The shot with all the ships... I know they wanted to put as many as possible in one shot and it looks cool but could they at least try to have some kind of formation? That random bulk of ships might be the least effective formation I have ever seen.
I bet they would waste a lot of firepower by ships blocking each other, let alone that if that is supposed to be before a battle, once the battle starts manouvering will be hell.
Of course, if you ask me, anything other than turning the Thrawn trilogy into movies was a big mistake.
@1:01 right of shot, is that the ghosty named ship from the cg animated series that I never watched? Thought it was a YT-2000 for a second.This is indeed the Ghost from Star Wars Rebels.
Thrawn doesn't work as a main antagonist in a mainline saga movie, there is no Ysalamiri in the new canon and without those the moment the Force steps in he's screwed.Of course, if you ask me, anything other than turning the Thrawn trilogy into movies was a big mistake.
I couldn't agree more.
It didn't even have to be a faithful adaptation, it could have been a mash-up of the best ideas of the EU, like how Dark Knight Rises mashed up No Man's Land and Knightfall.
The books were written before the prequels so that alone presented a great opportunity to reimagine the clones in the story, and return to Coruscant. The MCU reworked Civil War to fit the cinematic universe they had created, very successfully!
But no... instead, we get this.
Rebels is based on Clone Wars, which is based on the Prequels, so I really really REALLY hope that there's no tie-in. Anything that legitimizes the prequels is a serious no-go.
Clone Wars and Rebels are good though.
Clone Wars and Rebels are good though.
The best stories in Star Wars were wiped from canon to make room for the new movies. When it's time for the prequels to be replaced, unfortunately Clone Wars and Rebels will suffer the same fate.
Well of course, after the Prequels it became obvious that George Lucas is pretty much the last person you should listen to on Star Wars.I think the guys that thought of implying Palpatine was right all along in building a Death Star because of the invaders from another galaxy only he knew about might be better candidates and this just off the top of my head.
Well of course, after the Prequels it became obvious that George Lucas is pretty much the last person you should listen to on Star Wars.I think the guys that thought of implying Palpatine was right all along in building a Death Star because of the invaders from another galaxy only he knew about might be better candidates and this just off the top of my head.
That's new.Well of course, after the Prequels it became obvious that George Lucas is pretty much the last person you should listen to on Star Wars.I think the guys that thought of implying Palpatine was right all along in building a Death Star because of the invaders from another galaxy only he knew about might be better candidates and this just off the top of my head.
Wasn't that a big internet theory for why Revan disappeared in between KotOR and KotOR 2? Some "unknown threat" from outside the Galaxy?
I don't watch CinemaSins because it's dumb and boring. Coincidentally, I felt the same thing about this trailer.
Indeed. Which means it's likely a Netflix affair for me in 6 months on some cold and lonely night when the wife is out and I'm stuck at home with the kids.
Because too many people have watched CinemaSins and think that good critique is the same thing as mindless nitpicking and then declaring a thing to be bad.
I just want a competent, decent story that I haven't seen before. Sadly, none of the Disney **** has been anything we haven't seen before. TLJ tried some new ideas and failed miserably, but even that was a lot of the same old same old.
I skipped Solo because I heard Darth Maul was in it. Keep prequel **** in the prequels, I don't know how I can say that more strongly than by not buying anything.
I skipped Solo because I heard Darth Maul was in it. Keep prequel **** in the prequels, I don't know how I can say that more strongly than by not buying anything.
I want a full on, Ancient Egyptian destroy-all-murals-depicting-the-prequels, total full on replacement of the prequels, and anything that derives from them. I think continuing the Star Wars story forward when the base of the story is in such shambles is irresponsible.
I will still maintain that, apart from Solo (a movie so deeply uninteresting to me that I haven't seen it yet), the Disney SW movies so far have been uniformly better than the George Lucas films. Rogue One is an unexpectedly brilliant addition to the canon, it's the "adult" Star Wars film that I never knew I wanted. TFA is something of a franchise reboot, a re-statement of the core themes of the original Star Wars before it all got muddled through layers of EU and prequel weirdness, TLJ is a deconstruction of a few lingering pieces of unexamined tropes in SW (the "chosen one" thing, the "lineage" bull**** that ran throughout the EU, the "bold hero is always right" stuff)...
