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Title: Call of Duty 5
Post by: azile0 on March 02, 2009, 01:19:25 pm
Anybody played it? I get it free with my Mobo on Newegg, wondering if it was any good. I also get a fully patched version of Clear Sky with my Graphics Card.

Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Snail on March 02, 2009, 01:25:56 pm
According to HT:

Pong is a better game than COD5


;)


IMO the only good thing about it is Nazi Zombies. Otherwise it's worth one playthrough and that's it. Not played much multi though, from what I've heard the multiplayer is pretty crap too.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: StarSlayer on March 02, 2009, 02:20:55 pm
Its a pretty standard Call of Duty fair, which was great back in the day but by now to me at least is a little stale.  The Pacific Front really didn't add much to the series, the the island clearing nature of the fighting made the infinite enemy respawn mechanic CoD employs a pain in the ass rather then enjoyable or a new dynamic.  Especially at the harder difficulties trying to clear a path through a rats nest of trenches and bunkers ends up being a trial and error thing rather then a seamless run of combat.  I actually enjoyed the Russian Front much more, there were parts were shooting down fleeing enemies was actually kind of disturbing, which i consider a good trick in a FPS.  I thought the soundtrack and loading screens were pretty awful, the music was "modern" and didn't really fit WW2 and silly graphics in the loading screen once had a modern CVBG instead of Essex carriers and Fletchers.  Of course there are some pretty cinematic moments that CoD usually can provide the Marine Landing Ops springs to mind.  Overall though i think the change of setting CoD4 introduced makes this sorta feel like a step back, and thats even with me going quite a few years without playing a WW2 shooter.  Its certainly pretty and if your still up for a CoD type WW2 game then its worth the ride, otherwise I am enjoying Rainbow Six a lot more.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: dragonsniper on March 02, 2009, 02:29:46 pm
I've played it for the PS3. I think I prefer COD 4, but this one's still pretty good.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: MR_T3D on March 02, 2009, 02:30:43 pm
i like the audio in it beter than 4 (which sounder often like old 2) and co-op, but still feels like a mod for 4, espicisally online
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 02, 2009, 08:16:15 pm
If you have a choice, go for COD 4.  The new one is basically a stand-alone mod for it, but with crappier guns and story.  The storyline for COD 4 IMHO, was one of gaming's finest.  The two buoys that make it worth playing at all are the flamethrower and nazi zombies, and the zombies lose to Russians and Terrorists.

Also, at least for XBox, COD 4 has a lot better multi and more people.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Vidmaster on March 03, 2009, 04:21:32 am
it seems like there is one convention for shooters these days (they have to appeal to a global audience):
Fight Nazis, terrorists or (alien) monsters. And all seem to use very WW2-style guns with the usual gambit of shotguns, pistols, machine guns and sniper rifles   :lol:  Nothing creative like fighting a oppressive Combine state in Half-Life 2 anymore. My hopes for a refreshing shooter scenario are on Precursors. But enough of that. Singularity looks okay too. *note to self - you said enough*
CoD5, Killzone 2, Gears2, Resistance2, a new Wolfenstein...            ...give me something new :)   
Well, on to the game itself, it's standart CoD. A mod for 4. Simple, primitive and feels cloned.
Story is nonexistant, it feels like "best-of-zweiter-Weltkrieg"

assuming you have CoD4 and are bored...
buy:
PC: Crysis   (or even Half-Life 2 if you don't have that)
XboX: Gears 2
PS3: Resistance 2
all three but wait until April: Riddick

Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 03, 2009, 04:40:40 am
From what I heard and saw here, I won't even bother trying CoD5. I mean, WTF is "nazi zombies" ?

Perfectly satisfied with CoD4.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Vidmaster on March 03, 2009, 06:45:29 am
a mini-game. You defend a house and Zombies in Nazi uniforms try to storm it.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: azile0 on March 03, 2009, 01:33:21 pm
I suppose there's a reason why it's being given for free with my Mobo.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Triple Ace on March 03, 2009, 05:05:51 pm
If you are getting it for free, why not try it out? I got it as a Christmas gift and I had a good time with it. The Nazi Zombie mini game that you unlock after finishing the campaign is actually pretty fun. I can't give any info on the multiplayer portion, I'm stuck with dial-up.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: IceFire on March 03, 2009, 10:52:43 pm
Nazi Zombis on my friends PS3 its an absolute riot. Much more fun playing split screen than anything else I suspect :)
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: -Joshua- on March 04, 2009, 04:08:41 am
Don't. Buy Half Life 2 or CoD4 Modern Warfare. Preferably Half Life 2 (Buy the entire orange box while you are at it).
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: azile0 on March 06, 2009, 02:26:29 pm
I've never played any other CoD games, so I suppose this "WW2" setting won't have the same droll effect on me as many others. Although I do wish it would move on.

