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Sync or Transcend? Which and why?
Vote and discuss.
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Transcend. Simply creepier. Sync was good, very good, but I liked Transcend even more. My joystick was all wet when I finished that last mission. Cold sweat.
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Transcend.
Incomparable atmosphere. Genuinely scary at points in a way that mainstream games like FEAR aren't.
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My computer couldn't finish Sync. It crashed a few missions in. So, Transcend. When the Raven pursues you out of insanity, I was freaked out. That last mission, where that damned Transcendent takes all of your wingmen, and then causes hell for you to kill him, really had a sense of epic. But I never understood the point of the VERY last scene, where you're back at the beginning.
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Easily Transcend. The first mission where the Transcendant shows up nearly gave me a heart attack. Sync had me kinda getting a little bored as I waited for characters to stop talking so we could jump out, but Transcend was AWESOME.
BTW:
My computer couldn't finish Sync. It crashed a few missions in. So, Transcend. When the Raven pursues you out of insanity, I was freaked out. That last mission, where that damned Transcendent takes all of your wingmen, and then causes hell for you to kill him, really had a sense of epic. But I never understood the point of the VERY last scene, where you're back at the beginning.
Hint: dig in your Transcend folder for a movie. It should be in the data/movies subfolder. Watch it, and then the last misson makes sense.
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Ahhh, it all makes sense, now. Since you killed the Transcendent, it goes back in time to where it no longer had any influence, and so the last mission has an alternate ending than the first... I get it.
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Transcend... a million times more.
Sync didn't quite make it for me... was like... any other campaign.
You can tell the work that's gone to the entire campaign just playing at it... Sync didn't fell that much elavorated as Transcend.
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Same for whatever...Transcend..Sync Crashzors meh
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Sync is good, Transcend, even better. Transcend actually succeeded in FREAKING ME OUT, which in 20 years no game or movie has EVER done.
Even after eight go-throughs of the campaign I still get chills down my spine when I hear the Transcendant breathe or speak.
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Seems like I'm the only person here that likes Sync over Transcend. :nervous:
I prefer the plot of Sync over Transcend not to mention that most of the missions in Transcend is racing from one point to a jump node, although admittedly Transcend actually made me flinch at the recording revealed mission.
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Transcend actually made me flinch at the recording revealed mission.
That part...made me feel cold while at the same time feeling like I was on fire
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I can't compare as I haven't played Sync yet...
...but shouldn't this be in missions and campaigns?
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Maybe, but the description of Missions and Campaigns is for releases and works in progress. This is just talking about two campaigns that have been released long ago. :D
In a literate sense. ;7
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For me, Sync had at least a little thing to "hold on": the point when you get back to GTVA space when the Shivans come. Transcend has nothing like that - you MUST "fly" with the story.
In what Sync - I'd say - is seriously better than Transcend is the characters. The characters are much more detailed. For me, Transcend - of coure the story made it necessary - was a bit repetitve some times. You see, if capships are engaging each other and we're running for a node, then why do we have to stop and kill a GODDAMN FIGHTER WING? So useless, in my point of view.
I won't say that any of them is bad, I'd gave Sync 9/10, and Transcend 8/10. But, still, this is only my opinion.
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But the one thing that Transcend improved from Sync is that Alpha 1 is actually a main character now - which is quite necessary in that sort of plot. Alpha 1 being just "Alpha 1" in Sync is my only true complaint.
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I dunno about you guys, but the second last mission of Transcend kinda pissed me off, and almost had me yelling "WHY WON'T YOU DIE! GRRRR! I'LL TEACH YOU TO HAVE INCREASED HITPOINTS!" the mission in subspace that is. Other than that, I finished it in an afternoon waiting for a party and it was pretty interesting.
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Transcaned. Why?
Incomparable atmosphere. Genuinely scary at points in a way that mainstream games like FEAR aren't.
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Woo Derelict! :P
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Transcend definitely. It was genuinely frightening. I remember my little sister walking into the room during one of the messages from the Transcendent and she ran away screaming about monsters. And it actualy got me thinking that the GTF Pegasus was /dangerous/.
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Transcend definitely. It was genuinely frightening. I remember my little sister walking into the room during one of the messages from the Transcendent and she ran away screaming about monsters. And it actualy got me thinking that the GTF Pegasus was /dangerous/.
