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Title: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 01, 2009, 04:04:36 pm
Sync or Transcend? Which and why?
Vote and discuss.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on February 01, 2009, 04:08:02 pm
Transcend. Simply creepier. Sync was good, very good, but I liked Transcend even more. My joystick was all wet when I finished that last mission. Cold sweat.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 01, 2009, 04:27:47 pm
Transcend.

Incomparable atmosphere. Genuinely scary at points in a way that mainstream games like FEAR aren't.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: azile0 on February 01, 2009, 04:44:21 pm
My computer couldn't finish Sync. It crashed a few missions in. So, Transcend. When the Raven pursues you out of insanity, I was freaked out. That last mission, where that damned Transcendent takes all of your wingmen, and then causes hell for you to kill him, really had a sense of epic. But I never understood the point of the VERY last scene, where you're back at the beginning.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Rhymes on February 01, 2009, 04:51:50 pm

Easily Transcend.  The first mission where the Transcendant shows up nearly gave me a heart attack.  Sync had me kinda getting a little bored as I waited for characters to stop talking so we could jump out, but Transcend was AWESOME.

BTW:

My computer couldn't finish Sync. It crashed a few missions in. So, Transcend. When the Raven pursues you out of insanity, I was freaked out. That last mission, where that damned Transcendent takes all of your wingmen, and then causes hell for you to kill him, really had a sense of epic. But I never understood the point of the VERY last scene, where you're back at the beginning.

Hint:  dig in your Transcend folder for a movie.  It should be in the data/movies subfolder. Watch it, and then the last misson makes sense.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: azile0 on February 01, 2009, 06:47:56 pm
Ahhh, it all makes sense, now. Since you killed the Transcendent, it goes back in time to where it no longer had any influence, and so the last mission has an alternate ending than the first... I get it.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Rodo on February 01, 2009, 07:02:05 pm
Transcend... a million times more.

Sync didn't quite make it for me... was like... any other campaign.

You can tell the work that's gone to the entire campaign just playing at it... Sync didn't fell that much elavorated as Transcend.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: GTSVA on February 01, 2009, 07:44:46 pm
Same for whatever...Transcend..Sync Crashzors meh
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 01, 2009, 09:06:36 pm
Sync is good, Transcend, even better. Transcend actually succeeded in FREAKING ME OUT, which in 20 years no game or movie has EVER done.
Even after eight go-throughs of the campaign I still get chills down my spine when I hear the Transcendant breathe or speak.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 01, 2009, 09:09:21 pm
Seems like I'm the only person here that likes Sync over Transcend.  :nervous:
I prefer the plot of Sync over Transcend not to mention that most of the missions in Transcend is racing from one point to a jump node, although admittedly Transcend actually made me flinch at the recording revealed mission.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 01, 2009, 09:50:41 pm
Transcend actually made me flinch at the recording revealed mission.
That part...made me feel cold while at the same time feeling like I was on fire
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Droid803 on February 01, 2009, 10:36:26 pm
I can't compare as I haven't played Sync yet...
...but shouldn't this be in missions and campaigns?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 01, 2009, 10:50:55 pm
Maybe, but the description of Missions and Campaigns is for releases and works in progress. This is just talking about two campaigns that have been released long ago. :D
In a literate sense. ;7
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 02, 2009, 12:02:08 am
For me, Sync had at least a little thing to "hold on": the point when you get back to GTVA space when the Shivans come. Transcend has nothing like that - you MUST "fly" with the story.

In what Sync - I'd say - is seriously better than Transcend is the characters. The characters are much more detailed. For me, Transcend - of coure the story made it necessary - was a bit repetitve some times. You see, if capships are engaging each other and we're running for a node, then why do we have to stop and kill a GODDAMN FIGHTER WING? So useless, in my point of view.