It's a pretty low bar and while I generally agree with you... Darth Maul was easily the best part about the prequels.
I want a full on, Ancient Egyptian destroy-all-murals-depicting-the-prequels, total replacement of the prequels, and anything that derives from them. I think continuing the Star Wars story forward when the base of the story is in such shambles is irresponsible.
I don't know. I think there's enough good ideas and material in the prequel trilogy that it wouldn't require such a dramatic, scorched-earth retcon.
There's a good story in there about the fall of a democratic society, the hubris of the Jedi leadership, and the danger of pouring your hopes into an individual "hero".
Kind of like the extended universe in some ways: Keep the bits with merit; drop the nonsense. No need to torture those crystals.
Turning the Jedi into a big stupid lazy church is only the start of the failures of imagination in the prequels. Don't get me wrong, the theme of a democratic society ruining itself into a dictatorship is certainly relevant, but the Star Wars treatment of it didn't give anyone the conceptual tools to do anything about it.
That the novelization of Revenge of the Sith is actually quite good proves that there was plenty of potential in the story the prequels wanted to tell if only they'd gotten better writing and direction. The flaws were almost entirely in George Lucas's execution.
It's definitely bombing *cough* with the TRUE FANS.Audience then.
(eg my star wars nerd friends who have seen it. Your definition of "true fan" may differ :P )
(seriuosly though "41 percent" isn't really "bombing with the fans" on a yes/no website, it just the fanbase is divided and defining anything as "the fans" as if people who bothered to signup to rotten tomatoes represent this unified front is a stupid generalization and you ought to know better!)
From what I've heard/read, this movie is hot garbage fanfic funded by Disney and Rey is confirmed as the Mary Sue of Mary Sues. I'm ready to read the sprawling HLP debate on the film when you've all seen it. I'm gonna pass, though.
Audience then.
Ah, Hard Light. I forgot about how everyone nitpicks everything to death around here. It's tiresome.
Bringing back Palpatine is incredibly dumb. Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Bringing back Palpatine is incredibly dumb. Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Yes.
Part of me wonders whether Palpetine coming back was the PLAN ALL ALONG, or it was just "oh **** we just killed our big bad guy and we have to have another big bad guy becuase we really want our Kylo Ren redemption arc"
i'm leaning towards the latter.
I'd be down right shocked if that trilogy saw the light of day. Regardless of your take on TLJ, I don't see how a greedy company like Disney greenlights three movies for the guy who is blamed for sending a non-trivial portion of the fan base running for the hills. Especially since the brand is so clearly stained by current trilogy and spin-offs. (You don't publicly announce that you're slowing film development for a successful franchise.)
No, if you're Disney... You go the marvel route in order to save the brand. You hire a producer with a vision and a yes-man directing team. (Notably there are rumors that KK is out soon and the Game of Thrones guys recently exited their own deal. Based on their recent interviews, I get there impression they don't want to be yes-men because their egos got stroked too much.)
In the end the best film in the sequel trilogy remains The Last Jedi, both as a film in solation and as a Star Wars film, I hope that we'll get Rian's new trilogy.
In the end the best film in the sequel trilogy remains The Last Jedi, both as a film in solation and as a Star Wars film, I hope that we'll get Rian's new trilogy.
Given Solo's failing and TRoS's sub optimal opening weekend, I'd be surprised if Kathleen Kennedy, or anything she greenlit that isn't solidly in production, survives very long. Johnson is almost certainly done with Star Wars, and personally I can't wait to see the back of him.
TRoS was... Fine. It was hampered by having to do so much work to fix the mess TLJ left. I haven't loved what JJ did with the sequels, but I think unquestionably we would have been better off if he'd done all three, or at least Johnson had been mandated to follow a predetermined plan. That wouldn't have fixed the tonal problems (something TRoS did get right, no more stupid "jokes" undercutting dramatic moments), but it might have prevented some of the character issues, and I can't imagine Canto Bight would have made an appearance in any prewritten outlines.
The big disappointment for me was the final space battle: it was more or less entirely recycled ships and felt lazy - I didn't see a single ship that looked like it had been custom made for the battle, which in 2019 is pretty piss poor. Combined with weird issues around the pacing and the way it was presented, it was a big step down from the other SW set piece battles (Yavin, Endor, Coruscant).
