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Title: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on February 27, 2017, 02:08:00 pm
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Image by Claus Bergen

Table of Contents: (WORK IN PROGRESS - Might not include the most recent chapters)


This is a work of fiction, presenting an alternative timeline to our own. Delicate, potentially offensive topics are discussed and presented here, including murder and war crimes. The names of real-world persons are occasionally used, but it is not proposed or implied that the original timeline (OTL) persons acted (or would have acted, in reality) in the same way as depicted here, even under the circumstances shown here. These are alternative, fictional characters, meant to serve the purpose of a fictional storyline, and any similarity to people, alive or dead, is coincidental.


Hello again, everyone.

This is a sequel to my Japan RTW playthrough, featured here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=92847.0). By popular vote, I will be taking up the metaphorical reins of the German Imperial Navy from 1900 to the mid-20th century, in an alternative universe where things might follow new, interesting and 'fun' courses.

Shout-out to NGTM-1R and his ramblings (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=92028.0)

A short introduction is in order:

The game starts at 1900, during a time of uncertainty and quick developments in the European theatre. Germany is a rising power, with an autocratic, capricious and 'hands-on' Kaiser at the helm; the times of Bismarck and his chessmaster diplomacy of bluff, appeasement and active jockeying for optimal alliances and the best deal for Germany are (sadly) long past. We are called upon to guide the naval forces of this nation to victory - but our true opponent will often be in Berlin and not on the High Seas.

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A bried overview of the German faction. Note that we are a 'Limited democracy'. This means that we can...creatively interpret the terms of any naval treaty. We can build ships that surpass treaty limitations by 10% in tonnage, although we must keep to any gun caliber limits. We are also 'Cautious' which means that our Kaiser / diplomats do not like long wars and will tend to settle for less than ideal peace treaties so as not to risk a defeat. This comes in addition to the 'Bombastic Head of State' trait, which means that the Kaiser will often say stupid, stupid things that we'll need to deal with, either by being boot-licking sycophants or by falling into disfavour. We also lack oil in our holdings; and start behind the Brits in dock size (although the difference is a mere 2,000 tons). Finally, we have no viable designs for guns larger than 11'' in caliber, while the Brits are building 12''-gun ships and the French can even start with (admittedly abysmal) 13-inchers.

That said, we do have some interesting positive traits. Firstly, we are a 'Technology Leader', meaning that we get a bonus to research and are likely to discover key designs and achieve scientific breakthroughs before our adversaries. Secondly, we get massive bonuses to specific fields of research. Our AP projectiles are second to none; our armor and damcon are likewise top-notch and we are almost certain to develop cross-deck firing before any other nation.

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Some setup. Note that I am choosing 'Very Large' as my fleet size option this time: this will boost the AIs' and my budget by a considerable degree, allowing for larger fleets. It will also allow for larger fleet battles than in my Japan playthrough. Note that a lot of the fighting will take place in the European theatre of operation, such as the North Atlantic, the North Sea, the Baltic and the Med - that's where the big boys keep their fleets (including the Royal Navy) and where the big, no-holds-barred-brawls take place.

I am also choosing 'Historical Resources' (which effectively more than halves my initial budget with respect to the Brits). I am doing this to strategically handicap myself; this is, essentially, me choosing 'hard mode'. To counteract this, I am choosing to manually design the ships that I will be starting with. I am also disallowing 'varied technologies', which randomly makes specific techs perform better or worse than their Original Timeline (henceforth OTL) analogues.

Here are our starting designs:

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Firstly, our Battleships. We are Germans; and therefore we build based on the principle of 'more'. More armor; more gun; more speed.

The Schwaben-class battleships displace 15,9k tons and barely fit the British drydocks where they were built, as part of Alfred von Tirpitz's First Naval Bill. They are the fastest battlewagons in the world, capable of reaching 21 knots when sailing at flank. They are armed with two main double 12-inch turrets and also mount a secondary broadside of five 6-inchers. They are also heavily armored, with a main belt and turret armor of 10 inches and an 1.5 inch deck.

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The Victoria Louise-class were homebuilt; and they are, arguably, small battleships in their own right. They displace 12,000 tons; can reach 22 knots; and bear one of the heaviest secondary and tertiary broadsides in the world. Their main battery comprises of four 11'' rifles, in double turrets fore and aft - these guns can't penetrate battleship belt armor, but can easily punch through extended bow and stern armor and can easily defeat the armor of any armored cruiser in existence. The Victoria Louise-class ships bear a 4.5-inch belt and heavily armored (5.5-inch) turrets. They were designed primarily as escorts and supporting gun platforms - they would either engage the enemy screening elements during a battle, or add their weight of fire to the battle-line.

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The 'little' Gefions were raiders and ships meant for colonial service. At 6.1k tons, they were quite heavy for their intended task, but they were reasonably fast, at 23 knots, with sturdy engines and large coal bunkers. They bore a 5-gun 6'' broadside, in shielded mounts and a decent belt armor of 2.5 inches.

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The Gazelle-class scout cruisers were bigger and badder versions; meant to scout and screen the fleet against enemy torpedo boats. They carried one more gun per broadside and could hit 24 knots.

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The V2-class torpedo-boats were, in fact gunships. They carried only one centreline torpedo mount, but also mounted 4 76mm guns as their main armament and 2 50mm rapid-firing pom-poms as a close-range final defense. They could hit 27 knots and were, frankly, stepping-stone designs and not particularly successful.

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The fleet was complemented by the August Pieper patrol boats, meant for minesweeping and coastal defense roles.

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The fleet in early 1900: Three Schwaben-class battlewagons (the Schwaben, Wettin and Zähringen) form the backbone of the Home Fleet. Victoria Louise and Hertha serve as second-rate and support core elements. Gefion and Niobe were colonial assets; Gazelle, Hela and Thetis serve as DD-squadron leaders, training ships and scouting elements. Eight torpedo-boats and seven patrol boats serve as coastal defense assets.

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Thanks to Bismarck's shift to colonialism during the last years of his service, we have a colonial empire to deal with. The fleet needs to show the flag in our holdings in West- and East Africa; in the Pacific Ocean; and in Kiaouchou Bay.

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Gefion and Niobe are deployed to the Far East and the Pacific, respectively; Gazelle and Thetis are stationed in West- and East Africa.

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This leaves the home waters rather undefended, but there are reinforcements arriving soon. The Brits are reporting that the Braunschweig will be complete within the year, with her sister, Meckleburg following up; Vineta and Freya (two more Victoria Louises) should be done within the year; and five more light cruisers are well underway and nearing completion.

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Now, regarding the Admiralty's doctrine...

(https://s31.postimg.cc/4e46kwo97/Tirpitz_2.jpg)  (https://s31.postimg.cc/z9ldc1vpn/Galster_2.jpg)

The official policy is Navy Minister Tirpitz's plan to counter the British Royal Navy; and the Staff were very much aware that the Kaiser was a proponent of the battleship. However, there were some dissenting voices among the Staff: innovators and adherents to the 'obsolete' von Hollmann cruiser doctrine. Konteradmiral Karl Galster was the most militantly active of those 'troublesome elements'; and he managed to secure funding for research on submarine vessels quite early on (thankfully)

But most of the research budget was poured on the development of better machinery (more speed); fire control and naval gun designs (more gun); and ship design (more everything).

Time to see if the Navy can maneuver the dangerous waters of Imperial international politics... Let's secure ourselves some Lebensraum!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on February 27, 2017, 02:58:50 pm
The image links seem to be broken for the moment

Otherwise somewhat stoked to see what's going on with Germany.

EDIT: Ah, it actually might be my browser. I switched to Vivaldi a couple of days ago and I may have gone a bit overboard with the privacy settings.

EDIT^2: And yes, this was browser related. Actually browser extension related, I had to allow Adblock to accept the images from this site.

What is it with Germans and "V2"?  :lol:

Zucht und Ordnung!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Droid803 on February 27, 2017, 03:40:58 pm
IT BEGINS
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on February 27, 2017, 03:48:43 pm
Yes, time for German engineering to dominate the seas :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: niffiwan on February 27, 2017, 04:26:17 pm
So - Kaiser Wilhelm was a bit of a juvenile loose cannon IRL, and it seems that you're not just killing him off retiring him; should be interesting  :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Commander Zane on February 27, 2017, 04:29:45 pm
What is it with Germans and "V2"?  :lol:
An inevitability. While I don't know about a historic V2-class, there is the V1-class. Since they were built as V1 to V6 (which the last two went to Greece), then G7 to G12, there'll naturally be a V2.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on February 27, 2017, 05:33:42 pm
Is the "Bombastic Head of State" a permanent trait or only applies to the initial Kaiser?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on February 27, 2017, 05:37:36 pm
So - Kaiser Wilhelm was a bit of a juvenile loose cannon IRL, and it seems that you're not just killing him off retiring him; should be interesting  :D

Is the "Bombastic Head of State" a permanent trait or only applies to the initial Kaiser?

Retiring the Kaiser? Surely you jest.

And it's a permanent negative trait, I'm afraid.

What is it with Germans and "V2"?  :lol:
An inevitability. While I don't know about a historic V2-class, there is the V1-class. Since they were built as V1 to V6 (which the last two went to Greece), then G7 to G12, there'll naturally be a V2.

In this universe, V1 was the prototype, which was pushed to complete breakdown during her trial runs. She was never commissioned.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on February 27, 2017, 08:22:37 pm
"Every time a new Kaiser is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on February 28, 2017, 09:34:31 am
Submitted my Thesis for examination today. I am a happy man.

Still need to defend it, sometime around the end of May, and there's still applications for research postings that I need to put together, but my work is done for now.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/ni1pbac91/94f.png)

Yes, this means regular updates. And more writing of another nature that you might have the chance to see in the near-ish future
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on February 28, 2017, 09:54:25 am
Congrats man!
Title: Old and New Players
Post by: Enioch on February 28, 2017, 05:18:24 pm
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The Leipzigplatz and the Kaiserliche Admiralität

"The early months of 1900 served as a rude awakening for all of us. We were all aware of His Majesty's impulsiveness and near-rash action in matters of state policy; and yet we allowed the developments that threatened to cast all of Europe into a disastrous war to surprise us. In my defense, having followed His Majesty's embracing of Herr von Tirpitz's battleship-focused strategy (with some dismay, I must admit), it was inconceivable to me that he should so antagonise the Russians without having first seen the completion of at least the first stage of the plan through. While my personal disagreement with the von Tirpitz plan is well-documented, I must at least grant Herr von Tirpitz that he was as horrified as I (if not more) upon following the political developments. The Eel's constant presence at His Majesty's side and his infernal sycophantic manners must surely have majorly influenced His Majesty's actions.

"Thankfully, the disaster that may have been was averted, thanks, in no small degree, to the unified front presented by the Admiralität throughout this difficult period. But of equal importance, in my mind, was the contribution of the Herzog zu Mecklenburg who would play such a major part in the German political scene during the following years"

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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The early months of 1900 began with relative good news for the German Admiralty. The Tirpitz plan called for increased capital ship production and it had the full backing of the Kaiser Wilhelm II. Private shipbuilders were not averse to investing in improved shipbilding infrastructure and, by the end of March, the German docks in Wilhelmshaven were considerably expanded. Conservative estimates let the Admiralty to the conclusion that, if their own investments were taken into account, Germany would be able to manufacture 17k-ton capital ships by the end of the year. Von Tirpitz was ecstatic.

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Sadly, his good mood did not last long. On the 15th of May, the Kaiser made an ill-advised comment regarding the 'meddling tendencies' of 'those insufferable Russians'; and the comment was allowed to reach the press. Those in Berlin that still remembered the days of Bismarck felt the Iron Chancellor's shadow loom over them; and cold sweat running down their backs. Had not Bismarck warned them?

"That young man wants war with Russia," Bismarck had once said,"and would like to draw his sword straight away if he could. I shall not be a party to it."

But Bismarck was no longer the Chancellor. The 'Eel' was the Chancellor.

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Bernhard von Bülow: one of the most opportunistic and sycophantic statesmen of the early 20th century. He had connived, lied and flattered his way into the Kaiser's good graces; and while he fancied himself an equal to Bismarck in statecraft, he had been described as "having read more Machiavelli than he could digest".

Allowing the Kaiser's statement to reach the press certainly did not earn him many favour points. Wilhelm was, reportedly, 'furious' about the public condemnation his comment had produced.

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(Un)fortunately, von Bülow managed to redirect attention away from the Kaiser and onto the colonial crisis taking place in the Far East. Germany, France and Great Britain joined together to somewhat curb Japanese expansion in Northern Korea; and, while the Japanese certainly did not appreciate Germany's involvement, von Bülow's rhetoric was enough to divert attention away from the Russia gaffe.

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In September, the Gazelle-class Frauenlob was commissioned into the Kaiserliche Marine; while Galster's group rejoiced, the Kaiser expressed his displeasure to Tirpitz.

"Why are the battleships so much delayed?" he is said to have ranted during a closed meeting. "Has the devil Edward been working against their construction?"

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His mood was not improved when the German engineers reported problems in the development of hydraulic recoil systems for the naval guns.

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But, at last, by November, the Admiralty had some good news. Improved condenser designs could now be employed for the manufacture of lighter, more reliable engines. The new generation of battleships could be more compact and more effective.

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Not to mention the wealth of information German agents recovered from Japan. The Japanese were expanding their docks; they were building heavy and fast armored cruisers and, destroyer-killing light cruisers. More importantly, German agents had gotten their hands on the firing test results for the English 9-inch guns. Wilhelm's mood skyrocketed when Tirpitz reported to him that the German analogues outperformed the English rifles in every way.

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And more good news: Braunschweig joined the fleet, on the 24th of November. Only Mecklenburg was now under construction and, upon its completion, the battle-line envisioned by Tirpitz would be complete.

(https://s11.postimg.cc/kbyv75b5v/Screenshot_2825.png)

In early December, new rangefinding technology was introduced. Integrating the new coincidence systems into the fleet was an easy matter, hardly requiring drydock time; and improvements in accuracy were immediately evident.

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And, as if for a New Year's gift, Krupp presented the Admiralty with new steel formulas for stronger and lighter armor alloys.

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By this time, the Kaiser's confidence in Tirpitz was completely restored. Tirpitz was already laying the groundwork for a second naval bill, that would see at least four more battleships laid down: heavier, better-armored designs, built entirely in German yards. The Kaiser was all too happy to agree; and funds were set aside for the further expansion of the German docks, for a planned maximum of 19k-ton ships.

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Freya joined the fleet by the end of the month. Her launching was not a particularly grand event (cruisers did not rate as high in Wilhelm's esteem as battlewagons, after all) but Tirpitz could appreciate the significance of having yet another heavy-hitter in a support role and even Galster could not deny the utility and plethora of options one more armored cruiser could bring to the table.

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And then Somalia erupted in bloody revolt, with several German nationals (including several industrialists and their families) being stranded in the African country.

The Kaiser immediately ordered that the West African squadron should engage Somali ground targets until the Germans were released, after a typical rant. And there were many faces that met desks, or palms; and the Auswärtiges Amt could do little but pull their hairs out at this new pickle their Kaiser had landed them in.

At this time, a new player enters the stage.

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With his young nephew only months away from adulthood, the regent of the Herzogtum of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Johann Albrecht zu Mecklenburg arrived in Berlin. His intentions were to re-familiarise himself with the political background in the capital and to respond in person to several letters from his extended family and associates, who were getting increasingly concerned and frustrated by the Kaiser's political acumen (or, rather, lack thereof). One of these men was Galster.

Johann Albert was to stay in Berlin for much longer than he had originally intended...

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 01, 2017, 09:45:14 am
Oooh, the deutschland über alles saga begins! Loving all the political intrique so far.

Submitted my Thesis for examination today. I am a happy man.

Still need to defend it, sometime around the end of May, and there's still applications for research postings that I need to put together, but my work is done for now.
Congrats!

Yes, this means regular updates. And more writing of another nature that you might have the chance to see in the near-ish future
  ;7
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 01, 2017, 10:01:46 am
Signal to flag, Dank German Memes in sight!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on March 01, 2017, 12:06:40 pm
But Bismarck was no longer the Chancellor. The 'Eel' was the Chancellor.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 01, 2017, 01:01:05 pm
*snip*

 :lol:

*snip*

Terconia is a 'go', although it's gonna take some time.

Also, many thanks to all for your kind wishes!  :D
Title: Single Front
Post by: Enioch on March 01, 2017, 03:35:46 pm
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Herzog Johann Albert von Mecklenburg and his wife, Prinzessin Elisabeth Sybille von Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach

"It was with great joy that I received the news of the Herzog's arrival in Berlin. His Excellency was well known to me ever since the years he had spent in the African colonies and for his stint as the Chair of the Kolonialgesellschaft. I knew him as a man who embodied the very best Germany had to offer: he was skilled in administration and possessed a keen political mind; he was diligent in his work, frugal, devoted to his wife and family and a fervent patriot. I do not shy from admitting that, when I first approached him, it was in search of an influential patron of my "Kleinkrieg" plan. I hoped that his experience with the necessities of colonial service would make him see the benefits of my proposed fleet structure.

"However, during our first meeting, he was quick to take over the initiative and, instead of promoting my theories, I found myself defending them from a fair and yet absolutely merciless attack. I was flattered that His Excellency had, apparently, taken the time to study my proposals to such a degree; and it became clear to me that he was eager to be well-informed and form his own opinions on the state of our naval forces."

"It was telling that, three days after our meeting, I received an invitation from His Excellency for a joint meeting with Großadmiral von Tirpitz in His Excellency's Berlin lodgings. I was apprehensive at first, not knowing what such a meeting would portend..."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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In February 1901, the newly arrived Herzog von Mecklenburg invited Großadmiral von Tirpitz, Konteadmiral Galster and select members of the Navy Staff in his Berlin lodgings, in what would come to be known as the Sankt Blasius meeting. He expressed great interest in joining the Flottenverein and made known his desire for the rift between the two schools of thought (the Tirpitz battle-line and the Galster 'running war') to be bridged, in the interest of the State. Could a compromise, perhaps, be achieved? Could the Reichsmarineamt not present a unified front in this time of uncertainty? The Admiralität was to submit their budget for training exercices, shortly - could an arrangement between the two parties not be achieved?

Such was the force of von Mecklenburg's personality, that a sort of agreement was reached between the two parties. The meeting stretched on, for more than fifteen exhausting hours but, by its end, the core of a new training regimen was laid down. The capital-ship heavy doctrine of Tirpitz was evident in the focus on gunnery; but Galster was also satisfied to some degree thanks to the focus on night fighting. This would, hopefully, allow the German Zerstörer-flotillas to close to torpedo ranges undetected under the cover of darkness.

More importantly, the Sankt Blasius meeting established von Mecklenburg as a new major player among the Naval Staff and in the Flottenverein, to the degree that von Tirpitz spoke very highly of him during his meetings with the Kaiser.

Wilhelm had known von Mecklenburg in the past; they had both attended Bonn University and they were members of the same club: the Borussia Bonn society. But they had drifted apart, during von Mecklenburg's stint as the regent of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

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So, when SMS Braunschweig returned from her shakedown cruise and stood by for inspection by the Kaiser, Wilhelm saw an opportunity to re-connect with his former acquaintence. Following a small party after the inspection of the ship, Wilhelm invited von Mecklenburg to comment on what he thought on the final ship of the class, which would be, coincidentally, named after the Herzog's home Duchy.

Once again, von Mecklenburg's force of personality (and rhetoric) proved overwhelming. He proceeded to monopolise the Kaiser's attention for several hours, with jokes, banter and witty comments, while interspersing insightful commentary on the state of the Navy; von Tirpitz and Galster, also present in the scene, were quick to stand behind their new patron. Von Mecklenburg took great care not to directly criticise any of Wilhelm's policies; and, as the party drew on, he and von Tirpitz discreetly brought the discussion to Russian matters. They commented most unfavourably on how von Bülow had handled the Russian fiasco (taking advantage of the latter's uncharacteristic absence and the Kaiser's still-simmering anger) and expressed their concerns on how the Franco-Russian Defensive Pact might be an insurmountable obstacle for Germany.

Seeing Wilhelm's mood darken, von Mecklenburg suggested that the Franco-Russian Pact could be sabotaged; and that Russia, isolated, would be a much more manageable opponent. This cheered Wilhelm up immensely. Turning to von Tirpitz, he asked him directly: "Should war come, can you promise me victory against the Russians?"

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In response to which, Tirpitz drew himself up, his impressive beard flaring out, and proclaimed that, with the new training regimen, the Admiralität in its entirety could guarantee that the Russians could, in short order, be brought to the negotiating table in disgrace - provided France could be kept out of the war "as His Excellency, the Herzog, had so insightfully remarked".

The evening proved to be a massive success for the Admiralty - and von Mecklenburg personally. The Kaiser's support had been achieved; and the immediate threat of a Franco-Russian alliance was being addressed, for Wilhelm near-immediately appointed von Mecklenburg his personal envoy to Paris, with instructions to delay or outright sabotage the Paris / Moscow rapprochement.

"What a fellow!" Wilhelm is said to have remarked after the meeting. "A battleship might be too little for me to name after him."

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The situation in late February. Note the crushing numerical superiority of the Royal Navy in capital ships; but also note the near-equivalency between the Russian and German fleets. Also note that Galster's cruiser doctrine is steadily paying dividents - the German cruiser fleet is considerably heavier than their Russian analogues, but Russia leads in DDs.

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In March, news arrived that Russia was mobilising her fleet and engaging in extended maneuvers in the Baltic. Germany tensed up in response. The Auswärtiges Amt worked overtime to prevent a war, von Bülow finding an opportunity to get back into the Kaiser's good graces. But von Mecklenburg wasn't idle either. In Paris, he brought up the Russian saber-rattling and questioned whether the French were willing to get drawn into a war simply because of Russia's ruffled pride. Germany had no objection to Russia and France establishing a defensive alliance (he assured them), for Germany would never attack any of her neighbours unprovoked; but what if the Russians attacked first?

(https://s10.postimg.cc/c7hlsascp/Screenshot_2838.png)

By the end of the month, the Russians had promised to place most of their ships in reserve after the end of the maneuvers; and von Mecklenburg had returned to Berlin with the assurance of the French  ministre des Affaires étrangères Théophile Delcassé that, if Russia were to be the aggressor in a war, France would remain neutral but, if Germany were to precipitate a war, France would honour her defensive pact with Russia.

Von Tirpitz and Galster rejoiced; and Wilhelm was ecstatic.

(https://s10.postimg.cc/3qi3hdnnt/Screenshot_2839.png)

More good news - private shipbuilding contributed to the further expansion of the German shipyards. In less than ten months, Germany would be able to build 20k ton ships!

(https://s10.postimg.cc/ksaxjh2ix/Screenshot_2840.png)

And then, in early April, news arrived from Moscow. The Russians were channeling more funds into their navy, followed by more saber-rattling. Von Bülow suggested a strong, no-nonsense (even military) response by the Germans and Wilhelm, originally, was inclined to agree. But then a missive from von Mecklenburg arrived, begging the Kaiser to assume a more restrained stance. Russia had to be maneuvered into declaring war - and Germany should not be perceived as the aggressor, come what may.

"This is the greatest opportunity for Your Majesty to forever be remembered as one of the shrewdest statesmen of Europe," von Mecklenburg wrote, playing on Wilhelm's deepest desires and underlying insecurities.

And Wilhelm vaccillated - and finally decided to follow von Mecklenburg's advice. His change of heart can easily be seen in what came to be known as the Willy-Nicky correspondence, with his final letters to the Czar Nicholas II reading as cold, diplomatic statements rather than personal missives. War was now inevitable - it was all about who would break first.

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In April, with war imminent, Galster rejoiced when the R & D department reported that manufacture of new torpedoes, with a maximum range of two thousand yards was now possible.

(https://s10.postimg.cc/isyx5sxl5/Screenshot_2844.png)

And intriguing developments in the field of submarine warfare also took place.

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In early May, SMS Freya completed her shakedown cruise just in time to join the battle-line...

(https://s10.postimg.cc/3msvev7k9/Screenshot_2846.png)

And new hydraulic-recoil systems were integrated into the German naval gun mountings. Von Tirpitz was near-leaping for joy.

(https://s10.postimg.cc/ywbe5lz49/Screenshot_2848.png)

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 01, 2017, 05:03:34 pm
You've certainly got an interesting international challenge ahead of you. Under Kaiser Wilhelm rule, Germany managed to piss off every major power in Europe, coming from a state of making everyone hate France thanks to Bismarck.

I look forward to seeing how you'll handle the Royal Navy.
Title: First Dance
Post by: Enioch on March 02, 2017, 12:22:51 pm
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In the early morning of the 15th of May, the German Fleet offered battle off the coast of Finland. The armies of the two nations were already engaged across the border areas, with no territorial gains as of yet; the Admiralty sought to score an early success.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/rr4wt61uj/Screenshot_2851.png)

First contact took place shortly after daybreak, at 9:49, when the scouting force of the German fleet encountered their Russian counterparts.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/4qy9gu40r/Screenshot_2852.png)

The German fleet was arranged in three separate task forces:

(https://s7.postimg.cc/rtosg05i3/Screenshot_2853.png)

The forward scouting force was comprised of the three heavy cruisers Hertha, Victoria Louise and Freya, under the overall command of Konteradmiral Galster, who had chosen Hertha as his flag.

Following this force, was a screening element of three light cruisers: Hela, Nymphe and Frauenlob, under the command of Kapitän zur See Henning von Holtzendorff.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/pqed8c5p7/Screenshot_2854.png)

Bringing up the rear was the German battle-fleet: the four Schwaben-class battleships and their destroyer escorts. SMS Braunschweig served as the flagship of Vize-Admiral Wilhelm Büchsel, one of von Tirpitz's protégés.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/rjh9wnqvv/Screenshot_2855.png)

Upon confirming contact with the enemy, Galster ordered a turn to port, with the intention of offering battle and delaying the enemy forces until a) their exact composition could be verified and b) Büchsel's battle-line could join him. The Russian ships mirrored his maneuver and the range started slowly closing. The breeze favoured the Russians, as the southern wind blew the Germans' smoke into their own rangefinders.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/5yc791u57/Screenshot_2856.png)

Twenty minutes after first contact, Galster ordered his ships to turn sharply toward the north, to close the range and get a better look at the enemy force composition. His lookouts reported at least one capital ship in the lead, with a truly massive escorting force. Galster was unshaken and continued to close - he considered it highly unlikely that the Russians would lead with one of their battleships.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/kita3vp3v/Screenshot_2857.png)

Five minutes later, his prediction proved true, as the lookouts identified the enemy flagship as a Rossiya-class armored cruiser.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/u4muk6g9n/Screenshot_2858.png)

The Rossiyas were very good ships: a knot faster than the Victoria Louises, they mounted a heavier secondary broadside, but were more lightly armored and they only mounted 10'' main armament, in contrast to the German 11'' rifles.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/hq54gyv2z/Screenshot_2859.png)

Having confirmed that he was dealing with a Russian scouting / cruiser force, Galster ordered his force to turn away under flank, just out of the Russians' range. As he steamed toward the south-east, he identified several more cruisers, including a second Rossiya and many lighter ships.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/wndlhz8bf/Screenshot_2860.png)

As the Russians pursued, Galster led them directly towards Büchsel's battleships. At 10:30, the Braunschweig spotted the enemy and started training her guns to engage. Büchsel signalled Galster to "maneuver independently and provide supporting fire"; the heavy cruisers immediately changed their course once again, to flank the enemy force.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/fbd8wjeu3/Screenshot_2861.png)

The first shots were fired at 10:38; shortly afterwards, the Russian ships reversed course and steamed north in full retreat. Büchsel pursued at flank; Galster maneuvered further to the north, to scout out any potential Russian reinforcements. The Russian battlefleet was suspiciously absent and Galster wanted to make sure that the Russians were not trying to repeat his own baiting operation.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/bt1905dy3/Screenshot_2862.png)

The wild evasive maneuvers of the Russians cost them considerably in speed; meanwhile, the Schwaben's high speed proved to be a valuable asset. With the Germans catching up, the Russians proceeded to desperately turn towards the south. Büchsel had managed to turn the tables; now it was the Russians who struggled to fire through their own smoke. They still managed to score a hit on Braunschweig, but the battlewagon's armor was not penetrated.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/af9m4ueor/Screenshot_2863.png)

At 11:20, Wettin and Zähringen score their first hits on the Rossiyas. The German battleships engage in a running battle with the Russian cruiser fleet; disappointingly, very few hits are scored. The volume of fire the Russians are receiving makes it impossible to distinguish between shell splashes and to adjust fire.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/atay4fysb/Screenshot_2864.png)

At 11:33, Galster changes course and cuts through the German battle-line, in hot pursuit of the Russian light cruisers, that are outright fleeing toward the south. As his ships pass between the battlewagons, he signals to Büchsel "ENEMY CONTACT : ABS-BEAR 355 : CLOSING".

The Russian battle-fleet has deigned to make an appearance at last.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/4gvsulvq3/Screenshot_2865.png)

And they're not a minute too soon. The Russian scouting task force has disintegrated completely. Galster is doggedly hunting down two Diana-class cruisers towards the south, while the German battlewagons are still duelling the Rossiyas, who are proving to be particularly hard nuts to crack. Highly conscious of the potential torpedo danger, Büchsel is not willing to close the range beyond 5,000 yards.

Eventually, Büchsel decides to abandon pursuit and focus on the light cruiser force as well - perhaps they can be destroyed completely before the Russian battleships can shift the balance?

(https://s7.postimg.cc/d0f6sd42j/Screenshot_2866.png)

He turns south, allowing the Rossiyas to esccape, and engages the Dianas. Galster, further to the south, shifts his fire to a squadron of Pallada and Vesta-class cruisers.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/58ygtszx7/Screenshot_2867.png)

The German light cruisers join their fire to the fray, and prove to be more successful than the battleships. Their rapid-firing 6-inchers score several hits on the Dianas

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ype2w86aj/Screenshot_2868.png)

Unfortunately, the Russians utilise their speed and maneuverability and drag the German fleet into a large 'hook', back towards the north...

(https://s7.postimg.cc/azt8l9xaz/Screenshot_2869.png)

...where enemy contacts are now clearly visible.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jw40p7nx7/Screenshot_2870.png)

Then - more contacts, from an unanticipated direction. Enemy capital ships are silhouetted against the sky, closing in from the west.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/rq4malvq3/Screenshot_2871.png)

Büchsel immediately shifts his battleships to intercept. His light cruisers dart in and identify the incoming battlewagons, before peeling off to a safer distance.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/j1hh36g2j/Screenshot_2876.png)

All four known Russian battleships are here!

(https://s7.postimg.cc/veuba35qz/Screenshot_2875.png)

The Petr Veliki is an older design: she's only armed with 10-inch guns and she's relatively lightly armored, but she carries a truly heavy secondary armament. Nothing that can truly threaten the Schwabens, but no light cruiser or destroyer should enter her engagement range.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/4egilihgb/Screenshot_2873.png)

The two Pavel I-class ships, on the other hand, are as modern as they come. Again, their secondary armament puts the Schwabens to shame, their armor is nothing to sneeze at and their guns are massive 12-inchers. They are, however, slower than her German analogues, by a significant 3 knots.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/779q5jhsr/Screenshot_2872.png)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/5wmnbeucv/hibiki_and_verniy_kantai_collection_drawn_by_i.jpg)

And then there's this...thing. Somebody's been at the vodka again, I see.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/m9lyg82cb/Screenshot_2877.png)

The Germans form line of battle. The Russians form...a blob of battle?

(https://s9.postimg.cc/w67pu7ga7/9eb2856ac7a719ff91323032c2200e5d.jpg)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ieikdnj6j/Screenshot_2878.png)

Meanwhile, Galster scrapes the paint off one of the Dianas, at under a thousand yards. No hits. Exasperated, he turns to Kapitän zur See Markus Geier and exclaims "I should have listened to Tirpitz and asked for more gunnery training. Our men couldn't hit the enemy if they were dancing the Hopak in front of our guns!"

(https://s7.postimg.cc/mp1tmzdnf/Screenshot_2879.png)

Büchsel's not doing any better. He's crossed the Russians' T in a textbook maneuver; and yet the Schwabens' guns refuse to behave. Thankfully, the Russians are once again firing into their own smoke; the German battleline is likewise unharmed.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/t40ujnkd7/Screenshot_2880.png)

Von Holtzendorff, similarly exasperated, brings his own cruisers into a knife-fight against the panicking Russian light ships, as light rain begins to fall. At a range of less than 1,000 yards, he scores no hits. By now, the German commanders are close to pulling their beards off in impotent rage.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/oeqzvnc4v/missing_target.jpg)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/iigz7ne1n/Screenshot_2881.png)

And then, a shell penetrates the Nymphe's engineering, kills thirty crewmen, floods her feed tanks with seawater and drops her speed to five knots. As the other German cruisers cluster around her, the Russians fade into the rain.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ijqx12fvf/Screenshot_2882.png)

The battlewagons are finally having some more luck. For once, they are not concentrating several ships' worth of firepower onto a single target and their firing control can get clear solutions. Zähringen and Braunschweig are duelling the Petr Veliki and the Pamyat Azova and score several hits.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/78o9cp90b/Screenshot_2883.png)

Braunschweig takes some damage in return, but her damcon crews patch her up relatively quickly.

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At this point, visibility has fallen to under 5,000 yards. Büchsel decides that continuing the fight is nonsensical, especially given that there are over a dozen unspotted Russian torpedo boats in the area. He signals the fleet to return to base.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/b8veoxzh7/Screenshot_2886.png)

The mood is sullen and resentful. The fleet operated by the book; and yet results were disappointing. True, the Russians had been beaten back by what, in paper, was an inferior force; but the Germans had hoped for a decisive victory (especially given the inferior quality of the Russian ships) and they had been denied that.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jfnegipjv/Screenshot_2887.png)

The Kaiser was not happy.

NOTE: As you may have noticed, I have slightly edited the screenshots, with ship 'trails', to make following the ship movements easier. This takes some time and effort and I want to make sure it's time and effort well-invested. Please let me know what you think; is this noticeably better for you, or confusing?

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 02, 2017, 12:38:13 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a cripple fight.
Starting off with the biggest fleet engagement we've seen yet, and end an amazing number of zero ships sunk  :lol:

The ship trails do make it a bit easier to see what's going on.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 02, 2017, 12:59:55 pm
I noticed the trails, and I have to say they're massively useful for following the action.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 02, 2017, 01:01:28 pm
Thirded. Please keep the trails.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 02, 2017, 01:06:39 pm
That Pamyat Azova class though...  (http://cdn-messrm-na.gcdn.co/static/4.7/style_emoticons/wows/look.gif)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Droid803 on March 02, 2017, 01:10:35 pm
I do like the trails.

Also lol that battleship with noguns
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 02, 2017, 01:18:37 pm
OK, so I think that everybody liked the trails. They will, therefore, stay.

I am currently lacking anything comparable to the massive Kantai fandom to draw funnies from. So things might be a bit more serious than the Japanese campaign. If there's anything that you think would fit the theme, poke me with it and I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Col. Fishguts on March 02, 2017, 02:26:13 pm
As someone who doesn't play the game and is regularly confused on what he's looking at, yes the ship trails help a lot :)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scotty on March 02, 2017, 03:14:35 pm
I think having a fantastic (literally speaking) and humorous Japanese playthrough naturally begs for a 100% serious no humor allowed German playthrough.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 02, 2017, 03:25:21 pm
[leutnant]WAR IS A SERIOUS MATTER! **** YOU![/leutnant]
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on March 02, 2017, 04:34:36 pm
Mein Kaiser, our fleet's performance like that was like a punch from a weak left arm! It is unthinkable that the left arm of our fleet, our battleships, were not supported by a strong right arm of destroyer torpedo runs!

please make as much fun as possible out of Kaiser ****ing Wilheim.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on March 02, 2017, 06:43:40 pm
Once again the Gulf of Finland proves to be difficult for fleets exchanging fire!

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The Germans form line of battle. The Russians form...a blob of battle?

That's actually surprisingly accurate historically.

Since its mid May, the Gulf is not frozen anymore. Would be interesting to see a winter marine engagement - with pack ice...

Makes me wonder how well does the game simulate the actual depth of the Gulf. From what I've understood, straying from the mapped lines carries a significant risk of running aground anywhere near the mainland of Finland.

Also, this
(https://i.imgflip.com/1kobth.jpg)

Let those slaughterships rule the seas!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 02, 2017, 07:59:30 pm
Mein Kaiser, our fleet's performance like that was like a punch from a weak left arm! It is unthinkable that the left arm of our fleet, our battleships, were not supported by a strong right arm of destroyer torpedo runs!

You try to convince KFW that destroyers are a necessary part of a battle-line. Galster has almost given up trying.

Would be interesting to see a winter marine engagement - with pack ice...

Not directly simulated - although winter engagements have a higher chance of limiting ship speed because of weather.

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Makes me wonder how well does the game simulate the actual depth of the Gulf. From what I've understood, straying from the mapped lines carries a significant risk of running aground anywhere near the mainland of Finland.

It doesn't, I'm afraid. Those areas of the Gulf that are too shallow are marked as 'swampland' / coastal shallows and ships will flat out refuse to enter them (they'll treat them as minefields).
Title: Die Bornholmschlacht
Post by: Enioch on March 03, 2017, 07:24:33 am
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"After the Finlandschlacht, His Majesty was very angry with the performance of the Kaiserliche Marine. We had promised His Majesty a quick, decisive victory and had failed to deliver it. This was partly because of the incomplete training of our crews and, for that, the responsibility lay solely upon the Admiralität. But a significant part in the inconclusive battle was also played by the weather, which had prevented us from properly acquiring targets, even at extremely close ranges.

"More significantly, it became evident that positioning our ships in such a way as to maximise the number of ships firing on a single target was not a viable tactic. I can confirm that, during the battle, it was impossible to distinguish the splashes of Hertha's shells from those of Victoria Louise, or even the light cruisers! We had to instruct our officers to adopt a 'duelling' approach. Each ship's commanding officer was instructed to select targets that were currently unengaged above all others.

"But His Majesty harangued and criticised the Admiralität most severely for what he perceived to be our failings; and insisted that the Fleet pursue a more agggressive stance. In all frankness, this was the Admiralität's opinion also. Thankfully, His Excellency, the Herzog championed our cause to a considerable degree."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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No, Wilhelm wasn't pleased at all; but both von Bülow and von Mecklenburg laboured separately to support the Admiralität. Von Mecklenburg, in particular, invited the Admirals once more to his Berlin residence and requested that they point out what they thought the main problems with the German tactics so far had been. By this point, both von Tirpitz and Galster perceived the Herzog as a political ally; and were eager to discuss their future plans. Von Mecklenburg had firmly established himself as a supporter of the Kaiserliche Marine - even more so, when, in a callback to his Colonial service, he funded the dredging up of Tanga's military harbour, with the goal of converting it into a major coaling station for the colonial fleet.

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With Mecklenburg only six months away from completion, the Admiralität played a game of cat-and-mouse with the Russian Fleet, buying time.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/sgrlwj6tr/Screenshot_2891.png)

In early June, the Russian cruiser Nadezdha managed to sneak into German territorial waters and sank the freighter Rheingold.

This was the straw that broke the camel's back. With the German and Russian armies bogged down in tentative jabs and forays, Wilhelm ordered that the Flotte mobilize in full and "teach those Gotverdammte Russians their place."

(https://s9.postimg.cc/ixhx32jbj/Screenshot_2892.png)

Tirpitz was hesitant about commiting the battlefleet; but Galster employed his cruiser forces to great effect. On the 15th of June, Hertha and Freya engaged three Russian light cruisers in the Baltic Sea.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/42tbow9qn/Screenshot_2893.png)

The Russians turned and ran under fire, denying battle; this cheered up Wilhelm to some extent.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/f3ogtx1zj/Screenshot_2894.png)

It also emboldened Galster. For a followup, he led Hertha and Victoria Louise, accompanied by Frauenlob and three Zerstörer to Saaremaa.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/pf0tmktov/Screenshot_2895.png)

There, he bombarded Russian coastal fortifications and sank four merchant vessels, avenging the Rheingold with added interest. Wilhelm, mollified, acknowledged the value of lighter forces for the first time; and allowed von Meclenburg to award Galster with the Grand Commander's Cross of the Order of the Griffon for his service, on behalf of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

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Tirpitz could not allow Galster to take all the glory. On the 17th of July, he sent out the entirety of his battlefield on a daring raid on Russian shipping, near Bornholm.

(https://s27.postimg.cc/gxpd5jwur/image.jpg)

This time, the Russians responded.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/jteeiiszz/Screenshot_2897.png)

The time is a quarter past noon, just to the east of Bornholm. The entirety of the German battleline is present, escorted by Galster's cruisers.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/spts078zz/Screenshot_2898.png)

The weather, unfortunately, is, once again, overcast; and it is raining lightly. Visibility is...less than ideal. A stiff breeze blows from the east.

The Frauenlob, Victoria Louise and Freya are spread out in front of the fleet, as a scouting element. This time around, Galster is holding his flagship, Hertha, in reserve, near the battleships.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/h1zq5njv3/Screenshot_2899.png)

15:34: Contact! Victoria Louise spots an enemy capital ship emerging from a nearby fogbank.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/hg12593yn/Screenshot_2900.png)

Scratch that - two capitals. The Germans immediately re-arrange their fleet. The scouting elements fall back; the battleships maneuver to form line of battle. Wettin fires the first shot!

(https://s9.postimg.cc/4d5flzdqn/Screenshot_2901.png)

Ten minutes later, the secondaries of Wettin score first blood. This time around, the firing discipline of the Germans is much improved; each of the German battleships is engaging a different enemy capital.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/pbblk2dlb/Screenshot_2902.png)

The two battle-lines thunder at each other at under 5,000 yards. Both fleets are holding formation for now; but the German heavy cruisers are almost ready to lend their own fire to the line.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/wftet3kun/Screenshot_2903.png)

16:22. Wettin peppers one of the Pavels with secondary fire; she receives a hit in return, but her armor holds strong. Hertha, on the other hand, is hit by incendiary ammunition; her superstructure bursts in flames.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/p1430pyz3/Screenshot_2904.png)

Galster curses bitterly and signals the Victoria Louise to assume command of the cruiser forces; Hertha pulls out of the battleline and cuts her speed, to allow damcon crews to get to work fighting the flames. Wettin keeps up the withering barrage of secondary fire on the Pavel.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/qhfliv1vz/Screenshot_2905.png)

16:44. The fire on Hertha is extinguished and Galster orders flank speed and rushes to rejoin the line. Further to the north, Braunschweig scores a main battery hit on the Petr Veliki; and Zähringen strikes the second Pavel.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/tpk2vwo5r/Screenshot_2906.png)

Büchsel will not be denied this time around. The battleships serpentine in parallel with the Russian fleet; presenting alternating good and bad targets. This confuses the Russian gunners.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/iehf7jhan/Screenshot_2907.png)

Meanwhile, during his mad rush to rejoin the battle-line, Galster runs across a Russian torpedoboat, that charges in for an attack. The entirety of Hertha's starboard secondary and tertiary battery erupts in fire and thunder. The Gremyashchy-class destroyer is blown out of the water and Hertha plows on, undaunted and unslowed.

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Wettin, Braunschweig and Schwaben are closely engaging the Russian fleet; Zähringen has fallen behind, for unknown reasons. Büchsel curses bitterly, for he is now outnumbered. Even worse, Zähringen is firing at the Pamyat Azova and messing up Wettin's targeting.

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The pursuit continues. Once again, the Schwaben-class' high speed helps the Germans dictate the battle.

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18:40. Büchsel notes that the Petr Veliki is losing speed. He sees an opportunity and hoists the 'flotilla attack' signal. The three Zerstörer V3, V4 and V6 swing to the attack. Unfortunately, V6 is immediately struck by one of the Pietr Veliki's secondaries. Her single torpedo explodes on her mount. The ship shudders; but her machinery is still operational and she continues her mad charge, as bait if nothing else.

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The three destroyers cross the Schwaben's wake and charge down the Pietr. Schwaben keeps up her own fire and scores another main battery hit and a secondary hit on the Russian's superstructure.

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The Pietr maneuvers wildly to avoid the German ships but, at 500 yards, V4 launches her single torpedo. The destroyer flotilla then turns away, seeking safety behind Schwaben's armor.

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The torpedo explosion blows a fountain of water sky-high. The Pietr shudders; her guns fall silent and she slows down even further. The German fleet erupts in cheers.

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Galster maneuvers Hertha next to the hulk and opens up with main and secondary guns; twenty minutes later, the Pietr slips under the waves.

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Büchsel, from on board the Braunschweig orders Schwaben and the destroyers to reform with the fleet; but Schwaben's captain, Kapitän zur Zee Nikolaus Bernuth, charges in, to keep the enemy spotted in the gloom. He puts her in a wild serpentine, to avoid incoming fire; and has her secondaries fire star-shells over the enemy ships. The entire fleet converges on her position.

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Schwaben then uses her speed to cut in front of one of the Pavels. Zähringen and Hertha are not far behind.

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The entire fleet swings past the Russian battleship. Hertha and Zähringen score hits with their main armament; and the cruisers completely obliterate her DD escort.

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Then, the destroyers move in. V3 launches a torp at close range and scores a hit.

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She's still fighting; and she has her own torpedo launchers. The Germans know they've hurt her; they are hesitant to take any risks. Büchsel orders his ships to open the range.

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21:16. The Pavel increases her speed and tries to escape towards the east. The Germans pursue.

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It doesn't take long for them to corner her again. She is now completely alone; the rest of the Russian fleet having retreated in the evening gloom.

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22:19. Disaster strikes. The Pavel launches a torpedo that strikes the Freya amidships. Her keel snaps. She lists, flips over and sinks in under a minute.

The Germans are horrified; Galster more than anyone. In a single fell swoop, he has lost a third of his heavy cruiser fleet; and almost eight hundred sailors and officers.

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But Büchsel grasps the opportunity. Knowing that the Pavel has launched her fish, he closes in with his battleships for the kill. Schwaben scores two main battery hits; and the Pavel follows the Freya to the bottom of the sea.

The fleet turns to return to port-

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-and then, out of the night, a light cruiser appears on Zähringen's starboard side. The German battlewagon turns, desperately-

(https://s9.postimg.cc/rp7bgaw5r/Screenshot_2929.png)

-but to no avail. She eats a torpedo and her superstructure is raked by multiple high-explosive shells before she can bring her guns to bear.

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Thankfully, her damcon crews are on-point and her captain orders an emergency stop to avoid stressing the bulkheads. The Diana turns to bring her other launcher to bear-

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-and is promptly blown out of the water by Zähringen's secondaries and Victoria Louise's 11-inchers.

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It takes the crew of the Zähringen less than 10 minutes to stop the flooding. She has suffered considerable damage, but she's still afloat and seaworthy; she can even almost do cruise speed.

At this point, all commanders agree that they cannot expect any better results. They make best steam back to Danzig; the fleet reaches harbor by 6:00 am on the 18th of July.

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The stricken Zähringen after the Bornholmschlacht

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A bloody victory, but a glorious one, nonetheless! Tirpitz strutted like a rooster.

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The Russian losses. Two battleships, including the Retvizan, one of their most modern battlewagons; the light cruiser Avrora and three destroyers.

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The Germans only lost the Freya. A grievous loss, true; but a bittersweet one, given the toll they had exacted upon their enemies.

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And, this time, the Germans could not complain about their gunnery. The Zähringen and Schwaben performed spectacularly, with more than 700 shells fired between them and almost 40 hits scored.
 
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A more precise map of the ship movements, (for the naval historians - many thanks to the Admiralitätsarchiv for their kind permission to reproduce this)! Note the two 'knots' near the centre of the map - that's where the two Russian battleships sank.

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The Battle of Bornholm! A glorious new beginning for the Kaiserliche Marine!

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 03, 2017, 07:54:41 am
A glorious day for the Kaiserliche Marine!

Since I know next to nothing about this game, all I can do is help out with language.
Mika, you made a nice meme but the proper grammar is "Es schlachtet Schiffe".

Diese verdammten Russen will regret the day they picked a fight with the Reich. Gott mit uns!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 03, 2017, 08:38:56 am
A glorious sortie for the High Seas Fleet. :yes:

I assume once ze R&D discover the advanced technology of "paint ball rounds" they can effectively focus fire again? :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 03, 2017, 08:41:54 am
A glorious sortie for the High Seas Fleet. :yes:

I assume once ze R&D discover the advanced technology of "paint ball rounds" they can effectively focus fire again? :P

Exactly
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on March 03, 2017, 05:08:45 pm
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It doesn't, I'm afraid. Those areas of the Gulf that are too shallow are marked as 'swampland' / coastal shallows and ships will flat out refuse to enter them (they'll treat them as minefields).

Dang it, no chance of something like this occurring then.
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(The picture is U-363 that run aground in Swedish territorial waters in 1981. Navigational equipment failure was given as a reason). I imagine the region near the City of Turku being particularly prone for this. Finland has the greatest number of islands in the world (Archipelago of Finland), but nobody says anything about the size of those islands  ;7

Gulf of Finland and the Baltic Sea have historically been areas where there have been lesser known large marine confrontations, some of them ending up as mehs (like battle of Hogland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hogland)), while some of them rather lopsided like the the battle of Gangut (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gangut), and the battle of Juminda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_evacuation_of_Tallinn). EDIT: In Juminda, The Soviet fleet was forced to seek shelter at harbor near Tallinn, and the risk of getting captured grew all the time, so the decision was made to attempt a breakthrough. This breakthrough happened to require steaming through a Finnish-German mine field. Estimated 12 000 people died in this alone, a significant number of them being unfortunately civilians.
Title: Running the Blockade
Post by: Enioch on March 04, 2017, 11:57:41 am
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"The loss of the Freya was a great blow for our cruiser fleet, but there was no denying that Bornholm had been a spectacular victory for the Vaterland. Upon receiving the news that half of the Russian battlefleet had been sunk, His Majesty's spirits soared. He became particularly expressive and diffuse in his praise; and he would often refer to the fleet as 'meine Helden aufs Meer'.

"More importantly, it became possible for me to better promote the importance of the light forces in a battle-line. Where the cruiser raids of the previous months had shown His Majesty the utility and wide range of options that a strong cruiser fleet provides, Bornholm demonstrated the importance of our Zerstörer. Both of the lost enemy battleships had been softened up by our own battle-line; but it was the torpedoes of our destroyer flotilla that ultimately sent them to the bottom - and Freya had been lost to a torpedo attack.

"Upon our debriefing, Herr von Tirpitz and myself decided that our future doctrine had to take into account how these small craft could decisively affect the outcome of a battle. However, unsurprisingly, we disagreed considerably on what course we should pursue..."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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With a crushing numerical- and tonnage superiority over the Russians achieved, Büchsel establishes a distant blockade on the Russian ports. The German battlefleet is sufficient to keep the Russians bottled into the Baltic; and the Russian forces stationed in the Far East are so anemic that the German Gefions stationed there can, likewise, keep them contained. Tirpitz turns to the R & D department, for new, better options. Unfortunately, the engineers have little to show for their efforts.

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And, meanwhile, the Russians take advantage of organisational problems encountered by the blockading forces to slip three raiders past the blockade. The Diana, Bayan and Nadezhda sink eight German freighters over the space of a month. Büchsel is at his wits' end and being heavily pressured by Tirpitz to do something: he can keep the Russian capitals and merchant traffic contained, but his battlewagons are too slow to intercept the fast Russian raiders.

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Under his prompting, Galster and von Holtzendorff meet and draw up a battle plan; they dispatch the German Gazelles as fast interceptors. And their efforts are rewarded on the 19th of August, when the Frauenlob detects and engages the Diana, in the open sea near Skagerrak.

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Diana has half an inch more of belt armor, but her guns are on shielded deck mounts instead of armored turrets, she is three knots slower and eleven hundred tons lighter than the Frauenlob.

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The outcome of the battle was never in question. The German rakes her decks with high-explosive, silences her broadside and punishes her with close-range gunnery, until the Russian ship is a smoking wreck.

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The Frauenlob's log recorded 56 hits scored, to only six received. The intensive gunnery training ofthe German crews was paying off dividents.

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Von Holtzendorff received much praise for sinking the Russian raider - the loss of the ship limited the options of the Russians considerably.

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At the end of the month, the Kaiser convened a war council. The land war was proceeding as well as could be expected, with the German army scoring considerable successes in the Baltic front; but Wilhelm was primarily concerned about the successes of his navy. He declared his complete satisfaction with how his forces had conducted the war so far (although he noted that they should have been much more aggressive during the early war months, given the Bornholm success), but expressed some concern regarding their future plans.

"The Russians are hiding in their harbors," he declared, "and you cannot draw them out. But nor can you keep them in, given that they're sinking our ships. What then shall you do, gentlemen?"

The Admiralität had been preparing for such a question. Von Mecklenburg had, once again, brought Tirpitz and Galster together and had hammered out a compromise. Tirpitz presented the Staff's new doctrine:

First, the battle-fleet would tighten the blockade of the Russian ports, and wait for the commissioning of the Mecklenburg before offering battle to the Russians. That would guarantee 2.5-to-1 odds in capital hulls. And if the Russians refused battle, the Germans would bring it to them: minesweepers would push into the Baltic and clear the enemy minefields, allowing the German battle-line to bombard coastal targets and ports.

"But what of the enemy raiders?" demanded the Kaiser. "How do you propose to stop them?"

This, explained Tirpitz, was the second part of the plan. He admitted (with a sour face) that Konteradmiral Galster's cruiser forces had proven themselves the only ships capable of tracking down and engaging the enemy forces. Unfortunately, the budget could not support the construction of new cruisers - and the war would be over by the time they left the slipways anyway.

The mood in the room fell immediately. "It was amazing to see," Galster writes,"His Majesty, always a defendder of the battleship, scowling at the news that we would not be building new cruisers." Thankfully, the Admiralität had a ready answer.

First, Tirpitz explained, the colonial bases would be further dredged up and funds set aside for the construction of coaling stations in Africa and the Pacific. The total cost of this massive upgrading of colonial infrastructure would cost less than half a cruiser and the works would be completed within a year. This would allow the German cruisers to operate in a much wider theater of operations and give them world-wide reach.

"D__n me if that isn't von Mecklenburg speaking!" the Kaiser exclaimed by the end of the proposal. "I agree, gentlemen, proceed!"

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Tirpitz was not finished, however. He also submitted for the Kaiser's perusal the blueprints for a new iteration on the older Zerstörer designs: a ship of 600 tons, with improved speed and torpedo armament. The Großadmiral was uncharacteristically chipper as he presented the engineers work - and the Kaiser noticed.

"Well then, von Tirpitz," he chuckled, "back to designing torpedoboats, I see? Very well, I suppose these toy boats of yours have proven their worth. But not a single Mark is to be taken from the battleship budget, do you understand?"

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His good mood would, unfortunately, not last long. Throughout September the reports came in: of Russian raiders running the blockade and sinking German freighters in the North Sea and the Atlantic. The losses were not heavy, but they grated and the Admiralität had long since realised that an annoyed Kaiser was not someone easy to work with.

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Some entertainment was had when Military Intelligence "acquired" the plans of the British Bedford-class battleship. What were the Brits thinking?

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But the Russian raiding campaign continued well into October.

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This time around, however, the cruiser fleet passed their test with flying colors. Korvettenkapitän Henckel von Donnersmack had drawn up a detailed map of Russian raider sightings and traced their preferred sea routes. He then led his own small Gefion-class cruiser, the Nymphe on an independent intercept mission south of Ireland. He there spotted and engaged the Pamyat Merkuriya, eventually sinking the smaller Russian ship.

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His victory was received with great enthusiasm in Berlin; and the Kaiser's spirits rose significantly with the commissioning of the final Schwaben-class battleship, the Mecklenburg. The commissioning was a grand affair, especially given the Herzog's recent rise in the Berlin political scene; his wife, the Prinzessin Elisabeth Sybille von Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (who was also an increasingly well-known philanthropist) was called to organise the post-commissioning ball - which was a resounding success in Berliner high society.

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And then, some good news from R & D! Improved safety valves were almost ready to be employed in warship boilers.

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The Russian raiders scored more successes in November, but both Tirpitz and Büchsel were grimly satisfied. Two of the Russian raiders were confirmed to have been heavy cruisers, decidedly unsuited for raiding work. If the Russians were deploying those, that meant that they were running out of dedicated raiders - and exposing their capital ships to the danger of running the blockade.

It was only a matter of time before-

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-that.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on March 04, 2017, 02:31:40 pm
NO MISTER FISHER, NO
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 04, 2017, 02:45:52 pm
NO MISTER FISHER, NO

 :lol:

This is going to be a 'thing' now, won't it?

EDIT: Also, I just finished this game (i.e. played all the way to January 1950) in my bus ride back from London. There has never been a time where I resented this hard cutoff point more.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 04, 2017, 09:01:14 pm
Oh man, those single russian torpedo mounts, I was worried for the Zähringen for a moment (https://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ohdear.png)

And now, time for round 3



He he he he 'cockburn'
Title: Die Gotlandschlacht
Post by: Enioch on March 05, 2017, 06:59:03 am
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"When the Russian fleet sortied to meet us, I knew that this was the opportunity we were expecting. My battle-line was not ready, because the Mecklenburg was still on her shakedown cruise; but I could not let this chance at destroying the enemy pass. Konteradmiral Galster only had the Hertha on station, but we had a good screening force of Zerstörer and light cruisers, so I decided to engage with my four battleships against their expected two and, hopefully, win this day for my Kaiser and my Vaterland.

-Vizeadm. Büchsel W 1926, The Baltic Campaign: Commentary on Naval Tactics, Valkyria Verlag: Dresden


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It is dawn, of the 21st of November 1901. The Hochseeflotte is sailing north into the Baltic, the coast of Finland to their east.

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The German fleet consists of the four active-service Schwabens, all veterans by now. They are closely escorted by three Zerstörer and the Nymphe as a screening element. Far ahead of the fleet, from his flagship on the Hertha, Galster is leading the scouting cruisers Hela and Frauenlob.

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07:50 - Contact! At least two capital ships and their escort. The German fleet beats to quarters and the battlewagons accellerate to flank. Galster orders his light cruisers to fall back and takes the Hertha closer, for a detailed assessment of the enemy squadron strength. He identifies two light cruisers and confirms that the capitals are, in fact, the Russian battleships.

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He closes in further and opens fire at long range at the leading, Diana-class light cruiser. His lookouts also spot a destroyer flotilla escorting the battlewagons and identify the latter: the Pavel is leading and the Pamyat Azova is following in her wake.

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08:26 - Both Hertha and the Diana-class disengage and fall back to their battle-lines; the German battleships are closing the range, with Zähringen leading the charge this time around.

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Büchsel forms his battle-line to the west of the Russians, to take advantage of the wind. The Russians hesitate - and then turn in to engage. The Pavel is almost immediately hit by one of the Braunschweig's shells.

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09:11 - The two fleets are sailing in parallel, exchanging fire.

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Zähringen has received some hits and her forward turret is jammed, but she's still in the fight and leading the battle-line. Her armor is reliably bouncing shells from the Pavel's secondaries.

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The Russians keep turning away from the German battle-line, but the Germans are faster and maneuver to follow. The result is an ever-narrowing spiral, with the Russians at the centre.

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11:19 - The Russians turn to flee. The Germans have closed the range and are scoring repeated hits; the light cruisers are now engaging the Russian destroyer escort.

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It doesn't take long for the German battle-line to catch up. The stokers of both fleets are exhausted, after almost three hours of flank speed, but the Germans are still faster and they smoothly slot onto the Russians' side once more.

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Then - the lookouts report a fire on the Pavel's deck. The Russian battle-wagon burns quite well and she seeks refuge behind her destroyers. Ideally, the Russian commander would be retreating to a harbor by now.

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However, the Germans have maneuvered to cut off his escape into the gulf of Finland.

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The Russian turns away toward the west, to escape the German guns; the German battleships follow in close pursuit. Büchsel splits up his forces: Wettin, Braunschweig and Hertha flank the Russians from the south, while Zähringen and Schwaben close in from the north.

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However, dusk is falling. It is, after all, late November in the North. After more than six hours, Büchsel has failed to sink any of the precious Russian capital ships. Fearing that he would lose them in the dark, he orders his Zerstörer to attack.

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V6 leads the charge, but it is V3 that finds a firing solution on the Pamyat Azova. At 600 yards, she drops her single fish into the water and sprints away, under the fire of the Russian's secondaries.

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14:45 - The torpedo hits! The Russian ship slows and lists.

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And less than a minute later, a second torpedo (this one launched by V4) also makes contact.

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The Russian is done.

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Night falls; and visibility drops sharply to less than 3,000 yards. The Germans lose contact with the Pavel; Büchsel decides to risk a night-time pursuit. He orders the light cruisers out on scouting runs.

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15:47 - The Hela and Frauenlob spot the Pavel! She's making full speed toward the north. They close in but, in the darkness and light snowfall, they do not dare launch any torpedoes.

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The Pavel is still terrified. She turns hard to port, trying to avoid them; and runs straight into Zähringen and Schwaben, at under 2,000 yards.

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The following seconds are a mess of fire, smoke and thunder, as all ships maneuver frantically to avoid collisions and torpedoes. When it clears, the V4 is sinking, blown to Kingdom Come by the Pavel's secondaries; and the Pavel itself has slipped away.

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Büchsel curses; and requests a sitrep from the remaining two Zerstörers. They have both expended their torpedoes; their anti-capital punch is spent. That settles the matter for Büchsel

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He turns the fleet around and makes course for Germany. He will not risk his ships further in a night action and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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And it's a good victory - nobody can deny that. Büchsel's ships are damaged and he lost a Zerstörer, but he has sunk one of the two remaining Russian battleships and a destroyer for no caital losses of his own. .

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Once again, many thanks to the Admiralitätsarchiv for their kind permission to reproduce the chart of the battle. Note the near-parallel running of the two fleets for its near-entirety: this was a textbook 'line' battle from both sides.

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Truly, the Kaiser had nothing to reproach his sailors for. An honourable victory, if not as total as the Admiralität had hoped for.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 05, 2017, 10:23:07 am
 :( Oh no not the Azova.  If you let her live then the Russians would of assume it was a viable design. :drevil:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 06, 2017, 04:36:38 pm
Speaking of that silly Russian battleboat, how viable would a 'secondary' battleship actually be in the early stages? I'm thinking fast speed, good armor and then just a ****load of medium sized guns and some torptubes, save weight on the heavy main gunturrets. Close the distance and brawl like crazy.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 06, 2017, 04:51:04 pm
Frankly, I don't know. Presumably, it could be a good cruiser-killer.

However, the thing about a secondary-based battleship is that, eventually, gradual improvements in AP projectiles and fire control make main batteries increasingly better by, say, 1905-1910. At which point, predreads remain relevant only if they have a good main battery, because any BB / BC has enough guns to solorape any one (or even two) predreads.

So, a secondary-based B should only remain relevant until 1905-ish. And why would you build anything like that?

Also, keep in mind that secondaries are aimed with iron sights until the discovery of 'secondary directors'. So, you may have the equivalent of a light cruiser strapped to each side of your BB, but you won't be hitting **** early on.
Title: (Mis)steps Forward
Post by: Enioch on March 06, 2017, 05:52:03 pm
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"It would be petty of me to not admit Vizeadmiral Büchsel's genius in not taking any chances and succeeding in not losing the war in a nighttime ambush. His handling of the German battle-line was exceptional in Gotland; and I have no doubts that his tactics won us the war.

"I am happy to say that, by the end of the battle, Herr Admiral Büchsel and I were in full accord regarding the future of the Hochseeflotte. The battleships were truly powerful weapons; but, for all their armor, they were surprisingly fragile against a single torpedo. If the German fleet were to take its place in the sun, we had to somehow address this matter - and we also had to make Herr von Tirpitz and His Majesty see that a radical redesign of our capitals was in order"

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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Upon the return of the fleet, the Kaiser was quick to go public with statements regarding the "final destruction of the Russian fleet" and the "unquestioned supremacy of the Kaiserliche Marine". Most of the officers were glad for the praise; but they also were grimly aware of the fact that the latest sinking of the Pamyat Azova, which the Kaiser was eager to attribute to his battleships, was, in fact, once again, the work of Galster's Zerstörer.

For once, von Mecklenburg did not have to bring the two Admiralität factions together. Both Tirpitz (under the strong prompting of Büchsel) and Galster had learned their lesson. Galster made the first move, approaching Tirpitz with his concerns regarding "the survivability of battleships in the modern battlefield against light forces and torpedo warfare" and with a detailed list of how Tirpitz' behemoths might be better fortified against torpedo attacks; Tirpitz, in turn, was quick to release further funds for the expansion of colonial harbors in Africa and the Pacific. Finally the two admiralty factions were working to complement instead of undermine each other.

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He also agreed on the need for new screening cruisers and authorised the accellerated completion of the light cruiser Ariadne. The ship was commissioned on the 30th of November and Galster was very appreciative of the reinforcement of his cruiser forces. In collaboration with von Holtzendorff, he began drawing up a detailed, statistics-based plan for the interception of Russian raiders in the upcoming weeks.

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Fortunately, it never became necessary to put their plan into action. On the 29th of November, Russia sued for peace: their ports blockaded and their armies in full retreat. The Kaiser requested the Navy's input and the Admiralität was quick to proclaim that, with a few more months, they could park their ships in Finnish and Russian ports unopposed. The Kaiser was at the verge of demanding Russia's unconditional surrender, encouraged to no small degree by von Bülow - but then, von Mecklenburg pushed, and pushed hard.

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He arranged for the Kaiser to be invited to Mecklenburg, where the Herzog's nephew, Großherzog Friedrich Franz IV von Mecklenburg-Schwerin had recently come of age and assumed his ruling duties. He also arranged for the Kaiser to participate in one of the greatest deer-culling hunts of the last decade. Wilhelm, being a self-professed hunting enthusiast and constantly pampered by the von Meklenburg family, became particularly susceptible to the Herzog's influence. By the end of the hunt, Wilhelm was perceiving the emissaries of von Bülow as constant annoyances; and was becoming increasingly receptive to von Mecklenburg's ideas.

The latter informed the Kaiser of 'conspiracies' in western Europe; of French and British plans to undermine German power, if the Russian bear were to collapse. The apparent balance of power in Europe had to be maintained, von Mecklenburg claimed, or France would come to Russia's aid, no matter their previous statements. Not to mention the danger of British involvement...

The Kaiser was incensed: both at the implication that German policies should be suggested by the approval or disapproval of the 'old enemies' and at the fact that von Bülow had failed to bring this to his attention. "If all of my victories should be rendered void by a word of the British," he is said to have exclaimed, "then should I mail my crown to Buckingham Palace and be done with it?"

Von Mecklenburg's strength of personality once again saved the day. He opened up with a barrage of encouragement, declarations of fealty and appeal to sentimentality that would have made Bismarck blush; and followed with a proposed plan that seized the Kaiser's fancy. Once again, the Kaiser overruled his Chancellor's emissaries by appointing von Mecklenburg as his own personal representative to the peace talks; von Bülow could no longer ignore the increasingly relevant Herzog. A silent war was to begin between the two; a war that would rage behind the scenes for the following year.

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But for now, von Mecklenburg revealed his master plan. A peace was signed; a very generous peace, the purpose of which was to, primarily, reassure the French and British and, secondly, lay the foundations of Germany's rise.

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The Russians came to the table prepared to reluctantly yield some of their territories in the Far East - perhaps Sakhalin? They were stunned when von Mecklenburg informed them that Germany was completely uninterested in any sort of territorial annexation. Instead, he negotiated for trading deals and resource exploitation. For the next ten years Germany would receive tribute in the form of raw resources: coil, oil and ores from the massive stores of the Russian hinterland. No tolls would be in effect. German industrialists would be given access and the rights to select mining zones in Siberia - zones that the Russians were barely utilising anyway.

By mid-December, von Mecklenburg had the Russians tripping over themselves to sign the proposed peace; an arrangement that they considered a bargain compared to what they had been expecting. What they failed to realise was that "Johnny's Danegeld", as the British press came to call the peace, would fuel a massive wave of German industrialisation over the upcoming years.

The Kaiser sang von Mecklenburg's praise from the rooftops; von Bülow seethed.

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Sadly, any profits for the Germans were still in the not-so-near future. For now, the Admiralität had to suffer a significant curtailing of their budget. Thankfully, they had been aware of that possibility and had accordingly limited their expenses: even after the signing of the peace treaty, they were still saving more than a million Goldmarken monthly, for the time when they would be needed.

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And, after all, their budget was nothing to be scoffed at. True, it was less than half of what the damned British spent on their ships, but it was more than the French! Or any other European power!

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Christmas 1901: and there was much rejoicing! The new docks in Emden and Wilhelmshaven were completed and a massive victory celebration took place, with an impressive fireworks display organised by the Admiralität. The Kaiser was throughly gejubelt by the attending crowds, to his immense satisfaction.

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Also - research! Finally fuelled by a joint Tirpitz - Galster push, the R & D department delivered to the grim satisfaction of both parties. First - the promised safety valves were rushed into production, ensuring that German machinery would be lighter and more reliable.

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Then - to the palm-rubbing glee of Galster, a working prototype of a military submarine vessel, armed with torpedoes, was submitted for consideration of the admiralty.

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And, following that, improved, more destructive shells were introduced.

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Finally, by February, designs for improved compartmentalisation were submitted. Both Tirpitz and Galster received those with barely-suppressed glee. Plans were drawn for the installation of 'bulges' and double bottoms on all German warships; the docks in the Baltic worked around the clock.

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And the docks themselves were further expanded. Tirpitz expected to be able to lay down 22k-ton capital ships by March 1903.

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Meanwhile, Galster was busy with reworking his cruiser fleet. Bremen and Ariadne were commissioned and completed their shakedown cruises in early 1902.

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So, when the Kaiser 'suggested' that a world cruise of a few German ships was in order, the Admiralität was not averse to sending their newest ships out. The Mecklenburg, escorted by the Bremen and Ariadne circumnavigated the world, in a mission to display the power of the Kaiserliche Marine to all!

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In May, Tirpitz unveiled the new R & D breakthrough that would make his giants more effective: massive, 6-ft rangefinders on their superstructures. Galster approved: anything to make the battleship more effective at keeping enemy cruisers away from the battle-line was a good thing.

Also, to keep Galster happy...

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Ohoho. Hohoho.

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Hohohohoho.

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But the laying down of the first German Unterseeboote did not monopolise the Admiralität's time in June. For von Bülow saw a great opportunity to strike back against von Mecklenburg in the home front. The administration of northern Korea collapsed in bloody revolution - and von Bülow knew that German forces were standing by in Tsingtao and Kiautchou bay. In what he perceived to be a daring move, von Bülow approached the Kaiser with a plan for the annexation of northern Korea; and Tirpitz, unfamiliar with the tangled diplomatic web of colonial politics saw no reason not to commit his forces. Von Mecklenburg, in a short family trip to a Swiss Alpine resort didn't find out about this until the orders had been sent out.

It is said that when news reached him, he was having dinner with friends; he paled and near-collapsed. "In a few words," he is reported to have said, "the Kaiser has undone all of my work of peace. There will be war again in less than a year and there is nothing I can do to stop it."

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Meanwhile, the German expedition was successful; northern Korea quickly fell into German hands and one more Far Eastern base was secured. Of course, what von Bülow failed to realise was that Germany was not the only player in the international game; and that his little stunt had stirred a hornet's nest.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 06, 2017, 06:47:07 pm
Quote
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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 06, 2017, 10:38:49 pm
Realpolitik? Try ReallyBadpolitik.

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Take mein helmet and sit on it...

Dummkopf.
Title: The Diplomatic two-step
Post by: Enioch on March 09, 2017, 05:01:20 pm
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- PART 2 -
The Long War

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Gefion arriving in Gensan

"The confusion in the Admiralität was palpable. At first, we were celebrating a new success of the Navy; for our part in the annexation of Northern Korea was critical. But then we received news of how our intervention had been received among the foreign powers and a cold dread seized us. For, by obeying the orders of the "Eel" and of His Majesty, we had unwittingly dramatically upset the international balance.

