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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Dilmah G on March 12, 2011, 12:25:53 am
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Brother, did you read the interview? They were keen on being given the chance to produce an FS3, but no, there is no FS3 in the works.
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Jesus I don't even understand how you can be posting in this thread without having read the first post.
But I know reading is tough.
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Bah, no need for sarcasm, he had at least read until where Shivantown is mentioned. :P
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Jesus I don't even understand how you can be posting in this thread without having read the first post.
But I know reading is tough.
There’s always hope. Not much, but it’s there.
:confused:
It hasn't been directly mentioned in the interview that FS 3 would be cancelled or made or whatever, but if ever you can blame my logical inability of course. :nod:
Bah, no need for sarcasm, he had at least read until where Shivantown is mentioned. :P
Honestly, I didn't have any idea the Shivans actually had a homeworld.
Perhaps right now you imagine be arsing off die-hard Star Wars and Halo fans in massive debate threads. What should I say?
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Man, you should reaaaally read the interview again, these points were explored in some depth.
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Honestly, I didn't have any idea the Shivans actually had a homeworld.
Perhaps right now you imagine be arsing off die-hard Star Wars and Halo fans in massive debate threads. What should I say?
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1z6rui0.jpg)
What does that have in relation to this?
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Marcov is obviously one of the most stunning intellectuals to ever grace the HLP community. His insightful, relevant posts stimulate discussion and bring forth new, creative ideas without fail. Few members can hope to match the great legacy of coherence with which marcov has graced us all. Should we revere marcov as the magnificent beacon of debate that he is? In the words of his illustrious predecessor, woutersmits, "yes and now".
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YOU MOST MAKE DEBATE
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Don't make me have to split this thread, I didn't get much sleep last night and I really don't want to have to. If you force a knackered Flipside to think, he will remember... :p
At least when he wakes up he will.
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I'd make a threat myself, but I'm too lazy to carry it through. :p
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Let marcov do it then .
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What does that have in relation to this?
Just to dictate that I'm not currently into debating.
Also, someone has yet to explain how Freespace 3 is clearly cancelled within the interview. I see no significant statement that implies this.
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There is nothing in the interview related to the cancellation of FreeSpace 3. Battuta simply asked Mr. Scott what :v:'s ideas for a theoretical FS3 was. That is all.
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Also, FS3 can't be cancelled as it was never on the table to begin with. Marcov, the chances of anyone doing FS3 are extraordinarily slim, due to the following factors:
1. Space Sims, as a genre, are a complete niche product. For a company that wants to make money off of their games, going into a project like that is extremely risky.
2. Volition does not own the rights to the FreeSpace universe. It's owned by Interplay, who want an unreasonable amount of money for the rights.
2b. Interplay is not in the position to invest in a new game in the FS series, due to an acute case of being rather broke.
3. Volition is not an independent company. It is owned by THQ, meaning that any project they want to start has to be approved (and is funded by) THQ. Who are more interested in getting a good chance of selling something like a new Saint's Row than risking several million dollars developing a new FreeSpace.
So no. FS3 isn't cancelled. Because, in order to be cancelled, it would need to be started first, which noone has done or is in a position to do at this time. Is that clear enough for you?
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What does that have in relation to this?
Just to dictate that I'm not currently into debating.
Also, someone has yet to explain how Freespace 3 is clearly cancelled within the interview. I see no significant statement that implies this.
FreeSpace 3 was never greenlit. It can therefore never be cancelled.
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Is that clear enough for you?
Yep.
We'd commit murder to make a FreeSpace 3.
Anyone explain this? Also, as stated earlier,
There’s always hope. Not much, but it’s there.
Of what I understand, Mr. Scott says that there's little hope, but at least there is hope.
I'm not saying that there's a good possibilty for FS3, but still, just what do these statements mean?
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It simply means that :v: would be more than willing to make FS3 if they are given the opportunity and resources. Given that :v: made FS1 and FS2, anybody who is willing to fund the development of FS3 would be more likely to approach them rather than some other development studio.
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Anyone explain this?
Easy. If copyrights didn't exist, and if Volition, like any other company, wasn't driven by profits, but by nostalgia emotionality, they would begin to work in Freespace 3 tomorrow.
Alas, this is planet earth, year 2011. Wake up.
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but at least there is hope.
No.
The chance of Interplay deciding to give the go-ahead on FS3 at present, in their current financial state, is zero. Even if Interplay picks up again, the chance is infinitesimal. SPACE SIMS ARE A NICHE MARKET at the moment, and there will likely be no FS3 until that changes.
So... don't expect FS3, basically.
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(8) the universe ends in a nanosecond without notice.
And Is instantly remade, But without nose hair! (and instantly the universe is a better place)
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It was nice that volition gave us a reply. But, i would say nothing was learned. You can only gather so much that it pretty much reads to me, "yeah fs3, you got it pretty good with how inferno and bp went". I definitely find it very funny how everything of what they said plays into what we have already done here for fs and already thought about the shivans. It's too convenient.