According to X-Play in 2007(?) We've been storming Normandy Beach for more than 40 days in total play time.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 06, 2009, 09:36:35 pm
Well, points to COD WaW (It's NOT COD 5!) for not having something as fun as storming Normandy Beach.  Instead, it sticks you on Japanese beach after endless Japanese beach.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 06, 2009, 10:49:35 pm
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According to X-Play in 2007(?) We've been storming Normandy Beach for more than 40 days in total play time.

You know, I've played every CoD game that's out for PC, and not once have I stormed Normandy Beach.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 07, 2009, 12:09:18 am
Medal of Honor Frontlines.  Normandy scene ripped straight from Saving Private Ryan.  And I'm sure there are a few other WWII franchises that have you storming Normandy.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: S-99 on March 08, 2009, 10:28:12 pm
Instead, it sticks you on Japanese beach after endless Japanese beach.
I bet that happened to be true during the war.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 08, 2009, 11:00:58 pm
Medal of Honor Frontlines.  Normandy scene ripped straight from Saving Private Ryan.  And I'm sure there are a few other WWII franchises that have you storming Normandy.

Medal of Honor is not Call of Duty, last time I checked.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 08, 2009, 11:30:23 pm
What does X-Play say on nukes? Cause just the other day, I caused at least 10.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: MR_T3D on March 10, 2009, 03:07:10 pm
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According to X-Play in 2007(?) We've been storming Normandy Beach for more than 40 days in total play time.

You know, I've played every CoD game that's out for PC, and not once have I stormed Normandy Beach.
guess you never played the subsequent american campains in COD2
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: -Joshua- on March 11, 2009, 02:58:25 pm
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According to X-Play in 2007(?) We've been storming Normandy Beach for more than 40 days in total play time.

You know, I've played every CoD game that's out for PC, and not once have I stormed Normandy Beach.
guess you never played the subsequent american campains in COD2

Where the Normandian cliffs are stormed. Not the famous 'Omaha beach' from Saving Ryan.

But storming cliffs is fine too. However, storming a cargo ship is awesome ;).
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: azile0 on March 12, 2009, 11:17:49 am
Not just in CoD, but for all of the WW2 games combined. There's more than just CoD out there.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 12, 2009, 09:45:37 pm
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According to X-Play in 2007(?) We've been storming Normandy Beach for more than 40 days in total play time.

You know, I've played every CoD game that's out for PC, and not once have I stormed Normandy Beach.
guess you never played the subsequent american campains in COD2

Cliffs aren't beaches. If you say that they are, that's still only one level out of the entire series. Hardly 40 hours of game play, unless you're absolutely terrible at the game.

Not just in CoD, but for all of the WW2 games combined. There's more than just CoD out there.

How many other WW2 FPSs have came out since the CoD series became popular (do not read "since CoD was released")? The people who think WW2 FPSs are over-played? No. They don't play these games.

This is ridiculous. The people who are tired of WW2 FPSs are not playing them and the people that still enjoy them are playing them. Stop your whining.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Snail on March 14, 2009, 06:06:49 pm
CoD6 will be another Modern Warfare.

I'm just hoping CoD7 won't be another WW2 shooter. :ick:
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: IceFire on March 15, 2009, 09:45:54 am
CoD6 will be another Modern Warfare.

I'm just hoping CoD7 won't be another WW2 shooter. :ick:
They should do a WWI shooter! :)

Nobody would like it tho.

EDIT: You know what I want. A proper Rainbow Six style game.  Counter-terrorism unit that has a situation that needs to be defused and the key part about the whole thing is to execute the mission according to plan and doing all the right things.  That was absolutely exhilarating although I realize its much more complicated than the simple run and gun.  Recent R6 games haven't measured up.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 15, 2009, 07:54:37 pm
CoD6 will be another Modern Warfare.

I'm just hoping CoD7 won't be another WW2 shooter. :ick:
They should do a WWI shooter! :)

Nobody would like it tho.