Short summary: too much movie trying to fix too many things in too short a time, but it's moderately successful at that. Spending a little more effort on making the space battle memorable would have helped. 6/10.
I.. er what... Marvel has gotten all the praise and trillions of dollars for it's successful movie conveyor belt. Dunno what you're talking about there.
It doesn't matter what you think RJ could do or what the cinema score is. Studios don't care about Cinema score either. They market with it when it's high and say it doesn't matter when it's low. See: Warner Brothers marketing BvS/JL/WW. I'm saying it doesn't make business sense to spend millions of dollars on the guy, that for whatever reason right or wrong, is blamed for splitting your fanbase in half. And if anything, Disney cares about those dollars way more than they care about creativity. Hell, that's why this trilogy is a sloppy mess. They spent the whole time catering to fan feedback.
I hear you hated the prequels. We got you. Here's Star Wars how you remember it. THE FORCE AWAKENS. What? You all thought that was basically a remake? OK... LAST JEDI. Oh? Oh no! You thought that threw out the baby with the bath water? Sorry! RISE OF SKYWALKER.
Knives Out is great though
C'mon man. Comic geeks are not the audience that Marvel Studios is worried about. Not even a little bit. By your own admission that's a tiny fraction of the current Marvel fanbase. The MCU is easily the most successful movie franchise ever. The finale dethroned Avatar... Arguably, that's the kind of success Disney was hoping for when they spent 4 billion dollars to buy Star Wars, which is still one of the biggest cultural behemoths in existence. My only point has been and continues to be that you don't go searching for that kind of success by giving the reigns to the most controversial director in the franchise to date. Whether you like TLJ/RJ or not, you can't even mention his name in Star Wars circles without getting a range of opinions. That's not the person who saves your brand.
Hell, look at how the marketing opinion has changed. After the TLJ backlash gained steam, all of Disney stood by RJ strongly. Even Mark Hamill conveniently changed his mind at one point. Gotta stand by your million dollar movie to convince as much of the audience as you can to go spend money on it. Now we're years down the road marketing the next movie and there's been article after article of actors and directors giving well calculated slights at TLJ. It's all publicity. It's all about the bottom line. They don't actually care what you think about TLJ now. They want you to go spend money on the new one... and they are trying to convince the people who didn't like TLJ that the new one is worth theirtimemoney.
My ideal Star Wars film would... probably be a three-hour long collection of fleet slugfests/door-to-door city fighting punctuated by crazy, desperate manoeuvres by the heroes to do something decisive to turn the tide, rather than the other way around like it is.
Both Solo and TROS are basically empty nostalgia trips, which is fine for a spin off like Solo but near unforgivable for the conclusion of a mainline trilogy.
That the novelization of Revenge of the Sith is actually quite good proves that there was plenty of potential in the story the prequels wanted to tell if only they'd gotten better writing and direction. The flaws were almost entirely in George Lucas's execution.
I've actually really wanted to read that story. Thank's for reminding me.
I also see the movie as a missed opportunity.
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There was also stuff that seamed unfinished/half done?
All that may be true... But not a single but of it was established, mentioned, or even hinted at within the movies. If you have to rely on that much exposition (and is all that stuff about the New Republic just what you think, or actually stuff that Disney has put out?) outside of the movie to make the background of the movie make any sense, then I'm sorry... That's just ****ty writing.
As I understand it, the New Republic wasn't taking the First Order seriously as a threatI am not certain how much time passed by between the fall of the Empire and the rise of the First Order but IIRC it wasn't that much time. So who would have thought that a complete new faction could actualy build a new fleet of superior ships AND rebuild an entrie planet into a giant space gun.
One thing that many people expected was that elements of the New Republic Navy would join up with the Resistance and fill their ranks somewhat, as not all of them would likely have been taken out when Hosnian Prime and the rest of the planets hit in TFA were destroyed. On the other hand, the First Order likely had spies keeping tabs on elements of the New Republic Navy that weren't in the home system, and when their command and support system was taken out, they would have launched calculated ambushes on these elements to eliminate them. The resistance being secret and separate from the New Republic Navy, meant that their fleet asset locations (the few they had) were unknown to the First Order and thus not hit.
