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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Speaking of air defence: It's certainly a change to suddenly have air defence installations that actually do ****. The common AA guns throw up a lot of metal, SAMs seem more plentiful than before, and we now also have CIWS guns (on ships, platforms, and those goddamn "AD Tank" enemies) capable of shooting down your precious missiles.
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Like Shilka?
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
I'm not sure if those carry CIWS and a SAM launcher.
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
To a degree.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-23-4_Shilka

Just wondered if it's all strangereal new stuff or real world analogue :)
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Since when has it become common to shoot down IRBMs?
I know it from fiction like Tom Clancy books, but before Ace Combat Assault Horizon I wasn't aware of it.
Considering the gamepad: It brings back memories of playing AC6, but the gamepad is darn big.
The rockers on the underside are an interesting addition, but the setup I uise has either MG and missile switch or if the gamepad deactivates and I activate it again, the right rocker changes the controller setup :D
Likewise the missing right stick is odd. The pad which replaces it works just the same, but dunno, feels strange, same goes for the "cross" on the other side.
Sometimes it can be used to switch missiles, fire flares and change targets and then at the most inconvenient low-altitude flights, when switching radar mode it works as flight controll stick :D
Other then that, I guess Assault Horizon is not the best game to get back into the series :D
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please


Good use of scale birds here



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A few other, more spoilery, pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/gallery/i0OzM2F
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Since when has it become common to shoot down IRBMs?

due to a spate of anxiety in 2017 that turned me into a missile defence nerd i can confidently tell you that missile defence is fake news
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
So after spending the weekend with the game, here's my final thoughts (all spoiled to protect the innocent).

Non-spoilery opinion: Game good. Go buy. Flat doggo is best doggo.

Spoiler:
I'm not going to talk about the gameplay much in here; it's polished to a degree that only a team that hasn't done anything but games like this for a long time can do.

Storywise, this continues AC's trend of being like "What if Metal Gear Solid, but with airplanes?"; This game's theme, oddly enough, is nostalgia. At one point, one of your enemies says "As long as you're here, this country will never know peace!", and I am almost certain that this is a statement directed at us players just as much as it is directed at the characters involved. Nostalgia comes into play via the enemy ace's desire to keep flying forever, despite his failing body; he takes part in a project to upload his skills to an AI just so that a part of him can keep flying forever. The world is plunged into chaos, wars devastate nations, all because one man doesn't want to stop flying -- and again, I can't help but feel that, on some level, this is a representation of us fans: We too want to keep flying forever, but because we do, Strangereal is plunged into war again and again, over and over (Fun fact: Ace Combat X, which is actually a really good AC, takes place only a few months after the end of AC7!). 
There are also undercurrents from AC Zero resurfacing -- In that game, your friend-nemesis Pixy talks about borders and how they're invisible, unnecessary and harmful, thoughts directly echoed by characters in this game. In this, several characters echo those feelings; even the takeoff sequence of the last mission gets in on it. It's baked into the backstory of the war, with a refugee crisis being one of the instigating factors, Osea's imperialism making everything worse despite best intentions (like, seriously, there's some backstory about the space elevator and how it was borne out of a genuine desire to help but how it ended up making things a LOT worse) being the other.

It's a complex story, y'all.

But it is being told ... suboptimally, I feel. At several points, I felt like watching a movie that's been edited badly. Characters enter and leave the narrative, scenes end and begin, and there's not much rhythm to it all. The war progress is unclear, and unlike AC04, we do not have the benefit of a "ground level" POV to see what it's like to be caught up in it. The script and translation (despite the best efforts of the voice cast) make me wish I knew Japanese; Maybe in that language with its own cultural concepts, the lines flow better than they do in english.

Regardless, it is SO ****ING GOOD TO BE BACK IN STRANGEREAL. I WANT MORE. GIMME MORE. GIVE PLANES NAO, KONO-SAMA!
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
I just found out that our very own Max Sterling (yes, the one who made the robotech mod way back when) does the voice of Fencer.
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<SEX DUNGEON>

Please point on the plane where the AA touched you.

 

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I want this version (@6:35) but have . . . . . . ADULT RESPONSIBILITY.




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Five more hours to go (Steam version). Been waiting over a decade for this.

It's (almost) Time.

 

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Yeah I Pre Loaded it yesterday, hopefully its a good port.
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I don't see why it shouldn't.
Mind me, I'm no IT-expert, but with the game looking dope on console, what should go wrong by porting it?
If anything, I expect the game being polished since console release.
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I expect it to be identical at best.
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I'm not too familier either, but if it's anything; there's an indie game called Project Wingman which also runs on the Unreal Engine. That game runs pretty dang well, so I'd imagine a full-on company can definitely do it justice.

 

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Spoiler alert:



This is probably the first AC with a good bombing hud.

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Well, it seems that a bug prevents the game to recognize basically any joystick on PC including those sold as officially supported by Thrustmaster.

I really wonder how something this big slipped under the radar.

Also, the game refuses to run in 4k unless you modify an ini file for most people.
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I hope they get that fixed; I would like to pick this up for PC someday.  But if controller is the only viable option, I'll consider a console version instead.
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They have not kept the thingy from AC& were you could order allies to attack targets?

Having just started on the PC version. You can't control your allies, but they can still make kills just like in earlier games.