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It was nice that volition gave us a reply. But, i would say nothing was learned. You can only gather so much that it pretty much reads to me, "yeah fs3, you got it pretty good with how inferno and bp went". I definitely find it very funny how everything of what they said plays into what we have already done here for fs and already thought about the shivans. It's too convenient.
I'm having a hard time reading past the second sentence of your post without cracking up laughing. Fortunately the last sentence is such comedy gold I always push through to get to it.
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If they make FS3 it has to have Gargants in it
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If they make FS3 it has to have Gargants in it
Shut up.
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If they make FS3 it has to have Gargants in it
This is a terrible post
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Hey man, leave him be, he's a special interest group :colbert:
Keep fighting the good fight DarthWang
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Shut up.
This is a terrible post
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I hereby move that we adopt the kugu habit of tempbanning posters who use an image macro and nothing else.
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I hereby move that we adopt the kugu habit of tempbanning posters who use an image macro and nothing else.
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Just in case... >_>
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Knock one down. 3 more appear...
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I will post the full text below.
I want you to know, going in, that these answers are remarkable in a number of ways.
First, they are compatible with most fan-made works. They add Volition legitimacy to components of Blue Planet's story, to what I know of Inferno, and - well I'm not sure who else is doing much with the Shivans.
They also help resolve the endless debate about what Volition thinks of character-driven campaigns. The answer is a good one for both sides, recognizing the worth of both approaches.
These answers leave room for interpretation. They will not kill any campaigns. They give us our own latitude for creativity. It is not, I am afraid/overjoyed to report, a master plan. But it is more than we've ever had before.
I forgot battuta, you said it first about BP and inferno. This whole quote of yours is really to keep morale up for an otherwise underwhelming moment for the community. But, you are indeed the person who mentioned compatibilities of campaigns and theories from this community with what :v: said about fs3. I stand corrected and realize that you said this, and not as i said earlier was :v:.
My main point again, this whole thing isn't much to be excited about. Us asking the great makers of fs and hear them say, "yeah, we don't know much about fs3 at all" and, "we'd love to make fs3 if we could". Really i'm curious why people are getting excited about what :v-old: told us about fs3 unless it's mostly just fan excitement receiving something from :v-old: that's actually talking to this community. This is hardly a "we finally know what gets to happen in fs3" moment in the slightest.
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You are profoundly stupid, your misrepresentations are profoundly and offensively stupid, and yet there is some hope: in all this community there was only one person dumb enough to say what you did.
They explicitly told us what would happen in FS3 and what the origins and nature of the Shivans were. They told us what probably happened to Bosch and why the Capella supernova occurred.
Some day I wish to receive a revelation that will explain to me how even a single human being can read these plain and incontrovertible facts, then turn about and believe the complete opposite - yet still, miraculously, as if through divine agency, retain the motor skills and language capability required to type words on a keyboard.
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I still find this moment in the community underwhelming since it is still :v: telling us what they think and might have been in fs3. They don't know too much obviously; they didn't get that far into planning the game. It's really their theories and conjectures with nothing more. I may be profoundly stupid to find this, but it's very apparent to me.
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I still find this moment in the community underwhelming since it is still :v: telling us what they think and might have been in fs3. They don't know too much obviously; they didn't get that far into planning the game. It's really their theories and conjectures with nothing more. I may be profoundly stupid to find this, but it's very apparent to me.
No ****, Sherlock. It's still an infinitude more information than we had before. It's literally the best information that exists in the entire world about the content of FS3 because it comes from the man who would've written FS3.
If you're underwhelmed by that, you're an idiot, because there is nothing that could be any more informative than what we have here except for more of the same kind of material from this man. Nothing more than his notional outline would exist because the plot of the game is informed by the development process and that development process never happened.
Your attitude is like being disappointed at the recovery of Elvis Presley's diary because it isn't the same as Elvis ****ing coming back to life.
This right here, folks, is the type of fan developers detest, and the reason I'm glad V members aren't active on this forum. They'd have to put up with this kind of ingrate.
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If you're underwhelmed by that, you're an idiot
Nice, now I know that I'm an idiot. Either that or Battuta's dictionary is idiotic.
I rather prefer the second, if you don't mind.
This right here, folks, is the type of fan developers detest, and the reason I'm glad V members aren't active on this forum. They'd have to put up with this kind of ingrate
No, you don't get it. It's fairly simple for us to be underwhelmed by the answers, while being very grateful that the writer of FS2 did make them. You are personalizing something that no one else did. Get over it. People are underwhelmed and that's not a problem. Move on.
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If you're underwhelmed by that, you're an idiot
Nice, now I know that I'm an idiot. Either that or Battuta's dictionary is idiotic.
I rather prefer the second, if you don't mind.