Hah, I think you and I have different definitions of what a bad movie is. TLJ was pretty bad. I can give it points for ambition maybe, but ambition poorly directed and horribly executed doesn't accomplish much. TFA was...fine. I found it somewhat boring, spent most of the movie waiting to care about any of the new characters...but it wasn't awful by any means.
You can't appease Star Wars fans, might as well go with what worked best with the public that actually spends money and it seems it's turning out that TLJ is what that audience wants.
You can't appease Star Wars fans, might as well go with what worked best with the public that actually spends money and it seems it's turning out that TLJ is what that audience wants.
That's... I was going to say optimistic, but in actual fact, it's just incorrect. There's no particular evidence that the general moviegoing public enjoyed The Last Jedi more than other Star Wars movie, and plenty that it didn't.
Frankly, at this point, I think pandering to the vocal minority that liked The Last Jedi would be the worst thing Star Wars could do right now. Let the past die, right? Get rid of Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy, move on to John Favreau, Dave Filoni and Deborah Chow. We can put this whole sorry mess behind us as a fandom and maybe get back to good movies.
You can't appease Star Wars fans, might as well go with what worked best with the public that actually spends money and it seems it's turning out that TLJ is what that audience wants.
That's... I was going to say optimistic, but in actual fact, it's just incorrect. There's no particular evidence that the general moviegoing public enjoyed The Last Jedi more than other Star Wars movie, and plenty that it didn't.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi grossed $620.2 million in the United States and Canada, and $712.6 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $1.333 billion.[4] It had a worldwide opening of $450.8 million, the seventh-biggest of all time, including $40.6 million that was attributed to IMAX screenings, the second biggest for IMAX.[107][108] It was estimated that the film would need to gross $800 million worldwide to break even;[109] Deadline Hollywood calculated the net profit of the film to be $417.5 million, when factoring together all expenses and revenues, making it the most profitable release of 2017.[2]
On December 31, 2017, its 17th day of release, it passed the $1 billion threshold, becoming the fourth film of 2017, the fifteenth Disney film, the fourth Star Wars film and the thirty-second film overall to pass the mark.[110][111] The film was the highest-grossing film of 2017, the second highest-grossing film in the series (behind The Force Awakens), the fourth highest-grossing film released by Walt Disney Studios, the sixth highest-grossing film in North America, and the ninth-highest-grossing film of all time.[112][113][114][115]
Audience reception measured by scientific polling methods was highly positive.[154][155][156] Audiences randomly polled by CinemaScore on opening day gave the film an average grade of "A" on an A+ to F scale.[119][155] Surveys from SurveyMonkey and comScore's PostTrak found that 89% of audience members graded the film positively, including a rare five-star rating.[117][157][158]
Let the past die, right?
So people are now shouting to release the "JJ cut" and
How does the ninth entry in the main series need to start with a solid hour of expository dialogue? :confused:
Jesus Christ. Show; don't tell. You'd think a veteran writer-director would be able to get something that basic right, but apparently not.
This is a very late review, and you probably don't care. But this is the first movie I've ever fallen asleep in the Cinema to/10.
The only time I ever walked out of a movie theater was when I went to go see Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas and found out it was a musical, something that had not been the least hinted at in its marketing and commercials. I friggin' hate musicals.
This is a very late review, and you probably don't care. But this is the first movie I've ever fallen asleep in the Cinema to/10.
This is a very late review, and you probably don't care. But this is the first movie I've ever fallen asleep in the Cinema to/10.
I guess the only reason I'm really surprised by this is that TROS is very loud.
BREAKING - JJ Abrams has been tapped to helm a new Lord of the Rings trilogy!
Clearly, this is some very, very exciting news for the fandom! I know this is primarily a Star Wars themed sub, but due to the deep admiration this community has for JJ Abrams's storytelling you should all get a chance to share in the excitement.
Some plot points have already been leaked:
- Story takes place roughly 20 years since the conclusion of the original trilogy.
- The primary antagonist - whose name will be SNARK - has no corporeal form, but will instead appear to the audience as a giant, flaming, ominous mouth. However, a later film will reveal that Snark was simply a pawn, and that SAURON was actually the primary villain all along! Remember Sauron? He's back, baby!
