[Setekh]

Originally posted by Johnmike
I eat newbies.  

You are a newbie.

[Carl]

cannibal.

[Bobboau]

looks like someone is useing the SCPs tiled and translated welcome beam.

were are all these newbs comeing from?

[Carl]

i don't know. it's weird. the game isn't even for sale anymore.

[Setekh]

And FP hasn't even replied again to our offer.

[Kazan]

(pssst... underdogs)

[Black Wolf]

Grab the GMax tutorials fro the GMax website. They're awesome, put out I believe by the company themselves, and they tell you pretty much all you nedd to know to design good ships. Keep in mind though, the plane tutorial (and possibly others as well) leans heavily on intersecting polys to get the right look - this is fine for a render model, but FS2 doesn't like it.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Kazan
(pssst... underdogs)

But why all of a sudden? Underdogs has had FS2 up for ages. Why are we suddenly seeing an influx now?

Someone must have pimped FS2 on a major site somewhere. We ought to find out where so that if we ever do a full release on Gamespy we can make sure it's pimped there.

[Nifelheim]

Originally posted by Galemp
I use Max for everything. Just model all your submodels and everything, name them appropriately, then export them as a #DS file and open that in Truespace to set up the hierarchy. Make sure all your filenames are in 8.3 format.

Some problems I've run into: make sure you reset all gizmos before you export, or else they'll end up in the wrong places in TS. And avoid mirroring, wherever possible; you'll need to re-mirror them in TS otherwise.

Hmm, will I need to re-mirror the objects if I wield the vertexs before exporting to TS?

[Nifelheim]

No, actually not underdogs. I had the game for several years, now, and a friend of mine bought me a controller, so I was eager to try it with something and rememberd about FS2. Being my favourite game (actually this is the only game've beaten twice), I playd it and remebered there were a lot of custom campaigns I searched & surfed, and ended up here.

@Black Wolf - I've used the Gmax tutorials, but my problem was getting the right format to export to TS, not actual modeling Thanks, anyway!

[Carl]

hmmm that's an intersting idea. shouldn't it be okay as long as it's converted into an editable mesh?

[Galemp]

You'd think so, but it doesn't always work. It has to do with the pivot transform, I think. If you go down to the subobject level, and mirror the geometry, instead of mirroring the entire thing, it works. The other foolproof method is to take your main mesh, 'attach' every other subobject to it, then use the Element selector and detach the bits one at a time. That sets everything to have the same scale, rotation, and position pivots so it will import flawlessly.

I'm currently piecing together the 3DS Max tutorial on the Wikki, so you can check back there.

[Nifelheim]

hmm, those pivots. That's what I don't like about exporting/importing - you don't know what the hell, you will get in the other program...
Expecting your tutorial!