"The next months were, in short, terrifying. The Admiralität had always functioned under the supposition that we would know who our enemy was and that we would have the time to adjust our doctrine and strategy to best counter them. Suddenly, the entire world was a potential enemy and we had to plan without knowing what the future would hold."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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What followed the occupation of northern Korea was one of the most constantly tense situations in modern history. Within days, von Bülow's cabinet was overwhelmed by the collective pressure from the governments of Great Britain and Japan - even crippled Russia jumped on the bandwagon and, although her fleet was still a non-entity, her armies were still formidable. International press raged.

In this situation, with a three-front war a very real possibility, von Mecklenburg arrived in Berlin - and sought an immediate audience with the Kaiser. The meeting lasted several hours, with von Mecklenburg adopting - for the first time - a nearly aggressive tone in his address towards the Kaiser. In a thundering j' accuse of von Bülow's policies, he painted a terrible image of defeat and loss; and he directly compared Wilhelm's support of the Russian peace treaty with von Bülow's reckless Korean adventures.

"Your Majesty has suffered the presence of this man because he claims to be Your Majesty's servant and his words speak loyalty," the Herzog thundered, "but look at where his actions have brought us! Left on the wheel of Your Majesty's Government he will have us at war with the English and the Russians in a month. All that Your Majesty has achieved, lost, lost because Herr von Bülow wants his place in the history books as the conqueror of Korea?"

The Kaiser did not require much convincing. He had supported von Bülow because of the latter's adherence to the Kaiser's policies; but the Foreign Policy gaffe that was the Korean crisis handling was impossible to overlook. On the 20th of July 1902, von Bülow's cabinet resigned; and Wilhelm appointed von Mecklenburg as the new Chancellor, in a desperate bid to avoid (or at least delay) a war.

Von Mecklenburg had an...unorthodox plan.

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First things first: the new Chancellor had not forgotten his friends in the Navy. Funds were immediately poured into a rearmament program. "However," von Mecklenburg demanded, "not a single Goldmark is to be employed for the construction of capital ships, until I give the word. Improve the fleet as you see fit; build support vessels, thicken your armor, make better shells, but I want no more battleships in the slipways for the next five months."

"Your Excellency need not fear," was the response of Tirpitz. "We have plans for the fleet and they do not involve new capital ships for the conceivable future."

And R & D turned up their sleeves. Before the end of the month, new shell designs, with improved penetrators started construction. Germany would build no more battleships - but the Schwabens would now hit like trucks.

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Also, the Admiralität finally laid down twelve spanking new torpedo destroyers, named after the ill-fated V4. They were big, 600-ton ships, with four excellent 75mm guns and double the torpedo armament of the earlier V2s. They could even hit 29 knots, which was a very satisfactory speed for what Tirpitz had in mind. They would be complete in nine months; and they would be combat-ready within the year.

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Also, in August, the last Victoria Louise-class cruiser, the Vineta was commissioned. The ceremony was a toned down affair; and the slipways was left empty, a testament to Germany's frozen capital ship production.

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Meanwhile, von Mecklenburg had gotten busy. Germany needed allies; and she needed to keep her enemies busy. He began a two-pronged scheme: first, he approached France with overtures of peace; the 'old enemy' was, suprisingly, the most German-aligned Power in Europe. Then, he began a polemic against Japan, whom he perceived as the weakest enemy. Aided by saber-rattling from the Admiralität, he painted the Japanese as power-hungry easterners; imperialists of the worst caliber; a threat to European interests in the Far East. Was it not where they failed, that Germany had succeeded in keeping the peace?

This, of course, pissed the Japanese off to no end - but it brought the European powers to a cautious standstill. A war with Germany would, indeed, mean that the balance of power in the Far East would be shifted considerably - could they really risk the Japanese ending up dominating the South China Sea and the western Pacific?

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Meanwhile, the Admiralität poured more money in their Pacific bases and stocked up on coal for her raiders. Discreetly. Carefully.

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And in October - changes! Tensions rising! Arthur Balfour came to power in Great Britain and adopted a stern stance against Germany. He was also a supporter of the naval reforms promoted by the up-and-coming second sea lord "Jackie" Fisher and one of his earliest motions was a strengthening of the Grand Fleet.

Any other Chancellor would have tried to appease the Brits. Von Mecklenburg rubbed his hands in glee, lachte sich ins Fäustchen and approached the French again, pointing at the British rearmament. Did they feel...safe? Or concerned? And would they stand and watch as the Rosbifs established full and absolute control over the seas, the lifeblood of the French Empire? And would perhaps these concessions on behalf of Germany tempt the French into considering a defensive treaty?

No, of course they weren't. But they were enough for the French to deliver some sharply worded diplomatic missives to London. And tensions rose - but, interestingly, more between France and Great Britain than between the latter and Germany.

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R & D submitted a design for power rammers in capital ship turrets; yet another improvement of Germany's existing battleship fleet. "Quality, quality, always the best in quality," as Tirpitz dictated.

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And the shipyards went into overdrive, focusing hard on Zerstörer production. The dockyards in Wilhelmshaven even reported that they could repurpose capital ship slipways for faster (and cheaper) DD construction.

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Simultaneously, the mass-production of multiple ships made the laborers develop new, faster riveting techniques.

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January 1903 - and von Mecklenburg is cautiously optimistic. He has carefully balanced out tensions, in a way that would have made Bismarck twirl his mustache in approval. France and Britain are at each others' throats; Japan is too busy dealing with internal troubles to truly be a threat; Russia is slowly backing down, as no clear ally against Germany is evident. Things aren't calm, but they're manageable and nobody wants to really make the first move.

OK, OK. Germany may have gotten through this - and she's got a perfectly respectable light forces and submarine fleet out of the deal thanks to the increased budget von Mecklenburg managed to coax for the Navy.

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And then, of course, in a time-honored tradition and in his eternal wisdom, His Majesty the Kaiser opens his big mouth and says something stupid for a good start of the New Year. [/kappa]

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 09, 2017, 06:51:08 pm
I like the Kaiser, he makes things very interesting  :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 09, 2017, 06:59:54 pm
The only thing more hilarious then the Kaiser's antics is your current diplomatic situation. A pact with France, of all nations? FRANCE? From a historian's point of view, it's as if Hell has finally frozen over.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on March 09, 2017, 07:02:48 pm
More like incompetent, Spoon.  The Kaiser has been wholly unable to antagonize the French and Italians so far, despite managing to get the rest of the world furious at him. :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 09, 2017, 09:14:32 pm
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Listen Willy, don't make me lean over and rough your **** up.
Title: Nous sommes tous de bons amis
Post by: Enioch on March 10, 2017, 11:47:29 am
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"His Majesty's unique talent to escalate all and every situation he was involved in rendered my service as His Majesty's Chancellor a period of unique excitement and interesting challenges. Admittedly, I found myself frequently wishing he lacked that particular talent."

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

1903 started with von Mecklenburg scrambling for damage control. It was impossible to fully smooth over America's ruffled feathers after the Kaiser's condescending dismissal of their naval rearmament program (in all honesty, comparing the new American ships to the "undergunned, undermanned and underperforming garbage scows of the Russians" may not have been the most diplomatic of comments). However, the fact that the interests of Germany and the USA were not directly counter to each other helped von Mecklenburg prevent any...hasty action from both sides.

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Meanwhile, the R & D department tested various ground-breaking options to improve the performance of German battleships. One proposal would completely remove the 6-inch secondary battery from the Schwabens and replace it with large 10-inch 'wing' turrets. (Un?)fortunately, the proposal was deemed impossible to implement, as it would place considerable stress on the battleship frames.

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On the other hand, good, good news from France. The old enemy was acting considerably more friendly than usual, given the rising tensions with the Brits. Russia had proven to be a weaker ally than expected; therefore, the French were more and more receptive to overtures of peace from Germany. Possibly the most significant steps toward peace was the negotiated sale of French 13-inch gun designs to the Germans. The designs themselves had the German engineers shudder in horror at their inefficiency, but the diplomatic aspect of the deal was not to be underestimated and von Mecklenburg was very satisfied by the developments.

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And, when the French destroyer Belier collided with Frauenlob during the 1903 coronation review in honour of King Edward, both parties were quick to offer profuse apologies. The event was nearly laughed over in both Admiralties and von Tirpitz even half-jokingly suggested "joint maneuvers with our French neighbours, so that such regrettable incidents might be avoided in the future". The British Foreign Ministry was both concerned and, frankly, flabbergasted by the developments.

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April 1903: Great successes reported by the R & D department. Great improvements in machinery, for lighter and more reliable engines; and excellent, clear lenses for submarine periscopes. "Quality, quality, only the best in quality."

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And oh my, a breakthrough in fuze technology allowed for the packing of more explosives in individual shells. Again - the Schwabens were sure to hit like trucks now.

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...And the first plates of hardened steel rolled off the German foundries in June. Tirpitz was honest-to-God skipping around the Admiralität with a grin on his face and his beard waggling all over the place.

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He was even more happy when von Mecklenburg released the necessary funds for the extension of the military drydocks. The construction of capital ships was still a major no-no, but Germany could very well prepare for the inevitable time when she would reinforce her battle-line again.

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And in early July, the first batch of submarines rolled off the slipways. Galster was as happy as Tirpitz.

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Ha. Hahaha. HAHAHAHA.

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**** YOU BRITS. GERMANY HAS THE BEST FRIENDS IN THE WORLD.

WHAT IS ALSACE-LORRAINE, I DON'T EVEN.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Thisisaverylongusername on March 10, 2017, 12:34:09 pm
Well this was unexpected. :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 10, 2017, 12:36:14 pm
Oh. Mein. Gott. I can hardly believe it. You've really done it today. You have made the impossible possible, Großadmiral Enioch.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on March 10, 2017, 12:40:35 pm
Amazing. So Bismarck spends years and years on building a network of alliances across Europe specifically to isolate France. Then all those nations decide that they don't much like Germany, kick them out, and now the two isolated nations have to band together.

How convenient.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 10, 2017, 01:48:40 pm
Amazing. So Bismarck spends years and years on building a network of alliances across Europe specifically to isolate France. Then all those nations decide that they don't much like Germany, kick them out, and now the two isolated nations have to band together.

How convenient.

Oh. Mein. Gott. I can hardly believe it. You've really done it today. You have made the impossible possible, Großadmiral Enioch.

 :lol:

All I can say is, I hope you're satisfied with this rather unorthodox retelling of 20th-century world history.

Looking at you, The E. :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on March 10, 2017, 02:08:28 pm
You just KNOW Mister Fisher's response to this will be the HMS Dreadnought: A 30 knot battleship with 4 inches of belt armour. SPEED IS ARMOUR
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on March 10, 2017, 02:15:39 pm
Did you just accidently made the EU happen? :P
And prevent the rape of Belgium?
And...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 10, 2017, 03:16:54 pm
Did you just accidently made the EU happen? :P

For a while.

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And prevent the rape of Belgium?

For a while.

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And...

Yes. :P

You just KNOW Mister Fisher's response to this will be the HMS Dreadnought: A 30 knot battleship with 4 inches of belt armour. SPEED IS ARMOUR

If only he were this competent...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 10, 2017, 03:21:49 pm
You just KNOW Mister Fisher's response to this will be the HMS Dreadnought: A 30 knot battleship with 4 inches of belt armour. SPEED IS ARMOUR

Isn't that called battlecruiser?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 10, 2017, 03:29:42 pm
That's actually called HMS Dreadeverything.

Or maybe HMS Badaboom
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on March 10, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
Alliance with France! How the hell did the Kaiser manage to **** upforeign relations so much that this happened? I mean around that time wasn't it the god-given destiny of Germany to do war with France whenever the oportunity arises?  ;)

It seems the technology leader perk is already starting to come into play with all these technologies you are getting at a fast rate.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 10, 2017, 05:48:49 pm
Those -2 quality guns though
Title: False Flag
Post by: Enioch on March 11, 2017, 03:22:06 pm
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"The Charming Officer"; a 1903 political cartoon depicting the "dashing" Kaiser seducing Marianne (the personification of the French Republic) away from John Bull's arms

"The 1903 Treaty of Köln was a breakthrough that forever cemented His Excellency as a diplomatic genius to rival Bismarck in German politics. Some territorial concessions in Lothringen were made to the French, which helped considerably in smoothing out tensions; but the regions surrendered had always been problematic for the German administration and the autonomy-supporting elements there were particularly active. No great loss for the Reich.

"In return, Germany acquired a much needed ally in the European stage; His Excellency liked to refer to the ensuing alliance as the 'Kerneuropa': the true core of Europe, finally working together against the perfidious British politics. France would prove an invaluable friend over the upcoming years and I deeply regret the events that followed His Excellency's death [...]"

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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The treaty of Köln definitely stirred up the waters of European diplomacy. For the first time in forever, France and Germany were presenting a united front against the other colonial powers. France's eastern borders were secured; and any attempt by perfidious Albion to blockade her ports would have to first go through the veteran German Navy. Germany was secure in the west; and her armies were now a near-impenetrable bulwark against the Russians. Not to mention that, essentially overnight, two of the largest land armies in Europe had become officially allies.

Not even a Defense Pact, mind you - but a full-blown Alliance. And all that France requested was the return of the most linguistically 'grey' areas of Lorraine, a condition to which von Mecklenburg was more than eager to agree, if it meant closing the deal.

Great Britain's Foreign Ministry raged; Berlin and Paris tentatively (but hopefully) celebrated at the apparent cessation of century-long hostilities.

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Meanwhile, the Navy focused on defensive tactics and doctrines. Plans were drawn for extensive minefields, covering strategic points of the German and French northern coastlines. New patrol boats and Zerstörer were commissioned.

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And, more significantly, the Admiralität gambled, with the most extensive submarine-building program the world had ever seen. Galster lobbied tirelessly for further experimentation, improvement and implementation of this new weapon. By the end of 1904, Germany would have a fleet of more than seventy coastal Unterseebooten, the crews of which Galster trained mercilessly in raiding, scouting and ambush scenarios.

Through it all, now-Vize-Admiral Galster couldn't help but notice that the coastal patrol and minesweeping fleets of Germany's enemies were...woefully lacking.

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In September, R & D delivers again with massive improvements in shell and torpedo performance. And the celebratory beer flowed in the Admiralität (after working hours, of course; the French might be our new allies, but that doesn't mean we need to imitate them. No Fritz, put the roquefort away, that's disgusting.)

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Unfortunately, on the 26th of the month, a Russian trawler approached the German minesweeper Henriette as she was laying one of the new minefields in the Baltic. Hails were unanswered; warning shots were fired to no avail; and the German ship finally fired for effect, with fatal consequences. The Admiralty presented a full report to the Government; and it was decided that an unapologetic stance was the best option. Cousin Nicky wasn't very happy, but the Kaiser very much approved of what he perceived as "von Mecklenburg's true German pride, verd---t nochmal!".

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Mein Gott das ist ja wunderbar.

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The Schwabens immediately hit the drydocks for a 4-month refit that will massively overhaul their fire-control systems. The dockyard hands descend upon the German battlewagons with gusto.

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Among them, agents of the French military intelligence, who want to keep a closer eye that strictly warranted on their new ally. The Germans laugh, show them around, and deem that serving them beer is punishment enough.

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In February, the Kaiser and von Mecklenburg are approached by representatives of the Navy League and the more nationalistic parties, who are lobbying hard for an increase of the Naval budget. Von Mecklenburg is not averse to the idea; and the Kaiser doesn't take much persuading. New funds were released; and von Tirpitz was asked to compose a new Naval Bill in collaboration with a committee composed of the most influential members of the Admiralität. The Bill was to outline the doctrine and direction the Admiralität would pursue over the following years and suggest the number and types of ships that needed to be produced.

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By the end of the month, the refitting of the Schwabens was complete and the battlewagons sailed once more, with sharper eyes and stronger fists.

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And in March, German submarine designs received further upgrades with the addition of hydrodynamic diving planes.

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Galster immediately asked for ten new Unterseebooten and got them. Eighty-one and counting, by the way.

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By April, the Russian war reparations had truly made an impact in the German economy. With new resources and raw materials available, the German industries were booming and, thankfully, the tensions with the other European nations were falling. Von Mecklenburg was the industrialists' darling.

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And then, of course, Hela had to run aground in Norway, during a sounding mission of questionable international legality. The Norwegians made angry noises; von Mecklenburg prepared to dance the usual dance; and the Kaiser, of course, charged in like a raging bull in a china shop and demanded the immediate release of the cruiser in less than diplomatic terms.

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[facepalm.gif]

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Ninety-one and counting, by the way. For those of our readers who are interested in such things.

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What?

Have...have the Germans been Decima'd?

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Von Mecklenburg urges patience and caution; the Kaiser is frothing at the mouth.

Preliminary investigations discover part of a tattered diving suit in the harbor of Saipan, bearing Italian markings.

Von Mecklenburg is not fooled. Why would the Italians do this? In Saipan of all places? This is clearly a false flag operation and it reeks of tea and biscuits.

But Germany cannot yet afford to fight Great Britain. And Germany cannot appear to be indecisive, or weak.

And Germany just so happens to have a new ally with extensive naval bases in the Mediterranean. And Germany is ambitious and von Mecklenburg thinks of his inner Bismarck.

So, the Brits have pursued their usual divide-and-conquer strategies, have they? Making the Italians their scapegoats? Fine then. They can't very well defend the Spaghettis, when they've painted them so clearly as the aggressors. Poor Italy is in the spotlight, alone. This is not Germany being deceived - this is Germany seizing an opportunity

Eisen und Blut it is, then. Challenge accepted, Engländer.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 11, 2017, 03:45:43 pm
If my limited knowledge of the game serves me right, Italy is really ****ed in the naval budget department if you're using historical budgets. I expect them to drop faster than their soccer team.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 11, 2017, 03:48:26 pm
If my limited knowledge of the game serves me right, Italy is really ****ed in the naval budget department if you're using historical budgets. I expect them to drop faster than their soccer team.

Your knowledge of the game serves you right. You'd still be surprised.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 12, 2017, 10:20:33 pm
The pastalovers haven't quite managed to obtain their previous record submarine count from the other timeline.
This germany on the other hand.
Title: The Taranto Raid
Post by: Enioch on March 13, 2017, 05:35:43 am
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The battleship SMS Zähringen, departing Wilhelmshaven for the Mediterranean on the 30th of June 1904

"The Staff and most senior officers were, of course, suspecting that the Italians were innocent of the calumny that they were accused of; and we all, likewise, suspected whose work the sinking of the V1 was. But the idea of turning the presumed English plot on its head - of using this war to further bolster our power in Europe rather than wasting our strength away was very appealing.

"Also, better to test our new designs and weapons on an opponent like Italy first than to have them break in our hands when dealing with the Royal Navy."

-Großadmiral v. Tirpitz 1920, My Memoirs, London: Hurst & Blackett.

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First things first: infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure. Von Mecklenburg might still have been blocking the construction of new battleships, but the Admiralität could still channel resources into the expansion of the idle dockyards. This was important - Germany needed to be able to build big and powerful when the time came.

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Especially since Intelligence reported that the British were now building what they called a 'Battlecruiser': a strange capital ship with three centreline turrets. Apparently, the new First Lord of the Admiralty was throwing some strange ideas around...

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Look at that smug motherf***er. Don't you just want to shoot him with a 12-inch rifle?

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Also - the Germans had to settle on a strategic plan. Under the prompting of von Mecklenburg, the French were only requested to bottle up the Italian forces in the Alps - a purely defensive war. They were also asked to grant the German battle-line access to their naval bases in the Mediterranean, a request that was readily granted by the French High Command. The primary offensive arm of Kerneuropa would be the German Hochseeflotte...

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...and her sneaky, sneaky cousins. Upon declaration of war, the German U-boote snuck into the Mediterranean in twos and threes and began their campaign of terror. They would prove to be nuisances first and effective weapons second; but they were operating away from their dedicated bases and against an opponent whose maritime sea traffic would shortly present them with a rather target-poor environment. Still, the Kaleuns of the Unterseeflotte acquired valuable experience during this war, experience that they would put to good use later.

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Galster's cruisers were the second to arrive in the Med, long before the German battle-line; and in early July, with the first skirmishes breaking out in the Alps, Galster sailed out from Mers el Kebir on a daring raid near Messena.

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His forces rendezvous'd west of Corfu, shortly after noon and proceeded in good order toward the gulf of Taranto. They consisted of the three Victoria Louise-class cruisers (Hertha, Victoria Louise and Vineta), escorted by the light cruiser Hela. The plan called for a night-time raid, to cripple merchant traffic under the cover of darkness. Galster, on board his flagship Hertha (as usual), expected little resistance. He would prove to be both wrong and right.

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Shortly after nightfall, the lookouts from Hertha (who was sailing at the rear of the formation), spotted a ship sailing with extinguished navigation lights a short distance behind the German flotilla. Recognition signals were flashed, with no response. Hertha immediately went to battle stations; and the entirety of the German cruiser line turned to engage the presumed enemy.

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What follows is the epitome of a chaotic night battle. All combatants are shooting blind; frantically trying to identify their friendlies and enemies; and amidst the chaos, Victoria Louise is hit in her bow armor by a shell that penetrates and causes limited flooding to her front compartments. Fregattenkapitän Mayer cracks down mercilessly on the ensuing panic; and Victoria Louise stays in the battle-line.

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And then, finally a whole hour after the first shot was fired, Mayer has had enough of firing at ghosts. He orders the Victoria Louise's searchlights to be used; and the Germans get their first clear view of their target.

She's a Marco Polo-class, escorted by a couple of DDs, who immediately turn tail and run under heavy secondary fire. The italian cruiser is heavily armored; but she's four thousand tons lighter than the three German cruisers she's facing and it shows in her armament. Her 8'' rifles simply can't compare to the German 11-inchers; and she's 2 knots slower. "This will be easy," declares Galster, "if we've learned anything from Bornholm. Kapitän, take us out of her torpedo arcs!"

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The German ships cut their speed and slot onto the Italian's tail, where her torpedo tubes are useless. Six 'fore' 11-inch rifles bark for every shot of the Italian's rear twin 8-inch turret and the damage is quick to add up.

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At 21:59, the Italian's bow slips beneath the waves. Hela stops to pick up survivors; and the Germans receive the Italians on board with full honours. Outnumbered and outgunned as they were, the Spaghettis gave a spectacular showing.

The German ships make steam towards the north...

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...and then, out of the darkness, a dark shape emerges, moving at great speed. Alarms blare; the Germans scramble to avoid a collision.

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She's an Ancona-class light cruiser and she's just performed a textbook nighttime torpedo run. Galster can feel the cold sweat running down his back as the German cruisers take her under fire. He has only his luck to thank for still having all his ships floating.

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The Italian makes flank and tries to slip into the darkness again; but this time, it's 'little' Hela that shows her mettle. She's almost double the Italian's tonnage, she's got two knots on her and her stokers are fresh. Hela slips out of the battleline like a hound slips its leash and charges, as she's designed to do.

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At a range of under a thousand yards, her captain turns her smoothly to port and unshadows his starboard broadside. Her six 6-inchers bark in unison and the Ancona is riddled with holes.

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Having crippled the enemy, the Hela disengages; every moment she spends inside the Ancona's range is another opportunity for her to take damage that could have been avoided. The heavy cruisers are now closing in; and the Ancona cannot run.

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Galster maneuvers his force outside of the Ancona's estimated torpedo range and opens up with his entire broadside. The Ancona just...ceases to exist.

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The butcher's bill only became known to the Germans two days later, when the Italians officially announced their losses. In addition to the Marco Polo and the Ancona the Regia Marina had also lost two of their destroyers to flooding inflicted by the Hertha's secondaries and tertiaries. The Italians had protected their merchant ships, but they had suffered grievous losses in doing so.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 13, 2017, 06:06:46 am
That went well. Every ship you can avoid losing is one more you'll have ready for the day of reckoning against this obvious British plot.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Col. Fishguts on March 13, 2017, 06:20:47 am
Good showing of the cruisers.

Btw, are these battle events randomly generated and you can just accept/decline?
Or can you manually order your ships/fleets to specific spots on the map (and lets say park a fleet in front of an enemy harbor)?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 13, 2017, 06:26:38 am
Good showing of the cruisers.

Btw, are these battle events randomly generated and you can just accept/decline?
Or can you manually order your ships/fleets to specific spots on the map (and lets say park a fleet in front of an enemy harbor)?

Randomly generated based on a) the forces you have in a region (obviously) b) the forces your opponent has in a region (obviously) c) the presence or not of a blockade (a blockade assures that you'll have either a running cruiser battle as raiders / blockade runners try to break through the blockading lines or a fleet battle) d) your submarine doctrine ("fleet support" kills your performance versus merchant ships, but encourages skirmishes closer to enemy ports as your submarines are now actively scouting / engaging enemy forces as they leave their safe havens)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on March 13, 2017, 08:23:32 pm
Do you actually roll the dice for the Wilhelm, or is the decision based on the maximum lulz?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 13, 2017, 08:48:51 pm
Do you actually roll the dice for the Wilhelm, or is the decision based on the maximum lulz?

I usually pick what will get me in the most trouble. :p Seems par for the course with Willie...
Title: Hertha's Duel
Post by: Enioch on March 14, 2017, 06:44:14 am
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The German cruiser SMS Hertha sailing out of Mers-el-Kébir in August 1904

"The Taranto raid taught me to respect the Italians, perhaps more than I had ever respected the Russians; they were a people with a long naval tradition and their bravery and seamanship was beyond reproach. They were constantly let down by their equipment, however: their ships were inferior to ours in nearly every respect and they were heavily outnumbered and outgunned. With Vizeadmiral Büchsel's battle-line ready to establish a blockade and the French holding the northern line, they would be very hard pressed to mount any kind of effective response to our presence.

"Which is why I thought it best to maximise our presence in the Mediterranean and why I dispatched my heavy cruisers to long patrols, to actively scout out the enemy and seek out his merchant shipping. It was this decision which led to the well-known Battle of Sardinia. I am willing to accept the credit (and the blame) for sparking off this, so widely discussed, skirmish; but I cannot, in good faith, claim any credit for its results. That must go to its entirety to Fregattenkapitän Rheinhard Sheer and the crew of the Hertha, who proved their mettle above and beyond my expectations."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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August dawned rather well for the German Navy. Firstly - Büchsel's battlefleet had reached the Mediterranean and was now ready to establish a blockade on the Italians. Secondly, the cruiser forces in the Mediterranean were finally ready to stretch their legs and go after the Italian light forces, their merchantmen and coastal targets of opportunity. Thirdly, the R & D department reported that they had ready air pre-heater designs for implementation in future ship construction.

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And, finally, the U-boote reported the sinking of two Italian merchantmen, without suffering any losses themselves. This was much more significant than one would think. For better or worse, these early submarines were deathtraps and this war was their baptism in fire. The blockade had pinned most of the Italian sea traffic in their harbors and the submariners performed daring night-time raids in their leaking steel coffins, to chase down that one elusive torpedo strike. In a way, the success of the surface fleet sabotaged the efforts of the submariners; but that also benefited the Unterseeflotte in the long term. For the world was completely and utterly unprepared for the havoc the U-boote could wreak on a merchant marine that judged their efficiency based on their early-20th-century performance.

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The Italians struck back with the sinking of the collier Lorelei near Tanga; the Germans couldn't help but applaud the Taranto's masterfully executed escape.

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Finally, the French Army proved its mettle by pushing into the Italian defenses through the Venadio pass and along the coastline towards Genoa. Nevertheless, the Italians put up a spirited defense and the French assault eventually stalled, having only barely achieved its goals and with none of the significant breakthroughs the French had hoped for.

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On the 26th of August, the Hertha, operating independently, spotted a massive Italian convoy traveling from Sicily to Sardinia, to reinforce and resupply the island's garrison troops. The silhouettes of the Italian ships were clearly visible in the breaking dawn; and, seeing an excellent opportunity to disrupt the Italian defenses in Sardinia, Galster instructed Fregattenkapitän Rheinhard Sheer of the Hertha to engage as he saw fit.

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Originally, the German lookouts only identified a few light ships as escorts: a protected Bari-class cruiser and a few destroyers. Sheer knew that there was nothing the Italians could realistically do to harm his ship, except engage with torpedoes; and so he continued with his attack, taking the Bari under long-range fire.

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Unfortunately, less than half an hour after first contact, the lookouts identified two more Italian warships steaming at flank speed towards the Hertha. They were both, clearly armored cruisers; and one of them was easily identifiable as a Carlo Alberto-class. Sheer immediately turned to Galster.

"Herr Admiral," he said, "am I still free to engage as I see fit?"

Upon Galster's confirmation, Sheer ordered an immediate about-turn; and trained his guns on the Alberto

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A bit of background, for the naval enthusiast: the Albertos were universally considered to be excellent ships for their intended roles (i.e. anti-cruiser duties). They were exceptionally heavily armored for their size, with a main belt thicker than that of the Victoria Louise-class ships. They were also quite fast, being only a knot slower than the German ships. They paid for this with a considerably reduced broadside: they only mounted 7-inch guns as their main battery, where the German cruisers were armed with 11-inch, capital-ship rifles.

This is not as significant a difference as one might think. While it is true that the German guns packed a significantly stronger punch, the Italian 7-inchers could still reliably penetrate the extended belt and deck of the German ships, that were built to resist gun calibers of up to 6 inches. Furthermore, the Italians reloaded much faster than the Germans and could still easily match every two of Hertha's salvos with three of their own.

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Five minutes after Sheer's order to reverse course, the lookouts get enough light to identify the second heavy cruiser. It's a Vettor Pisani and that immediately seals the deal. Sheer had made the right choice.

The Pisanis were massive ships, bigger than the Hertha. They, too, were only capable of 21 knots but that made them no less capable. Their armor was thick - thicker than the Hertha's in places and, more significantly, they had a completely splinter-proof deck, with armor up to 2 inches thick. This also made them very resistant to plunging fire at longer ranges. Their main turrets may have only housed single, 10'' rifles, but they were tough, with an aromor of 5.5 inches that could reliably bounce enemy fire. And, more significantly, they had a secondary broadside of eight 7-inch rifles per side, the same that the Albertos used as their main armament.

Hertha could, under no circumstances, be drawn into a close-range fight, or her fore and aft compartments would be smashed to scrap. By forcing the Italians into a running / chasing duel, Sheer leveraged his ship's speed as well as possible, while also denying the Italians the chance to use their massive secondary broadsides. He could train two of his 11'' rifles towards the enemy; and, in return, he limited the Italian's ability to fire back to only two 7'' and one 10'' gun.

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The Hertha rushes towards the south-east, the Italians hot on her tail. Fire is exchanged, but no hits are scored. The Bari turns to rejoin the convoy (any followup German attack with Zerstörer, Galster notes grimly, would have failed spectacularly) but the two armored cruisers and their destroyer escorts doggedly stay on Hertha's shapely aft.

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Twenty minutes into the fight, Sheer decides to gamble. He turns the Hertha on a slow, gentle turn towards the north, unshadowing his forward gun at a range of around 6,000 yards. The Italians follow him into the turn - and bring their own main batteries to bear.

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Several broadsides are exchanged - and then the worst fears of Sheer come true, as a 7-inch shell from the Pisani's secondaries strikes Hertha's aft turret and jams the bearings. In a single moment, Hertha loses half of her anti-capital capability.

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Sheer has lost his aft turret; and he may now choose whether he wants to turn away and seek to disengage or continue a broadside engagement. He chooses the latter,trusting in his damcon crews to get the aft turret operational again.

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And, again, he is proven right. Thirty minutes of frantic maneuvering later, the damcon crews report that Hertha is fully battle-ready again.

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Sheer serpentines to throw off the Italians' aim, while keeping his aft guns on target; he scores some success, but it's primarily his broadside secondaries that pepper the enemy cruisers' superstructure.

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Hertha, in return, suffers a penetrating hit in her extended belt but flooding is minimal. Then, her lookouts note something important...

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Look at the Pisani. His aft turret is still tracking the Hertha, but his forward turret is at a neutral position and is not firing.

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And, just like that, the heaviest chase weaponry the Italians have is out of the picture.

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This changes things significantly. Sheer turns to starboard and unshadows his entire broadside. The entirety of the Hertha's armament focuses on the Alberto - Sheer is looking to knock out some of her guns as well.

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This happens. Hertha's secondaries pummel the Italian, who had seriously overextended. The Alberto takes the punishment for nearly half an hour, but eventurally staggers and falls back, leaving the Pisani to take point again. To Sheer's chagrin, Hertha's main battery had repeatedly straddled the Alberto, but only scored one confirmed hit.

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However, by the end of the gun duel, the Alberto's front turret had also fallen silent (note the small inset window at the bottom left and how the front turret is 'neutral', while the aft is still tracking the Hertha).

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Frankly, the Hertha was not that much better off. By this time, her front magazine had only six AP shells left; and her aft turret 25. Her superstructure had been riddled with 7-inch shells; but , thankfully, nothing important had been damaged and she had barely taken on any water.

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Also, she still had more than 300 rounds left in her secondary magazines and she was continuously peppering the Pisani with high-explosive fire. Sadly, while her main batteries were consistently straddling the Italian, she still scored no hits with her precious last 11-inch shells.

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The running battle takes the opposing forces less than 5,000 yards from the coastline of Sardinia. The thunder of the guns brings curious onlookers to the scene.

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At 12:45, Hertha's guns fall silent. She has fully expended her main and secondary gun magazines, in what, at the time, was the longest, most drawn-out naval engagement of the century. She has suffered 27 hits from 7-inch rifles, which have caused only light damage to her superstructure and dented her waterline armor; in return, she has scored 12 hits with her main, 11-inch guns and another 38 with her 6-inch secondaries alone. Her stokers are exhausted; her grates fouled; she is completely and utterly spent. And the Italian convoy has escaped to safety.

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But there is nobody who thinks that the Italians came out on top on this one. 2-on-1 odds, and the Hertha still kicked arse and took names, causing significant damage to the Alberto and giving as good as she took back to the Pisani - not to mention the damage she caused to the Italian destroyers and the transport ship Vesuvio in the early stages of the engagement.

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So, on the 29th of August, the Italians sued for peace.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 14, 2017, 07:50:55 am
Good show, you made a single-cruiser skirmish look spectular. I'm sure the Hertha's exploits will make for wonderful war propaganda - so many hits taken and only light damage, now that's a vote of confidence for the strength of German steel! If I recall, there was a propaganda tidbit about armor toughness in an old WWII tank manual.

As for the peace offer, I'm not sure if it's better to bleed the Italians a bit more or refocus on the actual threats, but I'm very sure what Willy would do.
Title: The First Christmas Truce
Post by: Enioch on March 16, 2017, 07:22:59 am
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"Hertha erschlägt den Feind": a propaganda gravure published shortly after the Battle of Sardinia. Hertha is depicted as an iron-clad Valkyrie, slaying the two-headed dragon representing the Vittor Pisani and the Carlo Alberto.

"The first time the Italians sued for peace, it caught us by surprise. It was certainly a pleasant surprise, as it served as a clear acknowledgment by the enemy of our military superiority in the Mediterranean. Opinions were divided on how to proceed. On the one hand, we were aware that the Italians were not our true enemies. Pursuing this war risked bleeding us out, more than we could afford given the spectre of the eventual wars to come. Peace was a possibility now - a good peace. The war had been a relatively chivalrous affair so far; a skilled negotiator could resolve this situation with a minimum of resentment from both sides. His Excellency would certainly have been up to the task"

"On the other hand, it was tempting to pursue the war further. Completely eliminating Italy's potential as a future adversary in the unavoidable war against Great Britain would be a considerable accomplishment and it would greatly shift the balance of power in Europe in favour of the Kerneuropa block. The French were also eager to achieve some measure of war gains and we were not averse to helping them in this - a decisive joint victory would help further smooth the relations between the allies. And, of course, His Majesty was insistant that Germany should press her advantage until it had thoroughly demonstrated her superiority as a land and naval Power.

"It was finally decided to pursue negotiations with the Italians but to present them with a list of rather harsh demands. It was deemed the best way to judge the situation and study their response. Unsurprisingly, the negotiations foundered relatively quickly."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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Under pressure from the Kaiser and the French, Germany presented the Italians with a rather harsh set of terms for peace. The negotiations led to nothing - but there were negotiations. This would be a hallmark of what would eventually came to be known as the Long War: short periods of fighting, punctuated by ineffectual negotiations. Perhaps surprisingly, this maintained a climate of perceived good faith between the combatants; unlike the wars to come, the Long War stretched out over several years but was a gentlemen's war, characterised by good treatment of prisoners and civilians and several acts of chivalry from both sides (the 'Christmas Truces' of the Alpine Front being but the most well-known examples).

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Meanwhile, the R & D department began experimenting with high tensile steel in shipbuilding, a development that could, arguably, contribute to significant weight savings in future warships.

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They also reported considerable progress in their attempts to somehow counter the English three-centreline-turret capital ships. While adding to the centreline armament of German ships was still beyond the capabilities of the German shipbuilders, it should, theoretically, be possible to mount heavy batteries on the sides of the ship, in 'wing' turrets.

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The submarines...well, in all honesty, their kill-counts were disappointing for the losses they suffered. However, with the blockade in place, there was simply no Italian merchant traffic for them to go after; the Kaleuns of the Unterseeflotte had to brave shore defenses, minefields and patrol boats to achieve any results.

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Some excitement was had in early September, when the Gazelle-class cruiser Bremen encountered the Italian Bari-class raider Brindisi

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The two ships engaged in a running battle that lasted over five hours, with the Brindisi eventually managing to escape under cover of darkness, near the Spanish coast.

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She had been heavily damaged in action, while the Bremen had emerged unscathed from the fight.

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The German cruisers were beginning to build a certain...reputation for themselves.

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Especially since, at the end of the month, Gazelle intercepted the infamous Italian raider Taranto and thwarted her planned attack on German shipping. Nevertheless, the Italian managed to escape without suffering any damage (another testament to the skill of her crew).

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During the course of the month, more submarines left their slipways and made their way into the Mediterranean; Galster and Tirpitz also ordered a significant change in submarine doctrine. Instead of risking their boats by attacking into guarded harbors, the German submariners were now instructed to attack only targets of opportunity and to, otherwise, provide scouting and support for the fleet.

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Artist's depiction: Ariadne in Marseilles.

The fleet also redeployed a small cruiser squadron to the French coast, to support land action there. Ariadne and Amazone took up the slack.

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October was a calm month for the Admiralität - the Italians stayed in their ports and the cold weather stalled the land offensive. The Admiralität found the opportunity to fund the further expansion of the harbor installations in their Pacific holdings.

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November, on the other hand, was a good month. First and foremost - the R & D department began installing new pneumatic recuperators in capital ship turrets, greatly improving their rate of fire. Also...

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...Sheer did it again. This time, it was Hertha who was ready and waiting as the Taranto tried to slip by the blockade; and Hertha does not fool around.

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*Emphatic German Swearing* Yep, on hindsight, Galster and Tirpitz both agree that active submarine warfare while a blockade is in effect was a bad idea. Back to scouting and fleet support, lads.

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The Italians, on the other hand, did not seem to have had problems this time around.

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The obvious answer from the Gaermans? More cruisers. Good cruisers. The Medusas were upgraded Gefions, built from the keel up with central firing and for long-range colonial service. They were faster than their predecessors, with relatively good deck protection and a five-gun broadside of 6'' rifles. The class of three ships (Medusa, Arcona and Hamburg) was planned to enter service in less than two years - and the Kaiser was very pleased at the news. The continued success of the cruiser fleet had changed Wilhelm's stance toward naval warfare; he is said to have "waited for news from Mers-el-Kebir like a schoolboy, laughing in delight at every report of cruisers thwarting enemy blockade runners".

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And, finally, to round up the year, the French coastal offensive proved to be reasonably successful, capturing several Italian fortified positions and, further to the north, even pushing a fair distance into the Alpine passes. Both armies were spent, however; and the first semi-official 'Christmas Truce' came into effect, from the 23rd of December, until the 3rd of January. During that time, the Germans even selectively lifted their blockade, allowing for a limited number of neutral cargo ships, carrying foodstuffs and medical supplies to reach the Italian harbors. In the north, soldiers from both armies mingled in the no-man's land between their entrenched positions; and, in one remarkable occasion, French and Italian officers jointly set up a Christmas dinner in the snow.

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French, Italian and German troops and officers mingling in the no-man's-land of the Alpine front, during Christmas 1904

Seven months in - and the Long War is just getting started. Brace yourselves, it's gonna be a boring ride (with a few memorable moments of utter, pants-wetting terror).

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 16, 2017, 09:18:28 am
Is there actually a downside in a situation like this?  Obviously there is the possibility that you might lose an engagement or the merchant raiding might hurt but a protracted low risk war seems like an opportune scenario to leverage your increased budget to build and blood your forces.  Are their negatives that we are not seeing?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 16, 2017, 12:05:29 pm
You mean apart from the fact that there are people dying in the trenches and the cold sea, year after year, you callous, heartless bastard?  :p

Yes.

Some, but not all negative aspects of a long war are the following:

That said, there is also a positive aspect to a long war and you've identified the benefits of one perfectly. It's all a matter of weighing the alternatives. You can always tap out with the 'let's make peace now' option in the diplomatic events, if the situation gets too nasty.
Title: Von der Tann
Post by: Enioch on March 18, 2017, 08:53:16 am
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The new docks in Kiel shortly before the end of their construction

"[...] it became increasingly clear to me that the future lay with Galster's cruisers, but we couldn't just ignore the need for a competitive battle-line. Therefore, after long meetings with out engineer department, we decided to compromise.

"His Excellency studied the proposed designs shortly after the turn of the year and released the funds for the Von der Tann and the Goeben on the 28th of January. I had rarely seen him so satisfied before."

-Großadmiral v. Tirpitz 1920, My Memoirs, London: Hurst & Blackett.

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It is the 5h of January, 1905. A select few engineers and members of the Naval Staff, escorted by Admirals Tirpitz and Galster enter the office of Reichskanzler von Mecklenburg. Perhaps aware of the gravity and momentousness of the situation, they present their work in something like religious silence.

Large blueprints are unrolled on the Chancellor's desk. Two engineers quietly and efficiently set up a tripod stand and suspend from it a large, complex and extremely detailed plan of a ship unlike anything the world had seen before.

The meeting draws on; von Mecklenburg shuttles between desk and stand, compares plans and drawings, asks for clarifications. Then, a change in atmosphere; the door opens. The men stiffen up.

The Kaiser walks in.

He briefly and impatiently greets his Staff and von Mecklenburg - but his eyes dart to the plans and blueprints scattered all over the office. After a brief introduction of the engineers present, the Reichskanzler escorts His Majesty to the stand and speaks a few words - then stands a step behind Wilhelm in silence.

The Kaiser stares at the design. He takes in the predatory bow; the massive gun batteries; the gargantuan size of the ship. He draws himeslf up.

"Großer Gott im Himmel," he sighs under his breath. "And it can be done? You are sure?"

His tone is almost accusatory; but von Mecklenburg, Tirpitz and Galster do not flinch. They inform the Kaiser that indeed, Your Majesty, the engineers are confident that the design is viable.

The Kaiser turns to von Mecklenburg; his hand reaches for Tirpitz's shoulder and clamps on it like a vice. His face is pale but his eyes are burning.

"By God," he cries, "By God, build them."

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OOC: Forgot to screenshot the original design again. The design originally left me with less than 100 tons of wiggle room...

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(OOC:...And the minute I lay down the keels, private shipbuilding gives me 1k more tons to play with and I want to scream)

*Ahem*

MEANWHILE IN THE MEDITERRANEAN:

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It is the 1st of February and SMS Hela is on her way to Napoli, there to bombard a pasta factory coastal observation facility.

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Her approach is unscouted and, at 11:00 she identifies an Italian freighter making her best speed towards the port. The German ship opens fire; the Italians abandon their vessel almost immediately.

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Unfortunately, the gunfire alerts an Italian light cruiser squadron that was originally sailing south, toward Sicily. The Italians turn and make full speed back toward Napoli; Hela's lookouts spot them shortly after 11:20.

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First, a small La Spezia-class is identified and Korvettenkapitän Heinrich von Görtz vaccillates. He is certain that his ship can handle this Italian: the La Spezia is woefully slow and is only armed with 5'' rifles.

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But then, the second cruiser slips into view and she's a Taranto. And no, von Görtz has no intention of trying to repeat Hertha's exploits in his little scout cruiser and no desire to go against the Italian's 6-inchers.

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So, he just runs - and the Italians can do little but glare at his rapidly retreating smoke. Hela has two knots on them and von Görtz makes good use of them.

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Even better, his retreat draws the Italians away from the harbor; and U-36 just so happens to be in the area, providing fleet support. An opportunistic torpedo accounts for Adelina, one of the Italian patrol vessels.

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Von Görtz is by no means hailed as a hero, but he does receive a private missive from Galster congratulating him on his wise choice not to risk his ship.

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February - and the engineers pump out the new designs like nobody's business. "War is the father and king of all," as was once said by Heraclitus; it certainly lit a fire under the seat of the German R & D department. Testing began on new range calculators, meant to be fitted to the Von der Tanns upon their completion; and the Zerstörer and U-boote receive improved torpedoes.

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How the **** do you run out of fuel in the Mediterranean? Unless, of course, you were trying to sneak out (say from the British-controlled Suez), in which case I have no sympathy for you.

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And then this happens. Oh-ho-ho. The Amazone is a Gefion - a small, raider design herself and not as heavily armed as the Gazelles, but she should be able to deal with the raider.

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Lookouts identify a cruiser silhouette. They tentatively suggest that it may be a heavy cruiser - but surely the Italians aren't using their heavies for raid-

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HOLY CRAP IT'S THE PISANI

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NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 18, 2017, 10:16:28 am
Getting some battlecruisers out would go a long way to make those cruiser skirmishes end in your favor. Even if it's just the picket ships that end up sunk, losing them can still hamper the enemy.

It's just a shame you don't have something better to arm them with than quality -1 11 inch guns.

May I ask why so much of your maximum displacement is unused? Those extra tons could either go to more armor or a few extra knots of speed.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 19, 2017, 04:19:24 am
Getting some battlecruisers out would go a long way to make those cruiser skirmishes end in your favor. Even if it's just the picket ships that end up sunk, losing them can still hamper the enemy.

It's just a shame you don't have something better to arm them with than quality -1 11 inch guns.

If those BCs get to fight in this war, something will have gone very wrong indeed. They will be building for more than two years!

Also, I'll take what I can get. An 8-gun central-fired broadside of -1 11-inchers is the equal of (and arguably better than) anything the Brits have right now. Also, it renders most of the British predread fleet utterly obsolete and her 25 knots blow every early CA and CL out of the water, which is what is important right now.

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May I ask why so much of your maximum displacement is unused? Those extra tons could either go to more armor or a few extra knots of speed.

None of my maximum displacement is unused. Re-read the small print captions.

I forgot to screenshot the Von der Tann design at the time, so I opened up my 1950 savefile and had a look at the design there. This allows you guys to see the design but assigns technological / weight values that are based on 1950s technology, not 1905. If I were building this in 1950, I would have 3.2k tons still available to fit on the hull, because armor, guns and engines have become lighter over the decades. However, in 1905, I barely had 100 spare tons or so, which I left empty for future fire control upgrades.

What really pissed me off was that I got the 'Private Shipbuilding expands your docks!' event immediately after I laid down these babies. With an extra 1000 tons, I could have given them an extra inch of belt or an extra knot.

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on March 19, 2017, 04:39:56 am
Don't the Brits and Baguettes for that matter have 12' -1 guns at the start? Or were those -2 I forget I haven't played earlygame RTW much recently, something I should probably fix soon
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 19, 2017, 05:04:37 am
I was comparing BROADSIDES, not GUNS.

Brits start with -1 12inchers and Baguettes start with -1 12 inchers inches AND -2 13inchers.

What they don't have at this point in the game is any tech beyond 3 centre line turrets. The best they can bring to hear is 6 12 inchers. The Germans, on the other hand, have an 8 11inch broadside building.

So yeah. Worse guns, but much better utilisation and a bigger broadside weight.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 19, 2017, 12:07:31 pm
Also, doubleposting with major spoiler because I need to brag.

I very much resented the 1950s cutoff point because it meant that I would need to leave a very...interesting war unfinished. I then found a way to screw with the save file and continue playing for another year, until I could bring the war to a close.

I have brought that war to a close and completed this playthrough to my complete, utter and grim satisfaction. Holy crap, was that cathartic.

MAJOR spoilers if you follow the link.

Spoiler:
Ruling the Waves (https://s24.postimg.org/7r1tyz4px/Panama_New_Administration.png)
You and your bull**** endgame budget can go **** yourselves. Bloody Mary Sue nation
Title: Moltke
Post by: Enioch on March 21, 2017, 01:53:36 pm
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SMS Seydlitz under construction in Wilhelmshaven

It was sad to see the focus of the Admiralität shift back from cruisers to capital ships; and, as construction on the Medusas froze to release funds for the Von der Tann-class, I couldn't but lament at the sight of the deserted drydocks. On the other hand, I could not but marvel at the proposed capabilities of the Von der Tann and the Goeben. They took everything about Hertha that I loved: the speed, the toughness, the no-nonsense focus on performance and upscaled it into a capital ship frame that inspired sheer awe.

I freely admit it - I wanted these ships. And then, of course, the Shiffskonstruktionbüreau took everything about those ships that drew me in and distilled it into what would become the Moltke-class and I knew that my future lay with the Schlachtkreuzer.

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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February 1906: The Admiralität, with only ten million Goldmarken in reserve and a monthly deficit of several million, freezes the construction of Arcona and Hamburg. The Medusas were unlucky to have been conceived in the time of the Battlecruiser craze. Work on the Von der Tann and Goeben continues.

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In March, the French fleet sorties to resupply and relieve the German blockade. Their presence proves to be of great assistance, as two Italian blockade runners are forced to scurry back to Napoli.

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Ariadne also spots an Italian light cruiser trying to slip past; the German ship intiates a long, drawn-out pursuit, through a springtime squall; the Italian finally manages to escape after suffering considerable but not critical damage.

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And in April, the German fleet began using the new "Hartmann" signal code (named so after Konteradmiral Alfred Hartmann who pushed for its implementation). Galster also began lobbying for the integration of wireless systems in the fleet; and it was decided to gradually include Marconi systems in all capital ships.

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Crap. That's what happens when Ariadne lets raiders escape.

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Well - nun ist die K**ke am Dampfen. The mood in the Admiralität nosedives. Germany is still limited to relatively poor-quality 11-inchers; and the Brits are already producing 14-inch rifles. Some good news would be nice...

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THE GERMAN PEOPLE STAND BEHIND THEIR KAISER AND THEIR NAVY.

DER TAG WIRD KOMMEN.

In all seriousness - the public response to the winter public subscription campaign of the Admiralität went beyond all expectations - to such an extent that it was decided to proceed to a second phase of capital ship building.

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Also - the next batch of submarines left the slipways.

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Frauenlob chases down the La Spezia and pounds her to scrap off the coast of Kamerun.

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And the R & D department... delivers.

Welcome, Cross-deck Fire. Thou art the rock on which I shall build my fleet.

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Enter the Moltke-class. Same speed as the Von der Tann, so they can operate jointly; same weight of broadside; but the removal of two wing turrets thank to the cross-fire design meant that a massive amount of weight could be economised.

That weight went to armor. The Moltkes had a belt that was a full four inches thicker than the Von der Tann: the belt armor of those Schlachtkreuzer was thicker than the old Schwaben-class predreads. Even more significantly, they were built for fleet command roles, with a reinforced conning tower. Finally, they had a fully splinter-proof deck, two inches thick, running the entire length of the ship, and bigger ammunition magazines.

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An immediate downpayment of five-and-a-half million Goldmarken went to prepare the docks and hire new personel; and construction started by the end of May 1905.

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The same month also marked the completion of the last pre-war submarine batch.

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Back to the front! On the 12th of June, Hela snuck into the gulf of Taranto once more, for a raid on merchant shipping - this time in broad daylight.

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At 14:05 she came across the small, 5k-ton freighter La Bella, whose crew immediately abandoned ship upon sighting of the German raider.

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Two hours later, Hela also engaged the 8k-ton Chimera. The Italian attempted to escape and Hela pursued, sending the enemy ship to the bottom with a few 6-inch shots.

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After a brief...altercaption with a couple of patrolling destroyers, Hela retreated, not wishing to risk any damage to herself.

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Once again, the German cruisers had proven that they could enter Italian waters at will; and sink their merchant shipping uncontested. It was certainly no massive success; but it helped improve morale.

Note that war weariness had started to affect both the military and the civilian population at this point. The initial jingoistic feelings of 1904 had cooled; and it was difficult to ignore the fact that, despite the continuous fighting in the Alpine front (which, by now, had completely stagnated again) and the German blockade, the Italians were nowhere near surrendering.

Or coming out to fight, for that matter. Feiglinge!

[OOC: Note the '2' Unrest. At 10, you lose the game.]

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The Admiralty had no immediate answer to the problem, to the consternation of the Kaiser; so they resorted to what they knew best. They invested in further infrastructure improvements looking towards a more ambitious future capit-

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Oh. Oho.

"Interesting," thought von Mecklenburg. "We need to approach this opportunity to end the war with the care and consideration it deserves, keeping in mind the potential benefits to the German economy and the international diplomatic sit-"

"GIVE ME ALL YOUR STUFF, STUPID PASTA-EATERS," screamed the Kaiser.*

*Dramatisation, performed by professional actors. The Kaiser may not have said "GIVE ME ALL YOUR STUFF, STUPID PASTA-EATERS." But nobody can prove that he didn't say those words at some point. In that order or any other. Thank you for your support of The History Channel.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 21, 2017, 02:13:06 pm
Bring on ze Kaiser BCs!

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 21, 2017, 02:27:03 pm
Patience. They'll show up.  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on March 21, 2017, 02:32:39 pm
Does this game model the blast damage and such that historically made cross-decking not actually all that good?

Also KAISER ****ING WILHEIM NO  :nono:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on March 21, 2017, 02:39:48 pm
Will building a BC satisfy the condition for that battleship proto-kickstarter or do you need to actually build a proper dreadnought?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 21, 2017, 03:12:15 pm
Bring on ze Kaiser BCs!

*snip*

Patience. They'll show up.  :p

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Does this game model the blast damage and such that historically made cross-decking not actually all that good?

Also KAISER ****ING WILHEIM NO  :nono:

Based on my (admittedly brief) research, cross-deck fire was not a bad concept and its implementation by the Germans was a relative success (i.e. their ships were designed in such a way that blast damage on the deck was not a major issue). However, what we usually hear are reports of the 'failed' English implementation of the cross-deck firing layout (in e.g. the Invincibles and Indefatigables). The British ships were designed with the first priority being compatibility with dockyards all over the Empire, which resulted in a cramped turret arrangement and a smaller ship, which suffered more under the stress.

That said, cross-deck capable turrets are heavier than normal wing turrets (they require more reinforcement) and they have a limited arc of fire, both of which are reflected in-game.

Will building a BC satisfy the condition for that battleship proto-kickstarter or do you need to actually build a proper dreadnought?

The kickstarter would be satisfied with a predread (B), a battlecruiser (BC) or a dreadnought (BB) (as long as it has a 'B' in the designation, it's fine).
Title: Making Steam
Post by: Enioch on March 27, 2017, 08:07:49 am
OOC: Sorry for taking so long with this update. I was...otherwise occupied.

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"His Majesty's desire to secure the best possible arrangement for Germany in a peace with Italy was commendable; however, he tended to confuse the 'best' arrangement with the 'most profitable' arrangement.

"This made my work exceedingly difficult as we entered the second year of what would come to be known as the Long War."

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

Well - the Italians would, of course, not give all their 'stuff' to the Kaiser, no matter the latter's dimplomatic acumen. The war continued despite von Mecklenburg's attempts to broker a satisfactory agreement.

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Shortly after the sinking of the peace negotiations, the R & D department submitted their monthly reports. News were mixed. On the one hand, no breakthroughs were reported and the designs proposed by Dr. Benner's submarine development team for enhanced battery capacity for the German submarines had proven to be unreliable disasters, forcing a return to the drawing-board. On the other hand, the yards in Wilhelmshaven and Kiel had begun to implement strict quality control measures in the building of Von der Tann and Goeben and the Admiralty had requested for a codification and implementation of these measures on a wider scale in German shipbuilding.

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Italian raiders continued to operate near Kamerun; and the Vettor Pisani remained a constant thorn in Galster's side in the Mediterranean.

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But then, on the 5th of July, Amazone had a chance to redeem herself for her earlier encounter with the Pisani. Shortly after dawn, Venetia, the last surviving La Spezia-class raider tried to force the German blockade and slip through Gibraltar. What the Italians failed to notice was Amazone, making slow steam a few miles south of Cartagena.

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Amazone fires up her boilers, clears her decks for action and takes up pursuit; the Italian runs.

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But her fate is sealed: Amazone has two knots on her and is packing 6-inch guns to the Italian's 5-inchers. Two hours after first contact, the Venetia goes down, with fourty of her crew; the Germans rescue two hundred more.

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It's a clean victory; and one that has the Kaiser shower praise on the cruiser commanders. Pressure from the Palace to accellerate the construction of the Schlachtkreuzer increases; the Admiralität resists for now, blaming their limited budget.

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Of course, the Kaiser has little to actually complain about. Nothing in the world can compare to the raw tonnage in old battleships the Brits can bring to a fight (almost half a million tons of armor and gun looking askance at the Baltic and the North Sea); but in what concerns modern battlecruisers and capital ships, Germany is actually ahead, the Admiralität making good use of their wartime budget. Germany has four ultra-modern 24k ton Schlachtkreuzer building; Great Britain, on the other hand, only has three battlecruisers and a new experimental 'Dreadnought' under construction, all of which are in the 18k-20k ton range.

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August rolls in. The new quality control measures are implemented in all Imperial Werft drydocks; and a launch date for the Von der Tann is set, exactly two years from now.

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France also smashes an Italian counter-offensive and begins drawing plans for a naval invasion of Sicily, to draw Italian forces away from the northern front and leverage her manpower advantage. The German High Command considers what forces can be detailed to support the French endeavour; the heavy cruisers seem to be the best options.

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In a preparatory patrol, Hertha runs into the Bari, returning from a successful raid off Kamerun. The end result of the engagement surprises nobody - Hertha has pretty much established herself as the terror of the Mediterranean at this point.

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Goddammit, that's three hundred thousand Goldmarken down the drain. For God's sake, Kaleuns stop running your boats into ASW ships.

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Messina makes the Italians proud in the Mediterranean, running the blocakde on three separate occasions.

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And then, finally scouting submarines report that the Italian fleet (or what's left of it) are making steam toward Sardinia. There is a chance here, if only Büchsel can grab it! The German battle-line mobilises...

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And the Italian fleet just runs back to port. Büchsel is frustrated, but claims a strategic victory, as the blockade closes down on Sardinia.

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News from Japan! Unlike the Brits and Germans, they have not committed fully to an 'all-big-gun' design: instead, they are building what the German engineers characterise as a 'super-battleship', with a slow top speed but a devastating secondary broadside. The design is clearly inferior to the German Schlachtkreuzer, but it might be highly effective against the colonial cruisers that the European Powers have deployed in the Far East. Interesting...

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Yeeeeeees.

That 1% weight reduction is a bare-faced lie, by the way. Steam turbines are the single most important engineering upgrade, comparable to All-or-Nothing armor for ship design. They can offer you almost 2 extra knots for the same weight in the 25-26 knot range.

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FFFFFUUUUUUUU.....

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November comes; and the first reports of Italian Armed Merchant Cruisers also make their appearance. The Admiralität is unsure of how to deal with this new development. Projections show that the Italians could, potentially, convert a merchant vessel to a capable raider in under 4 months.

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Now we only need multiple centreline turrets technology...

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"**** YOU, SPAGHETTIS, MY SCHLACHTKREUZERS WILL SHELL YOUR PASTA PLANTATIONS TO THE GROUND. PASTA COMES FROM TREES, RIGHT? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU)" said the Kaiser.

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Yes, yes, all the technology.

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Well. At least you achieved this much. Seriously, U-boote you're kind of a disappointment.

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Title: Re: Making Steam
Post by: StarSlayer on March 27, 2017, 08:40:10 am
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Now we only need multiple centreline turrets technology...

Can has König?

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 27, 2017, 08:43:35 am
Still no Superimposed B or 5+ Centreline.

Cannot has König
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on March 27, 2017, 09:06:13 am
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I9MlJJxbWH8/UP7routh3sI/AAAAAAAAGp0/esEVB5E3EbM/s1600/mr-t-crying.gif)

At least has Seydlitz?

(http://battleshiplist.com/battleships/germany/seydlitz/images/seydlitz_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 27, 2017, 09:09:41 am
Can has Seydlitz  :yes:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on March 27, 2017, 09:12:23 am
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OOC: Sorry for taking so long with this update. I was...otherwise occupied.

Mass Effect Andromeda or Nier: Automata? :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 27, 2017, 09:15:32 am
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OOC: Sorry for taking so long with this update. I was...otherwise occupied.

Mass Effect Andromeda or Nier: Automata? :P

Heh. Neither. Writing - other stuff.  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on March 27, 2017, 09:17:54 am
Oooh. Intriguing.
Title: Goddess of War
Post by: Enioch on March 31, 2017, 11:29:43 am
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The continuous pressure from the palace to conclude as advantageous a peace with Italy as possible galvanised the crews. I spent much more time than before away from the front, overseeing the building of the Schlachtkreuzer, but when in the Mediterranean, I was surprised to see how eager the crew of the Hertha and the other cruisers were to "finally break the Italians".

"We know we've won," the Gunnery Officer of the Vineta once told me, "and they know we've won. Now they only have to admit it."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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January 1906: the Christmas Truce ends and the German Navy sails up to the Italian harbors and institutes a close blockade, fuelled by French and German coalers. The Italians, unfortunately, stay in the harbors, to Büchsel's intense frustration.

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News from Greece cheered him up, though. The Carlo Alberto had attempted to return to Taranto to refuel but it could not breach the blocakde and it had to be interned in Patras.

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And on the 13th of February, shortly after noon, the three Zerstörer G9, G10 and S14 made a push on the Sardinian harbor of Cagliari. The weather was appalling, with gale-force winds and heavy rain, that really stressed the little ships.
 
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17:48: A dark shape looms out of the gale, less than a hundred yards from G9. The Zerstörer's helmsman is slow to react; and G9 rams the unknown ship at almost 20 knots.

Thankfully, whatever the ship is, it doesn't seem to have any armor and the G9's prow cuts into its hull like a hot knife. The G10 and S14 turn to respond; and in the darkness they make out several more dark shapes sailing past. Identification signals are flashed but receive no response; the Germans open fire, in a chaotic short-range brawl.

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The two squadrons eventually fade into the gale. It takes two days for the Germans to find out (from Italian statements) that their three Zerstörers had inadvertedly run into an eight-ship convoy, protected by a five-destroyer flotilla. Three of the Italian transports had been lost with all hands in the storm; one of their destroyers had also suffered considerable damage.

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Goddamn it, but the light forces are winning this for us.

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March 1906; almost two years into the Long War. The R & D department metaphorically kicks down the door to Tirpitz's office. They claim to have solved the torpedo problem. Underwater protection should render the next generation of German capital ships proof against this most dangerous of weapons. Unfortunately, it is impossible to integrate it into the Von der Tann and Moltke designs at this stage of their construction. But soon, soon...

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Also, improved batteries and lighter engines for the submarine fleet! Perhaps they'll start pulling their own weight, eh?

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Mein Gott, she's a goddess of war. The Pisani was a bigger ship and Hertha doesn't even need dockyard time.

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A bit of an interesting observation. Every nation that perceives Germany...negatively has built massive minesweeper fleets. In contrast, France is puttering along at a sedate 4 patrol vessels. That's the AI trying to counter what they perceive as the biggest threat. Well, at least the submarines have caused the AI to waste money on patrol vessels instead of Dreadnoughts.

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April; Hela enters the French drydocks in Mers-el-Kebir, with a faulty condenser. Her crew are incensed; they feel their absence from the front lines will prolong the war. Officers and crew together write a missive to Galster, asking for accellerated repairs; Galster is supportive and a three-month repair job gets finished in sixty days.

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Finally, after two bloody years, the blockade seems to truly take effect. Büchsel tightens the noose.

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That R & D. Glorious. DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHI.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on March 31, 2017, 01:37:53 pm
Hammerzeit?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on March 31, 2017, 01:58:15 pm

Not yet, not yet.   :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on March 31, 2017, 04:06:32 pm
These subs are amazing  :lol: enemy nations trying to counter something that absolutely needs no countering at this stage.
Whereas Hertha is actually amazing
Title: The December Peace
Post by: Enioch on April 05, 2017, 05:05:36 am
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His Excellency, the Herzog von Mecklenburg on the 1906 peace talks

"For the third time, peace negotiations had been derailed by His Majesty, out of what I can only imagine to be a mistaken impression of what our enemies were willing to surrender. The Italians were a hardy foe (as they had proven aggain and again on the battlefield) and they perceived the Long War as more of a challenge than a direct threat. Despite the long, drawn-out hostilities, there was still a healthy amount of respect and, to some twisted degree, even camaraderie between the clashing Armies and Navies, as evidenced, primarily, by the Christmas Truces and the several occasions of German ships allowing a selective lifting of the blockade. The Italians were not as desperate as His Majesty would have liked to believe; and, after the end of the war, I had the chance to speak candidly with some of their officers and diplomats.

"'Of course we knew we were going to lose the war,' Lieutenant General Ermanno Aebi told me in May 1910, when I had the pleasure and honor of meeting him in Vienna, 'The important thing was to win the peace, not the war. Your Kaiser nearly jeopardised that as well.'"

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

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July 1906. The Peace negotiations have foundered once again; the Germans are asking for much more than the Italians are willing to give. Spirits are low in the Admiralität as the war is likely to extend over several more months. Some celebration is had when the R & D department reports that improved compressed air containers for the German torpedoes are now ready to be put into production.

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And then spirits promptly fall again as the submarine service reports this month's losses. There is simply nothing to sink out there; the German submariners just sail around and put themselves in danger for no reason.

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Thankfully, the French carry their weight with a summer offensive over the Alps. Considerable progress is made; after more than two years of war, the French are now at the gates of Turin and are shelling Genoa. The German Navy once again seeks to draw the Italians out...

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...but the Italians refuse to engage, to the exasperation of Büchsel.

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And then, a potential opening. German and French intelligence have collaborated in locating and hosting the known revolutionary and anarchist Paolo Badoglio; they are considering smuggling him back into Italy, where he might foster discontent and discord.

The Kaiser is incensed and nearly torpedoes the nascent project. The French, however, are adamant: their armies have been dying in the Alpine front for two years and this stalemate needs to end. They have little concern about the dangers to monarchy this move will create; they want the war brought to a swift close. Von Mecklenburg agrees; and after two weeks of argument, the Kaiser is convinced.

Hertha has the dubious honour of ferrying Badoglio to Sicily, where he is put ashore under cover of nightfall. He is welcomed there by others of his ilk and gets to work, for a time slipping under the radar of the Germans and French.

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August: R & D reports the development of new, smaller and lighter boiler designs...

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...no change in the 'Italians don't wanna fight' front...

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...and yes! - SMS Medusa slips the ways. She's a small minnow compared to the Schlachtkreuzer under construction, but she's welcomed to the navy with open arms. The Kaiser, still moody and discontent at the recent turn of events, is present in the commissioning ceremony and appears revitalised, on the deck of the little cruiser.

"My knights-errant of the seas," he says to Galster and Tirpitz, who are also present. "I know her time is already past, but I'll be damned if she isn't a beauty."

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His mood would nosedive in September, when the Italian raiders sortied in a concentrated effort, slipping past the blockade on numerous occasions. And their fleet refused to fight, verdammnt nochmal!.

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Go die in a fire, Spaghettis.

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Holy crap.

Literally overnight, Italy explodes in anti-war and anti-monarchy riots. Half of Napoli is burning. And Badoglio is in the middle of everything.

It is difficult to describe the ferocity of the disturbances of October 1906; the October Revolution, as it has been described by some, was barely contained; and resentment continued to simmer under the surface. The French were ecstatic at the success of the ploy; the Germans...not so much. Von Mecklenburg had anticipated something along those lines, but the success of Badoglio worried him immensely; and the less said about the Kaiser's reaction, the better.

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As for the Italians, they finally broke. A communiqué was sent to Berlin, asking for peace negotiations to commence.

Von Mecklenburg, for the first time, was hesitant. On the one hand, the military lobbied for a hard position: "They are broken," Tirpitz argued. "Let them collapse and we'll pick up the pieces. On the other hand, the Kaiser was adamant that peace should be agreed upon without delay, for the situation in Italy had to be contained before it spiraled out of control. "This is your making," he told von Mecklenburg in an uncharacteristic display of foresight, "yours and the French's. Fix this, or every crown in Europe will fall by the end of the decade."

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And so, peace was agreed upon; and, in an ironic twist of fate so common to the political stage, the Germans and French were called in to crack down on the riots their own agent had started.

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On the 20th of November, peace was formalised. France would get no territorial gains, but would claim the lion's share of the war reparations; a sum that would bring the Italian economy to its knees for the next five years and wouldn'd be paid off fully until the 1920s. Germany, on the other hand, would stand to gain both more and less.

For Von Mecklenburg, in a shocking twist, adopted a stance that was the exact opposite of the 1901 Russian Peace. He asked for no sums of money or any sort of war reparations from the Italians; instead, he asked for territory.

The entirety of Sardinia, to be exact.

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And so, we come to the end of the Long War; a war that raged for 30 months and left its bloody stain in Europe for years to come; a war that was conceived as a diversion and a challenge; a war that was birthed in perfidy, in the finest tradition of old Albion; and a war that granted Germany her greatest prize since the days of Bismarck.

A naval base in the Mediterranean.

Tremble world. Germany is here to stay.


OOC: No autoplay because I am a kind and considerate storyteller. Ahem. I am pointedly looking at some people here. You know who you are.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 05, 2017, 07:59:27 am
Out of curiosity does the use of anarchists and revolutionaries as agents actually backfire in some cases?  Specifically if your intended target falls into glorious proletariat revolution is there a chance for it to spread and destabilize yourself or other nations?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 05, 2017, 08:10:16 am
Very yes.

There's a high chance you'll get the "socialist propaganda is infecting our troops " event (instant +3 unrest)  and allowing revolutionaries to run around increases the chance that socialist parties might gain ground in domestic elections. Which ****s up discipline something fierce and forces you to either suppress propaganda in the navy (hello, unrest) or negotiate with the reds (goodbye prestige).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on April 05, 2017, 11:02:16 am
Fun fact: There is historical precedent for that revolutionary event. In real life, Germany did send a revolutionary back to his homeland during WW1 to get their government to collapse. They succeeded and forced a very demanding peace treaty on that nation.

That revolutionary was a man named Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known to the world as Lenin.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on April 05, 2017, 11:54:30 am
The war of declined battles and sewer pipes taking up permanent residence on the sea bed.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 05, 2017, 01:55:13 pm
Fun fact: There is historical precedent for that revolutionary event. In real life, Germany did send a revolutionary back to his homeland during WW1 to get their government to collapse. They succeeded and forced a very demanding peace treaty on that nation.

That revolutionary was a man named Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known to the world as Lenin.

It's also interesting to note that, IRL, the Kaiser was very much against this.

Also, it was hilarious to see the 'big disturbance' event trigger in October. Glorious Italian Red October per tutti.

Also, ****ing Wilhelm did it again. I was looking for a decent peace for almost three years, with my diplomats failing all the way; then, I get the Italians on the brink of collapse and ask for the war to continue for MAYBE two or three more months, so that I can lolgrab their entire colonial empire. Guess when Kaiser ****ing William's "Cautious" trait triggers... :banghead:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on April 05, 2017, 01:58:22 pm
Leave it to Willy to be an irreconcilable hawk all day except the one time it would actually have been beneficial. I'm curious to see how you'll explain he got to making that rather questionable decision.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 05, 2017, 02:03:47 pm
During negotiations how does the acquisition of enemy territory work by the way?  Does the game make it more difficult to nab the crown jewels ie Panama, Suez, Gibraltar than say some piddly atoll in the Pacific?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on April 05, 2017, 02:07:26 pm
You can ask for X value of territory during a victory-peace, the X you get depends on how favorable the peace is to you. Territories have values relative to their worth, colonies usually vary from 1-3. Peace-by-enemy-revolution gives you a very high prize value of around 10, which lets you take massive chunks of land like say, Finland from Russia. You can never take 'core' territories like Austria-Hungary's only holding.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 05, 2017, 05:14:12 pm
Torchwood covered the basics. A few more points of some significance:

The value of the territories that you can annex at the end of a victorious war is computed based on VP difference, length of war and unrest levels of the two opponents. 4 is the default, corresponding to a couple of low-value colonies; 5-6 you can get with a clear victory, which includes heavy war weariness for the enemy and 10 is reserved for victory by anarchy. The latter also gives you the option to claim an enemy ship as a war prize.

