[Johnmike]

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[Ace Pace]

Okey, first on the X600 VS 6600GT:
1) the X600 is basicly a 9600XT in a PCI-E core, so unless your upgrading your mobo to a PCI-E one, its worthless.
Also, the 6600GT is ALSO PCI-E ONLY, neither are an option for a reguler upgrade because neither will have an AGP option.

2) the X600 is outdated in favour of the X700, which losses badly against the 6600GT no matter what test you run(see Ananadtech.com, Tomshardware.com,Xbitlabs.com)

3) For an upgrade, there is nothing more efficient then a 9800 unless your going for a 6800GT.

4) ATi won the last generation(FX and 9xxx), it has allready lost badly against the 6xxx line of cards that nVidia put out, to say nothing of future preformance.

5) The 9600XT is overpriced, and underpowered, for its price, you can get a 9800Pro today.

6) Unless your getting one of the new cards (6xxx or Xxxx) there is no need for 256MB of memory on your card, becuase you don't have the power to run in resolutions that use that texture size.

[ChronoReverse]

I have to disagree with the ssecond half of point 4.

ATi won the last round.  This is clear.

This round is still rather split.

[Ace Pace]

Originally posted by ChronoReverse
I have to disagree with the ssecond half of point 4.

ATi won the last round.  This is clear.

This round is still rather split.

It's unclear in the current games, but all games utilizing shadows extensivly (Far Cry, UT, D3,HL2) show anything from a moderate to nice win for nVidia, particulary in the mid range, where the X700 can't even hold ATi's traditional lead in AA and AF, but losses everywhere except UT.

[Blitzerland]

ATI runs fine with me. Specular mapping with FSO even works with the latest drivers (only for me though, seemingly).

ATI is superior (not by much, however) to Nvidia.

[Hippo]

I have a 9700... Seems to be about the same as both... slightly faster then the 9600, but slightly slower then the 9800...

[Blitzerland]

Originally posted by Hippo
I have a 9700... Seems to be about the same as both... slightly faster then the 9600, but slightly slower then the 9800...

The middleground.

[Hippo]

indeed

[Kosh]

Can I have it?

[Hippo]

you could have my old computers old one... Nvidia Riva... NON TNT compatable

[Blitzerland]

Nvidia Riva...not TNT compatible...

Reminds me of my old  3DFx 4MB 3D-card I had when I was, like, 8-10 or so.

It made everything look soooo nice...at the time.

"What's a 3D Aceleflahterrer, Daddy?"

[Liberator]

You're really telling you're age blitz, you must be what 16?

I didn't get my first 3d accelerator till I was 19, it was a 3dfx Voodoo 3 2000 with 16 megabytes of VRAM in a PCI slot.

[Kosh]

Was that top of the line back then?

[ChronoReverse]

If the old one was a Voodoo or Voodoo2 then yes.

The V3 unfortunately, was never really top of the line since the TNT2 mostly out-classed it.

[Liberator]

Actually I upgraded from a built in Trident POS that stole 8mb of RAM from the system memory.  It wasn't long after that that my monitor faded to black and I could barely see anything with the gamma turned all the way up and lights off.