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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 12:57:11 pm

Title: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 12:57:11 pm
I would appreciate if you could participate in this poll to survey what kind of OS and hardware the fine people here have in their gaming PC. As a rule of thumb in this poll, you have three votes. One for OS, one for CPU and one for GPU.

If you do not know what options to pick, here's a quick rundown how to get the information.

OS
In Windows, from Start-menu open Run and type "msinfo32", then click OK. Therein you will find OS name and system type that tells you what OS you are running and whether it is 32- or 64-bit.

Linux and Mac OS X are found at bottom of the poll (sorry, I forgot about them). If you're using OS X, please let us know which OS X you are using.

CPU
Please do NOT select all options that your CPU supports. Select only the newest instruction set your CPU supports. For example, if your CPU supports SSE3, select only SSE3 and ignore SSE2 and SSE. Likewise if your CPU supports AVX, select only it and ignore all SSE options.

Easiest way to check which instructions your CPU supports is to grab and run CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html). Once you have the program open, you will find supported SSE or AVX extensions in the "Instructions" field.

(Other instructions like SSSE3 and SSE4 were left out from the poll on purpose)

GPU
Just like in CPU part, select only the newest DirectX your GPU supports. For example, if your GPU supports DirectX 11, select only it and ignore the rest.

Easiest way to check DirectX support of your GPU is to grab and run GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/). Once you have the program open, you will find latest supported DirectX in "DirectX Support" field.


Thank you for your participation!

If you made a mistake in your votes, you can remove your vote and vote again.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: The E on September 19, 2013, 01:00:33 pm
I've edited it to add Linux and MacOS options, as well as provide equivalent OpenGL support.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 01:18:55 pm
Good idea The E. I considered extending OS X list to include multiple releases, but decided against it. Instead, it'd be nice if OS X users would tell us which version they're running. There are apparently huge differences in OpenGL support between the releases.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Ghostavo on September 19, 2013, 01:21:26 pm
Where's SSE4? It's kind of a big jump from SSE3 to AVX.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 01:24:30 pm
Intel and AMD have mostly incompatible "SSE4 level" instruction sets in their CPU's, up until AVX comes along at which point using SSE4 is pointless. So it's either SSE3 or AVX if you want to rely on single instruction set getting the job done.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Ghostavo on September 19, 2013, 01:30:27 pm
Then why not use SSSE3?
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: The E on September 19, 2013, 01:36:53 pm
Because it doesn't offer relevant capabilities.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 01:44:17 pm
And because the only AMD arch that doesn't support AVX but supports SSSE3 is Bobcat...

Edit:I'm fairly sure I made it a point to allow users to change their votes, but it seems like this isn't allowed. I wonder if a moderator can edit the poll to allow vote changes because I can't.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: The E on September 19, 2013, 02:12:27 pm
Users should be able to change votes now.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 19, 2013, 02:15:24 pm
Thank you. :)

Edit: Maybe this could be highlighted if anyone would be willing? Google image search brings up some decent images that can be used for a highlight when you search for "survey".
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: pecenipicek on September 19, 2013, 02:31:48 pm
i find it offensive that i cant vote both windows and linux :p

(i play what games i can in linux and others in windozers)
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: EvidenceOfFault on September 19, 2013, 02:50:04 pm
64 bit Linux (well, dual-boot, but I haven't booted Win7 in at least a month).
SSE3
OpenGL 4.2 (But I think Mesa only uses OpenGL ~2.0)
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Rodo on September 19, 2013, 03:10:56 pm
submited.

what's the intel for Fury?
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Phantom Hoover on September 19, 2013, 03:13:47 pm
"proving that noöne uses win98"
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Rodo on September 19, 2013, 03:19:30 pm
That statement is false.
Some old soft only runs on win98. That said, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that no one uses win98 on a gaming rig anymore.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: pecenipicek on September 19, 2013, 03:43:03 pm
That statement is false.
Some old soft only runs on win98. That said, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that no one uses win98 on a gaming rig anymore.
dont worry, if goober shows up... :p
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: swashmebuckle on September 19, 2013, 03:59:35 pm
Mac OS 10.6

Will be getting a new haswell machine before the year is out which should bump me up to OpenGL 3 (or 4 if 10.9 is out by then) and AVX.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: IronBeer on September 19, 2013, 04:29:22 pm
OS: Win7, 64-bit
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti, 2048MB
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.3GHz (AVX-capable)
RAM: 8GB DDR3

I do also keep a WinXP netbook around for travels and some vintage games, but it's a less-than-ideal solution for a good number of cases. Will consider alternate setups in time.

