[Anaz]

I'm just against really large ships. The thing that I find the funniest is that even in a frontal assault, 20 fenris can take a sathanas...

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
2) The second time "something went wrong" onboard the Colossus was when her weapons refused to fire on the Iceni as it was fleeing through the Knossos portal. But that was due directly to sabotage from NTF spies already onboard posing as GTVA crewmen. And again, sabotage is not equivalent to an inherent design flaw.

Actually, it's probable that the "NTF" spies aboard the Colossus were undercover SOC agents. Remember, there were quite a few missions where the SOC intentionally let the Iceni escape to later learn more about ETAK and capture Bosch. It's highly unlikely that NTF spies could have gotten aboard the Colossus and disarmed its weapons--SOC agents, desperately wanting to stop Bosch and the Iceni being destroyed, disarmed the Colossus. Then they posed as NTF spies to be arrested, and probably quietly released later once the right people had been contacted.

[Solatar]

That's one of the most sensible posts I have yet heard in this topic. One telling us somethine that we didn't already know.

[Su-tehp]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Actually, it's probable that the "NTF" spies aboard the Colossus were undercover SOC agents. Remember, there were quite a few missions where the SOC intentionally let the Iceni escape to later learn more about ETAK and capture Bosch. It's highly unlikely that NTF spies could have gotten aboard the Colossus and disarmed its weapons--SOC agents, desperately wanting to stop Bosch and the Iceni being destroyed, disarmed the Colossus. Then they posed as NTF spies to be arrested, and probably quietly released later once the right people had been contacted.

Now that is a theory that would never have occured to me. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it does have merit.

SOC agents on the Colossus posing as NTF sabotuers to let the Iceni get away...this does make sense in a way. These SOC agents aren't putting any GTVA people in harm's way by sabotaging the Colossus' weapon at this time, because the Iceni, even with Bosch aboard, would have been no threat to the Colossus. Bosch wasn't striking at the Colossus; he was trying to retreat to the nebula. Even with the Colossus' weapons down, no one on the Colossus was in any real danger. Meanwhile, SOC gets another chance to find out what Bosch is really up to...

Yeah, this theory does have a lot of merit.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by BD
You know, the only thing is that...a leviathan/deimos can destroy a Sathanas if deployed/maneouvered correctly... the orion class destroyers were fitted well enough to demolish any kind of a "lucy" from their broad side...and then you can have a hecate jump in and turn on its 2 forward beam cannons making sure the lucy goes down...or a deimos for that matter...

20 years in the making for nothing...wow rear admiral koth bought it from the colossus, thats really something to spend 20 years on...instead they could have refitted everything with BFGreens and remove anything hostile on sight...hell, the hatshepsuts were probably enough to take a lucy head on...

Or...what about the GTD Hades? Why not make another one (or another 50, as it seemed the thing was built fairly quickly), it seems to be much MUCH more better than any colossus if fitted with BFGreens...

but no, the game needed a big big ship for the people who bought the game to gaze at...

but then again thats just my opinion...

 

BD, you do not just FIT BFGreens to any ship. To power something as powerful as a BFGreen, you will need a reactor the size of the Empire State Building, cannons the size of the Eiffel Tower, you do not just FIT these things on a Hecate.

[Cannikin]

Originally posted by Stunaep


BD, you do not just FIT BFGreens to any ship. To power something as powerful as a BFGreen, you will need a reactor the size of the Empire State Building, cannons the size of the Eiffel Tower, you do not just FIT these things on a Hecate.

Sure you can! I've fit a couple BFReds on an Amazon drone before. Boy did Alpha 1 get a surprise during TSM-103c...

[BlackDove]

Originally posted by Stunaep


BD, you do not just FIT BFGreens to any ship. To power something as powerful as a BFGreen, you will need a reactor the size of the Empire State Building, cannons the size of the Eiffel Tower, you do not just FIT these things on a Hecate.

I'm sure 10-15 years of research and money and resources (like they gave to the Colossus project) would be enough to figure out how to mount stuff like that on smaller vessels...

