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Title: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on November 28, 2011, 04:20:47 pm
Not the first time I've made a thread inquiring about a game, and since you guys helped me with the previous inquiry (which was Cyberia) I've come again to challenge you to yet another puzzling thing that's been bugging the hell out of me for a couple weeks now

I had the game on my Windows 95 computer, or the one prior to that which I don't recall the OS (ran a floppy disc game called F15 Strike Eagle)

Anyhow: Essentially, the game had you in control of what could be best described as a bumper car. You were a blue bumper car up against what appeared to be several other bumper cars. You're placed in a 3D environment with naturally, 2D enemies and powerups. The objective was I believe to obtain the red flag and return it to your own, while picking up walls which could be placed behind you, and other various things which helped you against these red... bumper cars.

That's all I can summon currently, although I do have a recollection of three levels somewhat. One was a dungeon type area, which had an area with a floating platform you could boost yourself up to using the jump powerup thingy. Sometimes a flag would be up there. Another was a bluish level, while another had a ramp in the middle of nowhere for what appeared to be no particular reason.

Hopefully that's enough to get some sort of answer, but if you've still got questions about it I'll do my best to answer them
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Fineus on November 28, 2011, 04:37:13 pm
Do you mean "Hover!" by any chance?

http://www.stanford.edu/~cammat/HOVER/
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: LHN91 on November 28, 2011, 04:38:56 pm
Ninja'd. However, will link this anyways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hover!

Microsoft's FTP link for the game (on the wikipedia page)
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/deskapps/games/public/AAS/Hover.EXE

EDIT:
It's on the Windows 95 install disc as well, amongst the other extras (couple of music videos and such)

EDIT2: And unlike most other 3D games Microsoft had their hands in, it runs on every Windows OS from 95 & NT 3.51 and up.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Mongoose on November 28, 2011, 04:53:32 pm
Oh man, I loved Hover!  I don't even know how many hours I sunk into it on our old Gateway 2000.  The MIDI music always felt like it came straight out of Descent.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: deathfun on November 28, 2011, 05:45:55 pm
Ha! Yes! That's the game!

Oh the memories after looking at the images to it. Good times were had.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 28, 2011, 07:00:06 pm
that might have been the first ever computer game i played.  downloading now. :)
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Grizzly on November 29, 2011, 12:13:05 pm
You guys are quite awesome, ya know that?
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Jeff Vader on November 29, 2011, 12:30:42 pm
You guys are quite awesome, ya know that?
Ah yes, I know. I'm amazing. [/Jurgen Gutherswartczhaffenstrassen]
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: deathfun on November 29, 2011, 03:35:05 pm
You guys are quite awesome, ya know that?

The awesome that stems from their posts in this thread is directly due to my asking the question
Therefore I am spreading my awesome through their posts

But sadly that's not true...
*cries while playing Hover!*
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Klaustrophobia on November 30, 2011, 06:11:05 am
someone should do a modern remake of this game.  i'd buy it.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: SypheDMar on November 30, 2011, 07:30:19 am
I remember this game! When I first played it, I had no idea what I was supposed to do.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: jr2 on November 30, 2011, 06:10:56 pm
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/deskapps/games/public/

Fury3 & Hellbender trial... wish they were full editions...
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: KyadCK on November 30, 2011, 06:42:18 pm
I've had memories of this game randomly pop into my head ever since I went to my first computer show so many years ago. I could never find it and no one had any clue based on my descriptions. Huge thanks to deathfun for describing it well enough and everyone who answered!  :yes:

EDIT: And Hover! works 100% on Win7 64-bit with no compatibility options at all, awesome!

In return, another old game that eluded me for years and years was Outpost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outpost_(video_game)).

One that I still draw a blank on was another game made by Sierra. Only parts I rememeber was on the opening scenes when the Sierra logo came up, a fuzzball thing droped down in a bucket and said "Sierra", and the game itself was you were a stick figure trying to get from one point of a map to another via ladders and platforms while trying to avoid the other stick figures.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: deathfun on November 30, 2011, 07:02:41 pm
I've had memories of this game randomly pop into my head ever since I went to my first computer show so many years ago. I could never find it and no one had any clue based on my descriptions. Huge thanks to deathfun for describing it well enough and everyone who answered!  :yes:

EDIT: And Hover! works 100% on Win7 64-bit with no compatibility options at all, awesome!

In return, another old game that eluded me for years and years was Outpost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outpost_(video_game)).

One that I still draw a blank on was another game made by Sierra. Only parts I rememeber was on the opening scenes when the Sierra logo came up, a fuzzball thing droped down in a bucket and said "Sierra", and the game itself was you were a stick figure trying to get from one point of a map to another via ladders and platforms while trying to avoid the other stick figures.

