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Offline Rhymes

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Battlefront II is also a **** game, so...
If you don't have Knossos, you need it.

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
And tons of people complained about it for SWBF2 because trying to share the same control scheme between multiple gamepad types, joystick variations, and whatever other HID device you can think of simply doesn't work.


So it's not even AAA games killing off rebinding, it's just DICE being silly twats.
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On a side note: Can anybody point me to a decent gamepad for PC?
I'm not the joystick guy, but my Xbox360 gamepads are no longer working.
Currently I think about just getting the Steam Controller, but, well I don't know^^
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If you've got either a PS4 or a switch, it's pretty easy to get a Dualshock 4 or Switch Pro Controller to talk to your computer, and they're both excellent controllers.
If you don't have Knossos, you need it.

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Nope, didn't own a console since my Xbox360 thought about going ROD :D
And if even Assault Horizon was unplayable with mouse and keyboard, I need a gamepad for the new game.
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Really depends on what you want. If you're looking for a cheap all-rounder I'd recommend the Logitech F310. If you really want vibration you can spend a bit more on the F510 which has that.

It's got a PS2-style layout with sticks in the middle but Xbox-type buttons (X, A, B, Y). Comes with analogue triggers too, so basically identical functionality to the Xbox360 pad. The real reason you might want it is the dinput/xinput selector switch which means you don't have to mess with controller emulators for games which don't support one of those types(any older game won't support xinput as it didn't even exist back then and newer games sometimes only support xinput).

It's around $20ish so a lot cheaper than an X360 pad.

Potential downsides are that it's wired(there's a more expensive wireless version if you're into that) and that the triggers are a bit hard. It makes it easier to precisely control the pressure in games where that's needed but it can get annoying if you need to use them a lot in fast-paced action games(they're often used as lockon buttons).
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Get a dualshock 3 from cex/webuy.com for cheap. 
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Get a dualshock 3 from cex/webuy.com for cheap. 

Don't. Getting a DS3 to work on PC is a hassle; I would honestly recommend you get an XB1 controller or one of its cheaper knockoffs.
The Steam controller is, in my opinion, rather uncomfortable to use; unless you have rather large hands, the buttons are a bit of a pain. Also, while the haptic feedback for the trackpads is quite an accomplishment, I found that they made it rather hard to do precise inputs reliably.
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Spoiler:
OH HI STONEHENGE

If you don't have Knossos, you need it.

“There was a button," Holden said. "I pushed it."
"Jesus Christ. That really is how you go through life, isn't it?”

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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I have zero issues using a dualshock 3.    None at all.
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Thing is though, you can get a DS4 quite a bit cheaper, and (provided you're playing a Steam game) you don't need to install some weird third-party thingie to make it work.
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Ah, well I agree completely then.  If you can get a 4 cheaper jump on it and strangle it til it's yours.  :)  I've seen 3's cheaper than 4's is all.   

Wireless for the win mind you.
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I love AC trailers :D
Thanks for the advices guys.
A friend of mine has a Steam controller he doesn't use at all, because he cannot play games with it even if the fate of the world would depend on it.
He'll lend it to me, so I can test it out.
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Took the plunge and pre-ordered it on Steam via Fanatical (normal edition) because of the discount.
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Because I haven't been hyped for a game as much as I've been hyped for this for a loooooong time, I did a stupid and staid up until the game unlocked for me at midnight, then played for about 2 hours.

And, wow, is this game good. It is absolutely buttery smooth on my PS4 Pro, it's filled with the sort of cool callbacks that will make long-time fans of the series go "Ahhhh" while possibly not even registering for newcomers; The flight physics are probably the best in the series so far, and the addition of clouds and winds give the gameplay a depth that the series has lacked thus far.

Let me expound on that last part a bit more: One of the difficulties in mission design for a game like Ace Combat (and, to a much larger extent, for games like FreeSpace) is that most of the gameplay happens in empty space. There is no terrain to speak of to hide in, nothing that allows you to break contact easily and, conversely, nothing that makes it easy or natural for the AI to ambush you. By introducing clouds and air currents, AC7 gives you these options and adds a layer of navigational challenges that previous games had to artificially enforce (by restricting your altitude so that you have to fly in canyons, for example). This makes the game, in my opinion (and bear in mind that this is a very preliminary opinion) the best in the series so far.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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I'm definitely going to get it. But....I want to see what all this season pass nonsense relates to, if it's for single player I'll most likely claw my eyes out and go back to the free multi player one for a while. . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Combat_Infinity
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Umm

You do know that that game has been shut down, yes? You can't play it anymore.

Anyway, the "season pass" doesn't seem in any way essential to the game. Project ACES has never done story-DLC so far, and I'm definitely curious to see what they're going to release in that regard.
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I didn't know lol.   My PS3 has been mothballed for a while.

I'm hoping to see some classic campaigns remastered though.
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Any ideas if the PC version will be worth picking up? 
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Unless it's a really bad port I can't see why it wouldn't.
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