Ed: I underestimated my core's instruction set.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Mongoose on September 19, 2013, 04:38:24 pm
Huh, didn't even know I supported SSE3 until now.  I'm holding down one or two fun minorities, too. :p
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Nuke on September 19, 2013, 06:57:22 pm
my rig is amazingly cutting edge considering its almost 2 years old (to be fair i did upgrade cpu and mobo last fall). this year's upgrade will be storage and maybe gpu.

CPU: i7 3770k
GPU: geforce 560
RAM: 8gb ddr3
OS: win7 64
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on September 20, 2013, 12:06:27 am
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.
CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1090T (6 cores @ 3.2 GHz per core), supports SSE3 (and "SSE4A", whatever that is)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6970 (supports DX11/OGL4)
RAM: 4 GB at some very fast speed that I cannot remember, but given how full it can get (and the way some people are putting "8 GB" under "minimum specifications", even though that is clearly a lie), thinking of upgrading to 16 GB.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: z64555 on September 20, 2013, 12:49:27 am
Posted the specs of my new Sager laptop, which ironically, I'm not using much at all for the moment. I have to get my "desk" fixed to where I can put the laptop on it without fear of the desk falling apart (The laptop is fairly heavy).

Old Specs:
Win XP
Intel Integrated Graphics
Core2 Duo T5300
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Zacam on September 20, 2013, 01:30:21 am
I selected for my current rig, even though I'll be upgrading once Haswell-E is out (one way or the other).

I could bump the GPU up to DX11/OGL4, but I don't really feel like sinking money into something that will essentially be constrained so much by all the rest of the system.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: zookeeper on September 20, 2013, 01:43:17 am
OS: Win 7, 64-bit
CPU: Intel C2Q Q9450 (2.66Ghz, 12MB)
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 9800 GT (1024MB)
RAM: 8GB 800Mhz DDR2

I'm hoping to keep this setup running as-is for a few more years.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 20, 2013, 07:12:37 am
what's the intel for Fury?
Just to see how modern computers HLP folks are running and how results compare to Steam's survey (http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey). It doesn't hurt that surveys like these helps SCP to better focus their efforts.

Also, it is not needed to post exact specs. Of course you can if you want, it's just not relevant beyond what is asked in the poll.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: FlamingCobra on September 20, 2013, 07:31:28 am
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU: Intel "Ivy Bridge" Core i7-3610QM @ 2.3GHz. Apparently can turbo up to 3.3GHz. Supports up to the AVX instruction set.
GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 660M, 2GB
RAM: 8GB DDR3
DirectX 11.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: The E on September 20, 2013, 08:13:43 am
We're not stopping you from posting your full specs, but as Fury said, they're not relevant to us.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Kobrar44 on September 20, 2013, 08:19:30 am
OS: Win7, 64-bit
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti, 2048MB
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.3GHz (that's gotta be SSE3)
RAM: 8GB DDR3

I do also keep a WinXP netbook around for travels and some vintage games, but it's a less-than-ideal solution for a good number of cases. Will consider alternate setups in time.

SB and up have AVX. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#CPUs_with_AVX)
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: IronBeer on September 20, 2013, 11:35:35 am
OS: Win7, 64-bit
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti, 2048MB
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.3GHz (that's gotta be SSE3)
RAM: 8GB DDR3

I do also keep a WinXP netbook around for travels and some vintage games, but it's a less-than-ideal solution for a good number of cases. Will consider alternate setups in time.

SB and up have AVX. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#CPUs_with_AVX)
Vote adjusted, and the offending post has been modified. Good catch.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: TrashMan on September 20, 2013, 03:08:32 pm
I have actually no idea what my processor supports.. Intel Core i5-3570K
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Klaustrophobia on September 20, 2013, 04:28:22 pm

Just to see how modern computers HLP folks are running and how results compare to Steam's survey (http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey). It doesn't hurt that surveys like these helps SCP to better focus their efforts.

Also, it is not needed to post exact specs. Of course you can if you want, it's just not relevant beyond what is asked in the poll.

it's a little discouraging to see nvidia/intel dominating AMD so hard.  i don't want to see the industry lose that competition.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: blowfish on September 20, 2013, 06:13:35 pm
I have actually no idea what my processor supports.. Intel Core i5-3570K

You could try Google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Core+i5-3570K&l=1).
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: whitearrow on September 20, 2013, 07:41:50 pm
OS: Linux - Kubuntu 13.04 - 64 bit
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz (quad-core) SSE4
GPU: GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1 GB - OpenGL 4.3
RAM: 8 GB
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: jg18 on September 21, 2013, 03:55:14 am
The poll only had space for my primary gaming rig (Win 7 x64/AVX/OpenGL 4).