I'm gonna play this again...
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Gotta be Transcend. The best moment for me was the choice of music in the final battle.
As good as Silent Hill 2 was, "Betrayal" was wasted on it. Transcend made it work brilliantly.
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Where's the smugglepuffs?
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Transcend. But not by much. Some of the fighting seemed almost contrived, but any part involving the Transcendent more than makes up for that. Sync was an excellent campaign as well; I just don't think it's as awesome as Transcend. That said- the part where Beta 4 (?) randomly decides to fly off while spouting cryptic things: "To run from death is to invite destruction." then promptly gets freaking beamed to dust (!!!). That is a Freespace moment I'll never forget.
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Indeed. It's more memorable for me in that I got vaporized along with Beta 4 the first time I played.
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Trancend, mostly for the point that A1 is a charicter. Sync still left me screaming for a sequel though.
Indeed. It's more memorable for me in that I got vaporized along with Beta 4 the first time I played.
I was right next to him, so, though I didn't die, it was a major :eek: moment.
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Me too. He wasn't moving, so I tried to take a peek inside his cockpit. You can imagine that beam scared the hell out of me.
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Looks like Sync got another vote!
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Looks like Sync got another vote!
Sorry, my bad
I clicked Vote assuming Transcend was the default option while drinking a glass of water.
You can imagine my :wtf: when I saw Sync bolded :D
Not saying it isn't good, because it is, but it just made me feel like "Okay Dilmah, you've gotta' make it through, this isn't a game anymore. Find that transcendant, and for God's sake, TURN YOUR BLOODY SPEAKERS DOWN!" :lol:
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Looks like Sync got another vote!
Mumbling about voting
You can change your vote.
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The Transcendent scared the blinking hell out of me. *STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
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Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
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Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
*headdesk*
Fail.
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Just finished Transcend. Quite a mind****, indeed.
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Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
Is there something wrong with you?
"Who the hell is this McCain fellah? Obama, huh? Nice name, sounds familiar. I'll vote for him."
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Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
*headdesk*
Fail.
EPIC fail!
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Transcend.
When Generation returned from the dead,
I was sure that captain at the comm window smiled maliciously. Pretty disturbing.
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Just finished Transcend. Quite a mind****, indeed.
Did you get to see the cinematic between 'White Noise' and the final mission? Sometimes it doesn't play.
If it didn't, root around in your Transcend directory. It's well worth it.
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Fine, i randomly vote for the S one. Havent played either tho.
Nani???? Bakayarou!!!
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*STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
*static* Can you hear me *static* I can see you *static* help me, help me, help me. *silence* ... PLEASE!
Still gives me shivers.
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Oh my god...I just played that clip and I can't get rid of this chill in my neck. :lol:
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Did you get to see the cinematic between 'White Noise' and the final mission? Sometimes it doesn't play.
If it didn't, root around in your Transcend directory. It's well worth it.
Nope, didn't see it. Pretty cool... all that played back in one minute.
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So very epic.
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Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.
I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
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Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.
Join the team :)
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Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.
I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".
can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.
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Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.
I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".
can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.
Ohhhhhhhhh, now his post makes sense. I thought he was referring to Sync
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*STATIC GARBLE* "THERE'S SOMETHING STRANGE ABOUT THIS PLACE" *GARBLE*
*static* Can you hear me *static* I can see you *static* help me, help me, help me. *silence* ... PLEASE!
Still gives me shivers.
Same here. I will never forget that moment. Just after the help me part ended, with me already freaked out beyond recognition, a few moments of silence and then the loud static PLEASE. That just finished me off right there.
So, yes, it is Transcend. Best campaign ever made for Freespace 2 as far as I am concerned.
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There are few games that can seriously affect your mind. And this is just a MOD for a game. I wish my computer would get it's head out of it's engines and start working again so I can play with MediaVPs.
I'm going to have to download Transcend on my current computer, just so I can rout around the
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NAO! These two campaigns can't be compared!
Trascend is pure mind****, with creeps eating your back and neighbours shouting "SHUT THE HELL UP!!!". I played "The Suffering", "F.E.A.R."s, "Silent Hill 2&3", but the shout OMGWTFMUMMY!!! only happened when playing Transcend.