Jumpman (C64)
That little red stick figure. Sorta like Pitfall and Donky Kong. Jumpman had to go up and down ladders and ropes; avoid the enemies; and collect little things along the way. There was also Jumpman Jr. The only change was the size of Jumpman and the game was just a little more challenging.

I googled your description and lo and behold

EDIT: Actually, you know what? I'll make this thread about games that elude you
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me (and games that elude you)
Post by: KyadCK on November 30, 2011, 07:15:16 pm
Heh, no, I'm quite sure Jumpman isn't what I talking about. None of it looks familiar, though the basic concept is close. I'm also very certain about Sierra being involved.

Also, sorry for hijacking the thread, its just yours was solved and others were chiming in. Got my hopes up.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me (and games that elude you)
Post by: Enzo03 on November 30, 2011, 08:43:33 pm
Ah ok I have one.

There was this airplane game on the NES that was kinda like After Burner in that you piloted a Jet plane from a 3rd person POV (behind the plane), but it was crappier in graphical quality - the color of the plane tended to change to be similar to the background.  I do not think it tilted the view like After Burner did.  Apparently there were boss fights against large planes.  I had this game when I was little, like from when I was born (my parents bought this NES a while before I was born and I still have it now).

When I went to the used game store I looked at a cart for Top Gun and lo and behold, that cart looked EXTREMELY familiar, but Top Gun's POV is from within the cockpit, which is not what this game was.

And I have absolutely no idea what it could possibly be.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me (and games that elude you)
Post by: deathfun on November 30, 2011, 09:05:06 pm
Heh, no, I'm quite sure Jumpman isn't what I talking about. None of it looks familiar, though the basic concept is close. I'm also very certain about Sierra being involved.

Also, sorry for hijacking the thread, its just yours was solved and others were chiming in. Got my hopes up.

Haha, no need to apologize myte. Figured it'd be a good idea, afterall, everyone has that game which name eludes them
I'll keep looking for yours, albeit it doesn't sound familiar

Also, would it be Captain Skyhawk that you're talking about Enzo?
(http://www.vgchartz.com/games/pics/captain-skyhawk_49511.png)

There's also Starforce
(http://www.consoleclassix.com/info_img/Star_Force_NES_ScreenShot2.jpg)

Star Soldier
(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/32007-star-soldier-nes-screenshot-an-end-of-level-bosss.jpg)

Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Enzo03 on November 30, 2011, 09:26:31 pm
Not at all, no, and no, but I have played and love those last two titles.

The reason I mentioned After Burner is because it plays similarly to it.  There is another game that I think is called Sky Shark or something along the lines of that which has a similar feel, but Sky Shark is a WWII game.  This one put you in the seat of (well, behind, technically) a jet plane, like After Burner.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: LHN91 on November 30, 2011, 10:01:04 pm
As a random side note, I realized shortly after I found this place that one of those games I couldn't name years ago was FS1  :nervous:

My cousin had a copy years ago and I was going to borrow it and forgot it at his house. Never saw it again. The part I remember most clearly was him flying a Valkyrie on a mission.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Darius on November 30, 2011, 10:36:49 pm
Enzo, is it F-15 City War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSI6jTz5-Ao#t=1m03s)?
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on November 30, 2011, 10:42:09 pm
Not at all, no, and no, but I have played and love those last two titles.

The reason I mentioned After Burner is because it plays similarly to it.  There is another game that I think is called Sky Shark or something along the lines of that which has a similar feel, but Sky Shark is a WWII game.  This one put you in the seat of (well, behind, technically) a jet plane, like After Burner.

Ha, ya, after reading your description again I noticed I missed a key point: Behind the plane, not above it
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: Klaustrophobia on December 01, 2011, 05:54:42 am
One that I still draw a blank on was another game made by Sierra. Only parts I rememeber was on the opening scenes when the Sierra logo came up, a fuzzball thing droped down in a bucket and said "Sierra", and the game itself was you were a stick figure trying to get from one point of a map to another via ladders and platforms while trying to avoid the other stick figures.

The Incredible Machine?  it had the fuzzball thing, and your description sounds sorta like the puzzles with Mel.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: KyadCK on December 01, 2011, 11:20:56 am
One that I still draw a blank on was another game made by Sierra. Only parts I rememeber was on the opening scenes when the Sierra logo came up, a fuzzball thing droped down in a bucket and said "Sierra", and the game itself was you were a stick figure trying to get from one point of a map to another via ladders and platforms while trying to avoid the other stick figures.

The Incredible Machine?  it had the fuzzball thing, and your description sounds sorta like the puzzles with Mel.

Found a few of the very early ones from an abandonware site, got The Incredible Machine 1 working easily and yes, that is the fuzzball thing. Didn't drop down in a bucket, but then i couldnt get the other 2 that came after it working... Perhaps its one of those.

