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Offline kasperl

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on: September 16, 2003, 11:57:13 am
i used Knoppix for 20 minutes, and i loved it.


now,i am going to install linux on my main HD, but i need advice on the following:

what distribution? it has to be free, read FAT, and be very reliable.
what kind of software? i have my eyes on the following: The Gimp. OpenOffice.

now, i need the following:
FTP, IRC, an MSN client, RAR/ZIP er, media player, CD Burner, a filesharer, a browser, and anything i might have not mentioned.

also, i am planning on a dual boot with my current 98SE system. can i keep this install or am i forced to also re-install windows?

i have a USB printer, and a LPT1 scanner, and a USB/serial joystick. how do i get these to work? the printer wouldn't work inKnoppix, but i didn't try anything besides clicking "print'"  in OpenOffice. i didn't try anything else.


i would be very happy with any help you guys could provide.
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Reply #1 on: September 16, 2003, 12:32:55 pm
depending on how you got the partitions set up, you might be able to keep your old win98 install.

most of those apps you mentioned has some sort of representation in most distributions of linux. the printer you'll probably have to mount before using it, but I think there are some distros that does it for you (I believe mandrake does, for instance). which is a nice beginners distribution too, for that matter.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #2 on: September 16, 2003, 01:16:36 pm
i've got the following HD setup:

primary master: 20GB
partition 1) C:\ 18 something GB of windows
partition 2) E:\ 1.2GB of very, very important files.
primary slave: 40GB of unpartitioned MP3, AVI, warez and stuff.


mandrake, i've heard of it, but nothing more. is it free?
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Reply #3 on: September 16, 2003, 01:31:11 pm
I think it is, yes. excluding the cost to download and burn to cd's. if not, it should be pretty cheap to buy it in stores.
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Reply #4 on: September 16, 2003, 06:40:24 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
what distribution? it has to be free, read FAT, and be very reliable.


Any distro that uses a relatively modern kernel will have Fat support, though you may have to enable it by recompiling the kernel. Gentoo and Debian (Debian is also very stable, due to its rigorous testing) have excellent software installation systems (portage and apt) compared to the very sucky rpm, they are dreams. However both aren't the easiest to install. Of the easy distros I recommend Redhat because it is "polished".


FTP - ftp, gftp are easy and simple (the latter is graphical)
IRC - xchat is what I use, also see *****x, ircii, kvirc
MSN client - Get a jabber client, they can intermingle with MSN/ICQ/Yahoo/AIM
RAR/ZIP - zip/unzip, along with unrar (available from the winrar website iirc)
media player -xmms works well (winamp clone), though there a multitude of simpler/more-complex players
CD Burner - gcombust, xcdroast, gtoaster
a filesharer - mldonkey does edonkey, overnet, fastrack and others
a browser - mozilla firebird, mozilla, galeon, epiphany, opera (stick lynx in just in case)

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also, i am planning on a dual boot with my current 98SE system. can i keep this install or am i forced to also re-install windows?


If you have enough space on the partition, defrag + resize.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #5 on: September 18, 2003, 10:42:53 am
what is so hard about installing Debian?

also, does the GUI or distro has any influentce on the results i get?
i am intending to switch to linux for some games too, are there any distros i should avoid?
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Reply #6 on: September 18, 2003, 12:39:59 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
what is so hard about installing Debian?

also, does the GUI or distro has any influentce on the results i get?
i am intending to switch to linux for some games too, are there any distros i should avoid?


it can be quite the trouble to select the right packages and so on, and configure X (I had to get help from a friend of mine to set it). It's not for the über-new beginner, at least. but apt owns all.
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Reply #7 on: September 18, 2003, 10:11:37 pm
If you're going to do Linux, do Debian, no doubt about it. See if you have a local LUG (Linux User's Group) nearby too. Debian might be decent (For Linux anyway) once it's running, but its got an installer that is positively actively User Hostile.

Of course, if you're thinking of doing a Unix operating system, why not consider something sane, clean, and with fewer security holes than Linux? Something with a kernel that stays stable for longer than a week? I'd suggest something like FreeBSD or OpenBSD (depending on how security concious you are). If you were really crazy and really liked Debian's package management that much, you could actually run Debian/FreeBSD (not a bad idea really. Great OS and great package management. Can't beat it. :D)
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #8 on: September 20, 2003, 04:03:48 am
do FreeBSD or OpenBSD ruin windows or linux apps?

i want linux because i am starting to hate windows, and most software is also availale fpr linux, including the 2 games i play most of the time, AA and FS2.
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Reply #9 on: September 20, 2003, 08:23:13 am
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Originally posted by kasperl
do FreeBSD or OpenBSD ruin windows or linux apps?

i want linux because i am starting to hate windows, and most software is also availale fpr linux, including the 2 games i play most of the time, AA and FS2.


Yes, FreeBSD will run Linux apps if you load the Linux compatibility layer--but this is the unix world. You can generally just compile the software for your platform and be done with it instead of running in a compatibility layer.

As for Windows apps, you'll have to poke around with Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator), a Windows compatibilty interface no matter with platform you choose.
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