On the other leg, head or whatever, Sync got me trapped in "hmm wtf is happening guyz" and after that, I wanted to ask these scientists "Excuse me, wtf were u doin?", and the ending of Sync is pretty nasty too. My dad was an observer when I played whole Sync, and when it was finished he said "Well, they're ****ed".
Overall:
Sync:
Gameplay 8/10
climax 9/10
story 10/10
graphics - well, mediavps rock so 120837129738/10
Transcend:
Gameplay 6/10 (the "OMG LETS GO TO DE NOD" syndrome ...)
Climax 11/10 (pure horror/thriller)
Story 9/10 (Overall, COOL AND I LOVED IT, but... well, that's NOT gonna happen. I hope. I think.)
graphics - as above
Sync gets a bonus for "Am watching beta 4, and u r firing, not good!! Get these lazors awaaaay", and Transcend gets a bonus for "omg epic moments, you're a really master Flinstoner FREDder"
Wow long post, cheers guys, and I hope Transcend gets you
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Transcend and Sync are almost equal to me, from my point of view. But I enjoyed Transcend more. Especially
the second Terran-Vasudan War :P
So my vote goes to Transcend.
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Transcend has mindraped me. And I love it.
I'm still confused about what happened in the last campaign, though...
Uh, the word is "mission", not "campaign".
can anyone enlighten me on it? I'm not familiar with this board's spoiler methods.
The Transcendant was finally defeated and as a result the universe was raped back to the way it was before, with our heroes ending up to the point where it all started; the asteroid field.
Okay, last MISSION, but what happened in the final mission wasn't what spun me for a loop. It was the exact last second of gameplay before the mission ended.
Everything vanished. Did that mean that the player became the next Transcendent?
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Already answered, no. Things begin to become normal.
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I think I need to play both of these again. The last fight against the Transcendant was pretty sweet though. No shields. No targeting. No radar signature. FINAL DESTINATION!
But Sync was cool too, from what I remember, and it's only the first chapter whereas Transcend is a complete story. All I really remember from Sync, is that early on you download some encrypted data from another fighter which has yet to be explained, and that you and your buddies get back to GTVA space right around the end of the second Shivan invasion, except it was different somehow... yeah I should play Sync again.
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I think I need to play both of these again. The last fight against the Transcendant was pretty sweet though. No shields. No targeting. No radar signature. FINAL DESTINATION!
Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission. :eek2:
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Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission. :eek2:
Affirmative. I had to lift my hand of the joy with a crowbar.
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Didn't anyone other than me think the last fight with the transcendant lasted too long? I got hand cramps after that mission. :eek2:
Not really. My ending time was 13 minutes, very short compared to some Homesick missions I played . . .
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13 minutes drags on in my part. :nervous:
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13 minutes drags on in my part. :nervous:
Same, especially if it's just wrenching the stick after something that JUST WONT DIE! GAAAARGH!
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I did over 20 minutes on that one, IIRC :nervous:
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Transcend - more epic, creepy, and a better plot
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Definitely on the epic and creepiness for Transcend - but the plot with Sync was far more engaging. Sync had more indepth characters with various characters writing their journals while Transcend, although having characters were too shallow on their backgrounds and feelings at the time.
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Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!
This is your time, to die!
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Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!
This is your time, to die!
Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself ;)
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Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!
This is your time, to die!
Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself ;)
Dibs on Kappa 1. =D
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Quote from: Transcendentant
This is your time, to die![/
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I thought it was the Sync line "It's not my time to die"
Or when you have to shoot your wingmates: "Dosen't that ... bother you?"
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No, in Sync they were:
Typical bloody mercs. Doesn't his death bother you?
No, damn it! We don't want to die! Not yet! Not like this! It isn't our time to die!
I really need to continue with Transcend! I started it, but I haven't got very far on it. I've not been playing FreeSpace 2 often lately.
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Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!
This is your time, to die!
Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself ;)
Dibs on Kappa 1. =D
:D
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Sync and Transcend are IMO two campaigns that need voice acting NOW!
This is your time, to die!
Very True, I'd try to get Transcend voice-acted if I have to manage everything myself ;)
Dibs on Kappa 1. =D
:D
I have a habit of reading everything aloud during campaigns that haven't been voiceacted yet, and when I was reading for Kappa 1, it felt kind of natural, especially in the log entries. ^^
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I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.
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I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.