Any points that you do not use to claim colonies do not go to waste. They are translated to 'war reparations' and directly add to your  core territory value. Now, this is important. Colonial holdings lose some of their value gradually, while the value of your core holdings is never reduced. In fact, through the "productivity soars!" messages, your core holdings' value increases by a set percentage several times throughout the game. This means that annexing new territory might not be the best option. If your priority after the war is to improve economically, it is ALWAYS better to ask for reparations instead of holdings. That said, colonies can give you strategic basing options (such as Sardinia, in this case, which gives me access to the Med if I spend the money to really upgrade her), oil, access routes (Suez, Panama) or you might just ask for a colony simply to deny it to the enemy (e.g. kick another Power completely out of a sector or steal their main base).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on April 05, 2017, 05:32:03 pm
That much reflects the real life situation of Germany. Not sure how accurately RtW models this, but relatively speaking, Germany's IRL colonies were garbage. Not much to offer in the way of resources, hot and unpleasant to be in, tablescrap pieces of land England and France that were not England's or France's first picks or even second picks, in short, a venture that pissed off a lot of major powers for little gain.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 05, 2017, 10:38:39 pm
Do holding key strategic locations yield the corresponding benefits? For example occupying Panama or the Suez effecting transit times while something like The Rock would bottleneck the Med.   

If so do you need to keep your ships within certain dimensions in order to take advantage of said canals?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 06, 2017, 01:06:28 am
That much reflects the real life situation of Germany. Not sure how accurately RtW models this, but relatively speaking, Germany's IRL colonies were garbage. Not much to offer in the way of resources, hot and unpleasant to be in, tablescrap pieces of land England and France that were not England's or France's first picks or even second picks, in short, a venture that pissed off a lot of major powers for little gain.

All of Germany's starting colonies are CRAP, with a value of 1-2 (especially her Pacific holdings). The sole exception are Tsingtao and Kiautchou bay, which, if I remember correctly are 3s (much income, very wow).

That said, if you spend the money to upgrade them (their fleet capacity, that is - there is no way you can upgrade their income potential), they can be excellent refuelling and fleet basing points. Germany has colonies in all important map sectors barring the Med and the Americas; and, most importantly, she can bring her ships from Northern Europe to the Pacific with coating stations along the way (I.e she is not suffering from Voyage of the Damned syndrome).

Do holding key strategic locations yield the corresponding benefits? For example occupying Panama or the Suez effecting transit times while something like The Rock would bottleneck the Med.   

If so do you need to keep your ships within certain dimensions in order to take advantage of said canals?

Yes and no, respectively. The Canals are indeed chokepoints and key passages and the Power that owns them prohibits transit to ships of any Nation with which Tensions have risen to 6 or above (I think it's 6).

Ships don't need to be limited in size because the game hardcaps you to 52000 tons, remember? The Iowas could barely scrape through Panama (which is the main bottleneck) and they were 57k tons at full load, so bigger than anything you can build in RtW.

Title: Launch Day
Post by: Enioch on April 13, 2017, 08:50:41 am
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- PART 3 -
Securing the East

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The Vittorio Emanuele avenue in Cagliari, Sardinia, 1906. It was renamed to Wilhelm I avenue in early 1907

"The situation in Italy was quickly deteriorating and His Majesty was very much against allowing the Royalist Italian Forces to be overrun by the rebels. I shared his concern; the revolutionaries were considerably more successful than what we had originally anticipated and, while I respected the Military's demand to push until the knife reached the bone, my primary concern was long-term stability in Europe, not short-term gains. The collapse of the Italian Government to the anarchists would set up a dangerous precedent and might precipitate a more active British intervention that we felt we were unable to counter at the time.

"That said, the December Peace resulted in the official annexation of Sardinia into the German
Bund and Zollverein, with a status comparable to the Lothringen and Elsass territories. I understand that our Admirals were ecstatic at the chance to now operate from a secure naval base in the Mediterranean."

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

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It is Christmas of 1906: and for the first time in years the entirety of the German fleet (barring a few unfortunate gunboats and patrol vessels) are recalled to the North Sea and the Baltic. Leaves are granted en masse. And the Admiralität decrees that all live-fire training is to cease for the foreseeable future; resources need to be economised in the aftermath of the war, and set aside for the completion of the Schlachtkreuzer and the dredging up of new Naval bases in Sardinia.

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Plans are also laid down for a massive rebuilding of the German coastal patrol vessels. The 'Piepers' have been in constant service since the end of the 19th century and need to be overhauled and refitted. The expenses are minimal and the job can be handled by civilian dockyards, who are more than happy for the work.

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At this point in time, the French approached the Admiralität with a desire to study the designs of the German Schlachtkreuzer. The French Admirals and engineers were very much impressed with the German 'wing turret' designs; and a proposal was made to purchase the licence for the French Marine Nationale. Tirpitz and Galster were not averse to the idea (especially after consulting with their engineers) and von Mecklenburg jumped at the opportunity to further smooth over relations with the neighbours. The purchase of the German designs was completed in late January, for a sum of three and a quarter million pounds sterling.

There was no official response from Great Britain, but Intelligence reported "considerable concern", particularly among the high echelons of the Royal Navy.

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The following months were relatively calm, among the navy - the Army, on the other hand was primarily occupied with cracking down on the revolutionaries in Italy. Hostilities would continue until April, when the Royalist forces finally secured a victory. Around the same time, German engineers introduced large-payload torpedo designs, contributing to the considerable modernisation of the German submarine fleet.

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Uh... France. Are you seriously still building predreads?

Well, I suppose she may have been under construction since before the deal came through. But seriously, that's several million franks headed directly towards the 'obsolete' bucket.

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In early May, new docks were completed in Wilhelmshaven and Köln. Germany could now build 29k ton capital ships and her ship designers rubbed their hands together in glee.

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We are not interested, 'Muricans. German Science will find its own way. Also, you're seriously asking us to pay good money for this crap? It's not even a main tech!

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June 1907: and the new torpedoes get new aiming systems to complement them. German subs are getting deadlier every day; but the submarine service still has to wash off the stigma of the 'iron coffins' it developed during the Italian war.

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Baguettes you are the best allies ever. Not like the bloody Yanks.

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Well. It was nice knowing you, Von der Tann. And Goeben. And Moltke. And Seydlitz. You are now all obsolete before leaving the slipways.

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Heh. And the Americans wanted us to pay good money for this not three months ago. Told you German Science would deliver.

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In September 1907, the Admiralität rejoices. Firstly, the R & D department sets the date for the testing of the new 12'' rifles on the 20th of the month. These are the first capital-grade guns that Germany develops above her now-standard low-quality 11'' rifles, and they are beauties, considerably better than the British 12'' rifles on the Schwabens. But this is not the only thing worth celebrating.

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(https://s18.postimg.cc/cmid1zrjd/232bff05ztpup.jpg)

For on the 22nd of the same month, the Von der Tann is formally commissioned into His Majesty's Hochseeflotte. The first German Schlachtkreuzer sails the seas. Tremble, Britain, and despair!

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She is followed, two months later, by her sister ship, the Goeben. The commissioning is a truly grand affair; and the French dispatch their own cruiser, Jean-Bart, to show the flag in the festivities and get a glimpse of what their own Marine Nationale might be like in a few years, now that they too possess wing turret designs. The Kaiser's mood is so buoyant that he showers compliments on the French officers, compliments that they are happy to return. Tensions between the two countries have never been so low.

During the closing stages of the ceremony, the Kaiser approaches Tirpitz. Pleasentries are exchanged; the Kaiser expresses his complete satisfaction with the Admiralität and the new ships. Then he grows silent for a while and looks over the decks of the ship wistfully.

"Tirpitz," he finally exclaims, in the usual 'and-damn-the-torpedoes' voice that his Staff have come to absolutely dread. "We need more."

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 13, 2017, 09:13:50 am
So Bayern or Derfflinger to satisfy the Kaiser?

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on April 13, 2017, 09:26:22 am
What good are four centerline turret designs if you won't build them, after all.....
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on April 13, 2017, 10:27:24 am
I can't help but have this nagging feeling about all these capitalships becoming obsolete before even leaving the docks.

I can't quite put it into words, but it bothers me.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 13, 2017, 12:05:10 pm
I can't help but have this nagging feeling about all these capitalships becoming obsolete before even leaving the docks.

I can't quite put it into words, but it bothers me.

 :lol:

Welcome to the 1900s, where every passing month can mean your entire fleet may become obsolete.

So Bayern or Derfflinger to satisfy the Kaiser?

*snip*

What good are four centerline turret designs if you won't build them, after all.....

Guys. This is 1907. And Germany still has no superfiring B turrets...or any gun bigger than the new 12" rifles... :p

You're going to see a lot of crazy designs before things start to make sense again.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 13, 2017, 12:22:05 pm
Backwards Tone? :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 13, 2017, 12:35:27 pm
Backwards Tone? :lol:

Brilliant! [/Guinness] :drevil:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on April 13, 2017, 05:41:42 pm
Hey, at least you're going to have a lot of weight saved by those tiny main batteries to put towards speed and armor. :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on April 14, 2017, 08:03:41 am
At least those crew member have those funnels to keep them cool

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/cartoons/images/6/64/Windmils_don%27t_work_that_way.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070717164907)

Funnels do not work that way!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on April 15, 2017, 06:29:16 pm
Excuse  me, but:
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In early May, new docks were completed in Wilhelmshaven and Köln. Germany could now build 29k ton capital ships and her ship designers rubbed their hands together in glee.
Köln? AFAIK there were no shipyards that size, but ok^^

Can you cancel and scrap ships during their construction?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 16, 2017, 01:36:05 am
Excuse  me, but:
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In early May, new docks were completed in Wilhelmshaven and Köln. Germany could now build 29k ton capital ships and her ship designers rubbed their hands together in glee.
Köln? AFAIK there were no shipyards that size, but ok^^

There are now. We've poured more than twenty million Goldmarken into them. :P

This Germany's shipbuilding infrastructure is considerably more advanced than OTL Germany.  We can build bigger ships than the OTL Kaisers two years before the first Kaiser was laid down...

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Can you cancel and scrap ships during their construction?

Yes. You'll get some of your money back in scrap steel. Note that the Kaiser/Ministry might veto the scrapping of ships under construction, unlike ships in service .

Also:
Hey, at least you're going to have a lot of weight saved by those tiny main batteries to put towards speed and armor. :lol:

This. But less of this than you think.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on April 16, 2017, 03:29:20 am
There are now. We've poured more than twenty million Goldmarken into them. :P

This Germany's shipbuilding infrastructure is considerably more advanced than OTL Germany.  We can build bigger ships than the OTL Kaisers two years before the first Kaiser was laid down...

Yes, well, that doesn't really change the fact that Cologne is a really bad place for a major capital shipyard. Unless you're also paying to dredge up the Rhine so that capital ships can pass through it, and have reasonably good relations with the dutch to do the same on their end :P
Germany's shipbuilding is concentrated, for fairly obvious reasons, in Bremen, Bremerhaven, Hamburg and Kiel (the latter being the traditional home of the german submarine fleet)

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 16, 2017, 07:00:20 am
Holy crap, I just realised. Kiel, not Köln. WTF, Enioch?

Blame the typographer demon and the fact that I am currently more than a little tipsy.

Χριστός Ανέστη, everyone and Happy Easter. Lamb-on-a-spot-spit is particularly tasty this year. :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on April 17, 2017, 06:35:43 am
Holy crap, I just realised. Kiel, not Köln. WTF, Enioch?

Blame the typographer demon and the fact that I am currently more than a little tipsy.

Χριστός Ανέστη, everyone and Happy Easter. Lamb-on-a-spot is particularly tasty this year. :p

Aaargh, guys, you are making this too easy!

Must... resist.... temptation....






(https://s23.postimg.org/yl9gsm40b/eisenbahn.jpg)

Die Deutschen und Ihnen wunderbare Eisenbahn!

Bitte alle einsteigen zu dem Zug von Köln nach Kiel!

The front part of the ship is actually near to the scale of the train. It does make me wonder if the guys who took the original photos ever thought they could be used to create an abomination art like this :lol:
Title: The Wittelsbach Family
Post by: Enioch on April 20, 2017, 11:16:47 am
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The final plans for the Schlachtkreuzer SMS Wittelsbach, before her keel was laid down

"We were drunk on the spirit of our successes. The Wittelsbachs would usher in a new age of German supremacy on the oceans.

"We overcommited. We failed. There is no putting it gently.

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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The Admiralität was ambivalent with regards to the Kaiser's demand. On the one hand, the Brits were well on the way to strengthening their nascent battlecruiser fleet, in response to Germany's escalation. On the other, the Naval budget was strained already; and there was considerable discontent among the population regarding the armament expenditures, so long after the end of war (you try to convince those damn socialists that si vis pacem, para bellum. Bismarck was right in trying to eliminate their ilk from politics...)

With the admirals vaccilating, the R & D department submitted designs for naval-scale oil-fired boilers. Now, if only Germany could secure a domestic oil production sufficient to fuel her fleet...

Until she did, her ships would have to remain coil-fired.

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January comes and Germany rejoices. As part of the Neujahr celebrations, Goeben returns from her shakedown cruise and fires a gun salute in honour of the imperial family in Wilhelmshaven. Germany now posesses the two most deadly ships in the world and they are ready for active duty.

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The festive mood is somewhat ruined when emissaries from Japan arrive, requesting to buy a license for the German torpedo-belt pattents. They are quietly shown the door. Germany doesn't even have a ship with these belts in production yet - she's not about to allow a third-rate Power to outbuild her.

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In February, the Kaiser requests an update from the Admiralität on their plans for the construction of new Schlachtkreuzer. He is incensed when von Tirpitz and Galster inform him of the budgetary concerns. After a short discussion with von Mecklenburg and representatives of the DKP and FKP (boosted to particularly high levels after the wars), he set in motion the necessary procedures for increasing the Naval budget.

The Admiralität knows a lost fight when they see one and, in all frankness, they're interested to see what the engineers will draw up. Planning begins on the third class of German battlecruisers, for now referred to as SK-E

(https://s8.postimg.cc/5e5y1hnxx/Screenshot_3364.png)

**** you 'Murica, we need the money.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/52ohoq7hx/Screenshot_3365.png)

German fixation on quality munitions delivers again. AP 'caps' are added to German shells as an experiment, although extensive live-fire tests are postponed for now.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/w1scjvtyt/Screenshot_3366.png)

See 'Muricans? The Italians are nice people. And they don't bear a grudge, apparently. They can have this insignificant ROF tech for a good sum of money.

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April arrives - and the designs for the SK-E-class battlecruisers are presented to the Admiralität. The SK-Es are everything the Moltke-class are, just better in most conceivable ways.

For one thing, they are truly massive ships - at 31k tons, they set a new standard for warships. They're almost half again as big as the Moltkes and it shows. They are armed with the new 12-inchers, in a five-turret, cross-deck-fire, AFKXY configuration; their armor is an inch thinner in the belt, but they have an extra inch on the turrets, they implement a torpedo belt, and they can reach the 25 knots that are, by now, standard for German Schlachtkreuzer.

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Three are ordered, immediately, from the Blohm & Voss shipbuilders. They are to be named Wittelsbach, Derfflinger and Lützow...

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...and the downpayment takes up more than a third of the Admiralität budgetary reserves. Ouch.

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****. That could have been helpful a month earlier. That's another inch of belt armor right there.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/hnoys5851/Screenshot_3370.png)

This is both bad and good. On the one hand, having the option to build light cruisers with the sloped deck armor scheme is a huge advantage over the earlier 'protected' scheme. On the other hand, the frozen Arcona is now utterly obsolete and unlikely to be completed anytime soon, given the massive drain on the budget that the Schlachtkreuzer represent.

And the R & D breakthroughs just keep coming.

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Holy crap, guys. All this in one month?

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Yes, indeed.

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Well, the writing's on the wall for poor Arcona. She's been cluttering up the docks for more than a year now, and she's going to be quite outdated by the time she's complete. Time to scrap her and use her steel on the Schlachtkreuzer. Sad, but necessary.

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Well, crap.

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Ahahaha. Battlecruiser operational, mother****ers.

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The news hit the Admiralität like thunder out of the blue. Counterintelligence reports that British spies have, somehow, gotten their grubby mitts on the new AP cap designs. The ensuing investigation sees the end of the careers of seven officers, who, apparently, thought that security rules were guidelines. The Kaiser is livid and, this time, for good reason. A communiqué is drafted and sent to His British Majesty's Government in the strongest language von Mecklenburg can muster; and the Kaiser's rants almost peel the paint off the walls.

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His Majesty's mood darkens even further when he visits the shipyards in June and finds the works on the Moltke and the three Wittelsbachs frozen for the month, as the Admiralität is desperately trying to scrounge up the necessary funds. Admirals and engineers scramble for cover in the face of his wrath.

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Yeah, uh-huh. A fishing boat. In German territorial waters. Near our Naval Bases. An American fishing boat. In the Baltic Sea. Uh-huh. Sure, 'Muricans. Get the **** out.

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July comes - and finally, some good news. Never mind the 700-ton torpedobats the French are building - Germany can build bigger! If we ever find the funds to build anything but bloody capital ships.

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Also - and this really helps the Kaiser perk up: Blohm & Voss are equally embarrassed about the June fiasco as the Admiralität. They propose to lay down a fourth Wittelsbach-class ship, as an apology - with a 10% discount.

Welcome to the family, Hindenburg! You're going to make us all so proud one day!



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Also come to experience ship battles IN SPACE and the glory that is Spoon-sempai's WoDverse.  :p

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 20, 2017, 12:31:15 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/www.crowsworldofanime.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/saga-tanya-20170212-figure03.png?ssl=1)

"While I deeply appreciate the thought of naming a ship after me I don't think I have quite accrued the career achievements to warrant it at this point in the timeline?  Perhaps the esteemed von Blücher maybe a more august hero of the Empire deserving the honor?"

-Paul von Hindenburg
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 20, 2017, 02:18:55 pm
"Typical Hindenburg. We named her after the place, not you.

It's not like I want to give you something nice. You egocentric D-dummkopf!"

-KaiserWilly
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 20, 2017, 02:29:51 pm
The village of 428 souls in Saxony-Anhalt? :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 20, 2017, 05:05:09 pm
S-shut up!  :nervous:

"Dear diary, today Hindenburg beat  me in manoeuvres. He is so inconsiderate. I don't get why everyone likes him, I really don't. And all that after I named the latest battlecruiser after him..."

Love,
-W

Seriously, though, Germany has gone through two wars she DIDN'T go through in OTL, one of which with Russia. You can safely assume he more than distinguished himself as a Lieutenant General in the Russian front and maybe Italy as well. The problem is that we are following the accomplishments of the German Navy, not the Army... :doubt:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on April 20, 2017, 07:46:02 pm
(https://media.tenor.co/images/6e1d406deca5571db66c28d5c0f49edf/tenor.gif)

Oberste Heeresleitung, we plan massive ground campaigns as a calling and cause the Admiralstab to flip the table for fun!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 21, 2017, 03:21:27 am

Necessary musical accompaniment to the above .gif. ;)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Torchwood on April 22, 2017, 02:20:30 pm
I can't help but notice that some of those random events are a little too eurocentric and don't really fit the US at all...

Sooo, here's hoping the Hindeburg doesn't blow up from a random flash fire or magazine explosion. IRL, having TNT primers (which the British lacked at WW1) helped. That, and the German emphasis on keeping their ships armored which British battlecruisers often sacrificed to have speed and big guns. Incidentally, those had a history of dying to catastrophic magazine hits.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: niffiwan on April 22, 2017, 06:28:02 pm
I thought that the points expressed here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?s=75615728205ce0fe5a629ad1c1d9de90&u=61859) were most accurate as to the reasons for British BC's blowing up. Namely:

1) poor magazine safety procedures (which IIRC the Germans also had problems with, after Dogger Bank they learned their lesson & fixed procedural laxness, whereas the British did not)
2) stability of the cordite (which I think you're referring to with TNT primers?)

The difference in armour is less significant to their survival.
Title: The Eastern Front
Post by: Enioch on April 23, 2017, 11:47:30 am
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The launching of the Brazilian battlecruiser 'Minas Geraes' in Wilhelmshaven

"It was clear to me that the increased tensions with Russia were due to no small degree to the covert interference of the British.

"It was my opinion that an eventual war with the British was unavoidable. It was, therefore, imperative that we prepare the international scene. We had, therefore, to secure our eastern borders once and for all."

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

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July 1908: Brazil approaches the European market with the intention of commissioning a total of three modern capital ships for her growing navy. The British firm Armstrong-Whitworth submit a design for 22k-ton battleships; the Germans counter with a licence to modified Moltke-class 25k-ton designs, with an added torpedo belt and 12-inch main batteries. The Brazilians, to the surprise and horror of the British, go for the more rugged, tough German designs despite their smaller guns and Blohm & Voss lay down the keels in August with a wide smile, filled with Shadenfreude. The Admiralität graciously take their cut.

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In August, the Reichsministerium der Finanzen publishes their statistical findigs on the German economy. The integration of Sicily into the Bund has added a Mediterranean harbor, with all its benefits, to the German economy; as a result, industry and finance are booming.

Von Mecklenburg notes a considerable reduction in the influx of raw resources from Russia. The Russians are stalling and, in some cases, outright sabotaging the German industrialists' attempts to harvest the Russian mineral wealth. He is savvy enough to realise that 'cousin Nicky' has been talking to people he shouldn't have.

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A few months later, R & D submit their designs for submarine Diesel engines. This is a groundbreaking development and Galster does not miss its implications. Germany begins to stockpile Diesel fuel for her submarine fleet; and Galster orders the design of a larger U-boot class, built from the keel up to incorporate all the latest developments in submarine warfare.

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Tirpitz, on the other hand, releases more funds for the expansion of Germany's drydocks. By the end of 1909, Germany will be able to build ships of at least 35k tons.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/7auu1km7d/Screenshot_3391.png)

Ahaha. Ger-money. All the Ger-money. With the Russian faucet drying up, German industrialists focus on improving their infrastructure and seeking new markets in the Mediterranean - and it works.

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And then, on the 24th of January 1909, little Hela runs aground on the shores of Romania, less than three miles off the Russian border. The Russians squeal and write Romania a white check from a diplomatic standpoint. Von Mecklenburg and Tirpitz, on the other hand, respond immediately. The Ottoman Empire is contacted; and the Sublime Porte graciously grants permission for the Schwaben and the Mecklenburg, with a small escorting force of Zerstörer to travel through the Hellespont and put pressure on the Romanians. They eventually back down and release Hela; but Russia grumbles and von Mecklenburg formally advises German nationals to leave Russia.

Also, this perceived bit of interventionism has Turkey explode in a semi-coup; the so-called "Young Turks" make their move. Germany observes the developments with some concern.

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(https://s12.postimg.cc/4px8hc67x/0c0ad93aed4c6c7d0ded5cacc01ea1c2dd9df341_hq.gif)

Ahahaha. AHAHAHA.

Triple turrets. In 1909. Oh my God, Germany can build a Scharnhorst right now.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/3wcnlfqsp/Screenshot_3395.png)

But priorities, priorities. The Russians are making noise and Germany needs to have a response ready. First - make certain that the Alliance with France is still solid. Second - start up training the fleet. If the worst comes to happen and there's war, it will be imperative to utterly crush the Russian forces. This will clear up the eastern front and allow Germany to focus all of her forces on the war with Britain.

The Admiralität freezes the construction of the Derfflinger and Lützow. Enough funds are economised to begin live-fire training again.

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That proves to be for the best as February rolls in. German agents report that the Russians are pouring more money into their fleet as well.

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R & D delivers again, with a new generation of analog, mechanical fire-control systems. These are easily and quickly retrofitted into the fleet.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/yuirwj889/Screenshot_3399.png)

March 1909. A sekrit secret folder finds its way to the Admiralität thanks to moles in the Russian shipyards. The German Admirals pore over the Russian designs with trepidation, eager to plumb the minds of the enemy.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/908z6r889/Screenshot_3400.png)

(https://s29.postimg.cc/6m43opv5z/45ac49c47c2299b909aab90b1782c8d1.gif)

They quickly come to the conclusion that if this is what the Russians are building now, there is nothing to worry about.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/7z8qhmr8p/Screenshot_3401.png)

...and then Counterintelligence reports that, apparently, somebody left the designs cabinet unlocked again, because the Russians are experimenting with triple turret designs that look remarkably like the German ones. Argh. Find the ****ing leak and plug it, now.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/aultohv8p/Screenshot_3402.png)

PLUG THE ****ING LEAK.

And as for you, Italy -

Italy. Look. We've just had a scrap. Don't make us come over there.

In fact, you know what? We need to send a message.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/w6tbm6f6x/Screenshot_3404.png)

Yes. By all means.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/6pax2kxgp/Screenshot_3405.png)

That is not a capital ship, you Dummköpfe. Still, no reason to overdo it. That's suitable payback for the V1.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/aabdzjre1/Screenshot_3406.png)

Oh, no, Russia. You are weak and we've outgrown you. And you insist on stealing from us. There will be no peace, until you're no longer a threat on our backdoor. All German officers now know this.

So, when asked by a reporter from the Morgenpost, Tirpitz says so. On record.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on April 23, 2017, 01:02:33 pm
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Triple turrets. In 1909. Oh my God, Germany can build a Scharnhorst right now.
(http://i.imgur.com/b1iKAQG.png)



Speaking of ships build for Brazil, Is the Agincourt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Agincourt_(1913)) possible at this point yet?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on April 23, 2017, 01:06:46 pm
Oh, no, Russia. You are weak and we've outgrown you. And you insist on stealing from us. There will be no peace, until you're no longer a threat on our backdoor. All German officers now know this.

So, when asked by a reporter from the Morgenpost, Tirpitz says so. On record.

(https://s24.postimg.org/7jnfh8snp/ebdafae8dba9d975ab10b4e3539764fa.jpg)

There are times, in an officer's career, where taking direction from the Commander in Chief in matters of policy and diplomacy is prudent and necessary.

This was not one of those times.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 23, 2017, 01:08:10 pm
Speaking of ships build for Brazil, Is the Agincourt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Agincourt_(1913)) possible at this point yet?

Not exactly. We're still missing superimposed B.

But 7 centreline double 12-inch turrets are very much possible-.  :yes:

EDIT: -If a bit ... underwhelming.

There are times, in an officer's career, where taking direction from the Commander in Chief in matters of policy and diplomacy is prudent and necessary.

This was not one of those times.

^^
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on April 24, 2017, 06:15:44 pm
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Ahahaha. AHAHAHA.

Triple turrets. In 1909. Oh my God, Germany can build a Scharnhorst right now.

I'm expecting you to deliver great ships that will crush any pasta eating cowards and sink every vodka transport they can find.:D


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That is not a capital ship, you Dummköpfe. Still, no reason to overdo it. That's suitable payback for the V1.

How did they manage to mix that up?
Actually I can totally imagine those guys sitting in some random italian bar directly at the harbour getting drunk with good wine financed by the german tax-payer cause their own courage back at home was a bit too much. Then after finally getting drunk enough to go forward with the plan they can't really tell any ships apart anymore and you have to be lucky they didn't find a german boat first.




Reading all of this got me motivated to play the game again as Germany but somehow the experience was underwhelming. Stupid Kaiser stopped every war after a few months so when I ended up fighting Japan these guys had conquerend my base in northeast asia within 3 months before my fleet got there. When it finally arrived, war ended...

Technology seemed to go go in a very similar way to your playthrough: Superimposed B and better guns weren't coming at all. Then things kinda went nuts and 1920 I laid down my first 28 knots, 17 inch Quality 1 in 3 triple turrets battlecruiser thing. From that point on ships just exploded left and right cause everyone was using lots of 16-18 inch guns all the while armor was just too heavy so that even the best BBs failed to resist 14 inch shells.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on April 25, 2017, 09:30:15 am
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Triple turrets. In 1909. Oh my God, Germany can build a Scharnhorst right now.
We want that ship, now!
(http://orig13.deviantart.net/574d/f/2014/149/9/0/dkm_scharnhorst_girl_by_jyuubaori-d7k71vt.jpg)

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on April 25, 2017, 05:13:06 pm
Damn, now I want pants which are also battleships.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 25, 2017, 05:19:47 pm
Mmmm, dem legs.  :eek2:  Goddammit, fast battleships, y u do dis to me. Unffff.

But, in all honesty, we can't settle for an OTL Sharnhorst. Too weak in everything that matters, except perhaps speed.


I'm expecting you to deliver great ships that will crush any pasta eating cowards and sink every vodka transport they can find.:D

^This. The Vaterland will not compromise. Am Deutschen Wesen....
Title: Once more, with feeling!
Post by: Enioch on April 30, 2017, 03:55:33 pm
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Balkan Wars - Ottoman prisoners.

"It was unavoidable. And yet we still chose war - against a nation that had not truly wronged us. Simply as a stepping stone towards the defeat of our true enemy. May God judge us mercifully.

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

The aftermath of Tirpitz's statement is ghastly for von Mecklenburg and Germany's foreign policy. An unspoken truth in diplomacy is that the inevitable may be delayed by not acknowledging it; Tirpitz's callous statement that Germany perceived Russia as a future adversary lit a fuze that von Mecklenburg wished would remain dormant for at least a few more years.

And yet, being the statesman that he was, Germany's Kanzler changed his course like a virtouoso leaps from one melody to the next. War was going to happen, that was no longer to be disputed. It would behoove Germany to have the initiative. Therefore, any opportunity to escalate had to be grasped; and any opportunity to keep Great Britain out of the fight had to be exploited.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/mzemd4hh1/Screenshot_3407.png)

(https://s24.postimg.cc/48cp2ymwl/Screenshot_3408.png)

In July and August, two major developments from the R & D front. Krupp submitted their new Cementit formulas for the Navy's consideration; and new hydraulic rammers were installed in all German capital ships.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/pw68r5col/Screenshot_3409.png)

Shortly afterwards, a series of dockworkers' strikes shook Great Britain. Von Mecklenburg took the opportunity; German Intelligence was urged to discreetly provide the workers with bribes and incentives to continue their strikes. Unrest simmered in Albion; and the construction of several modern battlecruisers was considerably delayed because of this. If Great Britain wished to directly assist the Russians, she would have to do it with her older ships; and First Lord of the Admiralty Fisher was adamant that these older ships ("too slow to run and too weak to fight," in his words) should be kept away from any critical conflict and gradually phased out.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/rchr9aflh/Screenshot_3410.png)

During the same month, the Kaiser sought to compromise with Russia - seek out a peaceful solution. The 1901 war was still fresh in His Majesty's memory; and he was not eager to strike against his Czar cousin yet again. But, for once, von Mecklenburg did not yield at all; not even superficially.

"Does Your Majesty seek to be the ruler of this country? Does Your Majesty seek to see perfidious Albion crushed? Then this needs to happen. It is unjust. It is, perhaps, dishonourable. But it is necessary for the good of the nation; and unless Russia is taken out of the picture for good, we shall always be as Bismarck feared: merely existing between ancient Powers that may decide to end us on a whim," he is reported to have said, in a meeting with Wilhelm.

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October: and German engineers begin installing new plotting tables in all command ships. Some problems are encountered with the older Victoria Louise-class armored cruisers; a memo is sent to Tirpitz that a more thorough reconstruction of these ships might be necessary.

Nevertheless, German engineering once again proves to be-

(https://s24.postimg.cc/dmn80hshh/Screenshot_3413.png)

(https://s23.postimg.cc/hnb6mxyyz/15inch.png)

(https://s10.postimg.cc/sssqx3pqx/Guuf_AV9.gif)

FOR ****'S SAKE, BRITS.

15-inchers? In 1909? What sort of fire have you lit under your Naval Bureau's asses, Fisher?

(https://s24.postimg.cc/7a82qnpf9/Screenshot_3414.png)

(https://s24.postimg.cc/rivgcdoqd/Screenshot_3415.png)

Heh. You've got Fisher. We've got fishes.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/xzmzds1e9/d74.jpg)

(https://s24.postimg.cc/59hj5tt9x/Screenshot_3417.png)

In November, the French arrive, asking to buy the license to the German analog fire control calculators. The Admiralität looks at their shipyards, where only Moltke and Hindenburg are being worked on. Then they look at their budget: they only have four and a half million Goldmarken set aside. Then they say, "Yes, by all means. Would you like that gift-wrapped?"

(https://s24.postimg.cc/d4wnydsad/Screenshot_3419.png)

Aaaaaand that's when the Kaiser stopped pouting and complaining about the inevitability of war and started seething and ranting about his treacherous cousin. Seriously, though, thanks Ivans. We couldn't have declared this war without your oh-so-kind (if slightly bumbling) attempts at industrial espionage.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/wo197qr1x/Screenshot_3420.png)

December 1909. With war imminent, Galster spends some time inspecting his cruiser fleet. What he sees makes his hair stand on end. The Victoria Louises (his own beloved Hertha among them) have not received a proper maintenance for years. New hardware has been bolted onto the ships willy-nilly, in some cases causing interference with older systems. This is unacceptable. He personally discusses this with Tirpitz, who comes down on the drydock superintendents like a ton of bricks; and authorises a four-month refurbishment program for the three veteran cruisers.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/g1joyny45/Screenshot_3421.png)

Thankfully, some good news too: the intensive training regimen which had begun a year ago was now bearing fruit. With a good ratio of veteran sailors and new recruits, the German crews were now disciplined, well-drilled and excellent gunners.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/ep1zws0ol/Screenshot_3423.png)

Perfect. 38k-ton ships by next December it is.

(https://s24.postimg.cc/ppx51ssxh/Screenshot_3424.png)

And then, it all comes to a head when, shortly after the Neujahr celebrations, the Greek navy approaches the German shipyards with an order for what they called a 'pocket battlecruiser' - a capital ship that could tip the balance in the Aegean against the Ottomans. The Germans respond with a scaled-down version of the Moltke-class. The Greeks immediately offer a downpayment of three hunderd thousand gold pound sterling, generously donated by the Greek benefactor Georgios Averoff, after whom the ship was eventually named. The Averoff would completely and utterly dominate the Eastern Mediterranean for the upcoming years.

That said, this was the last straw for the Russians. The Balkans were, in their mind, their playground; and the German interference in the balance of power there was unacceptable. On the 12th of February, the Russian embassy in Berlin started burning their documents; on the morning of the 13th, an ultimatum was presented to von Mecklenburg.

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Time to secure the eastern front, once and for all.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on April 30, 2017, 04:03:29 pm
And, since I mentioned her, here's the golden apple, the cause of all this, "Lucky Uncle George" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_cruiser_Georgios_Averof) herself. She recently was moved from her berth in Faliro to the docks of Scaramanga, to be refurbished.

Ain't she a beauty?

(https://s14.postimg.org/6l6xmov2p/kar9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on May 02, 2017, 09:40:57 am
Silly russia is going to get another spanking.

So what exactly causes tensions to rise and fall? I noticed Italy went from yellow to dark green and then back up to yellow again when war with russia was declared.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 02, 2017, 10:11:40 am
So what exactly causes tensions to rise and fall? I noticed Italy went from yellow to dark green and then back up to yellow again when war with russia was declared.

Tensions have a small chance of rising or falling on their own each turn. In the case of Italy, they fell on their own from yellow to green; and then they spiked again because I sold weapons to the Balkans. If Austro-Hungary was in the game, tensions would spike with them as well.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 03, 2017, 11:32:31 pm
Here's to crushing ol' Czar Nicholas the Incompetent, and hopefully you won't be sending any revolutionaries in to end the war sooner.  That would be ill-advised after the chaos in Italy. :P
Title: Bornholm revisited
Post by: Enioch on May 07, 2017, 04:21:32 pm
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The day after the declaration of war, Moltke is commissioned into the German navy. She still needs to go through her shakedown cruise before being deployed to the Baltic, but now there are four active-duty Schlachtkreuzer flying the Schwartz-Weiss-Rot.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/5d6r7ztsp/Screenshot_3434.png)

(https://s11.postimg.cc/gx2hq4mn7/This_season_is_great_89b3695ea28d77a43f3862051b.jpg)

AHAHA. Torpedo Protection II. In 1910. **** you, fishes, our ships have beer bellies.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/6i0tddg9l/Screenshot_3436.png)

Most importantly, the Russians are not blockaded. Unlike the Italians had been. Which means that, for the first weeks after the declaration of war, they still try to slip merchant traffic through the Baltic. This proves to be a very poor decision. The German submariners have been hammered into daredevil veterans by trying to sneak into Italian harbors; now they are faced with fat, unescorted freighters. It's a massacre.

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The Russians, on the other hand, have no submarine force to speak of.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/55j4bhiu1/Screenshot_3438.png)

In an attempt to further drive the point home, the Germans mobilise their cruiser and Schlachtkreuzer fleet in the northern Baltic, to hunt down more Russian shipping. The Russians sortie to meet them with the near-entirety of their battle-line.

The two fleets meet off the coast of Bornholm, in an eerie repeat of their past conflict.

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Germany's battleships are still in the Mediterranean; this will be a test for the battlecruisers. The Von der Tann, Goeben and Seydlitz are the core of the raiding force, escorted by the light cruisers Hamburg, Bremen and Medusa and seven Zerstörer. Büchsel has been recalled from the Mediterranean to command the battlecruiser force; Galster is still supervising the reconstruction of the heavy cruisers and has been placed in temporary command of the submarine forces. He will miss this battle.

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The time is 07:00 in the morning of the 23rd of March. The German fleet is sailing north, near Bornholm.

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For two long hours, the morning mist limits visibility. The Germans think that Intelligence might be wrong, and that the Russians may not contest their raid. They are proven wrong at 09:31, when the Bremen and Hamburg make contact.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/a9adzoty1/Screenshot_3442.png)

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It's a Russian cruiser line, and they've brought some of their heavy hitters. Three armored cruisers, of the Rossyia and Bogatyr class; as well as two light scouting cruisers. The Bogatyrs would not have been a problem for the Hertha and her sisters; but the lightly armored German cruisers present might have some serious problems with them. More importantly, however, the Bogatyrs can only reach 22 knots. The German Schlachtkreuzer can reach 25.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/t4aq3ujdl/Screenshot_3444.png)

Büchsel closes in with his battle-line, as the light cruisers retrat. At 09:56, Seydlitz takes the Rossiya under fire; and scores a hit amidships. Büchsel remembers the old war and how the German gunners had laboured to score a single hit on the Russians. How things have changed!

His lookouts also spot smoke to the north-east. The Russian battle-line is closing.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/51tw8z2qh/Screenshot_3445.png)

Unfortunately, they arrive too late. It only takes half an hour for the German Schlachtkreuzer to prove their worth against their cruiser opponents. By 10:24, the Rossyia is a floating wreck, the Bogatyrs are running in disarray and the German ships are boring in toward the Russian forces at flank.

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This...confuses the Russians. They have five pre-dreads on station, to match the three German capitals: four Pervenets- and one Imperator Pavel-class. As the German battle-line closes, the Russians turn and run, firing over their shoulder.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/hvry2bg61/Screenshot_3447.png)

Their first shells (from 6- and 7-inch secondaries) strike the Goeben at around eight thousand yards. The German Schlachtkreuzer shrugs the Russian fire off and continues her charge.

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Then, at around five thousand yards, the German ships turn to starboard and present their broadsides. Twenty-four 11-inchers speak in near-unison.

And Goeben, in particular, reaps a bloody toll from the Pervenets she has taken under fire. In two minutes, she scores five hits with her main battery, hits that rip through the Russian's belt and smash her superstructure to bits.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/8qjl8gcrd/Screenshot_3449.png)

In the following ten minutes, the battle devolves to absolute chaos. This is not a civilised long-range duel; this is Büchsel taking his Schlachtkreuzer into the Schlacht itself, in a no-holds-barred brawl. The escorting destroyer S13 gets mauled by Russian secondaries as she seeks to lay smoke for her wards...

(https://s18.postimg.cc/dqh1geie1/Screenshot_3450.png)

...the flagship, Seydlitz receives several waterline hits that flood several underwater compartments and drop her speed to 22 knots; on the flipside, she has scored more than twenty main battery hits on her target...

(https://s18.postimg.cc/6brpo0wih/Screenshot_3451.png)

...Goeben continues not giving a flying **** as she wades in after her Pervenets, scoring twenty six hits on her, while bouncing heavy and medium shells off her own belt and decks...

(https://s18.postimg.cc/60a9b9g2h/Screenshot_3452.png)

...and the Von der Tann makes it through without a scratch, but having scored a respectable seven hits on her own target.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/8vrxvv9g9/Screenshot_3453.png)

The German battle-line closes in from the east; and the Russians scramble to disengage. Their own line of battle is...disorganised to say the least. This lasts for a gruelling two hours.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/88t16cck9/Screenshot_3455.png)

By 12:00, the forward turrets of Goeben...

(https://s18.postimg.cc/4qh19ybo9/Screenshot_3456.png)

...and Seydlitz are silent. The Germans have expended their magazines.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/e0t5dhme1/Screenshot_3458.png)

And both fleets have lost any semblance of order. They both fall back, to regroup; light cruisers and destroyers patrol the no-man's-sea between them. As the smoke clears, Büchsel identifies a smoking, sinking wreck between the two forces: it's Goeben's Pervenets, listing heavily, her engines dead. The Germans have scored their first kill.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/bm19t2655/Screenshot_3460.png)

The fleets close back in. To the east, the sharp boom of the German cruiser 6-inchers cuts through the wind, as they engage the Russian cruiser Flora.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/5p1zpzee1/Screenshot_3463.png)

It takes them about ten minutes to put her to the bottom.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/60eup05g9/Screenshot_3462.png)

Goeben wades into battle again, taking fire for the flagship. Her belt laughs at the Russian shells; but her rear starboard turret jams in its bearings.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/ovf6t5uvt/Screenshot_3464.png)

It doesn't matter. She leads the charge, passing less than five hundred yards away from a second, foundering Pervenets and raking her with secondary fire. Her main guns turn to engage the Pavel and a third Pervenets; Von der Tann engages the nearby battlewagon and triple-taps her with her 11-inchers, just to make sure.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/fc5hzp7dl/Screenshot_3465.png)

The order is: 'pursue'! And the German Schlachtkreuzer do so. Seydlitz and Von der Tann focus their fire on the Pavel; Goeben seeks fresh meat and slams two 11-inch shells into the belt of a third Pervenets.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/9p95284ux/Screenshot_3466.png)

And another two hits from Goeben. And another three hits from Seydlitz.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/7lypuk521/Screenshot_3467.png)

13:30: three Pervenets-class battleships have now been sunk. the Pavel is manoeuvering desperately toward the west, but the Schlachtkreuzer are on her tail.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/jsxuydlll/Screenshot_3471.png)

And by 14:45, the remaining two Russian battleships are in full retreat toward the north. Both are spotted; both are under fire. Goeben is hot on the heels of the fourth and final Pervenets, but is ordered to break off pursuit and focus on finishing off the Pavel.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/4znsrd389/Screenshot_3473.png)

By now, she's taken heavy superstructure damage and is flooding slightly. She has only been hit six times by heavy-caliber guns, despite being in the thick of it; but she has soaked many 6- and 7-inch secondary hits. It's a miracle she's not burning. More importantly, she has scored more than sixty confirmed main bettery hits: her gunners are ecstatic by her performance.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/tu7alfo2h/Screenshot_3474.png)

The Von der Tann, on the other hand, seems blessed. She has taken minimal damage, all her turrets are operational and she has only been hit by three six-inch and three four-inch shells from Russian cruisers and destroyers. In return, she has scored nearly fourty hits on enemy ships with her main guns.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/9cmc9sbyx/Screenshot_3476.png)

As for Seydlitz, she has done Büchsel proud. Sixty seven confirmed hits, while only taking five heavy shells in return; her waterline has been breached but flooding is under control and her superstructure still stands proud and relatively undamaged. Perhaps more importantly, three out of her four magazines are empty. She only has 14 AP shells left, in her starboard wing turret.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/5uacdeb2x/Screenshot_3477.png)

No, Pavel. You will not escape.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/5wu808eqh/Screenshot_3479.png)

16:28. Far to the east of the main battle-line, the Medusa scores a hit on the Pamyat Merkuriya. The shell penetrates the protected cruiser's magazines; she goes up in an apocalyptic fireball, which spells the doom of the Russian fleet.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/6owvzfixl/Screenshot_3481.png)

Seydlitz empties her last magazine. Goeben, however, will not give up her quarry.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/6q6tsukrd/Screenshot_3482.png)

And then, at 17:26, the Von der Tann's luck runs out. The Pavel launches an underwater torpedo,which buries itself into the German Schlachtkreuzer's side. Three out of her six boilers are immediately flooded; her engines sputter and nearly die. She can barely do 12 knots; and is flooding.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/ex3ey607t/Screenshot_3483.png)

But the Pavel is finished. The S19 rushes in, under her secondaries, and launches a torpedo at fifteen hundred yards. The Russian giant shudders; and dies.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/e8ukf81i1/Screenshot_3484.png)

Perhaps more importantly, she is denied her kill. Germans know how much torpedoes can hurt; and even though the Von der Tann has no torpedo belt, she is big and heavily compartmentalised. By 18:00, her damcon crews have stopped the flooding.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/6xz233l3t/Screenshot_3488.png)

Night has fallen. The German fleet turns to port; the Von der Tann under heavy escort.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/b9nns3s0p/Screenshot_3490.png)

The mood is buoyant. Four battleships. Four. And only a destroyer lost, in the first chaotic moments of the fight.

(https://s18.postimg.cc/gav1tgzh5/Screenshot_3492.png)

(https://s18.postimg.cc/uipbvv1jt/Screenshot_3493.png)

Lang Lebe unsere Flotte!

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on May 07, 2017, 04:33:36 pm
Aw crap how the **** did we get blockaded
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 07, 2017, 05:59:35 pm
The near-entirety of the battleline is in the Mediterranean or, in the case of the heavy cruisers, in drydock. All we have in the home waters are the battlecruisers. Of those, one is on her shakedown cruise, one is in drydock for the next three months because she was shot to hell and back; and the other two are 48k tons between them.

The Russians still have a battleship and a couple of BCs in active service. But don't worry. That's something ze Germans will address shortly.  :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on May 08, 2017, 08:26:40 am
The death of the pervert class. An absolute slaughter. Gotta give props to the russians though, at least they give proper battle. Unlike a certain pasta country.
Dying russian battleships scoring a hit with their single underwater torpedo tubes in their final moments seem to be an ungoing theme though.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 08, 2017, 09:00:15 am
Oh, yes, mad props to the Russians for having the guts to come out and fight ze Hochseeflotte. You can't fault their bravery and they went down swinging. And when the VdT was hit by the torp I got PTSD flashbacks to Freya. ****ing hell, it's like we learned nothing.  :nervous:

What I can't get over (and I expect the Russians are having problems digesting it too) is the hit ratios of some of the Schlachtkreuzer. I mean, the VdT scored a total of forty-odd hits by the end of the fight, for a hit ratio of around 4%. That's perfectly respectable by 1910 standards, especially for a ship with just central firing. And then, you get Seydlitz' and Goeben's 7% and 6% respectively, which is an added 50%-75% compared to their sister. And I'm like :wtf:   :confused:  It's not like any of the crews are veterans or elites and all three ships were sailing in one division, in line of battle.

Goeben and Seydlitz are just that awesome, I guess.  :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 08, 2017, 09:55:23 am
Schlachtkreuzer über alles!

(http://www.britishbattles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/SMS-Seydlitz-Claus-Bergen.jpg)

So um do the Russians have any ships left or have they just shot their wad in one go?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 08, 2017, 10:05:46 am
Oh, they still have ships. At least one battleship and two new battlecruisers. Inferior designs, but more than capable of ruining our day.
Title: Blockade Wars
Post by: Enioch on May 11, 2017, 12:25:47 pm
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The German Schlachtkreuzer Goeben, engaging Russian destroyers in the second battle of Bornholm (artist's depiction)

"Bornolm, glorious Bornholm. May God forgive us for what we did to those poor lads; but victory was sweet and our chests swelled, for we could now see the day the seas would be ours."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.

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After the crushing victory in Bornholm, the German navy retreated to its harbors. With Goeben beat to hell and back, the dockyards estimated at least three months of repairs before she could set sail again. The Admiralty decided that, during that time, the operations of the German fleet would be limited to raiding. Hopefully, with Moltke also finishing her shakedown cruise, it would be possible to push with four Schlachtkreuzer against whatever the Russians had left.

Meanwhile, with German ships steadfastly refusing to fight, the Russians established a flimsy blockade on German ports. The Germans shook their heeads condescendingly.

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Early March: and Victoria Louise finishes her reconstruction. Hertha and Vineta are only a few weeks away. The balance of power shifts, slightly, but not enough for von Tirpitz to authorise a blockade run.

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That said, the U-bootkommando was not idle. The U-79 on patrol identified the Russian minelayer Saratov and sank her in short order.

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And ten Russian freighters, encouraged to sail the Baltic and the North Sea under the 'cover' of the blockade were also sent to the bottom.

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Mid-April. The Russian fleet sails up to the the Finland border and offers battle. The Germans decline.

Politically, this is a mistake. The Kaiser comes down on the Admiralität like a ton of bricks, berating his Staff for their apparent lack of spine. They wanted a war to kick Russia in the teeth once and for all, despite his attempts to keep the peace; now they do not dare to face the enemy? This cannot continue.

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And it doesn't. With Hertha and Vineta almost ready, the German navy pushes out. The Russians quickly realise that a blockade is no longer tenable; their ships fall back to their own bases.

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(https://s21.postimg.cc/wn6fi3t3b/tanya_degurechaff_youjo_senki_drawn_by_yiran_k.png)

She's back.

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The cruisers start working. First, little Frauenlob pokes up to Finland and spots a Russian raider trying to sneak into German waters. The Vesta is quickly dispatched.

And then, the armored cruisers are finally enough to tip the scales. The Germans are now blockading the Russians and the noose draws tight.

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A small note. The German submarine fleet is, at this time, the largest in the world; and its performance during these early months of the war have cold sweat running down the necks of Admirals world-wide. Germany can almost match each coastal patrol vessel of the Brits with a sub of her own, which is insane; and she has more submarines than Russia has ASW ships. The only nation that hasn't pissed its pants and gone full "build escort ships" is France, smugly secure with her ally.

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A small note (and many thanks for the kind permission provided by the Admiralität to study their R & D archives). Something that is often overlooked is that it was during this time that the first designs for five- and six-turret Schlachtkreuzer were submitted by the R & D department. The future Zähringen-class battlecruisers can trace their birth to these early experimental designs.

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And, meanwhile, the Admiralität was experimenting with new doctrines. The Schlachtkreuzer had proven to be excellent line ships; but might they, perhaps, be used as scouts as well? Galster and Büchsel organise a few experimental runs. The results are surprisingly satisfying. The Schlachtkreuzer are actually faster than Hertha and her sisters and sailing together gimps their speed; but they also get to respond faster to spotted enemies and Germany gets to face enemy scouting parties with her heaviest hitters. It's definitely a step forward.

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The submarines keep up the good work, despite the blockade.

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The Russians, on the other hand... Well, we can call their performance sad. Somebody's started on the vodka, I suspect...

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Not so their raiders. Their cruisers dart in and out of German waters, seeking opportunistic targets all over the world. It won't help them, though.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/qa2zp9y4f/Screenshot_3520.png)

For, on the 1st of July, the German fleet sorties en masse, and sails deep into Russian waters, way past the Gulf of Riga. The Russian forces are caught with their pants down.

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Time to end this.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on May 11, 2017, 01:20:01 pm
I am interrupting this thread of awesome to point out something that just popped up on the youtubes: Extra Credits is doing another coop thing with Wargaming, and this time, they're covering the hunt for the Bismarck, which is one of the very few times actual battleships got to do what they were designed to do (well, in the first half of the story anyway).


Now bacl to your regularly scheduled alternate history.

BTW, Enioch, what's that last screenshot from?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 11, 2017, 01:27:01 pm
The Saga of Tanya the Evil.  Props to them for being quasi WW1 setting and using the Bayern.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 11, 2017, 01:34:08 pm
*Bismarck Awesomeness*

Literally just sat through it. I love these guys for their magnificent popularisation of history with no loss of quality (and respect them very much for their gutsy 'lies' / errata episodes after each series)

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BTW, Enioch, what's that last screenshot from?

The Saga of Tanya the Evil.  Props to them for being quasi WW1 setting and using the Bayern.

^This. Episode 7, for all it's worth. The attack on Norway analogue.

EDIT: I also need to fix the TOC and threadmark links at some point. I'm like six or seven posts behind now.  :nervous: :shaking:
Title: Damage Control
Post by: Enioch on May 15, 2017, 07:58:34 am
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The German Schlachtkreuzer force, off the coast of Riga

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1st of July, 1910, just after dawn. The German fleet has just passed the Gulf of Riga and is steaming at cruise speed towards the Finnish coast.

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And we do mean "the Fleet". The only ships absent here are the obsolescent Schwabens, on permanent patrol in the Med.

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The scouting force is comprised of the veteran armored cruisers Hertha, Victoria Louise, and Vineta, with their Zerstörer escort. Galster is in command of this task force, in what would prove to be the last time he led a heavy cruiser force to battle.

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Büchsel, once again, leads the Schlachtkreuzer. This time, they're all here. Seydlitz, Büchsel's flagship, is leading the line of battle, followed by her sister-ship, Moltke; and, following them is Von der Tann and her bloodthirsty sister.

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06:01: Hertha spots the enemy - and holy crap that's a lot of funnels spewing smoke. Leading the enemy force is a Rossiya with her destroyer escort; then a gaggle of what seems to be light cruisers and destroyers; and, bringing up the rear, are two capital ships. Two fast capitals.

Hertha brings her force around. These are not old battleships; these are the pride of the Russian navy. The Izmail and the Pobeda, the Czar's pride and joy. Built in secrecy, very little is known about them. Not even their basic designs. Hertha runs, bringing her scouts back into the safety of the German Schlachtkreuzer guns; and her lookouts strain their eyes to make out the enemy silhouettes in the morning light.

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What. The. ****.

Russia, what are you doing.

Russia, stahp.

This is not a battlecruiser. This is a fat battleship, with a couple of extra boilers strapped onto it. Galster doesn't believe his lookouts when the enemy ship is described to him - he actually climbs Hertha's mast and has a look on his own. The Russian is closing fast, at 26 knots, but she only has four 12-inchers.

In God's name, she's got half the broadside of a single German Schlachtkreuzer. And if her sister is anything like her...

...You know what? Screw this ****.

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The German battle-line just charges forward - and they stop for nothing. They pass less than five thousand yards to the east of the Russian vanguard, pouring 11-inch fire into the Rossiya; and then the German Schlachtkreuzer slot next to the Russian pair of battlecruisers, while the latter were trying to turn around to disengage.

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The Pobeda fires first, scoring a hit that ricochets off Moltke's conning tower armor; and then Moltke returns the favour, burying an 11-inch shell into the Izmail's belt.

The Germans also get their first good look at the Pobeda, as she emerges from the Izmail's smoke trail.

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May God have mercy on these brave men, for their ship designers certainly didn't. And Büchsel doesn't intend to show them any either...

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The Germans put accurate fire into the Russian capitals. At 07:16, the Russians manage to strike back, with a waterline hit against Seydlitz. The German damcon crews laugh; and immediately contain the flooding.

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Meanwhile, Galster and his darlings are harrying the Rossiya. It's risky to push into her destroyers (especially since the heavy cruisers have no torpedo protection) and, therefore, the Germans engage from long range.

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Goeben drills an 11-inch shell into the Pobeda; the Russian fires back at Seydlitz. This time, the shell penetrates her superstructure; and another shakes the ship as it explodes under the waterline armor. No damage. Krupp Stahl über alles, cyka blyat.

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The Russian formation falls apart. The Germans have blocked their escape towards the north and east; and Hertha and the other heavy cruisers are coming up from the south. Izmail runs towards the west, while Pobeda turns to engage the German cruisers.

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She's not allowed to. The Germans ignore the fleeing Izmail and go after the Pobeda. Seydlitz interposes herself between the Russian and Hertha and takes a penetrating hit on her foredeck.

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In return, she pounds the Russian's fore turret with 11-inch shells until it jams.

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And then, at under 5000 yards, she puts another shell into her engines. The Pobeda...well, she dies, with very little fuss.

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The Izmail tries to take advantage of the gap that opened towards the east. Büchsel will have none of that and turns to pursue.

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Goddammit, Rossiya, just die. (Yes, I realise the irony).

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08:51: The German battle-line crosses the Izmail's aft T. Goeben, Von der Tann and Seydlitz pound her with their main batteries at around three thousand yards.

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08:56: She will not strike her colours. Hit her again. This time, her guns fall silent.

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08:58: Strike your gottverdammte colours, Russian. Hit her again.

Meanwhile, the heavy cruisers are running out of ammo and that bloody Rossiya is still running away.

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09:22. After half an hour of unrelenting pounding, with only her secondaries returning fire, the Izmail finally strikes her colours. It's clear she's sinking, but the Germans detach Zerstörer to pick up survivors and salute the wreck. This is the bravest and most desperate fight the Russians have put up so far and you can only respect them for it and pay homage.

Meanwhile...

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09:50: Get...

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10:05: ...back...

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10:41: ...here...

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10:52: ...you ****ing...

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11:16: ...HAHAHA!. Glorious victory. Seriously, Hertha, that took you girls much longer than expected.

Well, time to...

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11:58: Water fountains high over Moltke's starboard decks. The entire ship groans and lists. Her engineering is breached and water quenches the boilers. Her speed drops to 14 knots and her damcon teams cannot reach the flooded compartments. Dozens of men die, drowned or crushed beneath her decks. She drops out of formation and gradually comes to a halt, alarms blaring.

She's the newest Schlachtkreuzer in the German navy. This is her first fight. And it looks like it's going to be her last.

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(https://s17.postimg.cc/559mhmjrj/Seydlitz_badly_damaged.jpg)

The fleet cannot assist in her damcon efforts: they need to keep the circling Russian destroyers at bay. Her captain, Kapitän zur See Sammler dispatches divers and diverts all power to pumps to keep his stricken ship afloat. By 12:55, the flooding has been somewhat limited, but the ship has less than a foot of freeboard on the bow and water keeps seeping in.

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Ten more minutes of frantic work manage to bring the secondary pumps back online. Still, more water comes in that goes out. The Germans are desperate, but nothing seems to work.

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Motherf***, look at that HP bar. Keep in mind that this is all flotation damage. She has taken literally no superstructure hits.

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13:10. A team of exhausted divers, at the brink of hypothermia, claw their way up onto the ship.

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The main leak's been plugged. The pumps can handle the secondary flooding - barely. The Moltke will survive.

She'll live. And she makes her way back to German waters, at five knots.

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Well, apparently the Russians had brought their last Pervenets along - although it must have turned and ran as soon as our smoke crested the horizon. **** that, though. We got our prizes.

(https://s2.postimg.cc/x7asw4yh5/Screenshot_3561.png)

(https://s28.postimg.cc/aa0fw4dq5/tumblr_opcxbx_Gn_Hc1sxptq1o1_500.jpg)

Unsurprisingly, Goeben is MVP, with 27 hits on enemy ships and a 3.5% hit ratio (for Chrissakes, she was bringing up the rear! How the hell does she have more hits than the flagship?)

Kek @ Russian battlecruisers scoring a grand total of three main battery hits on out forces.

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You bet your bloody Lederhosen it was a major victory. They have nothing left, except that Pervenets, a fleet of obsolescent cruisers and four battlecruisers under construction that won't be ready for a year.

(And if they're anything like the ones we fought, the Admiralität is not particularly worried)

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Well. The Admiralität could use the increased budget for a few more months (Tirpitz shudders to imagine the extent of the budget cuts that will take place once peace is declared). Let's undermine the peace talks with a bit of saber-rattling, shall we?

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on May 15, 2017, 09:38:20 am
From the archives of the Reichsmarineamt:

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Preliminary report of the Admiralitätsrat in the Moltke matter

1. Background

During the Battle of Finland on July 1st of this year at around 1200, the Schlachtkreuzer Moltke was struck by a russian torpedo, assumed to be fired by one of the Zavetni-class destroyers then in contact with our fleet. The Torpedo hit just forward of Moltke's 'Gerda' turret, detonating on contact with the hull. Over the next 70 minutes, officers and crew of Moltke scrambled to contain the flooding, ultimately succeeding at around 1310. On the recommendation of her chief engineer, the ship then made best speed back towards Kiel, being admitted into drydock for extensive repairs immediately.

2. Analysis

Post-battle analysis of the damage sustained reveals major design flaws in the Moltke class. The placement of her 'G' turret and its below-deck infrastructure left little room for compartmentalization found in other areas of the ship, leading to extensive and hard to contain flooding once the armor was breached. It was only through the heroic efforts of Wachtmeister Adelbert Ellerbach and his work crew that the flooding was contained; It took a long, grueling underwater repair effort to seal the hull enough for the ship to be able to move again.

3. Recommendations

It is the opinion of this Rat that the efforts of His Majesty's naval engineers be directed towards two areas in particular. Firstly, the danger posed to our capital ships by Torpedoes cannot be discounted, and we absolutely must ensure that if our ships are struck by these weapons, such strikes cannot inflict fatal damage on their own. Secondly, we feel that efforts to move critical machinery towards the centerline of the ship should be stepped up.

For the Admiralitätsrat in the Moltke matter,
Michael Kohlhaas (Sekretär)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 15, 2017, 10:05:05 am
So is a Schlachtkreuzer eating a Parthian fish after battle is decided becoming some sort of bizarre tradition?

(http://www.battle-of-jutland.com/gallery/jutland-battleships/battleship-images/sms-seydlitz_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 15, 2017, 10:18:47 am
From the archives of the Reichsmarineamt:

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Preliminary report of the Admiralitätsrat in the Moltke matter

1. Background

During the Battle of Finland on July 1st of this year at around 1200, the Schlachtkreuzer Moltke was struck by a russian torpedo, assumed to be fired by one of the Zavetni-class destroyers then in contact with our fleet. The Torpedo hit just forward of Moltke's 'Gerda' turret, detonating on contact with the hull. Over the next 70 minutes, officers and crew of Moltke scrambled to contain the flooding, ultimately succeeding at around 1310. On the recommendation of her chief engineer, the ship then made best speed back towards Kiel, being admitted into drydock for extensive repairs immediately.

2. Analysis

Post-battle analysis of the damage sustained reveals major design flaws in the Moltke class. The placement of her 'G' turret and its below-deck infrastructure left little room for compartmentalization found in other areas of the ship, leading to extensive and hard to contain flooding once the armor was breached. It was only through the heroic efforts of Wachtmeister Adelbert Ellerbach and his work crew that the flooding was contained; It took a long, grueling underwater repair effort to seal the hull enough for the ship to be able to move again.

3. Recommendations

It is the opinion of this Rat that the efforts of His Majesty's naval engineers be directed towards two areas in particular. On one hand, the danger posed to our capital ships by Torpedoes cannot be discounted, and we absolutely must ensure that if our ships are struck by these weapons, such strikes cannot inflict fatal damage on their own. Secondly, we feel that efforts to move critical machinery towards the centerline of the ship should be stepped up.

For the Admiralitätsrat in the Moltke matter,
Michael Kohlhaas (Sekretär)

This is now canon, with all that it implies for future German capital ship design and production.

The_E, for this contribution you may commission a blurb with a theme/topic of your choosing for this universe and I will attempt to deliver. The same applies to any other forumite who chooses to contribute with an omake such as this.

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate feedback of this sort.  :yes:

So is a Schlachtkreuzer eating a Parthian fish after battle is decided becoming some sort of bizarre tradition?

Clearly. It's the German way of pointing at their chins and saying "here, give me your best shot", just to show how tough they are.  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on May 15, 2017, 10:50:06 am
Why... why didn't they just surrender? Those poor drunken russian sailors...

Clearly. It's the German way of pointing at their chins and saying "here, give me your best shot", just to show how tough they are.  :p
(http://i.imgur.com/5D9o54a.gif)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on May 15, 2017, 11:14:09 am
This is now canon, with all that it implies for future German capital ship design and production.

The_E, for this contribution you may commission a blurb with a theme/topic of your choosing for this universe and I will attempt to deliver. The same applies to any other forumite who chooses to contribute with an omake such as this.

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate feedback of this sort.  :yes:

Thank you, my pleasure. As for blurbs, I'll have to get back to you on that; I got exactly zero ideas right now that would actually fit.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 15, 2017, 02:53:59 pm
Hey, Enioch.  Is there any chance you can put up something like a "naval archives" thread tracking ship designs over time of Germany and its foes?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 15, 2017, 02:56:45 pm
Hmmm.

What do you have in mind, exactly? How do you envision this?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 16, 2017, 09:28:33 pm
Well, I really like the pictures you post up of the general overviews of vessels with tonnage, speed, armor, and armament, so I'd like to see those in a somewhat organized manner.  The nation status pics you have of fleets and tonnage are also fun to look at IMO.  Overall, was thinking a semi-RP layout, you have the years, the ship classes laid down, and a small blurb about the performance and history of the classes.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 17, 2017, 07:06:30 am
Basically the ONI Recognition Manual?

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 19, 2017, 11:04:38 am
I guess?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 19, 2017, 07:44:42 pm
It's possible, but it's also a HUGE amount of work. I'm not promising anything.

Also, some foreshadowing:



EDIT: Found the time to fix the table of contents. Should be fully updated now.
Title: Black Gold
Post by: Enioch on May 23, 2017, 01:08:22 pm
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Victory Parade in Berlin

We had started this war with the Long War in the Mediterranean still fresh in our minds. We were confident, but wary; apprehensive of the possibility for another dragged-out conflict, which would bleed us out and leave us defenseless when the inevitable time came to test our mettle against the British.

My faith in our Navy and Army, however, proved to be well-founded. The sea battles of Bornholm and Finland and the horrible defeats inflicted upon the Russian forces along the eastern front made it clear to the world that Russia was in no position to threaten our eastern borders. Furthermore, our decisive naval victories established our complete dominance over the Baltic. With the Russian fleet all but destroyed, the Baltic became a German lake.

When the August Peace was signed, Germany had completely and utterly established its dominance in north-eastern Europe; and with France still firmly on our side, in the Kerneuropa, it was obvious that no European crisis could threaten the unified front we presented to the world.

With their options now severely limited, the British took what action they could to undermine us - and thus the Far Eastern Front was opened..

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

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The month-long derailment of the peace negotiations proves to be worth it. The increased budget makes more resources available to the R & D bureau; and they, in turn, submit new designs for small-tube boilers. German ships could now make steam faster and reach higher pressures!

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In addition, new hydraulic rivet hammers were introduced to the shipyards, massively improving work speed as well as the quality of the finalised hulls.

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And better fuzes were tested and introduced - German shells now operated with delay fuzes. This provided a significant improvement in the effectiveness of AP shells, in particular, as they now detonated reliably after penetrating enemy armor.

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Russians, for God's sake, you are blockaded. And German subs are still sinking more ships than your subs do.

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Hrm. Well, in all fairness, their raiders are performing well. Then again...

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Um Gottes Willen, Hertha. How can you still be so awesome? Don't you know your time is past?

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Also, while the war is still, officially, ongoing, Blohm & Voss are given a significant tax cut in exchange for them funding a considerable expansion of the Kaiserliche Werfte in Kiel. 39,000-ton ships will be a possibility before the end of the year.

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By the end of July, the Russians plead for peace, again. Their army has collapsed and is in full retreat, pursued by General Hindenburg's army. Their Navy is non-existent. They are blockaded; and internal strife rears its ugly head. The situation is untenable for them.

Von Mecklenburg weighs the pros and cons; and despite Tirpitz's assurances that the Navy could, theoretically, exact better terms if hostilities continue, he chooses to grant the Russians peace. Further exhausting German resources, at this point, with the enemy so throughly beaten would be a mistake. Germany needs to be preparing for the inevitable clash with the Brits, not waste her time with her unruly eastern neighbor.

Also - von Mecklenburg's contacts in the Far East are reporting a worrying degree of English diplomatic overtures towards Japan. This is a new front, that needs to be factored in and dealt with.

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Peace is formalised on the 20th of August, 1910. War has lasted for a relatively short six months. Once again, von Mecklenburg does not ask for any territorial concessions from Russia - but he cements, beyond any question, the German industrialists' control over the mineral wealth of Siberia (gaining him massive support among the industry leaders in Germany) and also secures extensive war reparations from beaten Russia.

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The Naval budget is reduced in peacetime, but war reparations still mean that the Admiralität still has more than two million Goldmarken to play with monthly. It is decided to lay down a new class of Zerstörer, to complement the new battle-line.

The new V3-class are 900-ton ships, with three centreline 4-inch rifles and three single torpedo launchers. They can reach 33 knots - they are the fastest such craft in the world, if lighter armed than their French and British counterparts.

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A small downpayment to various shipbuilding firms; and seven keels are laid down in yards all over Germany.

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September - and France approaches the Admiralty with some of their new pump designs. The Admirals just barely manage to not drool at the idea of getting their hands on them. However, the fact is that there are no funds available at this time. With great regret, the French proposal has to be turned down.

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****.

Overnight, stock markets all over the world buck like wild horses. The Brits have struck black gold in Sierra Leone - massive reserves of the stuff, enough to fuel their entire fleet and then some. Investors trip over themselves to get a slice of the pie.

In short: the Brits have 15-inch guns, almost double the German naval budget and a massive colonial source of oil.

****.

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Well, at least the new Imperial docks are complete. This will, hopefully, allow the construction of ships that can somehow deal with the British threat. And on that note...

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...on the 18th of October, the Schlachtkreuzer SMS Hindenburg is formally commissioned into the Kaiserliche Marine. She is the largest warship afloat, in the world. Her sisters are delayed (the reduced, after-war budget has done them no favours) but they are coming.

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Unsurprisingly, she atracts attention. A British agent is identified by Counter-Intelligence, covertly attempting to acquire copies of the ship's blueprints. He is discreetly expelled from German territory, after a few uncomfortable hours in the hands of German interrogators. Germany raises no diplomatic stink; surprisingly, the Kaiser also remains silent on the matter. After long discussions woth von Mecklenburg, the two men had finally finalised their plan to deal with Britain; and Wilhelm is quite happy to 'stall and outsmart' his perceived foes. The notes of von Mecklenburg and the Kaiser's own writings seem to indicate that Wilhelm greatly enjoyed what he called the 'spying game' ('Spionspiel'). Again, surprisingly, he showed some aptitude in it.

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Meanwhile, the Admiralty also finalises their designs for a new class of light cruisers. The serving Medusas are serviceable, but they were built on the old style, of broadside, 'wing' turrets, and following the protected cruiser scheme. The new Arconas are 6.3k-ton ships, with a sloped deck armor scheme, a 2.5-inch belt and, more importantly, a fully-centreline broadside of six 6-inchers. They were meant to serve as fleet scouts, raider interceptors and destroyer-killers, with their 29-knot top speed; but they were unsuited to being raiders themselves, because of their relatively limited range and their fragility.

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Aiming for 42k-ton ships by next Christmas, the Admiralität pours more funds into its docks. Hopefully this is the way to counter the Brits. Hopefully...

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And then the news hit. More oil for the Brits. The Canadian West Coast is brimming with it. British engineers and geologists flock there, to map out the oil fields and lay down the foundation for what may very well turn out to be the largest oil reserve in the Americas.

The Admiralität is, understandably, morose. It would be, theoretically, possible to mount an attack on Sierra Leone, from nearby Kamerun, with sufficient fleet support, and thus deprive the Brits of their one major source of oil. But now the Brits have alternatives - and they control the vast majority of the world-wide oil market.

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Wait.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

Borneo has oil. Everybody knows this. And Germany has several colonial gunships stationed in the Pacific islands and Polynesia. Frantic telegraph messages are dispatched; avisos carry the urgent, so very urgent orders to the Far Eastern Squadron commanders.