I won't say that any of them is bad, I'd gave Sync 9/10, and Transcend 8/10. But, still, this is only my opinion.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 02, 2009, 03:13:08 am
But the one thing that Transcend improved from Sync is that Alpha 1 is actually a main character now - which is quite necessary in that sort of plot. Alpha 1 being just "Alpha 1" in Sync is my only true complaint.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 02, 2009, 03:28:04 am
I dunno about you guys, but the second last mission of Transcend kinda pissed me off, and almost had me yelling "WHY WON'T YOU DIE! GRRRR! I'LL TEACH YOU TO HAVE INCREASED HITPOINTS!" the mission in subspace that is. Other than that, I finished it in an afternoon waiting for a party and it was pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: shiv on February 02, 2009, 03:51:30 am
Transcaned. Why?
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Incomparable atmosphere. Genuinely scary at points in a way that mainstream games like FEAR aren't.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: GTSVA on February 02, 2009, 06:26:14 am
Woo Derelict! :P
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Tantalus53 on February 02, 2009, 06:32:07 am
Transcend definitely. It was genuinely frightening. I remember my little sister walking into the room during one of the messages from the Transcendent and she ran away screaming about monsters. And it actualy got me thinking that the GTF Pegasus was /dangerous/.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: GTSVA on February 02, 2009, 06:53:38 am
Transcend definitely. It was genuinely frightening. I remember my little sister walking into the room during one of the messages from the Transcendent and she ran away screaming about monsters. And it actualy got me thinking that the GTF Pegasus was /dangerous/.

I'm gonna play this again...
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: nvsblmnc on February 02, 2009, 07:08:23 am
Gotta be Transcend.  The best moment for me was the choice of music in the final battle. 

As good as Silent Hill 2 was, "Betrayal" was wasted on it.  Transcend made it work brilliantly.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Charismatic on February 02, 2009, 12:13:28 pm
Where's the smugglepuffs?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: IronBeer on February 02, 2009, 03:51:57 pm
Transcend. But not by much. Some of the fighting seemed almost contrived, but any part involving the Transcendent more than makes up for that. Sync was an excellent campaign as well; I just don't think it's as awesome as Transcend. That said- the part where Beta 4 (?) randomly decides to fly off while spouting cryptic things: "To run from death is to invite destruction." then promptly gets freaking beamed to dust (!!!). That is a Freespace moment I'll never forget.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Fenrir on February 02, 2009, 07:05:43 pm
Indeed. It's more memorable for me in that I got vaporized along with Beta 4 the first time I played.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Retsof on February 02, 2009, 07:23:23 pm
Trancend, mostly for the point that A1 is a charicter.  Sync still left me screaming for a sequel though.

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Indeed. It's more memorable for me in that I got vaporized along with Beta 4 the first time I played.
I was right next to him, so, though I didn't die, it was a major :eek: moment.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on February 03, 2009, 01:22:19 am
Me too. He wasn't moving, so I tried to take a peek inside his cockpit. You can imagine that beam scared the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: GTSVA on February 03, 2009, 05:49:13 am
Looks like Sync got another vote!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 03, 2009, 06:27:09 am
Looks like Sync got another vote!

Sorry, my bad

I clicked Vote assuming Transcend was the default option while drinking a glass of water.

You can imagine my :wtf: when I saw Sync bolded  :D

Not saying it isn't good, because it is, but it just made me feel like "Okay Dilmah, you've gotta' make it through, this isn't a game anymore. Find that transcendant, and for God's sake, TURN YOUR BLOODY SPEAKERS DOWN!"  :lol:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 03, 2009, 10:05:39 am
Looks like Sync got another vote!

Mumbling about voting

You can change your vote.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: azile0 on February 03, 2009, 11:09:47 am
The Transcendent scared the blinking hell out of me. *STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Charismatic on February 03, 2009, 11:57:57 am
Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 03, 2009, 12:02:57 pm
Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.

*headdesk*

Fail.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Sololop on February 03, 2009, 12:55:34 pm
Just finished Transcend. Quite a mind****, indeed.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Snail on February 03, 2009, 01:21:26 pm
Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
Is there something wrong with you?

"Who the hell is this McCain fellah? Obama, huh? Nice name, sounds familiar. I'll vote for him."
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 03, 2009, 01:35:22 pm
Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.

*headdesk*

Fail.

EPIC fail!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Kszyhu on February 03, 2009, 03:01:04 pm
Transcend.
Spoiler:
When Generation returned from the dead,
I was sure that captain at the comm window smiled maliciously. Pretty disturbing.

Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 03, 2009, 03:24:19 pm
Just finished Transcend. Quite a mind****, indeed.

Did you get to see the cinematic between 'White Noise' and the final mission? Sometimes it doesn't play.

