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Offline an0n

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Now you're just spouting bollocks. Come back and talk about this stuff when you're served in the army
You come back when you've been shot and killed, then maybe we'l have a deal.
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Well he was meant to have both, wasn't he?
No. He was expecting to have both. But he should've been prepared to go in using only his training.

Even a ****ing boy-scout knows that.
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Navy interview's next week mate. I'll try and get shot ASAP, tho :)

And hey, when I'm up there trying to shoot down the bomber about to drop the bomb on a British city, I'll think of you and how good I'll feel about saving your arse
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No. He was expecting to have both. But he should've been prepared to go in using only his training.

He was told he'd have both. He was promised he'd have both. This is the point - the government broke that promies and betrayed its soldiers

 

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You realise of course that all the Navy do is camp out in the Med and sun-bathe?
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See what I mean about talking bollocks? an0n, people here only tolerate your attitude because usually make intelligent and witty arguments. Right now you're going down the ZB and Stryke path

 

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............My 'chum' has been in the navy for the past......I think it's 3 years.

The most difficult thing she's done is have drunken sex with her CO.
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She never been deployed to a warzone then? What does she actualy do in the Navy?

 

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I think she said something about 'support capacity' for Iraq. And I forget her official rank.

Back in.......musta been about May, she said they'd just spent a few weeks "out in the middle of the gulf doing ****-all".

Obviously I don't talk to her much, but last I heard her day consisted of occasional weapons training, a drill every so often and many hours spent wandering around the ship pretending to be doing something so important she couldn't stop to tell anyone what exactly it was that she was doing.
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No. He was expecting to have both. But he should've been prepared to go in using only his training.


He did go in using only his training.  but frankly, you can't blame him from being pissed off at being ordered to give up the piece of equipment that, it turned out, would have saved his life.

And on the dealing with mob thing, how many riot shields do you think were in the gulf?  I mean, now you're expecting them to have the right equipment to that sort of thing? Not only that, your 'solution' requires the sort of overwheming force that you say the army shouldn't need to operate.

Not to mention you still haven't answered whether you would have accepted having body armour taken off of you before entering a warzone.  You don't have to be a soldier to answer this, it's not a hard question.  In fact i'll rephrase it; to make it nice and clear an umambiguous.

"If you had to go into a warzone and were equipped with protective equipment, would you accept being forced to give it up?"

All i'm asking is for you to simply place yourself in a situation thousands of soldiers, as well as numerous civillians (TV crews, charity workers such as Red Cross, etc) found themselves in during the war.  you don't need to have any degree of miltary training or experience to understand the question, it;s a simple matter of risk assessment.

And unless you state that, in that position you would have no qualms over surrendering protective equipment - even with the knowledge that it may save your life - your argument holds no weight.

 

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What does she actualy do in the Navy?


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...have drunken sex with her CO


also my question to everyone was should they get BETTER equipment or training, no matter what piss poor army your in your going to get at least some of both, I was asking wich was more importans. wich IMHO on a per person, expence be damned, bassis, training is. the question I asked An0n, was is it more cost effective that way, the army doesn't have to reemberse famelies of dead solders, and they get there stuff back once he's dead. however, I don't know, that's sort of why I was asking, rather than telling
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If they've got better training then they're more likely to return with whatever equipment you've given them.
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