Get to Borneo. In God's name, SECURE BORNEO.

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Too late. Far, far too late. Forewarned by the British, and with their support, a Japanese battleship force is already on station.

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Germany seethes.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Commander Zane on May 23, 2017, 02:13:39 pm
The Arcona pretty interesting to see, what does the superstructure design reflect in being drawn that way?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 23, 2017, 03:04:28 pm
The Arcona pretty interesting to see, what does the superstructure design reflect in being drawn that way?

A rounder and more shapely ass?  :p

(https://s7.postimg.org/xb2lra6hn/Arcona1.jpg)

(Yeah, yeah, OK, that's a protected cruiser, and the Arcona is a light cruiser, but the game can be stupid occasionally).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on May 23, 2017, 04:12:51 pm
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Peace is formalised on the 20th of August, 1910. War has lasted for a relatively short six months. Once again, von Mecklenburg does not ask for any territorial concessions from Russia - but he cements, beyond any question, the German industrialists' control over the mineral wealth of Siberia (gaining him massive support among the industry leaders in Germany) and also secures extensive war reparations from beaten Russia.

This I think is a mistake. I'm not sure how well the game simulates the actual yield of the minerals coming from Siberia, but I'd expect the efficiency of that operation to be very low, and the quality of materials almost rejectable.

Then again, the Red Revolution has not yet sweeped through Russia in this time line, and the Czar is still in control. The yield rates dropped quite drastically immediately after communism rose into the power.

Once again Germany fails to secure its Northest allies, Finland and the Baltic States :lol:

Meanwhile in Sweden during the battle of Bornholm:
Swede #1: "Vad är det hemskt larmet ut då?"
Swede #2: "De är de tyskarna och ryskarna i slaget ut där på sjö!"
Swede #1: "Vad  tror du, vem ska vin det slaget?"
Swede #2: "Svårt att säga. Tyskarna är god i tekniket, men ryskarna är inte rädd för nederlager"
Swede #1: "Jå, de är sant. Ska vi sätta en lägereld och lyssna mer på det?"
[At this point, Swedish mainland has not seen war for like 200 years]

Meanwhile in Finland during the battle of Finland:
Finns: "Viekää Ahvenanmaa mennessänne!" :D :D

Historically speaking, Finland and Sweden wanted to resolve who does the island of Åland belong to in more civilized fashion. The task was given to the League of Nations, who ruled it belongs to Finland. Because, you know, even if the island clearly is more on the Swedish side and the population speaks Swedish, it still clearly belongs to Finland. The current nowadays sentiment (used often humoristically) stated above is because of the rather extensive tax breaks that region enjoys, yet it is not easily possible to buy any land from the island by Finns. The funny thing is that today, neither Finland or Sweden would particularly like to have Åland. This island still has to belong to either one because the alternative is that it belongs to Russia, which neither Nordic country wants.

Meanwhile, in historical 1910, Finland is still mostly an agrarian society at this point with partial ground slavery still in place. There are tons of other dumb regulations which modern people find very hard to relate to, such as all encompassing curfew after 22 o'clock at night and total prohibition of alcohol (which is the reason for Finnish alcohol culture that finally started to break up around 2008 due to cheap good quality beer coming from Central Europe). A grassroots Jääkäriliike (Jäger movement) is boiling up and sending people to be trained in German Jäger battalions in anticipation of the upcoming Red vs White civil war. The biggest motivation for this movement was the increased popularity of communism in Russia. In consequence of the Russian revolution, Finland acquired its independence in 1917, and the trained soldiers provided by the Jäger movement (White side) were instrumental in that.

Unfortunately I can't particularly relate to the German point of view. I find it a bit dull.

EDIT: Perhaps I should clarify the last sentence. I didn't mean I'm not interested to see this saga to the end from German side. What I meant is that I personally find it hard to write anything from the German point of view. Russian on the other hand is far easier, because a lot more imaginative and almost unimaginable things can and WILL happen... :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 23, 2017, 05:07:11 pm
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Peace is formalised on the 20th of August, 1910. War has lasted for a relatively short six months. Once again, von Mecklenburg does not ask for any territorial concessions from Russia - but he cements, beyond any question, the German industrialists' control over the mineral wealth of Siberia (gaining him massive support among the industry leaders in Germany) and also secures extensive war reparations from beaten Russia.

This I think is a mistake. I'm not sure how well the game simulates the actual yield of the minerals coming from Siberia, but I'd expect the efficiency of that operation to be very low, and the quality of materials almost rejectable.

Then again, the Red Revolution has not yet sweeped through Russia in this time line, and the Czar is still in control. The yield rates dropped quite drastically immediately after communism rose into the power.


I cannot give you the exact numbers. However, just to give you an idea, the relative boost provided to the German economy through these war reparations is the equivalent of almost twice the income Hong Kong provides to the British at this point in time (Maybe 160% or so).

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Once again Germany fails to secure its Northest allies, Finland and the Baltic States :lol:

Unless you fight the Russians to the(ir) bitter end, you're not getting any of those. And, even then, you're only getting one before the Soviets scream bloody murder.

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Meanwhile in Sweden during the battle of Bornholm:
Swede #1: "Vad är det hemskt larmet ut då?"
Swede #2: "De är de tyskarna och ryskarna i slaget ut där på sjö!"
Swede #1: "Vad  tror du, vem ska vin det slaget?"
Swede #2: "Svårt att säga. Tyskarna är god i tekniket, men ryskarna är inte rädd för nederlager"
Swede #1: "Jå, de är sant. Ska vi sätta en lägereld och lyssna mer på det?"
[At this point, Swedish mainland has not seen war for like 200 years]

Meanwhile in Finland during the battle of Finland:
Finns: "Viekää Ahvenanmaa mennessänne!" :D :D

Historically speaking, Finland and Sweden wanted to resolve who does the island of Åland belong to in more civilized fashion. The task was given to the League of Nations, who ruled it belongs to Finland. Because, you know, even if the island clearly is more on the Swedish side and the population speaks Swedish, it still clearly belongs to Finland. The current nowadays sentiment (used often humoristically) stated above is because of the rather extensive tax breaks that region enjoys, yet it is not easily possible to buy any land from the island by Finns. The funny thing is that today, neither Finland or Sweden would particularly like to have Åland. This island still has to belong to either one because the alternative is that it belongs to Russia, which neither Nordic country wants.

Meanwhile, in historical 1910, Finland is still mostly an agrarian society at this point with partial ground slavery still in place. There are tons of other dumb regulations which modern people find very hard to relate to, such as all encompassing curfew after 22 o'clock at night and total prohibition of alcohol (which is the reason for Finnish alcohol culture that finally started to break up around 2008 due to cheap good quality beer coming from Central Europe). A grassroots Jääkäriliike (Jäger movement) is boiling up and sending people to be trained in German Jäger battalions in anticipation of the upcoming Red vs White civil war. The biggest motivation for this movement was the increased popularity of communism in Russia. In consequence of the Russian revolution, Finland acquired its independence in 1917, and the trained soldiers provided by the Jäger movement (White side) were instrumental in that.

Thanks for this. Small historical parentheses like this are always welcome.

Y'know what? I need to encourage stuff like this. Have a blurb. Same rules I gave to The_E (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=93265.msg1848232#msg1848232) apply.

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Unfortunately I can't particularly relate to the German point of view. I find it a bit dull.

EDIT: Perhaps I should clarify the last sentence. I didn't mean I'm not interested to see this saga to the end from German side. What I meant is that I personally find it hard to write anything from the German point of view. Russian on the other hand is far easier, because a lot more imaginative and almost unimaginable things can and WILL happen... :D

It's a good thing you clarified that, because I was trying to figure out ways to make this more exciting (and, sadly, failing).  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 24, 2017, 08:06:40 am
Personally, I enjoy the heck out of ze Kaiser Memes.  Watching strategic geopolitical maneuvers planned with the very best of Prussian Realpolitik tm get thrown out on its ear because Willie has no filter, never gets old.  Plus the inevitable climatic clash with the Royal Navy is waiting in the wings. :P

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on May 28, 2017, 08:32:12 am
I think the ze Kaiser isn't bombastic enough for his namesake, he actually seems quite watered down!

Ze Kaiser hasn't been meddling much with ship design unlike certain King Gustav of Sweden, when he insisted the top deck to be fitted with cannons too large to the ship frame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)). The good king was an artillery man to the heart, and would take no for an answer. The subsequent sinking of the ship in the coastal waters of Stockholm still in the sight of the port was probably embarrassing to witness. The inquiry of the sinking found nobody to blame of the sinking. A group of Finnish student managed a fantastic student prank with the ship when it was lifted in the 1960s, but that's another story.

Meanwhile his contemporary's, Czar Nikolai II's guard managed to kill a bunch of protesters to the front steps of the Winter Palace in 1905. The Czar was also guided more often than not by his wife and the monk Rasputin, and this Czar was one of the root causes of the bolshevik revolution in Russia.
Title: A Game of Shadows
Post by: Enioch on May 31, 2017, 02:44:31 pm
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- PART 4 -
Adventures in Asia

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"This is a personal insult which I feel and resent. For the work of my people to be stolen, for my repeated offers of friendship weighed and scrutinized with jealous, mistrustful eyes; this taxes my patience severely. I have said time after time that I am a friend of England, and your press --, at least, a considerable section of it -- bids the people of England refuse my proffered hand and insinuates that the other holds a dagger. How can I convince a nation against its will?

-Excerpt from Kaiser Wilhelm II's statement, published in the Daily Telegraph of 24th January 1911

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December 1910; Blohm & Voss re-open drydocks 4 and C in Wilhelmshaven and Kiel respectively. They can now accommodate ships of up to 40k tons; and works are already underway to further expand the military facilities.

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The good mood in the Admiralität does not last very long. In January, Counter-Intelligence report huge leaks from the R & D department, leaks that have Tirpitz come down like a ton of bricks on his archivists. The Brits now have the blueprints for our small tube boilers - and the bloody Japanese have our analog firing control computers.

The Kaiser explodes. His irate rants find their way to the press; and, in all honesty, von Mecklenburg does nothing to screen them. Realpolitik - His Imperial Majesty's government are very much aware that the final confrontation with the British block is coming. Perhaps the Japanese will need to be dealt with first - or perhaps von Mecklenburg will be able to manoeuver perfidious Albion into the war that Germany has been looking forward to for the past decade. In any case - we want to antagonise them.

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Some good news (thankfully) mark the end of the month: SMS Hindenburg returns from her shakedown cruise. The largest warship in the world is now in active service - and her sisters are building...

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Also, von Mecklenburg prepares for the worst. It's not clear whether the next scrap will be with the Brits or the Japanese; but in a joint action with Tirpitz, they submit the 1911 Naval Bill to the government. The motion
passes; and the naval budget gets a monthly 2 million Mark increase, to the jubilation of the Admiralität.

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This money is immediately channeled into getting the work on Derfflinger back on track. With Wittelsbach herself less than two months from completion, work on the Luetzow (frozen for over a year) will shortly also be continued.

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Yeeeees.

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THERE ARE NO BRAKES ON THE SUBRAPE TRAIN.

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After this development, Von Mecklenburg digs deep into his pockets yet again. Following the death of his first wife in 1908, he had remarried to Elisabeth zu Stolberg-Roßla, a woman thirty years his junior. They had spent their honeymoon in the Far East holdings of the German Empire and the Kanzler knew that, despite considerable efforts, the German base in Northern Korea was still quite small (especially now that the Japanese threat loomed). Von Mecklenburg generously donated the funds for an expansion of the Korean Naval Base and the construction of extensive submarine pens in the area; the Kaiser, not wishing to be outdone, also contributed a considerable sum.

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May; and the first V3-class torpeboboats leave the docks. Germany now has a modern small-craft squadron, capable of serving as a solid screen for any line of battle.

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(https://s4.postimg.cc/on60ixn99/Screenshot_3607.png)

Gottverdammt, Frenchies, but you are the best allies a Kanzler can hope for. Here's to a long friendship!

(https://s4.postimg.cc/3rjq7or25/Screenshot_3608.png)

June 1911; and the first war reparations from Russia come rolling in. Industry in Germany booms.

(https://s4.postimg.cc/kgl63lnnh/Screenshot_3609.png)

(https://s29.postimg.cc/ehhfzkazr/Youjo_Senki_Screenshot_0123.jpg)

Well, ****.

The news are surprising and (to all outside observers) grim. The alliance with France has expired; and the French make no official move to renew it, despite the pro-German policies of Prime Minister Caillaux. The British rejoice at what seems to be the death of Kerneuropa.

It's seemingly a hard blow for von Mecklenburg and his politics; and it is difficult not to interpret this as a French vote of no-confidence for von Mecklenburg's plans. Von Mecklenburg himself, though, remains optimistic; and he still enjoys the Kaiser's full backing. The future publication of the Kanzler's private document archive will show why:

France remains friendly to Germany. She will not be an ally in the upcoming war; therefore, French harbors will remain open and Great Britain's Grand Fleet will have no legal grounds to blockade them. With the French and Germans sharing borders, France can serve as a trading portal for Germany, greatly reducing the effectiveness of any Naval blockade, and allowing the flow of foodstuff and military supplies to her neighbour.

It is a masterstroke on behalf of von Mecklenburg - a masterstroke that will remain in the shadows for more than four decades.

(https://s4.postimg.cc/rmcx61wql/Screenshot_3611.png)

**** YOU.

Your ****ing King has an extended double bottom and an extended double chin, British pig.

(https://s4.postimg.cc/qmr7o36yl/Screenshot_3613.png)

(https://s4.postimg.cc/h3hiumjgd/Screenshot_3614.png)

AHAHAHA. DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND ÜBER ALLES

(https://s4.postimg.cc/7wz87ce7x/Screenshot_3615.png)

And then there were two.

(https://s4.postimg.cc/435ry6wvx/Screenshot_3617.png)

Meanwhile, Galster has not been idle. 10 new submarines have been laid down; all of the U-102 class. They are long-range, heavily armed boats, the best in the world; and they will serve as the backbone of the German Unterseeflotte for the wars to come.

(https://s4.postimg.cc/hy42gnrb1/Screenshot_3618.png)

Jesus Christ, Brits. Seriously?


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on May 31, 2017, 02:45:29 pm
A quick update, to get the keyboard singing again.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on May 31, 2017, 10:24:42 pm
Out of curiosity I've noticed in both the IJN and now the Kaiserliche Marine you seem to favor a battle cruiser heavy order of battle.  Is that a personal preference or are BCs more effective in RtW then they're historical performance would suggest?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on June 01, 2017, 01:10:41 am
From my understanding, given Enioch's tech advantage a lot of times, his battlecruisers are as well armed and armored as the enemy battleships.  That, and to a certain extent speed is armor, especially when the British have 15" naval rifles in the 1910's. :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on June 01, 2017, 02:35:58 am
From my understanding, given Enioch's tech advantage a lot of times, his battlecruisers are as well armed and armored as the enemy battleships.  That, and to a certain extent speed is armor, especially when the British have 15" naval rifles in the 1910's. :P

^^This, to some extent.
It's not so much the technology lead (although it clearly plays a role); it's more the size of the ships. The Wittelsbachs, for instance, are as big as some mid-to-lategame BB designs for the AI. I have made it a point to ALWAYS be enlarging my docks in ths play through, which means I can always build bigger than the other nations. And with more space and weight to play with, you can fit more armour and stuff.

The game has a strange auto-classification algorithm, that identifies what type your design corresponds to. The 25-knot speed of the capitals I have been building places them pretty squarely into the BC territory. BBs of this period would be around 21-22 knots.

However, as Sparda pointed out, like RL Germany, I'm sacrificing gun calibre, not protection. Most of my BCs are as well (or BETTER armoured) than what the Brits have in their BB line.

As for speed being arnour- eh. Kinda-sorta. 25 knots is relatively slow for BCs. At this point, a British-style BC of the Wittelbach's size would easily do 27 or more knots, especially with oil-fired boilers. But I've chosen to standardize ship speed, so that all my BCs can operate together. And given that, protection-wise, they are hybrid BBs, I can get away with it.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on June 01, 2017, 02:58:17 am
It accurately reflects the utter insanity that ship classification schemes are in real life.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Commander Zane on June 01, 2017, 05:16:31 am
It accurately reflects the utter insanity that ship classification schemes are in real life.
You should have seen the chaos in the English Kantai Collection communities over how to designate the new Kaibokan. From what I had read, they were apparently used like destroyer escorts, but built more like frigates, yet they were neither because they were a design nobody else really had. That's probably not right, but it was eventually too difficult to follow when the debate lasted an entire eight days and nobody is still happy.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mammothtank on June 01, 2017, 06:02:04 am
They should've done a tie breaker via violent tournament style Team Deathmatch.
Did I hear team- oh wait that was me...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on June 01, 2017, 01:16:45 pm
Quote
"This is a personal insult which I feel and resent. For the work of my people to be stolen, for my repeated offers of friendship weighed and scrutinized with jealous, mistrustful eyes; this taxes my patience severely. I have said time after time that I am a friend of England, and your press --, at least, a considerable section of it -- bids the people of England refuse my proffered hand and insinuates that the other holds a dagger. How can I convince a nation against its will?

-Excerpt from Kaiser Wilhelm II's statement, published in the Daily Telegraph of 24th January 1911

Wait, what? He seriously said that???  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Willy is actually starting to earn his namesake! There's some distance to Nikolai II to catch up, but it's getting there!

MIka is amused
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on June 01, 2017, 01:24:28 pm
Seriously, Mika? :p

Reality is stranger than fiction. Go read about the RL Daily Telegraph affair. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Telegraph_Affair)

More than half of the text I posted is a direct quote (with considerable changes to fit the game event)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Mika on June 01, 2017, 04:50:27 pm
Well, up to this point most what Willy has done is behind the curtains, at discussions between the diplomats, whose job is to filter the message. It is an entirely different thing of calling out the entire nation in press.  :lol: And, no, I didn't know about that incident - was never particularly interested in the events leading to WWI, where Willy seems to have been instrumental.

Can't deny that the guy had some cojones, but I still don't think it compares to some other questionable royalties if that remains his worst single blunder. Germany still had rather good people around ze Kaiser to soften the impact, where as the other countries were not as lucky.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on June 07, 2017, 06:09:23 am
the "Hello wrong animal" cracks me up each time

So while not direct related to the playthrough, it is somewhat relevant cool footage: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef5_1496690103
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on June 07, 2017, 06:27:28 am
the "Hello wrong animal" cracks me up each time

 :confused: I've missed the joke, sorry. What are you referencing here?

So while not direct related to the playthrough, it is somewhat relevant cool footage: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef5_1496690103

Ah, the S-H. What a beautiful grey block of a ship.

Kinda like the PzKpfw VI of the seas. Only older. And more crappy.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on June 07, 2017, 08:08:17 am
:confused: I've missed the joke, sorry. What are you referencing here?

(https://s15.postimg.org/vyjhf6znf/rud_k4.jpg)
It's your own joke  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on June 07, 2017, 08:15:30 am
Orite.

Whoops.  :nervous:
Title: Wir wollen uns'ren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederhaben
Post by: Enioch on July 01, 2017, 09:09:10 am
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"Gradually, it became clear to me that we would need to overcome one final hurdle before facing our most powerful enemy. True to her policy of centuries, Albion threw her allies at us. Her latest scheme was to open a new theatre of operations, in the Far East.

"I was familiar with the Japanese way of thinking. This would require great care and meticulous planning, perhaps more than any other opponent we had faced in the past."

-From the private writings of Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler 1902-1920.

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October begins with the opening of the new drydocks in Kiel and Tanga, followed by the launching of the new Blohm & Voss floating drydocks in November. Germany can now build ships up to 45k tons and maintain them. There are no funds for any new capitals, at this point in time, but when the time comes, the new generation of German capital ships will be true behemoths.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/i8mk6tdl3/Screenshot_3620.png)

In December, the French approach the Admiralität and ask to purchase licences for the lightweight sloped deck armor schemes the Germans are experimenting with. Tirpitz puts the proposal on ice. The French are, technically, no longer Germany's allies; and it's a good idea to keep some bait in reserve, to ensure their full co-operation in the inevitable coming war.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/r4xcar47b/Screenshot_3621.png)

(https://s21.postimg.cc/r67a46613/Screenshot_3622.png)

In January, R & D introduces new quality control procedures into all German shipbuilding facilities. Armor is now more consistent, and german steel is of higher quality.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/vtdc5xtdz/Screenshot_3623.png)

...And then immediately, Counter-intelligence reports possible breaches of security in R & D facilities. Tirpitz and Galster rage. No-one has time for this ****. It's obviously the ****ing Italians sneaking around on behalf of the British, ****ing Spaghetti-gobbling mother-****ers.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/ncdtv0op3/Screenshot_3624.png)

Blohm + Voss helps defuse the situation, when they sponsor a further expansion of the Wilhelmsaven docks.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/o36k0sr2f/Screenshot_3625.png)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/o9j1bp.jpg)

Oh God, yes, please. Now our capital ships can kick ass in all kinds of weather, with both large and small caliber guns.

No more flooded casemates!

(https://s21.postimg.cc/lahxuig3r/Screenshot_3626.png)

Well done, Frau Zelle. Let's see what the Russkies are building...

(https://s21.postimg.cc/7uux527lz/Screenshot_3627.png)

Oooooh, an OTL Dreadnought-type!

Well, it's slower than the Wittelsbachs, it's got less guns per broadside, it has a thinner belt and, holy ****, the conning tower has less armor than the belt. Nicky, stahp. Nicky, what R U doin?

The German analysts immediately come to the conclusion that no sane Russian admiral would ever seek to command such a ship. Any shot to the bridge or conning tower would turn them into charnel-houses.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/pyxxpp5af/Screenshot_3628.png)

Especially given the new explosives the Germans start producing. Estimates indicate that German shells now hit with comparable power to English shells coming from guns of 1-inch larger calibers. Who needs 13-inch guns, when 12-inchers are lighter and hit just as hard?

Germany does. Please, God, grant us larger guns

(https://s21.postimg.cc/cjax08wsn/Screenshot_3629.png)

April - and the Rheinland booms. Mecklenburg completes the tax reforms that he's been working on for the last three years and German industry responds magnificently. A windfall of tax revenue means that the Navy enjoys an increased budget.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/xhh2ybwnb/Screenshot_3630.png)

And the new quality control measures pay off, with lighter and tougher steel alloys being tested in the Yards.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/onq6h89on/Screenshot_3631.png)

This makes Tirpitz a very happy man. With the new materials, German naval engineers can start designing larger Torpedobootzerstoerer, with the same or better capabilities than their lighter cousins. A preliminary eleven-hundred ton design is submitted for consideration, nothing more than a hull for now. Yet Tirpitz, ever a closet fan of the light craft is intrigued.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/qtkhbqd53/Screenshot_3632.png)

(https://s21.postimg.cc/w69bpv11j/Screenshot_3633.png)

Especially when he learns of this new breakthrough. Eight thousand yards range? Yes, please.

He goes to congratulate the research personnel...

(http://i68.tinypic.com/11b7x2f.png)

...and finds out they've been basing everything on stolen Russian designs.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2im25uw.png)

What the ****. How can the Russians be ahead of us in anything, we've kicked their heads in twice and their economy is in shambles.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/9wvejb5l3/Screenshot_3635.png)

Case in point. Potential for 47k ships, going to 49k next October, thank you very much.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/wzqiw7wg7/Screenshot_3636.png)

Of course the Italians should be well-advised to remember who won the last war. And they should damn well keep their agents out of our R & D facilities.

The Kaiser speaks the truth and his words are inspired. No, we don't care that Italy is the one country which does not hate our guts.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/srvqngv0n/Screenshot_3637.png)

July 1912: With Derfflinger less than 5 months from completion and the two Arconas almost ready to be commissioned, R & D plops out a new pump design. Work on this project had started since the report of Marinesekretaer Michael Kohlhaas on the Moltke flooding. The new high-capacity pumps should greatly assist with similar situations in the future.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/7w9gc7ytj/Screenshot_3638.png)

And, with new pumps, Germany can also build new U-Boote. Eleven new boats are laid down in Kiel.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/y5uiv0kqv/Screenshot_3639.png)

(https://s21.postimg.cc/gtu69kr9j/Screenshot_3640.png)

****.

Well, welcome to the navy, Arcona and Undine. Shame about the performance issues. Still, 28 knots is nothing to sneeze at. Galster certainly hails their addition to his scouting forces with great pleasure - and future light cruisers will be better built.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/92dgb0n47/Screenshot_3641.png)

August 1912: and, shortly after the commissioning ceremony for the Undine, Tirpitz holds the opening speech in the annual gathering of the Flottenverein. He has spent weeks preparing for this, in collaboration with von Mecklenburg and the Kaiser.

His speech is short, and to the point: the Far Eastern theatre of operations can no longer be ignored. Germany has interests in the area, interests that are now threatened by the ambitions of Japan. Germany must be prepared to defend her holdings and the interests of her citizens in the Far East, and the Fleet stands ready to do so.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/szjdjz5zb/Screenshot_3872.png)

Then, the word is given. First, the five Schwaben-class battleships, still patrolling the Mediterranean, are recalled and scrapped, to release the funds for a new terrifying new class of warship (more on that to come).

Following that, Konteradmiral Maximilian von Spee is sent to take command of the East Asia squadron, based on Tsingtaou. He will be commanding a force of light cruisers, meant to patrol and safeguard the waters there.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/r90cihog7/Screenshot_3873.png)

YES. Semi-Armor-Piercing eats DDs for breakfast.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/e64pz7y87/Screenshot_3874.png)

...we were preparing. For war

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, YOU WARFH$#&(^gflasdrakkkkk...




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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 01, 2017, 09:09:40 am
I ATEN'T DEAD.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 01, 2017, 09:54:25 am
From a report filed for the attention of Captain Sir Mansfield George Smith-Cumming in his capacity of Director of the Secret Service Bureau:

Quote
Implications of advances in german shipbuilding capacities

[Salutations omitted]

Reports from our agents stationed in Hamburg, Kiel and Bremen have reached us on [date omitted]. They conclusively prove that the sustained expansion of german shipbuilding capacity and capability continues unabated; we estimate that the Imperial Navy could in theory lay down hulls in excess of 45000 tons. While our colleagues in Naval Intelligence and Economic Analysis concur that they are unlikely to do so any time soon (It is believed that the germans still haven't managed to come up with a design for a 14- or 15-inch gun in comparable quality to their existing 12-inch guns, and based on our estimates of the german economy, the funds to lay down a ship larger than their existing designs do not currently exist).
It is obvious to us that, in the absence of a raid by His Majesty's Navy on the shipyards, efforts should be directed towards finding a way to delay german research efforts or exploit known weaknesses in the german command structure.

(Handwritten note, scrawled in the margins, handwriting consistent with that of Captain Cumming: Inquire with Inglis about Alexandra's refit, maybe steer some german journalists to her?)

While it is perhaps soothing to know that no new monster ships are at this moment emerging from german slipways, there are economic considerations that are perhaps even more worrying than purely military concerns. German-flagged trade ships are already a common sight in harbours worldwide, and german-built vessels are today seen flying a multitude of other flags. The new shipyards are unlikely to remain idle for long, and once they start working for civilian interests, the increase in trade capacity will have cumulative effects, eventually displacing british trade companies from their established routes, with obvious effects on tax income here at home.

Our recommendations are therefore....

[Rest of the memo unreadable due to damage sustained in a fire in SSB HQ in 1917]

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 01, 2017, 09:55:50 am
also yay best thread is alive again
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on July 01, 2017, 09:57:12 am
I can't wait to see the sort of behemoths you'll be building for your fight against the Sushis and their boatgirls.  Still only 12-inch guns and no oil though?  Disappointing.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 01, 2017, 10:09:23 am

(Handwritten note, scrawled in the margins, handwriting consistent with that of Captain Cumming: Inquire with Inglis about Alexandra's refit, maybe steer some german journalists to her?)

There's a joke here, and I have the vaguest suspicion it's a dirty one, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out what it is. Help?

[Rest of the memo unreadable due to damage sustained in a fire in SSB HQ in 1918]

FTFY  :drevil:

also yay best thread is alive again

(https://s23.postimg.org/4nm4q1i2z/Kongou_dess.gif)
Sureddo ga ikite iru, DESS!

I can't wait to see the sort of behemoths you'll be building for your fight against the Sushis and their boatgirls.  Still only 12-inch guns and no oil though?  Disappointing.

Next update.  :drevil:

Lack of oil sucks, indeed.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 01, 2017, 10:16:22 am

(Handwritten note, scrawled in the margins, handwriting consistent with that of Captain Cumming: Inquire with Inglis about Alexandra's refit, maybe steer some german journalists to her?)

Mansfield Smith-Cumming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansfield_Smith-Cumming) was the SSB's (which would later be called the SIS) first Director.  He regularly ommitted the "Smith" part of his name, and was by some accounts A Character (Stories would have it that he amputated his foot himself with a pen opener in order to get away from a car crash; while that wasn't true, he was in the habit of making up quite a lot of shocking stories about the loss.

HMY Alexandra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMY_Alexandra) was the Royal Yacht between 1908 and 1922.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 01, 2017, 10:21:49 am
I know who Cumming was - I was less sure about Alexandria and am still completely in the dark re: Inglis and why german journalists should be steered to Alexandria?  :confused:

PM me, I don't want to look stupid in my thread.  :p :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 01, 2017, 10:27:11 am
Done
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 01, 2017, 10:32:36 am
Ooooooooooooh.

Sneaky Cumming, yess. :lol:

[Idea yoinked by plagiarising Enioch] :nervous:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on July 02, 2017, 08:59:10 am
Possibly the only thing the russians were leading in, and then zee germans stole it.
I'm sure that invoked a couple of cyka bylats at the russian admiralty.

Also, are we sabotaging the palace plans of the kaiser?!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 02, 2017, 09:08:28 am
Of course we're sabotaging the palace plans of the Kaiser. If he wants to win the upcoming war(s), he'd better learn to slum it along with the rest of the heroic German population and make sacrifices of his own!  :nono:

It's not like he has a massive winter residence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Palace,_Berlin) and at least two summer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Palace_(Potsdam)) residences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schloss_Wilhelmsh%C3%B6he).

Oh wait, he does. :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on July 02, 2017, 09:28:57 am
Ah Willhelmshöhe, nice park area with the Hercules :D
Title: SMS Zaehringen
Post by: Enioch on July 07, 2017, 10:24:56 am
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SMS Zähringen was a battlecruiser built for the Imperial German Navy (Kaiserliche Marine) that revolutionised naval power. Her entry into service in 1915 represented such an advance in naval technology that her name came to be associated with an entire generation of German capital ships, the Zähringens, as well as, specifically, the class of ships named after her. The generation of battlecruisers she made obsolete became known as "pre-Zähringens" in non-German circles. Admirals Alfred von Tirpitz and Karl Galster are credited as the fathers of Zähringen. Shortly before the 1913 war with Japan, they ordered design studies for a battlecruiser armed solely with 12-inch (305 mm) guns (a necessity, given Germany's underdeveloped gun-foundries), a speed of 25 knots (46.5 km/h; 29 mph) and Dreadnought-level armour protection. The core of the design was to be its ability to destroy its opponent with overwhelming weight of broadside.

The Admirals convened a "Committee on Designs" to evaluate the alternative designs and to assist in the detailed design work. One ancillary benefit of the Committee was that it would shield them and the Admiralty from political criticism (especially from Kaiser Wilhelm II) that they had not consulted leading experts before designing such a radically different battlecruiser...

-Wikipedia article on SMS Zähringen

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October 1912 - and private shipbuilders contribute yet again, shortly before the planned works in Wilhelmshaven are brought to an end. Instead of 49k tons, the largest ships that can now be built in Germany by early November can reach a staggering 51k tons. This 'spike' in shipbuilding capability catches all the other nations off guard, and Germany is eager to capitalise on it.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/dbgxpvv2d/Screenshot_3876.png)

Undine and Arcona finish their trial runs and join Galster's cruiser squadrons...

(https://s16.postimg.cc/gywovy39h/Screenshot_3877.png)

And R & D submits designs for superheaters, to be used as part of German engines for considerable machinery weight savings. This is very welcome, especially given the 'spike' in shipbuilding capability - with war with Japan imminent, Tirpitz and Galster (now fast personal friends under von Mecklenburg's patronage, as well as professional colleagues) are planning their move against Great Britain. They will need an answer to her crushing superiority in tonnage.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/f4jue7g91/Screenshot_3878.png)

Derfflinger leaves the drydocks in November, joining her sisters in the Baltic...

(https://s16.postimg.cc/c7wtdxaf9/Screenshot_3879.png)

...and, on the 15th of November, with the Balkan Wars still raging, Ottoman forces strike against the Greek population element in Rhodes and the rest of the Dodecanese Islands.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/vgtw3xukl/Screenshot_3880.png)

The Germans are quite friendly with the Greeks: they have provided them with their flagship, Georgios Averoff, which is now, almost single-handedly, holding the Ottoman fleet contained in the Dardanelles. The Greek Crown Prince, Constantine, is married to the Kaiser's sister. And, perhaps more importantly, the Germans are eager to establish a presence in the eastern Mediterranean, to counter the British bases in Cyprus and Egypt. The German fleet elements from Sardinia are dispatched to quell the hostilities in Rhodes; under the guidance of von Mecklenburg, they end up ousting the Ottoman forces, supported by Greek Army and Marine elements. The Dodecanese is ceded to Greece, but Germany is granted basing rights in Rhodes, as well as full rights to the resources of specific areas of the island. German prospectors move out, to inspect the new holdings...

(https://s16.postimg.cc/a9q5fxhxh/Screenshot_3881.png)

This intervention, of course, cannot be ignored. France, Italy and Russia pitch a veritable fit at the German landgrab in the Med. The Ottoman Empire broods... and Great Britain is near apoplectic. Tensions skyrocket. Only the USA observe dispassionately, uninterested in the developments halfway around the world.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/4a6zq0mit/Screenshot_3882.png)

Great Britain has reason to squeal; for in December the Germans manage to procure the plans of the new Sirius-class light cruisers. They are matching the Arconas in speed and can outrun the German Schlachtkreuzer, but they are only armed with 5-inch guns. The Admiralität is confident that their own scout cruisers are far superior to those of the Brits.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/50zpvsow5/Screenshot_3883.png)

And then, shortly after the Neujahr celebrations of 1913, the R & D department submits structural designs for a specially reinforced capital ship bow; a bow that will be able to support a superimposed 'B' turret. Tirpitz and Galster go berserk.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/435gaqlv9/tanya_degurechaff_youjo_senki_drawn_by_hawawan.jpg)

THIS IS THE TIME.

At this point, the German shipbuilders only have their (admittedly good) 12-inch guns to work with. But experience in the Russian wars has shown that more barrels equal more hits; 12-inch guns are relatively light; and they are more than sufficient to penetrate existing belts at brawling range.

And the Germans now have a lot of displacement weight to play with, both for lots of guns and lots of armor for brawling.

So, by the end of the month, the Admiralität convenes a "Committee on Designs", to evaluate possible designs for Germanys new super-capital ship. The Committee assembles under the strictest secrecy and haste; the Germans know that the construction of these ships will take years, and they wish to gain as much head start as they can, by keeping their designs secret.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/l0idfckxx/Screenshot_3884.png)

The first proposed design (SK19G) was drawn following the 'traditional' German cross-deck-fire arrangement. It mounted nineteen 12-inch rifles, in five centerline triple turrets and two double turrets in cross-deck-fire placements. It would weigh 50k tons, with a 12-inch belt and 13-inch turret armor.

However, the lessons from the Moltke had been learned. Wing turret barbettes were a liability in what concerned compartmentalisation and jeopardised the ship's underwater protection. So, Tirpitz and Galster returned to the design bureau, with a request for a fully-centreline weapons arrangement.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/7pz3zkjr9/Screenshot_3885.png)

The end result was the crystallised Zähringen design. Eighteen 12-inch guns, in a 50k-ton hull, with a 13-inch belt and 13.5-inch turret armor. Her deck would be fully splinter-proof, with armor ranging from 2.5 to 2 inches and her conning tower would be nigh-impregnable, with a monolithic 16 inches of armor: the Zähringens were designed from the get-go to be fleet command ships. Their underwater protection was the best of their time and they were designed to reach 25 knots, the standard Schlachtkreuzer speed at the time. Fourteen 4-inch guns in double turrets comprised her anti-DD armament, more than enough to blow any closing light craft out of the water.

These ships were true monsters, and the first of a generation. The Germans would adopt the 'floating shotgun' approach, to some extent, in all their later designs. 'How many guns can we fit into this?' would be the credo of the German design bureau for years to come, even when larger naval rifles had been developed.

For reference, here is a rundown of the Zähringen's characteristics, compared with the Brits' attempt to counter the German ship, the dreadnought Camperdown. The British ship has a greater weight of fire, as it mounts 15-inch rifles; but the German's shells can go through her armor like butter and the German shoots more shells (thereby assuring more hits).

(https://s1.postimg.cc/hrlb3gnen/Comparison.jpg)

Two ships are laid down: the Zähringen and the Mackensen, with a planned completion date of June 1915.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/kp0x2l4hx/Screenshot_3886.png)

(https://s4.postimg.cc/9jf7yunbh/Youjo_Senki_Screenshot_0558.jpg)

And, immediately once their designs were finalised and their keels were laid down, the R & D department submitted their designs for a revolutionary new fire-control system: Fire Directors.

It's a good thing that the Zähringens were designed with a provision of 190 tons for fire control system upgrades. It would take a month to make the necessary changes, but the end result would be more than worth it...

(https://s16.postimg.cc/hjgbcdlvp/Screenshot_3887.png)

Especially since the Parliament, now fully backing von Mecklenburg and well-aware of the imminent clash with Japan, agreed to a massive increase in the Naval budget, right when Tirpitz and Galster needed it the most. Holy crap, the politicians are working to support the Navy!

(https://s16.postimg.cc/k220d27lx/Screenshot_3888.png)

Lützow, still three months from completion, can also be fitted with directors before launch. This will add another month to her build time, but Tirpitz cannot say 'Ja, bitte!' fast enough.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/yp2yuq685/Screenshot_3890.png)

In March, R & D delivers again. There may be times (in the distant future) when the Zähringens' 12-inchers will be unable to penetrate enemy armor. For such occasions, meet the new 305mm Sprenggranate T08. Say goodbye to your superstructures, Brits!

(https://s16.postimg.cc/5clrmaupx/Screenshot_3891.png)

(https://s16.postimg.cc/q83gjt1j9/Screenshot_3892.png)

Ohohohoho. Ho ho. Well. This is a pleasant surprise. Germany can now do some aggressive mining.

(https://s16.postimg.cc/cjngi65mt/Screenshot_3894.png)

And some aggressive torpedoing, too. Time to design some new Zerst...

(https://s16.postimg.cc/qot9jzeo5/Screenshot_3895.png)

...

Wait, what do you mean, 'Tsingtao is under surprise attack?'


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on July 07, 2017, 10:41:01 am
Nippon banzaaaaai

I love the amount of guns on the Zähringen  :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 07, 2017, 10:56:03 am
I'll just put this here. Just to give you an idea of how these darlings fight. All three occasions vs enemy capitals, at 7k to 12k yards range.

They average 3 to 4 hits per minute / round, simply by throwing enough **** at the wall.

Spoiler:
The last case took place in 1936. Yes, they are still kicking ass and taking names against modern BCs, more than 20 years after their commissioning.

(https://s9.postimg.cc/c30yqh3zz/Screenshot-_4198.jpg)

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 07, 2017, 12:25:12 pm
From the archives of the Generalstab, Abteilung 3:

Quote
Record of possible intelligence contact
Filed by: Otto von Alvensleben, Kapitän zur See
Witnessed by: Gerhard Elbers, Leutnant im Stabsdienst

Full report:
Quote
Yesterday evening, me and my wife went to a performance at the Kiel Opera House. During intermission, I was approached by James Waterhouse, a person known to me as one of the Attaches at the United States Consulate. Apparently aware of my recent secondment to Admiral von Tirpitz' Design committee, he inquired about rumours he heard about the ship we were planning. I remained noncommittal, only going so far as to call it a natural evolution of our existing Battlecruisers, but given that my secondment was supposed to be secret, I have to wonder just how Mr Waterhouse knew that I was a person to ask about it.

Quote
[Short-wave intercept record]
[Intercepted: March 13th, 1913]
[Original format: Morse code, encrypted, encryption identified as one-time-pad]
[Message archived, March 15th]
[Message matched to remains of one-time-pad recovered during police raid on residence of agent identified as "T"]
[Recovered message follows]
Quote

[Section irrecoverable]
... confirmed by local contacts. Spoke to sources at the shipyard, big military contract has come in. Sources are sure that the Admiralty has ordered "wahre Monster", requiring the use of the full capacity of the new slipways.
[Message ends]
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on July 07, 2017, 12:31:02 pm
Also, holy hell. A 50 kiloton Battlecruiser in 1915. Ships in OTL didn't get that big until the 1930s. These things must eat their weight in coal in very short order.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on July 07, 2017, 01:15:51 pm
You bet your ass they do.

Do you remember how I've been religiously upgrading my bases in Africa and SE Asia? That's so I could have coaling stations along the way from Germany to Japan, just so I could avoid a Fleet of the Damned scenario. My stations in Tanga and West Africa could, until recently, support two thirds of my capital ship fleet per month.

Just these two monsters are  enough to overwhelm my supply chains there.

 
Spoiler:
And there'll be a third sister joining them soon, to honour the dead...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Droid803 on July 07, 2017, 06:51:16 pm
Moar dakka!
Title: Surprise Attack
Post by: Enioch on July 10, 2017, 10:28:39 am
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21st of April, 1913; A day that will be forever remembered in German history. Shortly after sunset, a German patrol boat spots an unidentified capital ship approaching the harbour of Tsingtaou. It races back, frantically signaling alarm towards the harbour with blinkered searchlights. In Germany, halfway around the world, the Japanese ambassador has just handed an official declaration of war to von Mecklenburg.

Graf Maximillian von Spee is roused; he immediately gives the order for the two light cruisers Niobe and Gefion to raise steam. His third cruiser, Thetis has been dispatched to Southeast Asia, there to conduct patrols; it is safe from this surpise attack. However, the ships at harbour most emphatically are not.

He suspects that the Japanese strike will be, primarily, an anti-shipping one; an attempt to knock German raiding and patroling elements out, to allow the Japanese fleet uncontested rule over the Far East waters. He really doubts the Japanese are bringing any army elements with them: he decides that his best chance is to abandon the harbour and seek safety in open waters. If his two obsolete cruisers can just survive the coming hours, they will prove to be a massive thorn in the side of the Japanese.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/6qszaqe0f/Screenshot_3897.png)

20:36: The shore batteries to the north-east of Tsingaou come under fire from unidentified capital ships. Von Spee's cruisers have just managed to raise steam; but they have only reached the entrance to the harbour-

(https://s17.postimg.cc/uj2am9g1b/Screenshot_3898.png)

-when five IJN destroyers appear from out of the gloom.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/mhe24cx9r/Screenshot_3900.png)

A spread of torpedoes stabs out towards the slow German ships. Hits are scored; and the spine of the Gefion cracks. The ship goes down almost immediately, its bridge riddled with light cannon fire. Von Spee dies, almost immediately, in the resulting butchery. Niobe dies slower, allowing her crew the time to abandon ship. She also gives her gunners the time to fire a few shots against the fleeing destroyers. No Japanese ships are sunk; but observers from the shore report several explosions on their decks.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/n4cytvu5r/Screenshot_3901.png)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/iz227ywdr/Screenshot_3902.png)

The entire raid lasts less than three hours. The Tsingtaou fleet has been wiped out completely: the Germans no longer have any naval presence in Northeast Asia whatsoever.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/gvrn0awkv/Screenshot_3903.png)

The response of the Admiralty is immediate, and very much along the lines of the deceptively methodical planning that has served Germany so well during previous wars. The four veteran Schlachtkreuzer are currently in drydock, being refitted with fire directors; but the three Wittelsbachs and the modernised Victoria Louises are not. Within two days of the attack, the German fleet leaves the Baltic, escorted by the seven modern V3 Zerstörer. They will embark on a four-month journey, to reach the theatre of operations, sailing around Africa and across the Indian Ocean.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/ghqup5187/Fleet_of_the_Badasses.jpg)

They will refuel in West Africa and Tanganyika; and they will need to cross the gauntlet of Japanese-held Borneo to reach their bases. But here, the surviving Thetis can be of great help. If she can stay alive, for the time it takes the Germans to arrive, she can serve as a minuscule fleet-in-being. The Japanese cannot afford to strip their home waters of intercepting cruisers, or they will allow her to run rampant on their merchant shipping.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/jyqzh7h69/08931cbbf93b3e18f5968f080d793ba7--german-submari.jpg)

And, more importantly, the Japanese have failed to crack the submarine pens in Tsingtaou. There, in concrete bunkers, the Germans have eight of their most modern boats. These boats demand a response of the Japanese; their prime directive is to keep the enemy guessing and on their toes, always on the defensive around their home waters.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/dq71a3dyn/Screenshot_3904.png)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/rz6ns5shb/Screenshot_3905.png)

And the German submariners earn their keep. While there is little they can do to challenge the surface superiority of the Japanese...

(https://s17.postimg.cc/lk7mvhlrj/Screenshot_3906.png)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/8fknjzygf/u-20.jpg)

...they proceed to smash their merchant shipping, in one of the most brutal campaigns of unrestricted submarine warfare in modern history. Within the space of one month, twenty Japanese freighters find their way to the bottom of the sea; and any plans the Japanese had of a seaborne invasion of Tsingtaou come to a screeching halt. They cannot risk any landing craft against that.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/fn8cseu0f/Screenshot_3907.png)

Hahaha - no.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/gbh7bcsq7/Screenshot_3908.png)

In May, with her sisters already well underway, Lützow is commissioned.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/753i1tcvj/Screenshot_3909.png)

And the veteran Schlachtkreuzer leave drydock. They are assigned to patroling the home waters - there is little sense in committing the entirety of the German battle-line to fight the Japanese halfway around the world. By staying home, they will be able to at least delay any back-stabbing attempt by the British.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/768uhhpbj/Screenshot_3910.png)

R & D also produce improved designs for integrating armour into a ship's hull. That would have been much more helpful before the Zähringens were laid down, but it's hard to fault the engineers for their good work.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/llm62ncz3/Screenshot_3912.png)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/mvjzhp6r3/Screenshot_3913.png)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/z196s3lgv/Screenshot_3914.png)

June - and, with the German fleet now less than a month away from Borneo, the submarines continue to reap a bloody toll. The Japanese are still dominating the seas in the Far East, but they cannot commit to any land attacks and their fleet core is still patroling their home waters.

And then, on the 18th of June, the Thetis, moving erratically between German Polynesian bases and anchorages to avoid detection, runs into HIJMS Chiyoda in the Bismarck Archipelago. The German captain is under strict orders not to risk his ship, but he deems the chance to be too good and powers into the engagement.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/y6mn62dm7/Screenshot_3915.png)

The Chiyoda is taken completely by surprise. She's a destroyer-killer and a raider, almost half the size of the German vessel. Furthermore, she's only armed with 4-inch guns, where Thetis is a scout cruiser armed with a broadside of six 6-inchers. She also has 2 knots on the Japanese vessel and her captain knows how to use them.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/yi43itu27/Screenshot_3916.png)

An hour after the first sighting, Thetis has well and truly slotted into the Chiyoda's tail, repeatedly serpentining to cross her T. Raking shots punch through the Japanese vessel's stern and detonate in her machinery spaces.

(https://s14.postimg.cc/rhf1okikx/Photo_WW1-06cl_Ger_Emden1destroyed_GW.jpg)

(https://s17.postimg.cc/5xkyvuxdb/Screenshot_3917.png)

Half an hour later, the Chiyoda is a burning, sinking wreck and Thetis, after launching a torpedo to confirm her kill, turns to the north and safety. She has avenged her sisters, lost at Tsingtaou; and she has scored the first notable victory of the war for the Germans.

(https://s21.postimg.cc/4elj1kq5z/Screenshot_(3918).png)

More importantly, she has succeeded in drawing Japanese forces away from Borneo, in an attempt to intercept her. The German fleet has reached and crossed the South China Sea and they are now on the last stretch of the journey to Tsingtaou. The Wittelsbach, Jindenburg and Derfflinger are bearing down on the Japanese home waters like avenging angels.



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Title: Graf Spee
Post by: Enioch on August 07, 2017, 04:29:43 am
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The success of our submarine forces was an eye-opening experience. Based on the stricken Tsingtaou pens, operating with minimal support and always within Japanese-controled waters, the Kaleuns of our Unterseeflotte gave a glorious reckoning of themselves. The estimates for sunken Japanese tonnage soared along with our crews' morale.

Putting asde, for now, the satisfaction we drew from avenging Tsingtaou, the Admiralität did not fail to draw significant conclusions regarding the effectiveness of submarine warfare against an island nation. The war against the Japanese was a challenge in itself; but it also served to prepare us, better than any other war in the past, for the inevitable Day.

-Großadmiral v. Tirpitz 1920, My Memoirs, London: Hurst & Blackett.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/mlnwqnjrr/Screenshot_3919.png)

Despite little Thetis' victory, she is unable to return to her base in Truk. She is forced to join up with the German fleet, after a long 'hook' to the north. The German forces continue steaming toward Tsingtaou, but the Caroline islands are left undefended. Nevertheless, the Japanese hesitate to capitalise on this; the Caroline garrisons are isolated, but remain unchallenged.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/ccvfktvpz/Screenshot_3920.png)

Meanwhile, Moltke leaves drydock, with its new director systems installed, and takes up patrol duties in the North Sea.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/hcsvss1cn/Screenshot_3921.png)

(https://s13.postimg.cc/qec0k4onr/Screenshot_3922.png)

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The German submarines keep savaging the Japanese merchant traffic. This keeps the Japanese fleet bottled up near the Home Islands.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/eny32qvvb/Screenshot_3924.png)

But, still, the Japanese suffer. Three months into the war, and German submarines are already choking Japan to her knees. Galster co-ordinates with the Unterseebootkommando, to establish an effective submarine blockade; and the Admiralität takes notes in interest. It is both surprising and terrifying how effective such a strategy is against an island nation...

(https://s13.postimg.cc/j7abo9dqv/Screenshot_3934.png)

And as we enter July, with a new batch of submarines leaving the slipways, the Admiralität lays aside the funds (more than five-and-a-half million Marks monthly) for a third ship of the Zähringen class. The Graf Spee (originally planned to be called Lothringen) is renamed to honour the heroic Maximilian von Spee, who died in Tsingtaou, during the opening surprise attack. It will take two and a half years to complete.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/76ovnj6c7/Screenshot_3935.png)

July also marks the beginning of the Autumn Massacre. The German Heerleitung, submits plans for the invasion of southern Korea: a daring attack on Japanese fortified positions. The Navy (having patrolled the area for years and having good knowledge of the defense-in-depth that the Japanese have installed) vehemently argue against the plan. Tirpitz and Galster both argue for a continued naval campaign, that will completely isolate and starve out the Japanese forces in Korea, while tightening the chokehold on the Islands; nevertheless, the Kaiser authorises the attack.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/5mjjp4xxz/Screenshot_3936.png)

August: and R & D finishes testing on their new, massive 12-foot rangefinders. The Asian squadrons cannot be refitted, this far away from the home waters; but the older Schlachtkreuzer are scheduled to receive the upgrades during their next maintenance cycle.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/rx7ep3v87/Screenshot_3937.png)

(https://s13.postimg.cc/b6w0zrwt3/Screenshot_3938.png)

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The U-Boote continue to slaughter the Japanese left and right; U-114, in particular, gets cheeky. Her CO, Kaleun Eder, surfaces next to the Japanese kaibokan Takasago Maru and blows her out of the water with his rapid-fire 3-inch deck gun.

The Japanese response lacks spirit; their forays in the South China Sea have become considerably more timid now that the Wittelsbachs are on-station. Although, that Izumi has proven to be quite the thorn on Germany's side...

(https://s13.postimg.cc/7kut0vftj/Screenshot_3941.png)

(https://s13.postimg.cc/8oexcu0gn/Screenshot_3945.png)

In reprisals, Gefion is sent to a daring daylight raid into the Gulf of Sasebo. She dodges the coastal batteries, and crests the cape of Nagasaki at flank speed. There, she engages three kaibokan in a close-range brawl and hammers the moored freighters, before slipping out safely.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/92g9cfkk7/Screenshot_3946.png)

It's a minor victory, but it establishes that the Japanese can do little to defend their own harbours, against even an obsolescent cruiser like the Gefion.

(https://s13.postimg.cc/sa3e912vr/Screenshot_3947.png)

More submarines!

(https://s13.postimg.cc/m7vrijefr/Screenshot_3948.png)

And the veteran Schlachtkreuzer have now all finished their refitting. The Home Waters are secure (at least for now); time to press the offensive in the East.

High time too. There are some very worrying news coming from the Korean front...


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 07, 2017, 04:32:24 am
STILL ATEN'T DEAD JUST ON HOLIDAY.

Actually surprised the Tsingtaou raid did not get a single response. Go on, The_E, write something fun!  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on August 07, 2017, 05:08:43 am
I dont know how, but I somehow completely missed the previous update being posted at all. The forum didn't show the thread as having any new messages for me.
And now I'm just going "hory ****" when I see what the submarines are doing to those poor nipponfreighters.

Those 'enemy fleets dominate the xxx seas' messages seem to give a pitful amount of VP?
Wow, they gain 5vp! meanwhile your subs are all like:
(http://i.imgur.com/J8pwIf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on August 07, 2017, 06:09:24 am
STILL ATEN'T DEAD JUST ON HOLIDAY.

Actually surprised the Tsingtaou raid did not get a single response. Go on, The_E, write something fun!  :p

Sorry about that, but all I was coming up with was a dramatization of the Tsingtaou battle, which I think would've been boring as hell. I have an idea for the next thing though....
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 07, 2017, 06:22:09 am
STILL ATEN'T DEAD JUST ON HOLIDAY.

Actually surprised the Tsingtaou raid did not get a single response. Go on, The_E, write something fun!  :p

Sorry about that, but all I was coming up with was a dramatization of the Tsingtaou battle, which I think would've been boring as hell. I have an idea for the next thing though....

I immediately had a mental image of Tsingtaou: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_(film)) a film by Michael Bay.

Widely bombed by critics for being boring as hell.  :p ;)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 07, 2017, 08:08:30 am
Those 'enemy fleets dominate the xxx seas' messages seem to give a pitful amount of VP?
Wow, they gain 5vp! meanwhile your subs are all like:
(http://i.imgur.com/J8pwIf4.jpg)

Also this is interesting.

The 'enemy fleet dominates' messages are, essentially, warning messages. No invasion may begin in an area where you don't have naval superiority; so, this is the game's way of telling you "you are not contesting the invasion-capable enemy fleet in XXXX area. Either bring something there to block them, or do not complain if they start taking your goodies."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scourge of Ages on August 09, 2017, 08:31:54 pm
Ah, so it's "dominates" as in "the uncontested leader" and not "dominates" as in "consistently and brutally annihilating your dudes".
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on August 09, 2017, 09:35:50 pm
Keep in mind the only dudes of Enioch's that are actually there are the submarines who are doing a brilliant job of sinking any merchant vessel with the rising sun on it.  When the actual battle fleet finishes rebasing to Tsingtao, Enioch's beloved boatgirls from the prior LP are going to start dying in droves.
Title: Kantai Kessen
Post by: Enioch on August 28, 2017, 08:50:01 am
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"The neutralisation of the Japanese power in the South China Sea is a necessity for us. The Japanese, whether manipulated into this war by our perfidious enemies or not, have struck at us without warning, and threatened the safety of our citizens and our great Reich's interests in the Far East. A peace, therefore, can -and must- only be concluded when their power is well and truly broken; when they can pose no threat to Germany any more."

"From the moment the first shot was fired, we did not wish for a tentative peace; a peace that would burden us for many decades and would draw us ever back to the Far East. We wish for a peace that will allow us a free development and security for our new blood, in Europe and overseas!"

-Excerpt from a Parliamentary speech by Herzog Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, Reichskanzler, 6th September 1913.

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September rolls in; the R & D department submits designs for even more efficient pumps. The Moltke incident is still a black mark in the Admiralität, and focus is still primarily given to safeguarding ships from torpedo attack; or, at least, preventing them from succumbing to it. Especially against the dastardly Japanese!

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In addition, Galster and Büchsel work together to streamline and introduce new fleet cruising formations; formations that will facilitate rapid deployment into line-of-battle if attacked by light forces.

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They are still underway and experimenting when the first reports for the month start coming in. The death toll for the U-Boote includes a modern Japanese destroyer and a coastal patrol vessel; not to mention ten merchantmen. The Japanese counter-offensive is weak, in comparison: they are clearly still unfamiliar with the intricacies of underwater warfare.

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And, with regards to their surface raiders, the arrival of the German Schlachtkreuzer on-station sounds the death-knell for the light Japanese cruisers. The Izumi is tracked down by Wittelsbach, which is faster and infinately better armed and armoured; the Japanese cruiser is lost on the 26th of the month, trying to sneak into the Marianas hunting grounds.

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But the Japanese draw blood in return. Despite the warnings of the Admiralität, the Heer had pushed on with the proposed Korean offensive. They had smashed headlong into one of the most fortified and fanatically defended territories in the world. Casualties were horrendous; and the resulting rout tarnished the reputation of the Army for years. It fell to the Navy to pick up the pieces and, in some cases, even evacuate stranded personnel, after the inevitable Japanese counter-attack. This tied down the fleet in regrettable but necessary land support operations; establishing a tight blockade on the Japanese Home Islands was, unfortunately, delayed.

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That said, the U-Boote were not idle. Wolfpacks sank fourteen Japanese freighters, some of which were valuable tankers meant to resupply the Korean offensive; and U-108 engaged in a victorious duel with a Japanese patrol vessel.

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The Japanese strike back ineffectively. Their submarines are undersupplied and badly maintained; one of them is lost to German patrol vessels after one of only two successful ship attacks. Their raiders are, similarly, rather unsuccessful in their efforts. Naniwa runs down the Vogel, a seven-thousand ton freighter in the South Pacific; and the Itsukushima surprises everyone when she, somehow manages to sneak into the Mediterranean and sink the Nordsee off Sardinia. Schlachtkreuzer from the Atlantic are deployed to intercept her; somehow she manages to escape. It is suspected that the British garrison at Gibraltar provides her with support, but that is never established beyond doubt.

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Meanwhile, by the end of the month, the Wittelsbach returns to her anti-raider patrols, and nabs the Unebi off Singapore.

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November; the Admiralität puts into effect its plan to establish a blockade and starve the Japanese into surrender. First, submarines are dispatched, to clear the sea of patrol vessels;

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And then an all-out assault on Japanese merchant shipping is unleashed, with devastating results.

Finally, the fleet departs its harbours in the Southern Pacific and sails north. Galster, from on board the Hindenburg, has intercepted Japanese communications that speak of a large convoy moving to resupply Korea, under heavy escort. He wishes to engage and sink it; and to cause as much damage to the Japanese battle-line as he can.

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This is the first time (but not the last), that a Wittelsbach-class Schlachtkreuzer will see combat. Germany holds her collective breath.

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It is the 12th of November; and Arcona, sailing ahead of the German fleet, spots the enemy convoy south of the Korean peninsula. The local time is just before noon; the weather is cloudy, but the atmosphere is clear and the Germans have more than seven hours ahead of them until nightfall. The enemy spots Arcona in return, as the German cruiser accellerates to intercept; and they immediately turn towards the north. The rest of the German battlefleet is almost ten thousand yards behind Arcona; Hindenburg and Derfflinger are leading, with the older Victoria-Louise cruisers (including Hertha, now for the first time ever not flying Galster's flag) bringing up the rear.

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Arcona continues her stellar scouting work; twenty minutes after first contact, she has identified a Hashidate light cruiser...

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...and, inside the panicked ball of Japanese merchantmen, she also makes out the larger hulls of...

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...a Yashima-class battleship...

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...and the Fuso, the oldest Japanese battleship currently in service. Both ships are British-built, with 12-inch guns; they are almost half the size of the Wittelsbachs, with less than half their broadside and can only make 18 knots to the German behemoths' 25. Sadly for the Japanese, they are, indeed, the heaviest ships they can field.

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Arcona slows down and allows the battle-line to overtake her; the two Schlachtkreuzer lumber past her at flank. Their batteries are already training to take the Japanese predreads under fire. Meanwhile, the cruisers are opening fire on the transports, who, in turn, are peeling off towards the north-west.

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Galster will not allow them to escape. He turns his battle-line to the west, in pursuit; and lets his secondaries hammer the transports, keeping his main guns on the enemy capitals. His Zerstörer flank from the east; and they blanket the convoy's path with torpedoes. An hour after the first shot is fired, four enemy transports are burning.

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The Japanese battleships turn towards the east, to escape the guns of the Wittelsbachs; but that brings them near the Zerstörer. The V5 screams past the Yashima at a range of under two thousand yards - and one of her torpedoes hits the enemy battlewagon on the aft.

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Her rear turret jams, and the Schlachtkreuzer train their guns away from her (they can catch up to her anytime, after all) and focus on the Japanese heavy cruiser Asama, to the north.

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Galster is vaccilating. The convoy is long-sunk, but he does not wish to close the range against the Japanese forces. The enemy still has several destroyers available; and all his ships are armed wit torpedoes. He brings the fleet around, trying to take stock of the situation.

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And then, a massive fountain of water erupts from the side of the Fuso. Galster is stunned. That's a torpedo strike, but there are no German Zerstörer within torpedo range of the foundering Japanese ship.

The explanation is simple, but hard to believe. The torpedo is Japanese. One of the Japanese destroyers loosed her torpedoes against the closing German Zerstörer, but failed to perceive that they would cross the Fuso's path.

The end result is appalling. The Fuso has already taken some accurate fire from the Schlachtkreuzer; the powerful Japanese torpedo hits her amidships and cracks her hull like a nut. She rolls over and sinks in under four minutes, taking more than half of her crew of a thousand down with her.

The Yashima is now alone, against two of the most modern warships in the world.

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As she tries to escape towards the east, the Schlachtkreuzer move north, taking the armored cruiser Asama under fire and scoring several hits. The Japanese ship fires back; her shells bounce harmlessly off the Hindenburg's armor.

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Almost three hours into the fight; Derfflinger's gunnery officers report that her magazines are half-empty.

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But the Asama, now under fire by Hertha and her sisters, is a floating wreck, her engines dead and her turrets knocked out.

The Schlachtkreuzer move to intercept the Yashima-

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-and then, a Japanese DD redeems its brethren with an insanely lucky successful long-range torpedo strike on the Derfflinger. Water fountains well over the port broadside, as the warhead buries itself in the Schlachtkreuzer's torpedo bulge. Alarms blare all over the ship; and damage control crews scramble to the stricken area.

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The verdict is...surprisingly optimistic, and a testament to the successful implementation of underwater torpedo protection by the Germans. The torpedo hit just at the forward end of the bulge, flooding two underwater compartments, and the front turret of the ship falls silent, as the loaders are ordered to evacuate and flood the magazine, for safety reasons. But the actual flooding is controlled. Watertight doors are holding and the bulkheads are strong. The damcon crews scream at the bridge to cut speed for emergency repairs; the Derfflinger slows to her cruise speed of 16 knots. She is still faster than the battered Yashima.

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But Galster will not risk a second lucky strike, or a capital ship loss. Derfflinger is ordered to detach and sail away from the battle, until they have the flooding under full control; the Hindenburg, on the other hand, takes up pursuit alone, cruising past the drifting hulks of the battered convoy.

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The Germans are well-acquainted with the necessary damcon procedures by now. Ten minutes after the torpedo strike, the flooding on Derfflinger is pretty much dealt with.

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And, shortly after, the Yashima's bow slips quietly, almost anticlimactically, under the waves, after a savage pounding at the hands of Hindenburg. Dusk is falling, after a four-hour battle; Galster signals his forces to retreat. He is too canny to risk a nighttime pursuit of the Japanese light forces.

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The German forces sail into their harbors in Northern Korea, tired yet satisfied. This is a great victory. The Japanese now have no battle-fleet worth the name (their first dreadnought is more than a year away from completion). They have lost their two pre-dreads and the Asama-class cruiser Tokiwa, as well as the entirety of the resupply convoy; in return, they've scratched the paint on Hindenburg and three Zerstörer, and dealt some damage to Derfflinger that is easily repairable.

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Hindenburg is clearly MVP, with over six hundred rounds fired and more than thirty confirmed hits on target; Derfflinger follows suit with over five hundred shots fired and twenty-odd hits. The old cruisers have emerged entirely unscathed from the fight, but only Vineta has made any meaningful contribution, with eleven hits scored. The Japanese performed abysmally from a gunner's perspective, with only four heavy hits received by the German ships. In total. Over four hours of combat.

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The Battle of Southern Korea is a great victory and the Wittelsbachs have survived their baptism of fire with flying colours! The Admiralität celebrates, when the news reach Germany.

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It is no surprise when the Japanese sue for peace. They are starving and their fleet -their lifeblood- is gone, with the exception of a few raiding cruisers and a couple of old, turn-of-the-century heavy cruisers.

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What is surprising is that, even after a month of negotiations, they still reject Germany's terms.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 28, 2017, 08:52:03 am
I STILL ATEN'T DEAD.

I AM ALSO BACK. MUAHA. HA. :arrr:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on August 28, 2017, 09:04:25 am
Was the repeated screenshot at the end there intentional?

ALso YAY IT LIVES
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 28, 2017, 09:07:47 am
YOU SAW NOTHING.

ALSO, YOU OWE ME OMAKES. GET TO IT.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on August 28, 2017, 12:59:12 pm
Nippon steel no match for german engineering

What do the flooding numbers mean? Like, what kind of number is really bad flooding?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 28, 2017, 01:08:04 pm
No absolute numbers are bad.

Flooding equals tons of effective flotation lost to flooding every minute. So, if your ship effectively displaces 31000 tons, and you 'lose' 75 of them every minute....that's not too bad.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on August 28, 2017, 01:37:59 pm
Ubootwaffe causes the seas run clear with Sake, and well just about everything else the Japanese attempted to ship.

Dreimal hoch für Unterseeboot!
(http://im12.it/g/16969)


Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scourge of Ages on August 28, 2017, 08:47:07 pm
Torpedo Officer Sasaki glanced between his notepad and the map in the center of the bridge, and up at the Captain. "Captain. The enemy destroyers are very close, and very tightly packed."

"Do you think you can hit at this range?"

"I doubt we'll hit, honestly, but I feel it's worth a chance to at least distract them. We've already worked a solution, and we await your orders only."

Captain Nakajima considered it for only a second. "Fire."

The pneumatic mechanisms clanked and hissed, and a single torpedo dropped into the water. Its engine kicked on, and it sped away like a hungry tuna. From this range, it was all the Destroyer Fumizuki could do against the huge German fleet.

"Captain!" Lieutenant Kato shouted, "Fuso is turning to port!"

Nakajima swung his binoculars left to find the Fuso. Drawing on long experience, he did a mental calculation, and determined that its new course brought it dangerously close to the path of their torpedo.

"Radio Fuso immediately! Order them to cut throttle and turn hard to starboard!"

20 painful seconds later, the communications officer reported, "Fuso is not responding! Their radio may be damaged."

"Send a flare and use the signal lamp, then!"

The officer bolted off the bridge, and climbed onto the platform above. A moment later, the pop of a flare gun could be heard. Nakajima watched Fuso helplessly, waiting for a response from their signaler. And there it was. A quick series of flashes: Roger. Changing course.

Fuso didn't appear to change course at all, but that was to be expected from such a large ship. It would take several seconds for the rudder to even shift over in the best of circumstances, and these were hardly ideal.

The bridge crew were silent, and the sounds of battle seemed to fade away. After what felt like an eternity, a mountain of seawater and fire erupted over the bow of the Fuso. The torpedo had struck near the bow of the warship, ripping a gaping hole in the side of the ship. She started to tilt forward immediately. The crew of the Fumizuki watched in horror.

"Set... Set course for the Fuso, full speed. Prepare to rescue survivors." Nakajima let no emotion into his voice.

"Sir. That will bring us into range of the enemy guns."

"I know. Do it anyway."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 29, 2017, 01:20:26 am
Torpedo Officer Sasaki glanced between his notepad and the map in the center of the bridge, and up at the Captain. "Captain. The enemy destroyers are very close, and very tightly packed."

"Do you think you can hit at this range?"

"I doubt we'll hit, honestly, but I feel it's worth a chance to at least distract them. We've already worked a solution, and we await your orders only."

Captain Nakajima considered it for only a second. "Fire."

The pneumatic mechanisms clanked and hissed, and a single torpedo dropped into the water. Its engine kicked on, and it sped away like a hungry tuna. From this range, it was all the Destroyer Fumizuki could do against the huge German fleet.

"Captain!" Lieutenant Kato shouted, "Fuso is turning to port!"

Nakajima swung his binoculars left to find the Fuso. Drawing on long experience, he did a mental calculation, and determined that its new course brought it dangerously close to the path of their torpedo.

"Radio Fuso immediately! Order them to cut throttle and turn hard to starboard!"

20 painful seconds later, the communications officer reported, "Fuso is not responding! Their radio may be damaged."

"Send a flare and use the signal lamp, then!"

The officer bolted off the bridge, and climbed onto the platform above. A moment later, the pop of a flare gun could be heard. Nakajima watched Fuso helplessly, waiting for a response from their signaler. And there it was. A quick series of flashes: Roger. Changing course.

Fuso didn't appear to change course at all, but that was to be expected from such a large ship. It would take several seconds for the rudder to even shift over in the best of circumstances, and these were hardly ideal.

The bridge crew were silent, and the sounds of battle seemed to fade away. After what felt like an eternity, a mountain of seawater and fire erupted over the bow of the Fuso. The torpedo had struck near the bow of the warship, ripping a gaping hole in the side of the ship. She started to tilt forward immediately. The crew of the Fumizuki watched in horror.

"Set... Set course for the Fuso, full speed. Prepare to rescue survivors." Nakajima let no emotion into his voice.

"Sir. That will bring us into range of the enemy guns."

"I know. Do it anyway."

Enioch (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=8453) likes this. <3

Also, let the Mighty Gnome Overlord remind you all of the Number One Rule. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOL-NwvY4MM&t=2m26s)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on August 29, 2017, 08:26:52 am
Out of curiosity does the AI take into consideration disparity of forces when it goes to pick a fight(War)?  I suppose the Imperial Japan has the excuse that it's on the other end of the world fighting in its backyard, but still picking a fight with the preeminent Battlecruiser power on the High Seas with a couple pre-Dreads and some light forces seems dumb.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 29, 2017, 10:43:25 am
Out of curiosity does the AI take into consideration disparity of forces when it goes to pick a fight(War)?  I suppose the Imperial Japan has the excuse that it's on the other end of the world fighting in its backyard, but still picking a fight with the preeminent Battlecruiser power on the High Seas with a couple pre-Dreads and some light forces seems dumb.

Yes, it does, I think. The size of your force (and even its composition) seems to affect tensions with other nations in different ways. For instance, anything that increases your capital ship force (building new capitals, refitting older ships with new tech,
Spoiler:
acquiring oil,
always rubs the Brits the wrong way.

The AI also seems to take into account the tension level with other nations. If you have more than one nations pissed off with you, chances are high that one or both of them will go "**** it, let's go". Because, keep in mind that tensions can still rise during wartime (for instance with the "submarine sinks cruise liner" event). And if a new power joins the fight, VPs get reset.

What is important to note is that, in this particular case, the Japanese only had three obsolescent light cruisers on their doorstep; they were, as you rightly point out,  halfway around the world from German Home waters; and FOUR other great powers, including the Brits were at yellow/orange levels of tension when the war was declared.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on August 31, 2017, 02:37:42 am
[Transcript of the podcast "Historic Battles", episode 25, released on November 12th, 2013]

"Hello and welcome to Historic Battles, episode 25. I'm your host Ian McDonnough, and today, we're talking about the Battle of Southern Korea, which happened 100 years ago to the day today. With me here is friend of the show Franz Gustlaff, who you will remember from our episodes about the german-russian war of the early 20th century."