That voice only comes along once and nobody's talking while it's going on. It'll be suitable to put in voice acting. It would sure break up the monotony of the missions, at the least.
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I think voiceacting might break the mood for Transcend. Half the creepiness is that everything is silent for the most part until suddenly that voice comes along.
That voice only comes along once and nobody's talking while it's going on. It'll be suitable to put in voice acting. It would sure break up the monotony of the missions, at the least.
True, especially if Microsoft Sam/Anna seems to like destroying the mood on a regular basis.
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I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"
Does anyone have a transcript of it?
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I vote Transcend.
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Sync had some really fun moments...
Finding the two Phi fighters that didn't follow the Persistence was creepy, so was Beta 2 or 4 throughout the campaign.
But Transcend still wins.
The Generation is what sold me.
"Get out of my way!"
"No! They are mine!"
"You can never escape your sins!"
And finally...
"Memories never die."
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I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"
Does anyone have a transcript of it?
VasudanS: :p
Sadjin: This is the end, Terran.
Reitsek: You shall not pass.
Sadjin: Cease in your path.
Reitsek: It is not too late.
Sadjin: You must halt your interference.
Reitsek: It is the death of your own species which guides you.
Sadjin: This is the end.
Reitsek: You're out of time.
Yes, I'm good at digging through mission files. :nod:
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Everyone has a limit... just to resurrect this topic.
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Any news of "Sync 2"?
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Sync 2?
Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.
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Sync 2?
Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.
That's why I wrote it with ""-s. I mentioned that Sync was/is meant to be a trilogy if I know well. Is this Project 3 a new story or a continuation?
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Sync 2?
Random is working on a new project whose conditions are very good, but I wouldn't call it "Sync 2". Its current name is "Project 03", but the campaign will surely have an unique name in the future.
RANSOM, Mobius! RANSOM!
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That's why I wrote it with ""-s. I mentioned that Sync was/is meant to be a trilogy if I know well. Is this Project 3 a new story or a continuation?
Project 3 is a new storyline and has no relation to Sync or Transcend.
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Really? It's still set in the same universe no?
The only real relation I can think of with Sync to Transcend is in the briefing of one of the final missions - something about Marcel being a merc in the past. Perhaps its going to be like that.
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What about the
Syrk Sync trilogy then?
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Ransom said that after Project 3 he would start Sync 2, but that was awhile ago and I don't know if that is still the case.
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I do really like the speech the Vasudan makes in Sync ending with "You're out of time"
Does anyone have a transcript of it?
VasudanS: :p
Sadjin: This is the end, Terran.
Reitsek: You shall not pass.
Sadjin: Cease in your path.
Reitsek: It is not too late.
Sadjin: You must halt your interference.
Reitsek: It is the death of your own species which guides you.
Sadjin: This is the end.
Reitsek: You're out of time.
Yes, I'm good at digging through mission files. :nod:
I'd love to know what are the name of ships in the Transcend campaign what the Transcendant shows to us? (in the blue nebulae, when the pirate ship is with us)
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Are you talking about...
the mission right before the subspace finale? Those are the two Pi fighters that tried to jump away before the Sync drive activated in Capella, then the whole Sync crew, then the major ships that have died in Transcend, including, ominously, you and all of Omicron wing.
But if you're talking about...
the missions with the Chondral, it only shows itself and the Chondral being taken.
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Are you talking about...
the mission right before the subspace finale? Those are the two Pi fighters that tried to jump away before the Sync drive activated in Capella, then the whole Sync crew, then the major ships that have died in Transcend, including, ominously, you and all of Omicron wing.
But if you're talking about...
the missions with the Chondral, it only shows itself and the Chondral being taken.
I know what happens there :), but I'd like to know how are the ships called in the FRED files ;7.
By the way, I was talking about the first one.
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I played Sync first and decided to play Transcend after reading this topic.
I liked the story of Sync more, it kept me playing. Transcend has way too much "There's a node, here are some cap ships, kill some fighters, run." missions. Eventually I just started longing for the parts with the creepy voice.
The subspace final for me was incredibly epic. After shooting down the first transcend plane I was relaxing my fingers "hurrah, finally got the bastard" then the next one showed up and scrambled back to my controls. Only had 3% hull left, I lost sight of it when it flew behind the ever presistant "Even in death I still serve" Generation then the node started to collapse and the second plane jumped out but a third one came in (hell, it might just have been the same transcend over and over again) and it crashed straight into me.
