Author Topic: capella supernova  (Read 13193 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Pretty much spot on Kara :D
this is about as far as I go on supernova, there is a few things about gravity in itself that need to be noted, and the newest UTF needs to be applied to ALL Supernova theorum's, so don't bet on them not changing soon :D
I'm about 90% sure it works that way (popular science) ;p
I can't really tell you anymore, that's pretty much the standard scientific explanation.
Your theory about dropping pressure is a good one.
The theory about compressing is a good one.
Either would have exactly the same affect, just that the latter would be more beneficial to anything the shivan's would do it for (resource harvest/gravity catapult/mass destruction)
I like your theory though hehe
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 
Quote
Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Bzzt.  Go directly to jail.  Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

http://astron.berkeley.edu/~bmendez/html/time.html

See the part about traversable wormholes specifically--almost entirely like FS subspace.  There is, however, the small problem of temporal shift...  but as long as the nodes don't move much relative to each other and aren't in widely different gravitational fields, the temporal effects will be minimal.  All we have to do is find a way to produce matter with negative energy (a tall order, that).


Didn't see that post.

Can I just point out...

The Beginning of Time the title <<<< is such a bad way to name things. :p

I didn't need to read much to tell you UTF completely denies the possibility of that kind of travel, unless the influenced particle, or the particle which is stimulating the 'jump' was bosian in nature...

I do wanna draw your attention to this though...
In the biography.
Thorne, Kip S. and Morris, Michael S.. Wormholes in spacetime and their use for interstellar travel: A tool for teaching general relativity. Am. J. Phys. 56(6), May 1988.
Incredibly out of date now, mainly (Again) due to recent advances in UTF (And by recent, I mean pretty much this year :p)

Macvey, John W.. Time Travel, A Guide to Journeys in the Fourth Dimension. Scarborough House/Publishers, 1990.

outta date, mainly because it was classed as unpopular science, dismissed by the top dogs and stomped on...
Pity though.....I love Time Travel when it's looked at as it should be, 4th dimensionally.
According to that book though, you can walk into the past the same way you would walk through a door, it wasn't exactly well founded science... Good read though, I do recommend it if you like sci-fi, it's not *that* full of physics/math, more philosophy.

Hawking, Stephen. A Brief History of Time, From the Big Bang to Black Holes. Bantam, 1988
dude, this was in the news, probably one of the best books about time ever, seriously a read I would put for any astronomer/physics nut :D

The rest of the novels are actually okay, they haven't been affected too much by UTF, considering UTF itself didn't deal with time.
I'm adding that Physical obsticals book to my fairly long list of lit i need to read...it looks interesting... don't know who Deser S is though...

If you wish to know anything about possible subspace (which would have to be classed as a dimension or subdimension for it to be able to interact with reality.... that's doubtful.... the main way 'subspace' science works, is slipping into a form of compressed space, OR and the currently more popular theory, a continuum where FTL is actually possible without the constraints of time acting upon it...) theories, you'd HAVE to read through most of the literature on Quantum Physics, and you'd HAVE to read a lot of the post'98 Unified Field Theory...

Actually more I think about it, they're almost definately talking about Bosian... except the terms are all wrong....same....err....ish....science though.
You need to read some UTF, you'll really enjoy it, err I think :D

The problem with saying 'subspace can directly influence real space' you throw ALL The rules of physics out the window (eg; relativity, subspace only allows you to travel faster then the speed of light /PROVIDING You can get there/ because it CANNOT influence the real universe which it resides under).
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 
one question:
WTF is UTM????
btw:
this campaign idea also uses the theme, it`s nevr been finished tough...
http://faculty.concord.edu/manzione/fs3.htm
just another newbie without any modding, FREDding or real programming experience

you haven't learned masochism until you've tried to read a Microsoft help file.  -- Goober5000
I've got 2 drug-addict syblings and one alcoholic whore. And I'm a ****ing sociopath --an0n
You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm

 
:wtf: :eek:
....Unified Field Theory...?
...You know....The Greatest Physics Project of All Time, the one that's on the quest to find a 'general set of rules to explain the universe, how it behaves, and how it got from where it 'started' to where it is now, and where it's going'.
Anything outside of the finalised UTF, it fiction, or beyond human comprehension (therefore fiction if someone's talking about it...heh).
UTF is responcible for the knowledge of the atom, it's also responcible for knowing there's stuff in the atom, it's also responcible for knowing there's stuff inside the stuff that's in an atom, and it's mainly responcible for the ongoing search for 'bosian particles' <-- If Bosian's could ever be controlled, and/or programmed, they would Freely be able to transverse through time and space, almost instantaneously, no matter what point you are trying to reach in the universe or in time.
UTF is also one of the few science areas that has a correct model for the 'big bang' (...what a tradgic name, considering, it was never a bang, it was never a beginning, time never started, it was always here, the universe never exploded, it was always being driven by a form of anti-gravity which is projected to be being produced in a 5-to-11th's dimensional plane that continues to drive universal expansion to this day.
It actually has proof, that no one could have created the universe, because the universe was always here, if you were to claim to have created the universe, you could never exist, nor never have existed because you did not have a time frame in which to exist...
Kinda pisses religious people off when you start bringing in UTF Quotes...

I do like to note one thing though.
The universe is perfect.
100% perfect, there is a complete balance in every single thing.
That is just about the only evidence I could come up with for there being a supreme being.


