it on PC later?
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Post by: Flipside on August 31, 2008, 04:12:47 pm: Quote from: TopAce on August 25, 2008, 04:36:18 pm
Quote from: Fury on August 25, 2008, 04:12:31 am
...but that doesn't mean there won't be a PC port if the game is a financial success on consoles...

I don't think so. No doubt TFL will be a financial success, but so were the rest of the Rogue Squadron games which weren't ported to the PC.

PC game industry is dying. Consoles are more profitable, it seems.

Rogue Squadron was released, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 were only for the Gamecube, they didn't come out of the PS or XBox either.

A lot of console fans want to believe the PC gaming is dead, it isn't, it isn't even close to dead, in fact, including the MMO market, the PC Sector makes more money than any console.

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wont be coming to PC. Believe me. Do you really think they bring it to every god-damn system out there (including DS ) but the PC, just to release it on PC later?

Exactly like Rockstar did with GTA4 you mean?
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Post by: Stormkeeper on August 31, 2008, 08:07:40 pm: RTS games also kinda belong on PC, at least for now. While Universe at War had an excellent RTS control scheme for console, it also had a small variety of units. Its difficult for RTSes to be played on consoles, at least at this point in time, simply due to their lack of a quick pointing device. Although my eye is on End War to see how their voice command scheme plays out.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 01, 2008, 09:44:40 am: Tiberian Wars handled it quite well :p
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Post by: Flipside on September 01, 2008, 10:13:11 am: I suppose one of the reasons I prefer concept of the Wii over other consoles is the fact that, whilst a gamepad is no match for a mouse, the Wii controller at least gives that kind of level of 'freedom' in your motion.
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Post by: Stormkeeper on September 01, 2008, 10:36:43 am: Quote from: Flipside on September 01, 2008, 10:13:11 am
I suppose one of the reasons I prefer concept of the Wii over other consoles is the fact that, whilst a gamepad is no match for a mouse, the Wii controller at least gives that kind of level of 'freedom' in your motion.
Yea. If the Wii's hardware was more powerful, it might be a legit 3rd gen RTS contender.
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Post by: Vidmaster on September 01, 2008, 02:06:33 pm: Quote from: Flipside on August 31, 2008, 04:12:47 pm
Exactly like Rockstar did with GTA4 you mean?

yeah, GTA4 is on every system sure :rolleyes:

There is a huge difference between:
GTA4: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
SW-FU: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation Portable, Nintendo DS, second-generation N-Gage, iPhone, mobile phone, and PlayStation 2 :blah:
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Post by: Flipside on September 01, 2008, 02:15:09 pm: It's also listed for other consoles, and the PC, that's the entire point. Just because LucasArts don't have an identical release method doesn't mean that it is not only common, it's almost expected for PC Releases to appear some time after a console release.
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Post by: Vidmaster on September 03, 2008, 11:11:01 am: you wanna bet :lol: ?

hey, this looks actually a LOT better:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39380.html
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Demo
Post by: Flipside on September 04, 2008, 06:46:29 am: Quote
you wanna bet ?

:rolleyes:

I don't need to bet, it's historically true, regardless of whether the Force Unleashed comes out for PC or not. If it doesn't, then it doesn't, that will not change the fact that PC versions come out after the console releases of console games. Makes sense really.

LucasArts may not release the game for PC, though I do suspect they will buckle to pressure in the end, since they have a 360 version, the conversion isn't nearly as difficult as from some other platforms, and I've never known LucasArts turn their nose up at a profit opportunity, but it's always a possibility, but that wasn't what I was saying.