The node started tobecome white, the transcended was exploding and I was watching my death scene, in slow mo!
And then I was straight back at the beginning of the story
If I didn't knew better, i'd say it was scripted.
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Did you get to see the ending movie?
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Doubt it. :D
I've only seen it on YouTube... :nervous:
Wait...yay high quality video!
Oh ****... :shaking: chill in spine's back...
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Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continueing on to the next level.
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Mission failure? :wtf:
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Any info of Poject 3? (storyline eyecandy, approximate release date...?)
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Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continueing on to the next level.
Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.
It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
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Mission failure? :wtf:
yeah since I crashed into transcend at the last possible moment. But after showing the menu for 1-2 seconds the game loaded the next mission. After clicking Commit It still showed the 'death menu' though. So I actually had to press quick start to start playing the last mission heh
Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.
It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
Looked it up on youtube. Movie it self was nicely done. But I didn't needed to understand what was going on. I must admit I was kinda expecting it to end this way. Still very nice though.
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Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continuing on to the next level.
Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.
It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
You're half-right. The Sunder vs. Transcendant mission is White Noise, but the last is actually called "Transcendence"
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Did you get to see the ending movie?
Don't think I saw anything like that. Cause it actually showed the "quick start, return to briefing, return to flight deck" menu before continuing on to the next level.
Check out your Transcend folder. There should be a file in there. Play it using VLC or another good media player, and it'll make things make a lot more sense.
It usually plays between 'White Noise' -- the mission you died on -- and the final mission, which I believe was called 'The Beginning'.
You're half-right. The Sunder vs. Transcendant mission is White Noise, but the last is actually called "Transcendence"
I still say that full second or two where everything vanished is a clue that everything didn't really end the way that people think it did. The spoiler below contains my full theories.
The events which transpired around the Transcendant were his memories repeating as his strength grew. After he was killed, everything was reversed, but we couldn't exactly say for sure if he was slain or not. Those two seconds of nonexistence before the campaign's end lead me to believe that after Sunder destroyed the Transcendant, he became one himself. The Transcendant wanted to be freed from his state, and only Sunder truly understood him. Perhaps Sunder Marcel inherited that indescribable power and is now reliving his own memories...
Yes, nobody asked for my theories, but I thought I should get them out there anyhow.
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I agree with your theory but I am led to believe that the Transcend was finally killed in White Noise - as the final Pegasus dies, it is emphasized that the Transcendant is killed by the time compression being sent to 0.01 at the moment the Pegasus explodes. Also note that the previous Pegasus attacking Marcel only disappeared not exploded when you defeat them.[spoiler/]e that everything didn't really end the way that people think it did. The spoiler below contains my full theories.
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But other than...
Seeing the Transcendant flash at the very end
Would that hold any significance other than making me wig out?
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That last appearance of the Transcendant in the movie was probably meant to suggest that what you see in the cutscene was a sort of "thank-you" present for Sunder.
Remember, time rewinds itself, but in the "Transcendence" version of the first mission, Omicron never shows up.
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I played through Sync and Transcend again today..
Sync's thoughts:
Sync made me feel hunted. But the only problem I have with the "Splinter Vasudans" is that they had the same tech as the main Vasudans. Unless I missed something. And the thought that YOU in Sync caused the next Shivan Incursion, then being used AGAIN, was a really good twist.
"Have we doomed humanity?"
"Yes, I think we have."
Transcend:
Transcend is the biggest mind**** that I've played. If anybody knows of similar mindscrews, please share them. Transcend did get slightly repetitive, but it was not boring at all. Having to constantly dodge AAA, fighters and flak is no feat of amateur skill. This campaign got me my Triple Ace. The Transcendent was just as scary as ever. And playing Sync right before Transcend helped me UNDERSTAND it. I've little doubt that poor, beam-vaped Beta 2 is the Transcendent.
"The one who went beyond our world, and into the darkness. He relives his last living memories..."
The nebula that shifts between red and blue is his last memory.
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"Have we doomed humanity?"
"Yes, I think we have."
What was annoying was that Alpha 2 was optimistic all the time before then. Also, what Sathanas that was supposed to be - I mean, it couldn't of been the first, or, really, the first of the others - they all came in through Gamma Draconis, and where the ending was situatied.