It'd certainly be interesting. Sit in a trench for 6 hours then at the end of the game go over the top and immediately get shot by a machine gun nest.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Mongoose on March 15, 2009, 09:15:04 pm
I'm still waiting for an American Revolution shooter.  Stand in line next to your fellow soldiers, fire across an open field at a line of enemy soldiers, spend 45 seconds reloading, repeat. :p
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 18, 2009, 12:48:57 am
Really looking forward to CoD MW2.  The story from the first is epic, easily one of my favorites (possibly most favorite, except maybe Mass Effect).  Rainbow Six is a little too sterile, if that's the right word.  No mess ups, has to go exactly according to plan.  If it doesn't, everything goes to hell.

@Mongoose:
Nah!  Civil War FPS would be better.  New guns means only a 10 second reload!
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: killadonuts on March 18, 2009, 02:28:39 am
CoD 5 and Modern Warfare are pretty much the same game.  It's built on top of the same engine with a few new things to "try" and keep it fresh like the flamethrowers.  It's just a new setting with old weapons (and a lot more bugs and glitches)
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: S-99 on March 18, 2009, 03:46:44 am
COD4 was a great game. For WW1 and american civil war games. You may not get that much out of playing in first person. WW1 and american civil war games are better off as overhead strategy games.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 18, 2009, 01:44:54 pm
CoD 5 and Modern Warfare are pretty much the same game.  It's built on top of the same engine with a few new things to "try" and keep it fresh like the flamethrowers.  It's just a new setting with old weapons (and a lot more bugs and glitches)
I take it you didn't notice the story?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 18, 2009, 03:28:19 pm
The second story really wasn't as good.  When you're in a WW2 shooter, there is only so much historically accurate stuff to explore.  I think that between CoD and MoH, we've covered just about all of it (have any of them covered Jan-May 1940?  Up until Dunkerque?).  With the MW story, it can be literally almost anything.  For example, the story to MW:
Spoiler:
Russian Ultranationalists give nukes to small Middle East nation.  Fight ensues.  Nuke goes off.  Gigantic fight in Russia.  Nukes launched.  Player disables Nukes.  Player gets the hell out of there.  Roughly that, at any rate.
Pretty epic, if you ask me.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 18, 2009, 04:09:27 pm
You forgot
Spoiler:
Player gets executed. Player dies in nuclear blast. Player (possibly) dies along with all the other characters.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 18, 2009, 04:12:48 pm
First one is not player, merely spectating.

Second, yes, and epically.

Third, does not.  See: Last Mission.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 18, 2009, 05:03:47 pm
First one is not player, merely spectating.

Second, yes, and epically.

Third, does not.  See: Last Mission.

First one (the credits sequence) is a completely playable level. You're just bound and dragged along the whole time. It has the same zoom-into-head, first-person-identification sequence as every other level.

Third: it's left open to interpretation whether or not it happens, but you can't see you definitively don't. The airplane mission is an easter egg.

Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 18, 2009, 08:30:04 pm
except when the russian says
Spoiler:
"You are going to be alright, my friend!"

and the second doesn't count because you don't get to shoot anything  :p.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 18, 2009, 09:21:34 pm
except when the russian says
Spoiler:
"You are going to be alright, my friend!"

and the second doesn't count because you don't get to shoot anything  :p.

Like that time everyone on Galactica was like 'you're gonna be okay' and then they gave all the morpha to the dying guy and then he died? Maybe he was just giving you Russian comfort.

Bah! If you mash 'melee' hard enough you can break free.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 18, 2009, 09:24:32 pm
It's the way he says it.  He says it with relief, not with desperation.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: killadonuts on March 19, 2009, 05:24:25 pm
I take it you didn't notice the story?

I was just looking at it from the multiplayer perspective.

In the single player perspective;  Of course the story is different but the gameplay is really quite the same when you get right down to it.  Different story, different setting, different weapon, yet same game engine and the same general feel.  I like COD5, its just not that new compared to the old one.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 19, 2009, 06:52:13 pm
have any of them covered Jan-May 1940?  Up until Dunkerque?.
Not as far as I know.  Pretty much all of that was retreating from the Nazis, no real action took place until North Africa.  And Russia was pretty much the same thing. They simply kept getting forced back until Stalingrad.  WWII only really got started in earnest when America got involved and started kicking fascist ass in both the Pacific and the Atlantic.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 19, 2009, 07:16:02 pm
have any of them covered Jan-May 1940?  Up until Dunkerque?.
Not as far as I know.  Pretty much all of that was retreating from the Nazis, no real action took place until North Africa.  And Russia was pretty much the same thing. They simply kept getting forced back until Stalingrad.  WWII only really got started in earnest when America got involved and started kicking fascist ass in both the Pacific and the Atlantic.

ahahahahaha

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ahahahahaha

No. The Germans were certainly fighting. The Poles fought. The French and British fought their asses off (the Battle of Britain was the turning point of the European war and Americans were hardly involved.) The Chinese? Dear God, did they fight.