The Incredible Machine 1 works in XP 32-bit with no compatability settings if anyone is wondering.
Title: Re: The Game's name escapes me
Post by: LHN91 on December 01, 2011, 12:06:52 pm
One that I still draw a blank on was another game made by Sierra. Only parts I rememeber was on the opening scenes when the Sierra logo came up, a fuzzball thing droped down in a bucket and said "Sierra", and the game itself was you were a stick figure trying to get from one point of a map to another via ladders and platforms while trying to avoid the other stick figures.

The Incredible Machine?  it had the fuzzball thing, and your description sounds sorta like the puzzles with Mel.

Found a few of the very early ones from an abandonware site, got The Incredible Machine 1 working easily and yes, that is the fuzzball thing. Didn't drop down in a bucket, but then i couldnt get the other 2 that came after it working... Perhaps its one of those.

The Incredible Machine 1 works in XP 32-bit with no compatability settings if anyone is wondering.

The Incredible Machine 2 works fine in DosBox. Just if you wanted to try it.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Mongoose on December 01, 2011, 12:37:57 pm
GOG.com also has a pack of four or five of the games together.  TIM 3 was an all-time favorite of mine.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on December 01, 2011, 01:55:14 pm
I should really try out far more older games. I can nearly name all the ones I've played on PC back in the day, and I already figured out those old Sega games a year ago...

...SHINOBI
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: LHN91 on December 01, 2011, 02:11:34 pm
I should really try out far more older games. I can nearly name all the ones I've played on PC back in the day, and I already figured out those old Sega games a year ago...

...SHINOBI

Arrrggghhhhh Shinobi was such a hard game. Still have a copy.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Enzo03 on December 01, 2011, 02:29:52 pm
Enzo, is it F-15 City War (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSI6jTz5-Ao#t=1m03s)?
No but at least it is a jet fighter game like that one that is not Afterburner.
However, I do not believe there were any city levels in the game I'm after.

Also, that seems to be like a bunch of "different games" in one thing.  This was just one game. :P

==

Funnily enough, I have a complete reversal of this situation with yet another jet game, this one being Jetfighter 3: Platinum Edition for PC, which was the first flight "sim" I ever played (but making carrier landings backwards is not realistic).  I can't seem to get it by any means at all.  And when I say "any"...

I wish it were on GOG, even if it were just the Gold or regular edition.

Then again, I just remembered that buying things online is no-go for me so oh well. :(
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on December 01, 2011, 02:40:12 pm
I should really try out far more older games. I can nearly name all the ones I've played on PC back in the day, and I already figured out those old Sega games a year ago...

...SHINOBI

Arrrggghhhhh Shinobi was such a hard game. Still have a copy.

Best ending ever
GAME OVER

By the way Enzo, are you sure it's for the NES?
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Enzo03 on December 01, 2011, 02:44:30 pm
By the way Enzo, are you sure it's for the NES?
mfw this (http://myfacewhen.com/images/404.jpg)
Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was NES because that was all I had until I was like... 6.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on December 01, 2011, 03:23:08 pm
By the way Enzo, are you sure it's for the NES?
mfw this (http://myfacewhen.com/images/404.jpg)
Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was NES because that was all I had until I was like... 6.

Ah, well... I just went through the complete list of NES games...
Going through it again

EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsccNyTkWCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhnGxDWbVA&feature=related

It is a mixture... and the colour changes from background to background

Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: CP5670 on December 01, 2011, 06:17:58 pm
Here is an obscure one. I had an early 1990s Mac (System 7) side-scrolling game where you were a typewriter and had to destroy all the computers that had made you obsolete. The name was something like "Vintagiquest," but I can't remember it exactly and this turns up no results on the usual Mac abandonware sites.

I'm pretty well up on my classic Mac games and have all my old stuff working nicely in an emulation setup, but have never been able to track this one down.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Enzo03 on December 01, 2011, 08:29:35 pm
EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsccNyTkWCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhnGxDWbVA&feature=related

It is a mixture... and the colour changes from background to background
I don't remember any of the overhead sections except for the landing, which I had also forgotten about but now remember.
I didn't remember the first boss being that black plane (looks like a B-1), but I looked at other videos for the game, and the second boss looks almost dead on from what I remember.
I definitely do not remember that weird music.
I remember the refueling sections.

...It doesn't look exactly like I remember but it looks really really close, so I'm thinking that maybe this was the one. \o/
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: QuantumDelta on December 01, 2011, 08:54:37 pm
I got one for you guys....
It was a three phase game... back in the late 90s I assume it's a DOS game really, though I don't know what version, it had a 'missile defence' part, where you shot incoming rockets down and defended a city, I think the things you fired were simple lines, but I'm not entirely sure..
Another phase was basically shooting people in a building as they popped up at the windows.
And I don't remember the other phase(s?)..