If it didn't, root around in your Transcend directory. It's well worth it.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: GTSVA on February 03, 2009, 05:51:58 pm
Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.

Nani???? Bakayarou!!!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Retsof on February 03, 2009, 07:27:39 pm
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*STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
*static* Can you hear me *static* I can see you *static* help me, help me, help me. *silence* ... PLEASE!

Still gives me shivers.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 03, 2009, 07:51:25 pm
Oh my god...I just played that clip and I can't get rid of this chill in my neck. :lol:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Sololop on February 04, 2009, 12:19:16 am
Did you get to see the cinematic between 'White Noise' and the final mission? Sometimes it doesn't play.

If it didn't, root around in your Transcend directory. It's well worth it.

Nope, didn't see it. Pretty cool... all that played back in one minute.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 04, 2009, 12:25:59 am
So very epic.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 04, 2009, 09:44:54 pm
Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.

I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 05, 2009, 02:00:24 am
Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.

Join the team  :)
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 05, 2009, 02:10:57 am
Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.

I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".

can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
Spoiler:
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 05, 2009, 02:12:39 am
Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.

I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".

can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
Spoiler:
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.

Ohhhhhhhhh, now his post makes sense. I thought he was referring to Sync
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Alpha0 on February 05, 2009, 08:04:28 am
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*STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
*static* Can you hear me *static* I can see you *static* help me, help me, help me. *silence* ... PLEASE!

Still gives me shivers.

Same here. I will never forget that moment. Just after the help me part ended, with me already freaked out beyond recognition, a few moments of silence and then the loud static PLEASE. That just finished me off right there.

So, yes, it is Transcend. Best campaign ever made for Freespace 2 as far as I am concerned.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: azile0 on February 05, 2009, 10:08:54 am
There are few games that can seriously affect your mind. And this is just a MOD for a game. I wish my computer would get it's head out of it's engines and start working again so I can play with MediaVPs.

I'm going to have to download Transcend on my current computer, just so I can rout around the
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Ziame on February 05, 2009, 12:11:28 pm
NAO! These two campaigns can't be compared!

Trascend is pure mind****, with creeps eating your back and neighbours shouting "SHUT THE HELL UP!!!". I played "The Suffering", "F.E.A.R."s, "Silent Hill 2&3", but the shout OMGWTFMUMMY!!! only happened when playing Transcend.

On the other leg, head or whatever, Sync got me trapped in "hmm wtf is happening guyz" and after that, I wanted to ask these scientists "Excuse me, wtf were u doin?", and the ending of Sync is pretty nasty too. My dad was an observer when I played whole Sync, and when it was finished he said "Well, they're ****ed".

Overall:
Sync:
Gameplay 8/10
climax 9/10
story 10/10
graphics - well, mediavps rock so 120837129738/10

Transcend:
Gameplay 6/10 (the "OMG LETS GO TO DE NOD" syndrome ...)
Climax 11/10 (pure horror/thriller)
Story 9/10 (Overall, COOL AND I LOVED IT, but... well, that's NOT gonna happen. I hope. I think.)
graphics - as above

Sync gets a bonus for "Am watching beta 4, and u r firing, not good!! Get these lazors awaaaay", and Transcend gets a bonus for "omg epic moments, you're a really master Flinstoner FREDder"

Wow long post, cheers guys, and I hope Transcend gets you
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: ShadowGorrath on February 05, 2009, 12:24:34 pm
Transcend and Sync are almost equal to me, from my point of view. But I enjoyed Transcend more. Especially
Spoiler:
the second Terran-Vasudan War :P

So my vote goes to Transcend.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 05, 2009, 12:51:36 pm
Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.

I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".

can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
Spoiler:
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.

Okay, last MISSION, but what happened in the final mission wasn't what spun me for a loop. It was the exact last second of gameplay before the mission ended.

Spoiler:
Everything vanished. Did that mean that the player became the next Transcendent?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 05, 2009, 01:12:55 pm
Already answered, no. Things begin to become normal.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: redsniper on February 05, 2009, 01:48:17 pm
I think I need to play both of these again. The last fight against the Transcendant was pretty sweet though. No shields. No targeting. No radar signature. FINAL DESTINATION!

