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Would he be able to pull togeather a better international Force

Yes, financial aid to Iraqi rebuilding, and troops
4 (14.3%)
Yes, financial aid to Iraqi rebuilding, and limited troops (protect election inspectors)
4 (14.3%)
Yes, Financial aid to Iraqi rebuilding
6 (21.4%)
No
14 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: October 02, 2004, 02:00:23 pm

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Offline Singh

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I'd say that give a bit of financial aid (lets face it...money keeps this goddarn world ticking) and keep a few (note: few) troops in till all the election people are out.

But once Iraq is set up and running well; leave it alone.
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Pull the troops out and replace them with Oompa Loompas. Much more productive and benign.
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Offline Shrike

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I have to say, part #2 is a pretty big assumption there Kazan.  It is Senator 'Flip-Flop' Kerry you're talking about here, after all.  I'd have more respect for the man if he actually had a single concrete conviction...... hell, even a single concrete plan or idea for anything post election.  But from what I gather his plank is basically that things will just be better once he's elected.  Somehow.
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Offline Kazan

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Shrike: this thread isn't for partisan crap

the description of "flip-flop" is just crap

1st) he _HAS_ had one consistent position on Iraq, despite what out-of-context soundbytes may lead you to believe

2nd) The job of a politican is to make the best decision with the available information. If new information comse to light then they need to re-evaluate their position.   If they fail/refuse to do so they are a disgrace and a danger to their country

3rd) When analizing voting record one must take into account
   * Actual content of bill (not title)
   * Riders attached to bill
   * New Information come to their attention
   * Specific information about _that_ particular request (like when he voted to cut a bunch of military spending in the early 90's: at the request of then sectary of defense Cheney's request)



Buying into the flip-flop crap is just being inattentive and failling pray to soundbyte politics
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Offline Shrike

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You wanted non-american opinions.  You got mine.

Personally I think I'd be more worried about the fact that Kerry's a necro-robot sent from the future to destroy us all, but that's just me.
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Offline Ace

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Al Gore's the necro-robot. Kerry is just Gore's mindslave ;)
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Offline Sandwich

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Un-capitalized the word "he" in the poll question; initially I thought you were asking if God would be able to pull together a better international force. :p
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Offline Zarax

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Al Gore made only one error: trying to command the place before being elected...
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Quote
Originally posted by Sandwich
Un-capitalized the word "he" in the poll question; initially I thought you were asking if God would be able to pull together a better international force. :p


Why does that seem so ironic to me? :)
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Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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Before the war Kerry might have succeeded in getting a broader coalition together.

But now? No one is going to get a broader coalition. Iraq is a mess that no one not already there wants to touch with a 10-feet pole.
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