History, my friend. History.

Also, this is an international foru, so a lot of people in areas of the world hit hard by WWII are going to be quite upset with the idea that their particular slices of history weren't really 'part of the war'.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: IceFire on March 19, 2009, 11:05:45 pm
have any of them covered Jan-May 1940?  Up until Dunkerque?.
Not as far as I know.  Pretty much all of that was retreating from the Nazis, no real action took place until North Africa.  And Russia was pretty much the same thing. They simply kept getting forced back until Stalingrad.  WWII only really got started in earnest when America got involved and started kicking fascist ass in both the Pacific and the Atlantic.
I suspect that you need to open up a few more history books.  The Polish fought bitterly for about as long as their inadequate army and airforce could hold up (BTW: Polish fighter pilots flying outdated P.11c's shot down 232 aircraft that were MUCH more modern).  There were numerous and subsequent engagements between the French and British Expeditionary forces although yes that was sort of a running retreat once the Germans broke through.

But then came the really big fights. The Battle of Britain was a definining battle of the war.  That was definitely a stand up fight.  And then the next major battles were the actions after Operation Barbarossa including an absolutely brutal struggle not that far from Moscow.  That all took place prior to the US invovement in World War II.  Pre-WWII America was strictly opposed to intervention in the conflict and remained steadfastly so (except for Eisenhower and a few other major figures) until the Japanese launched their strike on Pearl Harbor.

So no...the war was quite well underway by the time the US was involved.  I haven't even mentioned Khalkin Gol or all of the fighting that took place in China pre December 1941.  And once the US did get into the war they weren't even ready for it...production ramped up quickly but most of the services were ill prepared for what was required.  Case in point...the USAAF didn't have a fighter capable of operating on the Western Front or over the Channel until 1943 when the first of the P-47D Thunderbolts arrived. Even those needed some work before they were turned into a superb fighter.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 20, 2009, 02:32:15 pm
Yeah, I know they fought, but they didn't accomplish anything besides delaying the inevitable.  Except in Britain's and Russia's case where they actually managed to win.  Effort without results is meaningless.  And remember, most gaming companies and a large portion of the gamer market is in Western Europe and North America.  And I doubt Americans and British want to play as losing Polish or Chinese.  I certainly wouldn't want to play a WWII game as Polish soldier facing down the Nazi hordes in a fight that I can't win.  Its not just because I'm an American, but simply because I don't like losing, even if it is inevitable.  Imagine the end-game as the Polish or Greeks, "Oh hey, you won the campaign, but I'm sorry, your side lost the war, even though you won."  Not very fun to win a campaign to find out you still lost.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 20, 2009, 04:09:51 pm
........

So then, you hate the main storyline of FS2?  Facing down hordes of Juggernauts in a fight you can't win, only delay the inevitable?   :wtf:
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 20, 2009, 04:33:18 pm
No, because you win and stop the Shivans, even at great cost.  The GTVA may be battered and broken, but it isn't conquered.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2009, 04:56:40 pm
I love how people compare real history to FS history.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 20, 2009, 06:44:45 pm
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No, because you win and stop the Shivans, even at great cost.

Until you see the 80+ saths.  Then it becomes "Dunkerque" (That's actually one of the mission names IIRC) for the GTVA.  You don't win.  You escape, barely.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 20, 2009, 08:30:33 pm
I love how people compare real history to FS history.

To a point, real history is FS history. :p
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 20, 2009, 11:20:29 pm
Yeah, I know they fought, but they didn't accomplish anything besides delaying the inevitable.

*headdesk*

How...sensitive of you.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: phatosealpha on March 20, 2009, 11:23:15 pm
Yeah, but FS2 gets to stop after Dunkerque.  Not just the game, but that 'history' stops.  And so there's no one going "Well, why the **** ain't I getting to play as Captain Kirk in the battle of the Earth Gate 3 months later?"
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Snail on March 21, 2009, 07:22:18 am
Yeah, I know they fought, but they didn't accomplish anything besides delaying the inevitable.
So you're saying thousands of people's deaths were pointless then.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 21, 2009, 09:18:06 am
Yeah, I know they fought, but they didn't accomplish anything besides delaying the inevitable.
So you're saying thousands of people's deaths were pointless then.