But Sync was cool too, from what I remember, and it's only the first chapter whereas Transcend is a complete story. All I really remember from Sync, is that early on you download some encrypted data from another fighter which has yet to be explained, and that you and your buddies get back to GTVA space right around the end of the second Shivan invasion, except it was different somehow... yeah I should play Sync again.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 06, 2009, 01:40:33 am
I think I need to play both of these again. The last fight against the Transcendant was pretty sweet though. No shields. No targeting. No radar signature. FINAL DESTINATION!

Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission.  :eek2:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Ziame on February 06, 2009, 03:22:21 am
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Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission.  :eek2:

Affirmative. I had to lift my hand of the joy with a crowbar.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 06, 2009, 03:24:45 am
Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission.  :eek2:

Not really. My ending time was 13 minutes, very short compared to some Homesick missions I played . . .
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 06, 2009, 05:18:11 am
13 minutes drags on in my part. :nervous:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 06, 2009, 05:48:24 am
13 minutes drags on in my part. :nervous:

Same, especially if it's just wrenching the stick after something that JUST WONT DIE! GAAAARGH!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on February 06, 2009, 11:48:02 am
I did over 20 minutes on that one, IIRC :nervous:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: DarthWang on February 08, 2009, 03:29:32 am
Transcend - more epic, creepy, and a better plot
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 08, 2009, 03:42:22 am
Definitely on the epic and creepiness for Transcend - but the plot with Sync was far more engaging. Sync had more indepth characters with various characters writing their journals while Transcend, although having characters were too shallow on their backgrounds and feelings at the time.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Ziame on February 08, 2009, 06:24:31 am
Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!


Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 08, 2009, 06:58:16 am
Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!


Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die!

Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself  ;)
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 08, 2009, 10:46:22 am
Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!


Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die!

Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself  ;)

Dibs on Kappa 1. =D
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Retsof on February 08, 2009, 10:36:37 pm
Quote
Quote from: Transcendentant
Quote
This is your time, to die![/
quote]
I thought it was the Sync line "It's not my time to die"
Or when you have to shoot your wingmates: "Dosen't that ... bother you?"
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: ssmit132 on February 09, 2009, 01:51:37 am
No, in Sync they were:

Quote from: Phi 4 (To Run from Death...)
Typical bloody mercs. Doesn't his death bother you?
Quote from: Alpha 3 (Darkness Spreading)
No, damn it! We don't want to die! Not yet! Not like this! It isn't our time to die!
I really need to continue with Transcend! I started it, but I haven't got very far on it. I've not been playing FreeSpace 2 often lately.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 09, 2009, 02:21:37 am
Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!


Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die!

Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself  ;)

Dibs on Kappa 1. =D

 :D
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 09, 2009, 01:36:46 pm
Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!


Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die!

Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself  ;)

Dibs on Kappa 1. =D

 :D

I have a habit of reading everything aloud during campaigns that haven't been voiceacted yet, and when I was reading for Kappa 1, it felt kind of natural, especially in the log entries. ^^
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Fenrir on February 09, 2009, 01:51:20 pm
I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 09, 2009, 02:03:24 pm
I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.

That voice only comes along once and nobody's talking while it's going on. It'll be suitable to put in voice acting. It would sure break up the monotony of the missions, at the least.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Dilmah G on February 10, 2009, 01:39:11 am
I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.

That voice only comes along once and nobody's talking while it's going on. It'll be suitable to put in voice acting. It would sure break up the monotony of the missions, at the least.

True, especially if Microsoft Sam/Anna seems to like destroying the mood on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: DarthWang on February 10, 2009, 11:04:36 am
I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"

Does anyone have a transcript of it?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Romanmolf on February 10, 2009, 11:10:10 am
I vote Transcend.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Nuclear1 on February 10, 2009, 08:31:48 pm
Sync had some really fun moments...
Spoiler:
Finding the two Phi fighters that didn't follow the Persistence was creepy, so was Beta 2 or 4 throughout the campaign.

But Transcend still wins.

Spoiler:
The Generation is what sold me.

"Get out of my way!"
"No! They are mine!"
"You can never escape your sins!"