"Happy to be here, Ian, as always."

"Glad to have you. Now, for those of you who don't know what happened here, let me set the scene for you. It's November 1913. Germany and Japan are at war. Germany has just invaded Korea, but has been repulsed. The german Ubootflotte, which has been on station in the Pacific for some time now, has inflicted massive amounts of damage on Japanese shipping, even sinking a few surface warships, sometimes not even bothering to waste torpedoes and instead choosing to dispatch their targets using their deck guns. Now, Germany wants to bring this War to a close. They therefore send out their modern battlefleet under Admiral Galster around the world. Upon arrival, said fleet immediately manages to engage and sink a few isolated cruisers the IJN had on raiding duties, but nothing decisive is happening for a few days. Then, mid-November, Galster receives word of a huge convoy the IJN is putting together in order to resupply their forces in Korea. And when I say massive, I mean it: 17 merchantmen escorted by 15 light vessel, two light and 2 heavy cruisers and 2 battleships. Galster sends out his scouts, and at 11 AM on November 12th, 1913, his light cruisers report "enemy in sight".
Now, Franz, I know you've been looking forward to discussing this battle in particular for some time now, why is that?"

"Well, Ian, it's like this. I think this battle, more than others in that time period, exemplifies the insane pace of development that was happening in Germany in particular and in Europe in general at that time. It's 1913. 13 years ago, the germans were barely able to police their holdings in South-East Asia. Now, they're not only attacking one of the preeminent home powers of that region in its own backyard, they're doing so with some of the most modern ships available to anyone, while the IJN is lagging behind massively. In fact, Fuso and Yashima, the two japanese Battleships in this convoy, were built by the same yards that originally built Germany's large Battleships of prior to 1900, so we can directly see how much has happened here."

"British shipyards, you mean."

"Yes. I think that this battle, more than any of the ones that happened during the Russo-German war, really turned the German Navy from a regional powerhouse in the North Sea into a global one. In many ways, what the germans did here is something that very few other nations were capable at the time: To not only project power across thousands of miles, but be dominant wherever they choose to go. The Royal Navy was expected to do that, Germany however? Not so much."

"Alright then, let's get into the nitty-gritty of the battle then...."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on August 31, 2017, 02:38:03 am
THERE, Enioch, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 31, 2017, 02:41:02 am
BARELY APPEASED. YOU WILL BE SPARED MY WRATH. FOR NOW.
Title: Give me All or give me Nothing
Post by: Enioch on August 31, 2017, 04:06:24 am
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"After the Battle of Korea, the war was essentially over. The Japanese forces in the mainland were left undersupplied and isolated; their surrender, two months later, was inevitable. Tsingtaou was finally avenged and our Eastern holdings were secure."

"This left the Admiralität at the precarious position of having to anticipate what the next big threat would be. We were both hoping and dreading that the time of reckoning - der Tag - was finally here, that we would finally be able to concentrate our efforts towards wrestling dominance of the seas away from the British."

-Großadmiral v. Tirpitz 1920, My Memoirs, London: Hurst & Blackett.

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After the Battle of Korea, the wreck of the Yashima (which had come to rest on a sandbank, only a few metres before the surface) was raised and towed to Tsingtaou. The effects of the German shells on the Japanese armor were studied extensively - this sparked a whole new discussion on improving the penetrative capability of the German shells.

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The Battle of Korea also taught Galster the last lessons he needed to complete his short doctrinal work "Eine Abhandlung über Schlachtkreuzer-Flottenformationen", which remained required reading in the German Naval Academy until 1985.

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Meanwhile, the Japanese raiders sallied out in a last desperate hurrah, against the teeth of the German submarines. The end result was predictable; and the Itsukushima only managed to escape the Hindenburg by burning out her fuel bunkers in a mad dash to neutral Java.

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By December, the Japanese sued for peace once more. The Admiralität objected to the initial suggestions for a white peace; Tirpitz, in particular, clearly stated that, given five more months of submarine warfare, he could starve the Japanese into an unconditional surrender. But von Mecklenburg did not wish to humiliate the Japanese. For one thing, he wished for the situation in the Far East to settle into a low-tension, stable state. Allowing the Japanese to save face was not unreasonable. Also, his prospectors and geologists in Greece were already coming back with very interesting results. There was no true need of annexing Japanese territory.

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He could have asked for oil-rich Borneo. But he chose not to. Establishing and fortifying a new base there would severely impact the German national budget; and Germany could not afford to waste money at this point. Every single spare Mark should be spent preparing for the inevitable day of reckoning. The British had, finally, spent their hand. All their allies had been beaten back, humiliated, brought low into inconsequence. They (and America, but the USA were isolationist and no threat to the Germans) were the last, mighty obstacle standing between Germany and her rightful rule  of the seas; and they had to be met with everything that Germany could bring to bear.

So, von Mecklenburg asks for monetary war reparations, instead; and extends the hand of friendship to defeated Japan.

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The inevitable post-war budget cut hurts the Admiralität sore; but they have stockpiled funds, in anticipation of this moment. They now run a monthly six million Mark deficit; but they keep spending, with wild abandon, waiting for the inevitable moment when the German economy will propell itself out of the post-war slump.

Meanwhile, the R & D department delivers. Improvements to AP shells; experimental elevation gear for the German turret mounts; and improved power-plants for the German torpedoes.

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And more importantly - the first German truly capital-grade weapon. It's a dismal, overweight, underpowered piece of crap, that has Tirpitz and Galster shudder in horror at its performance; but it's the first German-produced 14-inch rifle and it opens the road to the future. And His Majesty the Kaiser attends its test firing with the biggest goofy smile on his face.

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France. No. Stahp. Don't ruin what we had.

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Another interesting development: Germany, through her own insanely effective submarine campaigns, has realised the threat that U-Boote and minefields pose. The Admiralität has ordered a new batch of small yet capable 400-ton gunships for patrol work; they are only armed with three 76mm guns, but they are fast for their size (at 22 knots) and they can outgun any submarine in existence.

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Russia. Do not make us come over there again. If you do, we're burning every ****ing vodka distillery from the Baltic to Kamtchatka to the ground, do you understand?

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Oh mein Gott, das ist ja wunderbar!

Every light cruiser in the German navy immediately hits the drydocks, for the installation of the new, improved turret mounts. Double secondary turrets in capital ships are likewise modified. The costs are considerable, but, essentially overnight, small-caliber rifles in the German navy improve their rate of fire by ten to twenty percent.

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Also, in the framework of the new ASW patrol ships, the R & D department submits designs for truly reliable depth charge fuzes. Oh, y'all are in so much trouble.

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BAM. Ger-money strikes again.

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Well, hello there Frau Zelle, what news do you have from our good neighbours?

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Well-crap. This is a rude awakening. The Frenchies have joined the Schlachtkreuzer race quite late, but this is veryworrying. She is smaller than the Wittelsbachs and carries ten 14-inch rifles. She is also faster than the Wittelsbachs. That said, her belt is butter, especially to the new German AP shells. Estimates show that the Wittelsbachs (and, by extension, the Zähringens, who are using the same guns) can reliably pen her deck and belt from any range up to 17k yards - and German rifles, although smaller, fire faster.

No reason for undue alarm, yet. Plus, France is quite friendly towards us. If we ignore all the spying...

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Whut. Is this some sort of appeasement, Brits? It will not save you. But sure, here's some money. We can always use more underwater protection.

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Ok, what is going on here?

German Military Intelligence is stumped. There is no discernible reason for why the government of the Rt. Hon. H. H. Asquith would be willing to sell these designs to Germany. I mean, yes, tensions are low, but...surely they realise...?

And then the first, unconfirmed news come in. The Brits have laid down a new classified class of Dreadnought, the 'Camperdown'; and they are building it fast. They are trying to scrape the necessary funds together.

Ah. Hmmmmm. Well, that is fine by Germany. If she needs to freeze construction of the Graf Spee for a bit to pay for these designs, that is fine. The two older sisters are less than a year from completion; and Germany can now build modern heavy cruisers, which she will do, with gusto.

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Mein Gott, all the tech.

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Holy crap, Japan. Who the hell is funding this?

This is bigger than the Wittelsbachs, with more guns than the French battlecruiser and four 18-inch torpedo tubes. Not to mention faster than the German battle-line. Again, her belt is butter, but twelve 14-inchers?

Ok, who gave them all this tech?-

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Briiiiiiits....

*mumbling from backstage*

...Goddammit, R & D, we're venting here. What do you want? I swear, this had better be important...

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on August 31, 2017, 04:08:11 am
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I AM APPEASED.

FEED ME, MY FAITHFUL, AND I SHALL BE A KIND AND MERCIFUL LORD.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on August 31, 2017, 08:08:31 am
Oh, AON armor :D I guess you can scrap the Graf Spee now.

Its still interesting how slow gun development ist compared to everything else. In my last game (as Germany) somehow everyone ended up having ok quality 16 inch guns on by this time and then even bigger guns a few years later. At least in your timeline they won't be sailing around effectively unarmored 17/18 inch gun battlecruisers that can be trashed by DD guns...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on August 31, 2017, 08:42:34 am
Did this universe have an alien ship crash on earth that all the nations are salvaging technology from or something? Holy moley does the tech advance fast.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: TwentyPercentCooler on August 31, 2017, 08:17:21 pm
Did this universe have an alien ship crash on earth that all the nations are salvaging technology from or something? Holy moley does the tech advance fast.

Well, the next rebooted XCOM game is clearly going to be Terror From The Deep...
Title: The Java Crisis
Post by: Enioch on September 03, 2017, 08:31:27 am
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- PART 5 -
Wir fahren ge'en Engeland

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"The new experimental designs for the so-called 'All or Nothing' armor schemes were received with limited enthusiasm by the Admiralität. This was such a radical departure from our tried-and-true past designs that were were, perhaps, too cautious in adopting them. But what was, finally, decided, was that the Zähringen and her sisters would be completed as designed; and that a new generation of heavy cruisers would be laid down, to serve as testbeds."

"After all, while the Schlachtkreuzer had proved to be perfectly capable of catching and sinking the Japanese raiding light cruisers, our enemies had only employed old, obsolete designs. The British or French navies operated light cruisers that were easily capable of outrunning our capitals; we needed something capable of safeguarding our merchantmen."

-Vizeadm. Galster K (post mort.) 1956, The Naval Question: Collected Papers and Letters, edited by Dr. Ernst Jablonka, Universitätsverlag Heidelberg.


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Wow, Frau Zelle, you've been busy.

English designs, you say? My, my, don't mind if we do...

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Godverdammt, the Brits are building hard.

The German analysts get cracking on the blueprints. The end conclusions are not encouraging.

First things first: this thing is fast. It has three knots on the Zähringens and it also has a respectable, eleven-and-a-half inch belt. It's no dreadnought, but it's enough to cause our 12-inchers problems at long range. And it will be able to keep our heavy hitters at range, because it's faster and it can dictate the engagement.

And its guns are made for long-range engagements. It cannot dish out the same volume of fire as the Zähringens (not even close), but it is armed with the dreaded British 15-inch rifles. Eight of them. The analysts have no idea what the capabilities of these weapons are, but they are sure to give the Zähringens problems, especially if we're talking about long-range, plunging fire down into the Schlachtkreuzers' two- and three-inch decks.

Finally, the British (unlike the French and Japanese) have fire-control directors.

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On the other hand, there are some good news, too. Firstly: these are medium-sized ships. They are just now under construction and yet they are not significantly bigger than the five-year-old Wittelsbachs. The Zähringens enjoy a considerable tonnage advantage here - they have the displacement to simply absorb more damage than the Sutlejs. Also, the Brits have no Superimposed B turrets. These ships have a decent-to-fearsome broadside, but they will be utter **** in any battle where they will have to pursue their opponent.

And their turrets...

The German analysts are uncertain of whether the blueprints are accurate, here. Germany's own experience has confirmed that weak turret armor is a recipe for turret jams and, potentially, even disastrous magazine hits. The Sutlejs have 10-inch turret front armor, to the Zähringens' 13.5 inches. Is it a mistake? Is it a design feature? A compromise? Do the British know something that the Germans do not?

Or -oh, the utter dread of the idea- do they have some new armor alloy? Something that Germany lacks? How far behind are we!?

This is very, very worrying...

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Well, it's folly to expect to match the British in naval artillery, given the Erzfeind's head start. It makes more sense to invest in a tried-and-true weapon. Ten more modern submarines leave the slipways in February.

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And in April, this. Hah. Well, if we can't match their rifles, we'll surpass them in ammunition quality.

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Three months from completion, the workers have reached the Mackensen's superstructure. It is time to install the fire-control systems. It is worth reminding the reader that the Zähringens were originally designed with Central Firing systems in mind, not Directors; the modifications will take an extra month to complete but that's a no-brainer for Galster and Tirpitz.

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And then, everything goes to ****, very, very quickly.

Java had been a Dutch colonial holding since 1815, when it was ceded back to the Dutch by the British. The Dutch had maintained strict order on the island throughout the 19th century, including bringing a local civil war to a forceful end. Now, on the other hand, with local nationalism gaining roots, a dramatic series of riots shook the island and impacted the foundations of Dutch colonial rule.

The British, seeing an opportunity to re-establish a base of operations in the Far East, on a holding that economically and strategically dominated the Indonesian islands, dispatched a force to 'assist' the Dutch in quelling the riots. Notably, the Dutch had requested no such assistance; and, in some distress, they sought support from the new rising Power in the area: Germany.

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Von Mecklenburg, for once, fully stood behind Kaiser Wilhelm's thunderous polemic against the British interventionism - and this stance fully endeared him to his monarch and solidified his position as Reichskanzler until his death. It took his government less than two days to convene, discuss and come to a conclusion regarding the Java Crisis: following that, an ultimatum was delivered by the German Ambassador to Whitehall, on the 26th of April. The British forces were to be recalled, immediately, and to the satisfaction of the Dutch allies of His Majesty the Kaiser's Government; if orders to that extent had not been given within fourty-eight hours from the time of receipt of the ultimatum, the Ambassador of His Majesty, George V, would no longer be welcome in Berlin and a state of war would be in effect between Germany and the United Kingdom.

An exchanged of surprised and increasingly panicked telegrams from England followed, only to be met with stony, uncompromising determination from von Mecklenburg. Quietly, the German army began mobilising. The Hochseeflotte (the Wittelsbachs having just completed their maintenance cycle after their return from the Far East) made steam and left their harbours.

The world held its collective breath, waiting for the bang.

And then, to the stunned surprise of everyone, on the morning of the 27th of April, the squadron of acting Vice-Admiral Sir David Beatty receives a recall order from the Admiralty. They are to pull away from Java and cease and desist with any operations in the area.

Britannia has backed off.

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Not without a considerable amount of ill will, of course. Von Mecklenburg is very much aware that this cannot be the end of this matter. For the first time in a century, British interventionism has been challenged directly; she cannot allow this challenge to remain unanswered, or she risks losing everything.

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The pace is now frantic. As tensions slowly, slowly bleed off, the Admiralität focuses on completing the Zähringens on time for the inevitable clash. Zähringen herself is close to completion: the workers are now installing her fire Directors.

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No. Stay focused.

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Perfect. This is the last piece of the puzzle that Germany needs right now.

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And this gives her the money necessary to move to the next step of Tirpitz's and Galster's rearmament program.

On the 5th of July, the Mackensen is formally commissioned into the German Navy and departs on her shakedown cruise. She is a behemoth, nearly twenty thousand tons heavier than any other ship afloat. And her mighty bulk in the Baltic makes German morale soar.

Kaiser Wilhelm's constant polemic provides a constant undertone of war-drums, all through these months. His darlings are now ready to carry out his will; he has no more need of the Spionspiel. For the first time in years, he speaks his mind, openly.

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There is some...collateral damage. But nothing too bad...

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Nothing too bad....?

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Goddammit, Wilhelm, we're trying to fight the British here. Stop trying to bring the entire world down on our heads!

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Meanwhile, it's time for some changes. With Mackensen operational, funds are released for the construction of a flotilla of twelve Zerstörer, bigger and faster than anything Germany had built before. They displaced eleven hundred tons and were armed with three centreline 100mm guns. They also carried four torpedo tubes, in double launchers, a significant innovation in the German Navy.

Perhaps more significantly, they each carried dual-purpose mine rails, able to both lay mines and launch the new German depth-charges, when called upon to perform ASW duties.

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Germany also lays down two next-generation heavy cruisers, unlike anything the world has ever seen before. They are the pioneers of the All-or-Nothing armor scheme, with underwater protection to rival the Zähringens and a blistering top speed of 32 knots - almost enough to keep up with the Zerstörer flotillas and certainly enough to catch up with any light cruiser in existence. They carry a 5-inch belt, enough to bounce 6-inch shells with ease; a 2-inch, splinter-proof deck; modern fire-Directors. And, more importantly, they carry twelve 9-inch rifles, mounted in four triple turrets. There is no light or heavy cruiser in the world that can stand against such armament.

These are the raider-killers of the German Navy. These are the ships that are too fast to be countered by enemy capitals and too powerful for any light cruiser to have a chance against them. There is no compromise here (except, perhaps, the anemic turret armor): the Prinz Heinrich and the Freya are built to be the worth successors of Hertha and her sisters.

They are also bloody massive. At nearly 17k tons, they are bigger than most pre-dreadnought battleships. But Galster can't help but drool when studying their blueprints.

And then, Frau Zelle comes along with her newest scoop, this time from the Italians. And Military Intelligence finally figures out what the Brits have been planning to hurt Germany.

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**** you, Brits. No, really, **** you.

The Italian battlecruiser is an almost exact copy of the Japanese one, down to the shape of her superstructure. 'Parallel development' my ass.

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Ooooohkayyy.

There's a brief discussion in the Admiralität regarding how to best counter these beasts. Experimental designs of quadruple turrets are put forwards. This would mean that the successors to the Zähringens would be able to carry...oh...twenty-four 12-inch rifles.

But the Admirals are not impressed by the complicated blueprints. Too liable to jam or break in combat situations. And, frankly, Germany needs to focus on upping her gun calibers. Scattershot is useful, but only up to a degree...

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Yeeeeees.

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And then, Russia pokes the Baltic states again; and the Kaiser, now in full anti-British mode, makes a very ill-advised comment towards the Russians and their potential being in the pocket of the British.

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Von Mecklenburg scrambles for damage control - but it's too little, too late. Tensions with Russia spike once more.

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Von Mecklenburg is pulling out what little hair he has left - chances are now very high that Germany will have to deal with a war on two fronts. Or even worse - that the next war will be another delaying affair with Russia, while the Brits build up their forces even further. But Tirpitz and Galster come to his aid. In a joint effort with the Navy League, Krupp and most of the large shipbuilding industries of Germany, they push for a raise in the Naval budget - and are not discreet at all about whom they consider to be Germany's next enemy.

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As we enter 1916, the British Foreign Secretary fires back a formal protest; and tensions with Albion spike again. It's now a close race between The Brits and the Russians, with a very real danger of a tripartite war...

Meanwhile, Tirpitz uses his increased funding to refurbish all the old Piepers. It'll take less than two months - a safe enough margin.

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****ING HELL, BISMARCK WAS RIGHT.

KILL THE LEFT. KILL IT WITH FIRE AND STEEL. KEEP THAT **** OUT OF THE NAVY.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 03, 2017, 08:39:08 am
#MGGA

Yes, the Prinz Heinrich has a heavier weight of fire than any T10 cruiser in WoWs, in 1916.

This is fair and balanced, and those turrets with 3-inch facing armor will certainly not bite us in the ass, nosiree.

Also note that the P.H.-class has half the OTL Iowas s.h.p. rating, on less than half her displacement, while still burning coal.

Topkek.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 03, 2017, 09:13:40 am
[Excerpt from: "The Triangle Ships" by Ian McDonough, published 2009]

[...]
Britain then started a new strategy. It was painfully obvious to the Royal Navy that the germans had qualitative advantages; not quantitative, perhaps, but on a ship-for-ship basis, the new construction Germany was going to complete soon was vastly superior to what the british shipyards were able to produce. After the conclusion of the Japan crisis, however, Britain was able to find new friends there. The IJN quickly determined that the years of stagnation they were suffering under would have to end if Japan was to reclaim her rightful place as the preeminent power in Asia, and they were thus receptive when the british ambassador approached them with a novel plan. Back at the turn of the century, he pointed out, Britain was the world's shipyard: Almost everyone either contracted with british yards directly to build their capital ships, or had consulted with british designers on their homegrown designs. While the germans were able and willing to pour money into their research establishments, nations like Japan with an empire to administer couldn't match them in that regard, but what if we collaborated in order to curb the german threat?

Soon thereafter, secret agreements were drawn up. Design teams from the UK and Japan started to work on a new capital ship design, accomplishing together what had eluded them separately: Come up with a design that would certainly give the germans pause. The parameters for the design were: 1. Enough speed to dictate the terms of any engagement with the german battleline, 2. Enough firepower to punch through the german armor at range and finally 3. Enough weight of fire to guarantee hits even taking into account the less advanced fire control technology available to them.

The design was so successful that it was even offered to the Italians, who jumped at the chance to rebuild their Navy. As a result, analysts all over the globe were suddenly scratching their heads when they compared their notes and discovered that, apart from a few cosmetic differences (the italians put the captain's cabin on starboard, the japanese to port), the italian Amalfis and japanese Kuramas were identical. While it didn't take long for the truth to come out, this sort of arrangement was unprecedented: Three nations, collaborating on the design for their most prestigious weapons, without even a hint of formal treaties.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 03, 2017, 10:01:08 am
...Wow, you write fast.

I...I mean- I AM APPEASED. THIS IS A SATISFACTORY OFFERING.

<3
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 03, 2017, 10:58:15 am
Also note that the P.H.-class has half the OTL Iowas s.h.p. rating, on less than half her displacement, while still burning coal.

Are you sure it's coal they're burning? Cos it might be they're actually running nuclear power plants in there.....
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scotty on September 03, 2017, 11:11:35 am
I have a bad feeling that there's going to be a treaty coming up limiting ships to 35k tons.  Because that seems like the thing that would utterly **** everything you've been doing, and RNGesus does not appreciate win streaks.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 03, 2017, 11:23:36 am
Also note that the P.H.-class has half the OTL Iowas s.h.p. rating, on less than half her displacement, while still burning coal.

Are you sure it's coal they're burning? Cos it might be they're actually running nuclear power plants in there.....

Why...no. Of course not. No Wunderwaffen to see here. Move along.

Move along...

I have a bad feeling that there's going to be a treaty coming up limiting ships to 35k tons.  Because that seems like the thing that would utterly **** everything you've been doing, and RNGesus does not appreciate win streaks.

Well, I can neither confirm nor deny that this will happen. If it does, however, consider the following:


International diplomacy will not save you, Brits... :drevil:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Col. Fishguts on September 03, 2017, 04:52:31 pm
#MGGA

Yes, the Prinz Heinrich has a heavier weight of fire than any T10 cruiser in WoWs, in 1916.

I was about to mention that your CA design looks suspiciously like Hindenburg.
Looking forward to see how they hold up in combat ;)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 04, 2017, 07:40:52 am
Is there any point to giving destroyers, torpedo belts? Or would a single decent sized torpedo be the end of a DD regardless of a layer of fat?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 04, 2017, 08:09:36 am
In RL, Destroyers hit by torps are straight dead. A good torpedo defense requires multiple hulls, compartmentalization, and enough structural strength to cope with massive amounts of flexing; Destroyers simply don't have the room for those.

That being said, DDs are also fast and maneuverable enough that they are almost impossible to hit even with guided torpedoes (assuming, of course, that the DD skipper does a minimum amount of evasive maneuvering).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 04, 2017, 08:31:25 am
Yes, but this aint real life. Thus I wonder

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 04, 2017, 08:38:24 am
Sadly, what The_E said.

It is theoretically possible to equip a DD with a torpedo belt, but the DD has just too little displacement. A torp would blow up the hull with BOTH its belts easily.

Might as well use the hundreds of tons to add more guns, torps or horsepower.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 04, 2017, 09:19:19 am
Clearly the answer is to make bigger destroyers then :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 04, 2017, 09:35:38 am
Sadly, anything above 1.5k tons is auto-classified as a light cruiser.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 04, 2017, 09:54:47 am
But then how is russia going to make Khabarovsk's???

Could you in theory, just bumrush/zergrush any enemy fleet with a mass of speedy destroyers packed with torpedo mounts, and accept that you'll lose a bunch each battle? But still come out victorious each engagement? Or will the A.I. start designing ships that counter DD's too hard after a while?

Also was not claiming the colony that had oil, after the most recent war with ninippon, really worth the extra bit of war reparation money? Oil boilers seem like they're one of the most significant technological advancements.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 04, 2017, 10:26:41 am
In order:

1.  :lol:  This is a balanced game. We're not talking Wargaming products here...

2. Yes. You 've pretty much described the most balls to the wall  jeune ecole tactic in the game. Quite viable, especially in the early game as France, Japan, Italy and Russia

3. In hindsight, yes. Everybody gets oil at 1920 anyway, and this game is long enough that investing in home territory gains (via reparations)  instead of picking up colonies paid off.

At the time,  no. Totally wrong move. I asked for the reparations before really thinking things through. And remembering why I was fighting the war in the first place. :nervous: :banghead:

Blame KFW,  amirite?  ;)
Title: Bismarck / Denn wir Fahren...
Post by: Enioch on September 05, 2017, 07:44:54 am
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"You will be home before the leaves fall from the trees."

-Kaiser Wilhelm II, addressing German soldiers departing for the front in May 1917.

"The British came in thinking of a very different kind of war. British wars were long, they were economic and they resulted in the bankruptcy of the enemy. German wars are short, brutal and end up with marching parades in foreign capitals."

"THE BATTLE OF LERWICK 03 - 04 OCT 1917" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l427CERpUgU&t=12m14s) by Prof. Andrew Lambert 23 May 2016.

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February, 1916. The first refurbished Piepers leave the slipways. If nothing else, Germany will be able to patrol her coastlines.

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And she might need to do so, more quickly than she had expected. On the 17th of the month, Hamburg runs aground off the coast of Belgium. She had been transporting Intelligence operatives on a nighttime drop-off meant for Britain. Timing could not have been worse.

At this point, von Mecklenburg does not have the option of tiptoeing around the matter. The recent German ultimatum against Britain does not allow her to take a less hard-line stance against a lesser Power. Goeben and Moltke are dispatched to escort the German cruiser and make sure the Belgians release her promptly.

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This, of course, pisses off a lot of people.

The Belgians release the ship, but under considerable protest; and they are backed by their allies. The British deploy a couple of Australia-class battlecruisers to ominously shadow the German task force; and their Foreign Secretary states that Britain will safeguard Belgian independence. France - it seems so long ago she was an ally - now condemns the German policy. And Russia parrots the British, decrying German bullying from the rooftops.

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In this climate of uncertainty, the R & D department submits several experimental designs of new torpedo stabilisation systems, but nothing concrete yet...

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And, in a move that sets the Admiralität on edge, Great Britain begins mobilising their Grand Fleet, de-mothballing their reserve ships and stepping up their training regimen. The Germans respond by similar escalation. Germany has no fleet in reserve (all her capitals are in permanent active duty), but she can step up her training.

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Training pays off. During live-fire exercises, the German gunners pioneer a new range-refining technique: "ladder firing", in which a ship would rapidly fire a succession of ranging shots, 'walking' her fire onto the target through regular, incremental adjustments.

Somehow, the results of the exercises find their way to the British. There are some scrambling attempts to lower tensions and buy for time (possibly to allow the Grand Fleet to catch up)...

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...until the news from Rhodes reaches the European markets.

Rhodes is a German naval base and fortress, granted to them by the Greek government, after their assistance in the Balkan Wars. German prospectors have been combing the island for years - and their work has finally paid off, with the discovery of the biggest known oil field in the Eastern Mediterranean. A deal is struck with the Greek government, that will see joint drilling and exploitation of the fields for the next ninety-nine years. The German stock market soars overnight - and, in response, British oil stocks drop by an estimated 5% within a week, as their monopolies are shaken to the core.

The party in the Admiralität lasts until the early hours of the morning. The German fleet now has a secure source of oil. It is tricky to transport it through friendly Greece and the Austro-Hungarian Balkans, but it is possible; and Germany can now start stockpiling black gold of her own production.

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The Brits, on the other hand, do not appreciate this.

Perfect.

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In July 1916, while tensions with Russia are somewhat falling, Frau Zelle provides us with a further confirmation that the so-called "Triangle Ships" are the product of British meddling. Compare the Kuramas and Amalfis with the new, purely Japanese-built Hieis. The Japanese have upgraded to 21-inch torpedoes, but their main battery has regressed to a 12-inch caliber. They were clearly getting their 14-inch guns from somewhere, or they'd be building more Kuramas, which are objectively better ships. Whoever their supplier was, now they can't keep up with Japanese demand and the Japanese have to return to their 12-inch, homebuilt rifles. Interesting coincidence that, with tensions rising, British industry is now solely focused on providing their own Navy with ordnance and weapons...

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Oh ho ho. Germans now have a knowledge of applied hydrodynamics. Can anyone say 'Atlantikbug'?

Time for a new generation of German ships, the Admiralität decides.

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First, let's honour Unseren Bismarck, shall we?

The Fürst Bismarck, and her sister, Wettin, are experimental ships. They are the first 'big gun' German Dreadnoughts. They are a compromise design, and Tirpitz does not have high hopes that they will perform as good as the engineers claim they will; but they will help apply the new technologies that Germany has developed for the first time, reveal problems and serve as stepping-stones for something better.

The service record of these ships was nothing spectacular, especially compared to their younger siblings. But they are known to all naval enthusiasts world-wide, for being the first German 'unsinkables', as the concept came to be known later on.

The Bismarck and the Wettin were smaller than the Zähringens, with a relatively tame battery of twelve 14-inch rifles in triple turrets. These were the rather underpowered German 14-inchers of the mid-1910s, but their performance was satisfactory, especially in close range.

And these ships were built to close the range, in the cramped waters of the Baltic, the North Sea and the Mediterranean. They were All-or-Nothing, and the first German capitals to burn oil; this, in conjunction with the limited artillery, and the new hydrodynamic Atlantic-bow designs, released a staggering amount of tonnage for armor, while not compromising the standard 25-knot flank speed.

And now, we come to the main selling point of these behemoths. A 430mm thick belt (almost half a metre of German steel) protected the vitals of the ship, complemented by a 76mm deck (more than enough for the close-range brawling these ships were meant to engage in). The turrets, likewise, had a 430mm facing, with a 100mm roof.

Add to that a state-of-the art torpedo belt, comparable to that of the Zähringens, and a secondary battery of 14 100mm guns, and the Bismarcks would cast a very threatening shadow indeed. Their job, was to wade in and engage British Dreads at around 10k yards, where their massive belts would tip the balance, while putting accurate, Director-controlled fire into their enemies.

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Construction begins on the Bismarck, with a massive downpayment of ten million Reichsmarken; the Wettin is laid down, but construction is frozen until the Graf Spee is completed, seven months from now.

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And, as the work moves forward, R & D is already experimenting with new armor alloys, for the next generation of heavy Dreadnoughts.

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Great Britain responds with a considerable increase to their naval budget - they also scrap several older ships, while focusing primarily on a new batch of coastal patrol vessels.

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R & D proposes a new generatin of fifteen-hundred ton Zerstörer, to counter these vessels. And to accompany the Bismarcks once they leave the slipways. These ships are still a ways away; but they're an option.

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The urgency, now, is palpable, throughout the Reich. It's December, and the German dockyards do not sleep. The works have reached the Graf Spee's superstructure, and the installation of her central Directors has now begun. She's less than four months away from commissioning.

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And then, in February, Frau Zelle arrives from London, with the biggest scoop of her career yet. The blueprints for the new British reduction gear system.

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Unfortunately, she is not as discreet as she would have liked to be. In April, the British find out about the leak - and this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Angry words of protest are exchanged; ultimatums are rendered; and, seemingly overnight, with the rest of Europe staring in horror, Great Britain and Germany are both in the midst of a full-scale mobilisation.

War is declared on the 13th of May; the Hochseeflotte is already at sea, with Galster in command.

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Heute ist der Tag!


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 05, 2017, 07:46:54 am
...DENN WIR FAHREN / DENN WIR FAHREN / GEGEN ENGELAND / ENGELAND!

LONG LIVE KAISER ****ING WILHELM .
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 05, 2017, 08:45:49 am
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"Raise high the black flags, my children!"
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on September 05, 2017, 09:02:40 am
I'd like to point out that "Pieper" is, in the flemish accent, a spud.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 05, 2017, 09:07:28 am
So the class of German minesweepers are called "glorious spuds" ('August Pieper')?

Yup. That seems about right. Pass the Kartoffelsalat, Fritz! :lol:

Or perhaps you mean the other meaning of spud? As in preadolescent, balls-not-yet-dropped? Cause that would fit these tiny wonders too... :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on September 05, 2017, 12:14:17 pm
It's the former, although yes, the latter would fit too :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 05, 2017, 01:31:57 pm
[From: "Ganz oder garnicht: Capital ship design of the 1920s" by Ian McDonough, Kiel University Publications, 2014]

Chapter 2
The Pioneers -  Prinz Heinrich and Fürst Bismarck

As tensions between Germany and the UK rose, it became clear to Galster and Tirpitz that the german cruiser fleet, as feared as it was, could not be expected to be refitted ad infinitum. Ships like Hertha and Frauenlob, endowed with a fearsome reputation of tenacity and effectiveness, were certainly still capable of giving an enemy pause, but it became increasingly clear that these ships were starting to live on their reputation alone. The breakneck pace of development certainly didn't pass these ships, and so the Prinz Heinrich was born.

It is difficult to underestimate the impact this ship had. The sheer amount of new and revolutionary technologies involved in its construction was unprecedented, however, this was expected by everyone. What wasn't expected, and what didn't become known to Germany's many enemies until months later, was that its design process was also a departure from established german practices, in terms of impact about as profound as the Dreadnought scheme was almost 20 years earlier.
Traditionally, ship design was done in distinct stages: First, the basic hull form and armament was decided, then engines were planned, until at the very end of the process, the armor scheme was decided. This resulted in armor schemes that, more often than not, were studies in creative compromising; to simplify things, designers would often choose on a uniform type of armor for the entire belt and other sections of the ship.
On Prinz Heinrich, armor was one of the first considerations. As a result, she ended up with very thick plating over her vital areas, such as the engine, control spaces and magazines, but virtually no armor over spaces which were not critical to the ship's mission. This, in turn, enabled the designers to make her faster, more survivable, and more hard-hitting than any cruiser had any right to be.

It didn't take long, then, for reports from the builders to filter back to the Admiralität once construction had begun in earnest. In August of 1916, plans for the next generation of german Battleships were finalized, also utilizing the new methodologies Prinz Heinrich had pioneered. The Fürst Bismarck class was built to run up to the british battleline, take any punches she may have to, and then end the battle permanently and with overwhelming force courtesy of her 14 inch rifles firing a new round which itself incorporated all the lessons that german weapon designers had learned examining the remains of russian and japanese ships.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 05, 2017, 02:29:24 pm
[snip]
"Raise high the black flags, my children!"

Wrong enemy, there. :p

Other snip

Goddammit.

<3

By the end of this I'll be owing you an entire bloody novel, The_E. :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 05, 2017, 02:59:58 pm
[snip]
"Raise high the black flags, my children!"

Wrong enemy, there. :p


He was really looking to have a go at Wellington, Bonnie just happened to be in the way  :P
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on September 05, 2017, 05:34:20 pm
Why no zone of hell/secondaries for the Bismarck?




The E -- I fixed your youtube link. Remember that only the video ID goes between the yt tags, not the complete yt url

Actually, are you sure the video ID is correct?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 01:39:09 am

[...]Add to that a state-of-the art torpedo belt, comparable to that of the Zähringens, and a secondary battery of 14 100mm guns[...]

I did mention her secondaries.... She has an Akizuki strapped to every side.

Problem is that the game doesn't render 4-inch guns and lower in capital ships, so that's why you can't see them in the deck plan.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on September 06, 2017, 04:39:50 am
The E -- I fixed your youtube link. Remember that only the video ID goes between the yt tags, not the complete yt url

Actually, are you sure the video ID is correct?

My bad, I think I fixed it.

Considering Bismarcks secondaries:

Excuse me, I was hyped and played Xcom2 - War of the Chosen while reading this.
Is there a limit to secondary guns for calibre and number of guns?
Or if you have enough tonnage, can you slap four dual big calibre turrets and a ****ton of secondaries on a ship?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 04:48:03 am
I've never hit a limit to secondary guns on my ships so far, but admittedly, I've never pushed the limits.

The only rule that I know of is that secondary guns must be of a lower caliber than main guns (so a ship with 14 inch main batteries can have a 13-inch secondary battery, kek) and that they are aimed with iron sights (so they are really inaccurate) until you discover secondary directors.

And tertiaries need to be smaller than secondaries and they are always aimed with iron sights.
Title: The Battle of Ireland
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 05:27:16 am
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Berlin, May 16, 1917

During their return to Home Waters, the Schlachtkreuzer Derrflinger and Wittelsbach of our Hochseeflotte on May 15th, encountered a large English convoy, escorted by two Battlecruisers and a screen of light forces

During the afternoon, to the south of Ireland and west of Wales, a heavy engagement developed, which was successful to us.

In this engagement, so far as known up to the present [...]

-First Official German Statement on the Battle of Ireland, 16 May 1917

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It is just before noon, on a cloudy, miserable 16th of May, 1917. We find ourselves on the Celtic Sea, nearly ninety miles south of Cork, where the dreaded British weather reigns supreme.

The two German Schlachtkreuzer Wittelsbach and Derfflinger are returning to home waters. They have been patroling the northern Atlantic; with the declaration of war they now seek to rejoin the main fleet.

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In command of the task force is a young audacious commander, Konteradmiral Franz von Hipper. His flag is on the Wittelsbach and, despite Admiralität orders to the contrary, he's looking for a fight. He has taken advantage of the cloudy weather, the fog and the constant drizzle to sneak into British-controlled waters; and his lookouts are looking for targets of opportunity.

And he finds them, when, from out of the fog and rain, his lookouts make out the masts of a small British convoy, less than five thousand yards to the north-east.

Hipper's task force comes to action stations and charges.

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Hipper hooks around from the north, using his superior speed to cut the merchantmen off from the safety of the mainland. He has three Zerstörer, which he immediately dispatches to hunt down the fat convoy ships; and he is also escorted by the old scout cruiser Frauenlob, a veteran of three wars, whom he orders to stay behind and watch his back. The Wittelsbach and Derfflinger follow the Zerstörer into the slaughter.

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And it is a slaughter.

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But then, less than an hour after first contact, and with the burning hulks of the convoy still drifting around them, castaways crying for help and being picked up by the Zerstörer crews, the fog lifts and the rain stops.

And Frauenlob signals High Alert, for less than ten thousand yards away to the north, there is a British battlecruiser squadron closing in.

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The veteran lookouts on the scout cruiser do not take much time to identify the newcomers. Leading the squadron is a New Zealand-class battlecruiser, of the type that the British like to call 'pocket battlecruisers'. They are small, displacing only half what the Wittelsbachs do, and with a paper-thin belt; but they are armed with eight 14-inchers and they can do 26 knots. Underestimating her could be fatal - and Hipper needs to safeguard his ships, for the dangerous return trip through the North Sea.

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The second ship is a de-mothballed Indomitable, the oldest class of battlecruisers operated by the British. This one is, essentially, a non-entity, although her 13-inchers can still hurt, if Hipper gives them the opportunity.

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Hipper vaccilates; and then he frowns and orders the Schlachtkreuzer to close with the enemy. He has more guns, he has veteran crews and he's willing to gamble that the weather will permit him to conceal his approach through the Northern Sea, even if his ships are damaged.

"Schlachtkreuzer, ran an den Feind, voll einsetzen!"

He engages pursuit, taking advantage of the quickly roughening seas to close the range. His larger ships are more stable gun platforms in the high winds, as the Indomitable quickly finds out. Derfflinger weaves through a spread of torpedoes fired by the battlecruisers' destroyer screen; and scores a hit on her from a range of around seven thousand yards. Wittelsbach, having received no attention from the enemy destroyers yet, has the time for a more precise targeting solution. Three 12-inch shells slam into the Indomitable's belt.

An angled 6-inch belt might have been barely capable of resisting such fire ten, or even five, years ago. But these are not the 12-inch shells fired by the German battleships in Bornholm. These are German high-velocity, capped AP shells, designed to pierce layered inclined armor. The old British battlecruiser shudders under the impacts, and her armor peels off like the top of a sardine can.

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And then her engines fall silent, followed by her guns. It's less than thirty minutes since the Frauenlob spotted the enemy.

The Germans do not know what has happened on the ship. They do not know that this is the name ship of her class, HMS Indomitable herself. They do not know that one of the Wittelsbach's shells has punched clean through her conning tower, killing all command personnel therein. All they know is that the ship has not struck her colours; and that her secondaries are still firing sporadically at the closing Zerstörer.

And so, Derfflinger takes aim at the wreck and fires one finishing salvo at her.

One of her shells falls short, but close enough to strike the ship beneath the waterline. It penetrates its paper-thin underwater armor, buries itself deep into Turret A's cordite magazines; and explodes, taking the magazine with it.

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The turret pops off like a cork, flying dozens of feet into the air. The ship's hull ballons out, rippling as the shockwave propagates; and then the entire bow of the ship turns into matchwood, a cloud of splinters dropping like rain onto the Schlachtkreuzer. What's left of the Indomitable rolls over, slowly, and sinks. Of her crew of 750, there are no survivors.

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The thunderous explosion stuns all; but Hipper, now enjoying a considerable gunnery advantage over the British drives his ships ever onwards. The New Zealand runs towards the north. Less than ten thousand yards behind her, the German Schlachtkreuzer continue their pursuit.

British fire brackets the Wittelsbach and a single 14-inch shell strikes her belt. Spalling splinters cut down eight crewmen, but the belt holds. In return, the Wittelsbach punches two 12-inch shells into the Brit's aft, while the Derfflinger rakes her superstructure with 5-inch high-explosive from her secondaries.

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The above statement may have given you the impression that the German ships have not been harmed. That could not be farther away from the truth. Derfflinger has only suffered superficial damage, true; but, during the entire exchange with the Indomitable, the Wittelsbach has been the sole focus of the New Zealand. And British gunnery, while not particularly accurate, is rapid (more rapid than it has any right to be, really, muses Hipper) and effective. Wittelsbach has been hit 12 times by the New Zealand's 14-inch guns, and 3 more times by her secondaries. Nine of these hits have penetrated her armor and superstructure and have caused considerable damage. Her X turret is jammed on her bearings; her forward compartments are flooded; her forward funnel has toppled and her portside superstructure is a mass of glowing metal. There is a small leak, somewhere in the fore and port compartments, that is still admitting water into the engineering spaces - Wittelsbach cannot make more than 20 knots - but the high seas limit her to 18 knots anyway.

But her superiority over her opponent, even now, cannot be denied. She has fired more than three hundred shells at her enemies; and scored just under thirty hits so far; her firing control stations are still operational and her crew are still eager and fighting; her magazines still have more than five hundred rounds available.

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She bears down on the fleeing New Zealand like a bat out of Hell; and her angled armor is, now, more than enough to defeat the Brit's fire. Over the course of fifteen minutes, she bounces two British shells on her main belt and deck armor; and, in return, the two Schlachtkreuzer pump seven main battery hits into the Brit's 7-inch belt.

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As the German ships turn to present their entire broadside, another accurate shot from the New Zealand penetrates the Wittelsbach's belt. She has lost half of her reserve buoyancy and is crawling along at a max speed of 19 knots...

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But the Brit is, finally dead, her guns silenced by a broadside from the Derfflinger.

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The G8 puts a torpedo in her for good measure.

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And then, finally, with night falling, the battle is over. The damcon crews of Wittelsbach manage to stop the flooding and her pumps begin the arduous task of restoring some of her buoyancy. She will need it, for the perilous trip past the alert British garrisons at Scapa Flow.

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But she succeeds. On the morning of the 18th of May, the two Schlachtkreuzer crawl into the harbour of Heligoland, having fended off two destroyer attacks and having snuck past a British Dreadnought squadron north of Scotland, in the twilight hours. Hipper is received as a hero.

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The forthcoming statements by the British Admiralty help identify the New Zealand-class. She was the HMS Tiger, the second oldest of her class. The British also lost the destroyer HMS Larne to flooding, during the light forces' retreat towards Ireland.

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As always, many thanks to the Admiralitätsarchiv for granting us permission to reproduce their archived maps and navigation charts. For reference, that's the coast of Ireland to the north; the land installation marked by a blue flag is Baltimore.

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What a victory!

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The Admiralität, of course, do not rest on their laurels. There are celebrations, of course; but the Piepers, now ready for action, leave their berths and begin their patrols. Germany now has eyes all over the Baltic and well into the North Sea.

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The news of the Battle of Ireland are complemented by good news from the R & D departments as well. Having established that Director firing is the way forward, R & D presents the Admiralität with secondary director systems. Miniaturised enough to be fitted to light ships or take control of capital ships' secondaries, these gadgets will prove really useful. Of course, there's no way the Admiralität is pulling ships out of the line to be refitted at this point. Not with the Grand Fleet juggernaut rolling down on Germany.

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This, on the other hand, is always welcome.

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And then, at the end of the month, reports start coming in from the U-Bootflotte. First U-137, that sinks the HMS Robert Brown with an opportunistic torpedo.

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Then U-109, that outright surfaces and engages the HMS Sabia in a gun duel, sending the British minesweeper to the bottom with her heavy 100mm deck gun.

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And then the actual merchantmen sinking reports come in and the Admiralität cannot believe their eyes.

Thirty-three ships. More than Two hundred and fifty thousand tons of shipping. That's 250,000. A quarter million. In one month.

True, the British depended on merchant shipping more than any other nation in the world and their merchant marine was massive. True, the German submarines operated without restrictions in the 'War Zone' that the Germans had declared as valid hunting grounds around the British Isles. True, there was a lot of international outrage about the 'cowardly' use of the U-Boat to this extent (although, it had to be noted, nobody had complained when the Germans had employed similar tacticcs against the 'barbaric' Japanese).

But still. A quarter million tons of merchantmen.

Essentially overnight, the German Admiralität had demonstrated that the day of the surface raider was well and truly past. Cry about the unfairness of it as much as you like, Albion; you will find no sympathy here.

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British propaganda poster, June 1917

As expected, the Grand Fleet immediately proceeds to blockade Germany, plugging the passes to the northern Atlantic and stopping all commerce to German harbours.

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Germany is unimpressed. One month into this war, it is not the Germans who are hungry.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 05:28:28 am
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR BLOODY SHIPS TODAY, BRITS.

BETTER LOOK INTO THAT.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 06, 2017, 06:07:51 am
The war with the brits is on, at last, and what a way to kick the war off.

The Russians, amusingly, being all bark and no bite. They sure seemed to have backed off fast.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 06:12:15 am
The Russian Navy has been trashed, twice now. They have nothing that can stand against the Wittelsbachs, let alone the Zaehringens. And their budget is abysmal, after two lost wars and reparations being paid.

The only thing the Russian fleet can contribute at this point is a minuscule tonnage addition to the British blockade; and that comes with the risk of exposing what little force they have to the Hochseeflotte.

Plus, remember that this is not a land war for Germany, with the exception of the colonies. France has not yet declared, either way. If the Russians declare war, there is nothing to prevent the Germans from mobilising their entire army on the eastern front and kicking their asses all the way to Moscow.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 06, 2017, 06:48:40 am
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR BLOODY SHIPS TODAY, BRITS.

BETTER LOOK INTO THAT.

Oh dear, did they once again abandon proper ammo handling to get a small increase in firerate?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 06:50:34 am
THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR BLOODY SHIPS TODAY, BRITS.

BETTER LOOK INTO THAT.

Oh dear, did they once again abandon proper ammo handling to get a small increase in firerate?

Surely not...  :drevil:  :lol:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on September 06, 2017, 07:38:42 am
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The role of submarines in the modern navy

It is true, especially after the latest victory of Hipper off the coast of Ireland that the kaiserliche Marine can stand against the British grand fleet.
But while naval high command refuses to engage in a decisive battle, the U-Boote must play their part.
And by god, what a part this is.
If the Hochseeflotte are the sword and shield of the German Empire, knights in shining armor protecting the Vaterland, then what about the U-Boot Flotte.
I have long argued that the development of submarines has pushed these boats into a role, which they could even better fulfill.
Our boats close in on enemy freighters submerged, but they cannot engage them that way.
They need to resurface and fight that way.
Granted, a 100mm cannon is great for sending freighters to the bottom, but this is an unnecessary risk.
If the Hochseeflotte are knights, the the U-Boot Flotte are assassins. They are the blade in the darkness, ambushing unsuspecting freighters and retreating.
One month into the war Konteradmiral Hippers force of three Zerstörer and two Schlachtkreuzer have sunk 8 merchantmen, one Zerstörer and two Schlachtkreuzer, all the while the U-Boot assassins have claimed 33 confirmed kills, while only losing two of our own.
As it stands, everyone should have realized by now, that the Hochseeflotte is not the undisputed king of naval warfare.
The Admiralität on both sides refuse to risk their shiny big ships, for the affection they hold with the population.
But while both navies continue to circle each other, the boats of the U-Boot Flotte continues to starve the British Isles.
The Admiralität should take heed and invest into true submarines, ships that can attack their targets submerged, not with a 100mm gun, but with torpedos.

All the while I have forwarded a petition to the Reichstag honoring the brave submariners with a monument. It is high time the get the respect they deserve. To quote a popular saying:
“Und Gott fragte die Steine: Wollt ihr U-Boot-Fahrer sein? Und die Steine antworteten: Nein, wir sind nicht hart genug.“

Christopher Schulz
Reichstag respresantative of Hesse
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 06, 2017, 09:13:18 am
<3

Is this:

“Und Gott fragte die Steine: Wollt ihr U-Boot-Fahrer sein? Und die Steine antworteten: Nein, wir sind nicht hart genug.“

an actual quote of something? Because it's badass as all hell.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on September 06, 2017, 09:45:03 am
Well, I heard it as outro in a documentary about submariners, but honestly, I don't know.
Using Google it seems to be quite a standard thing for all kind of things.
I read it with tanks, local groups of people etc.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 06, 2017, 10:42:24 am
[From the Admiralitätsarchiv, a briefing by Admiral Tirpitz for the Admiralty staff]

Gentlemen,

As you are aware, when we recalled Vice Admiral Hipper and his Schlachtgeschwader, I gave explicit orders that he is to reach german harbours while doing his utmost to evade british patrols and avoid battle. He chose not to follow these orders, and instead went on a little hunt.
In a lesser officer, this would have been grounds for immediate dismissal. However, through his actions, he has reminded us all that, if we are to be victorious in this war, we must not just be brave, not just be aggressive, not just be willing to roll the dice and see our decisions through to the end: We must be willing to do all this, at once, and pair it with the skills and smarts we have developed over the past 18 years.

The british know this. By sinking HMS Indomitable and HMS Tiger and their charges, we have asserted our ability and willingness to challenge the Royal Navy in its home waters and not only emerge victorious, but so utterly dominant that they dare not strike back at us. We have the initiative in this war, and it is vital that we do not relinquish it.

We have not beaten the brits yet. Right now, the fate of our fleet, and Germany's fate with it, still hangs by a thread. But if we can embrace what Admiral Hipper has done, if we can avoid getting suckered into an endless game of reacting to what the british are doing and instead make them react to us, we will win. This will not be easy; if any of you still believe it will be, I invite you to go over the yard's report on the damages Derfflinger and Wittelsbach have suffered while bringing us this victory. But a victory handed to you is no victory, as we all know. We know it will be hard, we know it will be painful, but in the end, as we have always done, we will emerge victorious.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: TwentyPercentCooler on September 06, 2017, 04:04:40 pm
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"It penetrates its paper-thin underwater armor, buries itself deep into Turret A's cordite magazines; and explodes, taking the magazine with it."

Carrying on the proud tradition of British battlecruisers, even in an alternate history.  :wtf:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: CKid on September 06, 2017, 04:18:55 pm
+1 for adding the detonation badge.
Title: The Raid of the Celtic Sea
Post by: Enioch on September 09, 2017, 09:08:50 am
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"Steel and Blood has freed our Vaterland of foreign rule. Steel and Blood brought about the unification of our Reich. And it is with Steel and Blood that we now stand, united, against our greatest challenge yet."

Stand beside us, united and strong, and prove yourselves worthy of our heroes on the High Seas!"


-Excerpt of a speech of the Reichskanzler Johann Albrecht Herzog zu Mecklenburg to the Reichstag, 15 June 1917.

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It is the 9th of June 1917. The HMS Tribune and HMS Sappho, two ultra-light minelaying cruisers of the Royal Navy, less than two years old, are escorting a nine-ship convoy from South Africa to Portsmuth. The time is 18:11 and sunset is less than two hours away. The crews are halfway through the gauntlet of the German submarine hunting grounds; and, God providing, they will be at port before sunrise.

They are almost two hundred miles south of Cork, not far from where the Tiger and Indomitable met their fate, when the Sappho's lookouts spot a cloud of smoke from out of the south-western glare. At first, they believe it is a friendly patrol ship, but their signals remain unanswered. It is at a range of less than ten thousand yards that the Tribune's watch officer identifies the incoming ships, and his blood runs cold.

Somehow, impossibly, the Germans are here. The silhouettes of the incoming ships resolve into the threatening hulls of SMS Frauenlob, who has returned to the crime scene, and her sister: the SMS Bremen.

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SMS Frauenlob, crossing the Kaiser Wilhelm Kanal

These are old ships, reaching the end of their second decade of operations. Their last overhaul took place more than five years ago, and they are still limited to a top speed of 24 knots. The British cruisers can run circles around them. But they are still more than capable of catching up to slow, fat-bottomed merchantmen, and each of them carries more (and heavier) guns than the entire escorting force combined.

They have left the North Sea anchorages under cover of darkness, clouds and the morning mist; and they have evaded British patrols for a nerve-wracking three days, all to reach this point. These are not raiders - these are assassins.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/hwtq0riu1/Karl_von_M_ller.jpg)  (https://s26.postimg.cc/n6yos232x/Luckner.png)
Karl von Müller (left) and Felix von Lückner (right), the commanding officers of Frauenlob and Bremen, respectively.

The two ships are commanded by two of the most hell-for-leather daredevils in the Kaiserliche Marine, Korvettenkapitäne Karl von Müller and Felix von Lückner, both Galster's protegés and both willing to take insane risks to maximise what little profit Germany can squeeze out of their old, obsolete ships. They have argued for an independent light cruiser raid since the opening hostilities; after Hipper's success, the Admiralität was willing to entertain the idea. They have sailed hundreds of miles, evading British patrols, to strike here, along the jugular connecting Britain to all traffic sailing north from the Mediterranean and the Southern Atlantic.

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The Sappho and her sister are wrongly positioned to intercept. They are faster, but the Germans have attacked from out of the setting sun and they are almost upon the freighters, before the British cruisers jump into action.

It's too little, too late. At a range of three thousand yards, the German guns flash in a double broadside, right into the scrambling merchantmen. And, a few seconds later, again, in frantic double-time.

The Benmohr, a 10k ton freighter is hit first; a fire breaks out on her upper decks and it quickly reaches her bridge and wheelhouse. Then, the Ponrabbel follows suit, the nitrates she is carrying burning sky-high. Then, the Bremen closes the range even further and fires from both sides of the ship, cracking the hulls of the Troilus and the Iphigeneia in rapid succession.

And then, the German cruisers have sailed past the convoy; and they are engaging the British escorts in a close-range brawl.


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At under 2.5k yards, the two Germans focus their fire on the Sappho. Now. Some points of interest:

The Gazelles are protected cruisers; their armor, essentially, only encompasses their underwater 'citadel' (the term used loosely here). But it is a consistent 2 inches thick; their engine compartments, steering (and everything they really need to get back home) is invulnerable to high-explosive splinter damage. And armor-piercing projectiles, at this range, even the 5-inch armor piercing slung by the British cruisers, will five times out of ten, just sail through and out of their unarmored sides without exploding.

Furthermore, the German ships displace more than 6k tons each, to the Sapphos' 3.2k tons. They can simply afford to take more damage.

The Sapphos, on the other hand, are true light cruisers, with a sloped armored deck and true armor 'belts'. But their armor is only one inch thick, not nearly enough to stop the explosion of a six-inch shell. The Germans only have to load high-explosive and blow them out of the water; and they have sacrificed any and all torpedo armament, so they can carry mine- and depth-charge racks against the German subs.

They can still escape. Point their noses north; make flank speed. The Germans won't be able to catch them. But the commander of the Sappho, Captain John Drummond, refuses to abandon his charges, or to retreat before the enemy.

"It took twenty months to build this ship," he is said to have stated, calmly. "but five centuries to build a tradition on the seas. We shall not retreat. Helm, close the range."

A few minutes later, the Bremen finds the range; and three Sprenggranaten send red-hot shrapnel scything through the Sappho, killing her captain, along with thirty-four other crewmen.

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The British desperately turn away; but now it's too late. The Sappho is already slowing down, one of her boilers cracked and venting steam all over her engineering spaces; the Tribune just runs, in a mad dash to the north that will cost her commander his rank and commission.

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Less than an hour later, the Sappho is a burning wreck. She stops, dead-in-the-water; rolls over, and sinks at 20:38. The Germans pick up fourty-six survivors out of the water; and then, they begin the nerve-wracking trip back.

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The U-109, the submarine that had spotted the convoy and radioed in its position for the cruisers takes the opportunity to fire a cheap parting shot against the patrol ships to flock to the area to escort the surviving freighters safely home. PB9 takes a torpedo to the side; she sinks quickly, but with no loss of life.

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The cruisers reach Helgoland four days later. Their mission is a resounding success, despite the damage and casualties they suffered. Six freighters (almost 50k tons of cargo) are lying at the bottom of the sea, accompanied by one of the most modern light cruisers (and a dangerous minelayer, at that) of the Royal Navy. Müller and Lückner both receive Iron Crosses for their valiant efforts; and Galster rejoices at the opportunity this raid gives him to petition for new cruisers.

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Cruisers like the Hansa. No revolutionary designs here. The Hansa is a Prinz Heinrich with her coal-fired boilers replaced by oil-fired designs. Nothing else is changed; Germany does not have the funds to justify a completely new cruiser design for now. This leaves the Hansas (a class of two ships, like their older sisters) with a rather clumsy implementation of the oil-fired boilers in their engineering spaces, because of weight distribution issues; almost six hundred tons of displacement are left unutilised.

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This does mean, however, that construction can begin immediately, with only a downpayment of half a million Reichsmark (instead of the four and a half million that the development of an optimised hull would have required.) Galster (and the Admiralität are more than happy with this compromise).

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Meanwhile, the Graf Spee completes her training cruise. All three Zähringens are now operational and ready to engage the Grand Fleet.

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R & D are proving once again that German science is the best in the world.

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The U-Boote do their thing again. Holy crap. OK, it's not the 33-ship slaughter of the first month, but twenty-six ships (especially if one takes the light cruisers' haul into account) is still a massive blow.

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And the Piepers shut the door hard on any British submarine efforts.

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And they manage to open passages through British minefields for our raiders and subs to operate! Bei Gott und alle Engel, these little wonders are amazing. Worth every Pfennig.

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July rolls in, Frau Zelle visits the Admiralität...

...and holy ****.

So. This is what the British have rolled out to match the Zähringens.

This is...surprisingly terrifying. OK, its belt and turret armor are butter, as British belts and turret armor tend to be - but fourteen 15-inchers? Controlled by a Fire Director system?

This thing might be a glass cannon, but it is very definitely a cannon, and it must be treated with the respect it deserves. Thank God, it's slow - if things get hairy, the Schlachtkreuzer fleet can disengage.

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Galster and Tirpitz immediately start training the fleet in the appropriate tactics. A very promising Vize-Admiral is placed in command of the Schlachtkreuzer squadrons for the maneuvers: a man called Reinhard Sheer.

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Well done, submariners, as usu-

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****.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 09, 2017, 09:14:39 am
WHO PUT THAT HOSPITAL SHIP THERE.

Oh well, one ship out of a confirmed eighty-five legal submarine kills.

That means that statistically we've only ****ed up 1.17% of the time. Nobody's perfect. You gotta admit, those are pretty good statistics.

I mean, they were probably Spaghettis, anyway
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 09, 2017, 10:05:32 am
For those who don't know: The battle turn-away (german: Gefechtskehrtwendung) was one of the major tactical innovations the german navy made in WW1. The basic problem is this: If you have a fleet in line formation, and the enemy manages to cross your T, how do you disengage? Ideally, you'd want to reverse course, but that's more difficult than it sounds, especially if you want to retain your formation. The issue here is that this requires precise coordination between the ships so that they don't run into each other, and that coordination was rather difficult without good radios. What the germans realized was that you didn't need to do a lot of coordination if the trailing ship in formation starts the turn, so the Gefechtskehrtwendung was always initiated by the ship in front signalling the turn, every ship repeating that signal, and the last ship putting her rudder over immediately upon seeing the signal. The next ship in line would watch the bow of the last ship, and put her own rudder over as soon as they saw the last ship turning away, repeating until the first ship in formation sees the second ship in formation start to turn.
It should be noted that this maneuver requires a lot of discipline.  The foremost ship in particular needs to hold its course for a very long time, which as you might imagine is pretty stressful when you're looking into the amassed broadsides of the enemy fleet.

This maneuver was incredibly effective historically. At Jutland, Scheer used it to get his ships out of trouble twice.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on September 09, 2017, 12:05:15 pm
Interesting.

A hint: Heligoland is called Helgoland in german and it is Reichsmark, 1 Reichsmark, 2 Reichsmark, a million Reichsmark and so on :D
Besides that: Keep it up.
If a sub sinks a cruiser or something of that magnitude, gimme a call, I'm recalling a german sub recieving the Iron cross for such a thing.
Also considering that Hospital ship... it is not called Lusitania I hope...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 09, 2017, 02:24:49 pm
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Thank God, it's slow - if things get hairy, the Schlachtkreuzer fleet can disengage.
I like how R&D is all like "Disengage? We've got just the thing for you"
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 10, 2017, 04:34:22 am
Interesting.

A hint: Heligoland is called Helgoland in german and it is Reichsmark, 1 Reichsmark, 2 Reichsmark, a million Reichsmark and so on :D
Besides that: Keep it up.
If a sub sinks a cruiser or something of that magnitude, gimme a call, I'm recalling a german sub recieving the Iron cross for such a thing.
Also considering that Hospital ship... it is not called Lusitania I hope...

Fixed, and noted, thanks!

Sadly, no capital ship sinkings by submarine in this war. As for the hospital ship; no. Given the rise in tensions, it must have been Italian. Some sort of Red Cross relief vessel. Who cares, amirite?  :drevil: :nervous:

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Thank God, it's slow - if things get hairy, the Schlachtkreuzer fleet can disengage.
I like how R&D is all like "Disengage? We've got just the thing for you"

"Just do this":

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"No, of course it's not dangerous. Don't be ridiculous, man!"

And The_E being a boss with the historical notes again.  :yes: :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 10, 2017, 05:44:30 am
We spend thousands upon thousands of marks to research the novel concept, of turning away from the enemy.

Maybe the french has rubbed off just a bit, during the alliance?  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 10, 2017, 05:58:40 am
We spend thousands upon thousands of marks to research the novel concept, of turning away from the enemy.

Maybe the french has rubbed off just a bit, during the alliance?  :p

(I realize this post was in jest, but...) Not really -- As I tried to explain, the Gefechtskehrtwendung wasn't a novel concept by itself: It's the obvious counter if your T is crossed. But before the Kriegsmarine figured it out, it was generally thought to be impractical, as naval tacticians were perhaps a bit too preoccupied with making sure that the leading ship gets out of danger as fast as possible. The Kriegsmarine recognized that, assuming the commander had enough time and data to see the T-crossing coming, his lead ship would be able to tank a few rounds of shellfire, and that getting most of the formation out is more important than getting the lead ship out (despite the lead ship traditionally carrying the fleet commander).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 10, 2017, 11:58:09 am
Realizes post is a joke, continues to reply seriously anyway.
Why though?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 10, 2017, 12:10:15 pm
Because Germany. Clearly.
Title: The Battle of Lerwick
Post by: Enioch on September 11, 2017, 08:41:21 am
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British 1917 Cartoon, ridiculing the German 'submarine blockade' in the aftermath of the Glenart Castle incident

"There is little question that Kapitänleutnant Valentiner broke the rules we set for ourselves here. We cannot prosecute one of our own for what I am sure most of the world would (and already is) label a war crime - the effect on the submariners' morale would be devastating. But he is never to command again; and strict measures are to be taken to prevent such incidents in the future."

-Personal memo signed by Admiral von Tirpitz to an undisclosed recipient in the Oberste Merineleitung, declassified in the 1950s

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Not the proudest moment for the Admiralität, not to mention the U-Boot Command.

Well...

When dealing with such unfortunate events, von Müller and von Lückner decide, the best thing to do is organise another daredevil run. To raise the spirits of the Matrosen and to perform to the highest standards of seamanship!

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And so, on the foggy, hazy morning of the 18th of August, they take their old, obsolete protected cruisers through the Channel (!), braving minefields, patrols and shore batteries along the way.

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By noon, they have evaded British patrols and reached as far west as Plymouth, passing less than fourty nautical miles away from the British naval base in Portsmouth.

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During the afternoon, they retrace their steps, spending the night cruising at low speed near Dieppe.

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And, shortly after sunrise the next day, they cross the strait at Calais. Von Müller feels cheeky; he takes Frauenlob near the coastal batteries in Dungeness and opens fire, taking the dozing garrison there by complete surprise. Two eight-inch coastal guns are destroyed and six gunners are wounded in their barracks beds; the German cruisers make good their escape, suffering only minimal damage from sporadic 4-inch return fire.

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It's no major victory, but it's a glorious display of German seamanship. Von Müller and von Lückner have taken the Frauenlob and the Bremen right into the Brits' front yard, essentially unchallenged.

It is interesting to note that the first British reports on the incident mention that a 'German probing raid near Dover was repulsed'; no mention is given to the German cruisers' crossing of the channel. It is only after the war that the German Admiralität figures out that the Brits had never realised that the cruisers had ever passed Dover in the first place.

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In early September, Britain probes for a white, compromise peace. Von Mecklenburg consults the Admiralität; Tirpitz and Galster both agree that, even though they have no answer to the British surface blockade (yet), the Navy is willing and able to continue the fight and, perhaps, grant von Mecklenburg a considerably better negotiating position.

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Taking his cue from the submariners, the Kaiser proceeds to absolutely torpedo the peace negotiations.

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Hmmmm. While one can hardly fault the R & D department for their efforts, light cruisers are simply not the German...thing anymore. Not when the Prinz Heinrichs and the Hansas so greatly outperform the light cruisers of other nations.

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THIS, on the other hand, has Tirpitz, Hipper and Sheer drooling. The potential benefits from equipping the Zähringens (never mind the Wittelsbachs) with the new 30.5 cm SK L/60 rifles would be enormous. But there is no question of taking the biggest and nastiest capitals in Germany's fleet out of active service for now.

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German submarine warfare continues to bleed the Brits dry, although their performance in October leaves something to be desired. Increased U-Boot losses may be due to the launch of new British patrol ships; or the implementation of new ASW techniques. The Admiralität keeps a close eye on the situation.

What is clear, however, is that it works, for now at least. [Holy ****, two 'starvation' triggers in September!]

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And the bloody Piepers (the name ship, no less, well done you little scamp!) find and clear another British minefield in the North Sea.

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Oho. Ohohohohoho.

On the evening of October 2nd, U-110 reports from the North Atlantic near the Faroes. There is a massive convoy moving in, under heavy capital ship support. They have tentatively identified at least one Sutlej-class battlecruiser: the newest and most dangerous 15-inch British capitals.

Mackensen is currently at the yard, with condenser troubles; but the rest of the Hochseeflotte sorties immediately and in force, making their best speed to intercept. This is what Galster and Tirpitz have been waiting for: a chance to choose the engagement and to encounter a small, vulnerable part of the Grand Fleet with the maximum available force on their end.

The Germans bring five Schlachtkreuzer to the fight. The Wittelsbach, Derfflinger and Hindenburg lead the fleet as a scouting element in force, with a small Zerstörer screen. The Zähringen and Graf Spee follow them as a main strike element, escorted by Hertha, Victoria Louise and Vineta. Their flanks are guarded by Frauenlob and Bremen and their own complement of Zerstörer.

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Unfortunately, weather worsens, quickly. By the time the German forces reach the expected intercept point near Lerwick, in the early morning of the 4th of October, they are sailing into a gale, that swamps the decks of the Zerstörer and limits visibility to a maximum of just under 6k yards.

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Hipper, from on board the Wittelsbach suggests that the force withdraw: an engagement under these circumstances would be a gamble that the Germans can ill afford. Sheer, captaining the Graf Spee, concurs. The German force turns to the south.

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Ten minutes after that fateful decision, a cluster of dark shapes emerges from the rain and squalls, less than two thousand yards to the east of Hipper's force. The Schlachtkreuzer go into immediate evasive maneuvers, turning their bows toward the sleek black shapes of the British destroyers; but it's too late for Derfflinger. A torpedo, either lucky or perfectly aimed, hits her in her aft, locking her rudder for a few critical minutes and leaving her unable to follow her sisters in their turn towards the north.

In return, the Wittelsbach opens fire with her main and secondary armaments, scoring a hit against what seems to be a British cruiser to the north-east and raking one of the destroyers with 5-inch fire.

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A couple of minutes later, the lookouts identify the British capital. Yes, she's a cruiser: an armored cruiser of the Hogue class. An old ship - not surprising to see her on convoy duty. By this time, Hindenburg has her range.

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And she blankets the old cruiser with a full broadside of main and secondary guns. At least two shells strike the Hogue and, for a moment, the German gunners think they were duds; and then the Hogue goes up like a roman candle, the shockwave of the explosion reaching the low clouds above. If there are any survivors, it's impossible to pick them up in these seas.

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But the same waves that prevent the German Zerstörer from closing in to assist the castaways, also make life difficult for the Derfflinger's damcon teams. They have restored steering, but her flooding is less easy to bring under control. Her portside compartments are flooded and it is impossible to access them from outside; two bulheads have ruptured; and she can only do 16 knots. But, thankfully, her pumps are operational; and the water has not reached her magazines. She is crippled, but she can fight, if necessary; for now, Hipper signals her to retreat towards the north-west, until they bring their flooding under control.

And then, fifteen minutes after the Hogue's violent death, with the Graf Spee and the Zähringen having reached the scene, the Hindenburg pokes through another squall, to find an enemy capital ship almost two thousand yards to her north-east, again.

The two ships open fire at each other simultaneously, before their lookouts have the time to identify each other. At this range, it's not really necessary. The British ship scores one hit on the Hindenburg's superstructure, a massive shell screaming through the unarmored forward mast structure without its fuze arming. In return, the 12'' German shell punches clean into the foredeck of the British battlecruiser. The hit is followed by one, two, three internal secondary explosions...

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...and then the ship goes up, a massive fireball annihilating everything forward of her smokestacks.

Holy crap.

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Into this mess, the Graf Spee and the Zähringen ride, going too fast to change course in time. They are immediately punished for it, as the British destroyers flush their torpedo tubes in their direction.

But these ships are made of stern stuff. At flank speed, the Graf Spee passes less than 500 yards from a second British capital, pumping two shots into her belt. The Zähringen, following her closely, puts another two shots into the enemy ship. And then, the Brit fires back, in a thunder of heavy guns, raking the Graf Spee with six heavy shots into her forward belt, superstructure, and her 'C' turret.

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The turret cracks; in an instant, the crew die at their stations.

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Finally, the lookouts of the Graf Spee manage to identify their target. She's a Sutlej alright, and the German guns erupt in fury again. Three more hits are scored by the batteries of Graf Spee and Zähringen; Frauenlob closes into suicidal range and pumps high explosive shots into the Brit's fire directors and superstructure.

The two forward turrets of the Sutlej fall silent, dead on their bearings; the two rear turrets fire again, but only score an overpenetrating hit on the Graf's superstructure.

