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Offline Gortef

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some sketching questions
please go ahead and post everything you need to post here... it's your topic afterall and you're looking for help :)

you should practise with the shortening and 3d feeling a bit more. The right leg in the pic below has quite a good shortening but since it's not "bigger" than the left leg it looks like it's a... really short leg.



Take a look at this. Now the right leg looks a bit more normal since it's drawn a bit larger than the left leg.

Otherwise you have an interesting style with all the "unclean" oulines. Maybe you should stick with it, just draw faces to the characters :yes:
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Turnsky

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he's right, take your time and develop a style that you feel comfortable with:nod:

EDIT: Structure lines when you start a sketch out are a good idea... but it's up to you..
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Offline JC Denton

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I've found that using another picture (a screencap from your favorite anime, for example) as a reference, and trying to recreate that image on your own (but not tracing) is a great way to learn.

This, I did by taking a screenshot of a scene from Vandread and drawing it.  It's not 100% accurate, but very close:
Meia Gisborn

Now, I'm great at mimicking faces and stuff, but trying from scratch for me usually results in a horrid mess.  Although I can sometimes do a convincing job with hair, facial features remain a problem.

And as for drawing hands, try sketching your own hand in various poses.  Remember that a hand has a curve or arc to it, and keep that in mind as you draw it.
Me experimenting with hands...not quite human, though

Overall, the human figure ranks high among the hardest things to draw, beyond any shadow of a doubt.  I've only recently started trying to sketch them, but I've had plenty of experience with inanimate objects (starships, fighters, some mecha, etc..), and what I learned from that proves to be really useful.

As is said before, you just have to keep hammering away at this to improve.

Now, as for your rate of updating...I usually make small sketches in my spare time that aren't anything to brag about, but every now and again I just start drawing, without any structure lines or external references, and wind up with an impressive final result (or results, as the case may be :p )  Examples:
Side of an Eva
Closeup of said Eva's head

So, I'd say that when you think you've made some progress or a breakthrough, post a scan and we'll give more constructive criticism.

And as for all those links I've provided, no I'm not trying to brag, just showcasing what is possible, and you might do well to try what I suggested at the beginning of this post, about using screenshots and other pictures as references, and trying to replicate them.  Mimicry can be an effective learning technique. :)

And listen to Turnsky there. :nod: No two people have the same approach to doing an image.  It sounds like Turn would be one to do a rough layout with stick figures and structure lines to set up the scene, then put all the filler in; I'm one to already have the picture set in my mind and just dive right into the final product.  Others sometimes find a happy balance in between the extremes.  Just do what's easiest for you.

And  the pictures you're posting are giving me the X... hrmm...downfire.com isn't coming up...for FTP I use a free account from Portland Communications (www.portland.co.uk), might try them if you want a more permanent display.  Might have problems with running out of bandwidth and/or webspace if you post a lot of images, which also is a bit of incentive to have gaps in between updates...and clean out the ftp folder every once in a while. :)
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Offline Turnsky

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exactly :) structure helps me to get the proportions right
with the reference image thing....

This Image inspired me to start sketching..

and everyone has a different technique... i still say if you're uncomfortable with 5-digit hands try a 4-digit hand(machall style) hand they are quite easy to do and was the mainstay of some of my sketches until i started experimentation...

and as always variety is A1 supar

just go with what you feel comfortable with...
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Offline Unknown Target

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This is just personal opinion, but I never sketch other ppl's work. My reasoning is, if I spend so much time on this drawing, it might as well be original.
That doesn't rule out inspiration, though :D

  

Offline Turnsky

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i DID say inspire didn't I ?

and no, you don't want to become a human xerox machine:p

EDIT: oh, when drawing characters bear in mind  that the male rib-cages are generally wider than a female's, and that the elbow's of any character are usually at waist level....that should help with proportions somewhat, and if you find that confusing just ignore it:p
« Last Edit: May 10, 2003, 02:58:55 am by 86 »
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do not torment the sleep deprived artist, he may be vicious when cornered,
in case of emergency, administer caffeine to the artist,
he will become docile after that,
and less likely to stab you in the eye with a mechanical pencil
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