I also have a MacBook Pro running OS X with a Core i5 (SSE3) and GTX 330M (OpenGL 3.2), and I use Linux sometimes as well.

EDIT: Updated after re-reading OP.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Nuke on September 21, 2013, 04:34:46 am
I have actually no idea what my processor supports.. Intel Core i5-3570K

You could try Google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+Core+i5-3570K&l=1).

i actually found the info by looking up all my hardware on wikipedia.

Also, it is not needed to post exact specs. Of course you can if you want, it's just not relevant beyond what is asked in the poll.

any excuse to flash our e-penises.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Fury on September 22, 2013, 02:56:44 am
Significant percentage of people have AVX capable CPU, so why have you folks not given The E any feefback on AVX enabled FSO builds (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85566.0)? Silly people. :p You'll also notice that Test Builds board has several (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83737.0) other (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85618.0) interesting topics on probable performance improvements. But the only way these get into mainline FSO builds is that people test them properly and help iron out bugs. :)

I should get on that too, I haven't had FSO installed in good long while so maybe it's about time to install FSO again.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Nuke on September 22, 2013, 03:31:45 am
i admit i dont play freespace as much as i used to. mwll, starcraft, and ksp are eating all my game time. so my whole directory is one big pile of legacy with depricated nukemod assets strewn around everywhere. i might just use the nuke the entire site from orbit mentality on it to bring me up to date.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Klaustrophobia on September 25, 2013, 04:22:31 pm
Significant percentage of people have AVX capable CPU, so why have you folks not given The E any feefback on AVX enabled FSO builds (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85566.0)? Silly people. :p You'll also notice that Test Builds board has several (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=83737.0) other (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85618.0) interesting topics on probable performance improvements. But the only way these get into mainline FSO builds is that people test them properly and help iron out bugs. :)

I should get on that too, I haven't had FSO installed in good long while so maybe it's about time to install FSO again.

Because this is the first I've heard of it.  I, and I'm sure plenty of others with the capable hardware, simply never venture into the test builds sections because we're not modders or coders.  If you stick that kind of stuff in the announcements or just mention "hey we have neat stuff you might be able to test" in general every now and again, you'll probably get a decent response.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Dragon on September 25, 2013, 04:37:57 pm
OS: Vista Business 32bit
Graphics: GeForce 9600GT
CPU: Intel E8500 (dual core), 3,16GHz
RAM: 4GB

Will probably change once I can get my hands on a better motherboard, or Star Citizen comes out. :) I don't like changing my computer, because it's a lot of work moving and re-installing everything I need (and just swapping thing around never works). Still, when I do get to doing it, it'll be running top of the line Windows and at least a quad-core CPU.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Veers on September 25, 2013, 04:50:29 pm
Very happy to admit I knew nothing about AVX until that test-build was put up. Now I know slightly more than I did before :)

Win 7-64bit
Intel 2600K
Radeon 6970 2GB
8GB Ram
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: Killer Whale on September 26, 2013, 01:36:25 am
I wondered if it was unusual that my computer's limiting factor was my OS. Happy to know that, yes, that is unsual.
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: TwentyPercentCooler on September 26, 2013, 08:28:12 am
Took the survey a few days ago, but here's more specific information in the hopes it's somehow useful:

Intel i5 Sandy Bridge 2500k @ 4.6GHz, cooled by Corsair H60
Biostar TZ77B LGA 1155 motherboard
8GB G.skill Sniper series, 2133MHz @ 10-11-10-28
AMD Radeon HD6850 @ 825MHz core clock & 1025MHZ memory clock
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD
OCZ Agility III 128GB SSHD
Windows 8.1 x64
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: ChaosityZ on October 15, 2013, 10:00:54 am
OS: Win7, 64-bit
GPU: Radeon HD 5870, 1024MB
CPU: Intel Core i5 2400K @ 3.1GHz (AVX-capable)
RAM: 16GB DDR3
Title: Re: HLP OS and Hardware Survey
Post by: LHN91 on October 31, 2013, 05:04:05 pm
Really I have 2 gaming systems, my HTPC/gamer and my Laptop.

Tower:
Q6600 OC'd to 3.15ghz (SSE3)
Win8.1 x64
Quadro 4000 (DX 11, OGL 4.3)

Laptop
i5 2410m (AVX)
Win 7 x64
Radeon 6850m DDR3 (DX11, OGL 4.3)

Tower was what I entered in the poll, posting the laptop just in case it's helpful.