- The armies of MORDOR are amassing again, only this time they are calling themselves MURDETH. The armies of Murdeth, however, still look, act, and appear exactly the same as you remember them from the original trilogy. Remember the Uruk-hai? They're back, baby!
- The reason the armies of Murdeth have been able to assemble is because all the various kingdoms decided to completely demilitarize in the wake of the War of the Ring. Don't worry though - because ARAGORN is working on putting together a strike force. Remember Aragorn? He's back, baby!
- Why didn't Aragorn use his power and influence to prevent the rise of Murdeth? Read the novels to find out!
- The primary protagonist is set to be a hobbit named DORFO. Despite living her entire life in a village that looks and sounds precisely like Hobbiton, but is called something different, Dorfo is a master of ninjitsu, oliphant riding, archery, first aid, the lute, the lyre, the tambourine, Javascript, Formula 1 repair, contract negotiation and hotpot cookery. She can also assemble IKEA furniture without even looking at the instructions and she knows every single Excel keyboard shortcut.
- Gandalf is missing! The search for Gandalf will kick off with a Macguffin chase that will immediately get sidelined when Dorfo realizes that she possesses the One Sombrero To Rule Them All. The only thing that will destroy the One Sombrero is to throw it through a dimensional portal into a realm that is nothing but ZILLIONS of volcanoes. In order to reach this portal (which lies deep in enemy territory) she much go on a perilous journey!
- Dorfo will be aided in her journey by an orc that realizes the error of his ways and turns good. This conversion have will little to no bearing on the plot, but he will, however, yell "DORFO!" quite a lot.
- Along the way, Dorfo will stop in a tavern that looks just like The Prancing Pony but will have a different name. There, Dorfo will find Frodo's dagger Sting, which will call out to Dorfo for reasons that the fanbase will have a wonderful time speculating over. Patented JJ Abrams Mystery Box magic!
- Samwise will have a lengthy cameo. He's now divorced, his son hates him, and his character development has been rolled back to the point that he is once again afraid to talk to girls. Remember Samwise? He's back, baby!
- The end of the movie reveals that instead of preventing the rise of Murdeth (and, ultimatley, Sauron), Gandalf was simply hanging out on an island. "But wait, isn't doing nothing and preventing the rise of evil deeply contrary to Gandalf's character?" The answer to the question is, of course - remember Gandalf? He's back, baby!
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BREAKING - JJ Abrams has been tapped to helm a new Lord of the Rings trilogy!
Clearly, this is some very, very exciting news for the fandom! I know this is primarily a Star Wars themed sub, but due to the deep admiration this community has for JJ Abrams's storytelling you should all get a chance to share in the excitement.
Some plot points have already been leaked:
- Story takes place roughly 20 years since the conclusion of the original trilogy.
- The primary antagonist - whose name will be SNARK - has no corporeal form, but will instead appear to the audience as a giant, flaming, ominous mouth. However, a later film will reveal that Snark was simply a pawn, and that SAURON was actually the primary villain all along! Remember Sauron? He's back, baby!
- The armies of MORDOR are amassing again, only this time they are calling themselves MURDETH. The armies of Murdeth, however, still look, act, and appear exactly the same as you remember them from the original trilogy. Remember the Uruk-hai? They're back, baby!
- The reason the armies of Murdeth have been able to assemble is because all the various kingdoms decided to completely demilitarize in the wake of the War of the Ring. Don't worry though - because ARAGORN is working on putting together a strike force. Remember Aragorn? He's back, baby!
- Why didn't Aragorn use his power and influence to prevent the rise of Murdeth? Read the novels to find out!
- The primary protagonist is set to be a hobbit named DORFO. Despite living her entire life in a village that looks and sounds precisely like Hobbiton, but is called something different, Dorfo is a master of ninjitsu, oliphant riding, archery, first aid, the lute, the lyre, the tambourine, Javascript, Formula 1 repair, contract negotiation and hotpot cookery. She can also assemble IKEA furniture without even looking at the instructions and she knows every single Excel keyboard shortcut.
- Gandalf is missing! The search for Gandalf will kick off with a Macguffin chase that will immediately get sidelined when Dorfo realizes that she possesses the One Sombrero To Rule Them All. The only thing that will destroy the One Sombrero is to throw it through a dimensional portal into a realm that is nothing but ZILLIONS of volcanoes. In order to reach this portal (which lies deep in enemy territory) she much go on a perilous journey!