And finally...
"Memories never die."
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: ssmit132 on February 11, 2009, 02:06:42 am
I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"

Does anyone have a transcript of it?
VasudanS: :p

Quote
Sadjin: This is the end, Terran.
Reitsek: You shall not pass.
Sadjin: Cease in your path.
Reitsek: It is not too late.
Sadjin: You must halt your interference.
Reitsek: It is the death of your own species which guides you.
Sadjin: This is the end.
Reitsek: You're out of time.
Yes, I'm good at digging through mission files. :nod:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 13, 2009, 09:59:55 am
Everyone has a limit... just to resurrect this topic.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 20, 2009, 11:11:49 am
Any news of "Sync 2"?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Mobius on February 20, 2009, 11:17:44 am
Sync 2?

Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 20, 2009, 11:21:38 am
Sync 2?

Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.


That's why I wrote it with ""-s. I mentioned that Sync was/is meant to be a trilogy if I know well. Is this Project 3 a new story or a continuation?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Rhymes on February 20, 2009, 04:18:48 pm
Sync 2?

Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.


RANSOM, Mobius!  RANSOM!
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: CKid on February 20, 2009, 04:32:47 pm
That's why I wrote it with ""-s. I mentioned that Sync was/is meant to be a trilogy if I know well. Is this Project 3 a new story or a continuation?

Project 3 is a new storyline and has no relation to Sync or Transcend.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 20, 2009, 04:57:48 pm
Really? It's still set in the same universe no?
The only real relation I can think of with Sync to Transcend is in the briefing of one of the final missions - something about Marcel being a merc in the past. Perhaps its going to be like that.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 20, 2009, 05:52:32 pm
What about the Syrk Sync trilogy then?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: CKid on February 21, 2009, 09:27:40 am
Ransom said that after Project 3 he would start Sync 2, but that was awhile ago and I don't know if that is still the case.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 22, 2009, 09:14:52 am
I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"

Does anyone have a transcript of it?
VasudanS: :p

Quote
Sadjin: This is the end, Terran.
Reitsek: You shall not pass.
Sadjin: Cease in your path.
Reitsek: It is not too late.
Sadjin: You must halt your interference.
Reitsek: It is the death of your own species which guides you.
Sadjin: This is the end.
Reitsek: You're out of time.
Yes, I'm good at digging through mission files. :nod:

I'd love to know what are the name of ships in the Transcend campaign what the Transcendant shows to us? (in the blue nebulae, when the pirate ship is with us)
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Nuclear1 on February 22, 2009, 05:20:27 pm
Are you talking about...
Spoiler:
the mission right before the subspace finale? Those are the two Pi fighters that tried to jump away before the Sync drive activated in Capella, then the whole Sync crew, then the major ships that have died in Transcend, including, ominously, you and all of Omicron wing.

But if you're talking about...
Spoiler:
the missions with the Chondral, it only shows itself and the Chondral being taken.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 23, 2009, 12:20:01 am
Are you talking about...
Spoiler:
the mission right before the subspace finale? Those are the two Pi fighters that tried to jump away before the Sync drive activated in Capella, then the whole Sync crew, then the major ships that have died in Transcend, including, ominously, you and all of Omicron wing.

But if you're talking about...
Spoiler:
the missions with the Chondral, it only shows itself and the Chondral being taken.

I know what happens there :), but I'd like to know how are the ships called in the FRED files  ;7.
By the way, I was talking about the first one.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2009, 09:36:19 am
I played Sync first and decided to play Transcend after reading this topic.
I liked the story of Sync more, it kept me playing. Transcend has way too much "There's a node, here are some cap ships, kill some fighters, run." missions. Eventually I just started longing for the parts with the creepy voice.

The subspace final for me was incredibly epic. After shooting down the first transcend plane I was relaxing my fingers "hurrah, finally got the bastard" then the next one showed up and scrambled back to my controls. Only had 3% hull left, I lost sight of it when it flew behind the ever presistant "Even in death I still serve" Generation then the node started to collapse and the second plane jumped out but a third one came in (hell, it might just have been the same transcend over and over again) and it crashed straight into me.
The node started tobecome white, the transcended was exploding and I was watching my death scene, in slow mo!

And then I was straight back at the beginning of the story
If I didn't knew better, i'd say it was scripted.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 26, 2009, 11:50:40 am
Did you get to see the ending movie?
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 26, 2009, 12:06:18 pm
Doubt it. :D
I've only seen it on YouTube... :nervous:

Wait...yay high quality video!
Oh ****... :shaking: chill in spine's back...
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2009, 12:36:17 pm
Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continueing on to the next level.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 26, 2009, 12:38:59 pm
Mission failure? :wtf:
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Lucika on February 26, 2009, 02:52:18 pm
Any info of Poject 3? (storyline eyecandy, approximate release date...?)
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: General Battuta on February 26, 2009, 03:19:39 pm
Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continueing on to the next level.

Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.

It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Spoon on February 26, 2009, 04:44:23 pm
Mission failure? :wtf:
yeah since I crashed into transcend at the last possible moment.  But after showing the menu for 1-2 seconds the game loaded the next mission. After clicking Commit It still showed the 'death menu' though. So I actually had to press quick start to start playing the last mission heh

Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.

It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
Looked it up on youtube. Movie it self was nicely done. But I didn't needed to understand what was going on. I must admit I was kinda expecting it to end this way. Still very nice though.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Rhymes on February 26, 2009, 09:42:16 pm
Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continuing on to the next level.

Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.

It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.

You're half-right.  The Sunder vs. Transcendant mission is White Noise, but the last is actually called "Transcendence"
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: FoxtrotTango on February 26, 2009, 11:14:13 pm
Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continuing on to the next level.

Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.

It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.

You're half-right.  The Sunder vs. Transcendant mission is White Noise, but the last is actually called "Transcendence"

I still say that full second or two where everything vanished is a clue that everything didn't really end the way that people think it did. The spoiler below contains my full theories.

Spoiler:
The events which transpired around the Transcendant were his memories repeating as his strength grew. After he was killed, everything was reversed, but we couldn't exactly say for sure if he was slain or not. Those two seconds of nonexistence before the campaign's end lead me to believe that after Sunder destroyed the Transcendant, he became one himself. The Transcendant wanted to be freed from his state, and only Sunder truly understood him. Perhaps Sunder Marcel inherited that indescribable power and is now reliving his own memories...

Yes, nobody asked for my theories, but I thought I should get them out there anyhow.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: eliex on February 27, 2009, 01:14:31 am
Spoiler:
I agree with your theory but I am led to believe that the Transcend was finally killed in White Noise - as the final Pegasus dies, it is emphasized that the Transcendant is killed by the time compression being sent to 0.01 at the moment the Pegasus explodes. Also note that the previous Pegasus attacking Marcel only disappeared not exploded when you defeat them.[spoiler/]e that everything didn't really end the way that people think it did. The spoiler below contains my full theories.

Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Commander Zane on February 27, 2009, 02:49:29 am
But other than...
Spoiler:
Seeing the Transcendant flash at the very end
Would that hold any significance other than making me wig out?


Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: Rhymes on February 27, 2009, 08:06:07 pm
That last appearance of the Transcendant in the movie was probably meant to suggest that what you see in the cutscene was a sort of "thank-you" present for Sunder.
Spoiler:
Remember, time rewinds itself, but in the "Transcendence" version of the first mission, Omicron never shows up. 
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: azile0 on March 01, 2009, 01:56:16 am
I played through Sync and Transcend again today..


Sync's thoughts:
Spoiler:
Sync made me feel hunted. But the only problem I have with the "Splinter Vasudans" is that they had the same tech as the main Vasudans. Unless I missed something. And the thought that YOU in Sync caused the next Shivan Incursion, then being used AGAIN, was a really good twist.
"Have we doomed humanity?"
"Yes, I think we have."


Transcend:
Spoiler:
Transcend is the biggest mind**** that I've played. If anybody knows of similar mindscrews, please share them. Transcend did get slightly repetitive, but it was not boring at all. Having to constantly dodge AAA, fighters and flak is no feat of amateur skill. This campaign got me my Triple Ace. The Transcendent was just as scary as ever. And playing Sync right before Transcend helped me UNDERSTAND it. I've little doubt that poor, beam-vaped Beta 2 is the Transcendent.
"The one who went beyond our world, and into the darkness. He relives his last living memories..."
The nebula that shifts between red and blue is his last memory.
Title: Re: Sync vs. Transcend
Post by: ssmit132 on March 01, 2009, 03:35:05 am
Spoiler:
"Have we doomed humanity?"
"Yes, I think we have."
Spoiler:
What was annoying was that Alpha 2 was optimistic all the time before then. Also, what Sathanas that was supposed to be - I mean, it couldn't of been the first, or, really, the first of the others - they all came in through Gamma Draconis, and where the ending was situatied.