And then Graf Spee fires back, her 'B' turret putting three shots into the Sutlej's belt; and Derffliner, her flooding finally under control, appears from out of a nearby fog bank and thunders a reply to her bigger sister's broadside. The Sutlej shudders...

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...and goes up, much like her sister.

Meanwhile, Frauenlob has reached the transports.

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She's immediately followed by the rest of the fleet, and the British destroyers scatter like cockroaches. The Hindenburg takes the destroyer leader (an Andromache-class light cruiser) under fire, scoring several hits; the German Zerstörer take up the hunt. Frauenlob and Bremen deal with the convoy, boarding and taking on the crews before sinking the ships with torpedoes and gunfire.

The battle is over.

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And a good thing too. The German ships have suffered considerably and the Graf Spee floats very low at the waterline. Note that she and the Derfflinger have not suffered much damage; it is the flooding from the torpedo hits that threatened their survival.

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But they make it home, despite the best efforts of the British to intercept them. U-Boote cover their retreat path; they are in Helgoland by noon of the 5th of August.

With the exception of the unfortunate torpedo hits, it's textbook fight and victory; and the Kaiser is jumping for joy. The Zähringens have given a good accounting of themselves, tanking most of the damage that would have otherwise been spread around the fleet and yet surviving to fight another day; the convoy was sunk; and the British have lost two of their most modern (and dreaded) 15-inch battlecruisers, without any returns.

When His Majesty congratulates Hipper, Sheer and the Admiralität in general, however, Sheer, pale and shaken, states:

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"We must never fight a battle in such weather conditions again"

And he is right. The Hochseeflotte was this close to losing the Graf and the Derfflinger; and these ships will now be undergoing extensive repairs. The fleet cannot take such a risk again.

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Nevertheless, this is still a glorious victory.

The British have lost HMS Essex and HMS Berwick, as well as HMS Drake and three of their destroyers. HMS Latona, the Andromache-class light cruiser that Hindenburg had taken under fire only barely manages to reach Scapa Flow. And, out of the six massive tankers that the British were escorting, only two managed to slip away in the rain.

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Once again, the Admiralitätsarchiv comes to our assistance with their map records. Note the 'node' in the centre of the map, where the quick decisive engagement took place; and the paths of retreat of the German forces (south-east, to Helgoland) and the British surviving ships (south-west, to Scapa Flow).

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It is a glorious victory, indeed, made even more devastating to the British by the fact that they lost three capital ships to flash fires and magazine explosions.

For a long time, the reasons for these devastating explosions were obfuscated by the Admiralty: originally, the blame fell on the weak belt and turret armor of the British ships. However, as future research into these battles and the records of the Admiralty would prove, this was, in fact, a disingenuous campaign by certain high-ranking officers of the Admiralty, to cover up near-criminal negligence in the implementation of the proper safety procedures in British ships. Both the Essex and the Berwick were sailing with many of their bulkhead doors open, for the ease of their crews, not expecting any action. Furthermore, fire doors and hatches in the turret barbettes and magazines were left opened as crews rushed to their stations. This allowed explosions in the turrets to travel down to the magazines, with disastrous effects. On the other hand, despite having her 'C' turret penetrated by a 15'' shell, the Graf Spee had survived, because her crew had followed all mandated security precautions

And now, after their experience, the Germans put even more stock on keeping their ships alive. On the other hand, the British-

-well, how much they learned from the disaster at Lerwick is debatable.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 11, 2017, 08:47:36 am
THERE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR BLOODY SHIPS TODAY, BRITS.

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Darius on September 11, 2017, 09:09:39 am
Does the British trait of turret flashfires remain a thing throughout the entire game or do they eventually research it away?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 11, 2017, 09:11:25 am
From what I understand, it is gradually phased away.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 11, 2017, 11:27:56 am
[Remains of a Memo, issued as an operational procedure update for his Majesty's Navy, dated January 1916, recovered by intelligence agents]

Recent developments in naval technology among our adversaries have prompted us to reevaluate our current operating procedures regarding capital ship gunnery. From what we can gather, the germans have concentrated on developing their naval gunfire doctrine around large number of highly advanced but comparatively low-calibre guns; it is believed that these guns' shortcomings compared to our own capital naval rifles are adequately compensated by the combination of high volume of fire, the inherent accuracy provided by german fire control technology and the inherent stability provided by the size of the german gun platforms.

As a result, if we are to prevail in the inevitable battle, we must do our utmost to get maximum performance from our existing guns. It is thus ordered:
1. That crew training in ammo handling and gunnery be given the highest priority. Fleet, Task Force and Ship commanders are authorized to conduct live-fire exercises as deemed necessary
2. That unobstructed ammunition passage through the ship be given highest priority during combat. To that end, ammunition hoists are to be kept open at all times. This supercedes the relevant instructions from previously issued training manuals.
3. That training to these new standards be started on all ships no later than February 1st, 1917.

[Rest of memo unrecoverable]
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Col. Fishguts on September 11, 2017, 02:29:20 pm
Lol at all the detonations ;)

What's with the difference between the available forces in the dialogue box before the battle to the number of ship actually present in the scenario?
Does the game RNG a fleet out of the available ships?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 11, 2017, 02:48:29 pm
Lol at all the detonations ;)

What's with the difference between the available forces in the dialogue box before the battle to the number of ship actually present in the scenario?
Does the game RNG a fleet out of the available ships?

Kinda sorta.

The available ships are those currently present and active in the map sector (in contrast to those which are present but not active, like mothballed or reserve ships).

The ships which participate in the battle are selected based on age (it is presumed that a nation will commit their newest and more capable ships before their older deathtraps), speed and mission type.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 11, 2017, 03:31:03 pm
2. That unobstructed ammunition passage through the ship be given highest priority during combat. To that end, ammunition hoists are to be kept open at all times. This supercedes the relevant instructions from previously issued training manuals.

You know, I wonder: I know that this is a thing that regularly happened in the OTL Royal Navy, but was it ever officially sanctioned like you are suggesting here, for the ATL?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 11, 2017, 04:36:28 pm
Quote
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"Arising from the tendency of Hochseeflotte Capital Ships returning from their victories with a goodly chunk of the battle-area held in their hulls, sailors of Schlachtkreuzer Sqaudrons started the somewhat perverse tradition of bottling it as mementos.  Even today when visiting the famous sailors' haunts in Wilhelmshaven and Kiel among the plethora of naval memorabilia one can see bier bottles lined behind the bars filled with seawater taken from the likes of Goeben, Von Der Tan, Derfflinger and many others.  Despite its origin as a bit of gallows humor, when confronted with the volume of bottles in these displays one can only stand in awe at the durability and tradition of victory they represent."

Excerpt from "Zitadellen der Stahl: An analysis of the German Battlecruiser Force" Thomas K. Rhodes November 2, 2004
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: niffiwan on September 11, 2017, 04:59:44 pm
I'm don't entirely understand the reason for giving the Brits the turret flashfire weakness trait, the HSF followed the same shoddy ammunition handling procedures until Dogger Bank/Seydlitz. I recall reading somewhere that the practise started because the new explosives used in shells were much safer than those previously used. It took hard lessons on both sides (Dogger Bank/Jutland ~16 months apart) to go back to appropriate ammo handling procedures.

Having said that, I presume the games author knew this as well - can anyone enlighten me to any reasons I'm missing?

Also, for Sir Enioch - have you actually lost any battles in your playthroughs? (ignoring Japanese surprise attacks). It's getting a bit... predictable :(
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 11, 2017, 06:23:57 pm
I read in Osprey's British Dreadnought vs German Dreadnought that while some unsafe handling procedures by the RN contributed to the disasters the differences in powder played the major role.  HSF utilized a slow burning powder while the British used a much faster one that created intense over-pressures, that combined with sub-par flash doors led to the three battlecruisers and two armored cruisers blowing up.  By contrast st Dogger Bank the Seydiltz took a 13.5" shell in the aft turret barbette that  ignited 62 charges but she didn't blow up due to the powder.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 12, 2017, 01:28:46 am
I read in Osprey's British Dreadnought vs German Dreadnought that while some unsafe handling procedures by the RN contributed to the disasters the differences in powder played the major role.  HSF utilized a slow burning powder while the British used a much faster one that created intense over-pressures, that combined with sub-par flash doors led to the three battlecruisers and two armored cruisers blowing up.  By contrast st Dogger Bank the Seydiltz took a 13.5" shell in the aft turret barbette that  ignited 62 charges but she didn't blow up due to the powder.

This.
Also, Germans utilised hard metal casings for their cordite, while the Brits stored it in bags. Combine that with the fact that British cordite was of inferior quality and tended to break down and soak into the bag fabric, and you had a considerably more dangerous environment and a high likelihood for bags going up together.

Also, for Sir Enioch - have you actually lost any battles in your playthroughs? (ignoring Japanese surprise attacks). It's getting a bit... predictable :(

Spoiler:
Yes. :p

But, in all honesty, if you're looking for something more than an overall curbstomp of the AI, eeeeeeh.  :doubt: Sorry to say, but the AI insisted on following the worst possible tactics for dealing with the German fleet and ships, throughout the game.

Snip

<3 <3 <3

This is now canon for the timeline.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 12, 2017, 02:14:24 am
2. That unobstructed ammunition passage through the ship be given highest priority during combat. To that end, ammunition hoists are to be kept open at all times. This supercedes the relevant instructions from previously issued training manuals.

You know, I wonder: I know that this is a thing that regularly happened in the OTL Royal Navy, but was it ever officially sanctioned like you are suggesting here, for the ATL?

I honestly don't know. But it seems to me that, at the very least, this practice must have been tacitly approved by the senior noncoms and commissioned officers in charge of the gun mounts. Whether or not this was ordered directly or indirectly (as in, the Captain telling the gun crews that they must reach this fire rate target, whatever it takes) doesn't really matter -- I don't think that this is something that the on-mount personnel would decide for themselves, not this consistently across the fleet.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 12, 2017, 03:38:00 am
DOUBLE POST: I've taken the liberty of updating the index.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 12, 2017, 03:43:54 am
 :hopping:


Seriously, thanks. Now I need to fix the threadmarks  :nervous:

EDIT: hey, mods / admins, I found a forum bug. Emoticons don't work after a yt bracket.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 12, 2017, 05:46:20 am
ALSO DOUBLE POST.

Threadmarks and navigation are now fixed and updated.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 12, 2017, 06:23:44 am
Spies report the brits are testing a new torpedo, suggest immediate upgrading of our underwater protection:
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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 12, 2017, 06:37:20 am
*Snip*

Foolish Brits.  :lol:

Everybody knows that the Pickelhaube gives German human torpedoes improved penetration.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on September 16, 2017, 05:33:07 am
"Those darn Jerry sewer pipes aren't quite sporting, I say!"
-An anonymous British merchant sailor's final words, as recorded in the ship's log, recovered from the wreckage.
Title: Bergen or: 'How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Blowing up'
Post by: Enioch on September 16, 2017, 05:46:26 am
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"The message sent at 12:06 to the Chief of Support that we were engaged with two enemy battle-cruisers on a southeasterly course showed that we had succeeded in meeting the enemy, and that, as we fought we were drawing him closer to our Support Fleet. The duty of the Support Fleet was now to hasten as quickly as possible to support the Main Fleet, and to endeavour to hinder the premature retreat of the enemy."

"The subsequent damage suffered by the flagship might well have been fatal, if not for the daring of the Chief of Support and the bravery shown by the Support Fleet."


-Admiral Reinhard Scheer, GERMANY'S HIGH SEAS FLEET IN THE WAR, 1920 London, New York, Toronto and Melbourne: Cassell and Company, Ltd, p. 146

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In the aftermath of Lerwick, the German fleet is victorious, but mauled. Graf Spee, Hindenburg and Derfflinger suffered the most and will need at least three months in the yards to be repaired. Zähringen has also taken severe damage, but this is mostly limited to underwater compartments and cannot be compared to the Graf Spee's total loss of her 'C' turret. The docks give a more optimistic estimate for her: work on her torp belt and her watertight compartments should be complete in fifty to sixty days.

Meanwhile, and despite the severe losses inflicted upon the British navy, the naval blockade stays in effect. While the Hochseeflotte at their best can challenge the blockading ships, the German harbours are now firmly closed to merchant traffic.

Not to mention the delayed launch of the name ship HMS Sutlej herself. Crap. That's all the Admiralität needed - another British 15-inch battlecruiser on patrol.

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The end of the month marks the commissioning of the Prinz Heinrich. She does not, yet, dare to brave the Northern Atlantic waters; her traning cruises take place in the safer waters of the Baltic. She performs to the complete satisfaction of her designers.

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New torpedoes are introduced; faster, longer-ranged and packing a larger warhead, just in time for the November submarine offensive.

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Which, à propos, is back to its usually devastating levels.

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And to its usual result with respect to the supply situation in the British Isles. Fortress Albion is starving.

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The same cannot be said for the British colonies. Arcona, sailing on long-distance raids from Tsingtao, spots a large convoy making way towards Hong Kong. She attempts to engage...

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But then her lookouts spot the Diadem-class armored cruiser that is escorting the convoy. The Arcona's 6-inch guns cannot reliably hurt the British ship; on the other hand, the four 10-inch rifles that the Brit can bring to bear can very quickly sink the German cruiser...

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...as the Brit immediately demonstrates with a long-range shot that strikes the Arcona's superstructure.

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Discretion is the better part of valor, the Germans decide.

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December comes; and on the 1st of the month, reports are submitted to the Admiralität. First, R & D arrives, with a design for a gun mount that should be able to permit elevating main battery guns up to thirty degrees. The benefit for the Zähringens is, once again, obvious; unfortunately, prolonging their drydock stay for the four-to-eight-month period that the massive overhaul of their artillery would require is out of the question.

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Submarines are continuing to be utter rockstars; the British submariners, on the other hand, only bag a single ship near Tsingtao, as all merchant sea traffic to Germany has been stopped by the blockade. Of course, the blockade still hurts, badly.

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Which is why, on the 2nd of December, just before noon, we find ourselves in the North Sea, near Bergen. All active German Schlachtkreuzer are on the prowl, looking to find, isolate and destroy any part of the blockading force.

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The fleet is divided into two task forces. One group comprises of the Mackensen, which had missed the Battle of Lerwick due to her faulty condensers but is now fully operational. On her, Scheer has his flag. The second ship in the column is Zähringen herself, her repairs finished and back to action. The third slot would, usually, have been filled by Graf Spee, but her repairs are still ongoing. Lützow is called upon to complete the trio.

Hipper is following, this time around, in command of the support force. His flag is on the old Moltke, which is followed by the Seydlitz and the Goeben. Closing the formation are the three old Victoria Louises, ready to provide anti-cruiser 11-inch fire. Frauenlob and Bremen have, once again, sortied as scout elements (hilariously, they are so old, by now, that they are slower than the Schlachtkreuzer they are supposed to be scouting for).

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This is the furthest the Germans have dared extend so far in this war; and it has taken a toll on the older Schlachtkreuzer. They have been on patrol duty for weeks before the sortie; and they have not had the chance to refill their coal bunkers. On the one hand, this limits their operational range, and Scheer is very much aware of the fact. On the other hand, they are lighter and slightly faster, which could tip the scale in an engagement. Then again, the coal bunkers themselves are designed to provide a measure of protection to the ship; being empty, that is no longer the case.

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Scheer is considering calling the sortie off and retreating back to Home Waters, when the Moltke signals ENEMY LIGHT CRUISER BEARING 185. Hipper, being his usual daredevil self, does not wait for Scheer to confirm or authorise a pursuit action; he turns his ships to the south and orders flank speed. Scheer vaccilates, for a few seconds; and then follows.

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Moltke does not take long to identify the lead cruiser as an Andromache. A smaller, Champion-class scout is following her (and now making billy big steps towards the south). Moltke opens fire at long range with her 11-inchers at 10:18.

Some hits are scored. The Germans fire slowly, to preserve their ammunition for a potential fleet action. An hour later, however...

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...with Scheer's force joining in the action, the Zähringen scores two hits close to the waterline. And the little scout cruiser vanishes into a cloud of fire and splinters, that fall from the sky like macabre hail.

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There is little time to celebrate, or collect survivors. Zähringen's lookouts identify at least two capitals, approaching from the east. Scheer curses - he still has no idea about the distribution of the enemy forces, or their composition. Is this the main enemy force? Does it make sense to engage?

The enemy ships are still just outside the range of his Schlachtkreuzer, and he is still deliberating, when the British battlecruisers open fire.

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One 15-inch shell splashes right next to the Mackensen and explodes underwater, denting the ship's double bottom with the force of the explosion. A second shell strikes her belt, at an obliue angle, and ricochets off, screaming like a banshee. A third smashes into her aft engineering spaces and explodes.

And the ship dies; her electrical power disabled. Turrets jam on their bearings. The big steam turbines spin uselessly. The ammo hoists grow quiet. And her propellers slow, and stop.

The German flagship is dead in the water, and the British have already bracketed her, with what looks to be 15-inch guns.

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Oh crap. 15-inch guns indeed. That's an Australia, Hipper realises, as he brings his own forces closer: the first implementation of the 15-inchers in British naval design, but by no means less dangerous than a more modern Sutlej, especially for a crippled German ship. She must be driven away from the flagship.

Hipper signals ALL SHIPS FORM LINE OF BATTLE ON SUPPORT FLAG and follows it up with his own order from the Ireland raid: SCHLACHTKREUZER RAN AN DEN FEIND. The signal is taken up by the rest of the German ships; and, still not knowing whether the battlecruisers are an advance force for a larger British fleet, the Germans charge down the barrels of the 15-inchers, hoping to get the enemy into the range of their 12-inchers and old 11-inchers.

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Lützow, her own fuel bunkers now more than half-exhausted responds and pushes in first, overtaking the Zähringen, which follows as close second. Behind them, but quickly catching up, are Hipper's ships.

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The Brits oblige them. Goeben, the old berserker of the Russian wars, scores first blood for the Germans, with an insane shot at the extreme limit of her range. The Brits fire right back, and their superior guns pump three hits into Seydlitz. The first penetrates her aft turret and kills the entire turret crew. The second bounces off her belt; but the third punches through her thin bow armor and detonates under the waterline. Seydlitz's speed immediately drops to 22 knots and her forward compartments start flooding.

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A second Andromache now joins in, peppering the Schlachtkreuzer with high-explosive shells. Thankfully, they are defeated by the German armor. Meanwhile, Moltke finds the range, and drills an 11-inch shell into the trailing Australia's belt.

And then a 15-inch shell smashes the Moltke's bow to kindling; and a torpedo, spotted far too late, hits her on the starboard side.

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Both German flagships are now crippled, the Moltke, in particular, suffering severe flooding, as a grim reminder of her old war-wound. But the mad charge of the old Schlachtkreuzer has drawn its measure of blood.

The trailing Australia, on which the German fire was mostly concentrated, has been effectively mission-killed. One of her turrets has been cracked open and is now burning merrily; two more are jammed on their bearings.

The other is, essentially, untouched; but she is running as quickly as she can towards the east, for she has seen a new threat. Her electrical systems restored, Mackensen is bearing down on the fight like an avenging god, her guns on double-time.

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Hipper tries to get an idea of the damage his ship has suffered. The news are not as grim as he expected. True, the Moltke has suffered severe underwater damage (a result of her total lack of any torpedo defense system), but her crew are truly elite; and they know how to deal with flooding. Damcon crews have already limited the influx of water considerably; they should be able to stop it completely in, perhaps, half an hour. But the ship cannot do more than 14 knots and two of her turrets (half of her guns) are inoperable. Hipper decides to move his flag to the Goeben; and is ferried over under sporadic fire from the Andromache.

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This close to the Arctic cycle, night falls early in December. In the twilight gloom, the combatants lose track of each other. Mackensen flashes recognition signals, as she approaches, to avoid any friendly-fire incidents; and the German ships respond in good order. But a dark shape to the Mackensen's north does not respond; and Scheer does not hesitate.

The Mackensen's guns flash in the darkness, at a target around three thousand yards away. Her secondaries fire star-shells, to better illuminate the enemy ship. Fourteen 12-inch rifles boom again, having acquired the range; and seven shells pound the Brit's aft to shreds. This is a Zähringen-class warship at her element; broadsiding an enemy at close range.

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The star-shells wink off; and the British fire back, in the darkness, aiming for the German gun flashes. Goeben, from where Hipper is leading the support squadron, is hit, badly. Two of her turrets are penetrated, with massive casualties; her rudder jams on a tight turn to port and she is left circling, uncontrollably. She is also flooding, from an underwater hit near her engine spaces; she has lost a boiler and she can only do 19 knots.

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But, in return, Scheer has brought Mackensen and Lützow in close, crossing the aft T of the Australia. Lützow is quicker on the trigger, and pumps two shells into her. Mackensen aims more carefully and has more guns ready. Seven 12'' shells pummel the British ship.

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At this range, its armor might as well not have existed. Three of her four turrets go up in flame and smoke; the fourth one jams on its bearings. Secondary explosions turn her insides into a charnel house. Finally her guns go silent, and she drifts away in the darkness, a lifeless hulk.

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Scheer will not pursue, not with his ships mauled as they are. He flashes RÜCKZUG to his ships, and the German battlecruiser force begins the long, arduous trek back home.

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His reluctance spares the second Australia. The British ships were, actually, alone, against six German Schlachtkreuzer, but Scheer's ships had received such a beating that he was reluctant to take the chance that a backup force of Dreadnoughts (or, heaven forbid, more 15-inch battlecruisers) might have been in the vicinity. The HMS Monmouth, therefore, manages to reach Scapa Flow in good condition.

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It is a testament to the durability of the old, relatively small, under-armed Schlachtkreuzer of Hipper's force that they managed to stand up to the beating they received by the British 15'' guns at such close range, and still claim a kill. For, on the morning of the 3rd of December, while the German ships are still at sea, the British Admiralty makes public the loss of the Australia-class Princess Royal. Having received more than ninety (!) 12'' shells on her hull and superstructure, many at point-blank range, the British ship was an unsalvageable mass of twisted metal and blood.

The Germans were quick to claim a victory and, tactically, they were right. Their ships had suffered significantly, true. The Goeben in particular, true to her 'berserker' rumour had performed better than the more modern Lützow, with 19 confirmed main battery hits; but she had also taken 9 15'' shells on her turrets and belt, more than any other ship in the German fleet. She would need at least three months in drydock to be fully repaired.

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It was this battle (and the near-crippling of the Moltke and the Goeben, going up against significantly superior opponents in the defense of the crippled Mackensen) that earned Hipper the nickname 'Jagdhund' (i.e. 'Hunting Dog'), for his clear tendency to go for the throat and always bring back a kill.

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But one thing was important, in the Battle of Bergen, something that the Germans did not notice at the time. The Princess Royal had taken massive amounts of damage. More than half of her crew had died on their stations; three out of her four turrets had been penetrated by German shells. And yet, despite all that-

-she had not blown up.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 16, 2017, 06:49:47 am
The brits are having such a fun and engaging time.
Title: Re: Bergen or: 'How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Blowing up'
Post by: StarSlayer on September 16, 2017, 11:38:08 am
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But one thing was important, in the Battle of Bergen, something that the Germans did not notice at the time. The Princess Royal had taken massive amounts of damage. More than half of her crew had died on their stations; three out of her four turrets had been penetrated by German shells. And yet, despite all that-

-she had not blown up.

Did WG finally rebalance the detonation mechanic in WoWs this patch? :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 16, 2017, 11:57:06 am
Nah, the Brits just remembered to fly the right signals before going into matchmaking :)
Title: The Harwich Raid
Post by: Enioch on September 17, 2017, 11:29:19 am
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"That fateful morning 18 people fell victim to the German attack, either killed instantly, as in the case of the 14-month-old baby boy Mark Spears Lloyd, or who died later as a result of their wounds like shoemaker Horace Dawson."

"Panic drove people from their homes, fear forced them to flee the town in all directions, whilst the sparse smattering of freshly recruited Territorials in the town tried to help the injured and wounded at the railway station."

"Some 15 minutes or so later there was a brief calm as the ships steaming southward turned northwards and commenced firing again."

"The attack lasted some 30 minutes, and the folk of Harwich suffered greatly, being left to try and save what and who they could as the ships sailed off."


-BBC archives on the Harwich raid

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Mid-war; and the more recent designs for automated fire extinguishers in German ships are leaked to Italy. There is some consternation; but Germany cannot afford to look weak at this point. A diplomatic note of protest is sent to the Italian Government.

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It is now January; and the promises of the Kaiser for a war that will be over before Christmas are proven...well, false is a strong word, but it kinda fits, in this case. Great Britain is suffering, but still holding fast; her fleet is still a threat; and, while the submarine campaign has caused massive damage to her merchant fleet, she still has the resources of an entire Empire to draw upon.

Once more, the German submariners brave the winter seas; once more, they savage the British convoys.

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Despite the British blockade, it is not the German populace that hungers during the Christmas holidays.

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It is time to push them hard. So far, the British civilians have experienced war as something distant and far away. They suffer the deprivations inflicted by the German submarines; and they have sent their young men to sea, to die; but Fortress Britain is still sacrosanct, safe. Impregnable for centuries.

The Admiralität proposes a plan to show the enemy the error of that belief. The most daring enterprise yet proposed, concocted after months-long deliberation and planning: a raid, in the Estuary of the Thames, there to engage British merchant traffic and destroy coastal infrastructure.

This is Galster's baby; he has been working on this plan for months, while Tirpitz has taken over oversight of the U-Boot operations. Galster's intelligence team have been sending fake signals from German port installations and supply bases for months; shuttling his Kreuzer and Schlachtkreuzer around; letting the British think that the Germans are planning a repeat of Bregen: a push towards the Scandinavian north, near or past Scapa Flow. Admiral Beatty takes the bait, hook line and sinker, moving his most capable 15-inch ships to the northern waters and intensifying coastal patrols near the Faroes.

And so, on the 27th of January, the German forces use the heavy rain and gale-like winds to sneak into the south-eastern British Home Waters, undetected.

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It is worth noting that the force composition is a compromise. Galster had originally planned for all three Zähringens to be present, as the core of the battlefleet; unfortunately, after the engagement at Bergen, only the Graf Spee is available for action. And so, Germany is pushing in with a force very much inferior to what had been originally planned. Furthermore, the German ships are pushing in during, essentially, a storm: the same weather conditions that Scheer had warned against. Scheer himself, on board the Graf Spee, has expressed his considerable misgivings; he is not eager to have his ships charged down and sunk by British torpedo boats, in British waters.

Hipper is leading the scout element from the Lützow, followed by the hastily repaired Moltke and Seydlitz. His line is screened by Frauenlob and Bremen, and a suadron of Zerstörer.

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Scheer follows him, with his own Zerstörer screen; he leads a task force composed of the Spee, the Derfflinger and the old Von der Tann.

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Their target is Harwich, and it is just after noon when the British coast is sighted through the rain and gale. The British manning the coastal batteries can now see the German fleet too; and they begin manning their stations in a scrambling panic.

The German ships open fire at extreme range, cratering the ground around the British batteries; and the proceed to suppress British fire for the next hour and a half, pounding the harbour installations into smithereens. It is two hours later, after the rain stopped, that the Graf Spee lookouts see the smoke of incoming ships from the south-west.

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The Grand Fleet (or part of it, at least) has responded. Now, Scheer muses, let's see what they have brought to-

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What.

They are still operating predreads? Scheer finds it hard to believe it, but the lookouts are categorical: they identify at least two Mars-class predreads, leading the force. Littoral defense ships? Is that the best that the British can-

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Fire flashes from the British line; twenty seconds later, a shell strikes Derfflinger's X turret and jams it on its bearings.

That's no predread firing - they don't have the range.

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And then new identifications start coming in; and Scheer realises, to his horror, that he's facing a British Dreadnought line.

These are smaller ships than what the Germans have brought, true, with more limited broadsides; but, for the first time, the Germans are facing ships with 10 or more inches of belt armor and similarly or better-armored turrets. These things can brawl, and it's a rude awakening for the Germans.

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A Prince of Wales-class leads the battle-line, firing 13-inch rifles at the Lützow.

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It is followed by an Albion-class and holy crap that's a 14-inch Dreadnought, with 11.5 turret armor.

OK, it's half the size of the Graf Spee, but still...

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No. Scheer decides. This is not why he is here. Not with only one Zähringen-class to brawl with the British battle-line. The Germans have made their point; there is no reason to risk the Flotte any further.

He brings the Graf Spee closer to the enemy, and sails towards the south-east, giving Hipper's task force the chance to slip behind him and begin disengaging. Surprisingly, the Brits ignore the flagship and focus their fire on the trailing Von der Tann, which is hit twice in rapir succession, once on her deck and once on her aft starboard wing turret. Both shells ricochet off, but the turret jams.

In return, the Von der Tann straddles the Prince of Wales, keeping her away from the German force, while the Moltke and the Graf Spee focus their fire on the closing Mars-class predreads. These ships have overextended-

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-and they pay for it. In the half-hour it takes Hipper's force to be in a position to retreat, the two British pre-dreads have been pounded into scrap. But any intention Scheer had of, perhaps, continuing the fight is quickly snuffed out when a 14-inch shell strikes the Derfflinger's fore fire control director, knocking it out of commission. With one of his only three 12-inch Schlachtkreuzer blinded, Scheer has no second thoughts about signaling the fleet to retreat.


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As he does, he orders the Graf Spee to focus her fire on the Albion, scoring a couple of long-range plunging-fire hits on her decks and forcing her to turn away.

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Both fleets disengage. The Germans have been driven off; but, in their wake, they have left a devastated Harwich, and the burning and slowly sinking hulks of the two old battleships, serving as grim reminders of the fact that Britain soil is not inviolate and not beyond the reach of the German fleet.

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The high spirits among the German forces are somewhat dampened by the fact that the Lützow strikes a mine during the journey home.

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The damcon crews spring to action and the ship is saved; she will only need a month in drydock. Sadly, more bad news are waiting for Scheer upon his return. Despite the damage inflicted upon the harbour installations, the naval arsenal (the main target of the raid) is reported by the British to be unharmed; and the coastal batteries prevented Scheer from sinking any merchant ships.

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Instead, the British are crying (literally) bloody murder for the alleged deaths of civilians during the bombardment. Pffft. It was a defended city, with a naval arsenal. Absolutely legitimate target. Deal with it, Brits. No war crimes here.

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However, the sinking of the two battleships is still a significant blow (both material and morale-affecting) and the Germans put this down as a victory. They have struck a blow against Britain in Albion's own home waters; the Brits, on the other hand, have yet to brave the Baltic.

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And the British populace, of course, are well aware of this. The Admiralty is severely criticised for their failure to safeguard the lives and property of British citizens; and large demonstrations take place in London and other large metropolitan centres. For the first time, the opposition takes a clear anti-war stance. In return, several MPs that advocate an honourable peace, if necessary with concessions towards Germany, are arrested. This is followed by week-long strikes and riots, all over Great Britain, with starving citizens taking to the streets in angry protest.

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...And just like that, every single British cruiser is obsolete. Prinz Heinrich can outshoot any cruiser they have; and she's fast enough to escape from the very battlecruisers that are supposed to be her hunters.

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February; and the German submarines once again savage the British merchantmen. The waters to the south-west of Britain are now a ship graveyard.

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And the riots in Britain continue. The situation is bad enough that the Parliament buildings have to be evacuated; the MPs now need to meet in bunkers, under military protection.

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And this is why Germany does not fear the Russians. It's 1918 and they're building 13-inch battlecruisers, with no fire Directors.

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****!


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 17, 2017, 11:32:47 am
I'M SORRY BAGUETTES.

DID YOU NEED THAT LINER?

OH DEAR.

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 19, 2017, 04:47:48 am
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Subs please, you keep doing such an amazing job and then you ruin it by sinking another liner.

(This last battle report kind of needed another screenshot of both fleets, without another window blocking the overview. After the two pre-dreads show up, I couldn't really tell from the screenshots what the disposition of both fleets were)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on September 21, 2017, 02:47:36 pm
Holy autism, this game is on the heavy end of the spectrum. Sign me the **** up!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 21, 2017, 03:05:33 pm
So...uh. You may have noticed that I disappeared for a few days there. That's because I am currently on a field assignment, studying a 7th-century BCE relief-decorated shield, with one of the (if not the) earliest depiction(s) of the Zeus - Typhon duel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhon#Battle_with_Zeus) included in its decoration. As you can imagine, my current mental state can be succintly summarised thusly:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/168c0b7e8e9ccf1b2bb5b58631bfe07c/tumblr_mjm8bu9ZI41s6h1zqo1_500.gif)

Returning home this weekend. Probably update this Saturday or Sunday.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 21, 2017, 03:16:49 pm
Pics or it didn't happen. :P

Bonus points if you are wearing a Fedora
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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 21, 2017, 03:23:09 pm
Can't publish pics...yet. Read all about it in my project blog, which should be going up this November!  :p

I don't own a Fedora. I own a Panama...

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After all, somebody else discovered the shield. :drevil:
Title: Triumph
Post by: Enioch on September 24, 2017, 04:19:17 am
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[...] Compte tenu des actes récents des Autorités Impériales Allemandes en violation des droits Français en haute mer qui ont abouti au torpillage et au naufrage du navire à vapeur Français Aquitaine le 3 mai 1918, par lequel plus de 230 citoyens Français ont perdu la vie, il est clairement judicieux et souhaitable que le gouvernement Français et le gouvernement Impérial Allemand soient parfaitement conscients de la situation grave qui en a résulté. [...]

-Excerpt from an official notice sent by the French Government to the German Authorities, three days after the sinking of the Aquitaine.

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On the night of the 3rd of May 1918, near the coast of Armorique, a German submarine, the U-112, spots a large liner, possibly a troopship. A close inspection of the vessel reveals it to be sailing with its lights extinguished; but sonar operators report that she is regularly sounding her fog horn. Kapitänleutnant Igor Muetz brings his ship closer and confirms that she is the French transatlantic liner Aquitaine, a registered neutral ship. She is within the specified 'war zone', where civilian ships may be subject to submarine attack, but she is a neutral ship and not a valid target. Muetz briefly considers surfacing and offering assistance (it is clear that the ship has sufffered some electrical difficulties), but he finally decides that this would expose his boat to danger from potential British ASW patrols and decides not to risk it. He returns to his hunting grounds and gives the Aquitaine no second thought - after all, if she holds her present course, she will leave the 'war zone' within two or three hours at the most.

Unfortunately for the French liner (that is, indeed, suffering from a massive short-circuit of her electrical systems that, in itself, killed two of its crewmen) Kapitänleutnant Heinrich Körner of the U-132 is not as conscientious or professional as Muetz; and his boat has a temperamental sonar array. Unlike his most experienced and wary colleague, upon spotting what he perceives to be a blacked-out troopship or freighter, Körner immediately snapshots a spread of three torpedoes in her general direction and maneuvers to evade.

The Aquitaine is struck port amidships and sinks within the hour, almost a hundred miles from the French coast. The early spring sea is freezing and there is no time to mount an ordered, complete evacuation. Almost four hundred civilians (men, women and children alike) die, including thirty British, seven Germans, eighty-four Americans and over a hundred and fifty French.

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The vocal protests of Woodrow Wilson's USA is but a distant buzzing in the ears of von Mecklenburg - no matter the American imperialists' protests, Wilson still lacks the popular support he needs to involve the US in a transatlantic war. Similarly, the protests of the Italians and the Japanese do not come as a surprise; and it is possible to stall those. But the massive blow to von Mecklenburg's foreign policy comes from the dramatic (and completely justified) alienation of the French. This is not a (debatably) legal sinking of a British ship (Red Cross or no); this is a clear-cut case of unjustifyingly sinking a neutral ship  - a war crime by any definition of the term, including that of the Germans.

Escalation with France (that would have them, potentially, join the war on the Brits' side) is only averted by the prompt arrest and military trial of Körner. This time, there is no protest from the Admiralität. Tirpitz and Galster are very much aware of how dramatically the situation could change if the Marine Nationale joins the Grand Fleet. War with France would also immediately cut the lifelines of supplies (including military supplies) currently flowing into Germany from the French borders; this, in turn, would lead to a terrifyingly more effective British naval blockade.

Mecklenburg, by now significantly more aged and tired that he was nearly two decades ago, when he first made his debut in the Berlin scene, dances like he's never danced before. He knows that Britain is ready to fold - he knows that it's simply a matter of weeks before the starving populace resorts to extreme measures. He must prevent the revitalisation an alliance with France would bring to the British; and so, he appeases, compromises, obfuscates, makes empty promises. Anything to buy the Admiralität the weeks - days - hours they will need.

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This same urgency permeates the entirety of the German Navy. The submarines have performed quite well, but now Tirpitz pulls them back. There must be no repeat of the Aquitaine this month.

Instead, it is the Hochseeflotte that is sent out to raid. Specifically, the new, G7-class Zerstörer. They are big enough and their range is just long enough to permit them to reach the Celtic Sea; they are fast enough to escape any British light cruisers they might encounter and large enough to smash any British destroyers they might face. It is a desperation measure, but desperate times...

The Schlachtkreuzergeschwader draw the attention of the British fleet near Skaggerak; five Zerstörer slip through the Channel to hit the British convoys. This is a one-way trip; a German-chartered coaler is diverted to resupply them near the northern coast of Spain.

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The Zerstörer are lucky. On the morning of the 25th of March, they sight a large British convoy. Nine massive freighters - American grain transports, mostly - escorted by seven British destroyers.

The German ships form line of attack; Fregattenkapitän Friedrich Halsband's S-22 leading the charge. The freighters are sailing in two groups, of four and five ships; the Germans attack from the south, breaching the British perimeter and engaging the southernmost, five-freighter group with their 100mm guns. As the British destroyers scramble to intercept, the Germans show their broadsides and launch their fish.

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The lead enemy destroyer - a 700-ton Boyne-class ship - eats a German torpedo on her bow and her hull cracks like an eggshell. She flips over and sinks almost immediately.

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But the British destroyermen pay the Germans back, blow for blow. The S-18, one of the newest, mine-bearing G7 Zerstörer, eats a British torpedo in return and suffers the same fate as her opponent.

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But, despite the supreme valour shown by the British, their ships are smaller and less seaworthy than the German Zerstörer and they are too late to save the freighters. The Germans take an utter mauling at the hands of the enemy destroyers: they lose the S-10 as well, to enemy guns; and the G-7 herself only barely makes it to Spain; but, they still manage to sink seven of the nine freighters and skulk away...

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...slipping into a small, localised squall.

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The British, in turn, lose three of their destroyers; but it is the loss of the food transports that hurts them the most. There is little they can do beyond gathering up their survivors, and morosely returning to Britain.

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The surviving German raiders do not feel jubilant either. They have sunk their targets, but have suffered considerable damage themselves. Any plans for a long-lived Zerstörer raiding flotilla operating near the Spanish and French coastlines have been dashed - they have lost two ships and the G-7 will take weeks to repair in neutral ports.

They sail south at cruise speed, blacked-out and under strict radio silence, baby-sitting the crippled G-7 for two rainy, cold, miserable days. And then, having finally entered radio range of the collier Siegfried, they learn the news.

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On the 26th of March, a day that will be forever marked in the history of our world, London burns. Several Army regiments mutiny and march on the British capital; others just...fall apart. Three Dreadnoughts (the Glory, Prince of Wales and the newly-commissioned Redoutable) join in the mutiny and pin the rest of the Grand Fleet in Scapa Flow; they are quickly joined by many other ships.

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Despite the opening chaos, the mutineers manage to re-establish a modicum of control within the next week. There is no question of civil war here - there are only desperate people, who need this war to end. They are quickly joined by several 'Peoples' Delegations' from many cities and boroughs. Their representatives request a Royal audience.

The King and Royal Family are sacrosanct to the mutineers. Even the more cynical amongst them recognise that the legality of their coup depends on their claim that they are respecting the Royal authority. To say that King George V is not pleased to be dealing with the 'rebel socialists' is an understatement. But he is politically savvy enough to recognise that the situation has no conventional solution; and that it is terrifyingly easy to squander the political goodwill his people are willing to accord him.

And so he backs off. The previous Parliament is dissolved, by Royal Decree. The April Armistice with the Germans is negotiated; for the first time in almost a year, food supplies reach the Isles. Elections are held, for the first time including women over 30 years old and all men over 21 into the electoral body. A new government is elected, with a clear peace mandate.

And von Mecklenburg meets with British delegates in Paris, to discuss terms of peace.

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At this point, the Germans, essentially, can dictate what terms they want. But Mecklenburg has a specific agenda, and he pushes it mercilessly.

For two hundred years, the British have ruled the waves. Their colonial Empire spans the globe; it lives and dies by the control of sea traffic. Mecklenburg wishes for this to stop.

The lifeline of Britain - the jugular that connects her with her Far Eastern holdings, including the jewel of the Raj, Hong Kong and Australia - is the Mediterranean. This is the jugular that the Reichskanzler is now poised to rip out.

Negotiations continue for a month, during which the British Grand Fleet remains interned in Brest, under the watchful eyes of the three Zähringens and with skeleton crews. During this time, a limited number of supply ships and freighters are allowed through the German submarine blockade, to bring the bare necessities to the suffering British population.

Eventually, and under von Mecklenburg's ultimatum that hostilities will resume unless an agreement is reached by the 15th of May, the British relent. As a compromise, Mecklenburg agrees to release the British Fleet without claiming any prizes. But, on the other hand, he has secured two holdings for Germany that far surpass any war gains she has seized since the turn of the century.

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First: the Rock. Gibraltar itself. Britain's bastion on the entrance of the Mediterranean for the last three hundred years, now flies the Schwartz-Weiss-Rot.

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Second: Egypt, with her oh-so-precious Suez canal, is ceded to Germany. This is a true humiliation for the British - this is von Mecklenburg's masterstroke. Never mind the hugely profitable cotton crops that are now under new management; never mind the gateway to the Sinai (and, through that, to the oil-rich Arab peninsula) that Egypt provides the Germans: what Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg has achieved, with this, his short victorious war, that lasted less than a year, is to render the Mediterranean a German lake. Both entrances are now controlled by the Reich; and allied Greece serves as a strong buffer state in the Dardanelles region, to keep the Russian Black Sea Fleet bottled in. British sea traffic from the Indian Ocean now needs to either pay absurd tolls to cross the Suez, or circumnavigate Africa.

And, of course, the strategic implications of this paradigm shift in times of war are enormous. Germany can now, at will, deny her enemies the Suez.

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So, finally, there is peace. Germany settles in, grimly satisfied, like a well-fed beast. The Kaiser crows of German superiority; the Navy are the heroes of the day.

And that same satisfaction permeates the Navy as well. They have all done their duty. From the relentless grinding stone of the U-bootflotte, to the daring pirate raids of the light cruisers, to
the overwhelming might of the Schlachtkreuzergeschwader, to the suicidal bravery of the Zerstörer crews: everyone has been a part of this victory.

And the Navy enjoys the fruits of victory as well. With tensions as low as they've ever been - with the world still reeling at the upset that Mecklenburg and his 'Iron Dogs' have brought, the Admiralität grants massive Siegestag pay bonuses to the sailors, followed by blanket leaves of absence for most of the active-duty personnel.

Not the R & D folk, though. They are the unsung heroes; and they are still working hard (perhaps harder now than ever) to digest the treasure-trove of information they have received.

For, amidst the chaos of the burning of London, some designs and blueprints went missing, only to, eventually, find themselves in the hands of the German Intelligence. If some mid-ranking British officers who had seen which way the wind was blowing found themselves somewhat richer, that was a fortuitous coincidence and nothing more. Furthermore, German agents had had multiple chances to covertly (but thoroughly) examine the British ships during their internment in Brest. All their notes were channeled to the German ship designers; and some of these notes were worth their weight in gold.

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Firstly, British gun mounts. They were designed to handle considerably heavier guns than their German analogues. The turret designs of the Camperdowns, for instance, were a revelation in space savings and ergonomic design for the Germans. They were still criminally under-armored, of course; but the Germans now had a radically different base turret layout that they could up- or down-scale to some extent, and modify for their purposes (including a massive increase in armor). Another thing to integrate in the Zähringens' imminent reconstruction.

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Secondly, British guns. Specifically, the complete blueprints to the British BL 15-inch Mk I rifles: the 'big terrors' that had terrorised the Schlachtkreuzer captains.

Here, the engineers were appalled. The British guns were high-caliber, but they exhibited a number of obvious performance faults, that brought to mind Germany's 14-inchers. After beginning work on the Bismarck-class superdreadnoughts, the Germans had experimented extensively with their own 14-inch designs, ironing out many of the early problems. These innovations were now integrated into the BL15Mk1, producing a working prototype of what was classified as the "38cm SK L/45" gun. Caliber was one milimetre lower than the British rifle; but the German gun was 45 calibers long, instead of the British shorter, 42-caliber barrel, which gave it a higher muzzle velocity, extended range and increased penetration, at the expense of a slight reduction in shell weight. This was, again, countered by a drastic redesign of the gun breech, to accept German metal propellant casings, instead of the British warhead-and-bag loading system. This helped push the rate of fire up and provided increased safety.

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Finally, preliminary designs for a new 1500-ton Zerstörer class, reached the surprising conclusion that a hull of that size would be sufficient to support superfiring turrets. This was revolutionary. While the budget of the Admiralität could not support laying down such a class yet (especially after the severe slashing that the military budget had received after peace had been concluded), a small group of naval engineers stayed on the project, with a strange gleam in their eyes.

Passers-by their offices would often see them huddled around ship models, hull framing mockups and blueprints, muttering things like "Nein, wir brauchen schwerere Geschütze, Klaus!"

September 1918; a hundred days after peace is concluded. Let's have a look at the state of the world.

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For the first time in recent history, the Brits are not leading the world in their naval budget. They simply can't afford to outspend the Americans, for now. Thankfully for the brits, their infrastructure has not been significantly hit; they can rebuild pretty quickly. Germany is third, with a yearly budget that dwarfs that of the other powers, but is still sixty million  Reichsmark behind the British one and almost a hundred million behind the 'Muricans.

Germany is far behind her leading competitors in Dreadnought tonnage, as well. She has no 'official' Dreadnoughts in commission: two of the three Fürst Bismarcks are still almost a year away, while work on the third ship of the class, SMS Brandenburg has been frozen due to budgetary difficulties. That said, these three ships combined displace three-quarters the total active Dreadnouht tonnage of the British; and the British have eight Dreads in active service. Germans build bigger and better.

Germany, on the other hand, leads the world in heavy battlecruisers. No surprise there, as the three Zähringens alone clock in at 156k tons and account for almost half her active Schlachtkreuzer tonnage. It is worth noting, however, that none of her active battlecruisers can reach a speed higher than 25 knots (a speed shared by the German Dreadnoughts, under construction) and none of her ships mount any weapon of higher caliber than 12 inches. These ships have served well; but, despite their elite crews and their illustrious careers, they are rapidly falling behind in effectiveness. The early veterans (the Von der Tanns and the Moltkes, in particular, with their lack of torpedo belts, are obsolescent.

Predreads are, of course, irrelevant, as EVERYBODY BUT THE BRITS has realised.

Heavy cruisers are an interesting field of discussion. Here, Germany reigns supreme; but she does so by sacrificing supremacy in the light cruiser field. Once more, Germany builds uncompromising hybrids. Her doctrine has completely discarded the idea of the light cruiser raider; her cruisers are meant to scout and destroy enemy cruisers, with heavy guns. Anti-DD work is considered a secondary function; and the large German Zerstörer are thought sufficient to handle it.

That said, Germany does suffer from a crippling lack of Zerstörer. Yes, in tonnage, her destroyer fleet is quite satisfactory; but in number of hulls not so much. German Zerstörer can usually win one-on-one fights with their contemporary equivalents; but they can't be everywhere.

And as for submarines...

*Dry chuckle*

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Aww, look at Russia and Japan trying to submarine, they honestly think they're intimidating.

Adorabble.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 24, 2017, 04:21:09 am
WHASSUP BRITS

IMMA HELP MYSELF TO THE MED NOW.

NO, PLEASE, DON'T GET UP.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 24, 2017, 06:34:54 am
[From a speech delivered by Kaiser Wilhelm to the Reichstag, on the conclusion of the England War]

Friends! Germans!

Today marks a historic day in german, nay, world history. When my father and grandfather built the German Empire out of the many states, they dreamt of the day when we would finally claim our rightful place amongst the powers of Europe. Proclaiming our Empire's founding in Versailles, rightly conquered, was the first step. Today, we are again victorious. Today, we have shown the world that even its greatest powers are subordinate to us, that all the might of Empire means nothing against the will and might of a unified people. Today, we claim Britains greatest prizes as the spoils of war: Today, Germany truly takes its place in the sun. For this is the price we have asked Britain to pay us to end this war: To grant us dominion over the strait of Gibraltar and the country of Egypt.

Britain has agreed to this. Yes, you heard this right: The black, white and red will now proudly fly at Gibraltar and at Suez. Never again need our merchants pay Britain for quick access to the riches of Asia. Never again need our seamen brave the treacherous Cape of Good Hope to reach our holdings there.

Germany is grateful for the work its greatest sons have done to accomplish this. For were it not for the brilliance, audacity and perseverance of our Admiral von Tirpitz, Admirals Galster and Scheer, the skills and dedication of the thousands of seamen serving on our ships, the genious engineers and scientists even now working at our Universities and at the forges, and of course the iron will of our Chancellor von Mecklenburg, we would not be here today. Yes, the past years have been hard on us. We have fought wars against the Russians, the Italians, the Japanese even, but these were all just preliminaries to this. We will not promise that this was the final war. But what we will promise is that, from now on, we are no longer just the upstart. We will, now and forever, be the leading light of Europe and the world. We will bring our ways and methods to Asia and Africa, and we will make the greater german empire into a beacon of prosperity and advancement to outshine the rest of the world. We welcome our new subjects with open arms, and we hope that they too will enrich us as much as we will enrich them.

What we ask of you is just this: Make this new Empire worthy of the blood, sweat and tears its brave soldiers have shed. Our Chancellor will now give you the details you need to do this, and we will properly honour our heroes tomorrow in our Palace.

[excerpt ends]
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 24, 2017, 06:44:17 am
Ok, that is way too eloquent for KFW. Who wrote the speech for him?  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 24, 2017, 07:16:52 am
I did :P

(In canon, it was probably von Mecklenburg?)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 24, 2017, 08:47:46 am
[...]and of course the iron will of our Chancellor von Mecklenburg [...]

Quote from: Johann Albrecht Herzog zu Mecklenburg
"OK, Willy, and this is where you ****ing thank the others and me profusely or the pain train is going to go Weimar Republic on your mustachioed behind. I'm talking ****ing Orient Express, *****."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 24, 2017, 09:24:22 am
Complete and total victory, get 10 points, India cost is 40. Is it even possible to take over colonies like SA or India at all?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 24, 2017, 09:26:22 am
Invasions
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 24, 2017, 10:09:06 am
[...]and of course the iron will of our Chancellor von Mecklenburg [...]

Quote from: Johann Albrecht Herzog zu Mecklenburg
"OK, Willy, and this is where you ****ing thank the others and me profusely or the pain train is going to go Weimar Republic on your mustachioed behind. I'm talking ****ing Orient Express, *****."

"I can guarantee you that, if you aren't extremely careful right now, the ****ing socialists and communists will do to Berlin what they did to London. We cannot let that happen, ever."
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 25, 2017, 09:03:44 am
Invasions
Well, get on this!
World domination
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 10:17:19 am
Invasions
Well, get on this!
World domination

"A new, hawkish government has come to power..."  :P

The problem with that is that you need to dominate the sea region and have capital ships present to initiate an invasion.

Germany desperately needs  her home fleet back in Europe, because it's where most of the major powers keep their fleets as well. You very rarely get the luxury of having sufficient ships to spare for e.g. an Indian Ocean task force.

Not to say that it's impossible, obviously... :drevil:

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 25, 2017, 10:26:30 am
In gameplay terms, what does possession of Gibraltar and the Suez channel actually do? Suez, I would assume, shortens transfer times to asia, but does Gibraltar allow you to block traffic into and out of the Med or what?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 11:00:39 am
Suez blocks ships from going through if tensions with the country controlling it is >= 7 (with a max of 10) or something around that point (sue me, I don't remember  :p) Interestingly, that does NOT shorten the path from the Northern Atlantic (i.e. Europe) to the far East.

Specifically, there are two ways to go from the Indian Ocean to Europe:

1. Indian Ocean -> Mediterranean (via Suez) -> Northern Atlantic.

2. Indian Ocean -> West Africa -> Northern Atlantic.

So, if you eliminate the first option, you still have the option of covering the same distance in the same time.

What it does deny your opponent are:

1. Options. The Suez is inviolate. If you've blocked it for them, they MUST come via Cape; and you can park your intercepting force in West Africa and smash them there. This is particularly useful if you're hunting a raider and wish to eliminate their options.

2. Good harbors. Unless you pour MILLIONS into them (which, at this point, I have), the harbors of Africa just suck. They cannot support any fleet worthy of the name. In contrast, every harbor in the Med is a well-developed base at game start. So, if you take your fleet via West Africa, your ships are likely to suffer the dreaded "*" modifier, which means 'unmaintained / undersupplied'. Taking them via Med / Suez, on the other hand, pretty much guarantees they will arive in the Indian Ocean / Far East in good condition.

Gibraltar, on the other hand, does not "block" traffic. But if you have this base and a fleet in the Med, it becomes almost impossible not to intercept raiders crossing the straits. I.e. if you have a fast cruiser in the Med and an enemy ship tries to enter either from the Northern Atlantic or the West Africa (or leave the Med for those regions) you are all but guaranteed an intercepting cruiser battle.

Interestingly, Panama does give you both blocking rights AND a shorter route... :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 11:12:50 am
And yes, I know that not having the Suez give you a shorter route is stupid. Personally, I would have split the Indian Ocean into two regions : Indian Ocean and South- East Africa, with the Suez linking to the Indian Ocean. This would have added a month to the circumnavigation route.

That said, Egypt is a moneybin in itself. Even if you disregard the tactical benefits, a 5-value province represents a major income increase.

It still doesn't compare to the 10-point province of Panama, of course. :p ;7
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on September 25, 2017, 11:17:20 am
And yes, I know that not having the Suez give you a shorter route is stupid. Personally, I would have split the Indian Ocean into two regions : Indian Ocean and South- East Africa, with the Suez linking to the Indian Ocean. This would have added a month to the circumnavigation route.

That said, Egypt is a moneybin in itself. Even if you disregard the tactical benefits, a 5-value province represents a major income increase.

It still doesn't compare to the 10-point province of Panama, of course. :p ;7
Are you hinting at obtaining control of Panama after a future war with America here?  :p
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 25, 2017, 11:17:57 am
Spoiler:
he already did
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 11:26:28 am
And yes, I know that not having the Suez give you a shorter route is stupid. Personally, I would have split the Indian Ocean into two regions : Indian Ocean and South- East Africa, with the Suez linking to the Indian Ocean. This would have added a month to the circumnavigation route.

That said, Egypt is a moneybin in itself. Even if you disregard the tactical benefits, a 5-value province represents a major income increase.

It still doesn't compare to the 10-point province of Panama, of course. :p ;7
Are you hinting at obtaining control of Panama after a future war with America here?  :p

I have no idea what you're talking about.  :rolleyes: :nervous:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 25, 2017, 11:56:55 am
Speaking of "VotD" can you access fleet logistics through the build/research trees?  I'd imagine if Regina Marina or the Kaiserliche und Königliche have aspirations outside of the Med they would especially need to invest in some logistics ships.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 12:38:17 pm
Not really. There are techs that increase the endurance and range of ships (mostly linked to the machinery tech subtree), but nothing that directly affects logistics forces

To my knowledge, there is no way you can project logistics support for your vessels into a region where you don't have the necessary base infrastructure (unless, of course you ally yourself with another Power, which enables you to use their harbours).
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 25, 2017, 12:54:52 pm
Dear RtW2 Devs,

Gib ABSD-1 plz.

(http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/28/09280103.jpg)

I have the honor to be.
 
Your obedient servant,

-Jno. Benson
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 25, 2017, 01:29:53 pm
Yes.

I mean this is something that strains my suspension of disbelief quite a bit. A large drydock is expensive and rare; which is, after all one of the reasons why the St-Nazaire raid was so devastating to the Germans.

In RTW, once you unlock a drydock level, it is available, everywhere in your  empire. If one of my Zahringens gets torped in the Indian Ocean and needs to spend a couple of months in drydock, it does not need to sail back to Germany - somehow I have a 52k ton drydock ready in Tanganyika!

I mean, OK, I've dropped more than 40 million Reichsmark on upgrading colonial harbour and dock facilities, but still....

Yeah, logistics (including floating drydocks) is something that I'd love to see in RTW in more detail.

(Frankly, though, I'm more excited for naval aviation; if they have to prioriise one of the two, I'd rather see a good implementation of carriers)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on September 25, 2017, 01:49:50 pm
I do wonder though if the carriers are going to be as effective in killing Battleships as a concept as they were in real life. RTW revels in giving big gun boats the battles they never got to fight in real life (and the associated importance), I wonder if introducing carriers will undercut that.
Title: End of an Era
Post by: Enioch on September 26, 2017, 11:11:35 am
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"Thus do we now and forever entrust this our ship with the memory of our great Reich. Let it be preserved in perpetuity, as a monument to the sacrifice and bravery of the sailors of the Kaiserliche Marine. Let the spirit of the birth of our great nation be enshrined here, for the generations to come to witness and be inspired by."

"With Iron and Blood have we forged Germany; and there is nothing that expresses this more than our fleet. Let us never forget; and if we do, let this proud ship forever remind us. Heil Deutschland!"

-Excerpt from the speech of Reichskanzler Johann Albrecht von Mecklenburg, for the opening of the Deutsches Marinemuseum, Wilhelmshaven


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November 1918: And Italy approaches the Admiralität with a proposal for sale of their rather respectable 13-inch rifles.

The Admiralität actually considers it. The fact is that the Zähringens have proven to be an effective design and, with AON armour designs allowing for considerable weight savings in armour, it is conceivable that the new generation of super-Zähringens might be armed with 13-inchers for that extra heavy shotgun approach. And, if the Italian designs were just a bit better-performing, the Germans would have bit the bullet and gone for the deal. The problem is, however, that the deal, as proposed, would drain the Admiralität budgetary reserves by half, in a period where the Admiralität was running a 3-million-Reichsmark monthly deficit.

And that made the deal just a little too expensive for Tirpitz and Galster.

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And, of course, German R & D is never idle. Shortly after the Neujahr, new ways to calculate weight distribution and bracing are introduced in German shipyards; and, following that, the new Mk. IV depth charges are issued to the Piepers. Like I said, it's precious seeing the Russians and the Japanese think they can effectively utilise submarines against the people who bloody invented submarine warfare.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/vubao3dx5/Screenshot_4274.png)

Oh. Oh, Nicky. Oh, you shouldn't have.

This the Admiralität cannot pass by. Work on the Bismarck is frozen for a month, just to economise the funds necessary. After all, German Zerstörer are stuck using 4-inch guns, because of the inferior 5-inch designs Germany has to deal with. This upgrade will massively improve German light forces, not to mention the dramatic increase in effectiveness for capital ship secondary batteries.

It also underlines...interesting developments in Russia. Von Mecklenburg is concerned. The British mutiny / revolution is somehow...echoing in Russia; there is considerable unrest amongst the population. Socialist troublemakers are on the rise and the state's coffers are empty. Russia has to sell gun designs to keep her fleet maintained...

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Oh God.

Oh-ho-ho-ho. Who needs 13-inch guns, when 12-inchers can now rip through 15 inches of belt armor at 8k yards?

(https://s26.postimg.cc/s0mfsolyx/Screenshot_4276.png)

Ahahahaha.

Forget the overland route via Balkans and Austria-Hungary. Germany now owns Gibraltar. Tankers are now a valid option for transporting oil from the Rhodes fields to the harbours of the Baltic; and Germany industry explodes.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/45ongkqwp/Screenshot_4277.png)

Ahahahaha. 1919 and the Italians don't even have directors. No, Spaghettis.

After all, you don't need a navy anymore. Germany is here to maintain Ordnung in the Mare Germanicum. Go have some Pizza or Pasta or something.

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(https://s26.postimg.cc/hudu9p1kp/Screenshot_4279.png)

FFFFFFfffffffffyyyyyesssss. Dat inclined armour, in particular. Oh mein Gott, das ist wunderbar.

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(https://s26.postimg.cc/ps4mtubw9/hith-assassination-of-archduke-franz-ferdinand-_E.jpg)

Well, Scheisse.

Germany does not want war at this point. What she wants - what Mecklenburg wants, is to consolidate. By now, he is a tired, worn-out man, exhausted by almost twenty years of the Great Game. He wishes to impose peace, make sure that Germany can dig in, fortify herself and her new holdings; move her economy from a war- to a peace-footing. Deal with the internal socialist threat, even.

But the assassination of the Austrian Ambassador to Serajevo knocks all that out the window.

Emperor Franz Ferdinand is, understandably, livid, but he urges caution. There is potential Russian influence here, he thinks; and it is better to play safe than to rush into a potential war pell-mell. But it is important that Austria-Hungary demonstrates her willingness to pursue justice and to protect her citizens. Demands must be made.

Is Germany - the Power in Europe - willing to stand behind Austria in this matter?

Mecklenburg, sadly, confirms that they are.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/5sety1pdl/Tensions8.png)

Wait, what the ****?

OK, the Russians get prissy, but that's expected. It happens every time someone messes with 'their' Balkans. And the Italians...OK, Mecklenburg had no intelligence reports that might have implied that the Italians may have been involved, but they're, arguably, Balkan neighbours as well; it's understandable that they may wish to capitalise on the situation.

But what has put a bee in the bonnet of the F...?

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Could the assassination have been a French-mandated operation?!

Mecklenburg immediately goes to high alert.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/qygunvsjd/Screenshot_4282.png)

If so, this could not have been a more fortuitous timing. Welcome to the fleet, Wettin!

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And all of this is, of course, very welcome...

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Unffffff.....

Hello there, high-grade optics.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/5anazp2rd/Screenshot_4287.png)

Yes, you bet your ass we want you on the Bismarck.

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Well, crap.

In all honesty, the Admiralität are not surprised. The Hansas were a testbed for oil-fired boilers, after all; and it's not unreasonable to experience some teething problems. And 31 knots for a heavy cruiser of their caliber is not bad at all. Welcome to the fleet!

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Krupp want to sell guns to the Austrians - primarily 4-, 5- and 6-inch field artillery conversions of the German naval guns. It would be folly to hinder them; Germany now lives and profits off her industry and Mecklenburg has always been a firm supporter of German industrialisation. Plus, Austria-Hungary is a close ally, with a less-than-optimal industrial base of her own. She must be kept supplied, to maintain her grip on the Serbian Beast.

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Tensions climb, after the deal is struck; and Mecklenburg confirms that the French are being much too vocal for someone who has no stakes on the Balkans. There are rumours that they are currently working together with the Anglophile Greek Prime Minister, Venizelos, to undermine the position of the German-friendly King Constantine I; this is way too much involvement on the Balkans for Mecklenburg to feel comfortable. His Majesty, the Kaiser, is slowly gearing up his famous anger and gall; Mecklenburg is tearing out what little hair he has left.

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But, for a brief few days in September 1919, all this is placed on the back burner. For Tirpitz and Galster, shortly before the former's formal retirement, decide to decommission and scrap the three surviving Victoria Louises: SMS Hertha, SMS Vineta and SMS Victoria Louise.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/50py42pbt/tanya_degurechaff_youjo_senki_7c7a2e67fb18e03.jpg)

It is an emotional and sad moment for the Admiralität. These were old and obsolete ships, true; but they had served faithfully for almost twenty years; and they had safeguarded Germany in her darkest hours. Galster is devastated by the imminent scrapping of his old darling, Hertha; in an impulsive moment, he semi-jokingly proposes a public subscription, to preserve the Old Lady.

The response is staggering, and surpasses all expectations. Every officer, every rating, every engineer and dockhand, contribute something to the cause.

But it is an unexpected benefactor who comes to Hertha's aid. His Majesty, the Kaiser, finds out about the scrapping plans. He immediately jumps to action, in a very characteristic, impulsive manner. This time, however, his actions earn him the loyalty of the Kaiserliche Marine for life.

On the 15th of Semptember, His Majesty storms the Admiralität buildings, unannounced.

"By God," he cries, his ire truly something to behold, "by God, you shall not kill my Valkyrie when the Russians, the Italians and the bloody British failed to! "

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What follows is a direct order: Hertha is to be spared the breakers. She will be kept in permanent mooring in Wilhelmshaven, maintained by public subscription and funding from the Palace, and she will, eventually, be made into the centrepiece of a new Marinemuseum, to celebrate Germany's sovereignty of the seas.

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Let's be honest, the Old Lady is worth it. Her war record is more than impressive; and she is a symbol of the very finest in German naval history.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/bhv2icvjt/440px-_SMS_K_nigsberg_German_cruiser.jpg)

The decommissioning never takes place. Hertha is kept in active status; the opening of the new Marinemuseum officially takes place on the fourth of October. Let it never be said that Germans cannot move quickly, if the need arises!

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...And then, back to the Balkans' hell-pit. Serbia is making angry noises towards both Austria, to the north, and Greece, to the south. Russia, France and Italy all support the Serbs, to varying degrees.

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In response, Germany lays down her new superdreadnought.

The Elsass (whoooooo, if that ain't taking the piss at the French, I don't know what is) is a major improvement over everything the Bismarcks are. At 50.5k tons, she is as well armored as her predecessors, with a 17-inch belt and turrets, a 3-inch deck and an 18-inch conning tower; but her armor is inclined, for extra protection (German turtleback FTW!) She bears the same secondary battery as the Bismarcks (German engineers are not as familiar with the Russian 5-inchers as they would like, yet), but her main armament consists of 12 38cm SK L/45 rifles (this being the first time the German 15-inchers are fitted to a ship). The guns can elevate to 35 degrees; they are controlled by the new Improved German Directors; and the secondary battery is built to utilise a secondary director, for increased accuracy.

The Elsass burn oil and can comfortably reach the standard 25-knots of the German battleline. All-in-all, they're beasts, and the final (?) crystallisation of the Bismarck doctrine of 'moving to close range and blowing your ****ing face off, Frenchy'. Two ships are laid down: Elsass herself, and her sister-ship, Schwaben, the name selected to honour the old pre-dread veteran of the Russian and Italian wars.

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Damn right.

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FFfffffffff.....

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.....

What the **** do the French care about the Germans putting down a revolution in Tanganyika? Look at the Italians - they don't give a **** (which immediately marks them to Mecklenburg as honestly concerned for the Balkan situation and not as plotting to backstab Germany). But the French, and the Russians (wtf?) and the British.....

Britain. What the hell?.

Mecklenburg begins to draft his first round of responses. He plans to bully Britain into submission (it has been only a year and a half since peace was signed), impose sanctions on Russia and test the waters with France, in order to avoid a war. But he never has the chance to.

On the 14th of December, 1919, his weakened constitution finally fails him. On the way to his office, he suffers a stroke and collapses on the stairs of the Reichstag. He is rushed to a hospital, but predictions are grim.

He still lingers on, until the 16th of February, phasing in and out of consciousness, and ranging from completely lucid to insensate. He is visited by Kaiser Wilhelm on his deathbed; it is never revealed what the two men talk about, but the Kaiser leaves near tears and secludes himself for several months, in mourning for whom he claims to have been "Our only true friend and the best and most loyal German of our time."

In the afternoon of the 16th of February 1920, von Mecklenburg dies of a stroke-induced heart attack, in his Schloss Wiligrad, in Lübstorf. He is only 62 years old.

In his eighteen years of service, von Mecklenburg has taken a promising, rising land power, and developed it into a colonial empire and sea Power to rival and surpass the British. In the best traditions of Bismarck, he has wielded German steel and blood like weapons of peace and war; and he has left his mark on German history.

(https://s26.postimg.cc/o5ff8lzuh/800px-_Grabmal_Hrzg_Johann_Albrecht_II_von_Mecklb.jpg)

The funeral procession for the 'Chancellor of the Seas' (Meereskanzler), as von Mecklenburg came to be known, took place on the 18th of February. His body was laid in state; and then, moved to the Doberan monastery, in Mecklenburg, where it was laid to rest with his first wife. His funerary monument is still visible and visitable today; many thousands of Germans pay their respects every year.

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...**** you, Americans, we're mourning!

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 26, 2017, 11:18:34 am
...I HAVE NOTHING.

... :(

A short hiatus for a bit, while I try to power my way through the OTL inter-war period politics and find a worthy / likely successor to von Mecklenburg. If you have any suggestions for interesting events (or if some of you omake-writers wish to burn some of that well-deserved goodwill you have amassed with me to ask for something in particular), feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on September 26, 2017, 01:13:24 pm
...and the world held its collective breath, for the mighty German Ship of State found itself without a pilot whilst navigating increasingly troubled waters.  Chancellors Bismarck and Mecklenburg had forged a blade of unparalleled keenness but without a leader with the Fingerspitzengefühl to wield it, their works could easily be unraveled.  In the wake of Mecklenburg's death those powers jealous of Germany's rapid ascent smelled blood in the water and readied to pounce if the Eagle appeared to falter...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scourge of Ages on September 26, 2017, 07:04:23 pm
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I remember when I first visited Hertha at the new Marinemuseum. I was only 15 years old, and she had only been back home in Wilhelmshaven for four months.

In the galley, I could still smell faint scent of meat and bread. The ceilings still had a faint dusting of flour and sugar.
In the racks, I could still smell the sailors who had lived here for years after years. Some of them had left personal photos and notes stuck to the walls.
In the engine room, The odor of coal fires hung in the air and intoxicated me.

The stories of the sailors and officers I could feel in that ship stirred something in me. The way the staff of the museum stood in honor of Mecklenburg every morning on the deck of the ship, and the sheer presense that Hertha imposed over the harbor set me on a course in life that would change the essense of my being.

     -Nickolaus Kohler, Executive Officer of Light Cruiser Karlsruhe, from the introduction to his memoirs
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on September 27, 2017, 04:07:51 am
The Netherlands de-mobilizes.

After the complete collapse of the UK government in the Ango-German war, The Netherlands has slowly started to reduce it's military readiness. The Netherlands has persued a policy of armed neutrality (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miGbX0LaM_w), fearing that a pacifistic stance would lead to them being invaded by either side because of their strategic and economic position.

Led by a liberal government under Cort van der Linden, the small country has weathered heavy storms and famine during the war. The low lands have recently undergone significant constitutional changes, replacing it's district voting system with a parliamentary system with equal representation, and it has allowed all men to vote and all women to be voted for. Laws allowing all women to vote are in the works, and are set to be put into law this year in time for the next election.

The Netherlands had to negotiate some very tough concessions with both sides during this war. Her politics initially favoured the German side due to the obvious economic ties, both argued for by the shipping companies in Rotterdam and the famous airplane inventor Fokker, but the German's focus on unrestricted submarine warfare has cooled relations considerably. Van der Linden has stated that he is hopeful that they can repair their relationship with the Germans, although it looks as if foreign politics will not be the primary focus of the Dutch government the coming years. Instead, Van Der Linden's government has recently passed the "Southern Sea Law", that allows dutch engineer Lely to conduct a massively ambitious project that involves turning the Netherlands' internal Southern Sea into an internal lake, putting an end to coastal flooding in large parts in the Netherlands by virtue of removing said coast entirely. Additionally, the building of the so called Afsluitdijk (Shutterdike) will allow a significant amount of land to be reclaimed. If any future war should break out, the Netherlands will have a lot of additional farmland that would help maintain it's independence.

(http://www.nieuwlanderfgoed.nl/beeld/studiecentrum/themas/wieg/_800/18.jpg)
Lely's plan. The Afsluitdijk will be built between the (soon-not-to-be) island of Wieringen and the dutch province of Friesland, which will allow further land reclamation projects in the Southern Sea (to be renamed Ijssel Lake)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on September 29, 2017, 09:25:38 am
Not really. There are techs that increase the endurance and range of ships (mostly linked to the machinery tech subtree), but nothing that directly affects logistics forces

To my knowledge, there is no way you can project logistics support for your vessels into a region where you don't have the necessary base infrastructure (unless, of course you ally yourself with another Power, which enables you to use their harbours).