It was entirely 2d, and in a very arcadey art style.. somewhat reminiscent of the original SF games, just with slightly less polish.

I've always wanted to replay the game, but never been able to re-find it...
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Enzo03 on December 02, 2011, 05:00:00 pm
While I was looking through games for the NES I discovered another game which I remember from a Famicom Multicart called Star Luster.  It was great to play it again!

I also have another one for you.

This is one from my days in Kindergarten when we got to go to the computer lab to play games.

The games list was some IBM menu or something I can't remember, but one particular game stood out on there.  I thought it was called "Roboman" or "Robo Man", BUT when I looked for that game online (no WAY am I going to find that game for sale anywhere, and I want to make sure anyway), I didn't find what I was looking for.

What I got was some weird platform-puzzle looking game that didn't look or PLAY anything at all like the game I was after.

What I wanted was a platform shooter.  The levels were NOT sidescrolling.
You played as this grey guy, he seemed to be faceless in the sense that he wore a helmet or something.  I guess he was a robot or something.  The first level, which I never ever beat (I sucked at games in general when I was little), had some guys who did have faces (I think) and came in various colors from the right side of the level.  I think there was a spawner or something there.  I think there was also a turret or something moving up and down the right side.  I do not remember the level layout beyond this although I believe there were many platforms.

I also once started the game to find a very, very different level with two humongous robots that killed me in seconds, I lost all lives/health (I forget which it has, if not both) and was sent back to the first level that I remember so well.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Scourge of Ages on December 02, 2011, 06:56:01 pm
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/deskapps/games/public/

Fury3 & Hellbender trial... wish they were full editions...
Gasp! Hellbender! I played it once on a display computer at a store, loved it, but then forgot about it. Thanks for bringing it back! Maybe I'll try to find a full version somewhere.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: Alex Heartnet on December 03, 2011, 02:37:54 pm
I once had a Sega Genesis game, the name of which eludes me.  It is a top-down 2D shooter, with a few twists.  It is military-themed, and there were separate weapons for attacking air targets and ground targets.  The levels also alternated between you performing ground attacks and air attacks - on air attack missions you could not use your guns at all against ground targets, instead having to use your bombs, while in ground attack missions you could use your guns on ground stuff, but bombs made bigger explosions.  Oh, and you had unlimited ammo for both guns and bombs - there weren't any limited-ammo weapons.

But the key thing I remember about it is how the game would say "Commence Operation!" at the beginning of every level, and "Direct Hit!  Target Destroyed."  after you beat the level's boss.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: JGZinv on December 03, 2011, 02:44:53 pm
I got one for you guys....
It was a three phase game... back in the late 90s I assume it's a DOS game really, though I don't know what version, it had a 'missile defence' part, where you shot incoming rockets down and defended a city, I think the things you fired were simple lines, but I'm not entirely sure..

Sounds exactly like Missile Command.  The rest... no idea.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: -Sara- on December 07, 2011, 07:39:11 am
I got one for you guys....
It was a three phase game... back in the late 90s I assume it's a DOS game really, though I don't know what version, it had a 'missile defence' part, where you shot incoming rockets down and defended a city, I think the things you fired were simple lines, but I'm not entirely sure..
Another phase was basically shooting people in a building as they popped up at the windows.
And I don't remember the other phase(s?)..

It was entirely 2d, and in a very arcadey art style.. somewhat reminiscent of the original SF games, just with slightly less polish.

I've always wanted to replay the game, but never been able to re-find it...

It wasn't Inca was it? You had to fly a bit, solve puzzles, shoot people who popped around corners etc. I think it had a missile defense bit in it too.

(http://www.myabandonware.com/media/captures/I/inca/inca_12.gif) (http://www.myabandonware.com/media/captures/I/inca/inca_10.gif)

Sounds exactly like Missile Command.  The rest... no idea.

Many games probably cloned elements of Missile Command, it could by any game.
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: QuantumDelta on December 07, 2011, 01:29:01 pm
Nopers, it was a military styled game, I think the bit where you're shooting them out of windows is some sort of hostage rescue and the missile command bit is defending a city, I think there were 4 or 5 sam sites that you launch from..
The art doesn't look that far off era wise ;x
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: -Sara- on December 07, 2011, 07:49:32 pm
If it was JGZ's suggestion, is this it?

(http://www.terragame.com/downloadable/simulation/missile_command/screen_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: QuantumDelta on December 08, 2011, 04:07:27 am
There was absolutely no hint of 3d to it at all, it was all just 2d sprites ;x
Title: Re: Games that elude you. We're here to help
Post by: deathfun on December 23, 2011, 05:03:46 am
If it was JGZ's suggestion, is this it?

(http://www.terragame.com/downloadable/simulation/missile_command/screen_1.jpg)

Sidenote regarding this, you reminded me I had this game
Installed it, back to enjoying it's awesomeness