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The Ancients "Discovered" subspace, depicting, that like ourselves, it was something we stumbled across that already existed.

Either Artificial, or Natural.

Either is easy to rationalise.
I'm kicking myself for not thinking of what the term for the focal point (which tends to be just outside the Oort cloud of a solar system), that serves as a form of flux focus between systems.

FYI: Char.
Before talking about stuff outside of the FS2 universe...
Please play the FS1 Game.
The Shivan's were not created by the ancients, as Carl states it's disproven by the videoclips in the game.
The shivan's were more advanced, about as advanced as they are in FS1 actually.
And we use Ancient knowledge (tracking into subspace, which oddly enough does actually corrolate to some of the theory work from the first reply) to follow the lucifer to earth.
Why they would need to 'track' the lucifer to 'follow' her through a 'jump node' that 'links' as in 'tubularly' to another 'jump node' to 'earth' from 'delta serpentis' (Forgive me if that's wrong I ain't played it in ages), I'll never know.
Unless it really is nth dimensional.
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline FireCrack

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta

Why they would need to 'track' the lucifer to 'follow' her through a 'jump node' that 'links' as in 'tubularly' to another 'jump node' to 'earth' from 'delta serpentis' (Forgive me if that's wrong I ain't played it in ages), I'll never know.
Unless it really is nth dimensional.



ummm, overusse of ''
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 
Just quoting out the Science fiction part ;)
"Neutrality means that you don't really care, cuz the struggle goes on even when you're not there: Blind and unaware."

"We still believe in all the things that we stood by before,
and after everything we've seen here maybe even more.
I know we're not the only ones, and we were not the first,
and unapologetically we'll stand behind each word."

 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Originally posted by Charismatic
From what i hear, the A. were bigger, far bigger then the S.
The A. seems to be highly advanced at the time, and the S., from way before FS1, you can imagine, no shields, bad fighters just like us. So if thats all true, how the Hell did the A. loose to the S.? Were the S. too numerous?

Um... the Shivans had shields when the wiped out the Ancients.  In one of the cutscenes, the voiceover says "in subspace they cannot use their shields".  Obviously that means that the Shivans had shields then.
The Trivial Psychic Strikes Again!

 

Offline FireCrack

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta
Just quoting out the Science fiction part ;)



track, follow, earth, and delta serpentis are not science fiction words
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta
The Ancients "Discovered" subspace, depicting, that like ourselves, it was something we stumbled across that already existed.


Ah, but it never says they discovered subspace nodes. :D
-C

  

Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by QuantumDelta

Why they would need to 'track' the lucifer to 'follow' her through a 'jump node' that 'links' as in 'tubularly' to another 'jump node' to 'earth' from 'delta serpentis' (Forgive me if that's wrong I ain't played it in ages), I'll never know.
Unless it really is nth dimensional.


? It's the only way to overcome the shields.

Worth noting that there were multiple Lucifers or shielded Shivan vessels during the Ancients war;

[q]Act 3 Misc 2A
The records have been deciphered and analyzed.  The language used by these “ancients” bears several similarities to the Vasudan language, lending credence to some of the Vasudan legends about their ancestry.  From what little information there is in the records, it’s learned that the Ancient’s civilization was one very similar to the Terrans and Vasudans, and that they were likewise annihilated by a mysterious space-faring race that showed no mercy or effort to communicate.  In the last months of their species’ existence, they were perfecting a device to allow ships to be tracked in subspace.  The Ancient’s planned on using this to attack the Shivans’ key ships in subspace while their shields were down.  Unfortunately, the Shivans destroyed their fleets before they could exploit this device.  Furthermore, the Ancients speculate that subspace nodes were quite fragile, and that combat during a jump would surely cause the collapse of the surrounding nodes.

Terrans begin constructing the tracking device immediately. They need to recover certain bits of technology from the Shivans to reconstruct the tracking device.  The renegade Vasudans also have a piece of needed technology so there is also an offensive against them, requiring a showdown between the renegade and loyal Vasudans.

[missions involve the player’s forces trying to track down the SD fleet.  It’s found, and the newly made tracking devices are readied for use.  Unfortunately, the SD fleet is just one jump away from the Terran’s home systems.  A large attack group of Terran ships is quickly assembled, and the SD attack begins as it makes the last jump to Earth.]
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