Silly question perhaps, but - does this also affect the AI? I've noticed that on occasion the AI will send fleets into areas where they really ought not to be able to support them, sometimes for more than a couple of turns or so.

As an example - playing as Japan I have Formosa in SE Asia, which has a base capacity of 100 at game's start, which is fine but not great. Ze Germans on the other hand, have 3-5 holdings in SE Asia iirc, but their combined base capacity is <30. It bothers me that I have to pull ships back due to lack of base capacity, yet Ze Germans seem to be able to sail massive fleets there with impunity.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on September 29, 2017, 09:29:34 am
Yes, this also affects the AI. If the Germans are sending massive fleets to SE Asia without having upgraded their bases there, they are suffering from maintenance and logistics troubles.
Title: The Old and the New
Post by: Enioch on October 10, 2017, 06:10:16 pm
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- PART 6 -
Endangered Legacy

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Von Mecklenburg's funeral process in Berlin, prior to his interrement

With the death of His Excellency, a climate of uncertainty descended upon the Admiralität. The situation was not helped at all by my imminent retirement. The succession of command was assured: the reins of the Navy would pass to my good friend, Admiral Galster; and, from there, to the new generation of Staff Officers, such as Admirals Scheer, Hipper and von Görtz. But the political will that had stood behind us for two decades now, and had helped us forge our Navy from a minor fleet to a Power to threaten Britain was lost forever. And, in these uncertain times, with von Mecklenburg's guiding light extinguished, we all feared that His Majesty might not find the best course.

I wish to believe that the decision of General Hindenburg and myself to pursue a political career after our retirement from the Army and Navy, respectively, may have helped to ameliorate the circumstances. We did our best to remain true to His Excellency's memory and carry on his work - to encourage peace with France, who had been our steadfast ally. But we were always organisers and never truly diplomats, unfamiliar with the arena in which he had reigned supreme during his time. We were unprepared for the criminal - I maintain that it was criminal and yes, you may quote me, Sir, black and white, on paper - incompetence of his successor.

-Großadmiral v. Tirpitz, Excerpt from an Interview with Le Temps, 11 May 1927 Issue.

With the death of von Mecklenburg, the political landscape of Germany enters one of its most tense periods in modern history. The Kaiser is mourning, in the emotional, impulsive and passinate manner in which he does everything; and there are many (both inside and outside Germany) who seek to take advantage of this fact for their own ends. In the weeks after the Meereskanzler's death, three major players enter the political battlefield:


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Left: Paul von Hindenburg, Centre: Franz von Papen, Right: Gustav Stresemann

The first is General Paul von Hindenburg, a veteran of the Russian wars and one of the most celebrated Army officers of 20th-century Germany. The battlefields of the Baltic provinces have molded him into a spartan, serious man, with a talent for multitasking and coordinating. He has, officially retired from the Army, but his influence is still felt in the upper echelons; he is neutral to friendly towards both Tirpitz and Galster; and he is a staunch centralist and conservative. He has often been accused that his loyalty lies with the central authority itself and not with the person of His Imperial Majesty; but those who know him know that his patriotism is beyond reproach.

Tirpitz, now entering military retirement himself, jockeys to support Hindenburg. With Galster still holding the reins to the Admiralität, the military is presenting a unified front, behind the heroes of the Russian and British wars, of Sea and Land. What they are lacking in is any experience in the political game. This was handled by Mecklenburg in the past; without his support, the military men are left without the diplomatic genius they need to move forward.

A second contender is Franz von Papen, backed by many prominent noble families. Like Hindenburg, he is a decorated veteran of the Russian wars, but unlike the General, von Papen does have minimal diplomatic experience, having been sent to Italy and then the USA for a short stint as an Ambassador's Aide. He is also known to the Kaiser, for his near-fanatical devotion to the Crown. He is almost religiously monarchist. In that, he reminds the military camp of von Bülow; however, whereas the Eel only acted in such a way as to ingratiate himself to Wilhelm, von Papen is an ardent believer. He is also very-well networked; well-enough that his appalling lack of skill in the international political game is overlooked thanks to his infuriatingly pleasant personality.

A final 'leg' for the German political trifectum is an (until then) little-known official and aide to von Mecklenburg: Gustav Stresemann. He is a small, sickly man who ardently desired to serve his country in the front, yet was rejected for health reasons. His talent, however, was recognised by von Mecklenburg; and he was invited to participate as a key trusted figure in the German Foreign Ministry. His political beliefs were, originally, worryingly liberalist; but his service with Mecklenburg has led him into a gradual but noticeable shift towards the monarchy.

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It is, primarily, Hindenburg and Tirpitz who have the ear of the Kaiser at this time; and it is they who convice Wilhelm to end his self-imposed period of isolation, to put the teetering edifice of the German State back on its tracks. But their impassioned pleas with the Kaiser have an adverse effect: they are kept away from the Berlin political scene for almost two weeks. This is enough for the von Papen bloc to establish itself as a viable alternative to the Old Guard. Von Papen (or, indeed, his supporters, for he utterly lacks the skill to formulate a self-consistent plan and execute it effectively) pushes for a peace-based policy and polarises the Volk against what is perceived to be the Kriegesparteien.

Wilhelm, upon his return, finds himself between a rock and a hard place. He cannot afford to be shown to sideline the Old Guard, not after their meritorious service; but he also cannot ignore the strength of the von Papen bloc.

Hindenburg and Tirpitz believe that von Papen can be controlled; they agree to the formation of a compromise coalition government, with von Papen as Chancellor and Hindenburg as Head of the newly-established Reichswehrministerium. Wilhelm also insists on Stresemann being appointed head of the Auswärtiges Amt and proves unshakeable in this; many suspect that he is following Mecklenburg's deathbed desires.

Stresemann is not impressed; and seeks to warn both Hindenburg and the Kaiser that von Papen is not the easily-controlled pawn that they think he is, but is, in fact, a dangerous fool and open to many influences, internal and external. He fails in this, one of the most critical moments in his career. The new government is sworn in on the 5th of January 1920.

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Meanwhile, Galster, now Grossadmiral and head of the Admiralität, tightens the reins and overlooks his domain like a hawk. Expenses are whittled down and fleet-wide gunnery training is re-established. The German sailors have rested enough. Soon enough they might be called to serve again.

The commissioning of the Prinz Adalbert into the Navy is very welcome.

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No, 'Murica. **** off. Germany has no desire whatsoever to share her damcon technologies with other nations.

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Yes.

Germany knows where progress lies. The U-Boote were instrumental in the last war, and they might prove to be again. They must not be allowed to become obsolete. These new torpedoes will help with this. 5k yards at 37 knots? Yes, please.

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March arrives, and the situation is...volatile.

On the one hand, the Bismarcks and the Zähringens finish their reconstruction. They are all provided with the best new FC systems; Galster chooses not to upgrade the Zähringens' artillery yet. That would take almost eight months; and the political situation is...

Well, this is the bad news.

It has been two and a half months since von Papen has assumed the post of the Reichskanzler. In this short time, he has done an utter pig's breakfast of it.

It is a good thing that Stresemann is, officially, the Foreign Minister, for he manages to somewhat put out the flames. But von Papen (and his noble supporters) insist on working behind his back. In an attempt to imitate the Realpolitik sagas of Bismarck and Mecklenburg, von Papen becomes involved in several espionage and sabotage plots against France and Russia. Plots that are executed in the most amateurish and ham-fisted way possible, often behind the back of Stresemann, and often directly against the Reichskanzler's instructions to his Foreign Minister.

Surprisingly, it is the Kaiser who comes to the aid of poor Stresemann. He approaches the Old Guard, with a suggestion for a regatta and a naval gathering. It might help reduce international tensions. It might help defuse the situation with France. But the Ministry of Finance, under von Papen's control, drags their heels; and the situation is urgent. Perhaps the Admiralität...?

Galster meets with His Majesty, Hindenburg, Tirpitz (and Stresemann, who is, of course, included in the planning). Galster, having been brought up to date on the political situation, immediately agrees. The Navy will finance this. The Navy must finance this.

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The Wilhelmshaven Review is a great success. Stresemann dances; and he succeeds in convincing British, Italian and Russian delegates that Germany has no intentions to rekindle old emnities. Peace is the order of the day.

Now, if only the Reichskanzler agreed....

The French are not convinced, at all. Two days before the regatta, a German-paid mole was apprehended in Brest, with several secret documents in his possession. One implicated von Papen himself, in a  plot to destroy the harbour infrastructure of the city. The French are suspicious: not so much of von Papen himself (because they cannot believe that someone would be stupid or clumsy enough to allow himself to be implicated in such a way) but of Germany in general.

Tensions stay up.

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April. And, once again, news are mixed.

On the one hand, R & D provides Galster with the plans for massive 15-foot rangefinders. These things are absurdly big; and their stabilisation systems are as complex as they are. But they will greatly improve German gunnery and their installation on the Elsass and her sister is immediately planned and executed.

On the other hand...

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Admiral Büchsel, the victor of Bornholm, the hero of the Russian wars, dies on the 7th, quietly, calmly, on his bed. He is the first of the Old Guard to go. And his death, after that of Mecklenburg, hits the Admiralität hard. Galster mourns for his friend and warrior brother; Tirpitz leads the Kriegesparteien on a three-day mourning period for the 'Hero of Bornholm'.

Büchsel may not have been as politically active as his fellows; but his contribution to the development of German naval power cannot be underestimated. Whereas Tirpitz was the father of the German battle-line, he was her teacher and guardian. It was his tactics and his strategy that shaped the German way of thinking in naval warfare - and he was the first German Admiral to lead Schlachtkreuzer into battle.

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So, when this came to light, the Admiralität had very little patience for it. Neither had the Kaiser.

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And then this. This infernal event.

On the 27th of May, the old, glorious Frauenlob is sailing north of Emden, with a training crew of young cadets and hands. At 14:25, an unidentified submarine is spotted on her portside; her captain immediately takes evasive action, but it's too late. A torpedo - a cowardly, treacherous strike - hits her on the bows.

There are three Zerstörer on station; and the submarine is driven off. The Frauenlob floods; but she has six veteran NCOs aboard, that have battlefield experience, two of which were once deckhands on the Moltke. They lead the trainees on a desperate fight to save the old darling. They succeed. Frauenlob barely reaches Emden; but she does, and when she does, Germany explodes. The Germans wanted peace. But others, apparently, did not; and they would strike treacherously, with a dagger in the back, instead of a proud sword.

No. This would not stand.

Stresemann, Hindenburg and Galster race to the Kaiser, going behind the back of von Papen who, like Bismarck of old, insists on being the sole point of access to the Kaiser for his Ministers. They explain to His Majesty, in no uncertain terms, that this is the time of caution. They beg for time, for a chance to investigate, to indentify the attackers, to, perhaps, seek out a diplomatic solution.

It is too late. Von Papen is moving backstage, with all the discretion and care of a bull in a china shop; and he is no Mecklenburg.

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On the 29th of May 1920, ultimatums are exchanged. The German and French armies mobilise, along the border lines.

It has been twenty years of peace in the Kerneuropa. These twenty years have been Mecklenburg's life work. He has toiled and worked himself literally to death, to claw these twenty years from war's grasp; twenty years of building the future, pebble by bloody pebble.

It only takes von Papen five months to tear it all down. Less than half a year after von Mecklenburg's death, all that the Meereskanzler has built crumbles and falls into the chaos of war once more.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 10, 2017, 06:12:01 pm
ATEN'T DEAD.

JUST STARTING WORK ON MY ACTUAL JOB.

UPDATES WILL CONTINUE, DON'T WORRY.

THE_E, LOOK AT WHAT YOU"VE DONE. I HOPE YOU'RE PROUD OF YOURSELF, YOUNG MAN.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on October 11, 2017, 01:55:30 am
It's beautiful
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 11, 2017, 05:18:46 am
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED.

For those who have no knowledge of the interwar German politics, von Papen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen) is widely considered to be the man who allowed Hitler to rise to power, because he thought that he could keep the Austrian corporal under control (all the topkeks, only no topkeks, because that's tragic).

Just to make sure you understand what an utter imbecile the man was: he was a military attache in the US and he spent his time there trying to sabotage the Americans and the British. His plans included an invasion of Canada by an Irish-American and German-American 'cowboy' force; the arming of the Hindus in California as an anti-British force; the dynamiting of a Canadian Pacific Railroad Bridge; the sabotage of the Tampico Mexican Oil Fields (that, hilariously, also supplied the German Navy with oil). All this with an utter disregard for the very basic tenets of operational security. He personally forgot a briefcase full of secret documents on a New York tram.

You can't make this **** up.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on October 11, 2017, 08:02:30 am
He is the Crystal Skull to the Kaiser's Temple of Doom.  The former makes the latter look brilliant in hindsight. :wakka:

Also
THE_E, LOOK AT WHAT YOU"VE DONE. I HOPE YOU'RE PROUD OF YOURSELF, YOUNG MAN.

Why is The_E responsible for this dummkopf getting the reigns?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 11, 2017, 08:04:24 am
Why is The_E responsible for this dummkopf getting the reigns?

Because he used one of his hard-earned omake-writing privileges.  ;)  :p

And because his suggestion fit like a glove.
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Post by: crizza on October 11, 2017, 08:09:32 am
The real question is: Papen beeing the fool he is, would he sanction a black Ops strike at the Frauenlob, to start the war with France? ;7
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Post by: Enioch on October 11, 2017, 08:28:13 am
The real question is: Papen beeing the fool he is, would he sanction a back Ops strike at the Frauenlob, to start the war with France? ;7

A very good question, that.

I'm glad you asked it.

What do you think? :)
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Post by: The E on October 11, 2017, 03:08:47 pm
It's exactly the kind of bull**** von Papen would come up with.

However, that opens just further questions. Such as, who would want to drive such a wedge between France and Germany?
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Post by: Spoon on October 11, 2017, 04:24:09 pm
Belgium

You can't trust those waffleeaters I tell ya!
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Post by: Enioch on October 11, 2017, 04:26:09 pm
Oy. I live in Belgium.

 :nervous:

...Actually, yeah, that sounds par for the course.

(Srsly though, Belgium is probably the country that least wants a franco-german war...)

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Post by: StarSlayer on October 11, 2017, 09:44:13 pm
Pseudo French Bastards!

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Post by: -Joshua- on October 12, 2017, 04:55:52 pm
It's exactly the kind of bull**** von Papen would come up with.

However, that opens just further questions. Such as, who would want to drive such a wedge between France and Germany?

Meanwhile, in Britain...
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Post by: -Joshua- on October 12, 2017, 05:04:32 pm
Oy. I live in Belgium.

Still the best country.
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Post by: Enioch on October 13, 2017, 05:13:47 am

It's exactly the kind of bull**** von Papen would come up with.

However, that opens just further questions. Such as, who would want to drive such a wedge between France and Germany?

Meanwhile, in Britain...
*snip*

Aah, Humphrey. Always a pleasure; and his comments are so insightful...


Oy. I live in Belgium.

Still the best country.

 :nervous:

 :blah:

...not exactly what I said.
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Post by: The E on October 13, 2017, 07:01:30 am
[Excerpt of the report of the Frauenlob incident investigation by the french Navy]

Report of Lieutenant de vaisseau Éric Levett, commanding officer of submarine Q47 Circé

On the 25th of May, we received orders to enter german territorial waters near Emden. We were tasked with intelligence gathering; a bit of housekeeping, really. We were supposed to observe german training maneuvers there, to get an accurate picture of which vessels were currently on patrol duty and which ones were being pulled back.

We arrived on station near the frisian islands the next day. Supplemental reports we received indicated that SMS Frauenlob had set sail that day, and so we were loitering near Borkum. We sighted Frauenlob in the late afternoon, and began shadowing the ship from a safe distance of at least 500 yards at all time. On May 27th, Frauenlob began the day with a bit of gunnery training; live-fire exercises, from what we could tell. This lasted until around 1130, when she proceeded to rendezvous with another imperial ship, which we tentatively identified as SMS Prinz Adalbert, one of their new heavy cruisers. The two ships then started to engage in a mock battle, presumably to test Prinz Adalbert's fire control systems.

At around 1420, we saw Frauenlob enter into rapid evasive maneuvers. My sonar operator informed me that he heard torpedoes in the water, heading towards Frauenlob at high speed. We observed a hit on Frauenlob, and I quickly decided that it would be best to abort our mission lest we get spotted by the germans, so we made best speed to open waters and then back to our home port.
Title: Explosive Fromage
Post by: Enioch on October 13, 2017, 04:51:17 pm
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Names, lives and individuals are unimportant when Germany's final fate is at stake.

-From the personal notes of Franz von Papen, quoted in Piotr Fiyodorowski The French Matter, Berlin : Hauser Vlg. 1958



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Hindenburg is ready to tear his mustache off at the utter incompetence of his new Chancellor. Germany's wars live and die by preparation; by having a plan, by communicating and by allowing the military to draw up a satisfactory strategy before pulling the metaphorical trigger. This has not taken place here. Certainly, war with France was a very real danger, that the military was making preparations against - but nobody expected a war this soon. The Army is not fully mobilised; the Navy is still in its harbours.

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For a few days, Hindenburg lives in a nightmare, certain that what he will have to deal with is a reversal of 1870. But the French, surprisingly, seem to be as unprepared as the Germans, and they do not press their advantage. As the regiments reinforce the defensive line against the border, Hindenburg reaches out to the Navy. Out of all the German armed forces, they are at the highest readiness status. They need to buy him time; they need to push the French and regain the initiative; keep the enemy's attention focused on them, while the Army gets its act together and prepares for an offensive.

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Galster responds by authorising a massive fleet patrol along the Dutch coast. Stresemann backs him by outright declaring that Germany will guarantee Dutch neutrality; and her fleet is on station to block the eastern mouth of the English Channel.

The British Fleet cowers in its harbours, as the Zähringens sail out...

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...and so do the French. The Netherlands are safe, under the protection of the German Schlachtkreuzergeschwader. Now for Belgium...

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The Admiralität takes advantage of securing the North Sea to sail in several large resupply convoys.

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The French do not dare to leave their ports.

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This is not enough for Galster. He needs to draw the attention of the French High Command; he needs to present them with a challenge that they must respond to. So, on the 2nd of June, the Zähringen and the Graf Spee, escorted by the Bremen, sail past the French garrisons in Armorique and enter the coastal waters of La Rochelle. It is a flagrant challenge; a contemptuous slap on the face of the French; and the French finally respond.

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9:45am, and the Bremen, approaching the French coastline from the North-West, spots enemy smoke. At least two ships; and one of them is a capital. Behind her, Hipper, on board the Graf Spee, rouses his crew to action stations; alarms blare loud enough to wake the dead.

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Bremen, captained by Fregattenkapitän Markus Vogler safely identifies the nearest ship as an Epée-class destroyer. She's laying smoke, to conceal her allies; Vogler opens fire against her with Bremen's 6-inchers, as the Schlachtkreuzer charge in.

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The French destroyer is driven away, and the German capital ships push through her smoke screen, spotting a French light cruiser and...two more ships (?) in the distance. The lookouts are uncertain; gunnery, for now, focuses on the French cruiser.

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But then the Bremen rejoins the fleet, the Epée safely driven off, and her veteran lookouts identify the enemy ships as capitals. Specifically, two Marseille-class 14-inch battlecruisers closing from the south...

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And a French Toulouse-class 36k-ton dreadnought approaching from the north. Holy crap. OK, this thing has only a 9-inch belt, but it carries 12 14-inchers, as many as the Bismarcks...

Hipper doesn't give a flying ****. He has charged his ships into British 15-inch fire; it's not the French peashooters that will scare him.

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SCHLACHTKREUZER RAN AN DEN FEIND!

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The German ships turn, to pursue the French battlecruisers. They are slower than the enemy ships, but the French have, foolishly, allowed themselves to enter the range of the German 12-inchers. Zähringen scores the first hit, from a range of over 20k yards. The new 15-foot rangefinders work perfectly.

Meanwhile, Bremen moves to the north, in a screening action. She drops smoke, that interferes with the Toulouse's targeting. Hipper wants his duel with the French battlecruisers to remain uninterrupted; Vogler does his best to oblige him.

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He succeeds. Oh God does he succeed.

Over the course of twenty minutes, and while the French are still trying to find the range on the relentlessly charging German behemoths, the Graf Spee and the Zähringen lock on to the two Marseilles and pound them, mercilessly. Hipper knows that his time is precious, and orders double-time for the loaders; the Schlachtkreuzer guns bark again and again and again, a never-ending hail of steel, walking its way to the French ships. German fire control logs at least fourteen 12-inch hits as the enemy tries to open the range. The French only score one hit, before they turn and run in terror; the 14-inch shell bounces harmlessly off the Graf Spee's B-Turret top armour.

On the other hand, the Bremen is not so lucky. As she seeks to keep the Toulouse occupied, the French dreadnought scores a hit on her bows, smashing them to kindling. The ship staggers and falls back, barely responding to the wheel; Zerstörer close in to lay smoke and cover her escape. She has suffered major casualties, but her crew (veterans one and all) manage to keep her in the fight.

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Meanwhile, the two Marseilles have been mauled. The leading ship has taken one major hit on her center turret, which has smashed through the turret armour and blown the entirety of the mounting off; the ship is trailing smoke and fire.

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The other ship (the one Graf Spee has been favouring with her attention) is already dead, all of her turrets blown to smithereens. French sailors are jumping overboard, as the ship develops a list to port and slowly, gracefully, capsizes.

The German Schlachtkreuzer overtake the enemy from the south and curve around towards the north, to keep the leading Marseille under fire. Once again, the German ships demonstrate that they are in a class of their own. Zähringen fires a broadside, at a range of 8k yards. One 12-inch shell strikes the Marseille on the waterline, just behind her A-Turret...

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...and the French ship goes up like a firecracker, her escorts scattering like headless chicken.

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At this point, the Toulouse is out of sight, somewhere behind the smokescreens to the north; and Hipper has no reason to pursue. This is a great victory, that demands an answer from the French; his mission is accomplished. He turns to the north, leaving La Rochelle behind.

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And uses nightfall to sneak past the French patrols near Brest.

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What a bloody victory!

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Out of all the ships participating in the fight, it is little Bremen that scored the highest hit percentage, peppering the Toulouse and enemy destroyers with high-explosive shells. But it is the two Zähringens that have finally come into their element. Between them, they have scored (wait for it) a hundred and seventy hits on their opponents, the German 12-inchers firing almost continuously throughout the engagement. In fact, upon her return, Graf Spee immediately enters drydock, to have her guns re-bored, after the repeated use essentially destroyed their rifling.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1knion5i67/0a40eae3c3d26d44f07ce904611c1c2e.gif)

The French lose their two Marseilles; the name ship herself and the Nantes. The Toulouse reached the safety of La Rochelle without suffering any significant damage.

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But, while von Papen rejoiced and trumpeted Hipper's success from the rooftops, the Admiralität remained skeptical - and, surprisingly, so did the Kaiser. His Majesty now spent hours in the Admiralität building, discussing with his officers; and, for the first time, he was actually listening.

The situation was critical. The French did not possess the massive capital fleet of the Brits; but they did have a significant raiding and submarine force; and whereas the Germans had concentrated their fleet in the Northern Atlantic, to make sure that the flow of supplies would continue to reach Germany unimpeded, the French had dispersed their forces around the world, skirmishing with German patrol forces all over the Pacific. This was an unsung war, hardly comparable with the large capital ship battles in the North Sea; but no less desperate and no less brutal. The Piepers and Zerstörer in German Polynesia had their hands full, dealing with French raiders and submarines, not to mention the infamous Aigle and Herrault, the two 4k-ton French light cruisers that utterly dominated the Pacific; the Admiralität was very much aware that the situation there was hanging from a very fine thread indeed.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1vww8qo47z/Screenshot_4337.png)

OK. R & D? We love you, and we very much appreciate your hard work. But we are no longer building light cruisers. When we want to kill things in the high seas...?

(https://s1.postimg.cc/8dv4220drz/Screenshot_4338.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5x8vn4uzvz/Screenshot_4339.png)

...we send our U-Boote out.

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Now, it is interesting to note that the French do not suffer as much as the British here. Nor do they fail as much in their counter-raiding. They have a modern force, of both submarines and patrol vessels; and their convoys are fewer and better protected than the British ones (not to mention less important to the country's survival); but they are inexperienced. The German Kaleuns, on the other hand, are both highly skilled and utterly merciless. And the Pieper crews do not fool around either.

The question is: the French have been humiliated in La Rochelle. Will they push back?

(https://s1.postimg.cc/13k0r0aq8f/Screenshot_4342.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1l1k0mlx33/1222d00dac7a9a320d36a55813c80598d206244b_hq.gif)

Yes. Yes they will.

With Hipper's force in drydock, it falls to Scheer to safeguard the home waters. And he does so in his trademark careful fashion, with patrols in force and tireless vigilance.

On the 7th of July, almost a month after the La Rochelle engagement, and with the ground forces preparing for the first large-scale offensive, Scheer is bringing his fleet back from a Long Patrol, trying to reach Helgoland before a summer gale hits. Visibility is minimal; the crews are wet, and tired and miserable.

And, suddenly, there are French ships less than two thousand yards towards the north, closing in fast.

The only appropriate response is 'Da stecken wir ja schön in der Scheisse'.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/8hepzru3n3/Screenshot_4343.png)

The northernmost German squadron comprises the Moltke and the Seydlitz with their Zerstörer escorts. The old veteran Schlachtkreuzer are not ready to engage enemy capitals; thankfully, their Zerstörers are. Kapitänleutnant Falke of the S-22 takes his little tin can on a suicidal run against the enemy ship silhouettes and launches torpedoes from point-blank range. As he turns to escape, his ships is blasted to near-oblivion by heavy-caliber fire; but his torpedo hits; and it buys enough time for the Moltke and Seydlitz to get to battle stations.

Further to the south, Scheer, from the conning tower of the Bismarck scans the seas with concern. He has heard the gunfire; and the Bismarck is sounding battle stations, rushing to the north, to assist the old Schlachtkreuzer. Visibility is **** and they must not allow themselves to be-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1mxbebn127/WOWs_STORM_EXCERPT.gif)

-ENEMY SHIP TO THE NORTH, RANGE 1500 YARDS! RUDDER HARD STARBOARD; ALL GUNS FIRE AT WILL!

The Bismarck responds to the rudder beautifully. Her wide beam and well-balanced metacentric height make her a very stable gun platform in high seas; and her 14-inchers boom against the silhouetted enemy. Wettin scores a hit; Bismarck scores two.

And, twenty seconds later, three more.

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(https://media.giphy.com/media/urp8cVywl1Sk8/giphy.gif)

Whhooooooooooooomfffff.

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The explosion serves as a beacon. Moltke and Seydlitz turn, to approach from the north, while Bismarck and Wettin turn to meet them. In the south-west, little Bremen fights against the waves, to reach her capital wards-

-and eats a torpedo for her trouble; a torpedo that blows her newly-repaired bows clean off.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7p1ui1ghxr/Screenshot_4347.png)

Scheer takes his superdreads around, to investigate the area of the enemy explosion - and hopefully reach Bremen for assistance. Unfortunately, with the gale messing up signaling, his escorts fall behind. And he pays for it, when his lookouts make out French destroyers in the area, possibly looking to save survivors themselves. He orders an evasive turn to starboard; but it's too late. A torped hits the Bismarck amidships, on her starboard side.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/9kefantkov/Screenshot_4349.png)

And then - a few terrifying moments of fire and thunder, as what seems to be a bloody French battle-line slices right through the German forces. Some capitals are spotted; and the German Zerstörer loose their fish in a ragged volley, as they bear and as they see their opponents. At least one hit is scored-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/838a8wqq8v/Screenshot_4351.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1la2flfypb/Screenshot_4352.png)

-but the German forces suffer in return. French guns boom from insight the smoke, fog and rain; Seydlitz and Moltke are riddled with holes, both on the superstructure and the waterline. Moltke loses three of her four turrets, in the most horrifying carnage ever to have been inflicted on a German vessel; Seydlitz does not fare so badly above the waterline, but several underwater hits rob her of almost half her reserve buyoancy. She loses two of her boilers, is listing heavily and can only do 15 knots.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7ef0ow1p7z/Screenshot_4350.png)

Nope. **** that ****. Scheer is out of there.

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His ships limp into Helgoland four hours later. Morale is low. Scheer can only imagine what the French are going to be crowing from the-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5u213kt7lr/Screenshot_4356.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1pv3rrn927/e042.jpg)

-WHAT THE ****?

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5h5ybw76z3/BCs.jpg)

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HOW THE **** DID YOU LOSE THREE BATTLECRUISERS, FRENCHIES?

OK, OK, let's count. One went up like a roman candle; one got torpedoed once and, OK, the Bismarcks may have scored a couple of underwater hits on a third one. But surely that's not enough to sink a capital ship?

Um Gottes Willen, Baguettes, what is your ****ing damcon doctrine like?

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 13, 2017, 04:55:13 pm
THE FROMAGE IS SOFT.

THE FROMAGE IS YIELDING.

I DO NOT HAVE A FROMAGE FETISH
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: JSRNerdo on October 13, 2017, 06:09:43 pm
In the dark timeline where Jackie Fisher was hired by France...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on October 13, 2017, 06:14:11 pm
Schlachtkreuzer Squadrons forced to retire without victory?

(https://img00.deviantart.net/5d4d/i/2015/202/1/0/german_high_seas_fleet_wip_by_mitchellnolte-d929zuo.jpg)

Not Yet Kameraden! Not Yet!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on October 13, 2017, 06:40:15 pm
lol that turnaround "wow, I got my ass handed to me-- MAJOR VICTORY, TWO PRESTIGE?!?"

more than half of your VP from a battle you thought you lost
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 14, 2017, 04:50:41 am
Losing 5 battlecruisers in just two engagements. I dunno france, maybe you should consider... surrender.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 14, 2017, 12:52:40 pm

They're at it again.

I like the implication that Bismarck has studied the Necronomicon.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: TechnoD11 on October 16, 2017, 10:54:38 pm
Hey Enioch,
Just wanted to thank you for the regular updates on this series. As an engineering student buried under a lot of work, taking a break every once in a while to read your interesting saga has reduced my own stress and given me something to look forward to in the evening. Keep up the good work and Erobere die Meere!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 19, 2017, 11:54:57 am
https://youtu.be/5L68JCPsMxU?t=8m47s
A hundred years ago, the spy we often see in this game, died.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on October 20, 2017, 03:47:44 am
You mean was executed after an unfair trail>
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 20, 2017, 06:38:52 am
You mean was executed after an unfair trail>
Uh? I meant exactly what I said, she died a hundred years ago. Did you see me make any kind of other implication?  :confused:
Title: Battle of Helgoland Bight AKA The Ride of the Relics
Post by: Enioch on October 20, 2017, 07:23:28 am
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"This is an outrage! The blood and glory of our brave men is not something to cast aside and recycle for a cheap publicity stunt! And the names of the fallen and of our veterans, men and ships alike, are not toys to play with for one's entertainment!"

-Grossadmiral v. Galster, apocryphal quote; said to have been uttered in rage after the von Papen Hertha plan was made known to him.

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Aftermath of the battle in the North Sea: the French surface fleet has been utterly mauled. They only have a single 37k Dreadnought to face the two Bismarcks which, together, measure 98k tons(!). They are also left with only five battlecruisers (with three more 40k-ton hulls building) to the Germans' eleven. They have no answer whatsoever to the Germans' heavy cruiser force: their light cruisers are smaller than even the German early-20th-century analogues; and the German Zerstörer outmass and outgun the French contre-torpilleurs hull-for-hull by a considerable margin.

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Hindenburg and Galster know very well that the amazing results of Heligoland were exactly that: unbelievable. Yes, the Vaterland has a good chance of dealing with the French relatively quickly after that disaster, but fate is a fickle mistress. Also, there is no love lost between the military leaders and Von Papen, especially since the Reichskanzler is eager to capitalise politically on the Navy's victories, interpreting them as validation of his warmongering policies.

Galster very nearly loses his temper publicly when a memo reaches the Admiralität from the Reichskanzler's office. The funds have been set apart for the construction of a new heavy cruiser of the Hansa class - but the Kanzler insists it should be named Hertha.

Testimonies by Galster's co-workers mention that the Grossadmiral received the news like a physical blow. What von Papen demanded would entail the formal decommissioning of the old Hertha, so that her name would become available; it was, he thought, an utter usurpation of the old cruiser's identity, simply for propaganda purposes. Many of the other high-ranking officers agreed. Scheer, for one, who had served as Hertha's commanding officer during the Italian war, was dramatically opposed to von Papen's proposal.

And there was more than the ideological considerations in play here. Von Papen wanted a ship to start building now, based on an already existing design. Remember, however, that the Hansas were not particularly effective designs, with almost 500 tons of wasted, unoptimised space and a top speed of 31 knots, compared to the coal-fired, 32-knot Prinz Heinrichs. This was a bad investment.

It took Tirpitz's intervention, and a direct order from the Kaiser, to get the project through. His Majesty himself met with Galster to discuss the matter: he is said to have been morose himself at what it would imply.

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With the French fleet well and truly blockaded in their harbours, the German U-Boote assume fleet support duties. They still manage to nab two blockade runners to the west of the Channel.

And then the French strike back.

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SCHEISSE.

3 August 1920: the French submarine Circé is attempting to sneak past the German patrols. She runs across Wettin, returning home from a North Sea patrol, and snapshots three torpedoes. Two strike the German superdread on her starboard bow, cracking four bulkheads and killing sixty sailors. The Wettin is never in danger of sinking and her Zerstörer escorts drive the Circé away, but the return to Wilhelmshaven does a number on the transverse bulkheads of the ship and the mangled bow. Yardhands scream obscenities and descend upon the ship like a swarm of locusts; the most optimistic estimates put her back in action in just under half a year.

This is closely followed by the loss of the Makrele, one of the Piepers, with all hands, near the eastern exit of the Channel.

Her sisters draw some French blood in return, but still, the losses sting. For the first time in, well...ever, the Germans are on the receiving end of a competently-led and competently-pursued submarine warfare campaign.

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And another nasty surprise awaits the Germans on the 21st of August.

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Two ancient German coastal submarines (U-1, yes, the first German submarine ever built and the U-12), both modernised training vessels now, are sailing along the Dutch coastline, when they make out dark shapes towards the north. Fregattenkapitän Ulrich Baumann of the U-1 orders an immediate crash dive and tracks the course of the presumed hostiles, his trainee crew and officers scared out of their wits. Modernised or not, if these are French and if a destroyer sniffs the submarines out...

They are French, Baumann decides, judging by the dark silhouettes. A raiding force, attemtping to hit-and-run in the Bight. Cold sweat runs down his spine.

But the sailors know their duty. Baumann extends his small radio aerial; and sends a brief, encoded warning message on the emergency bands. If the French are paying attention - if a single destroyer in that raiding force has an alert radioman monitoring German frequencies...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3518ysxc7j/o_LIry_Vt.gif)

The French sail past, shrouded in darkness. No challenge is given.

Shortly after they sail out of view, the terrified Germans turn their old boat around - and make best speed for the safe, shallow waters of the Dutch coast.

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Back in Helgoland, the alarm has roused all fleet units currently on station. Helgoland Command is tearing out their hairs; they are trying to contact the Admiralität for orders, but comms are down because of technical difficulties - it will take at least an hour to restore them, an hour that Vize-Admiral Leberecht Maass, the CO of the Helgoland Naval Base does not thing he has.

Helgoland is currently lacking any active modern Schlachtkreuzer for her defense and the Bismarck is patroling. All that Maass has available are the three old Schlachtkreuzer Von der Tann, Goeben and Seydlitz; the heavy cruisers Prinz Heinrich, Prinz Adalbert and Hansa; and a handful of old Zerstörer. He does not know where the enemy is, nor what their force composition is. And he cannot believe how the French have managed to slip an operation like that past the German Intelligence and codebreakers.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7az4hfnglr/gif_1.gif)

If there is a modern battlecruiser out there (or, heaven forbid, more than one), sending the lightly armored cruisers and the old Schlachtkreuzer against her in the dark could be suicide. But he has no other option. If he does not challenge the French, they might slip by and strike at Helgoland or even Wilhelmshaven; this would be a nightmarish repeat of the Thames Estuary raid, only with the roles reversed. He needs to find and stop them in the Bight - sacrifice his ships if he has to, to mission-kill or at least delay the enemy, until the heavy Schlachtkreuzer can respond from the North Sea.

And so he sends out what forces he has, in two task groups. One comprises the three old Schlachtkreuzer, with Konteradmiral Behncke in command. The other is led by promising Kapitän zur See Karl von Müller, who has left his darling Frauenlob for a posting with the new heqvy cruiser forces. His squadron is escorted by little Bremen, her old boilers screaming under the stress, but her crew eager for battle.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/9r608xo96n/Screenshot_4371.png)

Behncke decides to split up his forces, to cover a larger area. The Schlachtkreuzer move north; the cruisers turn south, to skirt the Dutch coast.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3d45rhvxcf/Screenshot_4370.png)

It is a questionable decision, but it pays off, as V1, scouting ahead of Goeben makes contact with the enemy at 06:12. And, shortly after that, in the early light of dawn, the lookouts of Goeben manage to identify the massive ship leading the enemy force.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/41knxctnxr/Screenshot_4372.png)

*DRY ****ING GULP*

That's 10 14-inch rifles, staring down the old German Schlachtkreuzer.Oh, thinks Behncke, this is going to suck. His ships are so outclassed that it's not even funny.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3jum8ru7sv/Screenshot_4373.png)

But he is an Admiral of the Kaiserliche Marine and he knows his duty. And he is in command of Goeben, the glorious, aptly-nicknamed Berserkershiff, with probably the best crew in the fleet under his command, and he is desperate, with his back against the wall. He cannot retreat - the Marseille is faster and will utterly rip him apart at long range. But he has another option.

SCHLACHTKREUZER ****ING RAN AN DEN FEIND!

[OOC Note: Take a look at the 'Crew Quality' score of the Goeben. "-1" means "Untrained, why the hell are you bringing this ship into battle?"; "0" means "Trained"; "1" means "Experienced". "2" is "Elite" - a status that ship crews can only achieve by participating in multiple actions AND never entering reserve status. Goeben has been in active service since her commissioning and has participated in every war since then. Her crew are the very best of the best, hardened veterans every one.]

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Bremen is in sight, to the south; she turns to scout out the French force. Meanwhile, the German capitals turn to the north, unshadow their broadsides and open fire. Twenty-four old 11-inch rifles boom, before the French can get the range.

Goeben straddles the target with her very first salvo at long range. Seydlitz misses by a small margin, and her fire control crews rush to adjust the firing calculations. And Von der Tann shoots straight and true, smashing an 11-inch shell into the Frenchman's superstructure.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/73gjykz2qn/Screenshot_4375.png)

Quickly followed by another hit from Von der Tann, and one from Seydlitz, as she finds the range.

The Marseille responds by charging down the German formation. Her guns boom, and shells straddle the Goeben. Behncke is brave, but not suicidal: he knows what these heavy guns can do to his old ships. He turns away, keeping the French ship at mid- to long range for as long as possible, buying time for reinforcements to arrive.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/64d7zkvji7/Screenshot_4376.png)

He is proven right when, two minutes later, the Marseille scores a hit on the Goeben's forward port turret, penetrating the armor and killing the entirety of the gun crew. Goeben loses a quarter of her active broadside, but she does not flinch.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7awj868fzz/Screenshot_4377.png)

In fact, she turns to the east and outright challenges the Marseille to a mid-range battle. The Frenchmen, foolishly, accept, instead of either pushing in (to score crippling, multiple-hit broadsides) or opening the range (to pound the German capitals from outside their range).

(https://s1.postimg.cc/101jaam6rj/Screenshot_4378.png)

And they pay for it in blood. It does not matter how good your guns are, Frenchie, if you are obliging enough to sit inside the range of twenty-two rapid-firing 11-inchers.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4g3v2dxjjz/Screenshot_4379.png)

Fourty minutes after first contact, Goeben breaks the Frenchman's nose. One of her 11-inch shells buries itself in the deck of the Marseille just in front of her "A" Turret; it doesn't penetrate, but the shell explosion is enough to jam the turret.

That's a third of the Frenchman's firepower out of commission.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1lb6wlk2in/Screenshot_4380.png)

Seydlitz, her FC directors now perfectly locked on target follows her sister's example with a devastating broadside. She scores four hits (out of eight shots fired) on the Frenchman, whose fire now is surprisingly erratic. Perhaps a fire control position was knocked out?

(https://s1.postimg.cc/2a4ggm9iz3/Screenshot_4381.png)

Behncke cannot believe his eyes, but somehow -somehow- he is winning this!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4n72xtn4fz/Screenshot_4382.png)

Seriously, Goeben has been the focus of the French fire so far, and she has only received a total of two hits!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1vy0pr40f3/Screenshot_4385.png)

And then, von Müller finally arrives to reinforce and enters the fray from the south. The three heavy cruisers flank the Marseille from her fore portside and open fire with their 9-inchers at around 8k yards.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4ck94oeyxb/Screenshot_4383.png)

At this range, the Frenchman's 9-inch belt and 9-inch turrets are butter - and the cruisers have a total of thirty six guns to bring to bear. As Prinz Adalbert pumps two shells into the battlecruiser's bridge, Hansa penetrates her aft turret and blows it off its bearings.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/13xwm6w9u7/Screenshot_4384.png)

Welp.

And then the cruisers fire again, from an even closer range. Heinrich scores a hit, followed by two more from the Hansa...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1zhmngxxzz/Screenshot_4386.png)

...who, it turns out, is calmly and methodically knocking out the Marseille's turrets.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7szcaxm46n/Screenshot_4388.png)

Von Müller signals the flagship: ENEMY NEUTRALISED. ENGAGING IN PURSUIT OF ENEMY LIGHT FORCES. RECOMMEND YOU FALL BACK AWAY FROM ENEMY TORPEDO SHIPS.

Behncke agrees, and turns his task force away. The French battlecruiser is harmless now: a de-fanged prey for the German Zerstörer. And her escorts - the light cruisers and destroyers that are running away from the German heavies in terror...

Well. They're roadkill, really.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5cd3w0jy1b/Screenshot_4389.png)

G7, G9 and G12 are detached to sink the French hulk. A torpedo strikes her amidships at 08:03; she sinks slowly by the bows, giving the German ships plenty of time to pick up survivors. More than five hundred sailors are rescued, from her crew of eight hundred and fifty.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/13l580t70v/Screenshot_4390.png)

Meanwhile, von Müller is in pursuit of the enemy light forces, taking multiple DDs under fire. His slowest ship is the Hansa, with a maximum speed of 31 knots. Hilariously...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/86t0nmx4kf/Screenshot_4391.png)

...neither the French light cruiser...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/64pzdqp6tb/Screenshot_4393.png)

...nor the French destroyers can outrun him. But the French scatter, to such an extent that Müller cannot follow them all. He still runs down and annihilates four French destroyers before pulling back to Emden.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1zue1mty6n/Screenshot_4397.png)

German ship losses: one coastal patrol skiff. Not even one of the Piepers, mind you - just a nameless armed trawler that a French submarine happened to run across.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1was3x6nsv/Screenshot_4398.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/9a5hcoplrz/Screenshot_4399.png)

It's a massacre; and the Germans quickly find out why, from their prisoners. The Marseille-class ship Rouen had just been commissioned; and had been sent on this raid after considerable political pressure before her shakedown cruise was complete.

The German sailors are horrified when they find out. No bloody wonder the Frenchmen couldn't score hits. They had never had the chance to train with their ship's guns, before being sent off to war.

Seriously, France. What. The. ****.

This has gone far beyond a patriotic war. This is now a mission to save the Frenchmen from their leaders.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 20, 2017, 07:26:30 am
BECAUSE THAT IS CERTAINLY A GOOD IDEA.

GERMANS TRYING TO SAVE OTHERS FROM THE TRAPPINGS OF DEMOCRACY. NOPE. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. /kappa

ALSO, RIP FRAU ZELLE.  :(

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on October 20, 2017, 09:04:44 am
The German sailors are horrified when they find out. No bloody wonder the Frenchmen couldn't score hits. They had never had the chance to train with their ship's guns, before being sent off to war.

Seriously, France. What. The. ****.

This has gone far beyond a patriotic war. This is now a mission to save the Frenchmen from their leaders.

I.

What.

France. WHY. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on October 20, 2017, 09:33:26 am
You mean was executed after an unfair trail>
Uh? I meant exactly what I said, she died a hundred years ago. Did you see me make any kind of other implication?  :confused:

Oh, sorry, I made that sound confrontational, whilst I wasn't intending to.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 20, 2017, 11:33:11 am
So now that France has no real, actual navy to speak of, blockade and take all their stuff?  ;7

Oh, sorry, I made that sound confrontational, whilst I wasn't intending to.
No worries.

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on October 20, 2017, 12:00:17 pm
Death ride of the matriarch Valkyries?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/The_Ride_of_the_Valkyrs.jpg/1200px-The_Ride_of_the_Valkyrs.jpg)

Not Yet Kameraden! Not Yet!

I love how even in their twilight years the original Schlachtkreuzers still sally forth and gain victory for the Vaterland

Crew Quality 2 Indeed!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 20, 2017, 12:14:07 pm
So now that France has no real, actual navy to speak of, blockade and take all their stuff?  ;7

Of course. The highly skilled political and diplomatic leadership of Germany is sure to not miss this one-in-a-lifetime opportunity. :\/

France. WHY. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.

More than a decade of peace, during which their nominal ally, Germany, pretty much handled the 'war at sea' matters. The French have pissed away what little nautical tradition they had; and their fleet (despite being comprised of several good ships) is corrupt, underfunded and undertrained - a black hole for the French bureaucracy to 'disappear' money into.


*snip*

I love how even in their twilight years the original Schlachtkreuzers still sally forth and gain victory for the Vaterland

Crew Quality 2 Indeed!

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 20, 2017, 01:42:48 pm
Of course. The highly skilled political and diplomatic leadership of Germany is sure to not miss this one-in-a-lifetime opportunity. :\/
(https://i.imgur.com/fhgZjLW.png)
Another miserable 10 point victory?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 20, 2017, 01:52:18 pm
Your optimism is a bright light in the darkness, Spoon. I must protect that smile!

Updated the threadmarks
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on October 21, 2017, 12:34:00 pm

The next part.

Watch out for non-vampiric Bismarck.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on October 23, 2017, 11:19:49 am
Hearts of Iron IV (https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-a-new-germany.1050529/&utm_source=steam_community&utm_medium=community&utm_content=devdiary&utm_campaign=wtt_hoi_devdiary_all_20171018) is revamping it's national focuses to go down the full-on alternate history path for it's major powers (After one of the expansions allowed you to reform Austro-Hungary as Hungary :D ) - For anyone interested in this particular German empire it's a neat treat.

Alternatively you can download the Kaisserreich mod which is an alternate history that assumes that Germany won WW1. Also, quite a neat followup to this campaign.
Title: The Old Guard
Post by: Enioch on October 29, 2017, 02:45:26 pm
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"There is no space for compromise with the enemy. They will submit to our terms, or we will dictate them from Paris."

-Franz von Papen, shortly before the Geneva peace negotiations.

"The great men of a nation reach out to all mankind. They are unifying, not divisive; internationally conciliating and still great nationally."

-Gustav Streseman, as a response.

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August: and Bremen enters the yards. Her old engines are almost ready to give up the ghost; a rushed drydock visit is the only way to keep her in the fight.

In a cruel twist of fate, Frauenlob is called to take up her patrol duties.

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Three months into the war, and the French make a first attempt at peace. It is hard to ignore the current German superiority, especially in the naval battlefield; on land, both Powers are posturing along their borders, fortifying their positions.

Hindenburg is invited to reveal the Ministry of War's position on the matter. His speech is clear: Germany must either commit to a total war, that will allow her the necessary time to fully mobilise her ground forces in assistance of her Fleet; or (and this is his personal recommendation) she needs to reach an honourable peace with France. This...ugly war is not truly worth pursuing, against the allies of yesteryear.

Streseman agrees; and his recommendation to the Kaiser is for a peace agreement that will humiliate the French as little as possible, and ensure a stable Kerneuropa in the future. Wilhelm, apparently still a fanatical Mecklenburgian and believer in the German-French Alliance agrees.

Von Papen does not.

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Using the term 'sabotage' to describe what he does to the peace negotiations is being too lenient. His ambition, as it is seen from personal writings at the time, is to mirror and surpass Bismarck's 1870 accomplishment; he is not interested in anything more than a total defeat of the French.

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With the breakdown in peace talks, operations resume. With French shipping blockaded, German submarines can only score a limited number of kills; but the minelaying submarines do manage to claim a minesweeper. In turn, the French submarines sink six German freighters. Nothing that can rival the frightening effectiveness of the German raiders in previous wars, but a notable threat nonetheless.

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The surface fleet, on the other hand, performs admirably. A French convoy is sunk in the Mediterranean and French installations are bombarded in Tonkin; meanwhile, German codebreakers intercept French communications regarding a planned raid in the Baltic and German fleet elements mobilise in time to intercept.

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The French do their best to avoid a direct clash, in all three occasions.

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October: and the month seems to begin with the usual reports from the submarine and raider fleets. The French seem to be carving a small chunk off the German merchant marine, as usual...

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...and then, at noon of the 29th of October, a German fleet patrol near Texel runs across a French raiding force.

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The Germans have brought two Wittelsbach-class Schlachtkreuzer: the usual pair of Wittelsbach herself and the Derfflinger. The German capitals are escorted by the two old cruisers Frauenlob and Bremen: the latter has only just left drydock and is shaking down her repaired engines. Frauenlob is only here to be relieved of patrol duty if the Bremen's repairs are satisfactory, and then to return to her position as escort to the Zähringen squadron.

At 12:54, the Germans spot a French cruiser approaching from the south and turn to intercept.

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She's a light cruiser of the Du Chayla-class: a new, capable cruiser-killer, with a 3-inch belt and a 5-gun broadside.

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And, the Germans realise, as the lookouts spot smoke rising from the south-western horizon, she's not alone. At least two French battlecruisers are here to assist her.

In all fairness, these are not particularly fearsome battlecruisers. They are old and, in fact, in everything but their speed and secondary battery, they are inferior to the Wittelsbachs.

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And so, the Germans engage, establishing a firing line to the north, the Wittelsbachs serving to shield the cruisers from fire. Some hits are scored, on both sides, with the French notably scoring a penetrating waterline hit on Derfflinger's bow-

-a hit that slows her down, a crucial knot or so. A cry of distress from her lookouts; a panicked evasive turn towards the north, as a torpedo barely passes in front of her...

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...and hits the Frauenlob amidships.

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The old cruiser groans and bucks like a wild horse - and her old spine breaks like a twig. Her boilers go up, in a cloud of smoke and injection-oil; and her two halves slowly drift apart, burning. There is no time for the few survivors to take to lifeboats; only 84 men are saved.

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And, not giving the aghast Germans time to get their bearings, the French follow up with another devastating torpedo strike on the S14. The little tin-can crumbles under the blow. Only 36 survivors.

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No. Nonononono. The Germans are, now, very, very angry. The Frauenlob was a symbol, almost as famous a ship as the Hertha for her daring service in the British War. Her being torpedoed is what started this war and her survival at the time, in spite of the cowardly enemy's strike, had been seen as an act of God and a miracle, a sign of favour and good luck. Her loss, now, to a torpedo, of all things, is a black and red angry thing, that coils inside the German sailors' hearts and cries for blood and murder.

The Derfflinger and Wittelsbach train their guns - main and secondary batteries - onto the nearest Tourville-class; and their hulls disappear behind a wall of fire and smoke as they let loose with every gun barrel they can bring to bear.

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Bam.

The Tourville loses a turret in a gout of smoke; and two more turrets jam in their bearings. She staggers, and slowly falls behind, out of formation.

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As S17 detaches to pick up survivors, the Schlachtkreuzer keep up the accurate fire, continuously driving the French towards the south.

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And they do not conserve ammunition. Less than an hour after first contact, the Derfflinger loaders report that they have expended more than half of their shells.

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The trailing Tourville has been turned to swiss cheese. She is now completely out of formation, more than thirty kilometres behind her sister, wreathed in smoke and fire, her guns silent. The Germans now turn their attention to the lead ship-

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-who is giving the best accounting of herself than any other ship in the French navy has given so far.

Meet the Lyon - an old ship, but a good ship. Her captain, Capitaine de Vaisseau Marc de Champs-à-Loire, is an officer of the Old School, a believer in strict discipline and in frequent training. He takes the Derfflinger under fire as she enters the range, and in a short while scores more than ten hits on her with main and secondary guns, raking her superstructure and punching several holes beneath the waterline.

But he is dealing with two of the best ships in the German Navy - and, eventually, the Lyon dies, under concentrated fire.

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The G8 is called to give the coup de grâce at close range.

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OK, you? You fought well. The Germans grudgingly admit it; and the Zerstörer willingly pick up the French survivors from the water.

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The two Schlachtkreuzer turn towards the north-

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-and pass by the second Tourville's burning hulk. Surprisingly, she has not yet struck her colours. The Germans have no time for cleanup - it's clear that she is sinking, and so Derfflinger just puts a contemptuous shell into her from near point-blank range and continues on her course, back to Home Waters.

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The butcher's bill. Frauenlob and S14 are gone, and the Derfflinger has suffered considerable damage at the hands of the Loire. But the French have lost two of their last-

-wait.

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-WHAT!?

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SON OF A *****.

The second ship - the burning, disarmed, mauled hulk - was the Tourville herself: the name ship of her class. And she, somehow, manages to reach a French harbour, in time to be saved.

Well. ****.

That said, these Frenchmen - the crews of the old battlecruisers, who actually know what they're doing - the Germans can respect. Seriously. Two obsolete 12-inch battlecruisers and their escorts have caused more damage to the German fleet than all their newest 14-inch capitals put together. And they get to save a ship that, by all accounts, should be long-sunk.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5db8taa473/The_Old_Guard_Dies_but_does_not_surrender.jpg)

Mad props to the Old Guard, I guess. Perhaps you can save your country from the criminal incompetence of your fellow officers.

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For now, though? Thanks for the prestige.

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November - and those goddamned French subs become even more effective. Not deadly, not by a long shot - but a constant annoyance.

So, the Germans push again, this time through the Channel and against La Rochelle, once more. Just to send a message.

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Hipper is in command: the Jagdhund has his flag on the Mackensen and is escorted by the Graf Spee. He is deployed in a raiding / reconnaissance-in-force mission: his objective is to draw out what little forces the French still have in the region and sink them or, failing that, to hammer coastal installations and merchant traffic.

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He is co-ordinating with the U-Boot Command: the U-103 has already snuck near the French harbour and is spotting for him. The presence of at least one French capital ship has been confirmed in the area.

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Unfortunately, night falls before Hipper can manoeuver into position to engage - and his fuel tanks are running low, as the Mackensen never had the time to properly resupply before the operation.

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And then, at 19:00, the lookouts spot enemy ships in the gloom. Terrifyingly, they seem to be light forces - light cruisers and destroyers, less than two thousand yards towards the north and well within torpedo range. Hipper scrambles to evade-

-and then something - a God's hammer - strikes the Mackensen's bridge, blowing it to smithereens.

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Hipper is lucky in his misfortune. He is used to commanding from the relatively open conning towers of the older Schlachtkreuzer; the monolithic conning towers of the Zähringens, although safer, are too stifling and not to his taste. He is, therefore, commanding from the bridge when the French shell hits.

His mangled body is retrieved from the wreckage, a few minutes later. He has lost his right arm and his right eye to shrapnel; and his right leg is broken in three places and dislocated at the hip. He is unconscious; but he will survive the engagement, if barely, thanks to prompt medical aid.

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By this time, the lookouts identify one of the enemy ships as the French battlecruiser Duquesne - and the two German Schlachtkreuzer, with no orders to the contrary, move to engage at close range, unshadowing their broadsides.

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The Graf Spee fires once, to find the range, and scores a hit with her ranging salvo; the Mackensen is still scrambling under the hammerblow, and it takes a minute for her captain, Marcus von Weissberg to realise that he is command of the force. During that time, the ship is hit again, with an overpenetrating hit on her bows that causes minimal flooding. Her bridge is still burning, marking her as a target in the night gloom.

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But then, her gunnery crews hit their stations. 20:08 - she scores two hits on her silhouetted enemy, while the Frenchman fires back, jamming one of her turrets. 20:09 - she finds the range. 20:10 - both her and Graf Spee fire together, in a concentrated massive salvo. In two minutes, the Duquesne is hit 13 times. She fades into the darkness, behind a smokescreen laid by her destroyers-

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-but then, two minutes later, the Graf Spee's gunners reacquire her and pump another 7 shells into her. And that's all the French ship can take. Her ammo stores go up in a fireball that turns the night into day.

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Weissberg does not risk continuing the engagement. He has accomplished his orders; and with Hipper wounded and his bridge destroyed he does not dare press on.

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He turns his ships towards the north and leaves La Rochelle behind.

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Well, it was the Dunkerque. Not a particularly good ship, design-wise; but still, one of the older breed, going own swinging. Going up against two Zähringens on this old tub? Mad props for bravery, Frenchmen; we'll have a drink to your honour in the Knappen of Wilhelmshaven .

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And then, Hindenburg finally reports to the Kaiser that the Heer is fully armed, prepared and supplied, to break the land war stalemate. Germany is ready for the Winter Offensive; it is time for the Navy to rest.

Artillery roars and flowers of death bloom over the trenches. December is here - and the first snowfall of the season is drowned in blood, smoke, mud and fire.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 29, 2017, 02:55:03 pm
LA GARDE MEURT MAIS NE SE REND PAS.

(Aten't dead.)

Goddammit Frenchmen. First you sacrifice a modern battlecruiser for nothing - and then you send out these relics that die (or do not die, as the case may be) in the most glorious fashion imaginable, fighting to the last.

It is so obvious that the old veterans have taken out the old ships in contempt, saying to the criminally stupid youngsters "Regardez bien, les minables, c' est comme ça qu'on se bat contre les Boches" and it makes me want to cry and salute them.

Seriously. These are the most worthy adversaries Germany has faced so far. Glorious, magnificent bastards.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 29, 2017, 05:41:11 pm
Look at all this pointless death and bloodshed!

(https://i.imgur.com/gQCpTwQ.jpg)

It's great.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on October 30, 2017, 04:27:56 am
Frauenlob, nooooo

o7, little old tub.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 30, 2017, 06:37:15 am
Had it coming imo
Cheeky little boat was long overdue for sinking.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 30, 2017, 08:29:27 am
Had it coming imo
Cheeky little boat was long overdue for sinking.

Get out.

EDIT: Can you guys let me know if you can download working .gifs from giphy and other similar sites? I seem to be constantly getting corrupted versions and I suspect they've done something to stop downloads (or their sitecode is ****ed up worse than ours)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on October 30, 2017, 10:03:59 am
I checked giphy for you, I can download and open their gifs just fine, without any corruption or what not.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on October 30, 2017, 10:09:31 am
Goddammit.

What browser are you using?

EDIT: Never mind, for some reason, now it is working. Thanks Spoon, you've been very kind. Now...

Had it coming imo
Cheeky little boat was long overdue for sinking.

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Title: A Brawl in the Dark
Post by: Enioch on November 06, 2017, 09:04:30 am
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[...]The German Winter Assault of 1920 was one of the first combined arms offensive maneuvers in modern history. Over the course of two months, the German army proceeded to advance in a careful, methodical fashion, with concentrated infantry pushes supported by massive artillery barrages. The 2nd and 4th Armies, under the command of Erich Ludendorff and Herzog Albrecht von Württemberg engaged in successive attempted breakthroughs and encirclements of isolated French forces, pushing the enemy back into Lorraine.[...]

[...]As ill-maintained as they were, the French in-depth fortifications still proved to be a considerable hindrance for the German Heer, especially when one takes into account the bravery of the French defenders; but the Germans quickly brought new, innovative weaponry to bear. New ballistic caps were introduced for the use of field artillery and utilised for the first time to penetrate the French bunkers, to great effect. And the 4th Army was the first to utilise the dreaded German Flammenwerfer for the first time in combat against enemy fixed positions.[...]

[...]A January blizzard slowed the advance after about forty to fifty kilometres from the Rhein, along the Saint-Dié-des-Vosges - Belfort line, where it would remain for the rest of the winter.[...]


-Pierre DeVille, The Lorraine on Fire: a Chronicle of the von Papen Wars, Marseille 1948.

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"War is the father of all," said Heraclitus: and the Germans demonstrate the veracity of the argument. In order to break the French fortifications of the Rhein, the Germans develop new ballistic caps for their armor-piercing projectiles. Now shells lose very little velocity when in the air; and they strike harder and deeper. The French bunkers crack like eggshells.

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On the 22nd of December, the Ariadne and Amazone spot a French convoy in the Mediterranean. They...vaccilate.

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It's three days to Christmas. The French still have one battlecruiser around. Is it worth it, to engage?

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No, the Germans decide. Better not to take the risk. Also, the Kriegsmarine still has a modicum of respect for their opponents. We are not the army, slaughtering people on the Holy Days. Let the garlic-chewers through.

(Also, let's not risk our ships against a potential battlecruiser)

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Well, scheisse. The Admiralität does not lose any sleep over 8 freighters, but the captains of the light cruisers do feel a certain disappointment when they realise that they could have wiped that convoy out pretty easily.

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28 December: and the Derfflinger loses two boilers in a pressure explosion. Eight dead; twenty wounded; and a month in drydock.

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Hello, Frau Zelle. What news from Britain?

Wait, the Redoutable? Isn't that the British 15-inch response to the Zähringens? What do you mean it's under construction?

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1qnohowm5b/Screenshot_4480.png)

Yeah, it's the old Redout....

Oh. Ooooooooh. How interesting.

'Improved Director', I see. She's being refitted! The Brits are catching up on Fire Control tech. Brilliant. All Germany needed was accurate 15-inch fire from the Brits...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/2tndsksnqn/Screenshot_4481.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/62mhp8h7y7/Screenshot_4482.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5j5o9dq4ov/Horrible_Subs-_Youjo-_Senki-12v2-1080p.mkv0070.jpg)

Oh mein Gott.

This is delicious. The ship designers finally submit their preliminary concepts for a new generation of Zerstörer. A new generation that will blow everything the opposition has out of the water, figuratively and literally.

Time to go big.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/2bxc3zskgf/Screenshot_4483.png)

Urlge.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/34a7lqao73/Screenshot_4484.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3igncljehr/Screenshot_4485.png)

Double Urgle. Goddammit, the French are outperforming us in submarine warfare?

Yes, alright, the blockade has something to do with that, but 5 German submarines sunk!?

And, um Gottes Willen, SOMEBODY KILL THAT VERFLUCHTEN CRUISER!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/6663myaxtb/Screenshot_4486.png)

Well, at least we have a new quintet of Piepers leaving the yards, to deal with the French subs...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/21aiaufp6n/Screenshot_4487.png)

January: and the Winter Offensive reports success across all fronts. Ludendorff and von Württemberg have pushed the French out of Elsass - Lothringen, but have been slowed down by one of the most strong blizzards in the last generation. There is no need to push further - both sides settle down for the rest of the winter. The Germans take the opportunity to consolidate, resupply and reinforce their advance positions.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/9ps1creigf/Screenshot_4488.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Dg9b0cx.jpg)

YES.

AND THE LORD SPAKE THUSLY: 'THOU SHALT BUILD ME A NEW ZERSTÖRER AND IT SHALT BE SWOLE'

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7g90t9v2a7/Screenshot_4489.png)

God-****ing-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3t3h5qzp7z/Screenshot_4490.png)

-DAMMIT! Please tell me that somebody has found that bloody cr-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1xqwd4ozcf/Screenshot_4491.png)

YES! Freya, you magnificent *****!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/6uzd6z1okf/Screenshot_4492.png)

Hnnnng.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/21aiaujk2n/Screenshot_4493.png)

HNNNNG.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5a9m7i79f3/Screenshot_4494.png)

....

I have nothing. Herr Stroheim, please explain.

(https://s17.postimg.cc/recxbdsu7/2a47cc89f8bb513a05040ba00cd7d2e436d33430_hq.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4hwqprrijz/Screenshot_4495.png)

March 1921: and the U-Boote finally manage to extricate their heads from their aft torpedo tubes. Galster deploys them on raids against French patrol ships and coastal traffic: and the U-135 bags herself a French minesweeper.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/75m704kc67/Screenshot_4496.png)

Not good, by any stretch of the imagination. But better.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5ostcj1x8v/Screenshot_4497.png)

And, hey, bigger convoys work! French submarine performance drops by around 50%!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/256vmpzum7/Screenshot_4498.png)

You little hero.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/6dm2wjrt4v/Screenshot_4499.png)

Oh, great. Another French cr-

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5hplh3h9tr/Screenshot_4500.png)

...

Wait, what?

The Bremen? The little Bremen? The sister-ship of Frauenlob? Built in the nineteenth century? Not properly maintained since 1912?

Catches up to a French cruiser built in (*checks*) 1910? and sinks her?

...

*Checks stats of Bremen*

Crew Quality: Elite

(https://i.imgur.com/NzEOXjZ.jpg)

But of course.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/62z93edfun/Screenshot_4501.png)

And then, because karma's a *****, a French submarine catches Wittelsbach unawares near the Spanish coast. The escorting Zerstörer drive her away, and the German ship reaches harbour safely, but she'll be out of action for at least sixty days.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7ybtw0qqbj/Screenshot_4502.png)

Her station in the Bay of Biscay patroling force is taken up by the Graf Spee. And on the 21st of April, the Graf gets to avenge her older sister.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/386kxlw3xb/Screenshot_4503.png)

Just before midnight, in a pitch-black, overcast night, the Graf Spee and the Lützow are sailing towards the south-east and the Spanish coast, when the faint, directed navigation light of the S15 is obscured by - something. The lookouts of the Graf realise, horrified, that there's a completely blacked-out enemy capital ship less than 500 yards ahead.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/8jlhibitqn/Screenshot_4504.png)

The ensuing panicked maneuvering, alarms and all-in-all cluster**** that ensues, results in the Graf opening up with her main guns against an enemy DD in literally point-blank range (less than a hundred yards), blowing the enemy ship clear out of the water. The fireball of the enemy torpedoes cooking off is just enough for the G9 to make out a black shape closing in fast from starboard; and then the French destroyer rams the German ship on the bows, tangling them up together in a mass of twisted metal.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3bq6vbqonj/Screenshot_4505.png)

The enemy destroyer manages to bring two deck guns to bear onto the wrecked G9, firing into her bridge and aft. And then heavy guns boom from the darkness. One shell strikes the G9's torpedo launchers; one of her torpedoes goes off, carving a chunk out of her hull. Another salvo finds the Graf's 'X' Turret and penetrates it, killing the crew.

But then the Germans fire back. The capitals train their main batteries onto a closing Epee-class destroyer and nail her with five 12-inch shells, turning her into matchwood. The Lützow, meanwhile, peppers a nearby French light cruiser with her secondaries.

The cruiser turns to avoid the German fire; and runs straight into a torpedo fired into the melee by the G7.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/2jdbdlbsnj/Screenshot_4506.png)

The G9 is a charnelhouse, by now, but she still has a torpedo launcher and the enemy battlecruiser is nearby. The Germans desperately turn the launcher around, under constant fire, and dump a spread directly into the Frenchman's path, from less than a kilometre away.

One torpedo finds her mark.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1jx80f8m27/Screenshot_4507.png)

But the French destroyer that has rammed the G9 returns the favour. She has a broadside shot at Lützow and she takes it, nailing the German Schlachtkreuzer with a torpedo amidships.

At this point, the S15 has eyes on both the enemy ships. One is a Tourville, running towards the east. The other, the one G9 has torpedoed, is...

(https://i.imgur.com/ySm56Le.png)

...a Guedon-class?

Holy ****, that's a 14-inch gun, 40k-ton behemoth, and the flagship of the French fleet!

The Graf Spee immediately takes her under fire, pumping two 12-inch shells into her belt.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/8u8bbh0u73/Screenshot_4508.png)

The S15, mangled by French secondary fire, turns and launches her fish. From a range of 1.5k yards, she scores a single hit, further holing the Guedon's starboard waterline.

Meanwhile, the Graf has found the range. With all that this implies. I don't think I need to elaborate. You all know what happens when a Zähringen-class straddles a target at under 5k yards.

(https://i.imgur.com/9d9jqRU.gif)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/21n9p0b27z/Screenshot_4509.png)

The Lützow is hurt, but not mortally. She is flooding, and her port wing magazine is gone, but she can still do her cruise speed and she can still bring eight 12-inchers to bear. Problem is, she cannot see anything to shoot at - and signals this to the Graf Spee.

The Graf proceeds to torpedobeat like a baws [look at the top of the message log], weaving between three French torpedoes, and charges down the French ships.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1gdm2pgtn3/Screenshot_4510.png)

The Guedon turns to disengage, but the Graf is right on her tail, continuously pumping 12-inch shells into her weakly armored aft. Finally, the Lützow acquires a target, and opens up with main and secondary guns.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/5scfa90kkv/Screenshot_4511.png)

As the G7 and S15 slip beneath the waves, the Graf keeps up the withering fire on the Guedon. **** the Tourville - get the French supercap!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4lt41nc3f3/Screenshot_4512.png)

And they do get her. At 00:37, the flagship of the French Navy slips under the waves.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3iteqrg1tr/Screenshot_4513.png)

It is then - and only then - that the G9 follows suit. It is almost as if she wanted to make sure that her prey had met her doom, before giving up the ghost.

The Germans pick up their survivors (and many French prisoners) and begin their journey to Gibraltar: there is no way they're braving the Channel and the French submarine patrols.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/4wfxusrja7/Screenshot_4514.png)

What a victory! The French flagship is gone, accompanied by two destroyers. Somehow that cruiser survives the torpedo strike with minimal damage. The Germans 'only' lose three Zerstörer, and the little darlings certainly went down swinging!

(https://s1.postimg.cc/2qgj910y3z/Screenshot_4515.png)

MVP? The Graf, beyond any doubt. Fifty confirmed hits on the enemy ships in total. Surprisingly, French records indicate that the Guedon was hit more than a hundred and thirty times by capital-grade weapons. Whether this was the French panicking and miscounting, or whether this meant that the Germans scored more hits than they could confirm in the gloom is debatable; we suspect that the truth lies somewhere in between...

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7us7yb25n3/Screenshot_4516.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/1y3nraleyn/Screenshot_4517.png)

(https://s1.postimg.cc/313d26hvzj/Screenshot_4518.png)

What a victory, indeed! It takes time for the reports to reach the Admiralität, but when they do, the mood is jubilant. Several Iron Crosses are awarded for this night's work; including to the entire crew of the G9 for their tenacity and valor under fire.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/3md0ohcjzz/Screenshot_4519.png)

This success breathes new life into the German Fleet - the captains, officers and crewmen are determined not to give the French an inch anymore. The little obsolete Nymphe, patrolling the Indian Ocean, engages the enemy cruiser Lelande as she tries to attack merchant shipping and drives her away, under a hail of 6-inch fire; the Moltke and Prinz Adalbert twice drive away the raider Galilee from German waters.

(https://s1.postimg.cc/7np02vhi7z/Screenshot_4521.png)

That's the last straw for the French. They have completely and utterly lost control of the seas; the Germans can, at their discretion, land troops in their northern coast, completely bypassing Belgium and the Netherlands. On the 29th of April, they sue for peace, a peace that the Kaiser outright orders von Papen to grant them. Germany is at a perfect position to dictate terms and to ensure that she emerges the undisputed ruler of the Kerneuropa...

(https://i.imgur.com/zV3vkYI.png)

What the utter ****?

...

"Large territories and considerable war reparations" = 4 victory points.

...

...

VON PAPEEEEEEEN!


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 06, 2017, 09:10:48 am
**** OFF HERR REICHSKANZLER.

YOU TEST MY PATIENCE.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on November 06, 2017, 09:19:46 am
Von Papen. My dude. Come 'ere for a sec. Listen, we beat the french soundly. We can have everything we want or we put troops into Versaille again, and this time they're not leaving. Get us something juicy, will ya?

----

Mein Kaiser, I have delivered something juicy! The french have offered us their best wines!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 06, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
FOUR POINTS?!?
(https://i.imgur.com/dxkVire.jpg)

FOUR MEASLY POINTS?!

