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Offline vyper

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From STEAM license agreement :-
Isn't the standard free download on XSI's website better then?
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Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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From STEAM license agreement :-
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Originally posted by demon442
Well, seems that Valve's gone Bush on us.  It's a sad day when this sort of thing happens.  Especially after the gaming community practically handed those hackers over to the authorities.

The way I see it, this could lead in two directions.  If STEAM succeeds and people buy into that load of bull, every major game producing/developing firm will create a similar system claiming security purposes.  On the other hand, if STEAM fails, we'll be short one of the most influential companies of our time.  Welcome to the legal age everbody, enjoy your stay, but you'd better have a good lawyer if you do.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4041289.stm


even if it's succesful companies will have to be careful. How many steam-like-accounts do you think people are willing to put up with before they say 'shove it!'? Not all that many imho.
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Offline TrashMan

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From STEAM license agreement :-
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Originally posted by kasperl
I'm serious, I hope they get sued. This is ridicioulous. I'm not buying HL2 as long as Steam is needed for singleplayer.


Downlaod the HL2 crack and get rid of steam.
I did!
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Offline Liberator

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From STEAM license agreement :-
*zot*
That was the sound of Trashman's other Valve games being shut off.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline vyper

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From STEAM license agreement :-
I don't think they're cyber stalking users.
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Offline kode

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From STEAM license agreement :-
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Originally posted by vyper
I don't think they're cyber stalking users.


no, they probably don't. they are just too incompetent for achieving such a task.
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From STEAM license agreement :-
Wow, this is the most i've been quoted since...ever.

Chances are, in the UK, steam will fail and Valve will lose a huge market in that country.  Good for you and your logical, well thought out, and most of all working laws.  But here in the US, I have a feeling that most gamers woun't care enough about privacy and good software to make an independant effort to rid themselves of steam.  Hopefully the word about steam will spread a little more quickly than Valve's excuses.

In the end, it all comes down to how much faith you put in the american people, and im not holding my breath on this one.
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Offline WMCoolmon

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From STEAM license agreement :-
Another Steam/Half-life horror story.

So, I get the game. I carefully peel off the tape holding the package closed so as to not ruin the package. Inside, I find five CDs, a $20 ATI coupon, and a miniature HL2 'Quick Reference' guide.

Okay, I think, read the instructions on the card and follow them in installing HL2.

First problem - I selected D:\Steam for the steam installation dir, and suddenly Half-life and CS:S are installing themselves to the same spot. Oh, they're just a part of Steam now...well, then, I guess that makes a little sense.

Finally, four CDs later, Half-Life 2 is installed. Or so I think. First I have to set up a Steam account. But Steam also needs to update itself. Finally, Steam starts and I get an offer to buy HL2. WTH? I just want to play the game, I already bought it. Oh, I have to register it. Enter in the key, register it, and it starts getting HL:Deathmatch. After waiting for awhile, I decide it's really not worth the wait and cancel (Apparently I have to decrypt the update...?).

After poking around, trying to find how to play the damn game, I finally close the steam window, flip open the start menu, and fire it up the old-fashioned way. Oops! Turns out I still have to wait 15-30 minutes for the game to decrypt.

Great, the game's finally decrypted...why that was even necessary, I don't know, since I have to connect to steam to play anyway. Wait, what the hell is this? I still don't have an up-to-date version? All right, wait another five minutes for the game to update.

Finally, it's done. It starts "Preparing to start Half-life 2". No, HL2 doesn't work with the 5th CD in the drive. I put in the first one and hit the "Retry" button on the dialog.

And wait.

After a few minutes, and checking the Task manager for CPU usage, I realize Half-life 2 really isn't going to start. So, I check the readme which was on the CD (But not mentioned at all on the 'Quick Reference Card') and see Half-Life 2 doesn't work, except on Administrator accounts.

So I log on as Administrator. It still doesn't start.

So I reinstall the damned thing, made all the more difficult by the fact I have to uninstall it as the user I uninstalled it on AND it didn't show up in the Add/Remove programs list; I even had to manually check the Steam directory to find the uninstall program for it.

With a download speed 1/10 of what it was before, I repeat the entire procedure. Fortunately, I just had to log in and had found the 'play games' window for Steam, so I was able to start HL2 right after Steam had loaded.

Guess what? It didn't work. Same problem as before.

Now I'm sitting on a HL forum, waiting for someone to respond to the thread of someone who had the same problem as me and spent an hour working with tech support to try and resolve the problem (and failed). The feeling from the members is that it is somehow offensive to dare have problems with Half-Life 2, or to criticize steam if a problem occurs that would be solved if the damned thing weren't necessary to run Half-Life 2.

Personally? My HL2 experience would be a lot better if they spent the money required to develop steam to give people some incentive to buy the game legally. Like, say, a $5 bill in the box or maybe a decent manual. Hell, getting rid of all this 'protection' bull**** would be incentive enough for me. I prefer to buy games legally to support the companies. Valve is rapidly killing my eagerness to support them, though. HL2 may be a great game, but right now it's worthless to me. Unless I want to use Steam to buy more copies.

It's too bad that Valve spent work getting the shop to buy the game working instead of getting the game itself working.
-C

 

Offline aldo_14

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From STEAM license agreement :-
It's probably because the release of DM last night managed to overload the servers....  yet a-bloody-gain; another fundamental problem of the Steam validation process.

EDIt; oh, and notice that when you connect to Steam you have absolutely no way to cancel the logging in process - there's even a grayed ot 'cancel' button to apparently taunt you.

And why the hell - AFAIK, there's no info I can find but I doubt you can - can't you be allowed to download a duplicate copy of HL2 as a backup if you've got the retail copy?  i mean seeing as we've proved we already own it and everything?  And have to go through an even more annoying process of keeping cd-in-drive than digital only owners?
« Last Edit: December 01, 2004, 04:12:07 am by 181 »

 

Offline Styxx

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From STEAM license agreement :-
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Another Steam/Half-life horror story...


So take the damn thing back to the store, get your money back, and go play GTA:San Andreas. ;)
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Offline Flipside

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From STEAM license agreement :-
It's one of the few times that I have actually been glad that a program, without asking my consent, has inserted a shortcut to itself into my boot-up menu. Because that means that whenever Steam tries to start, it can;t find a connection, and whinges and I can quit it there and then :/

  

Offline WMCoolmon

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From STEAM license agreement :-
Well, after a reboot it's started working...fortunale for Valve...and it looks pretty darn good. (Plays good, too.)
-C