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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: FlamingCobra on July 16, 2013, 03:33:18 pm
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The United States is finally allowing foreign pro gamers to enter the country on a visa normally used by elite athletes.
The move officially recognizes online game League of Legends as a professional sport, with players from U.K. clan Team Dignitas issued P-1 visas.
Of all the games in the world, why League of Legends? :hopping: Why not StarCraft II? That's a national sport in South Korea.
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Are you serious?
Please show an instance where a pro SC2 player was denied a pro athlete visa first before complaining about something like that :P
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I guess governments are finally catching up with the times. It's about time, e-sports are just as good as any other kind sport. It's nice they're now legally considered such.
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It's about time, e-sports are just as good as any other kind sport.
I humbly disagree. Actually sitting through someone else playing a game like LoL sounds like a fate worse than death. :p
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I humbly disagree. Actually sitting through someone else playing a game like LoL sounds like a fate worse than death. :p
... he said at the same moment that a thread about Cricket occurs in GD.
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wat.
let's please not start calling video games sports. sports imply physical, athletic competition.
but if an athlete visa is what is leagally needed to let them go wherever and play, then sure.
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wat.
let's please not start calling video games sports. sports imply physical, athletic competition.
That is becoming an increasingly vague defimition. Someone doesn't display sportsmanship because he's athletic, he does so because he carries a sense of fair play and the fun of the game, both of which I see in video games (even if it's just a lazy typing of "GG") as much as I do in "traditional" sports.
I humbly disagree. Actually sitting through someone else playing a game like LoL sounds like a fate worse than death. :p
I can say the same about "athletic" sports. I'd much, much (and have) rather watch an SC2 or LoL match than curling or football. Some proffessionaly played video games are much more strategic and deep than most traditional sports, IMO, which makes it more fun to watch.
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It's all subjective at the end of the day. As with the cricket thread I think cricket is a terrible spectator sport, but it's subjective. It's a spectator sport because people like watching it, I'm just not one of them. I've seen footage of pro gamers playing games in arenas with hundreds of people watching. Like here:
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May I please just say that after playing LoL for a good three months out of peer pressure I cannot see the appeal of this game at all?
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Well, Darts is considered a sport by some or a game by others, so if Darts can have a professional arena, why not computer games?
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Me, I know nothing about League of Legends. But I sometimes like watching others play games. I would never pay to do it though. In fact, I wouldn't even think it was worth the trouble to get to such an event even if it was free.
Speaking of watching others play games...
Plenty of foul language, and I think at least once you’ll be thinking “will you guys please just shut up!” But it’s hilarious and in good spirit.
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Yeah - I don't understand those youtube videos. I have the exact same experience actually playing the game with my friends.
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That particular one, I don't play Minecraft, and I didn't know it could be played like that when I first saw it. It was something I stumbled upon, and there's just something about watching it unfold that's hilarious. I just clicked it initially because I was curious, but it held my attention for the whole duration and I enjoyed it.
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Lorric: You're drifting off-topic again. If you want to discuss the youtube Let's Play culture, make a new thread.
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I guess governments are finally catching up with the times. It's about time, e-sports are just as good as any other kind sport. It's nice they're now legally considered such.
I'm totally imagining all of the EA Sports games being played in the same fashion as SC2
And them being shown on TSN and other various sports channels
Oh my god that would be hilarious
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People should be forced to play SC2 in an athletic manner first, by donning a costume of their faction's base combat unit and fighting to the death
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May I please just say that after playing LoL for a good three months out of peer pressure I cannot see the appeal of this game at all?
Neither can I.
But hey...tastes.
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wat.
let's please not start calling video games sports. sports imply physical, athletic competition.
This is a dumb definition. There are so many things that are considered sports that have a whole lot less physical movement going on than the average SC2 match.
This is a whole lot more movement than Darts, Curling, Fishing or Bowling. Some people consider Chess a sport.
If you consider the sheer mental fortitude it takes to play SC on a high level I would definitely consider it a sport. It's bloody exhausting to play it competitively.
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Exactly. Chess is a sport, and a respected one, at that. Snooker or Pool don't take a lot of physical activity, but are also perfectly good sports. Shooting (most definitely a sport) does take some physical training, but it's light and not really essential (and if you're shooting from prone position, you don't need that strength at all, at least if you're doing it right). So why not video games?
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I stopped playing Warcraft 3 ladder matches because it was taking too much out of me. At first I loved it, I felt it pushed my limits, it sharpened me up all round, even when I wasn't playing and was doing other things. But after a good few months it was just draining. Too competitive. And I also felt something of the spirit of what a game should be about had been lost, so while I love Warcaft 3 I haven't played a ladder match since that day many years ago when I decided it wasn't good for me.
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People should be forced to play SC2 in an athletic manner first, by donning a costume of their faction's base combat unit and fighting to the death
Only with the dev team.
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People should be forced to play SC2 in an athletic manner first, by donning a costume of their faction's base combat unit and fighting to the death
Now I'mma zergling! I'm gonna have to put this costume on and bend over and AUGH MAH BACK!
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I think this article (http://www.cracked.com/article_18763_5-insane-true-facts-about-starcraft-professional-sport.html) has some pretty compelling points about why Starcraft 2 is a sport.
Considering how professional Starcraft 2 players make more money than professional baseball players...
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Very interesting read.
Also, this is my...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MjBWfKMcYw0/T6B66fc7_uI/AAAAAAAABtM/vn7IOi6tvQY/s640/1000th.jpg)
He he :D
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Considering how professional Starcraft 2 players make more money than professional baseball players...
Compensation not maketh a sport...
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Considering how professional Starcraft 2 players make more money than professional baseball players...
Compensation not maketh a sport...
Sport is too vague a word for me to go in on either side of that particular debate. But what about the intensive training required?
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I find compensation to be a ridiculous metric. If you argued Snooki or Honey Boo Boo deserve Academy Awards because they make a lot of money you'd get laughed out of town.
While I don't begrudge these folks their visas I personally consider it a game, same as poker or MTG.
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While I don't begrudge these folks their visas I personally consider it a game, same as poker or MTG.
In my experience, those are definitely considered sports, especially professional Texas Hold'em.
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I remember someone on the internet joking that a D3 player would be a valid job in near future. That was so funny.. :(
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I want tabletop wargaming to be a sport then. I have to stand up, walk around and physically push my guys around the table :D
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Isn't there some kind of WH40K league already? I think there are pro-level tournaments for this (dunno about other tabletop games).
While I don't begrudge these folks their visas I personally consider it a game, same as poker or MTG.
Professional poker can definitely be called a sport. Same for professional bridge.
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Isn't there some kind of WH40K league already? I think there are pro-level tournaments for this (dunno about other tabletop games).
While I don't begrudge these folks their visas I personally consider it a game, same as poker or MTG.
Professional poker can definitely be called a sport. Same for professional bridge.
I meant historical :P
I went and looked up "sport" in Wikipedia and apparently it is played pretty fast and loose as far as what it entails.