- Dorfo will be aided in her journey by an orc that realizes the error of his ways and turns good. This conversion have will little to no bearing on the plot, but he will, however, yell "DORFO!" quite a lot.
- Along the way, Dorfo will stop in a tavern that looks just like The Prancing Pony but will have a different name. There, Dorfo will find Frodo's dagger Sting, which will call out to Dorfo for reasons that the fanbase will have a wonderful time speculating over. Patented JJ Abrams Mystery Box magic!
- Samwise will have a lengthy cameo. He's now divorced, his son hates him, and his character development has been rolled back to the point that he is once again afraid to talk to girls. Remember Samwise? He's back, baby!
- The end of the movie reveals that instead of preventing the rise of Murdeth (and, ultimatley, Sauron), Gandalf was simply hanging out on an island. "But wait, isn't doing nothing and preventing the rise of evil deeply contrary to Gandalf's character?" The answer to the question is, of course - remember Gandalf? He's back, baby!
Quote from: https://old.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/ew66fj/breaking_jj_abrams_has_been_tapped_to_helm_a_new/
BREAKING - JJ Abrams has been tapped to helm a new Lord of the Rings trilogy!
Clearly, this is some very, very exciting news for the fandom! I know this is primarily a Star Wars themed sub, but due to the deep admiration this community has for JJ Abrams's storytelling you should all get a chance to share in the excitement.
Some plot points have already been leaked:
- Story takes place roughly 20 years since the conclusion of the original trilogy.
- The primary antagonist - whose name will be SNARK - has no corporeal form, but will instead appear to the audience as a giant, flaming, ominous mouth. However, a later film will reveal that Snark was simply a pawn, and that SAURON was actually the primary villain all along! Remember Sauron? He's back, baby!
- The armies of MORDOR are amassing again, only this time they are calling themselves MURDETH. The armies of Murdeth, however, still look, act, and appear exactly the same as you remember them from the original trilogy. Remember the Uruk-hai? They're back, baby!
- The reason the armies of Murdeth have been able to assemble is because all the various kingdoms decided to completely demilitarize in the wake of the War of the Ring. Don't worry though - because ARAGORN is working on putting together a strike force. Remember Aragorn? He's back, baby!
- Why didn't Aragorn use his power and influence to prevent the rise of Murdeth? Read the novels to find out!
- The primary protagonist is set to be a hobbit named DORFO. Despite living her entire life in a village that looks and sounds precisely like Hobbiton, but is called something different, Dorfo is a master of ninjitsu, oliphant riding, archery, first aid, the lute, the lyre, the tambourine, Javascript, Formula 1 repair, contract negotiation and hotpot cookery. She can also assemble IKEA furniture without even looking at the instructions and she knows every single Excel keyboard shortcut.
- Gandalf is missing! The search for Gandalf will kick off with a Macguffin chase that will immediately get sidelined when Dorfo realizes that she possesses the One Sombrero To Rule Them All. The only thing that will destroy the One Sombrero is to throw it through a dimensional portal into a realm that is nothing but ZILLIONS of volcanoes. In order to reach this portal (which lies deep in enemy territory) she much go on a perilous journey!
- Dorfo will be aided in her journey by an orc that realizes the error of his ways and turns good. This conversion have will little to no bearing on the plot, but he will, however, yell "DORFO!" quite a lot.
- Along the way, Dorfo will stop in a tavern that looks just like The Prancing Pony but will have a different name. There, Dorfo will find Frodo's dagger Sting, which will call out to Dorfo for reasons that the fanbase will have a wonderful time speculating over. Patented JJ Abrams Mystery Box magic!
- Samwise will have a lengthy cameo. He's now divorced, his son hates him, and his character development has been rolled back to the point that he is once again afraid to talk to girls. Remember Samwise? He's back, baby!
- The end of the movie reveals that instead of preventing the rise of Murdeth (and, ultimatley, Sauron), Gandalf was simply hanging out on an island. "But wait, isn't doing nothing and preventing the rise of evil deeply contrary to Gandalf's character?" The answer to the question is, of course - remember Gandalf? He's back, baby!