There is something seriously ****ing wrong with anyone who can go ten years expecting never to know anything about any of this, then get concrete answers to all the outstanding questions we have about FreeSpace and still be disappointed.
I think that condition is 'idiocy'. Don't be an idiot. It's not too late to save yourself.
EDIT: Look, you ninja edited in something to make you look like you can piece two neurons together to make a synapse.
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Actually, **** it, one more post in this vein and I'm sending all this retarded **** over to the dump for idiots Flipside established.
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Actually, **** it, one more post in this vein and I'm sending all this retarded **** over to the dump for idiots Flipside established.
I seriously recommend you get a cup of tea. You're boiling over nothing. Ok, I got it, you were amazed by the revelations. I'm okay with that, it's perfectly fine. Why are you insulting anyone that doesn't feel like you? Come on man.
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There is something seriously ****ing wrong with anyone who can go ten years expecting never to know anything about any of this, then get concrete answers to all the outstanding questions we have about FreeSpace and still be disappointed.
I think that condition is 'idiocy'. Don't be an idiot. It's not too late to save yourself.
Bawww, someone took this differently than you did, big deal. :doubt:
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Actually, **** it, one more post in this vein and I'm sending all this retarded **** over to the dump for idiots Flipside established.
I seriously recommend you get a cup of tea. You're boiling over nothing. Ok, I got it, you were amazed by the revelations. I'm okay with that, it's perfectly fine. Why are you insulting anyone that doesn't feel like you? Come on man.
I actually find telling idiots they're retarded really relaxing. This is one of the reasons I am such a perfect human being.
You on the other hand are the mongoloid who looks at a developer spilling nearly everything they have about a game they left behind ten years ago, defying all the protocol and custom of the games industry in order to reward loyal fans, and acts like they should've resurrected Elvis for you.
EDIT: actually your edit above suggests you are not a mongoloid, so maybe you just didn't see what S-99 and I were arguing about. I'll PM
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Your attitude is like being disappointed at the recovery of Elvis Presley's diary because it isn't the same as Elvis ****ing coming back to life.
This is not my attitude by far. I'm not being critical of the interview you conducted, i'm being critical of the answers you were given. I'm the guy who expects everything to not be as great as it is profoundly to be by others. And definitely i don't find this to be as great as it is proclaimed to be (because in reality it's not). Granted, it may be from the mouth of the guy who would've written the story to fs3. But, like we both know, they didn't get that far into planning the game (development process never happened = they didn't get far with planning the game...i already said this earlier). I never clicked on this thread giddy like a school girl just to find out the prom has a mix tape for the music instead of the real elvis.
I came into this thread with the expectation of figuring that they were going to say the things that we all here already knew of fs3. This compared to what this community already has known by past communication with :v:, and lo and behold i was right; it was stuff we already knew. I know that this community and you hold in high reverence the person who would have written the story for fs3 (i do too). I however would not hold in high reverence what that person has said about the story of fs3.
So when this place has another interview with people who made the fs series. Like many times in the past, that's a cool thing (we learn a lot about how they make their games and what they were thinking, even this interview we did). But how much super ultra confirmation about the issue of the story of fs3 do we need after the first few times from :v: for it to be clear enough? Because that's all this is, an ultra confirmation for things past confirmed. How many more times do we need to ask them about fs3? It's a tiring thing.
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Your attitude is like being disappointed at the recovery of Elvis Presley's diary because it isn't the same as Elvis ****ing coming back to life.
This is not my attitude by far. I'm not being critical of the interview you conducted, i'm being critical of the answers you were given. I'm the guy who expects everything to not be as great as it is profoundly to be by others. And definitely i don't find this to be as great as it is proclaimed to be (because in reality it's not). Granted, it may be from the mouth of the guy who would've written the story to fs3. But, like we both know, they didn't get that far into planning the game (development process never happened = they didn't get far with planning the game...i already said this earlier). I never clicked on this thread giddy like a school girl just to find out the prom has a mix tape for the music instead of the real elvis.
I came into this thread with the expectation of figuring that they were going to say the things that we all here already knew of fs3. This compared to what this community already has known by past communication with :v:, and lo and behold i was right; it was stuff we already knew. I know that this community and you hold in high reverence the person who would have written the story for fs3 (i do too). I however would not hold in high reverence what that person has said about the story of fs3.
So when this place has another interview with people who made the fs series. Like many times in the past, that's a cool thing (we learn a lot about how they make their games and what they were thinking, even this interview we did). But how much super ultra confirmation about the issue of the story of fs3 do we need after the first few times from :v: for it to be clear enough? Because that's all this is, an ultra confirmation for things past confirmed. How many more times do we need to ask them about fs3? It's a tiring thing.
You are actively lying and fabricating now. The bulk of the material in this interview has never been presented before. It was completely unknown to us.
Get out.
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A++ thread, would read again.