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Offline Kosh

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Everyone's arguing that we could go colonize Mars or whatever, that we just have to try hard enough, but...well, the fact that we have to try so hard is kind of the point.


We used to have to try REAL hard to fly, now it is a common thing. Tech advancement gradually makes such tasks become trivial everyday things.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
I don't in any way disagree.

Nonetheless the fundamental need to drag around all this absurd life support suggests that there are far better ways to do it.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Which, in themselves, obviate the need to keep pressing on. Paradox. :P
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Clarify please?

 

Offline StarSlayer

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
I think he means that since our living conditions are so specific, our need to replicate them elsewhere is more important.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Clarify please?

If you are perfectly adapted, like the dolphins, you stop adapting. It is because we are poorly equipped otherwise that we went the route we did. If we were naturally equipped to handle our home environment, would we have ever developed as far as we have? No. We wouldn't need to.

Not being strong has been our strength.
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Offline General Battuta

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Oh, right, I'd agree with that. But there's no reason to believe that our particular set of skills is the right solution to long-term survival.

 

Offline Kosh

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
I don't in any way disagree.

Nonetheless the fundamental need to drag around all this absurd life support suggests that there are far better ways to do it.

Like what?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Not be a fragile, bipedal ape who needs a very temperamental environmental and constant coddling to get by!

Be an uploaded intelligence instead. Or some species capable of easy long-term hibernation.

 

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Did you just advocate Transhumanism?  :P

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Transhumanism means we just stop again. :P I can't agree with that.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Hurr? Transhumanism means unlimited freedom to adapt purely on the basis of conscious planning, instead of the half-assed consciousness we have right now.

 

Offline Snail

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
-isms rule.

 

Offline blackhole

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
No matter how ridiculously unsuited we are to galactic domination, we'll probably colonize the entire galaxy anyway. Why? Becuase we're stubborn little monkeys.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Yeah, but the deal is, there might be things out there that are a lot more stubborn.

 

Offline Mars

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
There is no evidence for that.


We are far superior space colonizers compared to any other multi-cellular organism we've encountered.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Ex-****ing-actly. :wtf: Our sample size is one measly planet. We have no idea what's out there.

 

Offline Mars

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But we have no reason to compare ourselves to imaginary hibernating armored space bats.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Isn't that what we do, though? We think of things that don't exist yet? That's kind of our big adaptation as a species. This is a discussion about whether mankind is 'good at surviving', or whether we're maybe not as ideal as we think we are.

For example, we can compare ourselves to organisms that have survived for thousands of times longer than we have and that maintain the ability to travel between planets by crazy meteoric happenstance.

We have some of those living on Earth. They are very small, very old, and very hard to kill.

 

Offline Kosh

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Re: The Earth is uninhabitable
Hurr? Transhumanism means unlimited freedom to adapt purely on the basis of conscious planning, instead of the half-assed consciousness we have right now.


I am actually a big advocate for Transhumanism as well, but it still does have limitations. If we were able to upload our consciousness into a computer system of some sort, that system also needs to operate within a rather tempremental environmental limitations. Even though the limits are relaxed, they still do exist and we shouldn't forget that. We would still need some sort of life support to live on the moon, we would still need to develop some sort of FTL-ish space propulsion system to get to other stars in a reasonable amount of time.
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