And what about all the young soldiers on the Japanese and German sides who did fight and die to accomplish something?

We have the luxury of victory. We get to assign the 'hero' badge to our young folks. But we shouldn't forget about them, no matter how wrong their causes.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: IceFire on March 21, 2009, 10:52:54 am
Yeah, I know they fought, but they didn't accomplish anything besides delaying the inevitable.  Except in Britain's and Russia's case where they actually managed to win.  Effort without results is meaningless.  And remember, most gaming companies and a large portion of the gamer market is in Western Europe and North America.  And I doubt Americans and British want to play as losing Polish or Chinese.  I certainly wouldn't want to play a WWII game as Polish soldier facing down the Nazi hordes in a fight that I can't win.  Its not just because I'm an American, but simply because I don't like losing, even if it is inevitable.  Imagine the end-game as the Polish or Greeks, "Oh hey, you won the campaign, but I'm sorry, your side lost the war, even though you won."  Not very fun to win a campaign to find out you still lost.
Fighting...winning or loosing is still "real action" as you put it.  The war did not start when the US entered it...lots of stuff going on before that.  And say for instance we follow the life of a Polish soldier. The war didn't end for many of them when Poland was invaded.  Large numbers of troops regrouped in the Middle East and Egypt and went on to fight in the campaigns in North Africa, the invasion of Sicily, and at Italy.  Especially Monte Casino.

That whole front is very poorly represented in the WWII shooter realm.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Snail on March 21, 2009, 11:18:20 am
And what about all the young soldiers on the Japanese and German sides who did fight and die to accomplish something?

We have the luxury of victory. We get to assign the 'hero' badge to our young folks. But we shouldn't forget about them, no matter how wrong their causes.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: redsniper on March 25, 2009, 08:46:50 pm
Sorry to interrupt the history education, but

CoD MW2

At first, I read this as Call of Duty: Mechwarrior 2. I'm pretty sure that would be better than whatever they're working on now.

*ahem* Carry on.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Polpolion on March 25, 2009, 08:54:22 pm
Sorry to interrupt the history education, but

CoD MW2

At first, I read this as Call of Duty: Mechwarrior 2. I'm pretty sure that would be better than whatever they're working on now.

*ahem* Carry on.

A FPS in the Battletech universe, if done correctly, would be pretty neat. But it wouldn't be done correctly.
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: Scotty on March 25, 2009, 09:18:50 pm
Nope, everyone would be disappointed because of colossal expectations.

Honestly, can ANYTHING related to Call of Duty and MechWarrior (more properly BattleTech) live up to expectations?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: redsniper on March 25, 2009, 10:09:11 pm
heh, you could be a foot soldier whose job is to disable and defeat Battlemechs. You'd be the Solid Snake of Battletech. :D
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 25, 2009, 10:53:19 pm
MechWarrior FPS-ish thing: http://www.moddb.com/mods/mechwarrior-living-legends (http://www.moddb.com/mods/mechwarrior-living-legends).

Looks good.  I may grab Crysis just for it.  I hope they release it soon.  Need my MechWarrior fix.  Is Version 4 the latest MekTek package?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 26, 2009, 08:43:57 am
heh, you could be a foot soldier whose job is to disable and defeat Battlemechs. You'd be the Solid Snake of Battletech. :D

Cassie Suthorn?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: -Joshua- on March 27, 2009, 10:21:29 am
heh, you could be a foot soldier whose job is to disable and defeat Battlemechs. You'd be the Solid Snake of Battletech. :D

Cassie Suthorn?

That girl that got on an back of an atlas, cut it open, shot the pilot, took over, and then subsequently had her atlas gunned down?
Title: Re: Call of Duty 5
Post by: General Battuta on March 27, 2009, 10:36:30 am
heh, you could be a foot soldier whose job is to disable and defeat Battlemechs. You'd be the Solid Snake of Battletech. :D

Cassie Suthorn?

That girl that got on an back of an atlas, cut it open, shot the pilot, took over, and then subsequently had her atlas gunned down?

Wasn't that a Battlemaster?

Anyway, she was the Inner Sphere's only man-vs-mech martial arts specialist! It would've been silly if it hadn't been done so realistically.