Quote from: https://old.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/ew66fj/breaking_jj_abrams_has_been_tapped_to_helm_a_new/
BREAKING - JJ Abrams has been tapped to helm a new Lord of the Rings trilogy!
Clearly, this is some very, very exciting news for the fandom! I know this is primarily a Star Wars themed sub, but due to the deep admiration this community has for JJ Abrams's storytelling you should all get a chance to share in the excitement.
Some plot points have already been leaked:
- Story takes place roughly 20 years since the conclusion of the original trilogy.
- The primary antagonist - whose name will be SNARK - has no corporeal form, but will instead appear to the audience as a giant, flaming, ominous mouth. However, a later film will reveal that Snark was simply a pawn, and that SAURON was actually the primary villain all along! Remember Sauron? He's back, baby!
- The armies of MORDOR are amassing again, only this time they are calling themselves MURDETH. The armies of Murdeth, however, still look, act, and appear exactly the same as you remember them from the original trilogy. Remember the Uruk-hai? They're back, baby!
- The reason the armies of Murdeth have been able to assemble is because all the various kingdoms decided to completely demilitarize in the wake of the War of the Ring. Don't worry though - because ARAGORN is working on putting together a strike force. Remember Aragorn? He's back, baby!
- Why didn't Aragorn use his power and influence to prevent the rise of Murdeth? Read the novels to find out!
- The primary protagonist is set to be a hobbit named DORFO. Despite living her entire life in a village that looks and sounds precisely like Hobbiton, but is called something different, Dorfo is a master of ninjitsu, oliphant riding, archery, first aid, the lute, the lyre, the tambourine, Javascript, Formula 1 repair, contract negotiation and hotpot cookery. She can also assemble IKEA furniture without even looking at the instructions and she knows every single Excel keyboard shortcut.
- Gandalf is missing! The search for Gandalf will kick off with a Macguffin chase that will immediately get sidelined when Dorfo realizes that she possesses the One Sombrero To Rule Them All. The only thing that will destroy the One Sombrero is to throw it through a dimensional portal into a realm that is nothing but ZILLIONS of volcanoes. In order to reach this portal (which lies deep in enemy territory) she much go on a perilous journey!
- Dorfo will be aided in her journey by an orc that realizes the error of his ways and turns good. This conversion have will little to no bearing on the plot, but he will, however, yell "DORFO!" quite a lot.
- Along the way, Dorfo will stop in a tavern that looks just like The Prancing Pony but will have a different name. There, Dorfo will find Frodo's dagger Sting, which will call out to Dorfo for reasons that the fanbase will have a wonderful time speculating over. Patented JJ Abrams Mystery Box magic!
- Samwise will have a lengthy cameo. He's now divorced, his son hates him, and his character development has been rolled back to the point that he is once again afraid to talk to girls. Remember Samwise? He's back, baby!
- The end of the movie reveals that instead of preventing the rise of Murdeth (and, ultimatley, Sauron), Gandalf was simply hanging out on an island. "But wait, isn't doing nothing and preventing the rise of evil deeply contrary to Gandalf's character?" The answer to the question is, of course - remember Gandalf? He's back, baby!
At first I thought that rather than Gandalf was Frodo the Luke equivalent but then again considering how superficial JJ Abrams is he probably wouldn't get it so this is probably plausible and eerily so.
Remember when people compared TLJ to Empire and insisted that ROS would make TLJ good in the same way ROTJ made Empire good? Cause I do.
Remember when people compared TLJ to Empire and insisted that ROS would make TLJ good in the same way ROTJ made Empire good? Cause I do.
I remember when star wars was good. But that was 20+ years ago.
Quote from: CRMcNeillEpisode VII: Plagiarize the Past
Episode VIII: Let the Past Die
Episode IX: Why Not Both?
Yeah, that's the best sum-up of the Sequel Trilogy I've seen so far.
My personal sum up is kinda like this:
Episode VII: It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't so much like ANH.
Episode VIII: It wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't kill off Luke.
Episode IX: It wouldn't have been so bad if it weren't for those 2 dozen plot holes.
Episode VIII: Let the Past Die
And he actually succeeded (for once). After all, Ep 9 didn't suck (much), but it wasn't nearly as awesome as it should have been. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoOkayItsAverage) :blah: :blah: :blah: :doubt:
Well that was okay I geuss.