That campaign didn't use the theme that the shivan's lived in a different universe/dimension, just that they lived a very far way away.
That's another (actually more plausible) theory about the supernova.
I just think it's a little more...boring? and pointless, why would you need to blow it if you could make your way home the normal way? :p
« Last Edit: November 25, 2002, 01:50:59 pm by 456 »
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 
sorry about the stupid post, i'm tired,working on school work, and wondering wy i'm still awake. :confused: :nervous:
so it`s the UTF who explains about quarks, *takes mental note*

anyway, the campaign feateures problems because of the cappella supernova in the form of damaged ecoystems and stuff. (the original topic of this thread)

thanks for explaining
just another newbie without any modding, FREDding or real programming experience

you haven't learned masochism until you've tried to read a Microsoft help file.  -- Goober5000
I've got 2 drug-addict syblings and one alcoholic whore. And I'm a ****ing sociopath --an0n
You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
Quote
Originally posted by QuantumDelta
[BI do like to note one thing though.
The universe is perfect.
100% perfect, there is a complete balance in every single thing.
That is just about the only evidence I could come up with for there being a supreme being.
[/B]


I did once read an article which explained this. It's fairly obvious if you think about it. Universes where the constants aren`t correct don`t evolve life so no one ever spots them. The balances in this universe are seem perfect for life because life evolved in them and wonders about how perfect they are forgetting that if they hadn`t been no one would be here to spot the fact.

The most interesting part of the theory was that universes where the balance was correct might at a later point be able to seed new universes thereby setting up a kind of natural selection amongst universes :D

Anyway I read this over 10 years ago so it might have been debunked but the first part is pretty valid regardless.
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

 

Offline Sesquipedalian

  • Atankharz'ythi
  • 211
1) Shouldn't Unified Field Theory be shortened to UFT, not UTF?

2) There are many UFTs.  None actually work, so I wouldn't put too much stock in them yet.

3) This same material was in Scientific American's special issue on time two months ago.  Apparently it is still quite valid as far as most are concerned.
Sesqu... Sesqui... what?
Sesquipedalian, the best word in the English language.

The Scroll of Atankharzim | FS2 syntax highlighting

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
I'd be careful about putting all my faith in an unproven theories. At the moment they are all theories rather than fact and any particular one could very easily go the same way as  Lamarckism, phlogiston theory or the one about the universal ether.
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

 
...Proven 'facts' in the past have been simply misguided theories.

I don't have any clue why I kept typing UTF (...Some Squad? a Star Trek abbrieviation? ...meh)

I do know I'm tired, so if this doesn't make much sense forgive me.

There is only one project for UFT, whilst there are many theories, they are all chasing the same objective, the combination of Quantum Physics and (important...)....something that I can't even remember...crap, maybe I'll redo this after sleep, doubt it...heh, Sesqui can correct my errors, I'm pretty sure he's gotta good grip on it, just a bad site, and a bad reference (probably because my statement was bad in the first place, which it was looking at it from the science side of things)...

That issue of SA you read, it's quite a good read, it does lot  on how much they've broken down the particle side of it, it doesn't cover too much about the wave side, but well in enough for someone(s) like ourselves...

It defunct most of the books, I think the discoveries majored about 5months ago, anti-grav... you know, like subspace /could/ be one of the 5th-to-11th dimensions, this is one that they are aware of now....blah blah blah....
It also has a few good notes on time...

I'm not gonna say anymore, because I'm exaughsted, and probably making no sense to anyone....oh well...
can't explain to you why the books i mentioned are defunct, apart from the one that wasn't plausible science...sorry Sesqui...
There might be articles on them somewhere though...
Night folks :p
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 
Umm wasn't the Eldridge sent through subspace in Philly harbor back in WWII? Just the method was F*ed and when they came back the crew got phased into the hull.... I only consider this cause to me subspace is another dimension... And you gotta admit, the Eldridge went SOMEWHERE..... Hmmmmm Event Horizon anyone.... It went to HELL!!!!!! :devil:
Don't think of it as being outnumbered. Think of it as having a wide target selection !

ICQ#: 5256653
[email protected]

Projects: Gundam TC, Trek BTFF, REF, and Beyond Redemption
http://photo.starblvd.net/Star_Dragon

 

Offline karajorma

  • King Louie - Jungle VIP
  • Administrator
  • 214
    • Karajorma's Freespace FAQ
Re: SHort Question about UFT
Quote
Originally posted by Star Dragon
Umm wasn't the Eldridge sent through subspace in Philly harbor back in WWII? Just the method was F*ed and when they came back the crew got phased into the hull.... I only consider this cause to me subspace is another dimension... And you gotta admit, the Eldridge went SOMEWHERE..... Hmmmmm Event Horizon anyone.... It went to HELL!!!!!! :devil:


Yeah but the Roswell aliens shot kennedy because he planned to fake the moon landings which would then lead to a debunking of the face on mars and all that lead to a cover up of the Eldridge's disappearance into the bermuda triangle.

Or may both posts were made up :D
Karajorma's Freespace FAQ. It's almost like asking me yourself.

[ Diaspora ] - [ Seeds Of Rebellion ] - [ Mind Games ]

  
as anyone translated the article yet??? i'm kinda curious of the results.

and BTW, i apolagise for the shamless bump:nervous:
just another newbie without any modding, FREDding or real programming experience

you haven't learned masochism until you've tried to read a Microsoft help file.  -- Goober5000
I've got 2 drug-addict syblings and one alcoholic whore. And I'm a ****ing sociopath --an0n
You cannot defeat Windows through strength alone. Only patience, a lot of good luck, and a sledgehammer will do the job. --StratComm