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 06, 2017, 04:06:56 pm
All of that research though, the best science in the world. And what a delicious slugging fest, the war ended with. (I liked how it the collision was with UNSIGHTED!!!)

Du Chayla Du du du chayla
Cha la
Head cha la
Du du du

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 07, 2017, 04:50:47 am
*snip*

Yeah, I kinda was expecting that reaction.  :lol:

Von Papen. My dude. Come 'ere for a sec. Listen, we beat the french soundly. We can have everything we want or we put troops into Versaille again, and this time they're not leaving. Get us something juicy, will ya?

----

Mein Kaiser, I have delivered something juicy! The french have offered us their best wines!

...and that one.  :p

Seriously, this was possibly the peace deal that pissed me off more than any other in this playthrough. Apparently, 50k+ VP compared to 7.5k (plus having completely wiped the battle-line of the Marine Nationale from the face of the Earth) only grants you 4 negotiation points.

EDIT: OK, this is pissing me off. I wanna download .gifs from giphy and I can't do it, again. I choose my .gif, then I click 'Download' from the sidebar on the right, then I right click on the blue 'download' button on the source link and I select 'save link as'. All I'm getting is a ****ing 29KB file that doesn't play anywhere and is probably not a .gif, but this ****ing frame that giphy likes to put on everything. Can someone help me with this ****ing ^*%@  (devolves into really angry swearing)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 07, 2017, 09:46:26 am
Save link as?
Try, Save Image As

U derpy git
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on November 07, 2017, 11:54:03 am
He's been channeling the Kaiser so much for the RTW Blog its metastasizing to other parts of his life...

(http://cdn.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/1996/06/kaiser-william-ii_1996-06-06-200x200-c-default.gif)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 07, 2017, 12:09:58 pm
He's been channeling the Kaiser so much for the RTW Blog its metastasizing to other parts of his life...

(http://cdn.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/1996/06/kaiser-william-ii_1996-06-06-200x200-c-default.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/rpKwmO8.png)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 07, 2017, 12:25:48 pm
Uh-huh. Yeah.  :doubt:

Instruct me as to where the 'Save Image as' option is, great masters.

(https://i.imgur.com/foeZ98m.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/VzO2s3q.png)

EDIT: hold on, I may have figured this out. That's an MP4, isn't it. And I've been trying to download it as a .gif because the frame has wrapped it into a "giphy.gif" container.... :banghead:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 07, 2017, 02:04:10 pm
EDIT: hold on, I may have figured this out. That's an MP4, isn't it. And I've been trying to download it as a .gif because the frame has wrapped it into a "giphy.gif" container.... :banghead:
I'm just going to sit here, and watch it all dawn on you  :p

(https://i.imgur.com/ROelupy.jpg)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 08, 2017, 09:01:11 am
Not directly related to the german steel of the current playthrough, but these are pretty colorized pictures of WW2 warboats: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/7biryd/imperial_japanese_navy_in_color/
Title: And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon!
Post by: Enioch on November 13, 2017, 12:19:16 pm
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(https://s7.postimg.cc/usdcqexyz/Stab-in-the-back_postcard.png)

"The Geneva peace negotiations were a shambles. Von Papen  came in completely unprepared, apparently more interested in humiliating the French than concluding a lasting peace treaty. To the chagrin of all parties involved, the Reichskanzler was more interested in backstage lobbying, to 'get a better deal' than to actually putting forward what Germany expected out of this peace treaty.

"It was only thanks to the tireless efforts of Foreign Minister Streseman that a set of concessions were agreed upon. Under international pressure, the Germans would limit themselves to accepting considerable war reparations and some minimal colonial concessions; but the European borders returned to their pre-war state and no signficant colonial centres changed hands.

"The military and hawkish sides were incensed. The Army had performed heroically, once more demonstrating German superiority over the French; the Navy had, by all accounts, carried the day. But this political fiasco was perceived by all as a betrayal of the sacrifices of the military personnel: thousands of Germans had died at sea or on the trenches, and their deaths were now proven to be in vain. This was exacerbated by the fact that the current military command had reached their positions under the drastically different hand of von Mecklenburg. Whereas the
Meereskanzler had made it a point to only spend German lives sparingly, in pursuit of specific goals, von Papen appeared to the disillusioned Heeresleitung and Admiralität as an opportunist.

"General Ludendorff was one of the first to put forward what would quickly become known as the 'Dolchstoß' narrative, which quickly spread amongst the German military and the lower classes: the military was betrayed, 'stabbed in the back', by the political leadership and, specifically, the short-sighted von Papen regime and its backers among the nobility [...]
"

-Dr. Jonathan Needham, The Dolchstoß: Political Betrayal in Germany during and after the Von Papen Wars, 1975: Glasgow.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ncioi3zkr/Screenshot_4527.png)

The military is not happy. The Kaiser is not happy. Streseman is appalled.

Von Papen and his backers seem happy. For the time being. He is still kept as far away from the American delegates who are visiting Germany to witness the peace negotiations as possible.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ptufpeecb/Screenshot_4528.png)

A new batch of submarines leave the yards, too late to join the war.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jswqsecbf/Screenshot_4529.png)

Well, crap. That would have been really appreciated.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ushy3xaff/Screenshot_4531.png)

August 1921: and a German agent and saboteur is captured in Italy. He has, in his possession, evidence that, while insufficient to link him directly to Von Papen, is still...shall we say indicative of the Chancellor's interest in his activities? The Italians raise a very justified stink; von Papen insultingly dismisses their claims in a series of interviews with European newspapers.

Military Intelligence are pulling their hair out.  This has not been a government-sanctioned operation. Whatever von Papen has done, it was done with private funds (which might explain the sheer incompetence of the captured agent).

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ork96vqe3/Screenshot_4532.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/uv6f4oydn/Enigma_crittografia_-_Museo_scienza_e_tecnologia_Milano.jpg)

Ohohoho...

ENIGMA INTENSIFIES.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/eu98dsvmz/Screenshot_4534.png)

September: and von Papen ****s things up again, when he orders the Far East squadron to bombard targets in coastal China, based on faulty intelligence. Thankfully, the local commanders are well aware that the 'revolution' their Reichskanzler is sending them to suppress is well under control by British colonial forces and that their intervention could spark another war. They dither, and sail around, and take extra care not to bombard anything important. The Brits protest formally against what they perceive as Germany grossly overstepping her bounds; but Streseman can provide sufficient damage control that tensions do not rise too much...

(https://s7.postimg.cc/drz1v9s97/Screenshot_4537.png)

Things stay quiet until January. Perhaps too quiet, for both the Admiralität's and Streseman's peace of mind.

And then, a British spy is discovered by Military Intelligence. The Admiralität and Streseman immediately descend upon the poor fellow in an attempt for damage control; the matter is dealt with with the uttermost discretion, keeping von Papen out of the loop. This time, tensions stay stable.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/r8w0e5xfv/Screenshot_4538.png)

Aha.

Ahahahaha.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

SUPER-ULTRA-BIG BEER BELLY FOR BATTLESHIPS UNLOCKED!

SEND MORE TORPEDOES.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/npa2ocn0b/Screenshot_4539.png)

**** you 'Murica, we need the money. We are modernising the entirety of the Pieper fleet, after all...

(https://s7.postimg.cc/hocdrbq4b/Screenshot_4541.png)

Krupp approaches the government with a proposal. They are considering outsourcing some of their production to Russia, where labour is cheaper. This might help relations with the ailing eastern neighbour; and it would also bring considerable profits to both Krupp and the Admiralität for the licenses held.

But no! cries von Papen. That would be a security risk! Germany cannot afford to leak technology to her backwards ernstwhile enemy!

The project is blocked. Neither the German industrialists nor the Russians appreciate it.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/banao1qd7/Screenshot_4542.png)

Sure, give the new Hertha good eyes.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/u2z5rmuh7/Screenshot_4543.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/b3495d4t7/Tensions12.jpg)

****ING HELL, VON PAPEN, CEASE AND DESIST.

He does it again. Once again, Military Intelligence finds out there are German agents and saboteurs in France after these men are caught. Frau Zelle is thumping her head against the wall.

The utter hypocrisy of the man! Denying German industrialists a billion-Mark deal, only to get his incompetent stooges captured by the French as they are trying to dynamite the Paris - Lille railroad tracks...

We need some good news-

(https://s7.postimg.cc/banao3g3f/Screenshot_4544.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/jg5cm9c23/Screenshot_4546.png)

Gottverdammt, R & D, but you never cease to amaze. Can we have our new Zerstörer yet?

Not yet? OK, we'll wait. They had better be amazing, though!

(https://s7.postimg.cc/4k6ten5sb/Screenshot_4545.png)

Wait. The Japanese want to buy German boiler licenses? They come to Germany and not the Brits?

Holy crap, tensions with them are really low! This is a chance!

**** von Papen. The military and Streseman work under the Reichskanzler's radar. There is a masterful mess of bureaucratic shuffling and delays, until von Papen is presented with a fait accompli, the Japanese envoys are on a ship back home with the desired boiler designs, and several million Reichsmark have found their way into the Ministry of War's coffers.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/59plr1gmj/Screenshot_4547.png)

Let's make this absolutely clear.

You're welcome in the Fleet. More than welcome, actually. But you are not HER. You will never be HER.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/6or6frx57/Screenshot_4548.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/f3beh8sln/eb723b803c88dbaefb3d410d53fe1fc1-d2zay27.png)

The Admiralität appreciates the money.

BUT SPENDING THAT MONEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARY IF YOU HADN'T TRIED TO BLOW UP THE FRENCH RAILROADS HALF A YEAR AFTER OUR PEACE TREATY YOU UTTER FUUUUUuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.......

Argle.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/qjd81vp7f/Screenshot_4549.png)

YES. We're not fighting the Americans anytime soon.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/7r1cyb88r/Screenshot_4550.png)

NO. You never know with the Brits.

(And with von Papen being in charge...)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/tdgdfcm8r/Screenshot_4551.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/fjs0qb1d7/Screenshot_4552.png)

Perfect!

(https://s7.postimg.cc/ehhu7rq9n/Screenshot_4553.png)

Also perfect! Hey, R & D, can we have our new Zerst-

(https://s7.postimg.cc/t2xtywmsb/Screenshot_4557.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/xk5t85o0b/1282786204310.jpg)

This is a new-generation ship. This is the work of love of many, many engineers, over several years. It is tested; it is perfect; it is everything the Admiralität has hoped for and then some.

The project is named G9, after the glorious little destroyer that died fighting to the last breath. She has more than earned her right to be immortalised. The new G9 will have the Iron Cross awarded to her predecessor permanently mounted on her hull, in a further gesture of respect for the spirits and bravery of the fallen.

Let's run the reader through what made the G9-class so magnificent:

1.5ktons, as big as Zerstörer come. A 19KHP engine, tuned for high-performance, capable of pushing the ship at a relatively stately pace of 33 knots, a speed that is satisfactory but by no means exceptional. Heavy ASW and minelaying capabilities, with double mine racks mounted at the rear.

And, more significantly: Six guns, mounted in a ABY configuration, with 'B' Turret being superfiring. Six 152mm guns. That means six-inchers, for the Imperial plebes. Guided by a Fire Director system.

In brief? Each of the G9-class destroyers mounted the same broadside as the Frauenlob or the Bremen, and had a better fire control suite.

Add to that six torpedoes in two triple launchers, and the G9s suddenly become little terrors, capable of going toe-to-toe with light cruisers, let alone enemy destroyers. They are still tin cans, of course (putting armor on a DD is a losing proposition), but their bite is deadly. And if they have tosacrifice some rate of fire on those 6-inchers, that's fine.

5 ships are laid down in early January.

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February: and Elsass completes her shakedown cruise. Too late to participate in the war, unfortunately!

The keen reader will also observe the submarine production going on in the background.

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March: and R & D submits designs for a new, multilayered underwater torpedo defense system. Yes, triple-bottoms are a good idea, especially after the spanking the French submarines gave us during the war. Galster eagerly approves the designs.

The eagle-eyed reader will also observe that the U-1, the first German submarine ever built is still operational.

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April: hmm. Interesting. The idea of putting the armored belt inside the ship meshes well with the All-or-Nothing principle, allowing for a lighter citadel 'box'; but internal armor is difficult to access and repair. The Germans will need to experiment.

Also, turtleback.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/mp8qvpn23/Screenshot_4561.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/5opun07fv/Screenshot_4562.png)

Well. That could have been more useful before we finalised the G9 designs. Still appreciated; well done R & D!

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FINALLY! Yes, by all means, make our U-Boote even better. Better pressure hulls: greater diving depths. Let's start making submarines and not submersibles, eh?

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A nice technology exchange with the Spaghettis, there. Always good to promote collaboration between nations!

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YES! Next stop: OTL USA superheavy ammunition!

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WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU, VON PAPEN?

Analysts all agree that Russia is no threat. They can barely support their population, let alone maintain a competent navy. Germany could slash her defense budget by half, and Russia would still be no threat.

And yet, with France and Russia almost ready to declare a two-front war, von Papen allows this golden opportunity for peace to pass him by.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/isvezrrsr/Screenshot_4569.png)

I...

OK. 16-inchers in 1921 is delicious. But their performance is abysmal.

No. Our 15-inchers are tested, reliable, and lighter. We'll stick with them, for now.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/sdf1mn9ez/Screenshot_4570.png)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/gxo8zgd6j/img_1240.jpg)

Well, to anyone politically savvy enough (like Streseman) this was... expected.

Since her defeat, Great Britain had been dancing on a thin line between traditional monarchy, socialism, and absolutist right-wing parties. The latter had been on the rise, with regional nationalist 'spikes' taking place in traditionally 'oppressed' regions.

On July 1923, Ireland erupts in open rebellion against the Crown, seeking independence. The Troubles have begun: a bloody civil war, with separatists scoring considerable early successes versus the English forces sent to suppress the revolt.

It is a sobering event for all monarchies in Europe.

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WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH-?

OK. OK, you know what? I won't even bother, anymore.

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THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS, YOU UTTER-

*Deep breath*

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Oh God, yes. We needed that. Now our ships can turn and evade; and their guns will reliably stay on target!

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on November 13, 2017, 12:21:46 pm
Does that event change in any way at all thanks to your meddling or do we get a full re-enactment of The Wind that shakes the Barley
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 13, 2017, 12:23:30 pm
ALL ALONG THAT SINGING RIVER, THAT BLACK MASS OF MEN WAS SEEN,
HIGH ABOVE THEIR SHINING WEAPONS FLEW THEIR OWN BELOVED GREEN:
“DEATH TO EVERY FOE AND TRAITOR, WHISTLE OUT THE MARCHING TUNE,
AND HOORAH ME BOYS FOR FREEDOM, 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON!
'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON, 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON,
AND HOORAH ME BOYS FOR FREEDOM 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON!”


EDIT: Holy crap, Joshua, you read / write fast.

The event has changed already. For one thing, it happened decades before OTL, during a period when England was going through her own Weimar Republic phase. But a Civil War does follow, and she's a whopper.

Especially since the Brits don't have the resources to fully supply the IFS as they did OTL; and the IRA split goes the other way. Ireland is out of the Commonwealth.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on November 13, 2017, 12:27:24 pm
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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on November 13, 2017, 12:41:09 pm
So I'm going to assume that the next light cruiser class is basically going to be an Atlanta?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 13, 2017, 12:46:56 pm
So I'm going to assume that the next light cruiser class is basically going to be an Atlanta?

What is this 'light cruiser' thing that you talk about?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: The E on November 13, 2017, 12:50:04 pm
Right.

Sorry.

Heavy Destroyer, I meant to say.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 13, 2017, 02:10:55 pm
I never built another CL, but this is something that could be made, based on late-game tech:

(https://s7.postimg.cc/r6pwwaq57/Screenshot-_7596.jpg)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 13, 2017, 02:54:51 pm
Okay, but who would win in a fight?
The entire kingdom of ireland vs zero potatoes?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 13, 2017, 10:00:11 pm
I never built another CL, but this is something that could be made, based on late-game tech:
[snip]

6 quad turrets on a CL! Is half the tonnage in ammo?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 14, 2017, 02:03:48 am
Naaaaah. With 140 shells per gun, we only need 300 tons of ammo.

6 inch German shells are pretty light.

So, turns out that quads are illegal on CLs. If I sacrifice half an inch of belt armour, though, I can make the belt normal instead of narrow, get full AoN benefit (which does not work with narrow belts) and still get 24 guns in on eight triple turrets.

The OTL Atlanta had a tapering belt from 3 to 1.something inches after all, so keeping this belt to an average of 2.5 inches is pretty valid.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 14, 2017, 08:26:21 am
Again, not directly related but cool none the less:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on November 16, 2017, 05:53:25 am
That's it, I ordered the game :D
Edit: Holy smoke, ship design is hell of a ride.
Before finding out that I can let the AI design the ships, I was content to copy Enioch design.
Guess I havent read the manual closely enough, after designing the legacy fleet, I thought building two more battleships would mean that they would be built, instead they showed up in my "in service"tab... clearly, I need more practice :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 19, 2017, 08:36:17 am
Nah, you get two stages. One is the ships that have been completed already, one is the ships that are halfway done. You get a huge discount for the latter.

Welcome to the fold, mate!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on November 19, 2017, 12:21:46 pm
Yeah, I figured this out.
The autodesign feature comes in realy handy, because designing the superstructure is a pain :D
Right now it's 1919, I'm at war with France for the second time after half a year of peace and find myself dangerously low on ships, since I scratched old ones.
And I guess building 44k ton battleships a year before everyone gets oil was a bad idea, but 14inches of armor are a tough nut to crack. :D
Honestly, that game is a addictive...
On friday I wanted to play an hour after dinner... the next time I checked the time it was 11 pm :D
Title: Deuxième Ronde - Zweite Runde: DING DING
Post by: Enioch on November 21, 2017, 10:37:45 am
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"The visible weakening of Great Britain during the Von Papen Wars period (early 1920s) led to overall instability in the international scene and in a de-polarisation of the diplomatic situation. Whereas Great Britain had, even after her sound defeat by Germany, served as a mighty economic bulwark and the 'Giant' of Europe, the loss of Ireland indicated that the feet of Albion may have been made of clay after all. Minor nations, who had tended to seek a potential alternative to the quickly rising Germany in Great Britain now were forced to reconsider their allegiances. Some sought to befriend the rising Power; some stuck to their guns and remained allied to the British Empire; some sought alternatives in Powers such as France, who had rekindled her ages-old feud with her Teutonic neighbour. The ideal of the Kerneuropa seemed to be hanging over the precipice, as new alliances were negotiated. Notably, the two traditional 'poles' of European diplomacy (the Anglophile and Germanophile bloc) were shaken to the core."

"During this period, the uncertainty that resulted from the fundamental upsetting of British power led to a significant reshuffling of the political landscape in Great Britain. With Ireland leaving the Crown officially in early 1924 (and promptly descending into a three-year civil war), British Unionism was considerably threatened - and its proponents reacted immediately. It is during this period that political movements such as the 'Great Idea' came back to the forefront, with political parties such as the National Democratic and Labour Party (NDLP) and the Labour Unionists (LU) attracting more and more voters."

"Germany, at the time, had her own problems[...]"


-Jeremy DeWiers PhD (Ox), The National Labour Movements before Mosley's Folly, Oxford: Blackwell 1989

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With Great Britain in the midst of a national existential crisis, the German Admiralität celebrates the commissioning of the first G9-class Zerstörer in November 1923. Schwaben is almost ready to leave the docks (commissioning is planned for January) and a second bloc of G9s is laid down to further reinforce the German fleet. The performance of the prototypes is perfectly satisfactory. Some thought is given to upgrading the second line of G9s with more torpedo tubes, but the engineers quickly determine that, with their heavy primary armament, such a modification would make the G9s considerably overweight and cost them in speed and stability.

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During the shakedown cruise of the G9, a Japanese spy is caught during a honeypot scheme to secure access to the blueprints of the new German Zerstörer. The resulting inquiry is badly handled by both the Admiralität and Streseman. Tensions with Japan rise; interestingly, Russia seems to support the Japanese. Military intelligence suspects that it may have been a joint scheme; or that Russia is just trying to capitalise on Germany's embarrassment.

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The point is that, during the January commissioning of the Schwaben, tensions with France and Russia are as high as ever. Bismarck's nightmmare (a two-front war, against France and Russia simultaneously) seems to lie somewhere in the very near future. It is imperative that the two Powers be kept from formalising their support of each other; it is towards that goal that Streseman focuses his efforts.

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R & D provides the Admiralität with designs for the new Wasserbomben, and the Piepers immediately begin receiving the new munitions.

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February 1924: Russia, thanks to Streseman's efforts, has backed down, just a bit. Military Intelligence, on the other hand, reports that the French fleet is partially mobilising, bringing several of their reserve-ships to full active status.

Streseman (and the Admiralität) recommend calm. On the one hand, the French seem to be much more organised this time around: beginning training and mobilisation this early will guarantee that no ships will be deployed with untrained crews. On the other hand, however, the Marine Nationale remains a non-threat for the German Fleet (with the possible exception of the French submarine force). An overreaction at this point will only hasten the war, before the new Zerstörer are ready to contribute.

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In response, von Papen proceeds to give an interview, in which he states his intention to mobilise all German ships in reserve, to counter French aggression.

The French are confused, and tensions remain stable, while their Intelligence seeks to make sense out of the German Chancellor's rantings. During that time, Hindenburg and Galster less-than-patiently try to explain to their Reichskanzler that Germany has no ships in reserve or mothballs. The entirety of the existing German Hochseeflotte is in active service.

Dummkopf.

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A batch of 12 subs leaves the yards in March; even more are in production...

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...while the Admiralität turns down a suggestion by the Americans to buy the formulas that the Yanks are employing on their armour hardening. Firstly: if you think Krupp will fail to provide us with properly hardened steel during the upcoming months, Amerikaner, you are woefully unfamiliar with the concept of Deutscher Stahl and everything that goes with it; secondly: we are about to embark on a tricky war, and our big armoured battlewagons have just left the slipways. Anything that would be using this technology is two-and-a-half years in the future; our priority right now is to gather up a nest egg, to get us through the war. We don't have the money to spare, sorry.

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May 1924: and the German Ambassador to Greece is shot six times in Syntagma square, just in front of the Royal Palace. He is rushed to a hospital, where he will lie for two days; he will expire on the morning of the 25th of the month. His murderer is 27-year old Ioannis Mauromatis, a Law student of Greco-Serbian descent.

Germany is, of course, livid; and von Papen's polemic is near-hysterical. The Kaiser (being King Konstantine's brother-in-law), attempts to ease the situation through personal communication; thankfully, the Greco-Germanic alliance, which has secured the Rhodes oil fields for the Reich for almost a decade, now, survives the ordeal. The Kaiser vetoes von Papen's demands that German agents should be deployed to 'assist' with the Greek investigations; but the damage in the international scene has already taken place.

The French and Russians observe the German 'proposed interventionism' with horror. A few days of tense, powder-keg diplomacy follow, during which the Admiralität watches and waits...

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See? Told ya, 'Muricans. German Steel is best steel.

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This also looks brilliant, although quad turrets are still...too crazy for the Germans.

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****.

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Here we go again. Peace lasted for less than two years.

On the morning of the 3rd of June, 1924, France declares war. Tensions with Russia are one tick away from exploding into the faces of the Germans too.

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And it is clear that the French know this and are counting on it.

During the first week of the war, their forces probe German positions twice, but stubbornly refuse to engage the German intercepting squadrons: they are buying time. They are waiting for the Russians to come in and assist; and until that time, they seek to preserve their ships.

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Their plans go somewhat awry on the 7th of June, when a scouting force of three Mortier-class destroyers and a light cruiser attempt to sneak past Texel, utilising the early morning mists.

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They are intercepted by old Bremen, escorted by the two brand-spanking-new Zerstörer G10 and S19. The Germans have only a brief contact window and they do not dare pursue the enemy under the very poor visibility conditions (who knows what the French might have lurking further back), but they still manage to score a torpedo hit on the enemy light cruiser.

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It's a minor victory and an anticlimactic baptism of fire for the G9s, but it's a victory nonetheless.

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At this point, the Admiralität scores a major intelligence success: observation zeppelins identify the French capital fleet massing in the northern Atlantic harbours. The French have emptied the Mediterranean of all capital ships.

Galster takes the opportunity, to utilise his obsolescent Schlachtkreuzer. In the Atlantic, the Von der Tann, Goeben, Moltke and Seydlitz are greatly outclassed by anything the French can field against them. But in the Mediterranean, they are bigger and badder than anything the Fromage can bring against them. The four old Valkyries are separated and sent north of the British Isles, on a long curving course to Gibraltar. From there, they are rebased in Sardinia and Alexandria, locking down the Mediterranean for good.

At the same time, R & D is experimenting with the new hardened alloys for better AP penetration caps...

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...and designs for a superlight torpedo-armed Schnellboot are submitted for consideration. These new patrol craft can greatly assist the Piepers in their patrols!

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July: first submarine reports come in.

It is a slaughter. With the French ports still open (Galster does not yet attempt to enforce a blockade), the U-Boote have prey to feast upon. That's 180k tons of merchant traffic sent to the bottom, in the most vicious month in submarine warfare history since the Anglo-German war.

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The French strike back, sinking the Carsten near Helgoland.

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...and putting six German merchantmen down. A valiant effort, for a bunch of garlic-chewers, but it cannot compare with German efficiency!

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And their ASW ships are useless.

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Their surface raiders also yield minimal results. With five German heavy cruisers standing by in the North Sea and with the G9s falling into regular patrols, the French ships have a very narrow window of opportunity to hunt down their prey.

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Throughout July and August, this situation continues. Streseman is getting reports that the Russian army is mobilising; and several German Army Divisions are deployed in preparation on the eastern borders. Meanwhile, the reinforced French fortifications on the Western Front are giving the Germans problems.

The French Fleet adamantly refuses to engage the German forces - and Galster tightens the noose, establishing a blockade. The German Schlachtkreuzer in the Mediterranean have locked down the southern harbours; the Hochseeflotte blocks traffic in the north. The French now need to respond - or starve.

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The German submarines now turn their attention to French fleet assets. The U-136 pounds a French minesweeper into submission with her 4-inch gun; and six merchantmen are sunk in opportunistic actions.

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The French try to bite back: the submarine Mameli sinks the Greta in the Mediterranean...

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...and on the 8th of August, the Corsaire sinks the RMS Scythia, a British liner.

870 dead.

Incompetent French.


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 21, 2017, 10:39:07 am
THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT CONDEMNS THE FRENCH ATTACK ON A DEFENSELESS NEUTRAL LINER.

WE WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING THIS DESPICABLE. ESPECIALLY NOT TO OUR DEAR FRIENDS, THE BRITISH.

VON PAPEN, STOP LAUGHING.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on November 21, 2017, 05:42:51 pm
Good job Admiral Enioch von Tirpitz.
My playthrough foundered.
A first war against the french ended in white peace, a second sent them running... then the russians popped up. I estimated I could beat them, they had 4 BBs against my 12... but underestimating their BC force and the cramped baltic sea saw me defeated... whenever I moved against them, my BBs were outnumbered at least 4 to 1, with their BCs featuring 15in guns, and even if I bloodied them, I got my BBs got torped -.-
Peace treaty saw me limited to 10k ships, so I pumped out DDs, subs and CLs.
When I could finally build my 52k 16inch BBs, as in 16in guns and 16in all or nothing armored battlewagons, my two modern BBs were estimated against 26 british BBs...
Granted, while declining battle, my subs reaped a fearsome tally but still...

Oh, an unrelated question: I researched AoN... but it only showed up on AI designed BBs.
I had a good design, but whenever I tried to modify it to incorporate AoN it didn't show up.
And before you ask, I only designed, but never built 'em...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 21, 2017, 06:20:14 pm
Quick response for now, crizza:

To get AoN working, the following must be in effect:

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on November 21, 2017, 07:46:30 pm
All the Unterseeboot memes

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/d82da908640eebb11dc4154f2c610592/tumblr_n29hlzczU81r0rk39o2_r1_500.gif)

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/542b0d8af7d634557616535a720eb910/tumblr_o3qidjkp4A1qj6sk2o1_500.gif)

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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on November 22, 2017, 09:46:01 am
After a long time of reading these threads I have slowly started to understand the japanese manga ship memes but there's an extra level of weirdness to the german ones which my mind can't penetrate just yet.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 22, 2017, 10:01:51 am
It is impossible to penetrate krupp stahl German memes.

Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 22, 2017, 05:52:02 pm
Accept the memes, absorb the memes, become one with the memes, enjoy the memes.

(https://s2.postimg.org/uydkafkzd/very-strong-invincible-l-give-up-america-3705-tears-of-3555556.png)
I wasn't sure how good german engineering was before, but now I fully understand.


I decided to give the game a try myself, started as glorious nippon with historical budget yesterday, finished the game at 1942 today. Games like these tend to be catnip to me.
A tl;dr, started war with france with deutschland as my ally, took all of france's stuff while germany blockaded.
Ended up fighting the russians three times, took all their stuff.
Went to war with the UK, Germany joined in on their side, war ended in a few months with a white peace, only saw a few german destroyers.
Very long war with Germany after, couldn't really get to one another so I just outlasted them with subs and took their colonial stuff in reach.
Had all these big botes with big guns, really wanted to have a big fight at least once. Went to war with the UK again, but this time I had fromage and pasta allies. UK moved a lot of ships my way, but ended up declining each battle, and the battles that did happen were always with underage boats. The brits surrendered in a few months times because 3v1 apparantly wasn't to their liking. It was pretty awful tbh.
I ended up taking all their small holdings after and called it quits.

I really don't like this nonsense of completely random battlelines. I mean, https://ibin.co/3iDmQ223xUMA.png this **** kept happening, over and over. I've got really big ships exactly for that purpose, but no, lets keep sending two destroyers that can't ****ing reach the target.
Unexpected battle! Random minesweeper runs into two enemy destroyers and dies. Okay. Stop wasting my time, ****.

Overall do think its a really neat game, but it could do with a bit of... streamlining to cut down on the more time wasting aspects of it and to update that ancient ui.
And by jove, if you have big boats, allow the player to bloody use them whenever he wants.

I'll just continue enjoying Enioch's posts from here on.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 22, 2017, 05:54:45 pm
P.S. Battleships with torpedoes are the bestest thing forever. Put tubes on all the BB's
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 23, 2017, 03:04:27 am

I really don't like this nonsense of completely random battlelines. I mean, https://ibin.co/3iDmQ223xUMA.png this **** kept happening, over and over. I've got really big ships exactly for that purpose, but no, lets keep sending two destroyers that can't ****ing reach the target.

>sends his DD shipwaifus on a raiding mission.
>gives the order for them to move at flank speed.
>over hundreds of miles.
>is surprised when he runs out of fuel.
>is ****ty admiral.

Spoon.

Spoon y r u so crap?

Spoon. Mate. "Cruise speed" is called that for a reason. Because you select it when you're cruising and you drop your fuel consumption to ridiculous levels.

Flank spid iz 4 battel Spoon.

Shamefur disopuray!

#weaboonoobbashing

(This hilarity, of course, does nothing to detract from the validity of your points re: random battles. All I can say is, if you're actively looking for a fight, consult the strategic map as often as you can, find where the enemy keeps their biggest ships, and send your own capitals in the same sector. Usually that helps.)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 23, 2017, 05:58:43 am
I think you misunderstood, can't reach the target with their main guns. (I made sure to include the gunrange in the screenshot so it was self evident what my point here was :p) Fuel wasn't the issue. Never has been, haven't had a ship run out of fuel even once.
https://ibin.co/3iHMithQOYpT.png because this stuff was happening frequently.

(This hilarity, of course, does nothing to detract from the validity of your points re: random battles. All I can say is, if you're actively looking for a fight, consult the strategic map as often as you can, find where the enemy keeps their biggest ships, and send your own capitals in the same sector. Usually that helps.)
I was activately looking for a fight! It's not my fault that the game just kept deciding on sending a few destroyers at a time while the forces in the area said something like 2BB 6BC 4CA 30DD  vs  6BB 4BC 3CL 15DD. Over and over again.
It's dumb.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 23, 2017, 08:36:27 am
Objections withdrawn, that's actually retarded. In my defense, I thought that the circle was the fuel range circle not the gun range one.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 23, 2017, 09:42:21 am
>Is seasoned Admiral
>Can't tell fuel and gun range apart from one another
 :p

When I said it happened frequently, I meant this: The second screenshot at Tanga happened the month after the first one. Then after that, followed 3 more coastal raids at Kavieng, one that had just double DD's again. One where it actually allowed me to bombard it with a BC (which then ran into a mine at the end of the senario so it was still a major german victory...) and the third, where I did had a BB on the field, but during day light it was bad weather, and when the weather finally cleared up, it was night, so nobody could see the bloody target at that range.

I also had this one case of a weird bug, where two enemy CL's were standing still (during the night) but all the torpedoes being fired would lead them as if they were moving. Meanwhile, their torpedoes had no issues finding my ships. Eventually just parked one of my own CL's on their aft and pounded away.

Anyway I didn't meant to hijack the good thread with my far less interesting ranting.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on November 23, 2017, 04:32:18 pm
I played the game 4 times beyond 1930 and rarely encountered the issues Spoon had. Rather, whenever there were several B/BC/BB of both sides at the same region it usually took a maximum of 2-3 months until I got a fleet battle. One time playing as the US I decided to send my lots of BBs and BCs to Japan and right when they arrived I already got a fleet battle against an equally sized japanese fleet. Also most shore bombardements were with BCs or at least CAs.
It did help that I don't like CLs and mostly sent CAs and BCs to colonial service cause the small ships had a tendency to meet random hostile capitals all the time.
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P.S. Battleships with torpedoes are the bestest thing forever. Put tubes on all the BB's
Not so much for early game under water tubes... I felt they were rarely using them (even when barely moving right next to their target) and if they did, they still missed a disabled target somehow. Better let the DDs to the torpedo-stuff.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on November 23, 2017, 04:57:40 pm
My late game BBs equipped with AoN and 16in guns had two quadrupel launchers on the bow...
And while AoN is nice it somehow felt that they take damage way faster than other BBs.
Anyways, my way against Albion turned out hillarious. Although being blockaded and avoiding deceisive battle ( six old BBs against 26 british seemed a waste), I somehow managed to stay ahead in VPs.
And then Italy stepped in... Luckily enough I managed to let Albion explode in revolution, nab Gibraltar and keep Maine, which was the reason for the war... and now the USA have declared war.
And WTF? How are the united states able to do coastal raids against me in the baltic? :D
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 24, 2017, 04:37:29 am
Not so much for early game under water tubes... I felt they were rarely using them (even when barely moving right next to their target) and if they did, they still missed a disabled target somehow. Better let the DDs to the torpedo-stuff.
I put on the maximum amount of underwater tubes on my battleboats and they constantly got to use them (well, I manually fired them a lot that is), to great effect against other enemy capitalships. A forward launcher is amazing for when crossing the T.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 24, 2017, 05:34:09 am
Torpedo tubes are, indeed, exceptional in bang-for-buck early game, but you need to be playing on Captain's mode, so you can manually fire them. AI is much too timid with them.

Lategame, above-water tubes are a necessity, because they can be fired even if the ship is doing more than 25 (?) knots. An absolute must for cruisers and battlecruisers.

One thing that I'm eager to try is a torpedo cruiser à la GLORIOUS KITAKAMI-SAMA.Should be actually viable, mid to late game.

EDIT:

(https://i.imgur.com/C7wrHW8.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/WQrUAsy.jpg)

Only partly viable. Certainly functional, but by no means equivalent to the OTL glory that is KTKM-SAMA. Main problem is the underperforming WW1 engines and the inability to put in more than 4 torpedo launchers per side.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on November 24, 2017, 08:15:49 am
I put on the maximum amount of underwater tubes on my battleboats and they constantly got to use them (well, I manually fired them a lot that is), to great effect against other enemy capitalships. A forward launcher is amazing for when crossing the T.
Torpedo tubes are, indeed, exceptional in bang-for-buck early game, but you need to be playing on Captain's mode, so you can manually fire them. AI is much too timid with them.
That mostly. For some playthroughs I never touched Captain's mode at all and often just used Admiral's mode. It feels wrong to literally micromanage every ship (given the games realistic touch and it also too much effort). In larger battles I used the mode in between so I can command my scouting groups and battle lines, but that's it. That way those torpedo tubes are mostly worthless and cause flooding way too often...

Above water tubes on the other hand are great and the AI seems to be pretty competent on using them.

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GLORIOUS KITAKAMI-SAMA
As long as Ooi stays away, I'm all for it :yes:
KTKM = saves bad Admiral's ass by nuking everything away with endless wall of torpedoes.

Pretty sad she can't be built in RTW  :sigh:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on November 24, 2017, 10:45:54 am
Hey, this might be better!

(https://i.imgur.com/MobS99K.png)

Completely legal, by the way.

So, turns out that ships that are <=3.5ktons, can have both side launchers and centreline launchers (I did not know this, before experimenting!). Side launchers can only be triples (because of off-centre weight) but centreline ones can be quads. So, if we scale down the ship to an insane degree (3.5ktons instead of the previous 8k tons) and strip all armor off (except 1 inch of narrow belt, to make the game identify it as a CL) we have a destroyer leader, of sorts. Or, in fact, a destroyer follower - something that can send the little ones ahead to draw fire and then drop the walls of skill in their wake.

30 knots, with a piddly 5-incher turret up front (just so she can contribute somewhat to the fight as she's closing the range). Also, 5x4=20 centreline torp launchers and 2x3x4=24 side torp launchers. For a total of 44 torps, 4 more than BASED GODDESS OF OVERCRITS.

She also costs almost exactly half as much as the 8k ton variant (so you can have two of them for the same price as a big one!) and takes three months less to complete. Bargain!

I can just imagine the in-game messages. It's gonna be either something like this:

Enemy ship Insert Name Here hit by torpedo!
Enemy ship Insert Name Here hit by torpedo!
Enemy ship Insert Name Here hit by torpedo!
Enemy ship Insert Name Here hit by torpedo!

Or something like this:

SMS Amazone Torpedo Launcher* Torpedo Explodes!
SMS Amazone Torpedo Launcher* Torpedo Explodes!
SMS Amazone is sinking!
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 24, 2017, 03:36:50 pm
THANK YOU BASED KTKM
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on November 24, 2017, 03:38:35 pm
Wow, didn't expect this design to be legal. Definitely Super-Kitakami.


Or something like this:

SMS Amazone Torpedo Launcher* Torpedo Explodes!
SMS Amazone Torpedo Launcher* Torpedo Explodes!
SMS Amazone is sinking!

Does this actually happen in the game? Can't remember ever seeing this message in the game.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on November 24, 2017, 03:57:47 pm
Can confirm, had one of my quad tubes on a BB explode once. Significant superstructure damage was had.
Title: Helgoland REDUX
Post by: Enioch on December 02, 2017, 07:31:23 am
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16AUG19240632

U105 TO UBK - HLGL:

FR SQUADRON IN SIGHT, APPROACHING HLGLBIGHT FROM WEST. CURRENT POSITION 53°20'27.3"N 4°16'42.2"E, CURRENT BEARING 073, CURRENT SPEED 15-17KN. MULTIPLE CAPITALS HEAVY ESCORT.


-Message sent by Kaleun Rupert Drücker to Heligoland Command upon sighting of the French Toulouse raiding task force.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/pq0w0xn9r/u-boat.jpg)

It is the 16th of August: and the Naval ENIGMA comms centres explode with activity. Submarine patrols north of Texel report a massive mobilisation of the French fleet. At least two capital ships are seen, moving towards the east; scout Zeppelins manage to glimpse the French task force making its way towards the Helgoland Bight. These waters, so often the site of clashes in the past, are about to be wreathed in smoke and fire again.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/8e0jfhtsf/b89d71f66a391ea936df2589e1136c9b--war-machine-machine-guns.jpg)

Galster mobilises his fleet Mackensen and Zähringen are docked in Emden: they are recalled posthaste and they make best speed towards Helgoland. The rest of the available Hochseeflotte, consisting of the Schlachtkreuzer Graf Spee, Hindenburg and Lützow and the Schlachtschiffe Elsass and Schwaben scramble to find the French squadron.

Scheer, commanding from on board the Elsass is pissed off: the analysts of the Admiralität have assured him that the French would not push into German waters without Russian backing. He has a few choice words for them; but his ships are ready. Hipper, flying his flag on the Mackensen has contacted him and has assured him that he is only a couple of hours away: Scheer's priority is to find the French and pin them down, while the Jagdhund closes the jaws of the trap.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/pejfo6m9b/24d8b07c95d9cbdff49c284789ad5f8f.jpg)

If they play this properly, they can end the French fleet today. If they do not coordinate properly, the French might escape - or, worse, slip by the German force to cause serious damage to port infrastructure.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/tme7wxnov/CB63-_German-line-of-_Battleships-at-_Jutland-1916-by-_Carl-_Bergen.jpg)

12:49: the morning mist has lifted; and Scheer's squadron has barely left Helgoland, when his lookouts spot enemy smoke in the distance. A cold hand grips Scheer's heart: they have almost made it to Emden unopposed. And there is no sign of Hipper.

The utter failure of the German intelligence operatives is staggering, but Scheer has no time to truly contemplate it: he has other things to occupy him. Fire flashes along the French battle-line: shells whizz over the heads of the Germans, landing around and in front and behind and on the German ships.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/yjn74cian/Screenshot_4615.png)

The French battle-line turns north, in a smooth graceful curve, keeping constant fire on the approaching Germans. Scheer points his bows at the French ships and resultely closes the range: he needs to push them away from the coastal civilian traffic, and if he has to give them his T to do so, then so be it. A French light cruiser (the Forbin, a Tage-class raider) attempts to slip by the guns of the German fleet towards the south.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/mx7ogvcmn/Exeter_sinking.jpg)

Hipper chooses this moment to make his appearance, closing in from the south. The guns of the Mackensen track the Forbin and engage at maximum range: the new Improved Directors guide her shots to the target unerringly. The Forbin is struck by six 12-inch shells at 12:47 and five more a minute later; her light armour crumples like paper and her boilers burn sky-high.

Meanwhile, the Graf Spee is leading the charge against the French battleline, and French fire is concentrating on the massive Schlachtkreuzer bearing down on them. Scheer tries to contact them, order them to break off, let the Schlachtschiffe and their massive armour take up forward positions; but the Graf Spee's wireless aerials have been blown clean off and the ship is operating under local command. And her commanding officer, Kapitän zur Zee Markus Neufahrer has no intention of hiding behind Scheer's skirts. For over ten years, now, the Zähringen-class Schlachtkreuzer have led the charge, using their massive bulk to shield their smaller allies; this time is no exception.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/9dm8xf99r/Screenshot_4614.png)

There are at least three capital ships in the enemy battle-line, all of them with heavy guns (14 inchers and higher); and they all focus their attention on the Graf. Over the course of ten minutes, the German ship is hit six times, on her superstructure and forward belt. Her 'C' Turret jams on its bearings; and her funnel is penetrated, clogging the updraft. She loses a knot of speed, but doggedly closes the distance, training her guns on the closest French capital: a Guedon-class 14-inch battlecruiser.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/54hivavqn/Screenshot_4616.png)

Bam.

The French are having none of that. As the German battleline turns towards the east, to bring their entire broadsides to bear, the French lock onto the Graf's bigger silhouette and hit her again with accurate heavy fire. Her 'Y' turret jams before it can be brought to bear; her 'B' turret is penetrated and its top blows off, riding a gout of flame. Thankfully, the unfortunate gunners had followed safety protocols and the flash fire does not reach the magazines.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4uelpm6hb/File_Graff_Spee0004.jpg)

Four more shells smash into her superstructure like hammers and pound it into splinters. More than half of her upperworks are now a mass of glowing slag; fires threaten to break out across four decks. Her damcon crews race to respond.

But she does not turn away; and her remaining guns are thundering. She has already put more than six hundred shells downrange, and she has scored ten hits on the Guedon.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/frbc0qjbj/Screenshot_4617.png)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/qe5568c27/Screenshot_4618.png)

She is not alone. Hindenburg and Lützow are following closely, in the time-honoured tradition of the Zähringen-Wittelsbach wolfpacks; and the fire that their bigger sister is drawing is fire that they don't have to suffer through. Their fire control directors are unhindered and their firing solutions are near-perfect. Hindenburg locks onto the Guedon that the Graf has bloodied and puts seven more 12-inch shells into her; Lützow does even better (even though she's operating with older directors) and drills eighteen shells into the French battlecruiser's belt.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/bi6lykvhr/Screenshot_4619.png)

Throughout all this mess, Scheer is desperately trying to get his battleships into the fight. His singular focus is drawing fire away from the Schlachtkreuzer; but in his mad charge forwards he overextends. Three French destroyers (a Mortier-class, a Pertusiane-class and a Framée-class) find their ways to his unguarded flank; and a torpedo fired at long range strikes the Elsass on her midships belt. The ship heaves and Scheer demands a damage report.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/791vwfn3j/Screenshot_4620.png)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cympufl7j/Elsass.jpg)

Aha.

AHAHAHAHAHA.

TWO FLOTATION PIPS NO FLOODING AHAHAHAHA.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/buy04r61r/Screenshot_4621.png)

Scheer's evasive maneuvers split the battleship force away from the Schlachtkreuzer; they slot onto the Guedon's ass and try to catch up. Meanwhile, the Schlachtkreuzer redouble their efforts: Lützow already has chewed through half of her ammo stores. But the Graf is still the centre of attention for the French. One of the French capitals - a slow battleship, from what the German lookouts on the Elsass can make out, fires at the mangled German behemoth; and one of her shells penetrates one of the Graf's secondary turrets, blowing it clear off its bearings. By now, the ship has taken more than twenty hits from capital-grade weapons and has 'only' scored fourteen hits in return.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/afwfg1ke7/Screenshot_4622.png)

However, the Graf's damcon crews have managed to field-repair her turret drives. 'B' turret is utterly dead, of course, but the rest of her battery (fifteen 12-inchers) can now traverse and engage. Neufahrer orders a hard turn to port for his battle-group, to unshadow his starboard secondaries and make sure that no enemy destroyers will get too close.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/wf2u3aqyn/Screenshot_4623.png)

And then he gets a good look at what is firing at him. Buggery. This is a Toulouse, a relatively old French-version of the 'triangle ship'. She's a cheap, pocket version of the ships that the Brits and Japanese and Italians tried to produce to counter the Zähringens. She's got a jammed turret, but she's still putting accur-

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cadvbfhbz/gallgrafspeescuttling08.jpg)

BANG

The entire ship shakes - the helmsman reports a total loss of control and Neufahrer's face goes white. The rudder is hit and it is jammed fully to port. The Graf is uncontrollable and circling; and fully exposed to the enemy guns. Thankfully, her armor defeats another French shell that tries to find its way into her engine room.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ep15ib33z/Screenshot_4625.png)

It takes the Graf's damcon crews several grueling minutes to restore her rudder, and, when they do, they are forced to jettison one of her twin rudders that dug limply into the water like an anchor. She now handles like a pig and needs to be steered with the help of her props, but she does answer the helm partially; and Neufahrer takes her back towards the starboard. He is sitting directly between the three enemy capitals, taking fire from every side and he needs to disengage -

-and that's when the Elsass and the Schwaben finally run down the Guedon and fire into her aft from a range of less than four thousand yards. Twelve 15-inch rifles boom -

(https://s33.postimg.cc/jqd4x5kfz/fbc26d4e394d050f78c855a5b21546fa.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4eyqj2ky7/Screenshot_4624.png)

-and five shells find their way into and through the Frenchman's aft armour. Smoke and fire belches from her funnels and three of her turrets go up like roman candles. She is finally dead.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/tkzopxotb/Screenshot_4626.png)

Neufahrer limps away and Sheer's division takes up point. The Hindenburg is unlucky enough to receive a final slap from the second Guedon, and she loses a turret, before the attention of the Frenchmen shifts very firmly onto the charging German battleships.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/nwtdz1zwf/Screenshot_4627.png)

Behind the Germans, the dead Guedon goes up in an apocalyptic fireball. The fires have reached her magazines.

Meanwhile, the Graf is-

(https://s33.postimg.cc/rgfbovprj/Screenshot_4628.png)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/y8ac58yxb/scheisse.jpg)

-HOLY ****-

What's left of her superstructure is burning, but most of it is utter, glowing slag. All of her portside secondaries are gone. She is listing heavily and half of her reserve buoyancy is lost. She can't make more than 16 knots, and she shouldn't, because she's flooding, taking on nearly thirty tons of water every minute. Her decks are a slaughterhouse. And her damcon crews are fighting like demons to keep that fire from reaching the magazines.

How the **** is she still floating?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cx86nfmbz/Screenshot_4629.png)

But from behind her comes another flash and a cloud of smoke that reaches sky-high. Something has struck the Toulouse - and her weak, nine-inch belt has not withstood the blow. Her magazines go up and the Frenchman dies.

Post-battle analysis will show that only the Hindenburg was firing at her at the time. Gottverdammt, the Wittelsbachs are awesome. Built thirteen years ago and they're still wiping the floor with the garlic-eaters.

Suddenly, that last Guedon is very much alone.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/3pfy6ps4f/Screenshot_4630.png)

The Destroyers fan out to cover her flanks, and help her retreat. She can do so - she can certainly outrun every German capital ship on the field. But she'll need time - and her destroyers are offering their lives to provide her with this time.

The Hindenburg and Lützow see what's happening and turn their guns to engage the closing destroyers. But it's too late: S15 is the first to buck wildly, as a French torpedo finds her mark and buries its warhead into the fragile tincan's hull.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/4rq4pb0nz/Screenshot_4631.png)

Hindenburg has barely time to spot the incoming spread and engage torpedobeats. A single French fish screams past her. Lützow is not so lucky. She finds herself facing a spread of three; and ends up taking one on her starboard midships.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ggu4da727/Screenshot_4632.png)

She ends up losing a boiler and her starboard wing turret - and she's flooding heavily. Her captain falls out of formation. There is little she can contribute, with her stricken engine. She sails south, to join up with the Graf and provide aid.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/jnonwx6xr/Screenshot_4634.png)

The Graf...surprisingly does not require help. She has put out the fires; and her flooding is under control. Somehow, somehow she is still steerable and able to make cruise speed to Helgoland.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/cympug0n3/Uruguay-_WWII-_Large.jpg)

She looks like nothing more than a floating wreck. Truly. No German ship has ever taken such a beating in history. Two out of three crewmen are casualties; two out of five are dead.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/hj4avvflr/Screenshot_4636.png)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/fejxus69b/Screenshot_4637.png)

It is left to Scheer to clean up. Elsass and Schwaben scatter the French destroyers with their secondaries and engage the last Guedon, driving her towards the east and Helgoland.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/fejxut14f/Screenshot_4638.png)

Meanwhile, Hipper is smashing the French destroyer screen that tried to run down the hurt Schlachtkreuzer. 12-inch guns make short work of the French tincans.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ggu4ddu8f/Screenshot_4640.png)

And little Bremen, who has spent the entire fight trying to catch up with the fleet, her old boilers almost bursting at the seams, as always, finds her own little moment to claim glory. Through the French destroyer formation and the smoke, she spots a French Du Chayla cruiser - which she engages with her old, worn-out six-inchers.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/au2ctbopr/tanya_degurechaff_youjo_senki_drawn_by_paintrfiend_sample-44a.jpg)

Booooooom.

Seriously, Frenchies. Bremen is a ****ing legacy ship, built in the nineteenth century.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/a351a54rz/Screenshot_4639.png)

Scheer claims his own cut of the meat at 15:54. The last Guedon, her guns utterly silenced, strikes her colours.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/wf2u3hlvj/Screenshot_4641.png)

There is only the few surviving destroyers left to hunt down and kill.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/681n708lb/Screenshot_4643.png)

Haha.

Hahaha.

HAHAHAHAHA.

The victory is total. Despite the horrific pounding the Graf received, she somehow reaches port; the Germans have been mauled (especially the Schlachtkreuzer divisions) but have lost no ships. Even the S15, struck by a French torpedo, survives to fight another day. There cannot be a more eloquent demonstration of the new G9's durability!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/fftvnqi8f/Screenshot_4644.png)

Meanwhile, the French have lost three of their biggest capital ships, including the ultra-modern 40kton Montcalm and Dupetit-Thuars, not to mention the Toulouse. And, of course, we have not begun to address the massive blow that the French light forces received in this battle. Two light cruisers gone; and, perhaps more significantly, eleven Destroyers, out of a total of twelve were sent to the bottom of the Bight. France's escort fleet is utterly gone, right now.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ykx4xgevz/Screenshot_4646.png)

And, by God, do they feel it!


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Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 02, 2017, 07:33:17 am
*LANGSDORFF INTENSIFIES*

No, I still don't know how the Graf made it out of that mess alive.

*Obligatory ATEN'T DEAD joke*
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on December 02, 2017, 08:26:35 am
Are you playing with cheats? How are those two destroyers not on the bottom of the ocean? How is the Graf Spee not an unintentional submarine yet?

What level of torpedo defense does Elsass-sama have? Or are the french torpedoes just that undeveloped?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on December 02, 2017, 08:31:33 am
Reading this it feels to me like like all those fights are the same. Hostile fleet gets trashed and a heavily damaged german capital ship survives due to some miracle. German engineering is truly the best in the world ;)

Also, what Spoon posted just before me. My ships rarely escaped submarine mode when they actually got damaged heavily...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: crizza on December 02, 2017, 08:42:42 am
In my opinion it's about speed.
Going fast in damaged/flooding ships is a death warrant.
Whenever one of my capitals is flooding, I turn the whole battle line away, going sq. max of the damaged ship and waits till no more "limits flooding" warning pops up.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 02, 2017, 08:53:29 am
Are you playing with cheats? How are those two destroyers not on the bottom of the ocean? How is the Graf Spee not an unintentional submarine yet?

What level of torpedo defense does Elsass-sama have? Or are the french torpedoes just that undeveloped?

I am not playing with cheats.  :p

It definitely seems like French torpedoes suck, because Elsass-nee-sama only has 2 levels of torpedo protection (max is 4)

Let me put this utter incompetence of the French fleet into perspective. France, being the OTL proponent of the jeune école, focusing on light cruiser forces and destroyers over heavy capitals, have neglected their torpedo tech. They're probably firing baguettes out of their tubes, or something.

British torpedoes hit harder six years ago. :nervous:

In their defense, France has the national debuff of 'Inconsistent naval policy', which means that their politicians can flip what they ask of their admirals overnight and expect them to follow. It's pretty clear that the utterly massive (by French AI standards) Guedons were products of such a flip from the 'light forces' focus to the 'heavy capitals' focus, and I expect that the money that their admiralty channeled into their capital ship production is money that they couldn't focus into developing a better torpedo.

France essentially has their equivalent of von Papen in charge 24/7...  :lol:

How is the Graf Spee not an unintentional submarine yet?

Actually, if superstructure damage reaches max, the ship is considered 'uncontrollable' and is abandoned, drifting. It usually sinks immediately afterwards. The Graf must have reached something like 98-99% damage saturation... :shaking:

Reading this it feels to me like like all those fights are the same. Hostile fleet gets trashed and a heavily damaged german capital ship survives due to some miracle. German engineering is truly the best in the world ;)

Also, what Spoon posted just before me. My ships rarely escaped submarine mode when they actually got damaged heavily...

I realise this and I'm trying to write it suspenseful, but we can all agree that German ships will just refuse to die, whatever the circumstances...

In my opinion it's about speed.
Going fast in damaged/flooding ships is a death warrant.
Whenever one of my capitals is flooding, I turn the whole battle line away, going sq. max of the damaged ship and waits till no more "limits flooding" warning pops up.

This.

If a ship is flooding, going at high speed reduces the chance that the 'XXX reduces flooding!' message will trigger; and increases the chance that the 'XXX high speed increases flooding!' or 'XXX bulkhead collapse!' messages will trigger. When one of my capitals is seriously hurt (say by a torp), I do my best to drop their speed to under 10 knots, until they fix the leak.

Detaching them from the battle-line is a valid option, but you have to make sure that they won't leave the flagship control radius, because then their AI might be stupid enough to order 'full speed ahead' to reach a harbour sooner and flood to death (while inching along at 5 knots might have gotten them home safe)
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: AdmiralRalwood on December 02, 2017, 01:09:51 pm
a Guedon-class 14-inch battlecruiser.
"What is this, a battlecruiser for ants?!? It needs to be at least... three times this big!"
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on December 03, 2017, 09:39:48 pm
Quote
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Even in a force as elite as Imperial Germany's Schlachtkreuzer Squadrons, the first generation battle cruisers were held in particular reverence.  Their part in forging Germany's Navy from a nascent force to the preeminent naval power of its day, coupled with the fabled actions fought in their twilight years had cemented a reputation akin to Napoleon's vaunted Grognards.  Known affectionately as the "Valkyries" among Hochseeflotte, the crews of these renowned vessels had unofficially taken to wearing Shieldmaiden pins in their caps in honor of the moniker. 
Roughly a week after the events off Helgoland Bight an Imperial Packet bearing dispatches arrived from the Mediterranean, after mooring her skipper immediately repaired aboard the wounded Graf Spee and presented a package to Kapitän zur Zee Markus Neufahrer.  In it was a teak and bronze plaque which translates:

"To SMS Graf Spee,

In recognition of your glorious action on the 17th of August, we cordially welcome you to the Imperial Order of the Death Riders.  May you continue to bring honor and victory to the Vaterland.

We have the honor to be.

Your sisters in battle,
 
SMS Von der Tann
SMS Goeben
SMS Moltke
SMS Seydlitz
"

In addition were individual letters of congratulation from each captain and most significantly Shieldmaiden pins for every member of Graf Spee's crew who had fought in her sortie.  While the Kaiser would award many a Knights and Iron Cross in recognition of August 17th action, among the ratings wearing the symbol of the Valkyries in their flat caps was considered the greatest honor.

Excerpt from "Zitadellen der Stahl: An analysis of the German Battlecruiser Force" Thomas K. Rhodes November 2, 2004
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on December 04, 2017, 11:06:36 am
I tried my hand at a second game of RTW, this time as the brits. Finally managed to get the big fleetbattle that I desired (against zee germans, it was very one sided in my favor, without any flashfires).
And I also fully experienced the fun and engaging side of playing the brits, when I had my duo of state of the art 36k ton battlecruisers, detonate within minutes of one another. Just moments into the battle commencing. That single handedly put me so far behind in VP's, that I only managed a white peace because of the 10000 submarines I had, sinking merchant ships.

Question regarding deck armor and superstructure. Does deck armor also include the super structure?

At the end of the game, I build a 50k ton BC that had a full broadside of quad torpedo launchers, a mere 6 12 incher's, 16 8inch secondaries, and a t h i c c belt of 17". It only had 2.5" of deck armor, but considering its role of 'up close and personal', it wasn't expected to bounce long range shells on its deck.
I charged it into a fleet of enemy BC's for ****s and giggles, that had guns ranging from 13 to 16 inch. But before my BC had closed the distance, it had already suffered 70% structure damage.
Sure, even at the very end when it was on fire and flooding, it could still manage a decent 24kts, but outside of the engines, few things were still working on it.
Can you even migate structure damage in any kind of meaningful way with armor?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Admiral MS on December 04, 2017, 02:23:41 pm
So I also started another round (now 1920) as Austria-Hungary with 40% technology rate (so my ships aren't outdated too fast) and varied technologies for more randomness. Every 5 years there was a war against Italy and I got a fleet battles every 3-4 months (and many other battles also involved the BCs). Kinda expected when you can nearly shoot at the enemy harbour from you own :D Toppled their government twice despite sending those revolutionaries away. Starting with the second war I managed to sink a lot of their ships but their fleet (and budget) was always larger than mine. Also my Cruisers exploded very often...  :ick:

Can you even migate structure damage in any kind of meaningful way with armor?
Thinking realistically - it is nearly impossible to slap sufficient armor on all that relevant stuff sitting on top of the armored parts. History has shown that destroying the superstructure is often way easier than actually sinking the ship. I think that there is no way in RTW to protect your superstructure besides the conning tower.
My last round some months ago was with the 18+ armor mod and I had ships with 16 inch guns whose citadel was immune against their own guns at all ranges. One fleet battle I did the same you did and was quite successful. My artillery could handle the enemy ships at close range and half of them were down when my fleet had passed the japanese fleet. The main problem were japanese steel fish but torpedo protection 4 ensured that only one of my BBs went down. So kill them before they kill you with fire...
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 04, 2017, 03:27:34 pm
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Excerpt from "Zitadellen der Stahl: An analysis of the German Battlecruiser Force" Thomas K. Rhodes November 2, 2004

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This is canon.

Question regarding deck armor and superstructure. Does deck armor also include the super structure?

Can you even migate structure damage in any kind of meaningful way with armor?

Short answer: no, no.

Deck armor lies the length of the centre of the ship, under the superstructure. It does not cover the superstructure.

Long answer: what MS said. It's just not viable, weight-wise, to armor the entire ship. "If you protect everything, you protect nothing".

The way I've seen it, the close-range brawler concept works, but you must have the volume of fire and the penetration capabilities to punch back at your opponent as you're closing. Survivability comes in two ways: being able to tank the shells that are going to hit you (armor and displacement helps with this) and killing guns on the opposite team (good guns work with this).

If your guns are piddly and you're facing, say, a total of 20 rifles on the other team, then these rifles will be firing at you all the time as you're closing. And your belt might tank some hits, but your superstructure will be bashed to hell and back (see what happened to the Graf). But if your guns are good, then every time you fire you have the chance of knocking out enemy turrets, and that reduces the incoming fire, and that, in my experience, is more important for surviving in the long run. That is the only way you can protect your superstructure: take away the opponent's capability to fire at it.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: StarSlayer on December 05, 2017, 11:51:29 am
Can't publish pics...yet. Read all about it in my project blog, which should be going up this November!  :p

I don't own a Fedora. I own a Panama...

(https://s26.postimg.org/alf6hriu1/Belloq.jpg)

After all, somebody else discovered the shield. :drevil:

Sooooo Belloq, did you ever crank up a blog for this stuffs?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 05, 2017, 12:21:58 pm
Currently under construction (http://warriors.ulb.be): we had a bit of a delay with the publication permits...

No, the coffeepot is not going to be a final background image.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: SpardaSon21 on December 05, 2017, 05:05:40 pm
So, Enioch, following your tradition so far of playing as the nation you beat the crap out of the last game, does that mean your next game will be as the baguettes or vodkas?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on December 18, 2017, 05:15:52 pm
Whar teh updates at?
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: TechnoD11 on December 18, 2017, 08:58:48 pm
Whar teh updates at?

Seconded   :nod:
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 19, 2017, 12:54:40 am
Little busy with work right now, but I should have something for you impatient buggers by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Col. Fishguts on December 19, 2017, 04:16:38 am
To get in the mood:


[attachment stolen by Russian hackers]
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Enioch on December 19, 2017, 04:22:52 am
*Wolf whistles*

Dayum, gurrl, dat's a fine aft.

Consider me "in the mood". As it were.
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: Spoon on December 19, 2017, 04:59:38 am
Something to watch while we all patiently wait
Title: Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Post by: -Joshua- on December 19, 2017, 12:13:48 pm
Consider me "in the mood". As it were.
?
Title: Von Papen's end
Post by: Enioch on December 19, 2017, 01:09:10 pm
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"The nation demands a movement which has written upon its banner the internal and external national freedom that it will act as if it were the spiritual, social and political conscience of the nation."
-Franz von Papen, in the Von Papen trials.

"To contrast national solidarity and international cooperation as two opposites seems foolish to me."
-Gustav Stresemann, in the Von Papen trials.

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August 1924: and the Admiralität deploys the Valkyries from the Mediterranean to the Far East, to put pressure on the French holdings in the region. The old Schlachtkreuzer are deemed obsolete, by now, and there is little for them to do in the Mediterranean: in the South China Sea, on the other hand, they will reign supreme. The Bismarck and her sisters are sent to take over in the Med, operating off of Rhodes and Gibraltar.

The Valkyries prove the Admiralität's estimates to be correct when the Von der Tann encounters the enemy raider Troude in the Indian Ocean; the French light cruiser barely makes good her escape, under a hail of 11-inch shells.

Freya, in the North Sea, encounters the French raider Chanzy and manages to thwart her attack on merchant shipping, but fails to sink the Frenchman.

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Before the end of the month, the French ask for peace. They have lain their hopes on a Russian intervention; but the Russians have been kept from declaring war thanks to Stresemann's tireless efforts. The German Foreign Minister is a shade of his old self, regularly running twenty-plus-hour workdays; but after six months of war the French are still alone in this and now there is a chance to end the conflict.

Hindenburg, Galster, His Majesty and Stresemann all agree: the war needs to end now and the French proposal has merit. Germany can push for more favourable terms, of course, but if good faith exists on both sides...

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It doesn't.

Von Papen dynamites the peace talks, by adopting a harsh stance that runs completely against what the Kaiser and Stresemann are pushing for. Once again, the Reichskanzler shows his utter inability to face reality. Despite Stresemann's and Hindenburg's warnings that the Russian army is weeks away from mobilising, the negotiations fail to reach a satisfactory agreement. The land war resumes, after a brief interlude.

At this point, the Kaiser has had more than enough. He has appointed von Papen under pressure from several major noble houses; but von Papen has proven to be a major liability for the Reich. His Majesty begins to meet in secret with officials he deems trustworthy. He can strip Von Papen of his position as Reichskanzler at will, but that will cause major internal friction among the nobility, who have found in him an easily manipulated ally. What the Kaiser wants is to utterly decapitate the unruly faction among the nobility and reclaim control over his own government; he looks to his Heer, his Marine and his Auswärtiges Amt to do so.

He also dips back into his old Spionspiel hobby. With the cooperation of Stresemann, select agents of the Amt and Military Intelligence personnel are given the task to investigate the Reichskanzler - and his suspected clandestine activities.

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Meanwhile, R & D provides the Admiralität with brand spanking new stereoscopic rangefinders (a surprise development, with final blueprints being handed in long before the anticipated date of completion of the project) and new torpedo engines. A maximum range of 12k yards for German torpedoes? Yes, please!.

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The German fleet, meanwhile, continues with its blockade of French ports. Lack of medicines and food has had its impact on the French population; there are rumours of protests in Paris, that remind the savvy Germans of the London riots. His Majesty takes these rumours in with serious concern and accellerates his plans.

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The submarines on both sides reap their bloody toll. German U-Boote bring home a meager catch: just a single merchantman and two coastal patrol vessels. Meanwhile, the French sous-marins score fifteen merchant kills, sink a minesweeper-

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-and, in a blow that has Galster pulling out what little hair he has left in his old age, send the heavy cruiser Hansa to the bottom.

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This is a major success for the French. However, it also serves to cement the Kaiserliche Marine's determination to support the Kaiser against Von Papen. From a crew of 830, only 140 men survive the freezing waters of the North Sea; and there is not a single sailor who does not know that their mates would have been alive, had the Reichskanzler made peace a month ago.

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It is a meagre consolation when old Hela encounters an unescorted French convoy in the Med and sinks it with extreme prejudice.

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September; and Galster pours some money into the Tanga and Kamerun harbours, bringing them up to spec. No major works have taken place here since before the construction of the Zähringens and this is as good a chance as any (especially now that the wartime Navy budget can support it).

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The first G9-class Zerstörer of the second batch leave their slipways-

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R & D presents the Admiralität with their very satisfying progress reports on their current projects (none of which is yet ready)-

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And submarines and raiders on both sides carve yet another chunk off their enemy. Interestingly, we have here a reversal of the Anglo-German war. The German fleet is blockading the French harbours - but the French submarines are savaging the German merchant marine. Hindenburg and Galster know where this is liable to lead. In a few weeks, the German population will begin feeling the results of the French raiding strategy - what happens after that is anyone's guess.

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The Valkyries, having now arrived in the Far East, deploy to shell enemy coastal fortifications in Tonkin. The French do not sortie to stop them; the German ships drop a few hundred tons of heavy ordnance on the enemy positions and retreat.

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And then, the French try to sneak a small raiding force into the Bight again. This time, no battlecruisers, or capitals: only light forces. It's a smash-and-run raid, one that might have had a chance of succeeding-

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-if Bremen, the Graf, Zähringen and Hindenburg hadn't been on-station to intercept.

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Bremen was the first to engage the enemy, alerted to their presence by the frantically retreating G8, an older, second-rate Zerstörer, that had found herself charged down...

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...by an enemy D' Assas-class light cruiser and her destroyer escort. Unfortunately for the French, the Bremen hugely outgunned their destroyer-leader.

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Not to mention the Schlachtkreuzer, that were coming up from the south.

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As they close the range, the Graf torpedobeats like a baws and dodges two enemy fish; the Zähringen slips between two more but gets clipped by a third near her Y turret. Flooding is minimal and her speed is barely affected; her captain sacrifices a watertight compartment to keep up the chase.

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It doesn't take long. Bremen and the Graf score more than thirty hits between them on lightly armored targets; the 6-inch and 12-inch German shells rip through their targets with ease. Three hours after first contact the last French destroyer slips under the waves. The French have lost four more tincans and the light cruiser D' Entrecasteaux.

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It's nothing to brag about, but it'll do.

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This on the other hand, is interesting. Very happy with the performance of the Elsass-class superdreads, Galster lays down two Hannover-class successors. In many respects, they are essentially copies of the older ships; but their engines are considerably more powerful, to lug their upgraded torpedo defense systems around. These are ships that will not sink, with a 17-inch thick belt and turret front and a 3-inch turtleback All-or-Nothing armour scheme. They are armed with 12 of their predecessors' 15-inch rifles, more than enough to bloody anyone's nose.

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Ten million Reichsmark as a downpayment is a massive sum, but it'll hopefully be a long-term investment. Galster is anticipating that these ships will outlive him: he sees them as his legacy to his successor.

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November. The first improved compressed air tanks are fitted to German subs; furthermore, spies in France confirm that the food shortages are now affecting the majority of the population.

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Unfortunately, the German population is not better off. For the first time since the Anglo-German war, the Germans know hunger. Say what you like about the French, but their submarine captains are putting up a desperate fight.

Dissent against Von Papen's handling of the war is now prevalent in the population. The Kaiser faction wastes no time in capitalising on this. Hindenburg and Ludendorff, in particular, push the Dolchstoss narrative in the Army for all its worth!

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The French surface raiders join in the fight!

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Thankfully, the French lose the Pascal to lack of fuel. That's a relief for the Admiralität.

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Damn-

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-it-

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-Baguettes-

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-FITE ME!

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Please?

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ARRRGH!

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13 November 1924, 10:20 in the morning. An 8-ship German convoy has just left Alexandria, with a cargo of grain and nitrates. It is escorted by three G9-class Zerstörer, the G9 herself, and her sister-ships, the G10 and S19.

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10:27: lookouts spot an enemy cruiser, closing in from the north-west. The Zerstörer batten down the hatches and prepare to defend the convoy against whatever skilled raider the French have deployed against them...

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...and then the identification comes in, and the Germans laugh.

The enemy ship is a Jean Bart: she mounts a grand total of ten 4-inch guns. The German destroyers, put together, have eighteen 6-inch rifles and their torpedoes to fire back at her.

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And they do.

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It takes one smashed and one jammed gun mount for the Jean Bart to WUSS OUT LIKE A LITTLE *****.

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The Zerstörer let her go. Their job is to safeguard the convoy, and if she comes back, there's more of that waiting for her.

Run home, little Frenchie.

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What a glorious baptism of fire for the G9s! Even better, it's late November, and there's a huge batch of the little murderballs about to leave the slipways.

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...just in time for the Bismarck to be moved in, with a faulty condenser. Ah well, it happens. She's been on active duty without a major refurbishment for years.

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At this point, the French once more propose peace.

Von Papen launches into his usual polemics, proclaiming to the world that the Germans will only accept peace if it is dictated in Versailles. In this, he betrays his ambition: he sees himself as a new Bismarck and seeks to emulate his accomplishment.

His Majesty has dealt with Bismarck in the past. He knows how to deal with this overambitious scarecrow. And his Intelligence personnel have just delivered him a jewel of a find.

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In the morning of the 2nd of December, and under the direction of Hindenburg, several companies of Imperial troops mobilise throughout Germany, seizing crucial facilities and placing nobles that the Kaiser suspects are supporters of von Papen under house arrest. Simultaneously, von Papen hims