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor


Actually, it's probable that the "NTF" spies aboard the Colossus were undercover SOC agents. Remember, there were quite a few missions where the SOC intentionally let the Iceni escape to later learn more about ETAK and capture Bosch. It's highly unlikely that NTF spies could have gotten aboard the Colossus and disarmed its weapons--SOC agents, desperately wanting to stop Bosch and the Iceni being destroyed, disarmed the Colossus. Then they posed as NTF spies to be arrested, and probably quietly released later once the right people had been contacted.

I actually only thought that the Admiral/Captain of the Colossus was faking it and that nobody even touched those reactors...the things released later was just to back up a cover story that never took place, because even before, Command had the knowledge of letting the Iceni through.

But maybe there were SOC agents on board, definatly a valid-er claim.

[karajorma]

I think the theory that SOC let Bosch is more likely correct than wrong. How on earth did the Iceni get into Gamma Draconis in the first place?
 In the mission where you guard the Capella-GD node you are told that the iceni has already run our blockade. How? Most likely they let him through.

[CP5670]

That idea certainly makes sense to me, as the GTVA would need to let Bosch go without arousing the suspicion of the common people, and this was a good way to do it. It has been a long time since I have heard a novel theory on FS2.

[Su-tehp]

Back on topic.

I wanted to ask this earlier: Is there a FS2 DVD and does it have hi-res textures on it. If so, can anyone upload those textures here so we can download them?

[<<ERROR>>]

The real use of the nebula is to make the ships look bigger. The FS2 ships definitely look smaller than the same ships in FS1, so when you are flying alongside an Orion or Hecate, or approaching it, in 'empty space', it seems tiny. However, in the nebula, when you have to guard the Aquitaine against the ceaseless wings of Shivan bombers, it seems huge, as it looks like you are flying over vast amounts of ship to get to the other side to protect a critical beam cannon. or whack the next wave of bombers.
Also the idea that Bosch is allowed to escape has already been put forward, in the game. When you are told to chase the Iceni, and it is about 20km ahead of you, a wingman complains that "Command let Bosch escape! There's no other explanation."

[Star Dragon]

How can I backup my FS2 disks before they get scratched beyond use? Is it as simple as just burning a copy? Most games will not read a simple burned disk instead keeps asking for the original.

     As for the SOC... There is no such thing... All of you have been given orders to go to room 101 immediately for debriefing (ie red flashy thing). This conversation and all other before this DID NOT HAPPEN.

     I must admit you guys have really started giving me ideas for future storylines... Keep up the good debates!

     I like a mix of both being a countless cog (one of thousands) and also being the star of the hour (Alpha1 we need YOU to do this cuase only you can)...blah

     Now someone thrashed the fun about the enemy fearing you personally and targeting you... Ummm Hello MAX STERLING?

     In my mission Fare Well Big Brother not only do I kill Roy Fokker BUT the Zentreadi Ace Miriya Perina orders the others to stand down against "The Blue Micronian Devil" so she can get the honor of killing the enemy ace for herself. This has happened in rea life too (von richtoffen SP?) lol and Chiggy Von Richtoffen (SP?)

     This should be done on moderation and good mission design but I see nothing wrong with it as long as it adds to the story and make it fun.

     For example I plan on making Alpha1 the star of my mod only because the technology is so scarce (expensive) that only so many can be made to combat the new threat... But of course fleet involvement will be there also. Never forget your wingmen, take care of them and they take care of you!

Oh and one more thing: "It's ok to be scared..."
(Col TC Mcqueen)

[karajorma]

Originally posted by <<ERROR>>
The real use of the nebula is to make the ships look bigger. The FS2 ships definitely look smaller than the same ships in FS1, so when you are flying alongside an Orion or Hecate, or approaching it, in 'empty space', it seems tiny. However, in the nebula, when you have to guard the Aquitaine against the ceaseless wings of Shivan bombers, it seems huge, as it looks like you are flying over vast amounts of ship to get to the other side to protect a critical beam cannon. or whack the next wave of bombers.
Also the idea that Bosch is allowed to escape has already been put forward, in the game. When you are told to chase the Iceni, and it is about 20km ahead of you, a wingman complains that "Command let Bosch escape! There's no other explanation."

Since I`ve only ever played FS2 in 1024x768 I`m not certain if that effect is just due to playing in a higher resolution (and thus seeing more of the ship at a time)

As for Bosch being let go no one disputes that command let him go in Deneb. Everyone agrees with that, but that the whole thing with the colossus was also a set up is new.